#🗼final-restriction-release

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rare arch
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The difference is large

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With your own hanako you don’t need to build your own oshig

harsh hound
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By building you mean just skills and gear or Onsen Shigure actually needs UE30 or UE40 to outperform Hanako?

rare arch
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Ue40

harsh hound
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Ah... That's a bit too much

rare arch
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Exactly

harsh hound
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I guess I can use Hanako all right

neon condor
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what exactly happens when chokmah is in a recovery state?

quiet jewel
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maxes out crit rate of strikers, increases incoming damage by 50% + another 25% per unstable flame stack

golden smelt
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Plus increased cost recovery for your 6 strikers

rare arch
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Recovery state is when chokmah’s reactor gauge keeps increasing throughout and won’t add another unstable flame stack if you bring it to 0 again

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The effects y’all mentioned are for the groggy which is different

cosmic parrot
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wait WHAT

rare arch
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Looks like oshig isn’t needed then?

cosmic parrot
rare arch
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What

quiet jewel
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mreisa is an aoe healer

rare arch
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Would oshig be needed when mreisa exists

pseudo grove
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tiph doesn't care about manju as much and you already bring another cdmg sub

pseudo grove
cosmic parrot
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ig different rot

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i didnt expect mreisa to heal THAT much though

languid oriole
cosmic parrot
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howd you even end up in this pos lol

cosmic parrot
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lmfao since mreisa distracts fire, you actually can shield aoba

rare arch
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Shielding aoba NatsuStareFront

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How useful is that

languid oriole
rare arch
cosmic parrot
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tanking all those fire on high floors

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even with ue50

rare arch
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Ue50 NatsuStareFront

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Do I really need to adapt a Rio coping tyuuka Strat in somehow

cosmic parrot
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if you want yes

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else you need to ue40 tyuuka

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or higher

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her shield needs to tank the big plasma ball

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and not break

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to reflect the missile

rare arch
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Force fields?

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The ones that inflict a recovery nerf

cosmic parrot
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ye

steady garden
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Is serika and b.airi worth to invest for the next FR boss?

pseudo grove
languid oriole
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and if you have bkazusa then use her alongside byoshimi

flint prawn
rugged zephyr
languid oriole
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holy bald

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i kneel

sudden orchid
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🛐

rare arch
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🛐

sly notch
rugged zephyr
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literally did this exact kill last time it appeared

flint prawn
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Neru not that great in team without Rio

sly notch
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Ah

spark epoch
languid oriole
humble edge
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Can someone point me an EASY clear for F97?

golden smelt
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Just copy a f99 hw

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Depending on who you have built

pseudo grove
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tower clears are easy to downscale

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so you can even copy a 110 clear if you have the units

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and you can have much less investment and make 5000 mistakes and still clear 97

uncut lodge
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ugh... red set again...

tawny dragon
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less than a month.

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Nevermind, it's the same

cosmic parrot
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yellow tiph after this

humble edge
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how big is this Meru?

languid oriole
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@rare arch put uneru in frr

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fast

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ima do it one last time

cedar yarrow
humble edge
cedar yarrow
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No sry Asia

humble edge
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thank anyway 🙂

buoyant zealot
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Chat i think i might be legitimately stupid, I've been pumping elephs into neru this entire time going whytf can people clear floor 100 w 3* neru while I cant even clear 74

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turns out I needed to trigger the anchor

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I did not know there was an anchor. I just thought that pillar thing was a random mechanism that I needed to stop chokmah from hitting

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chokmah nutz

languid oriole
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that the only time you alway to deal most of your damage

buoyant zealot
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😭 now i know

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thats like an hour of my life im not getting back

humble edge
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it is really hard to get the damn 3 stacks

uncut lodge
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yea, you need 1 main dot student+reijo, or 2 decent dot students

humble edge
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is reijo good even on yellow?

uncut lodge
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yea

buoyant zealot
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guys how big is the leap between 99 and 100? I can clear 99 with 20 seconds remaining is that 20 seconds finna be enough for me to get that floor 100 title lol

uncut lodge
humble edge
uncut lodge
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marina and reijo. or meru and rat

cosmic parrot
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then yes

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i gave up

sage fractal
uncut lodge
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yea, chok's missile barrage does double dmg on 100f, you better have some means to keep your more fragile students on the field

native ocean
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it's funny i missed kotama on Mika cuz she step away and still cleared faster than my prev attempt

buoyant zealot
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oooooooooooooof

uncut lodge
buoyant zealot
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survival is not the issue for me at all its the damage LOL

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Anyways I've ran out of patience I guess Im settling for 99

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What a depressing end to my climb this season :c

uncut lodge
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maybe change ako to rat for more dot debuff up time?

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dot dmg doesn't crit

buoyant zealot
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hmmmm

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HMMM DO I HAVE IT IN ME FOR ONE MORE TRY

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ugh might as well im this far in

uncut lodge
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don't have i.mari I assume?

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or kokona

buoyant zealot
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nah I have em

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my issue rn isnt survival its purely damage :/

uncut lodge
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kokona and i.mari are not only for survival. they can save you like a couple dozens of cost. so you can potentially squeeze more neru ex skills into the burst window

quiet veldt
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floor 99 hoshinozzz

clever ermine
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need an s.saori borrow

uncut lodge
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wait what? it's yellow armor chok this time...

cosmic parrot
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oh you were reacting to ssaori

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yea idk why

uncut lodge
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yea and next up is red set...

harsh hound
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Hello again

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I think doing floor 74 is pretty much impossible now

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But what may I need for floor 49?

clever ermine
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i need options 😭

pseudo grove
harsh hound
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Really?

pseudo grove
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you can lowkey ignore the mechanics

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and if you bring any dot and uneru it's free

humble edge
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Anyone on NA with a fat QMarina to borrow?

harsh hound
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I guess I can borrow a DoT character and use my own Uniform Neru?

clever ermine
pseudo grove
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there's a big bump from 49 to 50

harsh hound
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I may came back if I manage to clear floor 49 easily

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Maybe I can try floor 74

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But probably not AronaJoy

clever ermine
pseudo grove
clever ermine
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about f50, the things that shot bolts is breaking

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what should i do

pseudo grove
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bring cover

clever ermine
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i should cover those?

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what ta fah

quiet jewel
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you use cover to block the steel wheel from hitting the ballista

pseudo grove
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1h left to learn the basics

clever ermine
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🥀

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should i have cover for both?

cosmic parrot
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yes

pseudo grove
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the standard approach is holyshitno (armed) + skirino/shizuko/smimori

clever ermine
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awesome

harsh hound
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Oh well, floor 49 was rather easy

clever ermine
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yeah, now do f50

harsh hound
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I still don't get what's the point of Qipao Marina. But it worked out (?

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Or about the ballista

harsh hound
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Since I may need to know some of the mechanics to actually try it, I assume

pseudo grove
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replace himari with cover

harsh hound
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Cover?

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Uh... That's going to be a problem

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My only cover is probably Hoshino

clever blaze
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that was too close MikaNotLikeThis

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mika ex finish at 0.4sec

fallow rover
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yup, im gonna slacc this one. already did floor 100 before NinSleep

harsh hound
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Floor 74 got hands,

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I may need to actually find a Qipao Marina borrow for next time

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By the way, what is the easy way to clear Set floor 74? I may actually need to start trying up to that point by now

sage fractal
flint prawn
clever blaze
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there was auto floor 104 clear post somewhere

harsh hound
harsh hound
flint prawn
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its an effect you supposed to apply on boss with dot damage to overcome its massive damage resistance AkariJiii

harsh hound
harsh hound
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But I couldn't do anything for it, since I was forced to use my own Qipao Marina, if I had had a borrow one, probably I would have either clear or being real close to beat it

flint prawn
sage fractal
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Nah, it's only 50% Dmg Reduction on 50-74

harsh hound
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By the way, final phase loses all of its defense?

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Because on both 49 and 50. When I got to the final phase it didn't even do anything, it died before it could attack

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I think it just lost all of its resistence?

sage fractal
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80% Dmg Reduction is only a 75+ thing

flint prawn
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I don't know in depth mechanics behind damage resistance tbh, 0 flames = bad smolnihaha

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can copy paste from wiki if that helps

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but you dont need that knowledge, just cycle dot, buff her and fill that gauge

sage fractal
harsh hound
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Yeah, I agree, but I couldn't manage to keep my own DoT character alive

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The problem was that Marina was level 60 totally uninvested

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So she just died

flint prawn
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build her then, are you also saving mats for BA 2?

harsh hound
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I couldn't even get any borrow with that time

sage fractal
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That is the bigger problem: survival

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You actually need a plan to survive F74 before you think about damage

flint prawn
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sure you have lots of excessive red winter materials

harsh hound
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Imagine that in that screenshot I borrowed Swimsuit Kirino because all the other options sucked lol

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Probably

sage fractal
harsh hound
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What I do not have an excess is reports

sage fractal
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I'm almost out of reports because I chased that Hiero Tor

flint prawn
harsh hound
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I got 3 characters to 90 on Hyeronimus

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And I got a little poor

sage fractal
flint prawn
harsh hound
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But I guess I can invest on her since now the following bosses are pretty easy? I mean raid ones

sage fractal
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I am going to laugh at your Goz attempts

harsh hound
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Hope you do

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But I should have everything ready

flint prawn
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Chokman is over, no longer need to invest

sage fractal
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You got your repo shielder ready?

harsh hound
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It will probably maldy

harsh hound
sage fractal
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Oh wait you did ye

harsh hound
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Now she's even UE30 lol

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I'm probably going to need borrowing Swimsuit Izuna for that thing of marking the enemy

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Aside from that, I remember it was pretty straightforward right

harsh hound
clever blaze
# harsh hound May I ask who are those proper team members?

you can check in Nekuro's playlist
https://www.youtube.com/@nekuro-ba/playlists

flint prawn
harsh hound
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Oh well, I may invest for the future

sage fractal
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The other 5 FRRs are getting reran, no Yellow Chok in sight for another 6 months

harsh hound
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Wait, there was a second colour for Chokmah, right?

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Blue was it?

sage fractal
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You're not using Marina Qipao for Blue Chok

flint prawn
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"investing for future" is generally questionable

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not like it takes time to build

harsh hound
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It does cost resources, but I guess it will be better having something for each kind of bosses

sage fractal
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Like, you play most gacha games, in 2 years you'd have EXP material for everyone to be maxed, as well as the next 10 units

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Here, fat chance

harsh hound
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I just meant units to work on the different mechanics, since for DoT it seems I'm pretty bad so far

sage fractal
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You are not using DoT anywhere outside Chokmah afaik

harsh hound
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I don't really remember if there was a raid that also had DoT mechanic

sage fractal
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Unless you're prepping for some random JFD which is crazy work

harsh hound
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Nah, that usually is not the case, even Renge last Joint Fire Drill barely needed preparation

flint prawn
harsh hound
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Technically DoT, but barely noticeable

sage fractal
flint prawn
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also dots apparently kill evasion tanks in pvp

sage fractal
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Questionable investments for the short term

harsh hound
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It's never bad to be prepared

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But anyways

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I will first aim for the units required on raids, this always comes first

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Then I will check on the current Final Restriction Release boss, then on the ones I should have invested for not happening stuff like this again

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Like, had I had Qipao Marina at least decently invested, I would probably have been able to clear floor 74

sage fractal
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Doubt it, a raised Marina Qipao does not account for missing 41m damage

harsh hound
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Maybe, maybe not, I'm also not familiar with Chokmah

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Well, to be completely honest

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All Final Restriction Release bosses are pretty damn complex

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And on top of that have multiple phases + their battles require more students and they are considerably longer than all other stuff

rare arch
prime shard
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what will be the next one

uncut lodge
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red set

prime shard
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alr

rare arch
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Y’all ready for red set?

uncut lodge
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100f and sleep NinSleep

rare arch
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Imagine doing f100

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Couldn’t be me

uncut lodge
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lol I only managed 100f last time red set showed up

languid oriole
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take it or leave it

uncut lodge
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imho it's the most difficult frr by far

unreal shard
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Having b kazusa now, I wonder how high I can go now

pseudo grove
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not ready

rare arch
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Dear god

cosmic parrot
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the right yoshimi

rare arch
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The horror

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I think there are a few people with ue50 byoshimi I can borrow

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Was that a ghost ping?

pseudo grove
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hopefully this is good enough

unreal shard
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finally!

cosmic parrot
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🦖

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yellow tiph still a month away

lyric atlas
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Ah, Asia has one, noice

unreal shard
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I ran out of gifts though

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I could not Bond 50 jer

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🤔🤔🤔

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maybe next month

split lynx
neon condor
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when does final restriction open

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plana has to stop resting and start letting me fight the fury of set

regal arrow
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2 am utc, mean like 3 hour 30min left

neon condor
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awwwwww

dusk sail
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surely i can do f100 this time

odd pine
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bye chok also zako @wind copper

neon condor
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finally plana got out of resting

neon condor
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what do the obelisks do when fully charged?

wind copper
spark epoch
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Old team and I’ve made mistakes but, this is F106 cleared.

boreal surge
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Just beat F82 with this team +B. Yoshi borrow, any tips to improve this team?

cosmic parrot
boreal surge
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Yep

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Didn't know what to put there

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Also she's UE30, some extra stats to help

cosmic parrot
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snonomi eats shit by debuff

boreal surge
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I just accepted that

cosmic parrot
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im also getting rekt by no kok

boreal surge
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I thought of adding NY. Haruka instead of Kisaki

cosmic parrot
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though i have bkazoos

boreal surge
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Same Sub

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Less Crit and Crit Damage Res

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Theoretically more damage ig

cosmic parrot
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dont think set needs those

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1 more cost too

boreal surge
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Idk im throwing everything at the wall thinking of how to improve the team

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I didn't say those were good ideas ReisaStare

cosmic parrot
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im also eating shit with no kok

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no dhina

boreal surge
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Oof

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Unironically the best thing my Nonomi is doing

cosmic parrot
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think i used chiaki for orb popper

boreal surge
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Is Buffing the other students attack speed lmao

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I use D. Hina

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Thought of adding Saori instead

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2 less Cost and also Guaranteed Crits Basic

cosmic parrot
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wtf nah

boreal surge
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I think im just going crazy again

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wouldn't be the first time

lyric atlas
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no borrow 74 for the first time

rare arch
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Holy kaiju

cyan mason
regal arrow
languid oriole
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man i need another byoshimi

regal arrow
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i only borrow byoshimi on f99, f74 below still clear able without yoshimi...

languid oriole
lyric atlas
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Kuroko works

neon condor
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Do the obelisks do something when charged?

rare arch
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The ones that lower your attack by 70%

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tried f74 but only halfway there in damage after groggy ended

neon condor
rare arch
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There’s a lightning attack that targets uncharged obelisks

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If it happens to hit your students then it cuts your students damage by 70%

neon condor
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

cosmic parrot
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where dako

neon condor
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no wonder i was doing worse when i didnt use ex skills

rare arch
neon condor
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ty for telling me

cosmic parrot
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xerina

rare arch
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Nope

cosmic parrot
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thats too many sustain too

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is bikeroko needed

rare arch
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Idk

stiff gazelle
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Pulling skikyou worth, first time f99

rare arch
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Think she died halfway through?

cosmic parrot
stiff gazelle
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yea lol

cosmic parrot
stiff gazelle
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but I sacced early

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missing attack books was too annoying

rare arch
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Who else can I even use over croco then

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I can’t afford to build bairi because trinity mats

lyric atlas
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Damn, no Kuroko

rare arch
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Yeah

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I think I should just remove croco

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She’s the only one dying ironically enough

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I tried again and left with 29m hp when I timed out

neon condor
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any way to stop the obelisks from being struck?

rare arch
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No

pseudo grove
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just don't heal them

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but you probably don't want to do that

neon condor
quiet jewel
rare arch
languid oriole
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all the dps on the right

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thatll make all your support taking all the damage debuff

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while the dps can shoot fos without worry

regal rune
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My fave strat is to have SHosh be the only one getting hit by pillar eventually

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That way DAko can actually hit a chunk with her basic

rare arch
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Basically anyone without blue or purple armor dies

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Other than boshi

neon condor
languid oriole
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it not the point that you have to move them during the game

lime copper
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49 finish Comfy. Hopefully Floor 55 is possible

languid oriole
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thatll make all your dps stay on the right side while all your supports stay on the left

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taking all the damage debuff

lunar elk
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feels good to no longer be a kokonalet, massive clear time difference on f99 KokonaThumbsUp
I mean sure we have ue60 now and I got to farm b.airi from ue30 -> ue40, but I highly doubt those were the reasons why the time was cut so short
(the rotation needs fine tuning, there were two deaths towards the end)

neon condor
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ok it worked ty

rare arch
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Smh I can’t even get close

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Could I perhaps use regular ako instead of iwak

crude vapor
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Does swimsuit kirino and kotama ex skill stack?

rare arch
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f64 done because f74 to difficlt

crude vapor
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Ok

cosmic parrot
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though skirino isnt rly used here

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not rly suitable

rare arch
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It seems like I can’t go further than f64

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Goddamn this boss sucks

crude vapor
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Floor 49

lyric atlas
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red set still sucks

rare arch
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Set sucks in general

languid oriole
rare arch
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I think ima take my f64 clear and sleep

languid oriole
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1 is instant while the other is lingering aoe buff

rare arch
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Both stack

languid oriole
lyric atlas
cosmic parrot
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blue set was very chill

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red set 🚮

rare arch
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Can we like remove red set from the game

cosmic parrot
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gotta sell byosh somehow

lunar elk
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remove both set from the game AtsukoCool
and put both my SakurakoFumo NonomiFumo out of a job

rare arch
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If I can clear f74 blue set then it’s chill

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If not then it’s a garbage boss

spark epoch
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What?! Kazusa died. NinShock

elfin flare
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99f done on mobile while @ outside

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b.natsu p goated ngl

cosmic parrot
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gimme her

elfin flare
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shouldve pulled the milk chugger

spark epoch
languid oriole
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also hosh stealing shield

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:hosh:

spark epoch
pseudo grove
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don't teach kanon how to red set

cosmic parrot
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omeganin

pseudo grove
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I think 108 may be too much pressure for that poor 3* eimi

spark epoch
viral warren
cosmic parrot
river axle
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F55 clear
Didn't know UE30 S.Hina could do this much dmg

lyric atlas
languid oriole
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me when section 3 forced you to have aslest bkazusa to do

sage fractal
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My problem right now is survival, I need more levels and better gear

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This is my F55 clear, pretty sure if I get more levels on everyone I can go a few floors higher. Dunno about F74 though

cosmic parrot
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time to do

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jeez i got like 8 byosh borrows

languid oriole
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so i wont build her

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red fos is soo much more demanding than blue

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in blue you have CHANCE to get the meta student for the raid everyv 6 months (fest) while red you have to wait about a year and hope you have the fiancial to actually get

sage fractal
languid oriole
rare arch
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Set is just a bs boss anyway

sage fractal
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Ye but Set justifies me raising 2 of my waifus

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I can't hate him because of that

languid oriole
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aslest blue set is more friendly

cosmic parrot
languid oriole
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best students you could get every 6 months

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while red just

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wait a year

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and hope you have financial to actually get

rare arch
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Set is too p2w

languid oriole
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i need that 0 credit reward NozomiMoney

cosmic parrot
languid oriole
signal belfry
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Not really for very specific students, but more what kinds of student, but what kinda students are reccomended against FOS? I know students who have either a healing or buffing (especially any kind of damage buffs) as their EX are & students who directly aren't (maybe unless it's just for a debuff, especially a defense 1), but what else?

signal belfry
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What?

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I'm legit just asking for help about what kinda students are reccomended for FOS

languid oriole
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auto attackers

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it literally said in the fos description

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80% reduce damage from ex skill

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only student with ex skill that buff their base dps (atk speed, crit, etc) will work here

hollow anchor
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Something like serika

languid oriole
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red armour

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if you dont have byoshimi

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youre cooked

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as you dont even use borrow

hollow anchor
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Does boss do red atk before f50?

signal belfry
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Is his defense high enough to be worth defense debuffing with like 1 student who does that?

languid oriole
signal belfry
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Ok

languid oriole
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considering you cant get through section 2 anyway

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i guess serika is a good option

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only probably your only option

signal belfry
signal belfry
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Since last rerun

languid oriole
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you can bring dhina for the sole purpose of popping the red orb

signal belfry
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Don't have Dress Hina yet

languid oriole
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but do that when the red orb aoe is covering your main dps

languid oriole
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bring anyone who have targetted ex skill

sage fractal
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You probably can just F24 and give up ngl

languid oriole
sage fractal
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There's no Red Orb on F24

languid oriole
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i breathe on section 1 too fast to realize

sage fractal
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You need:

  • invested AA students
  • probably more than 1 DPS
  • someone to pop Red Orb on F25+
  • 2+ healers, one AoE one ST
  • buffers
signal belfry
languid oriole
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because fos attacks hurt

signal belfry
sage fractal
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There's no blocking, dodging or redirecting them

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And you have 30s less

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And this thing's HP is bloated to hell

signal belfry
rare arch
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This boss is agony

sage fractal
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Oh no worries, the mechanics are: dodge Atk Down, don't die

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Healers are a must btw, or you will eat 70% Atk Down

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And you will autolose

languid oriole
rare arch
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Without healers, set will just murder your students

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There’s no punchline

signal belfry
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Given he nukes often, are attack debuffing students worth it Here?

sage fractal
rare arch
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But uh

languid oriole
#

but it wouldnt matter

rare arch
#

Good luck with that

#

Croco dies

#

Ibuki dies

sage fractal
languid oriole
pseudo grove
#

kotama dies

#

oh wait

rare arch
#

Mina dies

#

Kotama chill

languid oriole
#

crack?

sage fractal
rare arch
#

Lvl 1 on kotama basic is enough

#

Upgrading it just increases its damage

hollow anchor
sage fractal
#

He'll have to first go through F24, if he even can

hollow anchor
#

Specials can die in Set

rare arch
#

Yeah

hollow anchor
signal belfry
rare arch
#

Byoshimi borrow would help

#

But uh

hollow anchor
languid oriole
rare arch
#

How you gonna get a borrow

languid oriole
signal belfry
rare arch
#

Good luck even clearing f24

hollow anchor
#

I got to f50 and slacc

languid oriole
#

same

#

worst raid ever

#

even blue fos is better

sage fractal
# rare arch How you gonna get a borrow

He has 2 methods:

  1. Brute force with EX DPS. But he'll have to overcome 80% EX dmg reduction
  2. Use whatever AA he had. I remember in my noob days, I cleared because I had both Nonomi Swimsuit and Ako Dress
sage fractal
#

I don't know, let him cook

rare arch
#

Id like to see that happen

languid oriole
#

how is he gonna even bruteforce with ex dps

sage fractal
#

We just sit here and watch

rare arch
#

True

signal belfry
#

Oh...

#

Auto attack

#

Remembered it right after I asked that

sage fractal
#

Insane, so that's how bro does it

#

I'm rewatching the JP FRR player's video

#

Bro uses Izumi New Year to repo Ako Dress out of debuff zone

#

Damn, that is some tech

pseudo grove
#

that is some tech indeed

#

acope again deals literally no damage

cosmic parrot
#

hey i used tyuuka for the same tech

#

:proudge:

languid oriole
cosmic parrot
#

red set is shitge anyway

rare arch
#

how do you use tyuuka

sage fractal
#

I mean, she's just there for shielding + repo

#

So that you survive better

rare arch
#

yeah but when do i use it

sage fractal
#

Copium choice

cosmic parrot
languid oriole
#

im rich

sage fractal
#

I mean, you can make it work in Red too, it's not like she has 0 utility

languid oriole
spark epoch
sage fractal
#

It's just that you have better options

rare arch
#

cost regen is kind of a big deal as it turns out

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using sfoob over iwak is a choice

sage fractal
#

Cost recovery is so broken for high difficulty raids

#

Makes such a difference

pseudo grove
#

borrow eimi and use your own bkaz

spark epoch
spark epoch
sage fractal
#

Prolly just crit rolls

signal belfry
#

Yikes, I might he cooked after all, cuz i have Band Yoshimi atm she has very little investment

spark epoch
rare arch
#

oh cool the red dot on frr menu is gone

#

i dont need to bald f65 then

signal belfry
#

Since there is no red or up to F24, is Swimsuit Tsurugi decent, specificly for section 1? (even if so, she will deffinetly get replaced in section 2)

#

Wait no nvm

#

Forgot a few

rare arch
#

what

signal belfry
#

FOS has normal attack in section, so i have normal Serika in it until the type changes

#

& i somehow almost forgot to include her

rare arch
#

cool

signal belfry
#

Idk if Pajamas Yuuka is decent, but i included to both have a tank & be the 1 i have that does the most damage to the orb (to get rid of it ASAP) when it becomes a thing (won't use her EX before that)

rare arch
#

there are no orbs in section 1

#

boss has 700 def only

signal belfry
#

Ik, so hence why i said i won't use her EX yet

#

It's more for her other skills

rare arch
#

tank doesnt really matter since everyone gets hit

signal belfry
#

Ok, then i'll see who else i'll use

#

Probably not Ibuki because mine has her attack buff higher then normal Kotama's but it's only those near her, while Kotama is wherever

rare arch
#

both do the same thing anyway

#

atk buff and atk down on boss

signal belfry
#

I was considering dress Aru, but normal Ako can already take the slot for both crit & crit damage

#

They're both single target though

#

So ig i can use 1 on Serika & the other on Band Yoshimi

rare arch
#

what even is your team

#

ss

signal belfry
#

Regulae Serika, Band Yoshimi, Band Kazusa, Swimsuit Hoshino, Dress Aru, empty (wanna fill that 1 more slot), regular Hanae (though i might replace her with Regular Chinatsu), Regular Fuuka (though i might replace her), Regular Kotama & Ragular Ako

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Keep in mind however

#

This is section 1

#

So i will add someone to take care of the orb when that becomes a thing

signal belfry
rare arch
#

no cost regen?

signal belfry
#

Oh yeah good point there

rare arch
#

kisaki doesnt count

signal belfry
#

I do have all my special slots taken though

signal belfry
#

Swimsuit Hoshino already does it when her EX is active

rare arch
#

cost refund

signal belfry
#

Cuz of her Sub Skill

#

Aah

rare arch
#

not cost regen

signal belfry
#

I need to check, but I think i don't have any strikers for that

rare arch
#

there are none

#

its in the special slot

#

also d aru and ako in the same team Natsus

signal belfry
#

1 buffs Serika

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The other buffs band Yoshimi

#

Cuz they're both self buffers

rare arch
#

hmm

#

no iwak or hot wheels?

signal belfry
#

Who ya mean by hot wheels?

rare arch
#

himari

signal belfry
#

Also i do have Swimsuit Shiroko shiroko, but then I gotta replace either Ako or Kotama

rare arch
#

replace ako

signal belfry
#

Oooh i see

#

Swimsuit Shiroko is 1 of those where i should just not use her EX at all is she?

rare arch
#

youd use her to pop orbs

signal belfry
#

I see

#

Does the Orb have an armor type?

#

Cuz i don't remember

rare arch
#

yes ofc

signal belfry
#

Ok, the would someone who's an explosive attack type be better for dealing with the orb?

rare arch
#

who do you have

signal belfry
#

Gonna send some screenshots

rare arch
#

hmmmm

signal belfry
#

i was considering band Natsu so i can replace & of my special healers with a striker healer, but she only does so near her, which is less ideal then healing anywhere

rare arch
#

team positioning

#

also where bnatsu

signal belfry
#

I wanna add 1 more though, even if just as filler

signal belfry
rare arch
#

where bnatsu

#

smh im blind

signal belfry
#

going in lvl order from highest to lowest

#

picture 6 very bottom right

cosmic parrot
#

nvm

rare arch
#

bnatsu is really good

signal belfry
#

she's quite underbuild for now though

#

so i wanna build her more 1st

#

So i think that for now, i'll have 1 filler & invest in her some more, then add her

acoustic jolt
#

no hw no bakzusa bnatsu bairi snonomi nagisashiroko

sage fractal
#

Hina Dress is basically Nonomi Swimsuit's replacement, but no Kazusa Band is wow

rare arch
#

Boshi usage ssg I kneel

languid oriole
#

"i might he cooked"

signal belfry
#

Which is partially cuz I only got her last rerun

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Cuz back when the original run was around, i didn't play this game at the time and didn't even know it existed back then

#

Which is part cuz BA isn't available at all in Belgium (without a VPN)

#

Which is also i can imagine Belgian BA player being pretty rare

rugged zephyr
signal belfry
#

When FOS is in Groggy, does he lose his EX skill damage reduction until his groggy & regain it when Groggy ends?

cosmic parrot
#

no

signal belfry
#

Aah

rugged zephyr
pseudo grove
#

clown moment

uncut lodge
#

now I know why few people use b.airi for red set. she doesn't do nearly as many crits so kokonut cost discount timing is all outta whack 🤔

languid oriole
rugged zephyr
#

im trying to see if i can do 108-109 aswell

#

its good to see my current setup is possible

signal belfry
#

Dayum, I really need to invest in some of my involved students like Band Yoshimi & Band Kazusa more, cuz the fact that their low amount of investment is from only having them last rerun is 1 thing, but while i did beat F24, i had less then 10 seconds left

pseudo grove
#

aaaargh

signal belfry
#

Somehow i did F25 faster then F24

pseudo grove
#

kokona alt when

fleet kindle
signal belfry
#

15 health to slow on F26

#

Ig my run is over

#

Good run? For a someone with the leveled students being only lvl 70? Deffinetly not

#

But i'd say it wasn't that bad either

fleet kindle
#

Do u run aa dps?

signal belfry
#

Yes

#

But some are really underinvested

#

Like Band Yoshimi & Band Kazusa

#

But with those 2

#

I only got them since last rerun

fleet kindle
#

Then u should have no problem even at f24

signal belfry
#

My run ended with my last win being F25

#

Literally no-one in my team is even a 5 star yet though

#

that's legit my best possible team atm

#

pajamas Yuuka is just filler

#

cuz i had no-one better

fleet kindle
#

Why u using hanae

#

Use hanako instead

signal belfry
#

ST heal

#

on the pillars

fleet kindle
#

Atsuko

signal belfry
#

my Atsuko is lvl 1

#

so completely useless for me rn

#

actually all of my striker healers need to level up a bit more

signal belfry
#

i forgot

#

she's lvl 66

#

It's Band Airi who's lvl 1 rn

#

Yeah ok, seems like my filler student is literally the only 1 i have with a generally decent build

#

oh wellArisShrug

#

still better then last light armor FOS run atleast

#

last time this 1 was around, i didn't even get through section 1

quiet jewel
#

is f75 significantly harder than f74? doesn't seem like there's a significant jump in stats, just the thunder vortex skill

cosmic parrot
quiet jewel
#

i mean if your aoe healer is overinvested then should be little diff

flint prawn
quiet jewel
#

I was comparing to chok and tiph who both basically double their ATK going from 74 to 75

#

but if your healer is strong enough to take the new attack, I don't think there should be significant difference

flint prawn
quiet jewel
#

ah I see

dusk sail
#

f100 done

signal belfry
#

Replaced my filler student with Band Natsu for being a striker healers (already had her since last event, but she was to far behind to be of usefull until now) & now that I have an AOE healer as a striker, i replaced regular Fuuka with regular Ako (already have Dress Aru included but 1 buffs Band Yoshimi & the other regular Serika)

#

She's 1 i got very recently though, like last rerun, so my prediction on this is that she only helps a little at best

#

Just as i thought

#

A little bit

#

9 seconds left

#

Cuz besides her lvl, her only upgrades are her 4th star & all skills exept her EX being lvl 3 (her EX is only lvl 1 atm)

signal belfry
#

Oh i see

#

I already forgot she wasn't in the original run of that event lmao😆 😅

dusk sail
#

bro preordered the band natsu banner 😭

signal belfry
#

But unlike the others, she's not limited, so she's still obtainable off-banner

#

But i basicly just mean i got her on banner

dusk sail
signal belfry
#

Also my run ended again

#

With how much i currently invested in her

#

She was useful for me

#

By only 1 additional floor

cyan mason
halcyon moss
pseudo grove
spark epoch
rare arch
#

Chokmah is the exception who gets the attack at f75

lost bolt
#

funny triple band f100

regal arrow
#

yeay now finally my unit can survive on f100KazusaSparkle

signal belfry
#

Hmmmm, i was considering bringing in band Airi, but i've got a feeling that 2 star Band Airi wouldn't be as good as 4 star regular Serika cuz no sub skill, atleast not before FOS' attack type changes

rare arch
#

Bairi is decent here as sub dps

#

Also to buff your byoshimi through sugar rush

#

But not much

flint prawn
flint prawn
#

Also there are no tiphareth stats on schael.db for some reason, where do you even check them?

rare arch
#

Tiphareth gets coloured atk at f50

#

But shielding s hanako lets her work there

#

Could work up to f99 I think?

flint prawn
#

There were videos of f99 hanako I believe, but most couldn't recreate

rare arch
#

It’s very difficult

#

F100 onwards she just dies

flint prawn
#

Since even Saori no longer works solo at 100+, hanako would fail damage check even if she lived

flint prawn
#

Still a mystery why its JP only, while released on global a while ago KoyukiStare

rare arch
#

Maybe they’re waiting for tiphareth yellow to release?

elfin flare
#

100f w/ the full band

spark epoch
#

I finally cleared F109!
@pseudo grove Thank you for yesterday’s advice about borrowing S. Eimi instead. Now I can start tackling F110.

ruby fjord
#

Not much but first time floor 74 on Set AtsukoThumbup

unreal shard
#

this team just dies on stage 99💀

flint prawn
regal arrow
ruby fjord
#

Just bring a shielder / O.Shigure yeah, you already have D.Hina as orb popper

#

Ehh, Kazusa is much better than Nagisa imo

unreal shard
#

does kaede work

#

3* kaede

lone girder
#

just time your heal usage better

flint prawn
unreal shard
#

I don't have her bond item to T2

flint prawn
uncut lodge
#

that's a 3 or 4* airi I assume

ruby fjord
#

No, UE1

uncut lodge
#

how are the skills/

ruby fjord
#

Airi has really sub par investment, like T5 hat or something lol and she died kinda a minute or so before the end cause cat got the rollcake instead of her

uncut lodge
#

my ue30 b.airi easily doubles that dmg

ruby fjord
#

Basi 7 iirc and can't recall EX tbh, I really don't have any other unit to use there really, but she helps a bit. Just waiting for Fest to get D.Hina, really

#

Here's floor 49, probably a more fair comparison of how my Airi performs

uncut lodge
#

using b.airi makes b.yoshi dps more stable in my experience. the only problem is she doesn't do nearly as many crits as kuroko, so kokonut's cost discount is all over the place..

ruby fjord
#

Yeah, I'll ditch B.Airi once I have D.Hina for sure lol not worth giving her good equipments max out her basic when D.Hina is just going to be better

flint prawn
#

You might want to keep (built) airi and ditch bosh instead

ruby fjord
#

Oh about that, I'm actually planning to build Atsuko too lmao

#

So for future floors I'd probably go with: Kuroko, D.Hina, S.Hoshino, B.Yoshimi, Atsuko, Kokona - Hanako, Iwak, Cat, Nagisa?

uncut lodge
#

imagine having atsuko CitizenSob

ruby fjord
#

I have been too lazy with her ngl ChiakiXD

flint prawn
ruby fjord
#

Imagine

#

But yeah, floor 74 is enough for me rn, I'd rather wait for Fest and see what I get

dusk sail
#

ok what demonic crap do yall do to clear f101+

pseudo grove
dusk sail
#

i dont understand

#

why is my damage so buns

#

my yoshimi aint doing the 85m+ damage i see on everyone's clears

spark epoch
uncut lodge
# dusk sail why is my damage so buns

b.yoshi dmg can fluctuate +-10mil depends on how much she wants to crit. but lacking this much could be your didn't align your buffs with b.yoshi's ns properly

dusk sail
#

im deadass so confused

#

no fucking way i am not upkeeping buffs

pseudo grove
#

is byosh within hoshino's range?

dusk sail
#

yes

uncut lodge
#

o.shigure has crit dmg aura, kaede has max hp aura

pseudo grove
#

shouldn't make that big of a difference

uncut lodge
#

or maybe you accidentally canceled a couple b.yoshi ns during the more hectic parts of the fight?

dusk sail
#

still feels so low

pseudo grove
#

how often do you cast byosh ex

dusk sail
#

really

#

i shield your dumbass and you still die

dusk sail
#

enough

#

for sure

pseudo grove
#

you may be casting it too often

dusk sail
#

why is your damage so lowwwwwwwww

#

wtf am i doing wrong

dusk sail
#

did they buff set or what

#

i literally tried the same tl joe used a year ago with the same exact team and i am consistently like 10-20m damage behind

rare arch
dusk sail
#

yes

rare arch
#

Popping the orbs on your dps

dusk sail
#

i know how to follow TLs

rare arch
#

Then either your students are missing some required investments or you’re just unlucky?

dusk sail
#

guess ive been consistently unlucky for the last 3 hours

rare arch
dusk sail
#

i have better investments than hw

rare arch
#

Could I refer to the hw you’re using?

dusk sail
rare arch
#

The guide is using sshizuko instead of kaede

dusk sail
#

yeah and?

rare arch
#

Idk if that’s somehow affecting your damage by that much

#

I can see your d ako is debuffed

signal belfry
# rare arch Bairi is decent here as sub dps

Yeah but... 2 star band Airi? She doesn't have her sub skill yet & her sugar rush does nothing without that skill, so her EX is essentially just an explosive effectiveness, while 4 star regular Serika gets both am Attack damage & attack speed buff from her EX (the latter being because of her sub skill).

When FOS his attack is explosive? 2 star Band Airi is better then 4 star regular Serika yes cuz of Serika having light armor. But before that changes, so when his attack type is normal, meaning that that your armor type at that point doesn't matter at all?

rare arch
#

I wouldn’t know much about that

#

Can’t believe you didn’t farm bairi elephs

signal belfry
#

I only invested a little on her so far, cuz i only got her since last rerun

flint prawn
dusk sail
rare arch
#

either that or your d ako being debuffed is making a huge difference?

#

@dusk sail how much atk does your byoshimi borrow have

dusk sail
#

idkkkkkkk

#

and i am not opening the game again

#

im done

flint prawn
rare arch
#

Either that was a troll byoshimi or d ako debuffed meant huge dmg loss

dusk sail
#

wdym troll byoshimi 😭

rare arch
#

You can filter the students by their attack

dusk sail
#

im getting ragebaited

rare arch
#

In the sort settings

#

Besides all the terrain matchups there’s a setting to filter by atk

dusk sail
#

i knowwwwww

#

this is like explaining multiplication to a math major

rare arch
#

You said you didn’t know the attack

dusk sail
#

yeah?

quiet jewel
#

somehow doubt that's the problem

#

dako getting debuffed is also pretty standard

#

sshiz for kaede shouldn't be a big difference; you still have the atk sub from kotama

#

ur just missing the 40% cdmg from sshiz sub but I don't think that makes up the 10m ur missing

rare arch
#

looks like a 24m hp difference?

spark epoch
quiet jewel
#

i mean i guess just pray that your borrow is the problem and find a better byosh

#

if your execution is perfect and your invests are better, then it's just mald the rest of the way

sage fractal
#

Yea, the 10m Yoshimi Band diff is probably Shizuko Swimsuit + unoptimal rotation

#

You also need to cover up for DPS loss from Ako Dress

flint prawn
#

Kaede 4 cost vs shiz 3 cost might be breaking rotation completely if they try to just copy 1:1 NozomiThink

sage fractal
#

That too

#

It's probably that + missing Shigure Hot Spring CDmg sub + Shizuko Swimsuit basic + Ako Dress getting debuffed

#

Like, each individual thing doesn't matter that much, but all of them stack

quiet jewel
#

the hw uses hanako so it's not an oshig diff

sage fractal
#

Inb4 it's crit mald for Kokona basic proc AronaJoy

rare arch
#

Crit malding for kokona basic doesn’t seem like it’d make or break that much

#

Might just be a combination of rotation, borrow dps being weaker, and d ako debuffed

sage fractal
#

And Kokona's basic is +1 stamp, so it actually matters

flint prawn
#

You bring Nonomi and Kokona procs on her internal cooldown

spark epoch
sage fractal
#

So I'm not sure if there's some similar strict timings where you need Kokona basic to proc so that Kokona sub procs so that you cost down cycle faster

spark epoch
regal arrow
steep jungle
#

At what Investment does B. Airi need to have in order for me to not use my UE50 Hypermaxed Kuroko for Red Set?

steep jungle
steep jungle
#

No

#

Just UE50 and Bond 41

faint portal
steep jungle
#

What Investments will make B. Airi make her brtter thab Kutoko

#

As her basic admittedly hits hard

#

Wait...

#

Basic synergizes with B. Kazoo

#

Needs UE40+ to get more atk

#

I have no B. Kazoo NinDead

#

GG me, Kuroko it is

pseudo grove
#

huh?

#

normally there are not enough slots to run both bkaz and airi/terror

pseudo grove
#

a max terror is comparable with a 4* bairi excluding the kokona effect

#

1 attempt at f100 speedrun
1:56 on the clock

#

sub 2:30 possible

pseudo grove
pseudo grove
golden smelt
#

F70 shoshlet bkazlet kokonalet HibikiCheer

golden smelt
#

What's with the trex emote

unreal shard
#

godzilla pro I knewl

quiet jewel
#

is there a good heuristic for how often you should recast byosh? like at 2 sugar or 1 sugar?

lime copper
#

That was close

native ocean
#

Mostly 1 sugar when she reload

river axle
pseudo grove
#

the ex is way too expensive and too much of a timewaste to recast it for sugar

quiet jewel
dull eagle
#

Finally managed to get past 74

pseudo grove
quiet jewel
#

f100 speedrunning hoshinoblindstare

pseudo grove
#

I'm done
this was fun

languid oriole
#

im slacking bye

#

this boss is shit

#

it mechanic is shit

#

whoever designed this boss need to go fuck themself

rare arch
#

what floor

rare arch
#

f65 done somehow

crisp shale
#

Alright F99 Cleared much faster than the vid guide

rare arch
#

Never touching red set again

crisp shale
#

Meanwhile I checked f124 There are some gaming chair people

cosmic parrot
#

lmaooo f99 cleared