🗼final-restriction-release

[signal belfry]

F45 especially is gonna get the most interesting for me. Cuz there, all the students i use are either at the same lvl or technicly underlevel, but only by 1

[rare arch]

Never thought levels on a boss mattered

[sage fractal]

I mean, dmg reduction on your students, so it does matter

But when you're an endgame person, every boss is level 90 or higher so...lmao

[pseudo grove]

every boss except insane GA

[sage fractal]

Soon it will be triple Torment GA and then you can say "every boss"

[hollow anchor]

If every GA will have tor as max and min to get plat is triple tor

I'll do tor

[spark pagoda]

Can I borrow a Marina Qipao? Or Meru?

[languid oriole]

yea

but only 1

[spark pagoda]

Yes that's enough

[spark pagoda]

Friend code

[cosmic parrot]

he doesnt have one

he meant you could only borrow one per stage

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296175909291950167/1435619916878188664/shurocoke.gif

[languid oriole]

wdym

[cosmic parrot]

o

[languid oriole]

i use her in fos

how could i not have her

anyway

AYVDYNHR

you dont have to worry about waiting

i have auto accept on

[rare arch]

What a generous man

Chokmah is ending in a week

[sage fractal]

I mean, 95% of people either did it on Week 1 or will do it on the final week

[rare arch]

Reasonable

I’m just glad I did it week 1

Imagine trying to bald f100 chokmah and gaebruh

[solid vessel]

Next frr is red set right?

[rare arch]

Correct

[spark wren]

yeah

[rare arch]

Might just skip that one

[solid vessel]

[languid oriole]

ima do f50 and dip

[rare arch]

The issue is more so that I don’t have anything that works

Aside from the eepy

[languid oriole]

soo gud i have a ue50 byoshimi whel frien

[signal belfry]

Bruh every single time Chokmah uses his fireballs, it's aimed to C Hibiki, no matter where i put her

Does he have personal beef with her or smth?

[sage fractal]

Well yes, that's the whole point

You should check what that fireball skill does, it's in the description

[signal belfry]

I'll do so after this attempt

aah

C Hibiki is apparently always the furthest away to him

I forgot that part

Also I know the Ballista can only be used twice per battle, but after 2 shots, are they still needed for anything or can i ignore them getting destroyed?

[sage fractal]

You can just let them get destroyed

Not that Chokmah F25-49 can destroy it

[languid oriole]

you can cancel the balls by just using the ballista lmao

even if it do destroy by you already activated

chokmah get groggy by mysterious invisble force anyway

[signal belfry]

Regular Hoshino is a piercing attack type with combat power S

Is she a solid pick to replace cheerleader Hibiki with?

[flint prawn]

Hoshino is a tank mind you

[signal belfry]

Yeah? I know that much

[languid oriole]

just replace most of your dot

you dont need that much anyway

2 is good if 1 isnt enough

anymore is overkill

[flint prawn]

Are you planning to spam hoshino ex for damage or whats going on?

Cause you replacing dot dps (dunno how built your c.hibiki is) for tank

[signal belfry]

Really, my only dots used util now at in the run Q Marina, Meru & Reijo (the last 1 for enhancing) besides C Hibiki

[languid oriole]

when you use reijo

before or after marina ex skill

[signal belfry]

After Marina

[languid oriole]

you using it wrong

[signal belfry]

Ueaj

[languid oriole]

you suppose to use it before using marina ex skill

[signal belfry]

Aah ok

[flint prawn]

normally 1 dot is enough, but since you are working with underbuilt units who knows. If gauge burns fast enough you can start removing them

c.hibiki probably doesnt do ton of damage as its red

[signal belfry]

Gonna try that 1 1st them

Cuz i didn't know that part

[languid oriole]

reijo ex skill is applying a special effect on the target

and under that effect

chill and poison debuff will get enhance

aka

having the special effect from reijo ex skill and using the dot

the dot will get enhance

the game doesnt explain good enough so you have to rely on schaledb

[signal belfry]

Put regular Iori in my team

Of this doesn't work

Then F36 is where my run ends

[flint prawn]

Iori should be good tbh, but use her only during groggy

You do little to no damage with non-dot attacks outside of groggy (sorry if you already figured it)

[signal belfry]

Oooh yeah i think i get

Using dress aru on swimsuit Iori unless it's in groggy & during groggy, i think I gotta use dress Aru on Iori?

[flint prawn]

Whos your main dps there? S.Hiyori should be better than buff target imo

[signal belfry]

My DPS focused stident here are swimsuit Hiyori & regular Iori

[flint prawn]

should be able to buff both as d.aru buff is long

prepare lots of energy before using ballista and spam them all i guess

don't know if your timings allow it

[signal belfry]

Yeah nah i think i'm to underworld for F36

Cuz bot even having Iori in my team is working

In fact, it felt like she was actually doing worse then C Hibiki for me

this is how she's currently build

Also my Meru kept dying before phase 2 at this point

Where Chokmah started to get to difficult for me was no to far off from my highest leveled students in character lvl

They're all 69 or 70

So this boss was only 9 or 10 below them

Pretty decent for a raid imo

[rare arch]

I dunno if you are using hoshino alr

But she might be alright at tanking chokmah auto attacks

Remember that chokmah uses his fireball spam after using missile rain

[quiet jewel]

are there any ideas who msuzumi will replace in red/blue set teams (or will she not?)

[pseudo grove]

she will not

maybe on blue in place of sakurako
she just barely survives on paper but if bike survives it should be fine

on red I don't see how you slot bike and still deal meaningful damage

[signal belfry]

Hoshino moves forward when using her EX though & this is 1 fight where someone walking up to him like that kinda feels uncomfortable for the strat

[rare arch]

You can just

Not use her ex skill

[signal belfry]

Isn't an EX like

Usually the most important skill in any student's skillset though

[rare arch]

Sometimes you just don’t use their ex skill the entire battle

[sage fractal]

Sometimes the most valuable thing in a student's kit is not the EX

[rare arch]

It’s the utility they offer

[sage fractal]

I have been using Niya a lot since I got her. Never for the EX. It's always her cost recovery sub

[rare arch]

An example

[sage fractal]

In fact, I have not had a scenario where I used her EX because of the Def Down

[rare arch]

Another one is battle hoshino

[sage fractal]

And depending on your skill cycle and team, sometimes you just have an empty slot and you want someone who does a lot of AA damage as filler

[rare arch]

Sometimes you use her because of her almost permanent defense debuff on any enemy she locks onto

[sage fractal]

You don't want to ever use their EX or anything, you just want them as fillers

[rare arch]

You can’t have too many fillers though

[sage fractal]

Ye, sometimes you end up clogging your EX skill bar

[signal belfry]

Usually when i have a filler, i only have 1

[sage fractal]

Teambuilding is much more than just picking students whose EX are useful

For FRR I sometimes have up to 3 students whose EX are useless

Because anyone I can put in does not give as much value as cycling the other 6-7 faster

[rare arch]

It doesn’t apply to just frr

It applies anywhere really

[sage fractal]

It's all about "does adding this student's EX provide value to my skill cycle rotation, or does it just slow me down"

And that's why sometimes people run 3 student teams instead of full 6

[rare arch]

If it slows your rotation, simply don’t use it

[sage fractal]

The other 3 slow you down so much that you just rather run 3 students

[rare arch]

But also you have at most 2 fillers

[signal belfry]

Aah

[rare arch]

If you have 3 fillers then the third one slows your rotation significantly

[signal belfry]

I usually have full team cuz of the somewhat faster cost recovery

[sage fractal]

There's also some dumb strats for low levels where you want low level students to die after the first 10-20 seconds so you start spamming borrow DPS EX

[rare arch]

Think there was an example with last srkr GA

[sage fractal]

Usually the cost you use to cycle back offsets the cost recovery gain you get

[rare arch]

Where you want a lvl 1 camping hare

[sage fractal]

Aru Dress

[rare arch]

Or that

[sage fractal]

Or my level 1 Sensei clear, that's also an example

I bring 3 level 1 students for initial cost recovery (needed to kill on time), then I want them to retreat before I overfill cost bar

They need to live long enough, but also not too long

But ye, teambuilding and strats are far more dynamic than just "fill up full team, use everyone's EX"

[rare arch]

There are many situations where you would rather let a student ex skill unused for the entire battle than to use it

There’s also the aspect of team positioning

Where you put your students in the team builder can be very important

Like chokmah

[sage fractal]

First Chokmah AA always hits Pos 3

[rare arch]

After the first auto attack, it’s whoever is closest to chokmah

[sage fractal]

And if you don't run Boshi, your tank being too close to another student might get them caught in the AoE

Another one would be Seia, her basic procs to the nearest student, so you deliberately put her on one end to guarantee it procs on the intended target

And, funny enough, depending on your student arrangement, you sometimes can cover every student on P2 with 1 cover

And sometimes you can't. Depends on student selection and arrangement

[rare arch]

That’s with boshi on pos 1 or pos 6 if I remember correctly

[sage fractal]

Nah, it's more on who's beside Boshi and what range they are

But once you start doing Boshi repo, she's not near anyone at all

TL;DR: there's all these little details you pay attention to that can make or break a team's strategy. That's why sometimes game can be difficult

[signal belfry]

Eh fair ig

Also now that i think of it

There is 1 thing where a fillers EX can be useful here

While every other students their EX is focused on Chokmah

The 1 that is filler can use it to trigger the ballistas

Without wasting the others their attack opportunity l

[rare arch]

Having a filler student just to push the button is usually undesirable

Ideally you use a button presser who isn’t your main dot or dps and isn’t there just to press the button

You use someone who fulfils another niche

[signal belfry]

Eh, i need Qipao Marina & Meru for the the DOT, Swimsuit Hiyori for my DPS & Reijo to enhance the poison DOT, so if i do gotta go with someone for pressing the button, I might let it atleast a piercing DPS with terrain combat power of atleast B, but with the cost usage as low as possible

[rare arch]

The button has 1 hp

It doesn’t matter who uses it as long as their ex skill does damage

[signal belfry]

Yeah but the attack type & terrain combat power is for their auto attacking against Chokmah

[rare arch]

If you’re using a button pusher, they’re not intended to do damage

Also reijo can be used as a button pusher

[signal belfry]

Does her EX their effects last that long or smth?

[rare arch]

15 seconds

[signal belfry]

That's sounds decently long for a cycle yeah

[sage fractal]

That's where I use Niya's EX: I mainly bring her for cost recovery sub, but she also activates Ballista

[rare arch]

You want to do as much damage as possible during groggy

But you also want to apply dot to chokmah during groggy since reactor gauge increases

At lower floors it’s not really that big of a deal done your dot dps should shred the reactor gauge easily so reijo ex can be redirected to push the button

[signal belfry]

I would use Swimsuit Shiroko as the button presser cuz of the faster cost recovery (or was it only cost reduction. Don't fully remember) at the beggining, but my team makes me need 2 covers (the only ones I have ate Shimiko & regular Shizuko) & i already have regular Ayane for healing & regular Kotama for the attack, so i have no slots left for Swimsuit Shiroko

[signal belfry]

I'm at F36 with my strongest students being lvl 70 though

& F36 is a lvl 60 floor

[rare arch]

Should still be enough

Even at higher floors, using reijo to push the button is still viable

https://youtu.be/q0VSnTXtWtA?si=ddHrdlD1VUz1OKAe

This run shows that

[signal belfry]

Can try that

[sage fractal]

Actually false. I tried it with my level 1 Hiyori, she only does half damage to the tube

[rare arch]

Wait what

Run that by me one more time

[sage fractal]

No, the DoT application is throughout the fight, evenly across the entire combat period

[sage fractal]

My level 1 Hiyori did half damage to the tube

I can try it again and ss it to you

[rare arch]

Sure

But at what floor

[sage fractal]

F49

If you use someone who does DoT (debuff or not), it actually bugs out the Ballista to shoot twice consecutively

I triggered that with Juri

[sage fractal]

Shiroko Swimsuit has both a one-time cost reduction at the start of the fight and cost recovery sub

[rare arch]

There are other cost reducers

[sage fractal]

Well, Kisaki or Himari is ideal, but having a button pusher is nice

Cost recovery button pusher is more utility than you think

[rare arch]

Iwak is just very useful all around

[sage fractal]

She's so broken

She has 5 utilities packed into 1

[signal belfry]

I don't remember from the top of my head, but i don't think i got any other students that increase cost recovery at all besides her

[rare arch]

It’s limited to a few students

Iwak kisaki himari niya and nyharuka are a few

[sage fractal]

That's almost all of them

If not all

[rare arch]

That’s all of them

Cost recovery is really useful all around

[rare arch]

What a cursed image

Also that white ex outline remaining on screen

[sage fractal]

So yea, there still is a min req to activate Ballista

It's not high, but it's def beyond a level 1 student

Also, my Marina Qipao is overqualified for this

[rare arch]

Also what’s with the double ballista activation

[sage fractal]

One tick of debuff damage and Chokmah gains one Unstable Flame

[sage fractal]

If you use Juri, the damage over time activates it a second time lmao

[rare arch]

Does it do anything though

[signal belfry]

Aah Kisaki i have too

[sage fractal]

It extends your groggy time

And you lose 2nd Ballista usage

[signal belfry]

Just didn't remember i did

[sage fractal]

...my dude, you have Kisaki and you're not using her at all

[signal belfry]

I already have 2 students to buff Swimsuit Hiyori with

[sage fractal]

And? Kisaki provides a unique buff

[signal belfry]

One of which buffs the attack of 2 more piercing attackers while at it

[sage fractal]

3 buffs on her is better than a second DPS

[signal belfry]

The EX damage

[rare arch]

Yeah

[signal belfry]

I don't really have space for special students

[rare arch]

Well

What even is your team now

[sage fractal]

If you can rearrange your students to require 1 cover in P2, you won't need the 2nd cover

The trick is this: you want back range students on both ends

If you have mid range students on both ends, you probably cannot cover everyone with 1 cover

[signal belfry]

Quipao Marina, Meru, Dress, Swimsuit Hiyori, regular Iori, Reijo, Shimiko, Shizuko, regular Ayane & regular Kotama

[sage fractal]

If you have a repo student to get everyone close together, that also solves your cover problem

[rare arch]

Dress aru?

[sage fractal]

If you have Koharu, you can remove Iori, put her, remove Ayane and put Kisaki

[signal belfry]

Yeah cuz piercing striker & buffs smth about crit, but I don't remember what

[sage fractal]

Or Kokona. Or Mari Idol

[signal belfry]

Don't have her

[signal belfry]

Don't have either of those either

[rare arch]

Not having koharu is a bit

Did you not clear total assault raids at all?

[languid oriole]

prob bc he havent play for aslest 3 months

and he cant even clear hardcore considering he doesnt want to borrow

[sage fractal]

He clears most Hardcores with 3+ teams

The one I know he didn't was Geb

[rare arch]

Not a chance he could clear gaebruh

[languid oriole]

yea no shit sherlock

[rare arch]

But also

[languid oriole]

he doesnt borrow

[rare arch]

Regarding the ballista button

It might be a very rough guess

[languid oriole]

and at his level he doesnt build special dps

[rare arch]

But it might be at 500 hp

And that hp seems to be constant throughout the floors

[signal belfry]

I can maybe move them with Minori & she buffa attack speed (iirc), but she's a mystic attacker, which chokmah is resistant against

[sage fractal]

Ye I can tell the req isn't high at all, but level 1 students too weak to even do 500 dmg

[rare arch]

Minori doesn’t reposition

She’s the revolutionary

[sage fractal]

He's talking about Mimori

[rare arch]

I can kinda tell

[sage fractal]

Mimori and Minori are two different students btw, be very careful about that

Also, you don't need every student to be Piercing

[rare arch]

Also you have to understand that attack types of your buffers don’t matter even a little bit

[sage fractal]

That is not how you teambuild

[signal belfry]

I actually started since last January, though i did take a break for a few months when i hit a roadblock at V3 C3 Hieronymous when i was lvl 2

[languid oriole]

you skip story didnt you

[rare arch]

Mimori could work

[languid oriole]

there no shot you havent do do any mission and be at that point

[signal belfry]

Eeeh, lately iirc, sure i still can't beat extreme yet, but don't don't really need 3 teams anymore

[sage fractal]

If you're not 1 team clearing when you have Kisaki and stuff, you are doing it wrong

Even without a borrow, btw

[signal belfry]

Did get decently far for someone with my highest leveled students being lvl 70 thougj

[rare arch]

Do you even know what gaebruh is

[signal belfry]

Yeah, had a type there

[signal belfry]

I don't have them all piercing

Just most of them

For strikers atleast

[rare arch]

You don’t consider attack types of students who won’t be doing much damage

[sage fractal]

Re: outside of main and sub DPS, attack type matters so little. Sure, it plays a part, but when it's merely an extra 100k damage when you can enable an extra 5-10m on your main DPS, there's no doubt which is better

[signal belfry]

No

I went through it properly

[sage fractal]

You are greeding 100k damage and throwing away 5m damage with what you're doing

[signal belfry]

Though i didn't play any other modes until i hit that wall, cuz the stories a my most favorite aspect of the game

[rare arch]

Anyone who plays a supporting role like healing and buffing students don’t care about attack type

[signal belfry]

So really i only started doing mission at all after i couldn't continue anymore

[sage fractal]

You can see, even my DoT barely does stuff, I only need her to do enough to empty the gauge frequently enough. It doesn't matter, you always go all-in on main DPS

[languid oriole]

you should do them both from the beginning

[rare arch]

Now

[rare arch]

You should definitely clear total assaults

[languid oriole]

honestly you wouldve be lv 90 rn if you grind mission

[signal belfry]

Eeeeh, I kinda disagree there

[rare arch]

Even doing hardcore on raids is sufficient

[sage fractal]

There's nothing to agree or disagree, I've cleared HC with my own 1 team without borrows before. You just do not understand teambuilding, plain and simple

[rare arch]

You must also recognise that different bosses have different mechanics

[sage fractal]

I was a noob at one point who didn't know borrowing exists

[rare arch]

There’s no other bosses like chokmah

[signal belfry]

Geburah? A boss where the heater is the main gimmick & strikers students do much less damage, while special attackers do more

[rare arch]

Yes

[sage fractal]

Bro I'm 6 months in and I'm 2 days away from level 90, you really enjoy taking it slow 👀

Nothing against it btw, play how you want to, but...you really are slow

[signal belfry]

My break when I hit a wall at V3 C3 was quite long though. A few months to be more precised

[rare arch]

Fair enough

[sage fractal]

Also, I already slowed down my progress by clearing all missions in Concentrated only

Really fast, optimized levelling gets you to level 90 in 4-5 months

[signal belfry]

If i actually didn't, my run would've ended at F25 instead of F36

[signal belfry]

Ik

[sage fractal]

If you actually did, your run would not end at F36

So you're half baked

[rare arch]

You have to pay attention to raid mechanics and how to fulfil them

Cannot go all in on one mechanic but ignore the rest

[signal belfry]

Yeah.. so? I'm more on the casual side with this game ngl

[signal belfry]

I heavely disagree there because my my highest leveled students are only lvl 70

[rare arch]

You can go further with those students

Not even talking about assistants

[signal belfry]

Ik. I do have a tendency to do that early, but just like it happened, my team did improve the further i got

[rare arch]

Do you have any atk buffers on the striker slot

[sage fractal]

With your roster as-is, you def can go further. Whether you know how to do so or not is another question.

And no shame in being casual. Just no point in denying your skill issue when it straight up is a skill issue thing

[signal belfry]

Not really. Only a crit buffer, 2 dots, 1 that enhances 1 of the 2 dps, cuz I don't remember having any other attack buffers that don't overwrite Kotama

[rare arch]

From the looks of things

Only c hare, ibuki and s hoshino actually buff attack of strikers

Ignoring s hoshino

Do you have ibuki

[signal belfry]

Eh fair, i admit i have a skill issue on some areas. Like my strongest 1 is mid-battle strats, but my weakest is pre battle strats

[signal belfry]

Yes I do

[rare arch]

Use her over iori

Remove kotama with kisaki

[signal belfry]

At 3 stars

[signal belfry]

Can try that yeah

Will try it after lunch

[signal belfry]

Gonna try it now & if this doesn't work, then my used students are underbuild in some areas other then character lvl

Cuz i usually build anything on anyone whenever i can

[rare arch]

Don’t just blindly invest in students yeah

[sage fractal]

Gears and skill levels might be limiting you too

But those are def more expensive to invest than just levels

[signal belfry]

Eeeh, I kinda do exept for Xmas Hanae, cuz as she currently is in anything other students, she still has objectively the worst EX in the game & it's not even close. So bad even she virtually has none.

Like genuinely speaking: How is someone this bad even a 3 star by default?

[rare arch]

That’s just how it is sometimes

[signal belfry]

Also i have 1 or 2 maxed skills rn, both on regular Saori. Her NS & maybe PS

[rare arch]

Don’t just randomly invest in skills if you don’t need to

[signal belfry]

I kinda already mostly did from the beginning all the way up to this day, cuz i'm just like "ok cool, a student getting a little stronger"

(Gonna try to not go off-topic for to long)

[rare arch]

It’s more significant if that student actually can make use of it

Some students have pretty much useless skills

You focus on skills that provide a benefit for the content you are clearing

[signal belfry]

I kinda focus on all content areas though

Especially all the game modes

[rare arch]

Missions don’t require heavy investment in skills

[signal belfry]

Hell, i'm sorta trying to 100% the game game modes-wise

Or in a better choice of words

As close as possible to that

[rare arch]

You do know there’s 13 different raid bosses

[signal belfry]

How many i didn't, but by as close as possible, i partially mean whatever is around at the moment

[rare arch]

You focus on investing in a student based on who benefits you currently for that boss

[languid oriole]

auto and fuck off

[rare arch]

Area 25:

[languid oriole]

yea until that point

[signal belfry]

Eh, personally i'm not fond of the auto EX.

[languid oriole]

i meant auto the entire mission

[signal belfry]

Even less fond of it ngl

[rare arch]

You wouldn’t want to invest in a unit to deal with fury of set but you’re struggling with chokmah and go broke

It’s priorities

[signal belfry]

Cuz with playing manually, you can sometimes end up ending the battle with less damage & more students still in action then on auto

[signal belfry]

Then again though, then i am prepared for future fury of set raids

[sage fractal]

Ye it's a matter of priorities. In an ideal world, we can work on raising many students simultaneously, but this is a game with resource scarcity. You are forced to pick and prioritize

[languid oriole]

no i dont think you will

[rare arch]

There are some students who offer greater value for your resources

[languid oriole]

considering the main gimmick on fos

[rare arch]

Mainly buffers like kisaki

[languid oriole]

you

i need your kiki for peroro

[rare arch]

[languid oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296175909291950167/1435619916878188664/shurocoke.gif

[signal belfry]

Ok not just fos, really a bit for every boss in future sessions

[languid oriole]

not really

[rare arch]

It’s about priorities

[languid oriole]

you can bruteforce hardcore on other bosses

fos however

hand damage

[rare arch]

Fury of set is absolute cancer

[languid oriole]

basically geburah except the debuff apply on ex skill damage instead of striker students

fos damage isnt that much of a threat until you go higher up

[sage fractal]

The problem is, when you go for higher difficulties, "a bit for every boss" doesn't work. Every step up in difficulty demands more than just a bit

[languid oriole]

every difficulty is a spike

[sage fractal]

You have to start to pick which ones you'll focus on and which ones you'll drop, unfortunately

[rare arch]

Every boss demands very different approaches

[signal belfry]

Yeah i know. Fos is the 1 boss where auto attack > attacking EX skills, maaaybe exept for 1 or 2 debuffs

[languid oriole]

there more

https://tenor.com/view/theres-more-gif-23888098

[rare arch]

Goz

[signal belfry]

I know. Healers on the pillars

[rare arch]

The amount of healing required in set is almost disgusting

[languid oriole]

you still cant escape the 70% damage debuff the lightling give

[sage fractal]

Goz should be easy, I have Yuuka Track and Kayoko NY, Ins should be guaranteed, but that's off topic for this channel

[rare arch]

Unless you use tyuuka

[languid oriole]

you have to know about your student positioning

[sage fractal]

On higher floors, you need a lot of healing. Actually insane amounts of healing and/or shielding

And the "imma hyperbuff 1-2 DPS" strategy is still better

[rare arch]

The healing required on higher floors is so disgusting you’re gonna hate it

[languid oriole]

all the support on the left and let the lightning strike the left pillar

all the dps and sub dps on the right

and make sure they dont get hit by lightning

[signal belfry]

Ngl though, the first time I fought fos was the V1 C3 version

That was also the 1st time i did an FRR styled battle at all

[languid oriole]

chokmah only have 1 threating attack that occasionally happen

so single target healer work well

[rare arch]

1 minute

[languid oriole]

but for fos

[rare arch]

Even ako works as healing in chokmah

[languid oriole]

ah fuck you have to improvise using healing on fos

otherwise your students will be dead before you can realize it

[rare arch]

With the amount of healing you do

Kurokage gonna get banished to the shadow realm

[languid oriole]

krkg trained us for fos

except the fact that pssy ignore shield

[rare arch]

Tiphareth red core beam also ignores 50% of shield effects

[languid oriole]

get it?

[rare arch]

Not sure what that means exactly

[languid oriole]

cuz krkg is a cat

[languid oriole]

force to move students

you cant tank it

prob

[rare arch]

Also the microwave beam does 1400% to “allies”

That refers to tiphareth and it’s labourers I’m sure right?

[languid oriole]

crush their own balls

[signal belfry]

Gonna try replacing Iori with Ibuki. All 4 of her skills are only lvl 2 though

[rare arch]

You only need her ex skill at lvl 5

Don’t think you need to worry about it for now

But her basic skill is useful here

[signal belfry]

My Kisaki hee skill levels from left to right are 3, 7, 5 & 5

[rare arch]

Get her ex skill to lvl 5 already man

[signal belfry]

Can't rn

[rare arch]

Start farming her materials

Her value is insanely good in almost every raid

[signal belfry]

Besides shops, where was the best mode to farm that again?

[rare arch]

Farm what

[signal belfry]

Growth material build Kisaki's EX

[rare arch]

The artifacts are in jfd shop

I hope you’ve been doing it consistently this whole time

As for the Blu-rays

Bounty

Specifically overpass

[signal belfry]

I've mainly been spending my JFD tokens on elephs

[languid oriole]

you have some dot you can replace

[rare arch]

Also you can buy a few upgrade mats for kisaki from bounty shop

[languid oriole]

mainly ssaori bc this raid is yellow

[rare arch]

He alr removed it

[languid oriole]

ok

[signal belfry]

Ibuki worked really well

[rare arch]

She’s really good here

Especially on later floors

That atk down on her basic skill is super helpful in making your team not explode to the missile rain

Also I find it interesting that chokmah can stack burn dot from fireballs and ground slam on the same target

[languid oriole]

on fos croko is a must have unless you want to sweat whenever set do lightning storm attack

or the giant ball of doom

[rare arch]

A must?

[languid oriole]

you could go without her

[rare arch]

How she gonna survive tho

[languid oriole]

she can handle it

[signal belfry]

I really underestimated this airhead kid ngl

[golden smelt]

Honestly I'm not sure but jp players somehow made it

[signal belfry]

Thought she would be worse then that cuz of her attack type

[golden smelt]

I'm still surprised

[rare arch]

I guess that’s the shiroko difference

[languid oriole]

who tf care about her attack type

[rare arch]

Reminder that attack type doesn’t matter

Even when chokmah is blue colour, where ibuki does more damage due to attack type, she still won’t do much damage

[signal belfry]

Depends where & who though, cuz taking damage your armor resists to cuz the damage in half

[rare arch]

Yeah but attack type on supports don’t matter

[languid oriole]

it doesnt fucking matter for support and tank

unless

UNLESS

their skill is influenced by enemy defense type

such as nagisa

[rare arch]

Pyuuka

Chihiro

[languid oriole]

only able to reduce defense of red armour enemies

[pseudo grove]

ako dress

[languid oriole]

i dont have her so ill skip that

[rare arch]

What’s the context

[signal belfry]

Ngl if attack type, or armor type for most special students doesn't matter, then i don't see why they aren't just a normal type in that area

[pseudo grove]

support whose attack color matters a ton

[rare arch]

True

[languid oriole]

and that pretty much the only one

if i miss any prob bc i dont use them or i dont have them and theyre limited

[rare arch]

It doesn’t really matter either way

Normal attack and armor type is reserved for enemies

[languid oriole]

there also 1 more armour type

literally called "strong"

[rare arch]

Structure

[languid oriole]

and theyre only being use for cover

[signal belfry]

Then they could as well just have been normal types in whatever area doesn't matter & it would simplify it imo

[rare arch]

Takes half damage from all sources

I dunno what goes on behind the scenes

[faint portal]

how would you know

[rare arch]

But I don’t care about changes that changes something insignificant

[rare arch]

I did math

[languid oriole]

"resist" to literally anything

[faint portal]

oh

i do remember it said resist but i do remember it said block

[rare arch]

The only cover who doesn’t have structure type is battle hoshino

[rare arch]

It just does damage to cover

[faint portal]

it said block

like in pvp

[rare arch]

Que?

Idk much about PvP

Don’t care either

Things happen

[languid oriole]

i wouldve win if iori stay below kuroko

but her dumbass being going up front and get knock out by their kuroko

[rare arch]

Boshi having heavy armor type on her cover instead of structure doesn’t affect much in chokmah

[rare arch]

Chokmah gets blue attack in f75 onwards and it resists those attacks regardless

[languid oriole]

fancy "block" being blue

meanwhile on srkr

[rare arch]

Nah I’d win

[languid oriole]

fancy "block" being orange

[faint portal]

wth

[rare arch]

What

[faint portal]

srkr ball block is orange?

[languid oriole]

yes

[rare arch]

It has yellow attack in insane and torment

[languid oriole]

you can slightly see the block being orange

[faint portal]

hmm

[rare arch]

It do be like that

[pseudo grove]

shirokuro lunatic please have +500% piercing eff please please please

[rare arch]

No

Tiphareth would’ve been a good candidate for yellow eff buff

[languid oriole]

what is this peroro level of powerup

[pseudo grove]

even more selfharm

[rare arch]

But they made tiphareth yellow armor

[languid oriole]

[rare arch]

And the funny begins

The important change is that the microwave beam can disintegrate the labourers on yellow

[languid oriole]

1 less rio usage

[rare arch]

The missile reflecting and sticky bomb detonation wouldn’t mean much

[languid oriole]

horray

[rare arch]

For 3 cost you can disintegrate labourers on one side while redirecting the sticky bomb away from your team

Huge value right there

Imagine how much stupider yellow tiphareth gets if they actually added yellow eff buff

[languid oriole]

mark my words

next frr boss gonna have purple attack

and red/purple armour

[rare arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1340287886305660998/image0.gif

Tiphareth at f100 has about as much killing power as set

[languid oriole]

aslest it isnt as horrid

[rare arch]

Yeah

Not like all his attacks will send your students to the shadow realm

It’s just his auto attacks

Which you can mitigate using shields

Which you should be doing anyway to counter yellow core missiles

[languid oriole]

fos has red attack with red/blue armour

chokmah have blue attack with blue/yellow armour

and tiph have yellow attack with purple/yellow armour

are you noticing a pattern here

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5T-maJakAEE6Kx.gif

[rare arch]

I kinda do

Purple tiphareth is very restrictive on team building I think

But I’ve got the units for that so I don’t find it frustrating

[languid oriole]

meanwhile me on jp tiph

fuck

[rare arch]

I don’t get how the twins can run off to to their doom

[languid oriole]

basically
no shield
no rio
no buff
no main dps
no repo
no heal(maybe hanako)

[rare arch]

What not having tyuuka does to a man

[languid oriole]

nah dude

i dont even have AOBA

bc i dont play jp during the highlander event

[rare arch]

Where’s your captain mine

[languid oriole]

why else do you think i mald on insane greg

no mine on both account

[rare arch]

Mine spook during seia banner might have made me appreciate Gregorius more

She can work on tiphareth but uh

Baldshino

[languid oriole]

:hosh:

[rare arch]

Crazy that izuna is mentioned as a repositioner for core skills even though she isn’t a tank

[languid oriole]

if you dont use hosh then maybe

[rare arch]

Why would you use boshi tho

[languid oriole]

shosh

not bosh

[rare arch]

Oh ye

Get everyone wet with her ex skill

[languid oriole]

the shield stealer

lore accurate masked swimsuit gang

[rare arch]

When would wetting everyone with s hoshino not be a good idea

[languid oriole]

for people who use tyuuka

it a bullet that they have to invediably bite

[signal belfry]

Ok, the lvl 60 floors done

Now onto the lvl 65 ones

Which is F40-44

[sage fractal]

The thing to remember: yes attack type can lead your supports to do 100k extra damage in 5 minutes, but buffing your main DPS to do 30 million more far outweighs the 100k extra damage from correct color type on supports. It is negligible in the face of hyperbuffing main DPS

And this is a principle you're just going to have to remember for...pretty much all endgame/high difficulty content

[rare arch]

Stacking only a single attack type against a boss because of “potential dps increase” is just a recipe for disaster

There are very few cases where you can stack multiple strikers with the same attack type on high end raids

[signal belfry]

Bruh, 2 fire from his back & swimsuit Hiyori already lost a quarter of her HP

[sage fractal]

Yea, FRR bosses ramp up in attack power really quickly

And also, due to the boss' level increase, you lose a significant amount of dmg reduction

[signal belfry]

That's only a lvl 65 floor

[rare arch]

you positioned her on pos 3

[signal belfry]

On my 1st attempt, Meru was dead

[languid oriole]

you can replace her with a tank

reijo and marina already do the job well

[sage fractal]

The boss' level don't matter beyond determining how much damage reduction there is (1 level difference = 2% dmg reduction, goes both ways). You'll soon find out that bosses can randomly have 30k attack or more

[rare arch]

Fury of set

[sage fractal]

I did say you'll eventually need a tank because of Chokmah's AA, but it's been so long you've probably forgotten

[signal belfry]

Regular Yuuka maybe?

[sage fractal]

At this floor, doesn't matter, unless you need the tank to have some utility

Like Boshi or Yuuka Track, they provide utility beyond just being a tank

[rare arch]

Tyuuka usage is a bit iffy

[sage fractal]

Yuuka is nice in that she only has 3 cost EX, so if you need some low cost to cycle back, she's an option

[sage fractal]

My Seia too squishy, dies to double missile without shielding

[rare arch]

Oh yeah

Just don’t try to run away from the missiles

[signal belfry]

The shield Meru got from someone else was gona gone in 1 literally 1 hit

[rare arch]

Kisaki

Missile rain hurts

[languid oriole]

meanwhile ill have to work with this

[rare arch]

Imagine if you spook wakamo during fest

[languid oriole]

noise complaints from neighbors haha

[rare arch]

What if the flow of calamity pursues you and gives you the fox

[languid oriole]

i get

the fox

game get

noise complaint and my resources that i been saved up since the beginning of my journey

yes

i saved up alot of stuffs since i started playing

for wakamo

[rare arch]

Yellow tiphareth is the most interesting frr fight I’ll do eventually

It all depends on my luck

Whether I get the shasumi

[sage fractal]

Oh that's not a luck thing. I am ready to brick my acc for her

She is probably my most high prio target

[languid oriole]

yea considering your name is like that

[rare arch]

Not my riskiest pulls though

My riskiest was definitely for tyuuka

[signal belfry]

Oooh yeah

My regular Yuuka is a 5 star as well

[languid oriole]

150 pulls for sui

[rare arch]

She should be able to tank

[languid oriole]

only for the game to give me shinata the next 10 pulls

and then another sui for the 10 pulls after that

[rare arch]

Hey wait a minute

I rolled for sui and no use still

That’s a calculated risk right there

[languid oriole]

i though you dont have her

[rare arch]

I gambled on her banner

[languid oriole]

and still have enough for kiki

wow

[signal belfry]

Which would be better here, 5 stars 1 blue star ue1 regular Yuuka, or 4 stars regular Hoshino?

[rare arch]

Doesn’t really matter

They just soak up hits from chokmah

[languid oriole]

hoshino does matter in tac tho

bc she tank kuroko attacks for breakfast

[rare arch]

We’re talking about frr

[languid oriole]

if my iori down and opponent's hosh still alive

i have to surrender

[signal belfry]

Hmmm

Yuuka has her barrier for 20 seconds

[languid oriole]

it doesnt matter

[signal belfry]

Hoshino's end shortly after the EX ends

[languid oriole]

she not gonna die anyway

[rare arch]

Only attack you worry about is missile rain

[languid oriole]

and hoshino def is too high for chokmah to make a DENT on her

[rare arch]

Unless your tank is in the way of the fireballs you should be good

[signal belfry]

Oh yeah, tanks do have a high defense stat iirc

[languid oriole]

there 2 type of tank

def tank or evasive tank

[rare arch]

Evasion tanks and defense tanks

Evasion tanks don’t have very high defense

[languid oriole]

but they can make people who use mika cry

[signal belfry]

Hmmm, pajamas Yuuka is a tank that debuff enemy defense, but i know Chokmah's defense isn't that high to begin with

[sage fractal]

Well, Yuuka BG gives Def

Any decently built tank works, none of them are gonna die

[rare arch]

Boss won’t get debuffer

[sage fractal]

Yuuka Pajama's benefit is that she has 2 cost EX, cheap to cycle through

[rare arch]

Pyuuka only works on red enemies

[sage fractal]

No, the Def Down exists

Just lower on non-Red

Which is why nobody uses her on non-Red

[rare arch]

Oh

But uh

Boss doesn’t have that high of a defense

[languid oriole]

it does

[sage fractal]

Well, it's 2 cost, cheap to cycle if you really need

[rare arch]

That works

[languid oriole]

but red armour enemies will reduce defense more

[rare arch]

Also button pusher

[signal belfry]

Reisa seems also solid. Tank, doesn't move to much, piercing attack, terrain combat power B & self heal in basic skill

[rare arch]

She’s a tank

She’s not meant to do damage

[signal belfry]

Still though

[rare arch]

Self healing sounds cool

[signal belfry]

She has all the things i'm comfortable with

Exept the lvl of her skills

They're all lvl 2

[rare arch]

Doesn’t really matter

Also why at lvl 2

[signal belfry]

Need to build more

Oh no wait

Regular Hoshino has a self heal in her NS too

& that skill is lvl 3

[rare arch]

That’s a conditional self heal

[signal belfry]

Ooooh yeah

Once per battle

[rare arch]

And only activates once or twice depending on if you have bond gear lvl 2

[signal belfry]

While reisa is every 50 seconds

Which is like 5× throughout the battle

[rare arch]

It’s nice I suppose

Don’t really need to use her ex skill

Actually you probably could

Cleansing effect from ex skill removes burn

[signal belfry]

Iirc hers us pretty cheap in cost

[rare arch]

Don’t really need to upgrade her skills in that case

Maybe health regen if you need

[signal belfry]

Wauw

[rare arch]

But trinity debt is real

[signal belfry]

She took really little damage

From the lava coming from the ground

[rare arch]

Ground slam

[signal belfry]

Yeah

[rare arch]

Reisa ex can cleanse burn

[signal belfry]

Her cost is also only 3

Her self heal is very little though

[rare arch]

It’s more of a nice bonus

[signal belfry]

1 good hit & it's gone

[languid oriole]

why are even concern about your tank survival when your floor is that low

[rare arch]

Only lvl 70

[signal belfry]

Because it's a lvl 65

My highest lvled students are lvl 70

[rare arch]

Boss level doesn’t matter

[languid oriole]

just

[rare arch]

Only matters if your hitting it with attacks

[languid oriole]

tier up the gears

[signal belfry]

Can't rn

[rare arch]

Speedrun missions

[signal belfry]

Don't have the growth materials

[rare arch]

Start farming then

[languid oriole]

frr suppose to be endgame raid anyway

[signal belfry]

I'll see what i'll do

[signal belfry]

The higher it is, the more damage they do though

[rare arch]

That’s because the boss directly gets more attack

Not because of levels

[languid oriole]

the reccomended level is quite a noob trap

cuz the thing you need is recommended students

not level

[rare arch]

Obviously your students should be higher level

But levels on boss is irrelevant

Only matters when it’s above level 90

If you have survival issues then either level up your students or their gears

[signal belfry]

Damn, i timed Reisa's EX well enough that the burn debuff didn't even last 1 second

[rare arch]

The reisa effect

[signal belfry]

Ok this time i really am under a but to underbuild

Because my time limit ran out the moment he started his fire breath

Which is at F40

Even with a tank

[rare arch]

Tank wouldn’t really influence that

But lemme ask you a question

When did you activate the ballista

[signal belfry]

As soon as it was available & using Reijo's grenade

Which worked up to lvl 39

No

Wait

F39 I mean

[rare arch]

If the fire breath just started when you timed out

Did you immediately get to p2 when second groggy ended?

[signal belfry]

No, i was a bit to slow

However

I was fast enough when Meru was in my team

Before i replaced her with Reisa

I didn't beat it with Meru in my team

But i did get further

[rare arch]

Then you gotta improve her skills then

Specifically 5 ex

Also how are you applying all the buffs on qmarina

[signal belfry]

I'm only applying Ibuki

[rare arch]

Where kisaki

[signal belfry]

Dress Aru's & Kisaki's are on Swimsuit Hiyori

[rare arch]

Why are you using kisaki on shiyori

[signal belfry]

For more damage

[rare arch]

When are you applying it

[signal belfry]

When her gauge next to her healthbar gets to 1

Because then i can use it twice in a row

[rare arch]

When are you doing that

During groggy?

[signal belfry]

Both during the cores recovery mode without groggy & the core's recovery mode while in groggy

[rare arch]

I see the problem

[languid oriole]

you have to instantly use kisaki the moment after you use hiyori ex

[rare arch]

Do you understand that chokmah groggy is the only time you can do significant damage

[signal belfry]

That is exactly what i do

Though i only use Swimsuit Hiyori's EX during recovery mode alone & recovery mode plus groggy

[rare arch]

You can only do damage during groggy

Recovery mode is not the damage window

It’s the groggy

[signal belfry]

As far as i understood, he also takes some more damage during recovery mode

[rare arch]

Inaccurate

The damage window is still during groggy

Anytime else and you don’t do enough damage

Groggy removes chokmah’s dmg resistances and adds some damage vulnerability

[languid oriole]

the recovery mode is to make you deal even more damage during groggy

[rare arch]

Plus max crits

The recovery mode is setting up your groggy to enable the max damage window

[signal belfry]

There are only 2 groggy opportunities though

[rare arch]

Yeah

And that’s when you do all the damage

If you cannot enter p2 after second groggy then something is very wrong

[signal belfry]

Besides, i usually always end up having swimsuit Hiyori's gauge fully filled twice before every groggy

[rare arch]

You just leave the gauge as is

Anytime outside of groggy

Buff your qmarina with ibuki and kisaki

Don’t touch d aru buff

[signal belfry]

I see

Gonna try that

[rare arch]

Keep doing that until you have 3 stacks of unstable flame

Then you activate the ballista

Use your buffs on shiyori

Also use qmarina during groggy but don’t focus the buffs on her yet

[signal belfry]

What icon does unstable flame use again?

[rare arch]

It’s a yellow icon

[signal belfry]

Aah

[rare arch]

With a fire symbol

[signal belfry]

I see

[rare arch]

Repeat the process again for the second groggy

If you did everything right then you should be in p2 immediately after second groggy

After that it’s going all in on dps

Don’t forget to still apply dot on chokmah during p2 to maintain the damage increase

Make sure nobody retreats during this process

And that’s pretty much the entire raid

[signal belfry]

Ok i'm deffinetly undebuild

Because it got me further

But i was still more then 10 healthbars off

[sage fractal]

It matters, because if your DPS is too low level, Chokmah has dmg reduction from your attacks. Conversely, if your students are high level enough, you have dmg reduction from Chokmah's attacks

Boss level matters only for this dmg reduction mechanic

[sage fractal]

F70 wooooooo

[sage fractal]

F72, almost there

[sage fractal]

F74 COMPLETE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[flint prawn]

1 cover and no kisaki interesting

[sage fractal]

Ye, pretty mald cos I have to align 1st Ballista with 1st set of balls. First Ballista used between 2:05-2:00, second Ballista is the last 20-30s lmao. And quite a lot of crit mald

My Aru Dress literally was at the level where she's guaranteed to not die from missile rain as long as she's at full HP

I was planning to do this after Hiero, but I remembered: there's going to be no Neru School borrows once Hiero starts

So I had to finish this today kekw

[flint prawn]

Fair enough, most will move Neru borrow to hiero

So it barely works with 3* low level marina

[sage fractal]

She's level 89 for F72 and F74, with T6 glove

Skills are 3444 tho

[harsh hound]

Well, it is finally time

I might need to invest on this

What are normally the teams we want to run against Chokmah?

[harsh hound]

Wait, wasn't DoT supposed to be the main source of damage?

[sage fractal]

Never was, and never will be

[harsh hound]

So DoT isn't that necessary? Or is it just to activate the mechanic?

[sage fractal]

You need the debuff stacks, and that comes from debuff damage

[harsh hound]

I can't say I can copy your units though, there are many I don't have

[sage fractal]

Why would you copy my cope team

When you can run a better one

[harsh hound]

Because I have no clue on what a standard team should look like

I already asked about it

[uncut lodge]

dot applies massive dmg received debuffs on chok, your dmg is no where near kill it without them

[quiet jewel]

https://www.souriki-border.com/final-restriction-release/4

how close can you get to copying one of these?

[harsh hound]

Wait, is it all Idol Mari?

[sage fractal]

You can just

• search on Youtube
• search the link from Duck
• search images on this channel
• search #1286349517846741122 (tho the last 10-15 videos are all mine)

[quiet jewel]

imari is a good healer, so used in the highest floors

not necessary tho

[sage fractal]

Mari Idol is optional, but she works best because of her sub. -9 cost every 3 EX usages is pog

[cosmic parrot]

ehh

since its "highest" ofc shes needed

cuts a ton of cost too

[uncut lodge]

if you have students to apply decent atk debuffs, you can also use kokonut

[cosmic parrot]

oh u mean for lower

then ofc she isnt

[sage fractal]

We don't even know if Glenn can clear F74

[harsh hound]

Probably not

[sage fractal]

Trying to keep her alive on 75+ is...an experience

[harsh hound]

Most if not all teams in the link they have sent have Idol Mari

[uncut lodge]

biker roko+kotama/ibuki debuff. she'll live albeit barely

[sage fractal]

How far can you go with that

Sounds very cope

[harsh hound]

[sage fractal]

Well...that's on you, F110+ is gigamald, you bring the best or don't bother

Why are you looking at F110+

[harsh hound]

It is the link they sent

We can filter it?

[sage fractal]

Well, you gotta scroll down further or something. I dunno, I would just search Youtube, this channel, or #1286349517846741122

[harsh hound]

Ah, yes we can

These may be?

[sage fractal]

You can see the variety of comps, that tells you that 74 isn't too hard

[uncut lodge]

she can live on blue chok 100f

[harsh hound]

Koharu / Meru / Mika / Swimsuit Hoshino / Maki / Battle Hoshino + Kisaki / Kotama / Ako / Swimsuit Kirino (?

Uh... Seems maldy

What is Swimsuit Kirino for though?

[uncut lodge]

obstacle to block fireball/fire wheels/fire breath

[sage fractal]

I think Hoshino Swimsuit and Kirino Swimsuit clash? Both are EX Aura Atk buff

[uncut lodge]

she also has pretty decent atk buff

[sage fractal]

Well I guess one for Neru School/Mika, one for Meru/Marina Qipao

[harsh hound]

To be honest

I can't run those teams

I would need to borrow either Kirino or Meru

[sage fractal]

I mean...you gotta learn to condense the requirements down

You don't have to use those students

[harsh hound]

And who should I use then?

[uncut lodge]

there are also 100f HWs that don't use healer at all, only ako

[sage fractal]

No healer means Shiroko Cycling mandatory

Or you just die

[uncut lodge]

pretty much, but it's also pretty comfy

very low survival risk

[harsh hound]

So what's the idea then?

[uncut lodge]

iirc there are HWs that don't use s.kirino. but you need to be punctuate with dmg to cancel chok's ballista busters

[sage fractal]

I mean, there's Shizuko, Shimiko, Mimori Swimsuit

[harsh hound]

What are those for?

[sage fractal]

Cover

[harsh hound]

Cover?

Is it not enough with Hoshino alone?

[uncut lodge]

well yes, but rotation would need some tweaking. she also has about 40% atk buff which is kind of hard to replace

[sage fractal]

Since you have skill issue, I'll tell you the requirements:

• A tank (or someone will die to Chokmah AA)
• Minimum 1 cover, highly recommended 2. If you only run 1, your strat changes completely
• Debuff damage to lower Chokmah's reactor gauge. You can get away with weak DoT, but a strong one will help a lot
• Some sort of healing. Ako's epic heals is enough, but a lot of people run 1 healer for comf
• (Optional) Some sort of Atk Down against Chokmah's missile rain
• A main DPS unless you wanna try solo Meru/Marina Qipao runs (might be possible for F74?)
• (F75+ requirements) Secondary debuff damage for debuff stacks, new mechanic for F75+
• Buffers for your main and sub DPS
• Someone to activate the Ballista (usually your debuff DPS)
• (Optional) Cost down and/or cost recovery utilities

[harsh hound]

Anything beyond floor 74 is not realistic

For me at least

I only have one cover

Unless I need to borrow a cover

I have Mika and Uniform Neru as DPS

[sage fractal]

Well that means you need to do Ballista ball cancel

So at certain HP thresholds, Chokmah will try to destroy the Ballistas with balls

[harsh hound]

I don't have any DoT unit built either, so I will have to borrow

[sage fractal]

You will stop him by launching the Ballistas, activating groggy and cancelling that attack

[sage fractal]

I used a 3* level 89 3444 T6 glove Marina Qipao for F74, was enough for me

[harsh hound]

I have a level 60 T4 1/1/1/1 Qipao Marina as of now

[sage fractal]

Unless you wanna tell me you're so broke on Shanhaijing/Red Winter?

[harsh hound]

Probably not, I can change that, at least a bit

Although I'm not sure if I can change much the gear

[sage fractal]

Look, you run Kisaki, you can afford a weaker DoT than me

[harsh hound]

So, how should the team look like?

[sage fractal]

...I already listed the requirements

The rest is up to you

[harsh hound]

Uniform Neru / Qipao Marina

A tank, would Tsubaki work?

Battle Hoshino can be the cover

[flint prawn]

Hoshino is your tank, you don't need yet another

[lyric atlas]

B Hoshino is your tank and cover, no need the other
You can pretty much use Shizuko or Shimiko as 2nd cover

[lean lark]

100 done

[rare arch]

Amazing

[harsh hound]

I have a question

What is Swimsuit Ui purpose in that team?

[cosmic parrot]

? yellow eff?

literally the only yellow buffer before like seia

[uncut lodge]

she also pulls the team together so b.hoshino can shield the fire breath by herself during the last part

[harsh hound]

I was not doubting she was good, but I didn't know what her role was, only that

If I had to guess it was either buff or cover

[uncut lodge]

for yellow buff there's also x.serina. but unfortunately she's often forgotten...

[harsh hound]

Well, I don't have Christmas Serina either, only Christmas Hanae

[languid oriole]

you can check schaledb

or wiki

[harsh hound]

I mean, yeah, but there are a lot of units, I will forget what some of them do eventually

[cedar yarrow]

F100 finally, sometimes p2 phase change cut off ~6m of uneru's damage.

[lean lark]

easier aoe buffs like kotama/s.kirino

[pseudo grove]

her AAdps seems atrocious outside of her EX windows

sakurako deals 140k dps with the same buffs, and that's not counting silver bullets

but meme runs with nissan as solo dps + ritsu + rio + snagisa + seia are gonna be fun

[flint prawn]

whos that even?

[pseudo grove]

nissan

the EX only lasts 10 seconds so there's no way to realistically keep it at high uptime

that EX AAdps should probably be slightly higher because she gets infinite ammo

[flint prawn]

So its new JP student I see
Shes not even good mood for outdoor, probably designed for something else upcoming

[pseudo grove]

urban shirokuro lunatic

[pseudo grove]

oh she's also almost as squishy as mssuzumi

clearly not meant to be a fos unit

[harsh hound]

Hello again, sorry to bother

How much of an improvement is 3* Onsen Shigure over UE60 Hanako?

[rare arch]

3* is not very good

[harsh hound]

So I should better keep using my own Hanako?

[quiet jewel]

yes

ue60 hanako significantly outperforms a 3* oshig

[harsh hound]

Very well then, I'll keep using her if that's the case