🗼final-restriction-release

[spark epoch]

Me only have one UE50, can't compete.

[zenith topaz]

Yoshimi UE50

She deserves it

[sick tulip]

Fubuki AA damage is above average, so that's not so crazy. Kotama though...

[spark epoch]

I am somewhat the opposite. I am perhaps too thrifty in spending resources unless I like the girl very much (i.e. Yoshimi).

[spark epoch]

And with LB

[zenith topaz]

I can count on one hand the number of times I've used her EX skill

[zenith topaz]

Did you know you can get an achievement by LB all three stats?

For one student

[sick tulip]

It was actually pretty standard theory at one point. We simply have better Hod units these days, so it's atypical.

The last time I recall Fubuki EX being intentionally used was during an Insane speedrun, right before S.Chise got BG

[zenith topaz]

I remember those days, using her ex before transition lol

[spark epoch]

Yes, I know, although LB her healing doesn't make any practical sense. Moreover, I am already running out of T1 and T2 Winnipesaukee stones at the moment.

[sick tulip]

Yeah! So you know exactly what I mean then

Fubuki dropped out of speedrun theory pretty sharply after that, and she's unlikely to be back now that we have enough buffers to fill the entire team's worth of spare slots

And then the other parts of the fight (as they currently stand) have too much CC pressure to allow Fubuki to waste time lounging around eating donuts

[zenith topaz]

For nostalgia sake. She will get a donut at the end of Hod

[sick tulip]

"Didn't see anything. No law enforcement needed here. It's a quiet day. Good day for Donuts"

There's a fubuki and kirino competing inside my head. That's why half the time I'm lazy, and the other half incompetent.

[spark epoch]

Speaking about wasting time:

[sick tulip]

Hmm... Can we lock a team in place permanently with the correct choice and timing of students/skills?

[spark epoch]

Perhaps it is doable. I'll make an attempt.

[sick tulip]

Try Cherino, Tomoe, B.Airi, B.Kazusa, Nagisa, Moe

Oh, maybe can drop either Nagisa or Moe for somebody with a cost-regeneration sub

[spark epoch]

I was able to let the three band girls stand there playing for two rounds before running out of cost. It looks like I need to time it with somebody's basic to earn more cost.

[sick tulip]

It probably won't work with B.Yoshimi, since she's so expensive

Can maybe check schaledb for animation times

But at least 2-seconds of delay per cost spent is minimum necessity, I expect

Note that the fubuki clip before indicates that Fubuki is probably only 5-6 seconds total delay, so you spend 4-cost for that, the team will eventually escape

Um... I'm not recalling any other students who have animations that might be long enough... Maybe Ibuki or X.Serina?

[boreal atlas]

[zenith topaz]

Ibuki downs that burger pretty quick

[sick tulip]

Tomoe really does stand around speaking for such a long time, at least to my memory

[spark epoch]

Band Airi's EX animation is a whopping 7.33s, Band Kazusa 7s, Band Yoshimi 6.5s.

[sick tulip]

B.Airi is so incredibly long

Then the first two should be good picks

With Himari, cost regeneration on a team of six is 1.9 seconds per cost, iirc

Though it's not necessarily the case that the other team members will wait for all 7.33 of those seconds, etc. etc.

[spark epoch]

I made it!

BUT! What am I malding right now?!

[zenith topaz]

All for science.

[sterile schooner]

Graah!

[native ocean]

[native ocean]

I think that f60 might be possible even with Solo BYosh

I wonder with f74

If possible with S.Hosh BYosh

[spare phoenix]

how do I Set

[crude kiln]

[sick thorn]

would this be ok after i invest in hanako/kotama?f74

[faint bough]

i don't think koharu survives that high

can always try

[sick thorn]

these r my units

[faint bough]

If you clear it faster you ignore the survival check

i think 3* atsuko works too

wheltherite used 3* atsuko f100

[sick thorn]

yea need to build her and my credits out

[faint bough]

but he has kok tbf

i do koklet f99 with ue40 atsuko...

[sick thorn]

oh well ill just try to do red set next time

[faint bough]

well should build those units for set anyway, whether blue or red

just whether the raid cost more and leaves you broke

[sick thorn]

yea i built dako recently since hiero uses her anyway

poor on mats atm

[faint bough]

hiero soon

[native ocean]

[surreal iris]

is toki viable for this boss?

[celest spindle]

Red armor = dead when doing f50+

[flat widget]

I need help

Is there any way to improve my survivability?

Honestly, I haven't read any FoS guide or watch video💀 I'm just trying to figure out how the rotation works and lightning hit the left pilar

I should heal the left pilar, that's all I know...

[celest spindle]

Everytime the left pillar got strike (yellow icon) then you heal its
Using himari then you must time when bYoshimi use Basic
Piority bYoshi survival (use serina ex if you need)
Swap bAiri pos with koharu
Use somethings other than tsubaki

[flat widget]

I'm sorry, Tsubaki is just there to stay alive and keep my cost regen fast, everyone will 100% die at a certain point, even if I spam Hanako heal, only Byosh, Tsubaki, and S Hoshino left
I was able to keep Yoshimi alive that far because I throw every heal I have on her

And because I give serina and hanako heal for Yoshimi, that lightning pilar start to hit B Yoshimi

[zinc rock]

You destroying the red orb before it reach set? It will increase your damage

[flat widget]

Yeah, I did

With D Hina EX

[zinc rock]

if you having problem surviving try to improve your hanako, you have her bond gear? Her 3rd gear maxed? Her healing maxed?

she will be your main source of survival from 1m40 to 0m45 zone

I also dont know how long ur koharu is surviving at f60, it might be good to change her if she die right after the first ATG is filled

consider using TYuuka or SShizuko, from what I tested f60 pillar doesnt take much damage so keep all ur Serina EX on it, if you need to survive use shielder + hanako

[native ocean]

U don't rl need to keep everyone alive, just keep those important there is fine

I have cleared f60 with like.. these

1minute left

As far as everything right, Byosh Shosh with Himari help should be enough

U can do breaking with Nagisa+Koharu trick. Aim Nagisa to both boss + orb when it appear (i don't think *3 will kill it) so when it near ur team throw koharu on it. So Koharu will likely also heal team + destroy orb

If u think it's complicated then breaking with DHina also work yea

[flat widget]

My hanako is 3xxx 114 bond13

[native ocean]

I never use that SShizu EX if u wondering too

She likely need to use when 1min left

And u haven't clear it

[flat widget]

My Nagisa is M77M 918 but I still can't destroy the orb so I swapped her out already

[native ocean]

That's why i said u wont break it

[flat widget]

Oh damn I'm very sorry

[native ocean]

but instead u half it

[flat widget]

Yeah I see

[native ocean]

And u even get debuff on boss

[flat widget]

Omaga this can actually works

[native ocean]

Then u break with koharu and both heal team

[flat widget]

🤯

Neru sensei is very smart

[native ocean]

The problem likely will be the way how u aim with koharu

But it's fine as far as it's heal the most important unit

BYosh

U can let the rest back to Heli

[flat widget]

I just wanna ask, can serina one shot heal the pilar? because my serina can't I'll just invest more on her then

[native ocean]

ow, mine can

[flat widget]

3771 3 star 118 serina

[native ocean]

heal problem hm

[flat widget]

Yeah that is why I used so many healers

[native ocean]

double heal is not optimal

for pillar alone i mean

[flat widget]

Humu humu

[native ocean]

well it's doable tho

no atsuko / o.shig?

[flat widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1096596435149000724.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=hifumimuri

I don't have them

[native ocean]

can ur koharu heal pillar alone?

[flat widget]

I'll try that right now, IIRC I can't but I want to check it

[native ocean]

cuz if it can, u can just swap out either hanako or serina

[flat widget]

37x7 Koharu 118

[native ocean]

ow.. why ur healer are low

[flat widget]

I've just unlocked her last week

and here I'm planning to pull Kokona as well

[native ocean]

well, goodluck

[zinc rock]

serina can heal 28k if u can improve her to 57M1 not counting the bonus healing from ur other unit
that enough for the first pillar before thunder (~26k) might be enough after thunder too but if not just heal it again?

[flat widget]

My only motivation to get a little bit higher FoS floor is because I want to do gregorius torment, I want to build my own D Hina

[native ocean]

ew greg

[flat widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1232833868747505725.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[zinc rock]

I dont think ur unit will survive greg torment

[native ocean]

well the near greg is in 6months anyway

[flat widget]

I'm pretty sure I'll be lvl max on greg tor and I saved 6,9k eligma for them

[zinc rock]

right that actually plenty of time

[flat widget]

Yeah

I see a chance to compete.... Where can I find another one pan high score

Oh no💀 it's almost 1 am already, I'm very sorry Neru sensei, but I have to
Because I have to go tomorrow 7 am in the morning

[native ocean]

g'night

[thick cave]

HMM

i think i will not continue floor 50

only manage at floor 45
i will be better next time

time to recharge the phone

[native ocean]

! f50

[stoic glen]

How do you get enough HP on Yoshimi to survive floor 90?

[spark epoch]

Blonde power

[spark epoch]

Heal and shield her promptly.

[native ocean]

yea, either shield or heal mid atk

also atk down

[dire bane]

hanako ex mid burst timings is an option

[lean lark]

lost, I am

I need to be guided

[lean lark]

I am very much dependent

[zinc rock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBhnKI4VWHc&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtF44OqJ1Zr4e1eBnVF2yLp2&index=43

[lean lark]

issue: I lack s.roko

[zinc rock]

probably still doable with haruka

[spark epoch]

No no no, no S. Shiroko is never an issue to clear F100. #🗼final-restriction-release message

[lean lark]

true, but maybe I don’t have the units they have/invested on

say s.shizuko being 3*

[spark epoch]

What are the issues you have encountered, survivability or DPS issues?

[lean lark]

dps issues

[spark epoch]

S. Shizuko at 3-star is 75% of S. Eimi in terms of shield strength. With Hanako instead of O. Shigure, it generally doesn't count.

[spark epoch]

How much damage is lacking?

[lean lark]

half.

likely because I was using a different team

[spark epoch]

Oh well, I guess one of your sub DPS is getting ATK-downed.

[lean lark]

that would be dina

yes

[spark epoch]

Your position is problematic. Try switching the positions of D. Ako and D. Hina.

[lean lark]

that brings another problem:
out of hoshino’s range

[spark epoch]

I haven't experimented with your positioning, but S. Hoshino's range is quite wide. At least my Position 1 S. Hoshino can reach Position 4 B. Yoshimi. You can experiment with positioning a bit.

My D. Hina can deal ~20M damage on F100, so you don't want her to be ATK-downed.

[lean lark]

likely yeah

but you also need them to be repos to heal more at once

[spark epoch]

But that still doesn't make sense if you are lacking half of the HP. Is B. Yoshimi sufficiently buffed?

[lean lark]

simple answer: no

I just don’t know the timings at all honestly

[spark epoch]

If I were you, I would place S. Hoshino at Position 1 and heal the rest of the girls with Hanako. S. Hoshino is quite durable.

[lean lark]

would it really be fine to ditch ako out of potential damage?

[spark epoch]

D. Ako's buff is very potent and essential to the DPS.

[zinc rock]

this positioning work

[spark epoch]

Yes, this is also the positioning I'm using for the strikers.

[lean lark]

wacky

just in range

[zinc rock]

they are all in range, they are in white

hanako can heal eveyrone if u ignore hosh

[spark epoch]

Yes, Hanako can heal everyone except S. Hoshino.

[lean lark]

well it’s do-able, only question is timings, I could time the heals, but the buff is questionable

[zinc rock]

from my experience you only need to yoshimi 2 time and then one last time after the spear, the rest is just cycling kotama/Dako every 30s

maybe Kanon know more about that he the pro

[lean lark]

[zinc rock]

Just look at this for reference, it probably help for timings

[lean lark]

will do

for now i’ll get my rest

attempt tomorrow

[spark epoch]

I usually Yoshimi 3 times (4:06, 3:07, 2:20) before the spear, and one last time during or after the spear. I have seen some malders having to run Yoshimi 4 times before the spear on some very high floors.

If you have S. Shiroko, Himari, or even NY Haruka for cost regen, 4x B. Yoshimi EX before the spear is usually optimal and viable.
Without cost regen, I am skipping a round of B. Yoshimi EX during ATG3 in order to survive.

[lusty ginkgo]

Any suggestions for a more efficient D.Hina comp for lvl. 74?

[zinc rock]

This is crazy and also why I stay at 97

[zinc rock]

change himari for kotama you have 2 cost regen

[spark epoch]

Perhaps you missed one more round of B. Yoshimi's EX, therefore lacking DPS?

[zinc rock]

I never tried higher than 97 and im not gonna try I run 2 DPS with 3star BKazusa and its too much work trying to go over 97

[zinc rock]

honestly I think u should just borrow a BYoshimi and drop the SShiroko after reflection

[spark epoch]

Perhaps F99, even F100, is doable if you can minimise B. Yoshimi's downtime of her EX. My Yoshimi can only deal ~69M damage due to massive under-buffing during ATG3. Many people can have their Yoshimi deal 80M+ damage with a sufficiently buffed B. Yoshimi.

[zinc rock]

Its prob doable but I'm satisfied with 97 I only want the mats

[spark epoch]

It is okay! I've lost too much hair malding past F97.

[boreal atlas]

[normal holly]

dont use aru i think u should borrow byoshimi
and instead of ako himari use nagisa and kotama

[lusty ginkgo]

I don't have Nagisa and B.Yoshimi

I think I'll just go with the first option

[runic hull]

Finally F55 cleared

How I can clear higher floor (f60) with these teams?

[native ocean]

By um

Doing better rotation?

[native ocean]

Do u have Ako/Himari/SRocco?

How bout Xerina/SNom/BKazusa?

or invested B.Airi

[torpid basin]

why x serina?

[native ocean]

basic

Should be better than conflicted Azusa basic?

[chrome chasm]

4:28

[torpid basin]

oh that's true

[chrome chasm]

[native ocean]

Cuz u know f60 is enough with just this

[chrome chasm]

did you pop balls?

[torpid basin]

yea but team can be improved

[native ocean]

Im lacking 14mil with solo BYosh

[torpid basin]

but the healing looks rough

3* hanako

[native ocean]

I wonder if 3rd t9 gear will save her

solo f60

[torpid basin]

the UE30+ kokona is putting in some serious work

[native ocean]

Oh my dumb

Didn't see that

Should be free then

[regal arrow]

can bairi replace byoshimi?

[shy moon]

no

she deals significantly less damage

[lean lark]

good morning chat

[native ocean]

good evening

[lean lark]

fuq

I didnt buff byoshimi after explosion by a bit

[native ocean]

[lean lark]

@zinc rock @spark epoch
I DID IT

I THANK THEE BOTH

[spark epoch]

That's great! Congrats!

[lean lark]

time to max ny haruka once I get the money and mats

[tardy fractal]

Would snonomi or dhina be better alongside byoshimi as DPS?

[spark epoch]

Generally only the sub-skill makes a difference for the Fury of Set. NY Haruka's EX + basic only give ~2.6% boost in damage dealt when maxed, and it's a 4-cost EX.
That being said, feel free to build her, seeing you are a Haruka fan. It's good to build the girl you like!

[spark epoch]

They are sub-DPS and red orb poppers. You have to bring one of them unless you are running Nagisa + S. Shiroko to pop the red orb.

[crude kiln]

[tardy fractal]

That's why I'm asking which is better since I need a space for tyuuka else my team dies after 3min

Or would replacing minori with sshizuko be better?

[crude kiln]

Just use Hanako

[lean lark]

ah no, not for that reason

I like haruka

[tardy fractal]

Can't cycle fast enough with her alone

[native ocean]

SNom if u ever use her EX

[crude kiln]

T. Yuuka is terrible for set because she only give shields to 3 students and herself

[native ocean]

If not, just anyone with more invest

[tardy fractal]

Especially if I use 2 6 cost units on top of byoshimi 10 cost

[spark epoch]

If both D. Hina and S. Nonomi are UE40+, I would go for S. Nonomi.

[native ocean]

Wait i reply wrong

[tardy fractal]

I think my dhina is ue40 snonomi ue30

[native ocean]

My bad

[tardy fractal]

I forgot if I had enough to up her to ue40 yet or not

[spark epoch]

I fully understand! That's why I said feel free to build the girl you like.

[lean lark]

next season fs ill build the good units

[tardy fractal]

Nvm both are ue40

[crude kiln]

Hina is cuter

[lean lark]

ig s.nonomi would be better?

[tardy fractal]

Then who else can I use to help my team survive

[lean lark]

kaede

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-kaede-wave-hi-gif-8996773437167161448

[tardy fractal]

Lvl1

I don't use her

[crude kiln]

If you have O. Shigure pair her with Hanako

[tardy fractal]

I don't, that's why Im using Hanako to begin with

[crude kiln]

Well, use Kaede then

What floor are you on?

[tardy fractal]

F87

[crude kiln]

I used Kaede until floor 87 until I give up because O. Shigure's sub is waay better

Lol yeah just use Kaede

[tardy fractal]

I don't have oshigure

[crude kiln]

Kaede's sub pretty nice for the band's survivability

They have infuriatingly low hp

[tardy fractal]

She gon be 3* tho will she survive

[crude kiln]

Kaede? Definitely will

I'm definitely failing to clear 105

The gap is so wide compared to 103-104

[tardy fractal]

Honestly, if I have to save snonomi ex skill for red orb, wouldn't she lose a lot of dps

Since the red orb spawns like once a min right?

[crude kiln]

S.nonomi get AA buff after her ex

So it's worth to use

[tardy fractal]

Only for a bit

[crude kiln]

But deadly

[tardy fractal]

I mean all the downtime for when I'm waiting for the next red orb

Her AA buff doesn't last more than 30s iirc

[crude kiln]

Well what are your other options for red orb popper

[tardy fractal]

Dhina

[crude kiln]

Yeah use her

[tardy fractal]

Minori as well ig

[crude kiln]

She's cute

[tardy fractal]

Based

[spark epoch]

Roughly. Altogether 5 times in a battle.

[tardy fractal]

Dhina would probably do better dps wise then, and her ex is easier to time

[crude kiln]

Also she's cute

Floor 102 run that i did today

[spark epoch]

It's a trade-off. D. Hina is more straightforward to time but requires you to aim. S. Nonomi is basically like Sakurako in the blue Set. Also, S. Nonomi provides an attack speed buff.

[spark epoch]

5 times Yoshimi EX in a battle... I had to skip one during ATG3 to survive, thus not enough DPS for F102.

[crude kiln]

That's not even my optimal run, Yoshimi has some downtime in ATG3, I managed to keep all buffs active without downtime in my 101 run

I can send the clip here if needed

[spark epoch]

Yes, I noticed the downtime.
I still cannot find a way to slot in a Yoshimi EX during ATG3 (no S. Shiroko no Himari), which results in a whopping ~40s Yoshimi downtime.

I do have a clip of my F100 run. I virtually spent all of the ATG3 shielding and healing for survival.

[crude kiln]

Who are your side DPS-es?

[spark epoch]

UE30 B. Kazusa and UE40 D. Hina

[crude kiln]

Does S. Eimi work better compared to Hanako?

She's a shielder right

Iirc

Ahhhh

Her sub is good

[spark epoch]

I cannot compare because my Hanako is somewhat underinvested (UE30 3447).

[spark epoch]

Yes she's a shielder.

[spark epoch]

And attack speed buffer on sub and basic.

[thick cave]

curse your luck

[crude kiln]

Yeah I'd definitely use her if I had her

Shielders are way easier to use

I was using Kaede but I really need that crit dmg buff from O. Shigure

[spark epoch]

Yeah. And the attack speed buffs boost DPS significantly. Imagine one more Yoshimi basic because of more attack speed.

[crude kiln]

Yoshimi basic always saved me in the end

I wonder if she's usable outside of FoS

[spark epoch]

And my F100 run wouldn't be possible without a repo & shielder.

[spark epoch]

Perhaps Goz and ShiroKuro?

[crude kiln]

I think Wakamo hovercraft GA

[spark epoch]

And Shiroko Terror will also benefit from attack speed, although she will mostly be used with NY Kayoko or NY Akari.

[spark epoch]

I was using S. Eimi for P2 in the last Hovercraft TA.

[sly glade]

I've brute forced my way through 50. but can someone tell me how to actually do this event?

[crude kiln]

I mean Yoshimi tho

[sly glade]

i have no idea what the pillars are, the lightning gauge on top

[spark epoch]

Ahhhhh, sorry. I was still thinking about S. Eimi.

[sly glade]

the only thing I know is that AA is the important thing

[crude kiln]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nHWGKKoxKaId2755yCr2FOnmQZwjQ4FxoBsYlLGLmOw/edit?usp=sharing

[sly glade]

bless

[spark epoch]

I'm gonna bring B. Yoshimi to the upcoming Hiero and see how it goes.
B. Yoshimi should see good use in Hovercraft GA, yes.

[crude kiln]

I'll be doing that too

I think I overinvested with the FoS units

[spark epoch]

Me, too.

She's even my only UE50 at the moment.

[crude kiln]

Based

My Hina was my first UE50

[spark epoch]

It is always good judgment to UE50 the girl you like.

[tardy fractal]

Would byoshimi ue30 to ue50 be able to do an extra 20m DMG
I used my only ue50 borrow and now am left with borrows that are ue30 and below

[crude kiln]

Are you in NA server?

[tardy fractal]

Asia

[crude kiln]

I highly doubt UE30 yoshimi is sufficient on higher floors

[tardy fractal]

exactly thats why i cant clear f87
actually im not sure if i will be able to even with ue50

i dont have bkazusa since i didnt pull for band

[uncut panther]

Yeah, it's unlikely clear f87 with ue30

Even I barely clear f87 with ue40 b.yoshimi with no b.kazusa

[merry thunder]

OMFG FINALLY!!!
3 star Dako, zero UE50s except borrow
Genuinely took like a billion retries and re-adjustments
(Yet I still messed up kokona heal onto Atsuko instead of pillar on this run so Dako Shoshi got lightning debuffed once 😭 )

[runic hull]

I don't have himari, s shiroko, b kazusa

[regal rune]

Once Kuroko hits the scene, for blue Set should I use Kuroko with SIzuna as my second DPS or Sakurako?

[merry thunder]

chat how screwed am I for floor 99 with 4* Atsuko and 3* O.Shigure and no B.Kazusa 💀

[torpid basin]

It’s possible

[split kiln]

f104 full band clear

[gleaming heath]

investments?

[gleaming heath]

maxed yoshimi

Gonna put UE40 on Kazoos and Airi but 2500 into Yoshimi, I can't lmao

[split kiln]

That's ue50 airi you know
oh i forgot to update her skill she is quad M

[gleaming heath]

I have like 70k of those event calendar things to burn up, surely that should get me to UE30 Airi, the rest is cheap

[split kiln]

70k is only ~230 airi eleph

unless you are at 3* already that's 100 short to ue30

[spark epoch]

UE50 B.Airi

Also impressive Hanako is able to solo heal on F104.

[split kiln]

I like her ok my og airi is b42

Also dako actually died early but they have enough dmg so it's fine

[spark epoch]

The power of love.

[spark epoch]

I guess you can clear even higher floors, provided survivability isn't an issue.

[split kiln]

I'm doing different team for 105 I think
This team barely survive 104, 105 will kill it

[lean lark]

in case anyone wondered what was the investment on floor 97 with this build

[merry thunder]

Hanako solo healing floor 104 and I had to bring Atsuko and O.Shigure to not die on floor 74

[dusk sail]

hey im using himari and kotama on the same team (himari because i don't have s shiroko yet)
i was wondering i should try to buff dps with himari and go for extra damage or just using kotama for damage buffs and making sure she does not run out, i can't keep track of things well and i feel like my dps is often without a damage buff because himari runs out and i don't reuse her/kotama afterwards

also how much would band kazusa help me in the fight? i have her but not using her and i'd go even more broke trying to build her

[spark epoch]

Wow, five UE50 plus a borrowed UE50. I think you can do F100.

[spark epoch]

One strategy is to Himari on B. Yoshimi ~17s after Kotama everybody, because Himari overwrites Kotama's ATK buff. You can also just use Himari for cost regen and only use Himari's EX on B. Yoshimi during the groggy.

[spark epoch]

My UE30 B. Kazusa can deal roughly the same amount of damage as a UE40 D. Hina.

[dusk sail]

im very poor

the most i could do is get her ex skill to 5 after buying a ton of things from shops

[spark epoch]

Do you have S. Nonomi?

[dusk sail]

i don't

[spark epoch]

Also what floor are you aiming at?

[dusk sail]

this is the unit i have

highest clear is 74

[spark epoch]

This is a valid double DPS team. Although NY Fuuka is a bit debatable. Her EX conflict with D. Ako.

[dusk sail]

how come?

[fading turret]

quick question, would 3* byosh be better than dhina?

at ue40

[spark epoch]

They both buff Crit DMG. D. Ako also buffs Crit, though.

[dusk sail]

i just use fuuka to reduce cost on yoshimi

i don't have much of a choice

i could bring normal ako

[spark epoch]

It should, but I'm not sure because I can't test. In my setup, a UE50 B. Yoshimi deals 350% damage of a UE40 D. Hina on F100.

[fading turret]

hm, ok

im asking cuz im looking to run a bkaz and byosh setup

instead of byosh and dhina

[spark epoch]

You can do this if you don't have a better choice. Your team should be able do F75+.

[spark epoch]

So you are using Nagisa + S. Shiroko to pop the orb?

[dusk sail]

would normal ako be better because healing and passive cdmg buff

[merry thunder]

ako also conflicts with d.ako

I guess it's alright if you use Ako later on your main DPS but eh

[fading turret]

ya

[spark epoch]

You can experiment a bit and see how it goes. But also be aware of the conflicted buffs.

[merry thunder]

also Ako's buff is very short

Kotama and D.Ako both last 30 seconds

Ako is 16

[dusk sail]

misinformation

[merry thunder]

Hobbies: Hina

[fading turret]

wait that isnt an edit

her hobby really is hina:??

[merry thunder]

yes

[spark epoch]

Yes, it is.

[merry thunder]

unfortunately Hina is too busy dealing with Makoto's bullshit

[fading turret]

what could this imply

hobbies are often something we do in our free time,...

[merry thunder]

well Ako has no free time

[lean lark]

I dont have the balls

too precise

[spark epoch]

~~Ako can start behaving like Makoto so that Hina would spend most of her time on her. ~~

[spark epoch]

~~Buy them from the shop. ~~

[radiant canopy]

i messed up the rotation towards the end (used kotama before skawa) so i had to improvise but i got it anyway lmao

i thought for sure they'd die because i used skawa too late but turns out that wasnt the case

[native ocean]

it's not luck, pure skill

[native ocean]

if ur Hanako has bondgear 2, u might want to swap out serina. if she is not, actually serina alone might be enough to do healer job since kokona also there (and it's just f60). If u have either Xerina/S.Nonomi/B.Airi invested, they can help better than Azusa i think since Azusa defdown conflict with D.Ako (S.Nom u can skip her Ex use, B.Airi u can use her ex since it just 2cost, it will increase B.Yosh dmg a bit due-to related sugar rush thing, Xerina also no need to cast her skill she likely there as basic buffer). Also u might want to swap ny.fuuka with ako and just buff B.Yosh anytime it's available or when she about to do her basic

[regal rune]

I forgot, generally, when does Sakurako want to use her ex

For blue

[split kiln]

Every 35s or so

[native ocean]

about the red orb, if the s.nom enough to break then u can use it. if not, then using d.hina is okay. if u don't have anyone on the list above then it's okay to remain the team and just use azusa to break

[split kiln]

Basically when her Augmented AA about to run out you should refresh it
Which last 30s but her AA animation is long so you need to account for that

[regal rune]

On the boss and not the red orb yeah

Might be trying f99 but I’m still a little skeptical.

[split kiln]

Either way is fine but if you have other orb breaker its better to use it on boss

[regal rune]

Typically that’s my SIzuna

I’m at least doing 74 if not 99

Hopefully

Since I’ve unbricked by having Kokona now

I just dunno if for f99

Do I wanna drop SHosh for Atsuko

[lean lark]

you could drop kokona for atsuko

at least thats what I saw

[regal rune]

That sounds a bit too risky given my Atsuko is only 4*

[lean lark]

checks out

[regal rune]

That’s probably a UE40 Atsuko

So I’ll just stick with this

Hopefully it has enough survival

Not needing to fit 10 cost BYosh like in red should help tho

[radiant canopy]

tbh kokona is the last student i'd swap out

she's crazy useful here

you save 9 cost every time she procs

and she can easily heal the relic (atsuko needs several ticks to fully heal it depending on its health, so you need to time it accordingly)

[radiant canopy]

it's what i've seen most people do

or you can do what i did and replace d.ako with atsuko and then use ako+himari to hyperbuff sakurako

instead of d.ako and kotama

[sick tulip]

I don’t remember exactly, but the EX animation has something like 6-7 seconds of duration, and she gains the buff at the end of that animation.

[regal rune]

Hm.

[sick tulip]

When using NY.Akari, my experience was that she would almost always reload (or basic then reload) just in time to cancel it with EX

[regal rune]

I see

[sick tulip]

Is it a dps gain to use S.Nonomi’s EX on the boss to augment her AA?

[zinc rock]

When she is reloading

[native ocean]

I think it's the same way u are using Sakurako on boss no

[torpid basin]

For the buff yea it’s worth

[sick tulip]

I posted in the wrong channel a moment ago, but this is where I’m up to.

Trying to figure out where I’m dropping damage, other than the B.Kazusa UE

[lean lark]

dont think your dropping off

one of the three units are not in the aoe

[sick tulip]

What do you mean?

[zenith topaz]

Between our damage numbers, a UE40 Kazusa might get you an additional 7-8M

Mine is maxed outside of going UE50

[sick tulip]

With an identical rotation, it’s probably closer to 7M, after the 5 level damage penalty.

[native ocean]

https://youtu.be/aASWjA_kxSc?si=hnqCgXB45b_YASAc

[sick tulip]

I’m obviously messing up something else rotationally as well

[crude kiln]

You know that the recommended level is 100 in 105, right? There'll be a stat penalty on your students when you're below the recommended level

[native ocean]

It use u50 bkat yea

[crude kiln]

104 recommended level is 95

[sick tulip]

The UE40 Kaede here is another critical point of difference, from what I can tell. I’m considering that upgrade too, but…

[crude kiln]

So the gap between 104 and 105 is pretty significant

[sick tulip]

I’m more likely to do one or the other

And I know that the Kazusa upgrade should be possible - The mystery is how

[zenith topaz]

UE50 B.Kazusa has a mood bonus for outdoor.

[torpid basin]

Are you short on eligma?

[sick tulip]

Not necessarily “short”, …thanks only to a matter of perspective…?

[spark epoch]

B. Kazusa 3-star to UE30 should theoretically be about ~35% more DPS. UE30 to UE40 should be like ~19%.

[sick tulip]

I’ll have to check that video again after for the buff uptime differences

[zenith topaz]

Almost 40m

So that might be your missing damage

[sick tulip]

Excluding the opening I’m about down about 15 secs of Kotama, 3-7 seconds of D.Ako, up to a minute cumulative of S.Shiroko. Last D.Ako basic is cut off by 5-8 seconds. And I’ve got one 1-stack B.Yoshimi basic where I should have a 5-stack.

Not certain whether a defensive approach that fixes all of those is the better play or not…?

[sick tulip]

I’m also not sure why S.Nonomi and B.Kazusa are swapped in this formation, compared to the F107 clear.

Does anybody have an idea why?

[spark epoch]

Not sure whether it has anything to do with the range of S. Nonomi's basic skill.

[sick tulip]

I’ll double check afterwards, but I think she reaches Kokona already from Pos2.

B.Kazusa EX doesn’t reach D.Ako from Pos2, whilst she does from Pos3, but could that be intentional??

It also swaps the order in which they take the chain lightning hit…?

Hmm… It does appear as though B.Kazusa UE50 is at least part of the solution…?

Do the B.Yoshimi numbers look appropriate?

Under 80M total is what’s making me suspicious of a major player-side error

[spark epoch]

The time delay shouldn't make much difference. It's very hard to time your healing ticks with that, after all.

[spark epoch]

Can B. Kazusa's EX reach S. Hoshino? Perhaps something to do with accumulate crits for Kokona?

If only one of D. Ako and S. Hoshino can get B. Kazusa's attack speed buff, then S. Hoshino is preferred. With D. Ako's EX, S. Hoshino is expected to land ~40 crit hits per minute, while D. Ako only ~25 crit hits.

[sick tulip]

B.Kazusa EX covers all except Kokona

Kotama also misses Kokona

S.Hoshino misses both D.Ako and Kokona

Um… what else…? I think left side Red orb usually misses Kokona too.

Oh, O.Shigure on left obelisk covers only Kokona, D.Ako, B.Yoshimi and the Pos3 MG. O.Shigure on right obelisk covers all except Kokona.

Kaede on left obelisk covers Kokona, D.Ako and B.Yoshimi. Kaede on right obelisk covers S.Hoshino, … and I think S.Nonomi+B.Kazusa? (Will double check that one later)

Oops, got to go. I’ll come back to this later.

[spark epoch]

Ah, then the positioning of S. Nonomi and B. Kazusa could be just... random?

[spark epoch]

But it is not a reposition strategy comp; the Kaede comp seldom uses O. Shigure to heal the strikers and a pillar at the same time, I reckon.

[thick cave]

hmph!

[sick tulip]

Oh, to be clear, if B.Kazusa is on Pos2, she will not reach the Pos5 D.Ako. She can only reach if she's on Pos3

I'm not certain as to how the team and obelisks are maintained in the final 90 seconds without O.Shigure's help... Unless there's some strategy that just eats the lightning strike into the team for the last 15 seconds?

The two MG users are not hit by the cage attack, so I still need to try covering the left obelisk with Kaede at the one minute mark to keep it inside one-shot range of Kokona. Every time I get there before now, I forget.

[wheat vector]

3 star o.shigure upgrade over ue50 hanako or she needs stars?

[native ocean]

they likely perform the same at same invest

atleast u40 o.shig

[spark epoch]

Kokona should be able to double-heal the left obelisk to full in an S. Shiroko team.
I guess you can leave the last lightning to the right obelisk, and only S. Hoshino gets the ATK-down.

Having O. Shigure heal the girls and an obelisk at the same time is only possible through repositioning.

[graceful iris]

Its all about timing skill,if not it is suffer

[tardy fractal]

finally managed to clear f87
could probably push to f90 but need to wait for ue50 byoshimi borrow to come back again

[native ocean]

T.Mari gaming

[regal rune]

nice to see her used so high, albeit i imagine Kaede helps a lot

[native ocean]

T.Mari likely used for the tower

But yea, interesting

[zinc bolt]

F100

[crude kiln]

I thought jp has chokmah right now?!

[left halo]

Thats traditional chinese bro

One of the languages you can use in global

[sly glade]

damn, how do I stop kokona from dying. is her being 4star 80 not enough for 67?

[foggy wasp]

need lvl 90 ig

[sly glade]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-sad-emoji-getting-disintegrated-into-dust-denigrating-denigrating-face-emoji-meme-lol-gif-27508363

fair enough : (

[sick tulip]

The double heal is the problem for me at the moment (vs a single EX). My current rotation forces Kokona EX to be used on the team at certain points to assist D.Ako/B.Kazusa/B.Yoshimi, so I’m falling behind the lightning pace, which isn’t good.

[lean lark]

I wonder, should I record the floor 97 clear I did with that wacky ahh team I did?

[sick tulip]

Can return to the obelisk on every second EX cycle, but there’s so much collateral damage during ATG3 that all the health from the first Kokona EX is depleted by the time I cycle around to the 3rd use.

[sick tulip]

Sure why not? There’s a dedicated video thread to archive it for whatever reason you’d like.

The formation lets O.Shigure heal the right side obelisk together with the whole team minus Kokona, but then, Kokona is unfortunately the only one whom she herself can’t heal sufficiently… I think?

The timing of when to swap from left obelisk to right obelisk taking hits is a little confounding for me to envision

I feel like there’s some creative O.Shigure/Kaede method to “hold” one of the obelisks at half HP whilst Kokona is preoccupied with healing the team…

[night kiln]

I could have sent you my timing skill. We have the same team

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1066655353158250548/1304748586659086367/image.png?ex=6731d6d0&is=67308550&hm=0b3f8010b87d59f30be60fd2e8eb9c983ffecc08de13c9627ed188a7dc5c173b&=&width=2452&height=1381

0.8 seconds faster

[graceful cradle]

anyone have a timestamp when to use hanako ex?

i cant time it

oh my lord

i have to loop heal continously 3 times for 1:30 1:10 and 0:45

how am i going to have enough cost sob

im going to have depression

[graceful cradle]

its been 1 hour

[native ocean]

Can't u use the shield for 0:45

[zenith topaz]

Don't have access to my computer, but timestamps are in the video https://youtu.be/4eiaZCpdXNw?si=EqMRgG7eUEw5wJRP

Don't use Yoshimi during the 3rd bar, cycle lower cost ex and healing during the specified timings until after team wipe.

[spark epoch]

You can reference a video they posted earlier #🗼final-restriction-release message
Or try cooking another rotation and try to sustain the girls with O. Shigure and Kaede, and double-heal the obelisk to full with some trial and error.

[split kiln]

105 clear!

[torpid basin]

[lean lark]

with 3 seconds to spare, assuming 106 doesn’t have more hp then you can basically do that too

[native ocean]

3s..

[split kiln]

Isn't 106 like 7m more hp

6.5m

Yeah no
Definitely not

[sick tulip]

It's tempting to match investments so I can get closer to this. This player is able to exclude one Kaede EX that I haven't managed. I suspect that I'll need to upgrade my B.Kazusa at the very least, but it's probably responsible to wait until after Blue Hiero to avoid overspending.

[sick tulip]

Congrats! Do you mind if I peek at your damage chart, please?

[split kiln]

sure

[sick tulip]

My B.Yoshimi damage is definitely falling short...

By at least two Visual Maker... Hmm....

[spark epoch]

Or do you have an S. Eimi? I was able to save some Kokona's EX by healing the troupe and the obelisk simultaneously with O. Shigure + repositioning.

[sick tulip]

I have her, but she's unbuilt at the moment, and quite a long way behind Kaede, unfortunately

Don't think I can get her raised even up to F104 levels before the end of the month

[spark epoch]

Ah, then perhaps go with the Kaede strategy for now.

[sick tulip]

If nothing else, Kaede must work, because there's clear data of people on JP doing it.

They're doing it at UE30 too, same as me. So it's possible, I'm just yet to figure out how.

[spark epoch]

BTW, a 3-star S. Eimi should be good even for F105+ if you can slot in three healing sticks from O. Shigure during an attack.

[spark epoch]

Yeah, it's better to figure out / optimise the strategy and rotation before making further investments.

[sick tulip]

I can't help but wonder if the F107 clear simply crit like mad in order to force out Kokona basic procs at the necessary pace.

There's a rotation where I'm almost exactly three cost short where I'm three cards away from Kaede, and Kokona is sitting on four stamps.

If everybody else pulls 100 extra crits out of thin air in a particular 30-second window, then I both survive and the buff uptime clicks in perfectly.

But in two hours of play it only happened once, and I fumbled the follow-up, of course...

Though err…

... I imagine I'd need to upgrade special students for a little more HP or something to go up to F106+ using that?

[spark epoch]

What about your B. Kazusa uptime? More ATK speed = more crits = more Kokona basic = faster Kokona sub = more rotation headspace

[sick tulip]

It's 'full' uptime at a glance, I ought to go through a recording frame-by-frame to check for whether I'm interrupting AA through exact EX timings.

If I'm reading her subskill correctly, does Kazusa land 15 hits per AA burst?

[spark epoch]

And/or perhaps compare your Kokona basic firings with some reference footage.

[spark epoch]

5 hits per AA.

[spark epoch]

plus sub perhaps, I'm not sure.

[sick tulip]

I'm expecting subskill to be x2 hits of 10.6% each, but it could be x1 hit of 20.12%? I haven't tested it rigidly

[spark epoch]

Let me test and inspect the recording.

[sick tulip]

My opening is also S.Hoshino->B.Kazusa; I haven't tried B.Kazusa->S.Hoshino yet.

It wouldn't be good if people crit too much though, there's a few places where Kokona would override Kaede's cost reduction if people crit too much too early

[split kiln]

Isn't it because your bkazu 3*

[sick tulip]

That too, haha...

[split kiln]

3* bkazu->your team do less dmg->you fill this charge slower

[sick tulip]

Oh... I forgot about this mechanic...

[split kiln]

Which in turn your team does even less dmg

[sick tulip]

That's a really good suggestion

How much damage is one full gauge, assuming no regeneration? And what's the regeneration rate? Do we know?

[split kiln]

I don't think we know

[spark epoch]

I don't know why, but somehow, I can count 9 hits from B. Kazusa when holding two stacks of sugar rush.

[split kiln]

Typical run deplete the gauge three times
The first two gauge I guess matter less but if you trigger the last one at like 0:15 that's 15s of buff wasted

[spark epoch]

And 5 hits without holding any sugar rush.

[sick tulip]

https://youtu.be/aASWjA_kxSc?t=229

You're right. I miss this blue orb right here.

The video's team can almost break even with the gauge regeneration on the vortex cast, but my team loses ground whenver he uses the move.

I'm at about 5% when he starts using the vortex at 01:37, and half the progress is erased. I never get that orb back.

[split kiln]

And that means no third orbs
That vid get third orbs at 30s left, full time of the buff

[sick tulip]

Yes. That's the answer. I see now.

You're so clever! Thank you!!

Tonight I'll back-calculate the damage I need from after I can afford to upgrade B.Kazusa, then I can hopefully fall back onto a more defensive rotation to fix the survival by consequence.

[split kiln]

As for why pos 2 bkazu
Isn't that because she doesn't hit shoshi from pos 3

Shoshi does more dmg than dako after all

Oh it reach shoshi

Who knows then

[spark epoch]

@sick tulip Sorry, it's 10 hits. That make sense. The sub seems to be x1 hit of 21.2% to me.

[boreal atlas]

[sick tulip]

Disappointing, but not unreasonable

[zenith lagoon]

Hey whats the insane equivalent of this game mode?

[tropic sky]

F74 I believe? That's the highest one with recommended level 80

[hushed sentinel]

Id say 74 is around ins difficulty (smth like hod~Greg insane, not binah insane)

and then f90+’range feels pretty torment

[zenith lagoon]

Hmmm I see. Thanks

If you use a borrow but failed a run, does that use up the borrowed unit or you can still use the same one again?

[hushed sentinel]

Fail Run doesn’t use up the borrow

[zenith lagoon]

Thanks again

[mighty pebble]

@faint bough no kok

[faint bough]

how does the obelisk just not blow up

[mighty pebble]

They do

He used repo to dodge the lightning iirc

[faint bough]

no like the additional two strikes on obelisk

Repo im aware i already kinda did that

Also they kicked kotama

[mighty pebble]

Yea, Atsuko eats it kilometer away from the team

[faint bough]

replacing kotama for nagi for more dps

this seems 👨‍🦲

oh sorry

nagi is a passive cdmg while kotama has to be applied w dako

hmm

more cost

[faint bough]

sorry there's less dps oops

[faint bough]

i didn't know you can cheese lightning like that

it seems possible if i ue'd bkat

the dps boost is needed to compensate

well im planning to selector kok anyway

but interesting what people cook up

Normally i need the shield to keep the team alive also

[regal rune]

Thoughts on dropping SHosh for Atsuko for f97?

For next blue Set I mean

[faint bough]

i think it was possible, just need to optimise dmg

[zenith lagoon]

How much does the lineup or "meta" change when we cycle back to blue set?

[regal rune]

NYKayo buffs are a lot more micromanaging to juggle

Compared to just upkeeping SHosh for BYoshimi

[shy moon]

ehhh

[zenith lagoon]

Do you know what changed from the first blue set to the next blue set on why NYkayo will be more micromanaging?

[shy moon]

nykayoko is just drop one on sakurako one on izuna

repeat

[regal rune]

Oh, no. Nothing, this next blue set has less HP afaik tho

[zenith lagoon]

But in terms of the units used will it be different to the first blue set?

[shy moon]

is it just the f<74 nerf?

[spark epoch]

The ultimate micromanaging is with Umika.

[regal rune]

No since no Kuroko yet

[zenith lagoon]

I see. Thanks!

[flat widget]

This is all I have, I need help with team building and positions. also, I'm planning to pull Kokona later

I want to reach f67... if possible

[lone girder]

not sure f67 is possible for you

[faint bough]

you can probably pull off a team like causew, with more relevant units like shosh and dhina

nagi also

byosh will have to do most of the dps if your level is too low

Dako usually subs tomoe also

[lone girder]

If the guy has a built Hanako lol

[faint bough]

should build her for set anyway

[flat widget]

If it's possible then I will

[lone girder]

What's that, 3* Hanako?

[flat widget]

[lone girder]

Yeah, goodluck. My alt's units were barely staying alive with ue40 oshig and 3* S. Eimi (ex 3)

[faint bough]

set is endgame content, so should prio raid requirements first

the rewards from set don't justify the materials required

[lone girder]

Yeah, just take your f50 clear (or 60) and sleep

[flat widget]

Okay then, I just want to get 1 talent 25 atk on D Hina, I don't know much I need to farm

Preparing for gregorius tor

[lone girder]

That's in 5 months lol

[flat widget]

Will I be able to get enough for 1

[lone girder]

Plenty of time

[flat widget]

Okay then

Hopefully I will have enough by the time it comes

[flat widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460042717607755776/1301971049117782046/1183759752283553802.gif

It's not like I will get the same score with HW right? Even if I clear it slower I'm still grateful

[sick thorn]

go bald to beat your HW score

[flat widget]

pray extra hard for crit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1299106339871785040/ezgif-4-b1ac1a182d.gif

[thorny fjord]

yay 99th floor clear

im going for 100th tmr after i can borrow b.yoshimi again

[merry thunder]

bye hair

[split kiln]

can't 106 😔

maybe season 4

[spark epoch]

It is certainly possible, if you can 4-star and at least M47M your Hanako.
I just did a quick test according to your roster, and could easily clear F67 with this team.
My Hanako is Lv.87 UE30 3477, so you may need to compensate for that with more skill upgrades.

[spark epoch]

Do you have S. Eimi or S. Nonomi by any chance? Replacing Hanako for S. Eimi, or D. Hina for S. Nonomi may be able to give you extra DPS because of the attack speed buffs.

[split kiln]

both 3* lvl 1

[spark epoch]

Then perhaps season 4.
Theoretically, S. Eimi should be usable at 3-star if you can slot in 3 healing ticks from O. Shigure during Bursting Radiance.
You still need level and skill upgrades, though.

[flat widget]

Thank you very much
I will try it tomorrow after I pull kokona and invest on Hanako

[spark epoch]

You're welcome.

[red vessel]

how does b.kazusa and b.yoshimi ex interact ?

[split kiln]

it stack

additively

[split kiln]

I have a lot of leftover mats and credit tbh
but don't want to

she was spook from band and I don't like building unit outside of my plan

[spark epoch]

Just follow your plan!

[spark epoch]

Actually, that team is even able to clear F74.

[flat widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460042717607755776/1301971049117782046/1183759752283553802.gif

ssg Kanon, dies from skill issue

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1146374131101749300.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=YoshimiDissolve

[red vessel]

what is the next boss after light armor ?

[flat widget]

How about the other students, I want to know their investment (I can give them all t9 gears for more crit) but I hope I can min max my investment

And... Perhaps... If you have a clear video because me skill issue

[torpid basin]

Set again. But back to blue

[red vessel]

blue is hard ...

[flat widget]

Yeah

[red vessel]

do we get fest banner during blue set or is it after ?

[spark epoch]

Thanks. Actually, it's just that practice makes perfect, and Yoshimi is too strong.

[spark epoch]

As a reference, the team I am running for the test is:

S. Hoshino, Lv.90, UE40, M77M, T8T8T8
D. Hina, Lv.90, UE40, MMM7, T9T7T8
B. Yoshimi, Lv.90, UE50, MMMM, T9T9T8
D. Ako, Lv.90, 4-star, M774, T9T9T7
Tsubaki, Lv.84, 4-star, 1441, T6T7T5
Kokona, Lv.90, UE30, M7M7, T8T9T8

Serina, Lv.84, UE30, 3441, T4T2T5
Hanako, Lv.87, UE30, 3477, T2T2T8
Kotama, Lv.67, 3-star, M117, T4T2T2
Nagisa, Lv.90, 3-star, MM7M, T8T8T7

[flat widget]

Thank you

[spark epoch]

Unfortunately, I didn't record my run previously. I can record a run later, but the rotation is unlikely to be very optimised. I was mainly improvising.

[flat widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1251953184344379392.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[flat widget]

I see

I already tried but my team from lightning strike

[celest spindle]

[crude wyvern]

Any way I could improve this team comp?

Cherino and Himari are pretty much there solely for cost regen they’re not doing much else rn

[torpid basin]

you can put in a dps or healer

ideal options would be s nonomi or atsuko

[native ocean]

B.Airi / S.Iori

[jaunty temple]

left it to fairly last minute but got my f100 clear

[radiant canopy]

probably not my brightest idea to use a rotation that assumes T9 watches exist

[verbal edge]

did floor 80, !
Saori for some reason got the strike debuff, making the timing in destroying the spheres inconsistent, but I still didi it

[radiant canopy]

i think i'll slack in f104

[split kiln]

Eh survivability shouldn't matter its just not enough dmg

[radiant canopy]

yeah thats mostly what i mean

and my kokona procs are all over the place because of it

im like 20 mil off in that screenshot lmao

[split kiln]

That's controllable to an extend
Tho it always left 6m hp at the end

[radiant canopy]

yeah my damage output went down once my timings got all messed up

this is what i get for not building snono

[split kiln]

Oops wrong link

[radiant canopy]

#unknown

my favorite channel

[split kiln]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1222533648478376056/1305617840774189076/image.png?ex=6733aede&is=67325d5e&hm=0014ff2203ae8c2515bd1171e2ec98099e0b6a80b3821b4717b5d5d401f9e97d&

[radiant canopy]

oh you tried that too?

[split kiln]

My best try so far
Kokona proc at the right time its just not enough dmg

[radiant canopy]

yeah it might not be possible with this comp

[split kiln]

Tho I cleared 105 if you want to do that

[radiant canopy]

with this team?

[split kiln]

Here

[radiant canopy]

i'll try

damn, is the difference between 105 and 106 that big?

[split kiln]

Its 6.5m hp

I was surprised too like wtf why is 106 so much more hp

[radiant canopy]

wtf

thats crazy

is 106 still the highest floor we've cleared so far on global?

i know it is on EU

iirc on JP the highest was F109

[lean lark]

not 110?

[split kiln]

I think 106 possible with ue50 bkazu
I low roll byosh on that 6.2m run she only does 80m, I've seen her do 82m

[radiant canopy]

isnt 110 already 105 level difference

[split kiln]

And sunglass bkazu would make up the 4m left
But 900 eligma too expensive 😔

[lean lark]

then dako?

[split kiln]

NA and KR have 108
Idk about 109

[lean lark]

or maybe s.nonomi?

[split kiln]

Dako only does ~3m on my team
UE ing her won't add much dmg
No I'm not upgrading my snono

[lean lark]

cuz she has defense piercing no?

[lean lark]

only hypothetical anyways

[split kiln]

Then dako won't matter
Same comp with snono instead of dhina will clear yes

[radiant canopy]

wait, is your b.kazusa ue40?

or ue30?

[split kiln]

She is ue40 yea

[radiant canopy]

rip

mine is ue30

[split kiln]

Yeah doubt that work I have 3s left

😔

[radiant canopy]

i slacc then

[lean lark]

I slack at 3*

[radiant canopy]

[lean lark]

https://tenor.com/view/aomori-mine-mine-aomori-mine-blue-archive-blue-archive-mine-blue-archive-gif-27378564

[radiant canopy]

nah that one is 3*

her ex animation looks so goofy

[spark epoch]

Thinker cleared F109 on NA.
He was running the S. Nonomi, S. Eimi, and O. Shigure comp.

[sick tulip]

This appears to be the case in Asia server.

Looking closely, however, I now realise that F106 has a purple gift box as a reward, so that might be motivating a certain type of behaviour.

Far less clears are recorded for F105 than F106, so some people must be jumping straight there, and then also choosing to stop even if it's possible for them to go further

[split kiln]

only 2 clear on 105

😔

and then me can't do 106 after 105

[uncut panther]

F97 clear...

Can't believe I clear it with this ridiculous team

[radiant canopy]

we'll be stronger next time

[graceful cradle]

I DID IT

I DID IT

ITS BEEN 10 YEARS

(f90 btw)

[thorny fjord]

Yay 100th floor

[cold minnow]

I sometimes wonder how do you only bring 2 healers and live

[thorny fjord]

timings

[uncut panther]

Yeah, it's about timing and cost management...

[tawny vine]

shun for FoS, yay or nay?

[spark epoch]

Nay. Even for <F50, her attack speed is too slow.

[tawny vine]

so she's only for pvp

k

[cold minnow]

Does 3* 998 b kazu survibe f100?

Maybe ill just heal with s hanako instead o shig

[rugged zephyr]

yes

[crude kiln]

floor 93 with migudayo

[graceful cradle]

i wish for miku rerun

😭

[hushed sentinel]

I want more collab

[cold minnow]

3* b kazu didnt survive

Bruj

Too much rotation for 2:00 till 1:00

And still 44m hp left..

[normal holly]

lesgooo

f59

[peak mantle]

I probably need a better team

Tbf
I'm using hina dress instead of yoshimi cause i do not own one

[lunar citrus]

Floor 50

[peak mantle]

Bro it took me 4:23 mins 💀

My team is so ahh

[native ocean]

What team

F50 is just

[celest spindle]

Yes she can survive

[cold minnow]

Mine died

Always

[celest spindle]

Timing issue

I only use kokona and hanako for heal

[cold minnow]

Bruh idk what you do on minute 2:00 till 1:00

It felt like i needed 3 hanako heals

[lone girder]

you need 4

[cold minnow]

How do you even manage to get full heal tower

[celest spindle]

The lighting cage atk you can delay heal a bit
but for the lighting rain and vortex, your unit need above 70~80% hp else you gonna die

[celest spindle]

Its doesn't matter, your unit don't get hit by the right tower AoE Atk debuff either

Just heal the left ones before the 3rd strike

Before i run bKat 3* 5777 595, i fail mostly cus she just died before groggy (lighting rain atk) enough so i lack ~7m hp

[cold minnow]

But under 1 min if you didnt full heal either tower you get one in the middle

[celest spindle]

for the middle lighting, if your kokona can't heal then use hanako on it, you should have plenty cost after the final atk

the last atk debuff is on 00:20
the last hanako EX used on ~00:49

[native ocean]

it won't go either middle or right side if u keep removing the mark on left tower

[cold minnow]

[celest spindle]

he mean his kokona can't heal pillar when Set in ATG3 (that damn lighting cage)
so i tell him just heal its before the middle striker after the Final Atk

cus the left and right strike doesn't hit the core dps, only the middle ones

[spark epoch]

2M of HP short for F101.

I should've upgraded Kotama's sub.

Or S. Eimi's basic.

Damage graph:

[peak mantle]

How do i do without yoshimi 😭

[wet current]

Why final blue again man.... heavy where are you!!!

[peak mantle]

Wait- isn't||chockmar|| on jp rn ? Why are you doing fury of set

[pearl edge]

that is TW server

[late lily]

It’s NA LMAO

You know the game has language settings, right

[sly notch]

Yoshimi doing numbers?!

[tawny dragon]

https://x.com/EN_BlueArchive/status/1856955223421718974

BlueArchive (@EN_BlueArchive) on X

[Final Restriction Release Opening Notice]

Final Restriction Release: The Fury of Set (Defense Type: Special Armor) begins on 11/20 (Wed) at 2:00 AM (UTC)!

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#BlueArchive

Twitter · Nov 14, 2024, 7:00 AM

[tardy fractal]

I thought pulling for would make f90 easier but instead my 3* kaede just aint gonna keep my team alive without tmari healing support

[celest spindle]

If you have healing issue at f90 with 2 healer and shielder, f100+ gonna be a wild drive for u

[tardy fractal]

Forget healing, my DPS ain't even gonna be able to deal enough DMG

[cold minnow]

Wym

[spark epoch]

Borrow one.

[spark epoch]

I am missing a round of Yoshimi EX during ATG3 due to a lack of cost regeneration, so it is not the most optimal number.

[sly notch]

Noted, makes a lot more sense given that

[gentle zinc]

So dang close

But we secure it for this month

[zenith topaz]

Quick question, between the A.Speed buffs from NY.Akari, S.Eimi and B.Kazusa? Which ones are the same type/cancels?

[cunning linden]

s.eimi conflicts with b.kazu

ny.akari stacks with either

[zenith topaz]

Perfect. Ty for the info

[sick tulip]

They should all stack.

B.Kazusa has EX / Targeted
S.Eimi is Basic / Targeted and also Sub / All
NY.Akari is Passive / Aura

Wait, hold on

Okay, corrected now, I think it's like this.

[zenith topaz]

Got it. Thanks mate!

[cunning linden]

o right seimi is on basic oops

its atk thats on the ex

[spark epoch]

Generally, the only ATK speed buff conflict you should note is S. Nonomi's basic and S. Eimi's basic.

[sturdy crag]

Is it possible to clear 50-74 with this team?

[chrome parrot]

theres not enough AA dps in the team. u trying to do a no borrow clear?

[sturdy crag]

Not really

I built that team based on recommendations
Still managed to beat 50f

[chrome parrot]

ye u can still clear the lower end of 50-74

but the higher end ur most likely not gonna have enough dps

[sturdy crag]

If so, who should i bring

[chrome parrot]

byoshimi would be ideal

[sick tulip]

B.Yoshimi subskill is not affected by Sugar Rush stacks, right?

[turbid urchin]

Let's GOOO

[chrome parrot]

ye it shouldnt be

[crude kiln]

Is the next FoS blue going to be the same as the previous one or there are newer students for it?

[celest spindle]

untill kuroko banner, it pretty much the same

[desert cave]

ok i can sleep

[crude kiln]

Is it true that the next blue is nerfed?

[celest spindle]

yes

[crude kiln]

What exactly is nerfed? HP?

[celest spindle]

thing like that

[crude kiln]

Thanks!

[sick tulip]

I think that we will get T9 watches/necklaces in the coming season.

Though it will be fairly late in the season, to my memory.

[crude kiln]

What about purple AAs such as Kirara or M. Momoi? Are they used in higher floors?

[sick tulip]

No, those new purple ST students have red defence, they will not survive.

Also note that the lack of mystic effectiveness buffs is a dealbreaker, no matter how strong purple AA units might be. NY.Akari is a staple in too many high-floor teams.

[sick tulip]

Even if I can discover how to survive this, does this look too far behind pace for damage?

[sick tulip]

It’s somewhat close. I feel like I know how to do this, but it may be tricky to put it together in only a day or two.

[dusky lintel]

Probably been asked to death, but if I were to adapt a Hanako clear to a oShigure one, how many seconds earlier should I be casting oShigure to account for her lower heal speed?

[kind lake]

I'm asking a lot but does anyone have a UE50 Yoshimi band that I can friend? Thank you!

[minor depot]

after red set, is it blue set again like last time or with different terrain?

[zenith topaz]

Just blue armor. Same terrain.

[native ocean]

there only one terrain for this mode for now

even for jp

[minor depot]

Oh, that's good. It means we can use the same team and rotation as last time.

[native ocean]

Yep

[sick tulip]

The naive answer is probably about 8-10 seconds, but the proper perspective is that they don't behave the same, and won't directly substitute in the way that you may be imagining. Hanako's heals are rotationally similar to Ayane/Kaede/Koharu. O.Shigure's healing is a parallel to Atsuko.

The reason people consider them in tandem is because they are our top two most powerful AoE healers, and we consequently end up building the healing strategy around them.

[ember ocean]

was ue50ing band yoshimi worth it in your opinion

[desert cave]

that was a borrow

[ember ocean]

Oh

do u think itd be worth it

[desert cave]

if ur whel and a red set main sure

otherwise just save eligma for smthn else

[ember ocean]

or is yoshimi like a boat, nobody actually wants to own a band yoshimi, they just need to find a friend that owns one

I got her for a waifu purposes, and wouldnt object to raising her but she seems useless outside final restriction

maybe as like a decent 2nd team for red torm?

just gotta use ny fuuka

[native ocean]

not exactly useless, morelike there are better option for spesific thing

and when it's not spesific, they likely Dhina it

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[pure girder]

Does anyone have a comp that can clear F100 without SNonomi, BKazusa, SIori UE50 or OShigure?
The only one I've found is consistently at least 8m off
https://youtu.be/_eXxM6F5kRE

[sick tulip]

There are some D.Hina + B.Airi + B.Yoshimi assist setups, are there not?

[pure girder]

I haven't seen a single one and I'm not about to spend Ligma on BAiri if she needs to be UE30+ either

[sick tulip]

I vaguely recall one with Hanako + Atsuko healing

I don’t think B.Airi needs that much. She uses shoes, iirc?

[pure girder]

I'd give it a try if I had a source for it

[sick tulip]

If you have units that seem promising, give it a try anyway, imo

[pure girder]

well I can't very well give it a try without having a source to copy lol

[sick tulip]

A buff priority of S.Hoshino>B.Yoshimi>D.Ako>Kotama>B.Airi sounds reasonable

[sick tulip]

You can’t? Oh S-Sorry…

[pure girder]

I'm not about to waste an entire day of my weekend trying to figure out a timeline for a team that's very unlikely to work no

especially since there are 0 videos of it anywhere

[sick tulip]

That’s okay. There’s not really anything material gained by clearing this anyway.

[pure girder]

nvm found one, gonna try this at least
https://youtu.be/xD2sMhoLRws
posting for posterity in case someone else searches

nvm that's BKazusa lkol

actual 0 videos of it working

just gonna leave this at 99 and never trust anyone saying units aren't mandatory for set again

BKazusa/Oshig optional my foot

[sick tulip]

Well you can do it, but there’s costs elsewhere.

[sick tulip]

It sounds like you already know what those costs are, if you ever change your mind.

[native ocean]

why u want 100 anyway

[pure girder]

wdym costs elsewhere