🗼final-restriction-release

[slim basin]

I tried looking on my own but couldn't really find any, is there a playlist of floor 100 clears for yellow Tip?

ideally using SHasumi but SYukari is fine as well

[pseudo grove]

https://souriki-border.com/final-restriction-release/6

[slim basin]

ty

[sour garden]

how can she stay auto attacking but out of ex range?

[pseudo grove]

she's autoattacking the core

doesn't matter; you're not really supposed to shoot the heart at this point

[sour garden]

well yes

she is in aa range

how can she be in aa range and out of ex range at the same time?

[pseudo grove]

she's autoattacking the red core, not the heart

at least that's whar it looks like

[sour garden]

no, she's aa the main body

[pseudo grove]

kek that's weird then

[pseudo grove]

shouldn't happen

[sour garden]

well it does

i actually remember similar bug in goz where aa can go do different target compared to basic skill

aa goes to goz main body but ns goes to some leftover mob

[languid oriole]

after adding you
one of my friend finally put their yukari on assist

it ue30 anyway

time to cope f74 with iori somehow

[lyric atlas]

Imma momoi

[rare arch]

Good luck with that

[rare arch]

I kneel

[lapis mauve]

moi is used for laser phase right?

[rare arch]

No

[lapis mauve]

who deals with that then

like the boxes

[lyric atlas]

Laze at the start of red wave? Just tank it and time Yuuka right after it removes the shield
Laze when running? Ye lots of momois

[rare arch]

How built is your momoi

[lapis mauve]

not super built, but i can fix that pretty easy

i also have S hasumi and yukari but they arent built yet

not sure if they fill the same role or not

[lyric atlas]

Dump a huge amount of buffs on her should be fine

Only f74 after all

[rare arch]

Oh f74

Thought I was on something

[lapis mauve]

bro UE50d moi

based

[lyric atlas]

Should be ue60 if I still have weapon parts

Dump all on Luna Hod

[rare arch]

Would you f99 with momoi

[lyric atlas]

Nah no chance lmao

[lapis mauve]

what would you use for that

[lyric atlas]

She barely kill the mobs with full buff on f74 already

[lyric atlas]

Just simply buy her eleph on shop, nothing much

[lapis mauve]

i mean what student would you use for f99

[rare arch]

TA shop

[lyric atlas]

Borrow s.yukari or s.hasumi
Then wait for next day to do 100
I have no other choice

[lapis mauve]

thanks

is yukari or hasumi better?

i have both

[lyric atlas]

Yukari better

[lapis mauve]

thank

[lapis mauve]

i do but shes only lvl 72

[languid oriole]

🦖

[languid oriole]

S U F F E R

[cosmic parrot]

pollo

[languid oriole]

cmon aoba shoot the 1 hp spooder

[cosmic parrot]

holy reach

[languid oriole]

how did that happen

[cosmic parrot]

bruh was close till aoba walked back

threw a generational run

[chilly berry]

f99 3*syukari

[river axle]

F74

[rare arch]

Boshi f74 ssg I kneel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1206158015162744933.gif?size=256&quality=lossless&name=HyperKneel

[river axle]

I haven't build Aoba yet, so I used Boshi

[rare arch]

Not building aoba is such a power move

I wish I could’ve done that but no Mika

[cosmic parrot]

ok imma try out solo syukari

[rare arch]

Why

[cosmic parrot]

lol shit

cancelled some syukari basics

syukari ex animation is stupidly fast

[rare arch]

So it’s possible?

[cosmic parrot]

yes

[rare arch]

What’s the catch here

[cosmic parrot]

idk if its supposed to be comfy

but had to save scum some cost

by tanking some attacks

but again

f99 hits like a joke

[rare arch]

I don’t have ui so replicating that would be a lot harder

[cosmic parrot]

i keep having too much cost lol

[rare arch]

Could you record a run

[pseudo grove]

was gonna say hare is probably better than cherino

if you have too much cost then doubly so

[cosmic parrot]

oh i just put in cherino cus whateevr

why hare though

[pseudo grove]

because rio's atk buff is weak

[cosmic parrot]

oh lol chare

[rare arch]

Would be really good

If not for the fact that I don’t have her

[pseudo grove]

how would you put base hare in place of cherino

[cosmic parrot]

idk forgo she isnt striker for a sec

holy 3 atk buffers in a team

buff cancelling pro max

bruh im not rly used to rio chare cycle

didnt do kaede strat before

[rare arch]

So what else could work over cherino

[pseudo grove]

null

5 strikers

[rare arch]

Only thing I’m missing is just ui

[cosmic parrot]

dude syukari procs her basic at the worst time possible

[rare arch]

Yes

[cosmic parrot]

im not gonna run chare

sisyphus

[pseudo grove]

syukari's ex animation lasts like 10 seconds

so you can definitely manip NS timings

[cosmic parrot]

basic you mean?

her ex is like 4s

[pseudo grove]

yea that's long

[rare arch]

I time the ex skill to spawncamp the labourers

[cosmic parrot]

no like she only procs at the end of a wave

annoying

[pseudo grove]

I died once when I had the bright idea of precasting yukari before she took the shield

and she just sat for 4 seconds after shooting

and died

[rare arch]

Just how bad is it to do solo syukari dps on f99 then

[cosmic parrot]

ok im just skill issued

[cosmic parrot]

kinda harder than purple cus no yellow eff

other than her basic

[rare arch]

No good yellow eff

[cosmic parrot]

which also takes a billion seconds

[pseudo grove]

maybe seia can survive 99 if you commit?

[rare arch]

Id have to really commit

[pseudo grove]

but then she'd still have to stay close to yukari

good luck with that

[rare arch]

Considering how they like to run into danger

Uh yeah

It’s either tyuuka invest or special stat transfer

[cosmic parrot]

gotta quadruple syukari on wave 2+3

considering cancelling syukaru basic

cus its too low

[rare arch]

4 syukari skills on wave 2+3 total or each

[cosmic parrot]

each lol

same with solo dsaori/rei strat

[rare arch]

Oh dear

How should I time her skill then?

[pseudo grove]

4:25 3:50 3:15 2:40 2:05 1:30 0:55 0:20
you can already stall the first cast because it's mid wave 1

[rare arch]

Go all in once core groggies?

[pseudo grove]

second yukari at 4:25.100

then she casts NS at 4:20.600

and you can stall the second cast around 3:45 on wave 2 because it's mid wave 2

and you have 10 seconds of offset

the real nightmare is keeping hoshino in range

[rare arch]

I can understand that

How do I use the 4 syukari skills in waves 2+3 then

[pseudo grove]

just rotate one cycle

2 real yukaris 2 rios

[cosmic parrot]

ok its kinda rng idk why

also syukari stands too far

cant get shosh

[cosmic parrot]

[chilly berry]

[rare arch]

After doing a whole lot of f99

The microwave beam can’t kill all the labourers on one side before awakening apparently

Just barely survives

[pastel turtle]

Who can i use to break the obstacles? I always get stuck at that stage

Iori jumps back into the beam

[chilly berry]

[cosmic parrot]

whos ur borrow

[pastel turtle]

mika

[cosmic parrot]

momoi

syukari shasumi

[chilly berry]

???

[pseudo grove]

yes, these two love going on adventures

[cosmic parrot]

OH WAIT

i forgo snagisa is coming

yea ill wait till she comes

to do this

sisyphus

[unreal shard]

Is it better to borrow UE40 rio or UE50 tyuuka?

[pseudo grove]

depends on your comp

[cosmic parrot]

and ur strat

[unreal shard]

My team

[pseudo grove]

borrow shiggy and replace nyf with ako

[thorny wraith]

that was ass

[pseudo grove]

guess I work at burger king now?

[cosmic parrot]

[pseudo grove]

why

it's supposed to be 3 ticks

is there an autoattack in between?

[cosmic parrot]

does this apply

[pseudo grove]

I thought that only applied to rockets

but I guess it says "all damage"

and it must be the attack augment buff he has

[cosmic parrot]

finally someone else cleared 104

truly uhe

[rare arch]

Hoshino if she didn’t lock in

[pseudo grove]

there are 4 ticks

[unreal shard]

https://youtu.be/q_rDIf3KBXA?si=KEO5EezwRQ3WA_gD

This team is kinda crazy for stage 104

No s hoshino

[pseudo grove]

this "additional 100% damage" is just a duplication of a damage tick?

ahahahahh

nagisa really is op

this def makes the difference

[rare arch]

Snagisa really has more stats

[pseudo grove]

111 inherited def is crazy

[rare arch]

How much of a difference does that make

[pseudo grove]

from 10% to 15% reduction

[sage fractal]

I guess she's just a staple for Chok and Tiph

Cost debt and Def stat transfer both is way too good to pass up

[pseudo grove]

anyway shiggy 2:04.800

[sage fractal]

Imagine if Michiru Dress is also bag

[languid oriole]

bro is not like anyone can see the formation name 🥀

unless you show them ofc

[unreal shard]

guess I have to wait for nagisa for easier clear

[cosmic parrot]

trading ako epik heals

[pseudo grove]

109 is doable with a dozen mistakes

[cosmic parrot]

how many mika ex for each waves

[pseudo grove]

3

[cosmic parrot]

wtf

[pseudo grove]

I mean, you can't do 4

as you said her animation is too long

and you have to wait for the core to groggy

[cosmic parrot]

no like how many did you fit for wave 2/3

or 4

[pseudo grove]

it's 3 for each wave

real, clone, real

[cosmic parrot]

tf how tight is that without snagi

[pseudo grove]

I mean you cast

[cosmic parrot]

wtf i got dynoed

anyway

[pseudo grove]

mika kisaki ako in this order

[cosmic parrot]

ouh

[pseudo grove]

and you are halfway into the next cycle

and there's a rio clone in between

so it's 3 mikas one after another

[cosmic parrot]

mika always runs to the opposite side of the open core

[pseudo grove]

actually unlucky

on wave 2 and 3 at worst she will walk towards the middle core but should still be in range

[cosmic parrot]

and syukari once right

let fire deal with the other

[pseudo grove]

yes but this doesn't work on 105~107

108 is actually easier

[shy sapphire]

Dafuq how? I'm barely getting two ex's on wave 2 and wave 3, completely skip wave 4 and 2 ex's again at groggy when I did my f100 run

[pseudo grove]

if you rio on yukari then you get 2 mikas at most

and I think you have to rio on yukari on floor 100

at least on wave 4

[cosmic parrot]

i got 2 on wave 2 and 3 on wave 3

[shy sapphire]

Yes that's exactly what I did, otherwise a group of drones would survive and heal tiphy

[pseudo grove]

you accumulate cost between waves, precast yukari on the middle core and precast rio on mika

and then throw everything at the side core when it's eligible for groggy

[shy sapphire]

Is t.yuuka shield really that much beefier that you can allocate cost from o.shigu to mika?

[pseudo grove]

and on floor 108 middle core will wipe out the side core's laborers

[pseudo grove]

I don't really know how kaede comps work

[cosmic parrot]

me neither

bruh

[shy sapphire]

Oh I'm a masochist, I run s.eimi

[pseudo grove]

ochin?

[shy sapphire]

I actually do this on the first wave too, there's a window right when the drones spawn that they don't have their dmg reduction applied

[pseudo grove]

you mean on the left core?

[shy sapphire]

Yep, rotation, tanky for a non-tank and decent aspeed buff to mika as well

[pseudo grove]

mika's AAs barely matter when she spends most of the time attacking shielded targets

[shy sapphire]

Yep, saves me a bunch of mental energy

[shy sapphire]

True, she's primarily just there for the rotation value in spite of not having t.yuuka

[pseudo grove]

ok precasting yukari on wave 1 is a good idea

it probably saves like 500k damage but it's something

[cosmic parrot]

??

[shy sapphire]

Did t.yuuka get caught in the microwave or something?

[cosmic parrot]

no

@pseudo grove tf do you even buff syukari after wave 1

she cant kill mobs

[pseudo grove]

just hoshino

[cosmic parrot]

how tf

[pseudo grove]

even in wave 1 buffing her won't be needed with mech's tech

[pseudo grove]

it is a critstab check but largely in your favor

and after wave 1 she only has a bit over 5 seconds of downtime on her NS

but I didn't pay attention

[cosmic parrot]

literally min maxxing cost to the end

even considering not buffing her at all for wave 1

[pseudo grove]

this is without NS

110+ is all the same

[cosmic parrot]

rip shosh

also 80mil too much

[pseudo grove]

in this 109 run I had 50M

[cosmic parrot]

literally how lol

mika does shit dmg

[pseudo grove]

(and then played the final phase really badly so it doesn't need to be so low)

mika deals like 5M per boom
that's a lot

[cosmic parrot]

nozomi deals 11

or 10

oh u mean the final boom

[pseudo grove]

ok but the boom isn't the whole ex

[cosmic parrot]

but no her ex animation is still too long

for her dmg

also lol

[pseudo grove]

at least LB her atk

[cosmic parrot]

how to exclude enh skill on schaledb

[pseudo grove]

on the students list?

[cosmic parrot]

ye

[pseudo grove]

there's a skills button

bottom left corner of stats

[fading thicket]

1 sec left on f74
I should probably copy a hw rotation instead of making it up lol
Also i wish we had a red armor healer. Changin Hanako for Kaede would be so much comfier

[cosmic parrot]

ouh ok

damn ue50 is like

150 more atk

😟

[fading thicket]

Why do i see hw guides moving Aoba to the left first? Isnt it better to get that dmg increase from left core bomb hitting the right one?

This thing or am i misunderstanding it

[cosmic parrot]

mostly a preference

top clears dont even send aoba wave 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOwVZ52hYYs i dont either

[fading thicket]

Only thing i can imagine is they want to break the core shield asap

[cosmic parrot]

might be cus you wanna use double syukari asap

since left core u gotta wait like 10s

[pseudo grove]

wave 1 is skipped because even if you groggy the right core you haven't accumulated cost to blow mika on it

the videos you saw move her to the left to break the damage reduction but you can just kisaki
or shoot it down before the reduction even triggers

[pseudo grove]

ouchhh why did you rio yukari on groggy

well you still made 3 shots

[cosmic parrot]

idk i decided clearing all bots first would do more dmg

sadly

[pseudo grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOdMhnayAo

[cosmic parrot]

lmfao i threw this

generational throw

[shy sapphire]

Just did a f102 run, copied my f100 run to the letter but the difference was that ui's ex on mika just before the end of the laser phase got cancelled 😭, was left with 15 million hp with 3 drones leftover

[cosmic parrot]

oh shit i accidentally cleared 104 twice LOL

now its showing 2 clears of mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMa0c5hC8sY

forgo to record first clear

[flat widget]

ssg Archangel

[rose hemlock]

wth tiph enjoyer

[pseudo grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWGoll3uFeY

well this would have cleared 97

[peak mantle]

it was fun

[peak mantle]

congrats ig

[peak mantle]

yes i used a purple team against a yellow

[frank iris]

i cant do floor 49

[rare arch]

What is your team

[frank iris]

iori, borrowed shasumi, aoba, shoshino, koharu, tyuuka, rio, sshizuna, kisaki, ako

i clearly dont know how to use aoba..

my iori is UE50, borrowed shasumi is 4-stars

[rare arch]

Have any syukari borrows?

[steep jungle]

For tiph f100 yellow, with the setups I see on YT, is Ako really more crucial than S. Nagisa because of her heals that is preferred over a longer crit dmg buff?

[frank iris]

no one seems to have it up yet... I did for the last raid

[rare arch]

Do you at least have a better shasumi borrrow

[shy sapphire]

Heals is just more comfy, especially if you have one particularly liable student to dying which in most cases is Ui

[regal arrow]

UOGHHH I DID IT!!! FK TIPHY

[ruby fjord]

Floor 70, should have gone to floor 74 with this team

[rare arch]

🥥

[unreal shard]

zamn

It took me more than an hour just to come up with a timestamp for skills

A video I based my homework did not provide a timestamp so I have to improvise it

[fading thicket]

I was thinking of doing like this but doesnt Kokona get close to dying with her blue armor?
I wish we already had Takane at least

[cosmic parrot]

f74 hits even more of a joke

do anything and youl still survive

[rare arch]

Kokona could work even on f99 but has some survival issues there

[peak mantle]

i'm fucking cooked

hopefully they give us some free for christmas

i'm definitely not going for copies

i need to pull mika because she's a wife but i also like nigasa 😭 🙏

[chilly berry]

i realized i have no crit dmg

[cosmic parrot]

🛐

[languid oriole]

ok

instead of coping with iori

time to cope with uneru

[rare arch]

Why cope with iori

[languid oriole]

faster ex skill

the drawback is...

[rare arch]

She’s gonna be dead

[languid oriole]

she fucking dies

using uneru however

tiph down to 9M hp

[rare arch]

Iori in here is worse than dipping your balls in hydrochloric acid

[languid oriole]

while dead iori

10M

[rare arch]

I watched a run with uneru on f99

I might be enlightened

[languid oriole]

i have 2 options now

1. fuck it and build uneru more

2. pray next week i get mika

[rare arch]

Building uneru more is not very good here

I’m just gonna wait for Mika

Hopefully with the ligma I get I could buff tyuuka more

If that’s what it takes for my clear

[languid oriole]

:seiaspeed:

[rare arch]

Oh wtf

Ue30 uneru

No human rights

[languid oriole]

the reason why i 2pan hier

[rare arch]

No wonder

I got her ue50 just to make hiero 1 pan consistent

[languid oriole]

meanwhile i barely do 2pan

[rare arch]

I was borrowing imari

Because I’d rather quit the game if I had to cope with koharu

[languid oriole]

kokonut

[rare arch]

Of course

What were you even doing with the first team

What was the borrow

[languid oriole]

who else

uneru

[rare arch]

How did you not 1 pan that

Oh wait I see now

But why didn’t you build your uneru

[languid oriole]

1st fest (last year) i got like

nothing

dupes and spook of non limited

only dhina to pity me

and spark for kuroko

meanwhile last fest

basically every fest student (except two...) spook me

so i build them

now no materials for uneru

[rare arch]

I built uneru because chokmah balls

That let me beat f100

[cosmic parrot]

no s.ui

i got quite close without

[pseudo grove]

there's such a drought of potential buffers

[rare arch]

Only thing I’m missing is ui

[pseudo grove]

I attempted makoto with atsuko as the healer (shiggy is overkill)

but atsuko has the same attack range as aobest

[rare arch]

So the cores 50/50 and choose her?

[pseudo grove]

seems like it yeah

seems like a coinflip

or whoever is closer the moment there's the phase switch (?)

but you really don't want to precast aoba

[cosmic parrot]

yea its a coinflip

:restart:

[pseudo grove]

just win 4 coinflips in a row

[rare arch]

Does sui need that much invest?

[pseudo grove]

probably not

only t9 hairpin and shoes
but there is a gamble in wave 1 whether she will survive with no healing

(but one could just cast shiggy there)

[rare arch]

I see

[pseudo grove]

as long as she's shielded she shouldn't die

99 doesn't hit hard

[rare arch]

Could seia work if I can keep her alive?

[pseudo grove]

yeah all the defenses are aoe

and seia and sui should have comparable survivability

[ruby fjord]

Nah she doesn't, Seia is the one that struggles to survive most of the time, at least in my experience

[quartz dagger]

maki kinda annoying in here, who can i put in instead

also wdym stage 50 has 80M hp

???

[cosmic parrot]

rio borrow? thats not ideal

actually nvm shasumi crossed my eyes

borrow kisaki instead maybe?

bring a shielder too

like kaede

do you know tiphy mechanics

[pseudo grove]

nah rio is more important than kisaki

kisaki is there in her striker form, and this looks like floor 7x or 8x so she presumably lives no problem

nvm it's even lower

maki and iori are dead slots
it would literally be better to keep those slots empty

[cosmic parrot]

man i completely forgo what sseia does

4am stuff

anyway can replace maki with ui/seia?

[pseudo grove]

this is actually so much easier

no need to think about the rotation, just ooga booga

[quartz dagger]

ye i double her skill

[quartz dagger]

ye, if shielded he does nearly no dmg but i wonder if i can even do the 80M dmg

maybe i will just stay at 49, chill a bit, get some T9 gears etc

[rare arch]

If I raise sui and tyuuka I could do that

[chilly berry]

UI>Seia ig

red armor

[rare arch]

Ui is preferred but I don’t have her

[light aurora]

how the fuck do I make tiphareth stunned at phase 2 I'm genuiently stuck

he stuns somehow and I don't know how I do it

[rare arch]

Are you killing the labourers?

[light aurora]

like the direct cores?

I usually attack the lil guys around it

[rare arch]

The labourers are the little guys around the cores

[light aurora]

yes I am then

do I need all of them?

[cosmic parrot]

yes all

plus reflect missiles

sent from right core

[rare arch]

Last wave you don’t need to kill any since groggy ends up killing those labourers anyway

Reflecting missiles with shields

[light aurora]

so labourers + missile reflect stuns

[cosmic parrot]

should be enough

it gets more strict higher floors

[light aurora]

I can tell

[rare arch]

Doesn’t groggy build with any core self damage?

[cosmic parrot]

beats me

[light aurora]

I believe so...?

that stun though is vital to a run right now

so it's why I needed to know

thx mates

[cosmic parrot]

most signifincant are defeating labourers and reflecting missiles

then sending sticky bomb

[light aurora]

so labourers -> reflect -> sticky bomb

[rare arch]

Dodging the microwave beam is natural

[cosmic parrot]

ur gonna send aoba every wave then so dont worry abt sticky bomb

[light aurora]

usually the first priority

[cosmic parrot]

gotta shield ur students when right core fires missiles

[light aurora]

I know the core mechanics I just needed to know when it stuns is all

[rare arch]

It’s at the fifth wave

[light aurora]

okay so it's only once

[rare arch]

Twice

The second time is after the escape sequence

[light aurora]

that's all I need

[rare arch]

Last minute of the raid

[light aurora]

thanks greatly

[cosmic parrot]

u need to charge this bar

only stuns when this is maxed

[light aurora]

alright

[neon condor]

barrier skills are like the shields mari gives right? or is it something else?

[rare arch]

Like Mari

But you need team wide shields

[neon condor]

awwwww

[cosmic parrot]

kaede is farmable

[languid oriole]

you can still use seia for section 3

but on section 4 onward

she fucking dies

[rare arch]

Unless you like babysitting seia

[languid oriole]

who said i have her in the first place

[rare arch]

You don’t even have tyuuka

Good luck even keeping seia alive without tyuuka

[languid oriole]

i never use seia anyway

[rare arch]

That’s what I just said

[pseudo grove]

on 99 and below seia is better

on 100 and up you have to use ui

[zenith lagoon]

Whats the most comfy f74 clear?

[cosmic parrot]

do you have mika

[zenith lagoon]

Yeah. I think i have all core students needed. I think im just torn which yellow aoe to use

[cosmic parrot]

borrow syukari

[zenith lagoon]

My club does not have one. I think ill just level her up

[rare arch]

Find someone who has

[unreal shard]

[unreal shard]

I tried and got overwhelmed by stage 74

camera angle even worse than goz

[rare arch]

I think I’m going somewhere

Just need to make seia survive and boom

[chilly berry]

UI

[languid oriole]

borrow my ui

[cosmic parrot]

time to nuke tiphy tmr

[uncut lodge]

so how much investment s.ui needs to survive?

[pseudo grove]

no idea
and I can't exactly downgrade my uis

but she only has a t9 pin and tyuuka is only ue1

impoverished 3* seia survives but she has slightly better base HP and a self-shield which may or may not matter

[ruby fjord]

@waxen orbit Hi, sorry for the ping, do you have a spot available? I'll make sure to unfriend after borrowing your S.Yukari, thank you

[fading thicket]

I was wondering how far could you get with Kaede as shields?🤔

[waxen orbit]

Yeah letme unfriend sum rq

[ruby fjord]

Thanks!

[waxen orbit]

Done

[cosmic parrot]

106

[lean veldt]

for purple tiph how much invest does dsaori need

[cosmic parrot]

3* enough

for 100

[worldly leaf]

is s. hasumi the main dps in this final restriction?

[cosmic parrot]

no

syukari is main mobber

mika is main dps

[worldly leaf]

😔

ok ok

[languid oriole]

hey look its the platinum guy

[rare arch]

How much better is snagisa compared to ako for f99?

[worldly leaf]

NUH UH

[cosmic parrot]

i do not know snagisa well enough to answer that

also mikalet?

might have to test that

[rare arch]

Still mikalet

[languid oriole]

[rare arch]

Fest gave me mostly garbage anyway

[languid oriole]

i got the biggest w anyway

i aint complaining

[rare arch]

I got a kisaki spook

Just based on calcs alone, snagisa buff is slightly weaker than ako here

[spark epoch]

What… doesn’t S. Nagisa provide more Crit DMG?

[rare arch]

Yeah

But ako has crit buff too

[spark epoch]

Why does Mika want a crit buff?

[rare arch]

I’m using uneru

Because fest is troll

For uneru ako buff is better

But snagisa stat transfer could let seia survive ceremonial dawn at full hp without shield

[spark epoch]

……Well for JK Neru perhaps Ako is better on paper provided you have enough cost.

[rare arch]

Might be an issue

[cosmic parrot]

uneru skill animation is like

twice mika lmao

u dont need snagisa

[rare arch]

Stat transfer

The extra defense would let seia survive better

[cosmic parrot]

in exchange of ako epik heals?

[rare arch]

Idk how much her heals actually helped me

[rare arch]

absolute cinema

Seia actually survived to the end in this run

Snagisa might’ve been the difference that made this run possible

[fleet kindle]

At 74 for now

Just lazy to progress

[rare arch]

Building shasumi

[fleet kindle]

I just got sdesuno after shasumi 💀

[rare arch]

[languid oriole]

she got my hope up when the swimsuit background and hyak logo appears

mimori also

oh and kikyu during the 100 free pulls

[fleet kindle]

sometime hasumi fail to kill the minicores

dunno if unlucky stab

[cosmic parrot]

just buff her

that shasumi with full buffs should kill every mob

[fleet kindle]

juat now manage to stun the boss b4 laser phase

[languid oriole]

you cant do that b4?

[fleet kindle]

yea coz i was running blind xD

[languid oriole]

[fleet kindle]

phase 2 u cant kill all the mini cores right?

mostly killed 1-2 dunno what the hell those mob call

[rare arch]

Wdym cores

[languid oriole]

workers

[rare arch]

Oh labourers

[pseudo grove]

you are supposed to kill all laborers

[rare arch]

Leave none surviving

[fleet kindle]

during phase 2 i couldnt kill all of them

can only kill 2

[pseudo grove]

you mean 2 sets out of 3?

[fleet kindle]

ye

[pseudo grove]

need rio on your aoe

[languid oriole]

here a tip

at the start of the wave

use your aoe first

[rare arch]

Try to spawncamp one side with your aoe

[languid oriole]

then shield and repo

[rare arch]

Not the Rio copied aoe skill

[languid oriole]

theyll appear faster on the skill card when you trying to rotate

wave 5 is actually the easiest if you kill every single labourers beforehand

[rare arch]

You only need to kill one side max

Sometimes not at all

[languid oriole]

bc you just need shield and repo to groggy tiph and all the mobs will self destruct on their own

[languid oriole]

you dont need to kill on wave 5

[rare arch]

I said max

[languid oriole]

just repo and shield

[languid oriole]

my name is max

[fleet kindle]

so just bounce missile and direct laser to other?

[languid oriole]

[fleet kindle]

on wave 5

[languid oriole]

yea

[pseudo grove]

on wave 5 just aober to the right, and shield your team

and that should trigger groggy

[languid oriole]

on section 4 youll save your aoe dps for the drones that spawn

[fleet kindle]

oh

noted

will try on 99 later

[rare arch]

The microwave beam managed to kill all the labourers on the 3rd wave

Usually it leaves one with very little hp

Idk how that happened

[pseudo grove]

stab check

tiph has about 90% stab

[rare arch]

Stab check on microwave beam

[languid oriole]

can we go back to the old day where people mald with yuzu

[pseudo grove]

that's an acc check

old units with their 50 base acc

[languid oriole]

[rare arch]

If I can get seia to survive and do enough damage then I could win

Seia survived but I didn’t do enough damage this time

[pseudo grove]

isn't your seia 5*? she should have no trouble living

unless you misplay shield before ceremonial dawn

[rare arch]

She did survive

I think it’s a bit easier with snagisa

[cosmic parrot]

damn 2

[languid oriole]

thanks it was me

when i do f24

[cosmic parrot]

time to cook a brand new rot with snagisa

might need to ue40 aoba since no ako apik heals

and catch aoba in oshig heal more frequently

aka

more balding

[pseudo grove]

I spent 10 minutes cooking nagisa ns timings

and then remembered tiph has no cdmg res

[stone walrus]

didnt know f100 is so free mika making sure u need to mald her own positioning lmao

[cosmic parrot]

great now do 106

[pseudo grove]

109 is free

[stone walrus]

gib me oshig ill do it in a beat

[cosmic parrot]

106 is doable with hanako

[stone walrus]

true why is it hard?

[cosmic parrot]

its not?

[stone walrus]

idk?

[cosmic parrot]

just mika ex animation is too fucking long

[stone walrus]

[pseudo grove]

mika khalifa

[stone walrus]

we saw that

[stone walrus]

u done doing it?

[cosmic parrot]

https://youtu.be/fOwVZ52hYYs

ue40 mika + messed up syukari timing and mika too

now with snagisa

but im tired today

[stone walrus]

[stone walrus]

ohhh good luck it's kinda close

[cosmic parrot]

its rly the ue50 mika diff

[stone walrus]

no plan on ue50ing mika? i think u can go farther

yea

[cosmic parrot]

im just lazy to upgrade

[stone walrus]

tho knowing u probably not

[cosmic parrot]

500 eligma ehh

[pseudo grove]

you have 11k

[stone walrus]

out of like 20k in ur inventory

[cosmic parrot]

ok nvm its actually cheap

😟

[stone walrus]

[cosmic parrot]

man i kinda wanna push the limits of ue40 ngl

ima ue50 after ep shop reset ig

[shut flint]

does UE30 S.yukari do a good enough job on 74f

just got her in fest pulls and decided to raise her a bit

but anythign higher than UE30 is a bit taxing on me

not planning to go any higher than 74f

[pseudo grove]

https://tryitands.ee

[cosmic parrot]

more than enough

[pseudo grove]

(yes it's more than enough)

[shut flint]

ok cool beans

I'm gonna wait until a bit later in the month to do it cause I am unable to max her skills rn and the gear is not great atm either

but wanted to check in here to make sure I wasn't wasting my time lol

[pseudo grove]

4* or even 3* should work on floor 100

[shut flint]

I tried the funny solo mika w/makoto clear for 74f but had no makotos in my borrows above UE30 and the UE30 makoto wasn't consistent at all

[pseudo grove]

makoto is a fraud unfortunately

[shut flint]

expected

[shut flint]

oh yeah ok no that was super chill (outside of figuring out the weird repos shit and why sometimes yukari or mika would be super far away)

very crusty yukari that's not fully invested

[cosmic parrot]

fucking hell

[quiet jewel]

just ue50 mika

[languid oriole]

ue30 ui

why is she on life support

[uncut lodge]

because s.nagi I guess

s.nagi doesn't have heal like ako

[outer sentinel]

doing world-class gymnastics because I don't have resources to raise the units I got recently
is 75 even doable with just 1 aoe dps?

[sage fractal]

Even at the highest floors it's 1 AoE DPS

[pseudo grove]

99 is doable with yukari solo dps

[outer sentinel]

is t.yuuka a hard requirement for upper floors? I don't see this working f75+

kokona and s.seia are imploding as is

[cosmic parrot]

no

kaede

[outer sentinel]

hmm, when I tried running her, my dps was much lower and I still need bg2

[cosmic parrot]

ofc

cus no crit buffer

[outer sentinel]

the survivability improves, but it's probably not an upgrade over this current team

[cosmic parrot]

and yes kaede bg2 is nice

yes tyuuka is more dps

[sage fractal]

Well, that was easy

[rare arch]

F24 is very interesting

[rare arch]

The force fields in wave 5 is enough to fully remove tyuuka shield

So seia ends up dying to the missiles afterwards

[cosmic parrot]

no

wait 3*?

[rare arch]

Yeah still 3*

[cosmic parrot]

joever

[rare arch]

Tyuuka

[cosmic parrot]

i ue40ed her to tank the ball

[rare arch]

Could get her to 4* or ue30

Tyuuka shield just shouldn’t get removed by the force fields?

[cosmic parrot]

nope

her shield is big

well

since seia is neutral armour

shield hp deplets twice as fast

so rip

[cosmic parrot]

cant seia tank a force field

[rare arch]

It’s fine if aoba dies on wave 5?

[cosmic parrot]

at least

[cosmic parrot]

yes

[rare arch]

She could but the missiles right after

[cosmic parrot]

no without shield i mean

can ur seia survive a ball

cus u shield right after she gets hit

rio tyuuka

[rare arch]

I’m using Rio tyuuka on wave 5

[cosmic parrot]

yes

so u shield nuke

let her get hit by a ball

and shield right after

to reflect missile

unless she dies to ball

[rare arch]

She does need to be healed

I’m gonna test that out tmr

[cosmic parrot]

also do u even need seia for final part

got enough cost

think my seia died in my f99

[rare arch]

If I can at least double discount my uneru and syukari is that good enough?

[cosmic parrot]

ur spending that for the first groggy

uneru strat so idrk

though rly sounds like you dont rly need that cost down

[rare arch]

If I can do enough damage during first groggy then that might be doable

Might need to refer to that uneru f99 video on how much I should roughly be doing

[sage fractal]

I have no idea what the hell I'm doing, but hey, that was easy

[cosmic parrot]

my eye strain is getting worse

cant bald anymore today

oh shit theres hod rn

[errant crater]

oh i needed shields oh okay

and i thought i was missing something

oh also AOE

wait how your mika did more than hasumi?

[pseudo grove]

this is an ST fight with some mobclearing

similar to chesed

[errant crater]

ohhh

so i need a single and Aoe not just aoe

got it

btw is aoba necessary to win later floors?

i didn't build her yet

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-gif-17032995078397870109

if yes then I'm cooked

[pseudo grove]

yes

[steep jungle]

Do I UE30 Ui for peace of mind?

She's 4*

[pseudo grove]

which floor

[steep jungle]

100

[pseudo grove]

if she's dying it may be an external problem

[steep jungle]

Fair enough

[rare arch]

Somehow everyone survived wave 5

[cosmic parrot]

no

[rare arch]

Now it’s just about optimising the hell out of uneru

[languid oriole]

do it

[steep jungle]

#NeverAgain

[young cedar]

Anyone have the rotation sheet for f74?

[pseudo grove]

left right left left right

[peak mantle]

ggs

[cosmic parrot]

LETS GOOO

UE40 MIKA F106

[sage fractal]

Bald

[eager charm]

F49 cleared

Stress

[sage fractal]

Ye I tried doing this with Ako + Kotama, rather bald

Would be easier if you got a Yukari Swimsuit borrow tbh

[eager charm]

I couldn't figure out a rotation for that one

I just used a hw for reference

Would ue40 syukari worked fine?

[sage fractal]

Ye that should work

[pseudo grove]

do you have a cost reducer

[sage fractal]

I would probably bring a CDmg buffer instead of Serina + Mari

[pseudo grove]

you need serina to make up for the lack of aoba

[sage fractal]

Ya but if you run Shizuko Swimsuit, I don't think you need Mari

[eager charm]

Ako I guess but Seia needs some barriers to survive and another barrier to reflect a rocket and serina for reposition

Do I ignore all of that or what?

[sage fractal]

Oh, your Shizuko Swimsuit shield isn't enough?

If that's the case...rip I guess, you make do with what you have

[eager charm]

Yeah with the blue bomb it gets destroyed before it can reflect the rockets

[cosmic parrot]

cant rio either cus rio cant copy specials

[outer sentinel]

I was struggling HARD on f70 then I borrowed a t.tuuka and instantly got f74 done with 17 seconds remaining...

sadly, progress will be halted for now as kokona and s.seia aren't allowed in the venue anymore

[elfin abyss]

Didnt expect tsubaki+rio is enough for insane

Should've done it on day 2

[elfin abyss]

Oh, wrong room lol

[faint portal]

why snagi havent powercreep ako yet is the heal that good

[steep jungle]

Yes

Also you just can't powercreep someone with crit buffing

[pseudo grove]

snagi did powercreep ako

what does a random 100 clear have to do with that

below 110 either works

[cosmic parrot]

damn a 109 in asia

[rare arch]

Ue60 s hoshino

[languid oriole]

maldangel got overthrown

[pseudo grove]

this is beyond parody

[cosmic parrot]

what floor

[pseudo grove]

115

[cosmic parrot]

[spark epoch]

I really hope we can have more elegant solutions than Chihiro. (￣▽￣)

[pseudo grove]

they should make an emergency maintenance and give kotama's NS some scaling

[rare arch]

Bond gear

Believe in the bond gear

[pseudo grove]

actually

kotama doesn't even stack with magic

[spark epoch]

If only OG Shizuko has larger numbers on her ATK down.
OG Shizuko’s sub-skill is useful, unlike Chihiro.

[cosmic parrot]

whats chihiro for?

[pseudo grove]

her NS

and of course the CC power

[spark epoch]

Her basic skill is quite large attack down.

[cosmic parrot]

fair

[cosmic parrot]

for?

set?

[pseudo grove]

emotional support

[cosmic parrot]

lmao

wait chihiro atk down is aura?

[rare arch]

Targeted

[cosmic parrot]

why stack with msuzumi then

instead of kotama

[rare arch]

Msuzumi has evasion debuff

[cosmic parrot]

oh still more atk down

yea nvm

[rare arch]

That evasion debuff is kinda whatever

Since set has none to speak of

[spark epoch]

What a word of wisdom!
Of course CC means Crit Chance so it is indeed emotional support!

[pseudo grove]

exactly

and you don't even notice it because this run doesn't have dress ako or kokona

[faint portal]

can her basic just there when every big damage comes

[pseudo grove]

her ex animation only lasts 2s and the ex is completely useless

so I don't think they delay the NS very much

and it lasts longer than kotama's

[spark epoch]

So, if they give us a red orb popper with even larger ATK down and good sub-skill on the special slot, then we can do red F122-ish?

[pseudo grove]

we will still run out of damage most likely

[spark epoch]

But we still have D. Ako for another ~1.5x damage amplifier?
Ideally, replacing S. Nonomi with D. Ako and Yoshimi + Kazusa can do significantly more than this triple DPS.

Well, we lose S. Nonomi’s attack speed.

(I’m probably too fixated on double DPS strats.)

[pseudo grove]

well an AS sub on red chihiro would make up for it

[spark epoch]

Yeah, give us a non-overlapping offensive sub.

[cosmic parrot]

shanako basic but for atk down

[spark epoch]

Give S. Fubuki is bond gear.

[pseudo grove]

dress ako with def down is +44%

but I don't see how you rotate her with reasonable uptime without kokona

...serina time?

[spark epoch]

S. Fubuki deals more damage than M. Suzumi hahahahaha
Edit: Well, Suzumi is ATK-downed.

[spark epoch]

Give that hypothetical new unit a cost-down mechanism.
But yeah, cost is also a constraint.
I ran out of cost and had to refresh my last B. Yoshimi EX after the spear in my F111 run.

[pseudo grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym4tJ2_ay4s oh god they experimented with imine before they remembered chihiro had atk down

[sage fractal]

Oh shit, Kokona getting phased out for real now

Basically, what we need now is slightly more role compression to push further

So the idea is: a Special DPS who can pop red orbs, provides big Atk Down Basic and also has Atk Spd sub, something like that?

And if that's the case, what would the theoretical comp look like:
Hoshino Swimsuit, Ako Dress, Yoshimi Band, Kazusa Band, Natsu Band, Suzumi Magic, Reisa Magic, Michiru Dress, role compressed Special DPS, and?

[pseudo grove]

kikyo swim

[sage fractal]

...do we just bring back Kotama if this theoretical student exists?

Wait Kikyou Swimsuit is aura, right

[pseudo grove]

kotama doesn't stack with magic

hammock stacks with ako/xserina

[sage fractal]

So basically we're just missing that 1 special role compressed sauce

[spark epoch]

Kokona is probably still the way to go for <= F112.
Beyond F112 we have to work around a lot of things.

[sage fractal]

Mainly that you have to overcome the stupid HP bloat

[spark epoch]

Cost and survival are more limiting.

[sage fractal]

See, that role compressed theoretical student

Will have 3 cost EX

Then life becomes good

[uncut lodge]

s.nagi makes rotation easier, ako makes whatever you can dish out hit harder. they are not the same utility

ako's emergency heal also comes in handy at some difficult times

[pseudo grove]

wdym hit harder

[uncut lodge]

crit chance? :V

[pseudo grove]

crit chance for mika and nozomi

[rare arch]

@cosmic parrot i did it

[cosmic parrot]

ue50 uneru wtf

[rare arch]

I got that for hiero yellow torment

[sage fractal]

Baldshino extraordinare

Grats

[rare arch]

Greatest achievement so far

Thanks

[faint portal]

durg said f99 free 16 mins ago

[rare arch]

How about you shut

Don’t you dare discredit my achievement

[cosmic parrot]

shosh dying wave 1

[cosmic parrot]

https://youtu.be/emLHFQzLOnI first time looking at this shi

lmao gotta utilize syukari dps too

for ending

kisaki sweating with ue40

[pseudo grove]

#🗼final-restriction-release message

hmm

[cosmic parrot]

wait lmao i thought u sent the 106 one there

i used that

116 was quite different

[magic grail]

hello would like to ask?

for which main dps is much better to invest? i plan UE 60 for current Final restriction

[cosmic parrot]

syukari...and dont need ue60 😟

[magic grail]

o just UE 50 her

[rare arch]

Would ue40 not be enough?

[cosmic parrot]

even 3* enough below like 100

[rare arch]

If you buff her a bit then she can easily one shot the labourers

[magic grail]

for me i jusy want comfortable run, so i go for UE 50 instead

i think UE 30 is enough from guide video

[cosmic parrot]

what floor

[magic grail]

UE 100

[magic grail]

floor 100

[cosmic parrot]

3* enough man dont need to spend eligma

personally dont trust in investing more to cover skill issue

but your choice ig

though do you rly understand what giving syukari ue40+ earns you

if it was mika then yea defo ue40

else its like ue40ing ckotama for insane

[pseudo grove]

or like maxing out nonomi for hardcore chesed

they are a whale with 190k pyrox so whatever

[cosmic parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/live/oCarfjOJpYs

bruh literally first try

[rare arch]

Ssg pro

🛐

[cosmic parrot]

used up all my borrows for today for that