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as in yukariC-shiggy-yukari or yukari-yukariC-shiggy?
first
then the same thing happens, no?
i set oshig card as starting skill
I mean it's a very quick restart so it never bothered me enough to care
so I can't believe this just happened
right at the end
every restart increases my pissed-off meter
thats way too many buffs on syukari
also lmao got rekt by mika range
nvm that was on you repoing her away

ur better off not using mika at all
u do know mika raw doesnt do shit dmg
like you can see i fired mika as well on wave 2 and 3
just not optimally
i cant exactly control where they go
yea no why are you still buffing syukari during first groggy
mika is supposed to be ur dps man
yea that was for cycling
need to get yukari out of the way
the last ex fired was mika
she doesnt need buff to kill these
just syukari once immediately fire mika here
after 2nd mika ex then syukari
wait, its syukari -> Mika -> syukari -> Mika?
you had worse remaining hp than my f104
you use rio on mika
syukari mika buff buff mika syukari mika
the drones dont share HP with Tiph do they
buff mika ofc
no
but no the drones or labourers here dont act like greg
or perorominions
they do share some hp i think but if theyre defeated they dont transfer the extra dmg
its very funi that syukari dealt more than mika

because of my preconceptions about Tiph
which needs an update
i assume that means you'd buff Mika to fire at the waves pre groggy as well
in addition to groggy
no u fire mika right after this syukari ex
and i cant tell if its bluestacks issue but ur final wave was dogshit no offens

50mil is easy cleanup ue50 mika lvl 90 boss
all mika ex should be perfectly one after another
either pause or hold an ex skill
exampl
you know what?
I should have a little more humility
I didn't know Tiph as well as I thought I did
I did it after watching hw, but i might have misremembered somethings and shit just didnt stick right in my head
prolly missed mechanics here and there but f99 is whatever
And I must have done it wrongly too on my own account on steam, but because I had a UE30 Seia, I inadvertently got the clear in the end because I was throwing out more Mika than here
On my own account, i did the same thing as I did 10 minutes ago before you gave me a rectification
but Seia let me threw enough Mika in the end that I just got the clear. And I didn't take note of that, only that she did more damage than S.Yukari in the end
And the way that I was using S.Yukari is evidently because I thought she was meant to be the main DPS. Clearly not, despite her importance
now I keep this in mind for the future
I really thought i needed to tell my boss that he needed that UE30 Seia too
i mean the way u were buffing syukari like mika wasnt literally right there
was kinda funi
I thought Mika came in at the end
she deals far more than syukari anytime
Yea that but idk, i think it was my preconception that the drones shared hp pool with tiph
so i buffed her a lot more than i did Mika
but the moment you told me about Mika, I just did a 180 degree and the 2 times i use her pre rage / room colour change, I dumped buffed Mika on the cores
as opposed to buffed S.Yukari
But basically, I played wrong. Until rectified otherwise. Appreciate it
its the end
need 5 digits for eri in 12 hours
same for š¶
you going for pelolo lunatic or what
yea?
I went from 60M to 120M during this comms weekend
i probably should farmed comms ngl. but hard mode elephs are like precious gems to me
cant help but farm it
got UE60 Serina now though
Good luck, fellow witch enjoyer š¤


no
they must have enough hp to tank it
or itll break and chokmah will destroy your ballistas
how much dmg at f74
schaledb calculator doesnt have the damage so you'll have to calculate yourself
I think the interval between each tick of damage is 0.3s
hmm it's summoned for 20s and hits every 0.3s would be 66 hits in total, so 66 * 9.6% = 633.6% of chok's ATK as mystic damage
but also your cover isn't tanking the entire time, so probably closer to like 60 hits
So closer to 576%
theres only one ballista needed right
Elaborate
theres only one ballisata in the chokmah stage
but we just need one
You wonāt end up with just one
do i have to protecc all of em or just one of em
ok so i need 68.1k hp in theory
Thatās needlessly complicated
Protecting one is protecting all
ah
You donāt want a steel ball hitting the ballista
so i deploy two covers on one ballista
yea that
On f50 and up yes
@deft minnow still need syukari?
Its ended 12h ago, also i have found some one who has s.yukari
Why syukari? Is shasumi not strong enough in tiph?
Syukari just better
s.hasumi can do 106f so she's good too. just preference :V
hasumi has neutral mood and can miss laborer once in a while
usable, but she is not seen at the highest floors for a reason
the laborers only have 690 eva, how could she miss? :V
Just happens sometimes š
But its relatively rare.
there is no way for her to miss
Its crit/stab whatever. They just survive sometimes
Is there a way to do purple f100 without nozomi?
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Cherino 
she's just a cost charger. with her 100 acc she ain't hitting crap
at least more durable than ui
curious if it still will work with random red tank in that slot
no chance
finally plana woke up
hell yeah
is chokmah further back? it seems like it is compared to the last time it was here
wrong positions but i also dont have an SSaori borrow yet
i think wrong positions yeah?
there're absolutely noone in my friend list have stacked blue dealer for sale
done on lunch break
any f99 clears without bhoshino 
Floor 57 was such a struggle
Why use C.Shiroko for anything lower than F75?
hinata dps
The sky is blue
she's UE40 after all
might as well use her over Kuroko
And?
hag
hinata is the preferred burst dps for blue chok
woah
Kuroko has to dodge a missile
Idk why but I misread that as "hinata is the preferred bust dps for blue chok" 
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You just cancel double ballista with late groggy

wonder how I could fit reijo into this team
probably just replacing sseia and replace iwak with kisaki
I can't imagine it would be worse
although maybe the sseia duration and heals are actually preferred
Someone got a strong S. Saori for Chokmah Blue?
Who's the best students for chokmah right now?
S. Saori
Only s. Saori enough?
a well built can be your solo DOT up to F99
I'm struggling even at F74 lol
I can see why cause her sib skill
You using Shiroko Bike to keep Seia Swimsuit alive?
most likely
The comp also probably has 3 other students taking the double hit
Cos I think Seia Swimsuit dies to double hit even with Atk Down
blep
hey chat, does reijo's DOT need to be trigger by another char's dot? I run solo DOT reijo and the reactor gauge didn't budge
Reijo has no DoT at all
Reijo only buffs Poison and Chill dmg
reijo enhance existing dot
and yes, you need another student's Chill/Poison
doesn't proc herself
don't have ssaosao
you borrow her
I didn't check carefully yet but I think I got none on my borrow list
hold on I'mma ask in club chat
full of dolphin
You have, like, way less options on Blue
The other options are Azusa Swimsuit, Juri PT and Michiru
all the options are bad
All worse options than Saori Swimsuit
whereas yellow is uneru centred and can manage with cope stuff as long as uneru happy
Honestly, the only other usable one is Azusa Swimsuit
there're 1 ssaori 3444 T9T9T9 lv.80, which I think is overkill for floor55 but I need to try
you never know which amount of copium is in my vein, i use thasumi as main dealer up until f50
and she didn't even MMMM yet
F50 is very different from F74
you use reijo ex then use someone else dot and their dot get amplfied
does it only buff chill and poison dot or does it buff all type of dot?
only chill and poison
Only Chill and Poison
ok
so sadly no you cant use meru
yeah, burn is outta luck
That's why Meru does not work with Reijo
no she doesnt
I figure it'd be that but I ask just for sure
she apply a special status effect that amplfy dot effect that you later apply to boss
that's basically detail explaiantion of what he said-
its not
there're different?
nope
You have to apply Reijo before the DoT
he said "enhance existing dot"
The other way around doesn't work
I assume enhance are same meaning as buff.
which basically saying that she buff the dot that you already applied beforehand
"existing"
so reijo need to apply on the student, and that student dot harder or does she need to apply on the mob and the mob get fked by dot harder?
:psmh:
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Reijo applies Chill Interval Down and Poison Add. Dmg onto enemies
Then you apply the Chill/Poison debuff dmg
ah
And then that gets enhanced
That's an emote
ok
eep
wutdahel

Am i missing something?
I activate it? I thought it goes automatically
Tf i did not know that
My guy, maybe read the FRR guide first
Nice
Let's goo my first ever F74 clear
F74 clear, who'll have to be replaced for Bike?
more blue armor than yellow damn
Its still neutral atk
F74 for now... Out of djsaori to use
Oh btw it my 1st time reijo
How her ex order?
Ex her after saori?
reijo then ssaori
Noted
chokmah my bbg
how is ur reijo surviving
mine dies on F99
oh that F74
okay that's normal
Whatās her hairpin tier
T8
Your special students?
same as them but a healer instead of nagisa because i do not have idol mari
Koharu works
she's dies her ass out
How
neutral
? Sheās yellow armor so resist
blue chock
For fun
Ssaorilet feat sazusa
I mean, this is straight up the only other DoT option for Blue Chokmah
can you share your students
works for f74, probably needs bikeroko to keep nyk alive on f99
where kisaki
unless imari overheal does it

I'll swap out akari for kisaki
wait
just swap iwak
oh s.shirok for ballista activation
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But it's fine
also find a maxed s.saori to borrow

you dont need nyfuuk bc kuroko is cheap while ssaori dot doesnt crit anyway
use snag or smth
rotation isn't that tight tbh
even without any cost charge boost
I replaced iwak with ny.akari

do you have reijo
if so you can replace ibuki with her and have kotama take nyakari slot
only needs some in EX and sub, then pin for survival
is this the right channel to look for ffr borrows?
Homecook
I just random bullsh and done
My 1st F74 clear 
Gozzamn that UE60 S. Saori tho
ok, got it
@rare arch
Someone help
Also ny kayoko getting her ass wooped for some reason
One shot
Freely
I can't do nothing about it
are you timing bikeroko before missiles? also should typically tank one missile with cover
(maybe cover is supposed to tank 2 missiles?)
i do
wait placement plays a role here ?
cover tanks missiles, and the missiles will hit from front to back
so frontmost students/cover will tank two
9 missiles in total iirc
Yes, 9 total
but ny kayoko dies by one only
That means you did not apply Shiroko Bike Atk Down
Because yes, she is supposed to die to that
i did
It's not maxed then
i'm getting a clip rn
And/or your Kayoko NY gear sucks
tell me how
she should live just fine
for f99 one missile with broko debuff only does like 65% of her hp
The missile only does 60-70k dmg?
maybe my placements aren't okay
but still
she gets one hit
oh ye i forgot
kayoko is blue
my bad gang
this is a close call for me to build her
@quiet jewel I'm doing calcs, isn't Kotama Atk Down also mandatory for Kayoko NY to survive
no imari issues
oh maybe kotama or shiz atk down is needed
Ye you said the 65% HP thing
I can get it, but it needs a 2nd Atk Down
Otherwise she's dying
she survived
yea u probably need a 2nd def down if no imari overheal
or she might just live at like 1 hp if she's really well built
That needs UE specials and roll Chokmah stab
Ye pretty much every clear I scanned through GPD today is either a 2nd Atk Down or Mari Idol
If you end up failing because of losing Ako's buffs/heals, consider Shizuko instead of Kirino Swimsuit. Shizuko has the Atk Down you need + cover
ako?
You swapped out Ako
oh
So, who knows, you might lose because you lost Ako's buffs and heals
Might be crucial to your rotation idk
Might not be needed
can only do 74, not have boshi nor s.saori
better off borrowing a good ssaori unless you sazusa is really well built
you can just single cover
This was dumb
What floor is this?
24 lmao
You cannot solo without at least a healer
The bare minimum is Kuroko + healer
Azusa works no healer, saori should too
tsk
first time fighting blue chokmah (f99)
@sage fractal I'm sure you can do a f49 farmable clear even with sazusa
This is the best I could do, I need to sleep 
it's phase 2
when he does the big flame breath
The reactor glows red
Maybe?
i saw the team on youtube but i don't have idle pop mari
also it's a healer instead of ny akari
but i need damages
and longevity
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Why not try
Well that yram wkrks
Flooe 59 done. Not sure how much I could push
You can go further
Wait does your team get wiped by a neutral missile rain?
Can take a couple
Though Reijo will die without shield and I.Mari heal
Why is umika in there 
Should not even need Azusa Swimsuit, but I'm very close, I just need to finetune a few mistakes and I should get it
But ye, am cooking 
What's your Reijo gear?
Hm, so much cleaner F24 carry now that I'm not accidentally cancelling Basic
why are you using a bad borrow
try with ssaori, even a ue30 should work
sazoos option too but obv much weaker, if newbie is saving ssaori for f49. but u got 27 days or so to borrow so ye
Akane kinda necessary, you need her for that wee bit extra dmg
This one is insane, you need to fit 3 Kuroko basic into 1 groggy
How difficult
So as soon as Akane hits the tube you also Kuroko EX
If you have enough cost and time it right, should work
The 3rd Basic hits after Chok shrugs off the ropes, when the debuff still active
I think I could use a similar strategy
Is there someone i can copy to clear 106
TBH, just want to just use her. That is all
F74 insanely free lmaoooooo, 0 effort
Chokmah doesnāt get atk type then
Seia and Seia Swimsuit both take 2 missiles, they don't live without the shield
Does tyuuka make a difference there
It's the exact same problem I had with Seia on F74 Yellow Chok
This lineup means both Seias take 2 missiles
Maybe with enough stat transfer, I won't need it
But who cares, this is giga comfy
4 F74s cleared, 2 to go. The next one should be easy, which leaves the last, actually hard one
Which is?
I've been getting consecutive F74 clears, so you know which two are left
Blue set and purple tiphareth
alr time to slacc
F49 slaccer
any good f99 clear recommendations with rio or S Nagisa with borrow s saori?
how much investment do i need on saya
Honestly with
and Resist, Saya's DoT wouldn't matter that much. Although in my case, at least UE30 with good gear, 1MN7.
saya is only there to keep the dot debuff up. you can literally get away with 0 investment.
but honestly she's a pretty decent statstick if built
Although its better to max Saya's Subskill
OG or the casual saya?
I use og
OG
Is there f99 guide with Rio or S Nagisa
you can freehand 99f if your students are decently built. borrow a maxed s.saori
just buff s.saori->splash->activate kuroko->buff kuroko
occasionally use b.hoshino to block chok's fireball
and remember to use biker roko's ex skill when chok's about to land its missile barrage
repeat
Also mind the wheel attack
If you see 2 wheels aiming af the ballistas, fire the groggy
oh yea, use biker roko's ex on the ballista controller when chok's about to drop the steel balls on the ballistae
hell, kuroko does so many crit hits, you don't even need to worry about survival, since kokonut procs her ns nonstop
oh and remember to fire s.saori then use kiki on her, this way kiki's buff can last a couple more ticks for the dot
How do you deal with his second wheel attack
Do you cancel it too?
the what? :V
Its either you:
- are in phase 2
- Fire the groggy
oh right, you cancel it with ballista too
but I hardly see it since chok almost always enter the last phase before firing it a 2nd time
^
In conclusion: if you do it right, you might want to fire off the 2nd groggy before turning to phase 2
Speaking of: Time to see if S. Kikyou can survive Set's cruelty
I guess I just wait for tmr to borrow the maxed out ssaori
how are you supposed to block the two balls going to the ballistas? i can only manage to block one but the other destroys both anyway
You use a second cover
2 covers
like a normal cover or someone with a cover status?
Normal covers
really?
That's why you need 2 covers, but a lot of us are just cheesing it by bringing only 1 cover
i thought only cover status works
Also B. Hoshino cover
Boshi and a cover student in the special slot
Like shizuko
Or 2 cover students
boshi?
Yuh
who's that?
Hoshino (Armored)
ohhh hoshino armed
What cover status were you thinking of
Students who are in cover?
Students canāt take cover due to proof of wisdom
Or students who can make covers themselves?
Only boshi makes cover for herself
I know, not optimal for Chokmah
Since D. Tree cover is red, designed for srkr
Shiro's balls in partocilar
hmm still not strong enough or maybe my skill issue
if you have ny.akari, use her instead of s.nagi
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ny.akari's buffs are quite good, I'd say she and ny.kayoko are the best blue buffers
yes? b.akane for example :V
No, that's Atk sub that only applies to Mystic students, like Tomoe Qipao
It's not Mystic Eff
what I wanted to say was, ny.kayoko and ny.akari are the best choices to buff blue atk, among most other buffers
Strange thing to say when it's a completely different type of buff, but ok
Also, it's less effective on students who self buff their Mystic Eff
How is that?
So Base Mystic Eff on Blue enemies is 200%
Saori Swimsuit has 49.4% Mystic Eff self buff, which gives 249.4%. Then, when you use Kayoko NY, it goes to 342.25% (aka they're additive not multiplicative). So that's a 92.85/249.4 = 37.23% increase in DPS
Then, let's say...Hinata. She has no such thing, so Kayoko NY increases hers to 292.85%. That's 92.85/200 = 46.425% increase in DPS
I see. So that's how efficiency works. It's time to visit the "Itjustworks" sheet ig.
It's minor details no one really cares anyway. At the end of the day, you bring as many different buffs as you can
It is also why the EX Dmg/Basics Proficiency buff is so powerful
One needs to understand what his buffs do
In most scenarios, you are at 100% for that
So Seia Swimsuit is a flat 74% buff to EX dmg output
F60 done
Can tell you ran out of students to use when you're bringing Shun lmao
Your Seia survives 2 missiles?
She's there to die. I still can do much better than this so I'll try f63 tmrw maybe
No
So you cancel missile wave with Ballista after the first one
That's how you're barely keeping this team alive
And you have to P2 before the 3rd missile wave hits or you just die
Yeah I'm not doing that yet
You don't cancel missile wave? Then how do you get past 2nd missile wave?
Or do you just never see it because of steel balls disrupting the sequence
Lol I'm not sure If I even reached 3rd missile wave, I always survive the missile wave somehow.
The 2nd missile wave should hit when the 1st Ballista fully charges
Something tells me you just never see it at all
Because you do so much dmg, steel balls come out after 1st missile wave
So the 2nd missile wave gets delayed
Cos 2 of your students die to first missile wave
Even with cover, Akane and Seia are both eating double missiles on 2nd missile wave. At your level they just die
Yeah it's around that time, and I still not sure if it gets canceled mid groggy or some missiles go through
Oh shun survives first missile waves and eats the steel ball away from everyone, and dies. That's her role
Wait I'm confusing names I think. I mean the fire breath
You don't block with cover?
That's the whole purpose of cover, it's to block the fireballs
So your idea is to just save cover deployment cost by sacking someone
That's fireballs
I don't block the first one
The steel balls are the one that destroy the Ballista
Get early start then sack her cos she's useless beyond that

Yeah I'm blocking those, I think I might need to groggy those if I want to go higher
like also neutralizing first fireballs so you don't need to spend cost on cover as well
actually value right there
lvl 1 let me check
even at basic lvl 1 it's a decent amount
23.8
that basic+
17.4
I assume they don't have bg2
at lvl 1
How much damage you are supposed to do in p2? I finish it in 2 or 3 EX when at that point.
I got to P2 before 2nd Ballista lmao
Blue is so easy when it's DPS + DoT 2-in-1 and then I have a Kayoko NY
On top of actually having EX Dmg buffer now
But like you have guaranteed crit and the highest incoming damage debuff at that point, so is that where you are supposed to deal the fastest damage?
That's assuming you keep the reactor gauge under 70%
Maybe If I reach P2 a bit late I can still finish it?
Isn't that too easy for F50-74?
Assuming no survival issues can you clear f74 kayokolet and riolet?
Should be very doable, yea
I literally did not think during my attempy
Actual unga bunga F74 clear
My skills getting dulled because this was too easy 
F49 farmables Kuroko was so much more of a challenge
What are you stopping at 74 then?
Half my team dies at 75
it's bikeroko time 
I think I can only claim her next month
Or is it this month, I forgot
But then again, raising her means I further delay Kuroko 
just don't raise kuroko and solo ssaori dps it
and broko works at EX 1 for the most part, it's still 38.4% atk debuff
And then people ask me why I have every Fest DPS ever and none of them are raised
Are there any additional conditions besides not having those 2?
I don't think that's enough, a missile is over 100k dmg onto Blue Armor
Even on F75
I would need to double Atk Down for sure
Mimori Swimsuit
smimori 
I don't have ny akari too, and no dps built. Other than that it's a matter of do I want to raise a student or not.
Biggest problem for you would be keeping the strikers alive
Got s.hanako maybe? Its 86 even
Shizuko is currently helping you, but I think it's not enough for F74 with your current levels
His main problem is his student levels
shanako for burst 
Level 70 supports with idk what gear
Yeah 3* lvl 80, not sure if that can work.
No she's not gonna do anything unless you have her M777 already or something
well you should build her eventually anyway 
With decent gear
s.hanako is better than random filler, not better than dedicated support
Is yours 3444 or M444 by any chance
built smika should be ok too I guess
Sub level 90 sensei, so not happening
Well I think it's time to test that. I have her M477 now I'm planning to use her for tor chesed anw.
Is 3* Hanako Swimsuit enough for Tor š
guess so, since 3* ichika works
Why not she's there for mobing. I ran some calcs, and it works.
She does enough dmg? Cool
I'm waiting for mock to test rotation though
Thats assuming someone else will attack heart. And she might need kisaki buff for bigger robots
but you still buff mobber after core closes
judging by that you don't have kisaki? Thats bigger issue than no rio 
Yeah no kisaki too
Sad
buidling sseia to survive that gonna be costly

f100 chok blue, last one to complete the full set, was basically free with cshiroko this time
why is f99 soo hard for me
i do 0 damages
idk why
idk why i only deal starting from approximately 92M to 81M
are you following the mechanics
yeah ofc
i'm waiting for it to be yellow reactor to punch the thing in the back
this is the team
youre meant to do damage during groggy
yeah he's groggying
the balista shots his ass
nerf chokmah that's it
why they all dead
Nah you're missing stacks
I see 3x there, which means you had only 2 Unstable Flames when you activated Ballista
what
It's groggy base 50% Dmg Taken debuff + 25% for every Unstable Flame when groggy
Each is a stack, so if you have the full 3 Unstable Flames you should get 4x Dmg Taken debuff on Chok
but its not groggy
its using the steel balls
i think one problem is the lack of a sub dot
Oh wait nvm ye it's the DoT stacks
I forgot that's a thing on F99
Not hitting 5x on that is also a problem
very much
Real question is, how did you go through 2 groggy sessions and only do less than 30m dmg total
is that implied or stated
Only 27s left in the fight
The ballistas still standing
There's also no button there anymore
Might actually be DoT bugging it out and doing 2 groggies in a row
If they used Saori Swimsuit to activate
Remember the Juri one I did
this was old team
with my new team if i do a bit babysitting they survive but look
chokmah just left groggy
this is all i did
Well ofc
do you really need rat there
youre missing a crit dmg buffer
This is, most importantly, missing Bike
reijo
I keep forgetting Chill is interval down and not dmg up
This team's biggest problem is no Bike
Kuroko is never surviving without Bike
How reliable is the dot of PT Juri?
Lol lmao don't even bother
dont
Unless you're doing F74 and you're using her as tank
Which brings the question: why did you even raise this tank
wakaboat isnt here for a while
I didn't raise her
Juri PT's DoT output is pathetic
cool then dont build her
Just asking since I remembered I have her
she wouldnt even fill the role as sub dot
Why does blue chok feels easier? Can't qmarina also solo f74?
qmarina cant solo
phase 2
You are doing far too little dmg during groggy
they do
everyone is alive
it's all about placement
place boshi on pos 1
It's not about placement
It's straight up that Ibuki has only 24% Atk Down
Someone else has Atk Down there otherwise Kuroko doesn't even survive one missile
what if she dodges missile
Damn that's a lucky run I guess
im just guessing
Ye I don't see how Kuroko survives without just flat out dodging missile
that what happened here
.
Yo, i beat f74
Told you ezpz
You rolled a Kuroko dodge
Otherwise it will be like your first screenshot where Kuroko died
Not that ez imo, my kuroko and s.seia almost died sometimes
Kuroko moment
That's normal
Yours is barely surviving double missile with Bike
Mine is surviving with fat shield
Same thing
Also, I do so much dmg
I never see missiles again after the first one
So, no survival problems at all
i finished stage 24 but i donāt think i did it right bc the blue bar under the health bar didnt really move at all for the whole fight, and i thought i was supposed to lower it
Itās supposed to be lowered
i get that, and i thought it was dot attacks that lowered it
Iām guessing your chise is 2* and rat doesnāt have bond gear
i think theyāre both lvl 1
Issue isnāt the levels
You donāt even have dot
^
?
oh
Only there to proc the dmg increase stacks on chokmah at f75 and above
so theyāre useless atm for me?
Since you said the reactor gauge didnāt move at all yes
They canāt even inflict dot so itās worthless
Itās not supposed to be above 70%
Or else you lose out on a ton of damage
well i donāt think i have any way of lowering it
yeah this is why the suspicion that your chise is 2* (no sub skill) and c.saya not having BG (no dot in basic without it)
Borrow ssaori then
yea i think she is
Youāre better off borrowing ssaori then
and using what for a main dps?
Ssaori
Do you have kisaki?
this enough?
no kisaki no rio
Sseia?
Nykayoko?
i think i do have her
How built
Why not send your roster
then no
Also what about your specials
iāll forward the msg from gameplay help
i donāt have the one nice screenshot, sry
itās not a huge deal i think if i canāt get too much done for frr
iām still rly early game i think
Yeah I think this is about it unfortunately
I donāt see much else that works
all good i suppose
I suppose you can take out some useless stuff like ochin crat and chise to cycle your ssaori faster during ballista
Starting with your specials because they don't get the cost buff
if i canāt do stage 49 in like 5 attempts then its whatever lol
iāll try this
one attempt in and thereās like a zero percent chance that this happens
oh well
i didn't even know she could dodge man
this was on my first run
she dodged twice
the same round
fill the last special with shizuko
even if you could brute force f49 with this, your other options are lacking and it helps you learn the fight with what attacks can be blocked by it
you can dodge them?
It's to block his wheel attack
Also if you can find a better ssaori that would be good
the missiles? yeah kuroko has enough evasion to dodge them (reasonably)
I'm referring to wheel, fireball, and flamethrower
first time eva malding?
club and friend list is dry
You can probably find a better one at #1108594770332373143
Your current one is a very very low bar
This is more than enough
#1459364729356161057 message
Check if this guy is still open
Ako Kotama with Kuroko is enough. If you have Saori Swimsuit it's 10x easier
list is full
tbh iām not sure it rly matters bc of the rest of the team
2* kotama isnt doing shit
whatās the difference?
like with chise, no subskill
that passive buff matters
2* Kotama still matters for the Atk Down
Where was that screenshot of a level 71 doing floor like 63
Finished floor 63 but struggling to get much higher and im level 90... 
Found it
Hyperbuffing huh

just properly built s.saori will take you very far
you mean like this for example? 
F65 clear
At this rate I only need better bhosh investments to push past f70
Damn only 15m hp diff between f74 and 65. There is a chance.
If I already activated the ballistaes for the 2nd time, and got chokmah between 40 and 35% will he still do the 2nd steel wheel after groggy?
He will, but at that point you don't care anymore
if boshi doesnt die building her will not help much. She does no damage as you can see
Would be nice to have her be the only cover for the fire breath part
Having to alternate between shizuko and her every like 12s is a pain
if she collapses so fast its no good indeed
Building some cost for p2 instead of entering it right after 2nd groggy with 0 cost.
f100 done
ibuki and kotama conflict on everything, no reason to bring both
if you bring c.shiroko instead of ibuki you'll solve survival issues supposedly
The problem is you are trying to rely on an unreliable strat
If you want to play the dodge RNG game, well...
Wait the steel wheel deals damage to the covers?
Ye lmao
Lol my shizuko cover dies to it on f74
@sage fractal I'm testing if I need to heal mid missiles for akane/sseia to survive.
It seems with this formation akane is the one that is supposed to be targeted by the 9th missile. I'm just not sure if the last missile got interrupted by groggy or if she blocked it.
This is the 2nd missile wave after shun and cherino died.
Is akane needed there? I see you are using her to press button, but consider replacing with unit which doesn't need babysitting.
Regarding cherino/shun its probably also better to bring tanks to do nothing and generate cost passively rather than having 2 dead
Might want aoe healer over Serina too, but I have no idea what units you have available
I need to fit 3 saori EXs in one groggy, and I only need 4 alive for p2. I can't aford to cover more than 3 lines of fire breath.
I'm trying to minmax this comp first before I try something else.
It should be possible to cover all 6 students with single cover though. Doesn't work for your setup?
Yeah you could, but how many cones are you covering that way. You eat more damage if you try to cover like 5 cones at once no?
Is it 3 or 5? Also first time I hear you take more damage from covering more lines, does it really work like that?
What is her badge level
everything's T9
Itās all luck
same goes for saori and all the specials
Whatās your team now
(dw about my doodles)
Why acari over kotama
Acari and kotama fill a similar role here
If youāre not doing damage during groggy then something is extremely wrong
we only do about 10M
idk why
Could you record a run?
sure i'm logging in
5 cones
Also yes you do take more damage
just tell me what am i doing wrong
1: youāre not buffing ssaori with kisaki the first time
2: youāre using kuroko ex when itās not groggy
3: youāre using ako when not groggy, especially on ssaori during the prep phase
4: youāre activating groggy way too early when you only had 1 stack and ups didnāt save cost for groggy
The most glaring problems Iāve observed in your run
you can use terror ex outside of groggy when he's in recovery mode
maybe not on the first/second stack
tips first dont ever give ako ex to saori instead only kuroko, seccond proc saori ex with kisaki buff and reijo in same time
how do i see the stack
kkk
The yellow flame icon
like what the symbol
k
so it happens when chokmah goes to recovery but how many do i need for first groggy
i think
Try to get 3 stacks
i did everything u guys told me
You shouldāve entered p2 the moment the second groggy is done
this is already second groggy passed
Thatās not p2
Your damage is too low
More than 20m dmg off
Just to be clear, do you have Rio?
yes
What is the level of your skirino and Rio sub skill?
8
Do you have snagisa?
no
Id say replace kotama with Rio
now koruko dies
sigh first groggy damage
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Damage is far too low even then




need more dps

