🗼final-restriction-release

[sick tulip]

In my perspective, irl time is a resource too

A very valuable one

[pure girder]

I don't get it, I just want the achievement of doing it and am a bit angry that I was smokebombed about which characters are hard required to do it

[pure girder]

true that

[sick tulip]

If you want to clear, you have to put in the hours

[native ocean]

then do u want kaede ver?

[pure girder]

well maybe someone finds a solution, here's my timeline of the only comp that came close to working (8m off even tho the video killed at 2s)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ac3a1bC06mpPYFWIpXmRU8IXc0GuFvmtcx2zdK6iEbc/edit?gid=1707901941#gid=1707901941&range=A3

[sick tulip]

In some ways, you may have already spent time searching for videos, etc.

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaCaJqThvx4&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtF44OqJ1Zr4e1eBnVF2yLp2&index=21&t=209s

[sick tulip]

But… you get what I mean

[pure girder]

If I knew it's doable I'd put in the hours but I'm not gonna waste the hours on something that probably doesn't work because not a single person has cleared with the team

[sick tulip]

If you don’t like playing this mode, you definitely shouldn’t.

I think it probably works.

[pure girder]

doesn't work, I tried that for several hours after fully transcribing it in detail and it's always at least 8m off
nvm my bad I don't have kaede, thought that's a different comp

[pure girder]

How are you this confident when there's not a single known clear with it

[native ocean]

so u tried 2 diff strat

and both leaves 8m?

[pure girder]

nah my bad, see above

[native ocean]

ic.. kaede also out of opt

[pure girder]

I wanted to do that but noticed I don't have kaede after transcribing it

[sick tulip]

I believe that the team has enough damage, and also enough healing. That’s all.

If you want to stay close to that video… hmm… maybe Ayane could be a stopgap?

It depends on how much Kaede’s basic+ discounts weigh in.

[pure girder]

don't have kaede anyway

[native ocean]

and u likely borrow BYosh

[slow sage]

there are dhina + yoshimi setups

[native ocean]

that's the one they have tried

except u find diff vid with diff rot or timing

aight, find none

[pure girder]

I already tried slightly changing rotation but no dice either, there's just not enough damage because it's not possible to have full buff uptime, always 15s or so where BYoshimi is missing DAru and/or Kotama

and DHina doesn't do enough damage by herself to compensate

I'll go try SIori, there's a comp that supposedly clears with UE30 on her

[sick tulip]

It may be a case of shuffling around Kokona stamps until you get her discounts in the correct places.

[pure girder]

I'm already making use of every Kokona stamp every cycle aside from the ones that aren't worth using

[sick tulip]

You can also delay B.Yoshimi EX occasionally to after her last basic cast, to buy extra time. Just try to make sure you get it back before her subskill activation.

[pure girder]

It's at the point of timing BYoshimi EX so her autos hit exactly right to not happen when a buff runs out for 1.2 seconds

[sick tulip]

More stamps isn't always necessarily better, having discounts at the right time can sometimes matter more.

There's also a matter of pushing her basic skill around a bit to get the most out of the heal

[pure girder]

There's not much wriggle room, with the strat you have to reroll for Kokona basic to trigger at the exact correct time so she heals BYoshimi during Boss EX anyway

otherwise you have to heal her with EX and get a lightning on the wrong target

[sick tulip]

For standard refresh, it's normally okay to release the EX when the third shot of her 10th AA has left the barrel.

If delaying until after the basic, you can wait until her right elbow moves backwards, that's means she's started her reload, and you will cancel it.

[pure girder]

thanks for trying to help, I'll hope SIori can clear somehow

[sick tulip]

Let me go check the video again, normally a B.Yoshimi can survive the Spear hit without any healing, especially a borrowed one.

Oh, I see, they leave B.Yoshimi on half hp and heal the obelisk instead.

[pure girder]

She can't, I lost 3 runs because of it

even if she starts at full HP she dies between ticks

[sick tulip]

Are we talking about the same attack?

Which EX is this? (Since almost all Set's attacks are technically EX skills)

[pure girder]

https://youtu.be/_eXxM6F5kRE?t=321
This one, I've gotten it to where Kokona uses basic during it so the EX can go on the Obelisk
That way the bottom Obelisk doesn't get hit and SHoshi isn't debuffed

[native ocean]

oh u hab S.Iori, just not U50

[pure girder]

She's UE30 but when I last tried the SIori comp it was 15m off with mine

[sick tulip]

Oh, I see, because this is a Hanako comp. That makes sense.

Instead of dedicating Kokona EX to that, it's probably preferable to have Atsuko tick inside the spear hit instead, do you think?

I haven't checked the whole video, but you said you played it a lot earlier.

Is the timing in the example very important?

[pure girder]

not really but it doesn't solve the issue of missing 8m damage

It's already very close at UE40 DAko and SShiroko

[sick tulip]

The depicted Atsuko timing loses a full heal tick at around 0:42

I'm looking for where the EX was used, give me a moment

Around 1:09, it seems.

Move that EX to about 1:06.4

How strong is your Kokona?

[pure girder]

https://youtu.be/UpbOHkHINDI
Oh this one almost worked first try, just need to get Hanako timing down

Not gonna waste time on the other one, it's strictly worse in terms of damage

[pure girder]

It doesn't matter if the healing is optimized, the damage isn't there

Only way to do it is replacing Atsuko with a damage dealer

I got within 3m with the last DAru basic cancelled, should clear easily with SIori sub for Atsuko

[sick tulip]

That's good.

If you have the healing under control, then committing harder into offensive play is a good move!

[sick tulip]

My S.Nonomi expends her last augmented ammo and reloads at 5.5 seconds remaining: Is it a damage increase to use her EX at this moment?

(Attack speed buffs from her basic skill and B.Kazusa’s EX are both active)

[wide orbit]

... i really should stop malding

[austere crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q5vyAP_UVw

chokma 106 livestream attempts

[crude kiln]

Go higher!!!

[flat widget]

Byosh ded here

Continue the mald tomorrow...

I guess..

[merry thunder]

Would a 3* SIzuna struggle to one shot the orb at F100 for blue?

[desert cave]

p.sure she needs UE for that

[hallow ivy]

[spark epoch]

Congrats!

[hallow ivy]

now i can slacc all the next set

got both medals on the first round

[sick tulip]

Struggle is an apt description. She will need triple buffs at least to have a chance, and depending on what those buffs are, she may still be at risk of low stability.

The buffs from previous red or blue orbs are included in that though, which is what leads to those clears where people use Sakurako or S.Shiroko on the first orb of the round, then switch to S.Izuna for as long as they can chain the buff uptimes together.

[spark epoch]

It has just occurred to me that I forgot to post the footage you requested the other day. I'm sorry. Do you still need it?
Also, is your Hanako underhealing, and what's her investment?

[somber mango]

till what floor important mats need to reach?

[wicked prairie]

74 i guess?
For my own i always stop at 74 because i didn't want to mald anymore on floor 75++

[wide orbit]

96-97 if you want all those guide books

[flat widget]

I waant
I still need it

I'm sorry for the late response, yesterday I

[sick tulip]

It seems that this is my limit for now.

There is at least 5M missing damage to find for the next stage. Although I have suspicions on what needs to be done, there's no time left for me to play until I get the sufficient crit rates.

This month has been really fun though.

Perhaps I like the red team more, or perhaps the extra season's experience is factoring in, and I'll soon end up enjoying the blue team more than I did the first time around?

[zenith escarp]

Im done

Briccing was worth

[sick tulip]

How does the Miku team feel? It's the main one I did not get a chance to try.

[zenith escarp]

Its fine

requires some timing but thats the norm for high set floor

and you don't have to worry about canceling normal skills unlike s.eimi shield repos

downside is lower damage, 108 iirc was the ceiling for Miku teams while s.eimi was capable of 109

[sick tulip]

Oh? The damage ceiling for a Miku team was lower? I thought it was higher for some reason.

[zenith escarp]

Im relatively sure s.eimi offers more damage

[sick tulip]

I know that the pure healing numbers fall short of Kaede's shield, along with the higher cost, but the offensive buffs were thought to make up for it, at least that's how I heard it advertised.

Do you think the crit rate makes Kokona more consistent?

[zenith escarp]

Im sure it helped

but kokona proc has always been more consistent here because d.ako buff + 6 strikers was already a thing

[sick tulip]

Ah, I reset countless runs because I had several make-or-break Kokona basic casts mapped to certain points inside ATG3

[zenith escarp]

That just happens sometimes

Crit rng

[sick tulip]

There's rotations I'm aware of that go even further keep Kokona's EX exclusively on the lantern, healing the team only with basic casts.

[zenith escarp]

But for season 2 Set at least, S.eimi is 109, Miku is 108

[sick tulip]

I think I had a swing of around ten seconds by the time I got to the last minute,

[zenith escarp]

and I think there was a 107 clear for kaede in JP

[sick tulip]

Yes, that F107 clear was the model that I followed all the way up. I'm fairly certain that I've ultimately settled on close to the same rotation as what that may have used.

If there were another week, I could perhaps try enough times on the most crit-dependant rotation to see if the damage matches up.

[zenith escarp]

Im just gonna hold off on more mald until third slot gear

[sick tulip]

Is the next red set season overlapping with the fest banners at all?

If T9 watch isn't enough, then I won't make it any further without finding some more eligma, and I have no pulls planned until fest.

[native ocean]

Before

Fest will come with s5

[sick tulip]

Ah, I see. Oh well.

[spark epoch]

Here it is.

[flat widget]

Thank you!

[spark epoch]

No problem. But you may still need to adapt Hanako's timing if your units have less HP than mine, and/or your Hanako has less potent healing ticks than mine.

[flat widget]

Yeah, My lvl 80 students died immediately from Seth shockwave on 1:55:00

They have t9 gears but it looks like it's still not enough

and Kotama isn't build enough so I use Himari instead

[spark epoch]

What's your Kotama's investment? My Kotama is Lv.67, 3-star, 5117.

If you are using Himari, the rotation is different due to cost regen.

[spark epoch]

Did you heal them before the attack? The 01:55 attack is the first attack during ATG3 and hits pretty hard.

[flat widget]

I think my rotation is wrong, I didn't go back to hanako before the shockwave

[spark epoch]

If your Kotama is somewhat built, you can try following my footage. Kotama's buff lasts longer than Himari. Last season, I could clear F67 with a 3117 Kotama. This season I cleared F99 with a 4117 Kotama. If you decide to use Himari, take note of the Hanako timing so that you can heal your team in time.

[flat widget]

Okay! I will build Kotama

I thought I need max ex kotama

I'm already dried on Millenium mats

[spark epoch]

Me, too.

[boreal atlas]

It's ok.

everyone else does too.

[tawny dragon]

https://discord.gg/bluearchiveglobal?event=1307998295901081620

[fringe sigil]

[heady rain]

any here got a ue50 b.yoshimi so I can do f100 set

[sour kayak]

Forgot to do this.

That would have sucked since I have a strong red lineup.

[hearty mantle]

is floor 67 good enough? for a casual? it's wearing me out already, just don't want to be too behind in student investment.

[arctic loom]

[novel jungle]

i think, Im cooked ._.

[hearty mantle]

why are you cooked?

[noble hill]

Atlast

Done floor 74

[noble hill]

Nah

[earnest widget]

wow I cut it way too close with the date

both colours f100 clear

on their first season

[noble hill]

50 is good enough I guess

[lusty sage]

Help stage 49.

[sour kayak]

Hina or Serika would be better than Aru.

Aru's attack speed is too low, and she gets crippled by the EX skill damage down.

Ack

Kokona died

Gaaah

Not having 5* Hina really feels bad

[celest spindle]

you need a bYoshi Ue50 friend

can be ez f50 only with bYoshi and sHoshino

[lusty sage]

Already done 49
Cannot pass 57
Gonna sleep now

[sour kayak]

This is my comp for Floor 65.

UE30 B.Yoshimi

[sonic ibex]

last day effort

[amber pawn]

where do i need to move with Shizuko?

[lyric atlas]

95 for now, back 2 months later when my students are more built

[chrome chasm]

its last day so

we will check your fury of set light armor 100 clear by the end of the restriction raid. those who fail to do so will be kicked out from the group.

[chrome parrot]

[hallow ivy]

[fringe sigil]

[dry karma]

have no band yoshimi or kazusa, guess f99 isnt for me then

[half atlas]

Welp glad i got to clear f99 at least

[dry karma]

dude i was so close

300k hp left for f99

[merry thunder]

Eh, I'll take it, units not good enough for F99 yet, gonna get that F100 red armor title on S4 Set

[somber mango]

atleast till fl 97 w only ue30 dhina

[dry karma]

f97
good enough

best band yoshimi borrow is a ue40

[crude cedar]

Atleast im trying

[dry karma]

but its already another day in BA server though

[crude cedar]

[zenith topaz]

So at what point do borrows cost? Or is it still free on the JP server?

[sick tulip]

It is still free, to my knowledge

Since we have infinite entries, removing borrow costs is intended to prevent a mass credit-laundering scheme, I believe.

It would be nice to uncap the daily limit though. Idk if there’s a motive for that remaining in place?

[zenith topaz]

Hmm I didn't think of that, but you are right. Infinite tickets + low floors = 40k every 3ish minutes? It's still a lot of work, but I'm sure someone would create a bot/macro for that if that loophole existed.

[split kiln]

Floor 1 is like 10s per run

[zenith topaz]

Is it? I just skip it all lol

[native ocean]

Was it end alr

[split kiln]

Idk but it must be

[native ocean]

Or has 3h left

[split kiln]

It ended 3h37m ago

[native ocean]

ow, so on reset

[torpid basin]

I would assume it’s to encourage having multiple friends

[radiant canopy]

or to give people incentive to do it across multiple days instead of using the same borrow and doing it all in one day

[torpid basin]

Well I was speaking in general

Since I would just assume they would keep the same code for any borrowable content

I can’t imagine them going out of their way to change the backend for just exactly this one mode

[native ocean]

Time to delete s2 playlist

:kekestare:

[sick tulip]

The degree to which it is hardcoded on the backend also counts as potential motive, to me, either this way or that.

Making borrows free likely signals to us that it was indeed a ‘change the number in the box’ job, but we can’t say whether altering the daily limit is of the same nature.

[boreal atlas]

Don't

seasons 2 4 6 are pretty much the same lol

there seems to be almost no difference

[sick tulip]

S2 1-74 playlist can maybe be removed, since all future seasons will be post-nerf stats?

Though idk if there’s a new 1-74 collection that was made in its place

[merry thunder]

Thanks, and do you know how much investment/UE she needs in order to pop orbs herself without the extra steps?

And alternatively, is it a common strategy for some players to just use SShiroko as the orb popper?

[native ocean]

I actually just mix em

So u will find s2 vid on s4

Etc

[boreal atlas]

oke

[native ocean]

I removed some ofc

[native ocean]

I removed 1-24 for s1/s2
Then removed 1-50 for s3/s4
Next is remove 1-74 for s5/s7

The problem with s6 is there almost no change

so i'm bit unsure to also remove 1-74 or not

Well should be fine?

In exchange there will be more vid on 75-99 / 100+

means more option

[boreal atlas]

[sick tulip]

This does frequently happen on teams without S.Izuna, or much less frequently on teams that have enough damage to not need S.Shiroko’s debuff on the boss.

[sick tulip]

Um… so the answer to this is technically ‘never’, but to my memory, most people will take her to UE30 for comfort on F100.

At UE30, S.Izuna needs help from two buffs to pop the orb.
At UE40, I think it’s only one (?)

Err… no, it must still depend on what exactly those buffs are, I think.

But whatever the exact numbers are UE40 needs one less with the buffing structures that are most common.

The breakpoint is pertinent with respect to non-S.Hoshino teams, because on this team, the extra buff needed for a UE30 S.Izuna might be coming from NY.Kayoko.

There are some rotations that don’t have NY.Kayoko uptime on S.Izuna at the right moments (since Sakurako gets buff priority), so these strats work at UE40 S.Izuna, but have a chance to fail at UE30.

[radiant canopy]

ue40 with shoshi buff is enough

[sick tulip]

Oh thanks! It must depend on what the exact buffs are, in that case.

S.Hoshino teams must need only one, but I guess NY.Akari needs two, at UE40?

Or something like that.

But the general idea is that at UE30 you can kind of do almost anything and the orb will break, because having full buff uptime is good general principle.

UE40 lets you do really anything rotation-wise. As long as the team is overall sensible.

Below 5*, there is no choice but to pick a team+rotation with the extra buff, which usually means dedicating extra NY.Kayoko casts.

But all that said, there’s also the consideration that UE30+ S.Izuna has an easier time surviving, which is an equally large motivator…

[sick tulip]

I think having at least one group of 1-74 on each colour should exist? Maybe the specific season it comes from doesn’t matter if they’re all the same?

Having some kind of low floor reference seems responsible, even if it’s mostly cursory, since Set has a different rotation at 74 and below.

[native ocean]

I dunno i just feel that lower is almost whatever atleast for blue

But red ye

Tho it just weird when i removed blue but not red

i'll check

[sick tulip]

I think the playlist can be removed if we can replace it with a pinned video that suffices for the weakest possible player?

[native ocean]

Hm

[sick tulip]

Like if a Lv1 Sensei with no gacha units whatsoever can borrow and clear, then that clear would make references for all floors below it obsolete.

There’s a S2 F50 clear using B.Yoshimi borrow and a Lv1 striker, for example. But iirc that clear needs either Himari or Ako, so there will still be people searching for alternatives.

[native ocean]

oh, that's mine

well i cook it for fun

[sick tulip]

Nice clear then!

So we really just need to find out how far a single borrow + maybe Kotama/Serina/Hanae/S.Shizuko can go? And how low level the healers can be?

If we can do F24, then it’s safe to put every F1-24 playlist in the bin.

At least this is my opinion.

If you want to delete it unconditionally, that’s fine too.

[native ocean]

so no gacha unit hm

i forgot to try that

but yea i don't find any vid with that

[sick tulip]

Well, my guess as to the vision of maintaining the playlist is to help people who are searching for something when they don’t have the most common units?

[native ocean]

[sick tulip]

So there will always be people who want to know what to do without Ako or Himari or Kokona, etc.

There’s the undeniable alternative that we can tell them to simply “wait until you’ve levelled up more” to clear F24…

[native ocean]

smth like that, but i also avoiding making playlist for easier stage cuz they maybe simply copying it before even learning

[sick tulip]

Perhaps, yeah. It’s up to you.

[native ocean]

tho i get what u mean so i can consider it for now

[sick tulip]

For a very new player asking how to clear, the playlist is good if we link them the playlist.

If there’s no type of player to which we’d ever give a 1-24 playlist, then it’s truly useless.

We could advise copying a team from F50 instead at whatever level they are on, and it would still work at a correspondingly low floor.

Oh wait, not F50. F49, where there’s no attack type.

F49 clear possibilities should be subsets of every floor below?

[native ocean]

yea

[sick tulip]

Without attack type, F49 is probably such a huge superset of F50 that it seems difficult to ignore unless we can find a one-size-fits-all solution.

Oh wait, it doesn’t?

Crazy

[native ocean]

hm, how to check

oh wait, it has?

[sick tulip]

Something odd I’m thinking about now is that we commonly describe the resources from most Set floors as negligible, but they are disproportionately more important the newer the player is.

[native ocean]

a sec, lemme check

ok my bad, it's from 25

[sick tulip]

F40, if not F50 might be an unexpectedly desirable milestone for a super-young account because of the achievement pyros

[native ocean]

iirc it's gonna be spread evenly for lower floor?

or was it alr

the reward

[sick tulip]

Oh, is that so? I didn’t hear about that.

At the moment, we got 30 pyro for the first clear of each multiple of 10, right?

[native ocean]

i think it was just gonna make the book drop like 1 each floor instead of make it drop 5 to like stage 7 only

smth like that

[sick tulip]

Oh, that could be. I wasn’t thinking about the book.

I was imagining a player who started a week ago and is trying with all their might to spark the fest banner before it leaves.

[native ocean]

ye

[sick tulip]

Because… There could be players like that quite easily, for whom the mere 120 pyros is quite important, who got told that F40 is probably free with a borrow.

(Pretending in this example that F40 is, in fact, free)

You can get to Lv30 in a week or so right? Or is that too fast?

How high a floor can Lv30 EX1 healers heal the obelisk, do you think?

[native ocean]

not sure

cuz i dunno how much exactly tower need

since it took dmg

[sick tulip]

Best F2P healers are… Chinatsu, Serina, Hanae,…?

[native ocean]

serina hanae will be the common

[sick tulip]

Surely we’d want S.Shizuko still. Or would we prefer Kotama?

Hmm… there’s cost to consider too, if all non-borrow strikers are dead.

[native ocean]

kotama is preferable when it's multi dps team, when also taking the atk down to account

but notlike the other gonna do dmg?

so basic buff from s.shizu should be preferable here?

[sick tulip]

Yeah, it’s the attack down In wondering about.

Since a low-floor clear essentially boils down to the damage ceiling of a borrowed dps + healing the obelisk.

Whichever of those two is the bottleneck, is the highest floor that a new Sensei can clear until they start pulling their own gacha.

[sick tulip]

Or do you even need to heal the obelisk? Surely a Lv1 Sensei can just eat the lightning on the main dps and still clear F10 or something, right?

[native ocean]

i think it need around 9k?

[native ocean]

idk

[sick tulip]

Ah, I remember not being able to find this.

[native ocean]

it still 70% debuff for 30s multiple time and bad buff+stat transfer

[sick tulip]

We need to only heal as much as the damage Set does back

I think it does 105% of its attack stat? But can’t remember clearly

[sick tulip]

Oh, it’s worded kind of funny

[boreal atlas]

overcharged

[sick tulip]

Is that 105% or 235%?

[boreal atlas]

called electrified in jp language

[native ocean]

not sure

[sick tulip]

I guess that setting a student to 500 defence should simulate the damage… probably?

I can check frames on my recording in an hour or two to figure out the exact damage numbers.

[native ocean]

well u don't need to do complicated thing tbh

[sick tulip]

Okay… sure…? If you say so.

This ought to be pretty easy to test, either with video or after the new season opens, I think.

(?)

I meant to send a feature request for Schaledb to let us display the numbers in the damage calculator though.

[native ocean]

ow, u can do that maybe

[sick tulip]

Oh, hmm… Will S3 Set be open after maintenance, or will Plana be sleeping for a day?

[native ocean]

sleep

[sick tulip]

Good Plana

Get a well-deserved rest

[native ocean]

so

nvm

[somber mango]

when next set rotation?

[merry thunder]

Thanks for the answers from you and joexyz c:

Right now I'm trying to figure out what the most reliable way for me to pop an orb is if I'm running Kokona, Atsuko, DAko Umika, and TShiroko. I assume my only reliable answers are SShiroko and Sakurako

I'm just using Umika because I love her and want to use her, which I understand is kind of a hindrance for team building because most people just rely on TShiroko to carry them

I was just a bit averse to using Sakurako over SIzuna because she seems to require a lot more maintenance to maintain her debuff which might be hard to play around with Umika? But if SIzuna isn't as reliable for popping the orb then I guess my choices are limited

[native ocean]

aight, it's ready

[heady rain]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

[sick tulip]

That's no doubt a rare and highly exotic team. I can imagine why S.Izuna is desirable in this context.

Personally, I never got a chance to try out Umika in S1, so I have little inkling of how this team might go. I'd wholeheartedly encourage you to try out S.Izuna anyway - It might work after all.

(With respect to your prior investment question though, I'm pretty sure it's a UE40 angle, if you choose to do that team. You may need to field test to find out the specifics.)

[native ocean]

I'll try the solo striker farmable next

But looking on what causew done, it's proly only f30/40

Either blue/red

Pre-kuroko

[shy moon]

are we just running back season 1 comps with s3

[spark epoch]

Yes, unless you spooked somebody new and useful and invested.

[native ocean]

Someone like THasumi not work similarly just that

Or if u want better, wait t9

[sly glade]

whens ri up again?

[native ocean]

In 3h

[runic bolt]

https://youtu.be/KKyUm70SSbw?si=8s3SGwhAzyJmJ_m0

I might do F104

[native ocean]

Me 99

Proly 100 when t9

[torpid basin]

But we have t9

mostly

[native ocean]

Watch

Neklace

[runic bolt]

T9 neck is shit for CC users tho

Same CC as T8 neck

[native ocean]

u aren't cc-ing Frr boss anyway

[runic bolt]

Imagine we get that on a future FRR boss

:clueless:

[native ocean]

That's problem for future me

[desert cave]

prob can make up for bugged t.hasu in s1 with all strikers t9 watch.

[native ocean]

Sure ig, u fill the gap from teams instead

https://youtu.be/Rebl1yw1faA?si=UzgTI73IPtMMr_XO
What was the comp before

It was with NyKayoko but no S.Izu?

[runic bolt]

Tower up

[sick mauve]

quick clear

[native ocean]

Need smth to cast

Hm

40 with no gacha thing (assuming Saku borrow)

U40

[clever kayak]

if anyone needs a sakurako or Utaha for Set, add me i still have space

[native ocean]

Wym bed

[clever kayak]

i meant to write add

[foggy wasp]

[modest patrol]

wats the meta

or is it literally the same as last blue raid

[native ocean]

Same

[modest patrol]

damn

i hated tht team

[native ocean]

[modest patrol]

m.momoi is btr than sakurako right

[lyric atlas]

No still sakurako

[modest patrol]

its over

[lyric atlas]

Wait 2 more months for strong wolf

[clever kayak]

who am i missing again?

[sick tulip]

NY.Kayoko? Atsuko?

Maybe T.Yuuka?

Oh, it’s D.Ako, probably

[uncut panther]

Ny. kayoko

Or d.ako

And definitely change nagisa

[sick tulip]

Nagisa feels like she shouldn’t be there either

[clever kayak]

i dont have dress ako, or atsuko

so ill just have to do this

[uncut panther]

Just clear the highest stage I done in 1st season...

And I don't remember the team setup I used before

[celest spindle]

same

f100 maybe tomorrow

take like 2~3 tries

[sick tulip]

Only new thing I’ve spotted so far was an Atsuko+Kaede strat that popped up.

[clever kayak]

F49 done

i might try 74 auto

I'm a little short on auto but it could be better

[wary hill]

Do you get another medal for this reset?

[slate stag]

This was too close

[runic bolt]

Unga bunga rotation F99 blue still easy than F99 red

[uncut panther]

No,you won't get new medal

If you obtain it in the 1st season, the medal reward just went black if you already have it

[wary hill]

Ah ok ty

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mwo03kkxg&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtFW3pat5IG9VbscFvDHBUr9&index=3
u all can sleep now

[clever kayak]

what about 99

[livid drum]

question: do you really need high-level units for f24 or would having meta units with somewhat medium levels (like 70ish) and a little brain activity be enough

[clever kayak]

no you need high level and meta units for anything past 110

[livid drum]

gotcha, I'm just not using enough brain then

[clever kayak]

what floor are you trying to do?

[livid drum]

24

got him to 34 bars and then time ran out

[clever kayak]

my bad i thought you said 124

my fault

no 24 should be doable with level 70 students

can you show me your team?

[livid drum]

my point still stands then lulz

[livid drum]

one moment

[clever kayak]

if you have level 90 students you can just full auto it with anyone

[livid drum]

something like this

[livid drum]

I'm still at 89 so not yet

[clever kayak]

do you have kokona or atsuko?

[livid drum]

yeah, both

[clever kayak]

well you can use them over serina, hanako and shizuko

if you use either koko or astuko you get rid of summer hoshino

[livid drum]

hmm i see, I'll try later

ty

[mighty pebble]

[clever kayak]

also your shizuko and kokona subs cancel each other out

[livid drum]

so i can get rid of support healers and get some buffers instead?

[clever kayak]

do something like this (no shiroko use himari)

this can do 99

positioning is also very important

just to check your not healing both obelisks are you?

[livid drum]

only the left one

[clever kayak]

perfect

[livid drum]

hmm I don't have NYAkari

[clever kayak]

thats a borrow

i saw you wernt borrowing anyone

[livid drum]

aight

[livid drum]

i keep forgetting that exists

hmmm that's still progress either way

[zenith topaz]

Floor 99 cleared. 3* Ako died around 1:30, but still cleared before the team wipe.

[clever kayak]

i believe

[livid drum]

hmm, I'm noticing my team can't deal enough damage to get the lightning gauge to at least 50

should i be concerned

[mighty pebble]

You should just borrow a raised dps

[clever kayak]

can do that too

[livid drum]

[sick tulip]

If you never deplete the lightning gauge, that does imply insufficient dps to kill the boss overall…

[livid drum]

yeah figured as much

[sick tulip]

Getting blue orbs is in some ways a mediator for a clear. They can be used as checkpoints, perhaps.

[native ocean]

It looks impossible pre-kuroko

[sick tulip]

I’m not certain if a clear without triggering blue orbs is somehow possible, but I would assume that it’s quite far outside the typical gameplay space.

[native ocean]

What floor was it

24?

[mighty pebble]

[native ocean]

Aight

[livid drum]

I'll keep trying later today though

if I don't get it then I'll just come back like way later

[lone girder]

.666s faster than last blue set

[clever kayak]

Yeah I'm still 20mil off auto 74

But I should be able to clear easily

Not sure about manual 99

[modest patrol]

i just saw a vid of som1 just putting auto in the whole run on floor74

tf

[clever kayak]

It was glorious

[mighty pebble]

They're right here

Also it'll be possible to clear f100+ on full auto after next fest

[spark epoch]

One floor further than the last blue Set.

But my 3-star NY Kayoko always dies.

[uncut panther]

That was pretty close, only 0.3s left

[spark epoch]

Indeed. A last-second triple Umika turrets saved me.

[clever kayak]

Not a good first attempt

[clever kayak]

My 4* kokona always dies first for me

[merry thunder]

Probably should have slacced if I knew there's no new title for f100 if alr gotten previously

[split kiln]

Comf copy paste from last time

[minor depot]

Is it open now?

[livid drum]

yea

[native ocean]

Yea, Kuroko should make f97/99 possible with Auto

[spark epoch]

It wasn't until I took the screenshot that I realised that I was borrowing a UE40 Sakurako instead of a UE50 one.

[native ocean]

Anyway

nvm

[livid drum]

you were right

[hallow ivy]

done

can't go further

[native ocean]

Tragic

[spark epoch]

Literally, one step at a time.

[native ocean]

Yea at max it proly only f50/55

[spark epoch]

The red team can clear F49 without a sweat.

[humble trail]

Any idea why suddenly Ny.Akari drifts like crazy?

I always place her at the same spot, but at 2:45 or 2:14 she sometimes massively moves to the right and stops buffing the students to the left...

Didn't happen past blue...

I place her perfectly, then she drives right like crazy?!

I even make sure to summon her when she's gone, as sometimes summoning her with her old self present can make her go forward too much.

[humble trail]

Well F100 down, it was somehow worse than my last clear lmao (Edit: only by some milliseconds, I was confusing with red clear time).

Oh well, I'll wait on Kuroko to go further on blue.

[thick cave]

ahaha

blue armor huh

ez skip

[wide orbit]

Waiting for UE50 Wappi to borrow i guess

[humble trail]

I can Wappi u if you need

If NA

[wide orbit]

TW sadly

[humble trail]

[fringe sigil]

[slow sage]

Shigure comfy

Way easier than red

[spark epoch]

I'm also faced with this issue. Sometimes NY Akari is just not happy with the spot I choose for her. This behaviour didn't happen in Season 1 for me.

[humble trail]

Exactly, big wth.

I solved by placing her "in front" of Izuna.

I used to place her in the hole behind Izuna, to the right of Kokona and to the left of Sakurako.

This spot seems trouble somehow.

Now, I place her like this:

It's hard to spot, but if she's higher, she still moves like a dummy, but it always covers everyone still.

[spark epoch]

I usually place her at the frontmost of the team, but she sometimes decides to cringe and drive back. I can only solve the issue by placing Umika's firework launchers to block her way.

[humble trail]

Very weird that her behavior has changed. She grew restless between S1 and S3...

[placid marlin]

I need to find an F97 Blue Set clear without any of these:

Umika S.Izuna Oshit Cutaha NY.Akari B.Kazusa

Been searching for a whole month and got no result at all

[wide orbit]

People bring B Kazusa to Blue Set now?

[placid marlin]

She is useable so why not ?

[spark epoch]

She is an attack speed buffer, after all.

[placid marlin]

^

But yeah I'm asking for help here

[wide orbit]

blue armor so fair enough

[humble trail]

You need Sakurako borrow, I assume? Edit: I meant, you have to borrow her, so you can't borrow anyone else?

Got Iwak? She can take care of Blue Ball for you instead of S.Izuna.

Missing all this hurts though, Idk if you can buff Sakurako enough to deal like 100% of F97 Set's damage.

[placid marlin]

I alr borrow Saku

[humble trail]

yes, I wanted to confirm your borrow being locked on her

Sorry for poor wording.

[placid marlin]

Got Iwak

[placid marlin]

My choice simply narrow down to this

[humble trail]

You had a M7M7 UE40 Hanako, if I recall correctly? And I assume a Kokona?

Hanako should be enough to heal, though idk if Ny.Akari's def buff was impactful at all.

[placid marlin]

I think you alr know that I did F100 Set with Bairi dual dps

UE40 M7MM Hanako with Nagisa, the def buff won't be a problem since I can run Atsuko

[humble trail]

I didn't know actually lol. I don't follow every single thing.

Atsuko ok nice

[placid marlin]

The thing here is that Thasu is way too shitty of a free counterpart

Of Bairi

[humble trail]

Yeah she's not good on Set at all

No S.Izuna I mean

[placid marlin]

I can't even make her work remotely works as a cope options

Compared to Bairi

[humble trail]

I imagine you scoured Mido's clears and Nekuro's playlists and found nothing.

[placid marlin]

Yeah

[halcyon moss]

trust me

theres simply not enough dps to do this

[spark epoch]

That's very harsh conditions. The closest I've ever seen are:

[placid marlin]

Hence I call Blue Set the shittier set

Stuffs simply happening in front of my eyes rn

[halcyon moss]

ive tried as hard as i could for f97 on first season

[placid marlin]

Can't find a way to cope with the situation

[halcyon moss]

even malded thasumi basics

always 4-5m short

[humble trail]

If we sum it up like this:

From the classic team, you are missing:

1. Ny.Akari on specials
2. A good offDps (S.Izuna/Cutaha/Umika).

But, nothing else right? Still, this is kinda big for F97. I don't know what you could sub those for.

Ppl do bring copter to cope for Ny.Akari true.

I seen that

How much hp would Copter+T.Hasumi leave him?

[halcyon moss]

nyakari is the only way for thasumi to get f97

like thasumi as sizuna substitute i mean

[humble trail]

[spark epoch]

NY Akari provides very potent buff for the Set.

[placid marlin]

S.Ayane as a stat stick is useless at F97 when combined with Thasu

Anyways it's another F84 cope

Blue Set is just sucks

[halcyon moss]

they changed the rewards btw

so i think 93 is the second last atk books

it should be doable

[humble trail]

Still looks F97?

The number is hidden but this is 97

[halcyon moss]

no i mean the floors before that

[humble trail]

oh

[halcyon moss]

like the reward distribution

[humble trail]

True there's the 2nd to last shooting at 93, my b

[placid marlin]

I wish there's Bairi for Blue Set

Not to mentions if you have S.Izuna, you'll likely need her UE30+, which costs ligmas anyways

[fringe sigil]

Yoshimi..

[lyric atlas]

For me I wish that it's possible to clear with 3 stars s izuna like with 3 stars b kazusa

[placid marlin]

Yeah you see why I don't plan to pull S.Izuna in the first place

Had she been useable in F97 at 3*, she would have been a great pull for my plan

[lyric atlas]

missing many students blue set is just sucks
I can easily get to 95 red but now stuck at 74 in blue
I probably waiting for 2 more months and doing comfy wolf team instead

[humble trail]

Kuroko feels like the much needed breath of fresh air.

You can borrow a Sakurako or S.Izuna and for sure clear 97 at least. She gonna help me try for 104+. I'll slacc F100 until she drops.

[lyric swallow]

[minor depot]

Does F99 have the same timeline as 100+?

[iron pumice]

Yep

[placid marlin]

sorry about that

[woven pulsar]

HAHAHAHA

I am the only double healer on F100

literally new team added to the list

so close to losing it

[humble trail]

Add Atsuko and then clear. First 3 healer.

[native ocean]

i don't think that's new

ppl just haven't doing it on Asia cus it's still day 2 anyway

[woven pulsar]

there was 0 record back then (or perhaps I am not searching at it well)

everything else is ACAri or SAyane

[native ocean]

well it's easier that way

[woven pulsar]

ya

still current FoS with T8 Watch
with T9 Watch it should be FAR easier

could push a bit more than just simply F100

I doubt I can do F105 without UE50 ACari tho

not owning ACari hurting me most
but I ain't feeding Eligma to UE50 Sakurakek

[late lily]

I don’t even have my own blue armored blue dps

Somehow cleared f74 with just saku borrow

[merry thunder]

How do SShizuko and SEimi compare? I was thinking of raising SEimi to fill in until I get NYAkari for blue, but I was also wondering if SEimi replaces SShizuko for red

[rocky dove]

This is the team I'll be attempting 100 with

If ue30 O Shig can be enough that is

[native ocean]

[sick tulip]

If we are resummoning NY.Akari before the previous summon has expired, as is common, then there's a frame where both the old and new TS summon are both occupying space on the field at once, and they social distance each other. The new summon does not actually arrive at precisely the targeted location by consequence, and if you are targeting the same spot every time, she will gradually inch to the right over successive summons. Then eventually she experiences collision with short-range students in the Pos 1/2 spots (for many teams, that's S.Hoshino or D.Ako), and self-relocates to open ground, still following the rightward-biased pathfinding which I assume you already know.

[humble trail]

I knew this. I changed nothing from S1 timings lol

Still, I had to change where I place her in S3.

Checked my own footage lol

I actully waited for her to despawn each time now, and still I had this behavior, so I found her another spot that worked.

[sick tulip]

Ironically, having it happen more now compared to previously probably indicates that higher consistency playerside. The effect is amplified when the NY.Akari targeting is more accurate, or when your resummon is more timely.

[humble trail]

She moved slight inches now, vs meters before.

That might be it lmao

[sick tulip]

The thing that changed is that your skill probably improved whilst playing Red Set for a month

[humble trail]

maybe she takes time to truly "disappear".

When her HP bar is gone I assumed she also was

[sick tulip]

Irl brick, perhaps?

[humble trail]

Irl brick? You meant something like user error?

[sick tulip]

I'm teasing you. In reference to above. This would happen less often if you had a less-steady hand.

[humble trail]

Well, cleared F100 with new placement, ended up being identical.

ah lol

[sick tulip]

It never happens to people who forget to resummon NY.Akari at all.

[humble trail]

[sick tulip]

Anyway, the solutions I know of are to find two different spots that don't conflict at all, and alternate between them.

[humble trail]

Kanon also said he had that, so maybe he also skilled up

That's smart.

My new spot seemed immune to the issue. She did drift, but like 90% less and she always covered everyone. It went from "behind Izuna" to "kinda in front"

[sick tulip]

Or you see some people summon NY.Akari at a place near the back of the team where she always moves forward to get inside her firing range.

[humble trail]

Yes I was doing that actually

but, she would place herself, then immediately drift like crazy after the 3m mark

[sick tulip]

Well the place where she self-relocates to on the first summon needs to also not conflict with the spawn point.

[humble trail]

Even if I wait for her car's HP bar to be gone? And the timer bar below too.

[sick tulip]

Which is kind of tricky to for me assess without trial and error, if I can speak personally.

[humble trail]

Is she still "on the field" for like 1s??

[sick tulip]

She's gone once the asset is de-registered. Err...

There's not a good indicator of when that is, to my memory

[humble trail]

Are you one of the few who has itjustworks discord access? I would be interested in being invited if so and if possible.

I see, thanks for the explanations.

[sick tulip]

But if the dead body of the previous summon hasn't yet faded out, you know that it's still there.

[humble trail]

I assumed she liberated her space when her timer ran out, but I guess not lol.

[sick tulip]

Entities are moved to the (0,0) coordinate once gone, iirc. (edit: Actually starting the second guess this now, so maybe don't rely on it)

[sick tulip]

It's not my place to offer that, I'm sorry. Proper protocol is to DM Causew and ask nicely, I'm sure he'll understand.

[sick tulip]

I'm trying to remember a place where this trait collision persisting for a death animation can be clearly observed, but I'm falling short atm...

Maybe in Chesed, where single-hit AoE instantly killed a half a wave on spawn, but the other mobs moving into position still adjusted as if the space was occupied whilst the drones where dropping to the ground?

[humble trail]

It's fine, I believe ya and it explains what happened.

I was indeed more conscious of her uptime this time.

Last time, I blindly copied homework rota timings to the letter, but this time I adjusted things a bit.

Most likely why

Like, doing Sakurako EX before her basic, so she has atk speed buff for almost entire EX buff.

And, replacing Akari asap

[sick tulip]

If it's reassuring, you can know that I also struggled with this issue, though in my case it changed midway through S1.

It feels like regression, and it's very frustrating. So I understand and sympathise.

Maybe it's worth mentioning: O.Shigure also has a collision hitbox, but only for one frame after she is summoned. That can be a corner case worth keeping in mind.

[humble trail]

That's hilarious.

[brisk lava]

Can this beat floor 49

[native ocean]

Should be

I mean

This can beat f50

[celest spindle]

why your sakurako borrow look so trash

[native ocean]

Don't call me trash

[crude kiln]

Is it possible UE40 Sakurako and UE30 S. Izuna to clear 100?

[onyx salmon]

74 cleared let's goooooooooooooooooo

Coconut made it like 10 times easier

[round aspen]

are the maid twins good for this fight ?

[native ocean]

No

But if u want to use MaidMomoi, she can be used as sakurako alternative till f49/50

[zenith lagoon]

If I'm not mistaken the attack buff of S.Hoshino's EX does not stack with Kotama's EX right?

[crude kiln]

It does, Hoshino's buff is an area-based buff while Kotama's buff is applied once

[fervent berry]

Can anyone lend me a sakurako ue50?

[native ocean]

It does, cuz it's Aura vs Direct type

U can also check Schaledb.com to make sure

[halcyon moss]

best i could do

[native ocean]

It's hard since u remove the NyAkari part

[lyric atlas]

Is there a vid?
Wanna try lower floor

[halcyon moss]

no

i made it just now

i have rotation till like 1:50

after that i just did whatever

[lyric atlas]

Ah ok, I can wait, or imma just trying to guess the rotation myself

[halcyon moss]

this was the rough rot for first half

i just cycled to hanako at 1:36, 1:21, 1:02 after that

[robust fjord]

oh ok f74 with ue30 lvl 89 3444 sakurako with faster clear this time lol

[hidden lantern]

[desert cave]

cleared

[vivid helm]

Anyone know, what is minimum requirements ue for hanako, oshigure ?

[wide orbit]

Ue30 hanako is fine for F99, O Shigure needs at least UE40 for F100+ i think

[stuck field]

Cleared f99 with 3* OShigure 5777

[regal arrow]

can i replace sizuna with nyjunko for f74 upper?

[native ocean]

no

the dmg diff is too huge

and yellow def will be hardly to keep alive for 75+

even tho it's possible till f84

[desert cave]

just use t.hasu f74

[sick tulip]

For F100, as far as I am aware, UE30 is a good minimum recommendation for each. Hanako might need UE40 depending on how built the strikers are.

There are some multi-healer strategies that can get away with 3* or 4*, but I don't recommend them.

At the very least farm Hanako, since her elephs are cheap.

[plush star]

FL99 clear. will do 100 later since no more Ue50 sakurako borrow

[woven pulsar]

I'm gonna wait until 3rd slot T9

before attempting on EU

[ember ocean]

is it worth maxing my own sakurako or just borrow

she lowkey cute

[uncut lodge]

she's also useful against goz

[ember ocean]

why no akari ny btw

[woven pulsar]

because not having ACari and Sakurako

[minor depot]

Easier than last blue set.

[ember ocean]

onsen shigure worth 5ing? Im assuming its essential for later floors considering her healing feels lackluster atm at 3

[sick tulip]

On the defensive front, it's by far the most impactful 5* you can make, in my opinion

Assuming you can afford to take her from UE0->30 as well, of course.

[ember ocean]

Better than Hanako right? Im assuming most ppl are only using hanako due to not having onsen shigure

[ember ocean]

ye that wouldnt be an issue

[sick tulip]

Hmm... probably? Between UE30 O.Shigure and UE50 Hanako, I think there's still some competition.

A UE40 O.Shigure has a higher ceiling and starts to pull away, though at that point it's assumed that F100+ is under discussion, and they start to become a bit less comparable...

[ember ocean]

Damn okay

lowkey wanna ue40 her then

wanna go for floor 100

[sick tulip]

I guess I could say, not everybody who uses Hanako wishes they had O.Shigure, but most people who own O.Shigure do end up using her over Hanako.

[ember ocean]

gotcha, appreciate the info

O.shigure definitely feels nice and comfier compared to hanako

[sick tulip]

Hanako being both farmable and sufficient of F100 factors in a lot, and burst healers are also a tiny bit more valuable in the long run.

But irrespective of that latter point, O.Shigure's ceiling is ultimately still higher (on both defensive and offensive metrics)

Outside of this channel, I think that O.Shigure is also more useful in other content, for whatever that's worth

[clever kayak]

who do i need to make set comfortable

[zenith topaz]

Borrow a UE50 Sakurako

[clever kayak]

i can do that just need to figure out who to swap in for dress ako

[torpid basin]

The ideal replacement is X. Serina

[clever kayak]

What I've been trying

Like this domo?

[opaque wagon]

For special FRs you pretty much need Sakurako to get anywhere, right?

[torpid basin]

she is the main dps yea

well you can use other units, but sakurako is the most impactful

[opaque wagon]

I don't really like FR I just wanna get some of the talent rewards

So I figure borrowing Sakurako would be good

[uncut lodge]

65F. the lack of a proper secondary dps really hurts...

[onyx salmon]

I think you need them both?

OShigure or Atsuko for overall sustain

Hanako or Kaede to survive oneshot skills

please fact check me tho

[plush star]

Cuz i dont have her sadly, she got stolen by my alt.. (sorry for the late reply) 😭

[onyx salmon]

I don't think I have enough dmg even if Kokona didn't die?

[native ocean]

Hm, lookslike the rot doesn't work with u40 Saku hm

3mil off

[desert cave]

cleared

[split kiln]

so whel...

[native ocean]

So was tried f74

It's clearable with 4 Striker now

[winter dragon]

can you try to not use nyakari?

[native ocean]

I need smth to cast

Maybe S.Rocco

I was tried with serina but doesn't seemslike i can make it

[alpine frost]

Is FoS fixed or is it still the toxic version?

I can't get past level 10

[ember ocean]

Can I still use Swimsuit Izuna over track utaha in that comp or naur

[fleet kindle]

Oh blue set is out again huh

Will try later

Will try tomget f100
Tho dun have sakurako 😦

Or c.utaha

[desert cave]

u can and thats prob what most ppl have anyways

[native ocean]

smh, me not most

[flint prawn]

thats team for red set, not blue one

[late lily]

you’re trying to do red damage on blue armor…

[spark epoch]

Here is a footage of the issue.
Somehow NY Akari was being a good girl in the first summon, but decided to drive herself into her teammates in the second and third summon.

Perhaps someone can make sense of how and when and why NY Akari's driving spirit gets activated.

My first S. Eimi repo is not pixel-perfect at all, so the shape of the formation is different from one run to another. With some formation, NY Akari never drives on her own; with this formation, she is apparently not happy with the spot that I assign.

[half atlas]

Cut it way too close on f99

F100 is just a pipe dream

[sick tulip]

Are you asking why she backs up into the middle of the group after being summoned?

It looks to me like she’s decided that her initial position is too far away from her optimal firing range

I’ll confess that I’m not well-versed on NY.Akari’s ranging specifically (as she’s a unique case) nor Set in general (with the boss being gigantic).

If you are at a loss and if it’s a pressing issue, my recommendation for the short-term would be to use D.Ako as your measuring stick: Pulling backwards as done here should place her at the upper limit of the 550 HG optimal range.

Without any proof, my instinctive guess is that the 550 AR optimal range is a tiny fraction further away than that. Though this obviously does little to inform on what the lower limit of that range is.

[spark epoch]

It looks to me that NY Akari should never complain about being too close to the boss. She would complain about being too far away from the boss and drive near towards the boss, though.

[spark epoch]

I would prefer keeping NY Akari at the front, because otherwise, S. Eimi's shield may attract NY Akari and miss one of the girls, causing survivability issues.

[sick tulip]

She... shouldn't honestly, by my understanding of her AI, but Set has some funny pathfinding which I don't full understand. My suspicion is that it's something about the edge of the boss hitbox being so far from the centre, but I haven't looked into it.

And NY.Akari, well... has too many unique aspects for me to extrapolate her behaviour off the next most similar unit.

Before Set, I wasn't certain that she even had a movement/cover search opportunity immediately after spawn, but... its obvious nowadays that she does.

Ordinarily, I would think that being in line with S.Hoshino's 450 SG should be safely inside NY.Akari's goldilocks zone for her to... at least increase the odds of her good behaviour... At the very worst, S.Hoshino being left out of Eimi's shield is the best of the bad outcomes.

I can ask about NY.Akari from somebody who might know later, but I feel like I had this conversation a month ago in context of my own team, and there wasn't a straightforward answer there either

[spark epoch]

I also have Umika's firework launchers, so I already need to be extra careful with S. Eimi's shield. Now NY Akari somehow gets a driver spirit.

How I wish Nexon could publish some documentation to explain all the idiosyncrasies.

[humble trail]

I started positioning her further north than before and she still moved, but not enough to stop buffing everyone, so I went with that.

Positioning her behind the team meant she ended up drifting yeah.

Yours also drifts past the 3 min mark somehow same as me lol.

Still, the drifts in the video you show are still fine, still covers everyone no?

In my case she'd stop buffing people on the left, I imagine you had that at some point though.

[spark epoch]

Actually not fine. It still covers everybody, but S. Eimi's shield may now attract NY Akari, leaving out one of the strikers, causing survivability issues. The very reason that I position NY Akari to the frontmost and Umika's firework launchers to the rightmost is to prevent distracting S. Eimi's shields.

[native ocean]

10% diff huh

I think i won't do f100

idc Title

[humble trail]

Ooooooh! A T.S. can try and get a shield? Hilarious, but ouch...

Akari 💢

I selectored Atsuko and emergency-raised her for Hiero.

I also spooked O.Shig but she's 0 investment.

Still, in the future, I'll migrate to O.Shig+Atsuko.

Also, about S.Eimi, at a glance she seems super optimal, but repos is a pain and atk up means you need to think about the sequence with Kotama.

I didn't know about her, but Keade shields All Allies without repos, she looks awesome for Set, but might need more investment for thicker shield.

Since I can F100 without S.Eimi (luckily), I gave up using her on Set for now.

[native ocean]

Was it attract T.S?

Thought they can only get the shield if u drop it on top of em

[humble trail]

Kanon seems to say it can?

[native ocean]

It's blur but whatever

[split kiln]

worst part is it can only "try"
it count as part of ally count but it won't actually go and get the shield

[native ocean]

Clearer vid

[humble trail]

[humble trail]

So S.Shizuko only Shields 3, vs 4, cuz Akari takes a slot?

[spark epoch]

Ah, S. Eimi tries to attract NY Akari, but NY Akari can't move to claim the shield. But it takes up a slot, so one of the strikers cannot be attracted to the shield any more.

[spark epoch]

Yes, thanks for the clarification. I didn't word it correctly. S. Eimi tries to attract NY Akari and even Umika's firework launchers. They cannot move to claim the shield but takes up slots.

[undone vigil]

does limit break/potential unlock increase student stats by a lot bc idk if i should get into doing final restriction release

[spark epoch]

~2.1% IIRC.

[undone vigil]

so its not very impactful then

the effort that needs to be put in is not worth the end result

[split kiln]

Its impactful enough to matter if ur going for top 10
But you clearly aren't

Still just do it, floor 49 is like 2 min run

[native ocean]

Yea, only 3/4 will get shielded cuz one of em can't move

[humble trail]

2.1% is enough for me!

I'm sure it lowered my amount of runs for top end D.Hina/Mika.

I malded both for high crit/stab for some runs.

[humble trail]

[native ocean]

Any object that counted as friendly unit that isn't student technically

Turret, T.S, Summon, Lantern, Scarecrow etc

Will take the slot and just messed up

[humble trail]

O.Nodoka feeding Hiero lantern won't stop being funny for me.

[spark epoch]

So occasionally, 6 strikers + NY Akari + 3 Umika firework launchers + 2 obelisk = 12 allies to confuse shielders. Well, all shielders except Kaede.

[humble trail]

Kaede too OP.

I underestimated her so much before and even skipper her 40 elephs that event.

I hadn't seen anyone use or mention her, then suddenly I see her in F106 and such lol.

Oh well, I'll go O.Shig+Atsuko in the future and not worry bout it. F100 Hanako until then

[verbal umbra]

F102 done

[torpid basin]

Nice job

[plush star]

too much rng with the healing on the 1:40 timeline... but managed to clear after 4hrs. of malding.

[clever blaze]

i upload vid with time when to heal to 100% survive with Atsuko+o.Sigure though
4hours rip

[drowsy pilot]

Hello, can any chads in here borrow me a ue50 sakurako?

In NA server

[zinc rock]

finally 97 done with UE40 sakurako

took many tries and timing, had 1.2mil left into 300k left and finally cleared

[native ocean]

If u able to clear f97, might as well f99 for the gift

Except u don't care bout it

[zinc rock]

I dont care about it but i might try

7s left and the hp diff is 2mil i think its doable

[merry slate]

Hey guys, is this the 3rd Final Restrictions already? Or 2nd?

[austere crest]

this would be our third set

[merry slate]

Darn. I missed the 2nd set. They need to put notification on this event

[clever blaze]

it last for 1 month though

[dull eagle]

Why does it feel so easy now.

I was having a hard time first time I tried 74

Almost managed to clear it with 4* Sakurako too with 1.2M HP left.

[stark dawn]

I can't survive, I can't deal enough damage, what did I do wrong

[austere crest]

skill issue

rotate better

maybe u use sakurako ex too much

[stark dawn]

I did it

[sick tulip]

There's nothing concrete yet, and I'm probably too busy to investigate properly before the end of the month: But the vague tip I was given is that NY.Akari has some kind of 'stronger tethering' to the rest of them team than is typical.

With this arrangement, I guess that means putting her horizontally adjacent to the clump of strikers is safer, or something? I was not certain whether she's attracted to the team centroid or to a specific team member.

Not guaranteed that this will fix anything, but for the time being, the chance if it helping is apparently... err... non-zero.

[runic hull]

Anyone can help me for this?

[native ocean]

I think there will be like small pop up when it still going on at some point

But again, it's 1 month dur. kinda weird someone missed it

[native ocean]

Just to make sure, have u atleast read the pin to understand how the raid works?

Smth like filling tower to full to remove mark

Popping red orb to team for some buff

Not spamming EX cuz it reduce the AA time which can result to get u lower dmg

[spark epoch]

Thanks for taking the time to look into it!

What's weird is that NY Akari didn't seem to have this behaviour in Season 1, also as Thyro reported. In S1, when I was struggling and malding the Set a lot, NY Akari never drove on her own unexpectedly.

[runic hull]

I am understand since fos still in jp

But, it's very hard than red armor in the past

[native ocean]

well

First, ur Kokona is high enough to both keep team alive and fill the pillar. Which mean, u can change serina+hanako to someone else. U don't have to keep everyone alive and simply those u think important. If u unsure of this, just bring one of em simply for auto heal (if Hanako, need bg2) or use as emergency.

The change can be other good support u have such as S.Rocco, Himari, Ako or Sub/Stat slave such as C.Dmg sub, Aspd Sub.

Second, since u bring D.Ako, Ny.Fuuka is unnessary. This because when the C.Dmg dmg is clashed, the sub dmg is also clashed with Kotama. Also, with the basis of 10 person raid and 5 slot card, including the problem of 80% dmg reduction of EX dmg, using her here is just make it harder.

Since u say u alr understand the basic, then those are likely ur only problem.

And without further ado, this kind of team is enough to beat f50 if everything was doing right.

except ur support are like ex1 etc

[cold minnow]

I think im just lacking dmg because s izu usnt ue 40

Does making ue 40 talent 25 sakurako will fix this

[quiet yacht]

Almost

[cold minnow]

I dont want to spend any more eleph so i guess ill talent 25 sakurako ..?

[native ocean]

Try max lvl everyone and gear for max potent transfer

Talent also can do ye, there bunch season of this mode anyway

[cold minnow]

Brooooooooooooooooooo

[alpine frost]

I can't clear past 24 with this team
What am I doing wrong?

[half atlas]

High chance you are letting lightning hit your dps

[native ocean]

If u feel u haven't read pin guides, do it

[humble trail]

Do you still need?

[drowsy pilot]

Yes

[humble trail]

DM me your friend code imma add ya

[alpine frost]

I also need a UE50 Sakuraku borrow, I can only borrow a 3 star right now

I'm on global

[humble trail]

Global isn't a server IIRC.

Are you on NA or Europe?

Click version info there and check, it's in the options.

Edit: I guess "global" is used to mean both "non-jp" and "europe" eh? Confusing lol.

[humble trail]

[spark epoch]

The guy really needs to read and comprehend the guide instead of repeatedly asking for help and providing no feedback thereafter.

[split kiln]

but reading hard

[torpid basin]

Global is the official name for eu servers

[humble trail]

[native ocean]

hello, me global player

[torpid basin]

Aren’t you Asia

[hardy salmon]

@radiant canopy can you repin this?
#1286349517846741122 message

nvm, the playlist doesn't exist

[radiant canopy]

oops

there

[hardy salmon]

ty

[indigo acorn]

Damn i wonder someone still use miku during set red armor

[hardy salmon]

[native ocean]

most of old vid is transfered to latest playlist vid

cuz there not many vid out there

[alpine frost]

Global is Eu

[humble trail]

[alpine frost]

Also, I read the guide, did what it says but sometimes I miss something like the FoS changing colors the other day which I didn't notice when playing on phone
I don't ask questions because I want to, I just want to clear the content
Also mostly I've been asking for a UE50 Sakurako to borrow for blue FoS since my club is all CN players which makes it impossible for me to ask them for one

[merry thunder]

我可以借人吗 歌住樱子 @alpine frost idk

[spark epoch]

Do you have a damage graph of your failed run? Because upon seeing your post yesterday, I testflighted a run, and my Lv.76 1111 T3T1T1 Sakurako could indeed clear F24 as the sole DPS.
Certainly, there's something we can work together to help you clear the content with the current units.
If you really want a borrow, go to https://discord.com/channels/890474004094263357/1108594770332373143.

[humble trail]

To be fair, S1 and S3 is pretty much the same meta too. I simply re-used my S1 rota here.

I'll change it when I get Kuroko for S5. I might even just copy my S2 for S4 as well.

[native ocean]

Same

[hexed robin]

I forgot to do the Second FoS oh well at least I did one today

Floor 48

[native ocean]

if u able to do 48, might as well 49/50

[robust fjord]

FINALLY GOT MY F99 CLEAR

[humble trail]

[robust fjord]

ACTUALLY

GOT EM

F100

[humble trail]

[spark epoch]

[cold minnow]

[torpid basin]

Congrats

[delicate rampart]

Is there anyone with a juiced Sakurako I could borrow for Set

Friend Code: BFTCYGXO

[native ocean]

U should state ur server too anyway, and there also #1108594770332373143

I hab u40 if Asia

[regal arrow]

what a minimim ex skill and skill for thasumi? is it need all max?. note for f75+

[native ocean]

Since her sub not work here, u proly want it xMMx

If u ever use her EX to destroy orb then it might be like 3/5 MMx

[arctic loom]

It was easier with Himari and Ako on S1

[uncut lodge]

wait set is not counted as large size?

[native ocean]

Extra-Large

Similar size to Binah, Peroro

[native ocean]

Set

The Large-Size boss actually~normally fitted the map in full body.. when Extra-Large normally have some of their body-parts hidden or u can say it's outside the Arena itself.. such as Binah, Peroro

Tho i think FRR are special case when it showed up the full body because the map is wider

But it still apply the thing that boss are outside the Arena (of ur student).. Like u can't get close to it

[mighty pebble]

Well chokmah is still too big

But can you really see the whole body of set

[native ocean]

That full no? Or it still almost

Well the part of wings still outside of screen actually

[dense silo]

Is cutaha better for f49 than sakura?