🗼final-restriction-release

[native ocean]

u sure that's not just crit diff

[hushed sentinel]

I just have to use kokona on her to survive lightning

Precise healing

[hushed sentinel]

I am literally breaking ball with iwak

[native ocean]

Why not Thasu

[hushed sentinel]

I am gaining like

+2 cost per cycle

I need to build up for healing

Around 1.30 nuke yk

[native ocean]

[hushed sentinel]

And I don’t have sizuna to cycle

So yea…

I have to cycle with 3 costmostly

It is very tight

Anyway worth

6.4k atk Meeka

[zenith totem]

what team to use?

[tardy fractal]

Are people using thasumi ex when they bring her cuz I can't figure out how else she deals 10m+ dmg

[hushed sentinel]

Nope

Mine did 15m and she didn’t use ex entire run

[tardy fractal]

Then crit malding?

[hushed sentinel]

No..?

just her basic and sub

[tardy fractal]

Why does mine only deal 5m

[hushed sentinel]

What team are you using

[tardy fractal]

Shoshi sakurako thasumi nykayoko dako tmari

Hanako nyakari kotama sshiroko

[tardy fractal]

In that order

[mellow edge]

buff her w/ or w/o nykayoko make huge diff

[tardy fractal]

Tho I also notice she seems to be out of shoshi range

Is it normal?

[hushed sentinel]

There’s a cycle that let me buff thasumi once

[hushed sentinel]

Yep

Gotta let her be like that so hanako can heal 5 ppl

On high floor

[tardy fractal]

If I buff her, there's gonna be a good 10-30s where sakurako doesn't have buff tho?

[hushed sentinel]

At start I do shoshi (wait for 11) then nykayoko nyakari dako

[tardy fractal]

Unless on groggy?

[celest spindle]

nice

[hushed sentinel]

Kotama Sakurako

Iwak

Wait for 19.9 then nykayoko on thasumi

[celest spindle]

i still have 40s to spare may be 87 soon

[hushed sentinel]

Kokona

Then refresh

Break orb with Iwak

Then dako kotama

[tardy fractal]

Aight lemme write down that skill order and I'll try it once I'm free

[celest spindle]

holding cost work

[zenith crystal]

few seconds left

[hushed sentinel]

Etc

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1286346458626523219/1289460121402871819/IMG_2797.png?ex=66f8e6d1&is=66f79551&hm=cc1a32e59c24723c5f1c2f0a6e8062d02ba8c5b0fa7c53eff7863620bbc2f9b8&

Like

I double nykayoko after first cycle (on first orb break)

and again on healing rush near last 1.30 min mark

Cuz I cycle with cheap ex for hanako

(This is f86)

[tardy fractal]

Tho does iwak help that much? Schale.gg says the boss only has 700 defense

[hushed sentinel]

What else to do with cost

After first Iwak ex on boss I use her to break the ball

That’s it

[tardy fractal]

Yeah that's what I do with iwak as well

[hushed sentinel]

also it let you setup the rotation faster for more damage

[tardy fractal]

I thought I meant I had to use her on boss for Def down

[hushed sentinel]

Oh

You have some moment to setup the full buffed

[tardy fractal]

Btw sakurako ue50?

[hushed sentinel]

Then it’s healing spam

[hushed sentinel]

Ya borrowed ue50

My thasumi only

Uh

Mmm7

988 equip

[tardy fractal]

Better than mine

[hushed sentinel]

She do ok with 1MMM

But like if you have sizuna just use her instead

I use thasumi cuz no ligma

[tardy fractal]

I don't have sizuna, that's why I'm coping with thasumi

[hushed sentinel]

Same

And I don’t have ligma to build … cutaha/s tsurugi

Feels like I can push for f90

maybe

[regal arrow]

hmm then i think i have to upgrade my thasumi to replace sizuna

[hushed sentinel]

She’s kinda hard to use on higher floor

Like

She have less hp ue50 than … 3* dako

But like

Yeah

You don’t exactly have better option do you

And if you have sizuna

Just level her

She’s used

Like

Quite often

[timid wave]

@zenith escarp
Which rotation did you use for 105?

Im missing 8m dmg with the same team

Even with good crits/Kokonut procs

Also which UE level did you have

[crimson falcon]

is the title the same for set when it returns in the future?

[dusk willow]

the title doesn't seem to account for season / date like for those GA titles so probably yes

[crimson falcon]

[jagged hull]

Gotta be blue set at least

[zenith oracle]

keep getting wiped 😭

i cycle hanakos as fast as possible there

izuna also UE50 so probably gameplay issue?

[severe sentinel]

cooked by set

[native estuary]

[severe sentinel]

nerfed set f74 hp 58m

cant wait 2 month

[swift plaza]

Just copy homeworks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1018866472526827661.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[hushed sentinel]

[hushed sentinel]

I don’t see hw with no atsuko no shigure no sizuna

[chrome chasm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1208077308401950760.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[native ocean]

[faint bough]

Thasumi bald 👨‍🦲

[native ocean]

Wasnt that almost similar to Bee's run

Just swap S.Izu with Sakurako

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9YOkWg_-w

[faint bough]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-utaha-shiraishi-utaha-blue-archive-gif-14137042733579800040

[little hinge]

guys iam about big brain my ligma into nyakari just for set

[severe sentinel]

ssg whelbee

[native ocean]

But sir

*3 work most of cases

[faint bough]

Yea

[native ocean]

My NyAkari not even max enhance

[faint bough]

100 can still use 3* no?

[native ocean]

I forgot her gear

Idk, martin use *3 i think

And airu, was it

https://youtu.be/0fx-Rb-o4SI

*4 ...

Well shouldnt matter much

[hushed sentinel]

Cutaha

[hushed sentinel]

Wait actually

Maybe…

but no sizuna means I have uh

-1 cost

Cuz I need to cycle more expensive ex

[native ocean]

wasnt Jabroni also no S.Izuna

well they hab o.shig

[hushed sentinel]

[native ocean]

67 creds

[hushed sentinel]

And he use

Uh

Ue30 atsuko

[native ocean]

goodnight

[hushed sentinel]

It’s fine

[native ocean]

what floor u atm

[native ocean]

[hushed sentinel]

It’s fine… most pleabs struggling on f74

[native ocean]

my prev target also only f80

[hushed sentinel]

Atsuko is so good in that mode…

[native ocean]

tbh im quite surprising not even use Kokona

[faint bough]

i clear 97 kokonalet

atsuko just that good

[native ocean]

tru

[chrome chasm]

Is this possible to run oshig solo aoe heal without atsuko or hanako on higher floor?

[desert cave]

ok ue50 atsuko

[faint bough]

Its only 40??

[native ocean]

wasnt f106 use no atsuko?

[desert cave]

no its near's im talkin bout

🐳

[faint bough]

🛐

[chrome chasm]

I forgot to mention no shield

[native ocean]

um then idk

[chrome chasm]

I tried utaha izuna with solo oshig

Didnt go well

[native ocean]

there is 104 data, lemme find it

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY6GJSdkkwc&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&index=3&t=38s&pp=gAQBiAQB

[faint bough]

[native ocean]

there few actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFFmS0_9_NM&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&index=4&pp=gAQBiAQB
but same comp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQXbRD1eu-c&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&index=6&t=5s
Gtsubo not shield right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JybgMCw4kCo&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&index=7

[chrome chasm]

Oh yikes

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-gfjFOKdj8&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&index=8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxEcNSKOLHA&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&index=56
Hanako Xerina

[chrome chasm]

Yeah dmg is way too high for my units to handle

Hanako is kinda better

[quaint sage]

im looking for f74 without s.izuna ny.akari, o.shigure

anyone have any vid?

[chrome chasm]

Ty for the vids tho

[native ocean]

it's hard to find no s.izuna tbh

[hushed sentinel]

This but change nyakari to sayane

Or you can do … tank hifumi

[native ocean]

but yea, it's possible just hard to find vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkRl49KaTH8&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtH9CTA_hNt4lm1NtC8ahCVS&index=6&t=4s

[hushed sentinel]

Airi

[native ocean]

the first option use *3 C.Utaha

[quaint sage]

i see

i have her

[hushed sentinel]

Wait

What does airi do

👀

[native ocean]

aspd sub

[hushed sentinel]

Huh

Ok

I thought she’s there for debuff

[native ocean]

idk if that part needed

a sec

i don't see they mention it

[hushed sentinel]

Surely it’s not some secret airix tech

[native ocean]

[hushed sentinel]

what if Set no use storm when aspd debuff

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEcjDVZb5lg&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtH9CTA_hNt4lm1NtC8ahCVS&index=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GqU-6xVGKk&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtH9CTA_hNt4lm1NtC8ahCVS&index=11
if u need other opt

[placid marlin]

you have any F90 T.Hasumi clear ?

[quaint sage]

ty

[placid marlin]

conditions is no S.Izuna Cutaha Acari Umika

[native ocean]

if u mean the only dps other than Saku, i don't rmb

[placid marlin]

yeah

like dat

[native ocean]

lemme check on s3

[placid marlin]

S3 has T9 watch tho

[desert cave]

s3 fixed t.hasu sub skill so its prob more scuffed

[native ocean]

just crit harder

[deft jolt]

Screw the airline

5 hour delay is crazy

[native ocean]

what the floor range

90-99?

[placid marlin]

90-99

but just 90 will do

[deft jolt]

I can't get home to clear set

[desert cave]

just have ny akari and u can do 99

[native ocean]

they can't pull ny.akari

but they can pull Umika

it's a sign!

[zenith escarp]

https://youtu.be/G9RMpGl3Dyg

That guy was full ue50

I was ue40 nykayoko/d.ako/atsuko/acari/oshig

Ue50 everyone else, borrowed a ue50 c.utaha

Everyone bond 20 minimum

[native ocean]

is it possible for u get any of em work even at *3

or u don't even have any dps there

[zenith escarp]

And just in case, I used my healing lb on atsuko since mine was ue40

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tfRvvMlMWU&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtFW3pat5IG9VbscFvDHBUr9&index=20
cuz there is *3 c.utaha on s3

[hushed sentinel]

hm

Double aoe healer

But drop nyakari

Barely enough damage tho

Granted it’s 3* CUtaha

[native ocean]

that with *3 c.utaha

[hushed sentinel]

Still quite a damage loss

[native ocean]

[placid marlin]

I don't even have any of em

that's the freaking point

[hushed sentinel]

👀

[native ocean]

maybe u can get the idea above

but with T.Hasumi

[hushed sentinel]

I can probably do f90 with thasumi

But I have nyacari

[chrome chasm]

not sure if its a good idea

[placid marlin]

that won't do

[chrome chasm]

[placid marlin]

Cutaha already have much better dps than Thasu

[timid wave]

I followed the same hw

[native ocean]

[placid marlin]

you know how deadweight T.Hasumi dps is

[timid wave]

Then it really is investment issue

[placid marlin]

especially when running her with double healers

[placid marlin]

that's still garbage lmao

[zenith escarp]

Theres a couple points where atsuko full heals lantern

[hushed sentinel]

It’s fine tho

[placid marlin]

even a 3* S.izuna have better dps than her

[zenith escarp]

Make sure your atsuko can

[placid marlin]

even Maris if she has blue armor

not convincing

[hushed sentinel]

Ok then

[native ocean]

have u bald try NyMutsu

[hushed sentinel]

Only buff thasumi got entire run is

[placid marlin]

I dont even have Nutsuki

[native ocean]

if u can keep her surv

[hushed sentinel]

One NY kayoko

and

[native ocean]

[hushed sentinel]

Nyakari

[placid marlin]

Ny acari

[native ocean]

S.Tsurugi

[hushed sentinel]

Sasuga

[placid marlin]

damn do I have her UE rn

[native ocean]

wym sasuga

[placid marlin]

she is a vet options

[hushed sentinel]

D mood until ue50

[native ocean]

ask seno tho

[hushed sentinel]

I mean

Probably

Do I wanna build her with my pelolo mats

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[placid marlin]

🚮

this sucks

[native ocean]

actually

[zenith escarp]

Cope with regular Aris

[zenith escarp]

Surely

[placid marlin]

imagine being this hella gated because of started way later

[zenith escarp]

Blue armor

[placid marlin]

than most here

[native ocean]

[chrome chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx7akUbr2Ns

[hushed sentinel]

Maybe I can f90 with thasumi

[chrome chasm]

wtf rainstorm is whel

🐳

[placid marlin]

same as u

[native ocean]

just pull *3 umika smh

[zenith escarp]

Sounds about right for set

Spent all resources for TA/GA units?

[placid marlin]

that's whel

[zenith escarp]

No set for you

[placid marlin]

it is worse than Hod

Set make Hod looks even easy to access

[hushed sentinel]

Do hod tor without ckotama

[zenith escarp]

Hod is just cc

[hushed sentinel]

[native ocean]

time to ligma S.Tsurugi to U50

[placid marlin]

oh don't worry about that

[native ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1264628063849680907.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[zenith escarp]

But every single ga/ta rotation is just nuking the boss wkth hyperbuffed ex skills

So nobody actually builds AA

[placid marlin]

because that's how most units are in the game

[zenith escarp]

Just be an old player

[placid marlin]

yeah right, just start sooner

[zenith escarp]

Become boomer

[hushed sentinel]

BRUH WHY DOES

[zenith escarp]

[hushed sentinel]

BOTH STSURUGI

AND CUTAHA

USE ANTIKYTHERA

[placid marlin]

[hushed sentinel]

MAN I JUST BUILT HANAKO AND USED ALL

💀

[native ocean]

wait, wasn't Airu tried with *3 S.Izu

what floor was it

[placid marlin]

87

[native ocean]

nn.. it's 90

*4 s.izu

[placid marlin]

yeah but

S.Izuna

that account of him have her

[native ocean]

i mean

and u try without is

goodnight

[chrome chasm]

just spook cutaha

[placid marlin]

instruction unclear....

spooked Daru instead

😔

[chrome chasm]

ok sacc

you sacced rumi as well

[placid marlin]

stfu this whelsacc...

[chrome chasm]

worst thing about this raid is forgetting who nykayoko buffed last

[native ocean]

[faint bough]

G tsubo

rare to see someone with one 🛐

[chrome chasm]

gtsubaki with shoshi

[faint bough]

we do a little trolling

[pearl bane]

i gave that mf advice

[native ocean]

they won atleast

[pearl bane]

bro didnt invest kotama so

now r ya gonna do 50+

[native ocean]

just want to tell u that S.hosh and G.tsubo buff not stack

[faint bough]

yeah

Will stack with kotama tho

[native ocean]

it's funny looking both aura type replacing each other each frame

[pearl bane]

and here i just beat f100 today in jp

prolly could do more

[radiant canopy]

oops i accidentally cleared

this was supposed to be a practice run

[severe sentinel]

asia acc f37 done

i'll slacc

sakurako supermacy

just borrow

or find friends

[placid marlin]

I would really be appreciated if you could send me a record of that run

[slate stag]

Man I cant beat f74 yet since my hanako is still 3*

[pastel mural]

Wait a moment

Ok better pic for comp, move to here from ba gen chat,(yes I can borrow a Sakurako)

The other 2 at bottom of special is Saki and XHanae for context

[slate stag]

Not really

She is just a f2p option since I dont have o.shig or atsuko

[thick cave]

dang

i think i getting more build issue and skill issue at this mode

only making into floor 18, damnit why i am so dumb

[hushed sentinel]

unit check

[native ocean]

[hushed sentinel]

no blue aa/blue def unit

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5W9Sz4x0HY&feature=youtu.be

[hushed sentinel]

gonna tax your clear

[thick cave]

i had build issue, skill issue, yet students issue (some that i dont have for clear units requirement)

[thick cave]

NOOOOOOOOO-

[native ocean]

umn

[thick cave]

What tha fu

oh

there is something i forget to say

*material issue *

[native ocean]

sakurako is borrow

just fill random unit to allow it

specialist is depends, do u have all of em?

[thick cave]

buddy, even though i had this kawaii nun
like i said, i had material issue while trying to MMMM her skills

yet i can only get at lvl 80, report and credit issue

[native ocean]

dps is someone u mostly borrow, it's ok

[hushed sentinel]

[thick cave]

if only my clubsmates is not forgetting for setting the good one....

but i guess i can follow your suggest here

[native ocean]

find better club and mates

[thick cave]

i aint betray my own clubs that i make with my old friends

[native ocean]

then get better club and mates with ur old friends!

[red vessel]

is it worth investing in X.Hanae or S.Eimi for futur fury of set ?

[hushed sentinel]

no..?

maybe seimi

[thick cave]

after our internal problems with another club branch done, nope sorry cant leave

[native ocean]

S.Eimi actually used in high floor but i heard it's hard to use. X.Hanae is likely expensive to use

so actually neither

[slow sage]

dako's fat ass keeps pushing shigure out of range to heal kayoko

i thought she was supposed to be intangible

[placid marlin]

S.Eimi give you an easy P1 Goz

[hushed sentinel]

the second one is hard to find

[placid marlin]

worthwhile to raise

[thick cave]

which shigure?

[pastel mural]

Any opinions?

[slow sage]

orchestra onsen

[thick cave]

oh-

[native ocean]

for what floor was it

[pastel mural]

Uhh, well since my game is bugged and I have to manually do all the floors up till 24, anything below 79?

Since 79 is torment level apparently

[native ocean]

f75+ actually

[pastel mural]

Ok well

[native ocean]

then let's say f74 for now

[slow sage]

clearly supposed to heal tower

[native ocean]

Kotama and change B.Akane into S.Ayane (S.Mimori if u can build is better). Change C.Utaha to Sakurako borrow

[pastel mural]

Why Kotama and why not BAkane?

[native ocean]

u can also try smth like borrowing Ny.Akari to replace B.Akane (Kotama still there) if u feel like ur dps can do enough

[pastel mural]

Also is XSerina still ok?

[native ocean]

yea, Xerina is good buffer

[native ocean]

Kotama can do both AoE buff for 30s and reducing enemy atk + atk sub

[pastel mural]

I was looking at other students with low cooldown basic attack or basic that buff’d students(specials)

So like Mari for example or Shizuko

[brazen sequoia]

Does anyone with a maxed sakurako up for borrow have a spot open on their friends list? I have none available to me

[pastel mural]

And buffers like SShizuko and Sena

[native ocean]

not a good idea

S.Shizuko can be used but it's hard to make sure who receive the basic

[pastel mural]

Was told to not use ex skills

[dawn berry]

1

[native ocean]

Since S.Izu has c.dmg enhance+ then pretty sure she steal the takoyaki

when ur main is the Sakurako borrow

97 atm, idk if i want more

[pastel mural]

Still isn’t SIzuna good cause constant aa with atk spd

[native ocean]

yes

so do u want to increase ur S.Izuna dmg or ur Sakurako carry

[rugged zephyr]

you can go 99 if you already done high 90s

same strats

gotta get 240 bond exp more

[native ocean]

maybe when i feel want

[deft jolt]

Oh go

I thought I'm prepared for this game mode

But I'm totally unprepared

[weary geyser]

this gamemode is so hard, any tip to beat it?

[chrome parrot]

read pins for tips

[weary geyser]

alr thx

[deft jolt]

Now I'm thinking of UE30 my nykayoko

[thick cave]

bless you joexys

[blazing vault]

Out of curiosity is it possible to use Asuna as a sub-DPS?

I don't have many Blue DPS good in Field

[tardy fractal]

Only up to f49

[blazing vault]

Good enough for me

Thx

[mossy cradle]

[native ocean]

Time to try 4 striker

[cloud ruin]

Not slacking anymore, f99 we go

I will need an UE50 Sakurako to attempt f100 though

[ivory pier]

Quick question, is it viable to have S.Hoshino and Kotama in the same team, do their atk buffs stack ?

[cloud ruin]

They stack yea

[ivory pier]

I wasn't sure. Thanks.

[late lily]

ue40’ing nykayoko with maxed enhanced+ appears to increase the length of her buff uptime from 40s to 47.6s, which brings it closer to shoshi’s 50s buff

… Is that longer buff utilized in certain hw for higher floors?

[split kiln]

I'm using it on my clear if that count
#1286349517846741122 message

[desert cave]

[wide orbit]

[terse oriole]

anyone have rotation for set

tryna get past 74

NOOOOOOOOOO

4 star izuna is prob no good

[wide orbit]

Doesn't have enough HP to tank stuffs

[terse oriole]

WHY

[terse oriole]

i cna prob heal better

i also dont know about my damage

is it good pace

[shy moon]

ue50 sizuna aruji dono

IzunaHyperNod

[terse oriole]

my eligma

ill get ue30

or i can be smart for once

and actually just level up her gear

[rustic lynx]

FUARGH

[desert cave]

so much set balding

[rustic lynx]

...What the hell is that third team? Regular Ako?

[shy moon]

regular ako works for a crit damage statstick

and i guess you can use her to buff during groggy when you are literally overflowing with energy

[fast saffron]

I was convinced that oshig was going to be mid when she first came out and now I'm considering ue40ing her

how the tables have turned

[desert cave]

once mid always mid

[hushed sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/shigure-blue-archive-shigure-mayoi-mayoi-shigure-blue-archive-gif-7373119600301706993

[rustic lynx]

Should I just go double healer, with O.Shiggy and Hanako, rather than O.Shiggy and S.Eimi?

[hushed sentinel]

Cost issue at low invest but doable

And uh

Maybe damage issue with low invest

[rustic lynx]

There absolutely is an investment issue.

The state of Hanako:

Versus the state of Eimi:

[hushed sentinel]

Ligma
Time

[slim iris]

its related to the difficulty cycle. Healers are SS tier when the game is hard

Solid B when the game is easy

but Set lives outside that cycle cause there exists a harder floor so healers are super relevant

and oshig is simply the best healer

[hasty quartz]

nah set is definitely in that cycle

124 is the top

its gonna be a long time until then

but soon were going back

its a different thing if frr was infinitely scaling

[slim iris]

for now* i guess i meant to say but wasnt explicit

[hasty quartz]

its not outside of that cycle even now

we just havent looped back yet

[slim iris]

I dont see Set as a cycle, its more like... a tower....

its TA difficulty cycle but just repeated for every floor

[hasty quartz]

yes

and thats

the same cycle...

you have people staying in insane

and you have people going for torment

[slim iris]

we can put it that way ig

[hasty quartz]

we just happen to have

[slim iris]

[hasty quartz]

torment2, torment3, and so on

[slim iris]

would it be more correct to say then that Set's cycle is descynced with TA's cycle

thats prob the words im looking for

maybe "lives outside that cycle" meant outside of TAs cycle whiel still having a cycle of its own

[pastel mural]

What is SMimori good for in this?

[zenith escarp]

atk speed buff

and I guess the shield can help on occasion?

but it really is just the atk speed buff because when the main damage source is going pew pew with auto attacks and basic skills, shooting faster is good

[pastel mural]

Back here was told to use her

[hasty quartz]

a lot of people wont understand that but yes

same cycle, different timing/rate

just say its slower or something

[shell laurel]

this feels cope
is this cope

noa cutaha unbuilt

come to think of it i can probably ditch tomoe but idk who i can replace her with

[hasty quartz]

i actually wonder if we can make students avoid the zap zone with tomoe

[pastel mural]

@native ocean what investment would I need for SMimori

[native ocean]

M77M

[analog wadi]

a UE30 Sakurako enough for level 100?

[lone girder]

As a third dps behind ue40+ cutaha and umika maybe

[tardy fractal]

Is it just me or does the boss use the lightning attacks more towards the end? Cuz I can't seem to cycle to Hanako fast enough

[short panther]

i can beat every ins ez but can barely beat f47

[zenith escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1289760905348776060/Screenshot_2024.09.28_21.27.45.514.png?ex=66f9fef2&is=66f8ad72&hm=5c6381ad5578f97cbde8fbcdf4a134974ea22ff6353ac576ba0eb4c6f7904135&

No wappi/kokona 100 clear because I'm bored waiting for peroro

Tried without nyacari too but the dmg is a little too low

[pastel mural]

Yikes

[native ocean]

Just do like MxxM

[short panther]

HS shigure heal that much?

[zenith escarp]

atsuko + oshig

[pastel mural]

Don’t think I can do that either

[native ocean]

Cuz if lower u proly better just use other option

[lean gale]

whats your UEs on them

[pastel mural]

I have 3/5/5/6

[desert cave]

he a so both ue40

[shadow hollow]

Alright, what are we thinking? Any changes?

[native ocean]

Idk if that sufficient

just use other opt

[pastel mural]

Whom?

Was it SAyane?

[native ocean]

Yea, Kotama S.Ayane

[pastel mural]

Yeah she’s xMxM

Kotama isn’t maxed tho

[native ocean]

well S.Ayane fine at xxxM, she there as crit stat

Kotama MxxM

[pastel mural]

She’s like 3?xxM

Can’t remember ex lvl

[native ocean]

Maybe u can try first with that, but maxing her is worth from what i see

Cuz this mode will be continuing for 7months

[rustic lynx]

Off by four million.

Eimi repositioning is breaking the DPS too much.

And Kayoko still died at home stretch.

I might have to swap Eimi for Hanako.

[pastel mural]

Doesn’t it end 22/10?

[rustic lynx]

I'll try double Ako strat.

[native ocean]

That's for this season

There total of 7 season

Atm

Blue > Red > Blue > Red > Blue > Red > Blue

[pastel mural]

Also not max lvl too

[rustic lynx]

Now Kokona died.

That's a first.

[cunning linden]

[rustic lynx]

Kamigamer.

[pastel mural]

Ibuki but no Iroha?

[cunning linden]

useless here

[rustic lynx]

Also, it's a no Gacha account.

Sakurako is a borrow.

[cunning linden]

ibuki does kotama's role here as an aoe atk buffer

cant use kotama bc special slots are too crowded + ibuki has advantage of slightly higher atk buff & debuff

[pastel mural]

Sad

[pastel mural]

Wonder why I’m told to use Kotama and not Ibuki

[cunning linden]

thats because u have access to gacha units and causew doesnt lmfao

[shadow hollow]

Serina seems to be a common contender for Healer in a lot of people's runs, no surprise Hanako is there though.

Is the Ibuki Iroha combo good for Higher Tier Set runs?

[analog jetty]

Yall think hanako worth it to invest especially for the current and following seasons?

I don't have kokona, but I do have atsuko

[cunning linden]

iroha's only purpose is atk sub + statstick. her synergy with ibuki does not matter here

[pastel mural]

No but who is better, XSerina, Ibuki or Kotama

[cunning linden]

ideally it should be kotama

imo the way i interpreted it was that causew's striker pool is very low so ur usual must-have gacha strikers for this fight (s.hoshi, atsuko, kokona, d.ako, ny.kayoko, s.izuna/c.utaha/umika, etc) are absent so his striker slots arent as "filled up" to speak

his specials however are crowded. if he can load off one his special buffers (kotama) to instead be a striker (ibuki), then that gives him room to slot another useful special.

[timid wave]

Hanako is a free UE50 unit with raid coins
and she is used even for high level floors
not the #1 option, but certainly a good substitute if you dont have oshig + seimi/miku
so if you want to play set and enjoy the mode, sure. go invest Hanako

[pastel mural]

Hmm, why haven’t I been told to use Atsuko

Oh nvm I’m blind

[cunning linden]

who have u been taking advice from

[pastel mural]

Read it backward

[cunning linden]

oh

[pastel mural]

A few peeps

[cunning linden]

cuz if atsuko wasnt mentioned, id be a little concerned

[pastel mural]

No but my comps didn’t include her

Basically this, but swap CUtaha for Saku borrow

And BAkane for SAyane or someone

[crisp shale]

BUZZER BEATER F74 Cleared

Sakurako dieded heck it we ball

[native ocean]

[tardy fractal]

Finally cleared f74
i hated that the solution to all of my problems was just to use nykayoko first instead of shoshi at the start

[latent parrot]

How survive 104 with this team, I die to lightning hands + vortex even if I go hanako -> cycle as fast as possible -> hanako

[radiant canopy]

very precise hanako timings

[pastel mural]

Well what’s the Hanako investment? And bond

[radiant canopy]

i was gonna try F104 with my F102 rotation but there's no way in hell i can do 5.88 mil damage in 2 seconds

[humble trail]

TIL That suff like this can crit.

So, with her EX buff up, 1 Sakurako AA bullet can generate 3 crits, it seems? It's a good Kokona generator then.

Wait, since EX says "This damage can trigger additional damage from the Sub Skill", doesn't it mean 4 crits?

Normal Bullet -> Sub
EX augmented Additional Hit -> Sub

Right? So 4 crits per bullet potentially?

[radiant canopy]

The Fury of Set for Dummies - aka things to pay attention to when fighting Set
(the image is big, open it in a new tab to understand what it's saying)

[civic totem]

Should I raise Hanako just for this raid?

[sterile schooner]

Yea if you dont have oshigure

[radiant canopy]

(or cant UE40 o.shigure)

[pastel mural]

She’s also a good healer post Bond gear

[merry thunder]

How do I survive the lightning storm before the big 100 ATG aoe if underlevelled? Currently at 48, cleared 47 but unsure if I could even replicate my 47 clear

Trying to figure out how to make it past, but kokona and koharu are low 70s

[swift plaza]

You need heal-over-time aoe healer

Hanako is f2p option, oshigure is p2w

[desert cave]

true

[left halo]

Man i have cleared insanes and torments in hard but somehow found this hard. Only F49.

Tbf i deliberately didnt look up homework and jumped in blind

[merry thunder]

are you talking to me? the storm requires me to top everyone with koharu and use a kaede shield before the last strike or it does 120% hp, hanako doesnt outheal it, the lightning hands afterwards is killing 2 even on best attempts though

[swift plaza]

If you cannot outheal it then it's investment issue

[merry thunder]

genius analysis

[humble trail]

Can O.Shigure solo heal floors 99-100?

I always see her accompanied by Atsuko in the homework.

I saw Hanako solo it in multiple videos (I cleared 87), but the timings are stressful af.

I'm trying 97 rn, but my UE30 Hanako comes up short. Peroro coins should get me to UE40 and then I'll mald more.

If O.Shigure can solo (I have no Atsuko) and is comfy, I almost wanna selector ticket her and go this route, but can she?

I don't have C.Utaha either (need to borrow Izuna), so I can't do the mega 3 DPS burst down comp that kills before enduring all of ATG gauge 3.

[dusk willow]

I don't think O.Shigure is selectorable

but yeah she's basically a better Hanako (if ue40 that is)

the only healer you run alongside Hanako / OShig usually is Kokona for obelisk healing

[humble trail]

Was purely talking about AOE heals and I also see a bunch people using Atsuko with OShig (in fact, I always see them together on JP homework (unless 3DPS comp), I'll check the videos here). I'm bringing Kokona along

[merry thunder]

Should I stop at 19 or should I try for 24?

[pastel mural]

You can possibly do 24

But it’ll be a bit tough

[swift plaza]

Ue30 oshigure can do solo healer even at f100

[humble trail]

Vid(s) please? Scoured all homework I know, even in the thread here (all the 100+ playlist too), found 0 video.

There's always an Atsuko (or even an Hanako/shielder lol), or it's the 3 DPS burst comp that avoids enduring all of ATG3 damage (can't do that one either).

[humble trail]

I'd say, wait 2 weeks when you progress more and then do it. You got until October 21 or something like that!

[merry thunder]

is 50 easier than 49 if my frail students are yellow armor

ik i have to clear 49 first

[humble trail]

Could be easier if frail students were blue/purple armor (then again, prob not even then), but yellow armor takes 100% damage (normal), shouldn't be easier.

[merry thunder]

yea just wondering if the sturdy ones taking less damage will make stuff like ako heal more consistent

[inland lava]

without ny kayoko buffing sakurako, she lost like 1/3 of the total dps she deals

yeah floor 49 might be impossible at this point

🫠🤔

[swift plaza]

O sorry i remembered wrong, they did use hanako instead of atsuko

I have vids too if you want

[austere crest]

I can't imagine solo AOE healing in floor 99/100 lmao

You need atsuko and oshjg ticking to top you off before the big hp bombs

And atsuko helps a bit to keep the obelisk topped off (but not that important since you're gonna kok it)

If I don't see atsuko oshig, it's oshig hanako

[swift plaza]

Idk why a ue40 hanako can solo heal f100 but a ue30 oshigure cant

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1079268561480065024.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[mellow edge]

ue40 provide extra healing power. huge diff

[austere crest]

because hanako provides ally heal too

[chrome chasm]

hanako>oshig

[spark epoch]

IIRC, F50 has about double ATK than F49. My yellow-armoured Koharu melted in F50.

[merry thunder]

ah ok thanks

[austere crest]

also how can u compare to units ue40vsue30 lmao

ue40 is an insane buff to oshig

[mellow edge]

ue40 oshig > ue50 hanako >>>>ue30 oshig

[desert cave]

true

[inland lava]

in conclusion, ue40 o shig is better than ue40 hanako?

[austere crest]

yes..

find me the hiero team with hanako

oh wait u cant

[inland lava]

maybe related but ue40 atsuko's heal is much bigger to ue30 atsuko?

[austere crest]

no

u get more evade I think

[chrome chasm]

p+ has healing

[austere crest]

for atsuko!

?

let me double check

[chrome chasm]

yeah

base p is evasion up

or is it hp up idr

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1239541208787976202/kokonastupid.gif

[austere crest]

o ye

I think it's hp

Phone wiki is ass

But yeah I think it's hp

[austere crest]

hanako oshig comps seem comfier anyway somehow

[swift plaza]

I mean back in the day before dhina if you dont have mari track you must cope with every other healer options you have

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1226736618480603237.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[austere crest]

yea trust me I know

back in the day he says

[mellow edge]

both Atsuko's base healing power and healing rate is not enough to be a solo healer. ue40 helped a little but not critical.

[austere crest]

[inland lava]

this is the answer I wss looking for

[lean gale]

So I should leave my atsuko at 3* and UE40 oshit instead

[idle current]

for set only, yeah

we don't have Kurokage in sight for the next 6 months anyways

[lean gale]

[chrome chasm]

set 100 oshig comp without atsuko is really weird

[lean gale]

Remember when purple raids existed

I just slacced f49 for now, but I think for f74 I'll need to ue either oshit or atsuko cus they're the two healers I'm using and no one else

[mellow edge]

only if you do have excessive eligma

[inland lava]

can't wait for kurokek raid

[lean gale]

And I don't want to dump trinity mats into Hanako for now

[mellow edge]

why not invest on hanako? she is f2p

[hushed sentinel]

Man hanako uses

ANTIKYTHERA

you know what other relevant unit uses them

[lean gale]

Because I have oshig and almost 5k ligma

[hushed sentinel]

Cutaha and stsurugi

[desert cave]

so whel

[mellow edge]

whel

[lean gale]

It's just do I care enough to clear f74 and more

[rocky dove]

Seeing them clear 100 without NY Akari bodes well for me

I think I can do it then

[hushed sentinel]

Ue30 nykayoko damn

[rocky dove]

Only ones not max skilled are Shig since I just invested in her and Kotama

Everyone is max geared

[hushed sentinel]

I wasted eligma

She won’t ever be useful until ue40

It’s so over

[mellow edge]

i think 3* oshig wont work on f100

[slate shore]

[rocky dove]

Won't be enough healing?

[hushed sentinel]

4* oshig ain’t even enough for f82

[rocky dove]

I have Hanako UE40 just not skilled up

[hushed sentinel]

Hanako is just better

With that level of investment

[rocky dove]

I'll skill her a bit then

So if anything healing could be my issue

[hushed sentinel]

Healing is 100% your issue

I mean

Hanako healing for 11k a tick and

11.8k a tick

[rocky dove]

Even with ue40 Kokonut no issue though

[hushed sentinel]

Is the difference of me clearing f86 and not

[rocky dove]

It's an easy fix

[hushed sentinel]

Up to you to decide but yeah

Rn my hanako is

54M7

[humble trail]

I managed Floor 87 on UE30 Hanako, M7M7 BG2, but I'll need UE40 to go 97+, pretty sure. Peroro coins gonna save me.

[mellow edge]

the bottom line for hanako is ue40, m7m7, and ofc unique item t2

[rocky dove]

I'm sure mine is 1 across the board

[hushed sentinel]

Ui1 is enough

[mellow edge]

for f100

[hushed sentinel]

Her ui2 is just two target heal

Which is

Uh

Frankly nothing

[humble trail]

DefUp + heal no? Maybe def can halp

[hushed sentinel]

Going from

100 def

To 120 def

And nyakari also exist… yeah good luck with that

[rocky dove]

I wish she didn't hate me lol

[hushed sentinel]

Idt it’s worth the mat but up to you really

[humble trail]

Isn't it a 46.5% increase at level 7? That's be 146 def

[rocky dove]

Sparking only NY Fuuka sucked

[hushed sentinel]

I have her gear2 but

It still doesn’t rly save my backline

[rocky dove]

Depending on what gift she wants for t2 I may have it already

[hushed sentinel]

The forbidden love book

You get 10 from event shop exchange

[humble trail]

Naughty books, but BG1* might be enough, ya:

[rocky dove]

I have 15 we're good

[hushed sentinel]

Hanako sub and enhanced(+) is both healing

So yeah farm the event stage 10 lmao for the antikytheras

[chrome chasm]

idk

bg2 looks stonk on high floor

[hushed sentinel]

Who do the proc go on

Hoshino and sizuna?

[chrome chasm]

anyone except shoshi

[hushed sentinel]

But how do you really control it

[mellow edge]

anyone include shoshi

[hushed sentinel]

It’s mostly gonna be shoshi+1 random

In my case lowest is usually

Thasumi + shoshin

[mellow edge]

you cannot control and not really matter actually

[hushed sentinel]

Yeah

It doesn’t rly change much giving 50 def to base 103 defense student …

But hey all the stat you need for the boss is up to you

I’m just saying I upgraded her to equip2 and I don’t notice any performance change

My thasumi is still 6 feet under near 1min mark if I mess up anyway

[final bear]

question for a bit of future: does s nonomi 100 round mag thing in her ex got 80% damage reduction by set too? or it's jus the the initial ~1100% damage thing?

[chrome chasm]

only the initial

[final bear]

goto it, so i guess she can be useful against red set huh, nice

[chrome chasm]

she is

if you alr had her built and ue40+

[final bear]

which is good, because i barely have any good units against blue set lol. ends up having to use s izuna and asuna as main dps

i got enough eligma to ue40 her. shes ue30 right now for me

[spark epoch]

And if you badly lack good units for the blue set AND you don't have/use S. Eimi, you may even use S. Nonomi in the blue set for her basic skill. ATK speed buffs are useful in the Fury of Set.

[tardy fractal]

I thought I could clear f77 since I cleared f74 with a good 20 seconds left but god damn it the timing is completely different

How could 1 extra skill mess up the timing so bad

[final bear]

/me delete old comment now that read s nonomi basic: Oh, AOE atkspd buff. Yeah that looks definitely nice compared to o chinatsu who can only do 1 target

[smoky stream]

help

I can't clear floor 100

what to do

[idle current]

go back to sleep

[hardy forge]

https://youtu.be/Xuvi-F4GdlQ

[smoky stream]

[finite lynx]

this fury of set thing looks confusing, and I don't know how it works lol

[deft jolt]

so uh how should i tinker with this?

[split kiln]

Hmm no nykayo?

[silver fox]

Has anyone successfully substituted d.ako/C.serina for tomoe and cleared F100

[split kiln]

No

[deft jolt]

i do

[split kiln]

Replace atsuko/shoshi ig

For special hmm...
Shifumi stat stick?
Or hanako for double healer

[deft jolt]

i have S.eimi

built ready

[split kiln]

Tomoe is much worse than both
At that point just go no crit dmg striker buffer and stick ako to special

[deft jolt]

go by centroid it should touch Sakuraro and izuna

[split kiln]

Hmm...
Worth a try maybe
Her ex is dps loss tho when not needed

[deft jolt]

i left that at lv1

in case i need it at Goz and srkr

[silver fox]

My special is hanako/ny.akari/kotama/iwak

They're all pretty essential

[split kiln]

Still you can not use crit dmg buffer instead of using tomoe
Shoshi sakurako izuna nykayo kokona atsuko
Heck slide in extra dps like thasu over atsuko

[silver fox]

No S.izuna so probably gonna push s.tsurugi to UE40 once shop resets to hopefully get enough dps

Just hanako+kokona enough healing for f90-100?

I'll try with Atsuko to see if enough dps. If not I'll sack her for t.hasumi and pray I don't die

[humble trail]

Yes if Hanako is UE40, M7M7 and BG1 (maybe need 2? but BG1 at the least).

I did F87 with UE30 Hanako, but I couldn't clear F97 at all, I'll use Peroro TA coins to UE40 her and try after.

[deft jolt]

done f49

now lets proceed

[silver fox]

Thanks. I'll try after I level enhanced

[humble trail]

Even then, the timing for some heals is very strict.

I don't have precise timestamps, but some attacks are super deadly, and you need to time heal juuust right. You don't want to overheal and waste ticks, but if you're too late, you could RIP too.

Even at critical points, if you had mishealed previous attacks, your students might be at too low HP to survive no matter the timing.

It's rough out there, but she can def do it, bunch of homework of Kokona+Hanako handling all the healing.

[deft jolt]

RAH

[merry thunder]

F74?

[deft jolt]

that's 74 for now

im going to push it but im tired

[harsh hound]

Hello, for a question about this gamemode. Is this monthly, weekly or something like that? I haven't really started it yet

[split kiln]

Monthly

Well not really monthly more like 4 weeks cycle

But close enough

[smoky stream]

I hate this mode

too whel for me

[burnt moon]

This entire time I was doing the floors one by one until I now realized that you can skip floors lol

[vital plume]

same

[sick thorn]

slacc, the rewards is kinda average unless you need that extra 3% stat boost IMO

[hoary rock]

i hate this game mode

ive never been so bored while malding

so much rng

so many resets

f this

[slate shore]

Pins

[hoary rock]

i know the mechanics, i know what to do.
I dont have the students.
this game mode is just another middle finger to newer players who havent built every single student they've never needed before

I have saved up mats for koharu when i finally get her next week, im not wasting them on fing hanako

only multi healer i have is Rumi i just built for pero, and her stupid rice bounces literally everywhere but where i need it

[austere crest]

man

ur not even like 6 months old

and ur complaining this hard about END GAME content

u do not understand set at all if ur claiming there is rng

[slate shore]

I have endure many gold for 2 years

[hoary rock]

I should be able to do floor 49

[austere crest]

skill/investment issue then if thats what u believe

please tell me what the rng is

id like to know

since i didnt really get any when i cleared floor 100

[hoary rock]

chain lightning & rumi EX

[austere crest]

so its ur self inflicted rng

[hoary rock]

shes my only multi healer

[austere crest]

then go play longer and try again next set lmao

u refuse to raise a free healer that is good in content outside of set

[hoary rock]

who the hell uses hanako outside of set?

[austere crest]

its not even worth getting into this LMAO

u hardly understand the game

[hoary rock]

because you know you are wrong

[austere crest]

right

[hoary rock]

its ok buddy

[austere crest]

okay man

another kazama another day

[hoary rock]

dont you have some whale reacts to spend 5 hours crying about?

[austere crest]

oh no im so mad!

keep complaining about the game for a few more months and quit i guess

[merry thunder]

On the brightside, blue armor set is gonna get nerfed on the next 2 months (except the top floors)

Also Kuroko (the next anni fest unit) is really useful on it, that might be a lot helpful for the ones who aspire to reach the top floor for later
Same for red Set with the band girls next month

[safe summit]

trying to figure out the minimal investment i should do if i want to clear f74. i lack sizuna, nyakari, and seimi, of characters i see getting used. i have sakurako, cutaha, oshigure, but uninvested. i guess it might be possible by just raising sakurako, borrowing sizuna, and using other characters i've already invested? i see a video like that but it's pretty dicey. don't want to dump eligma into sakurako while uncertain about the returns.

[south blade]

Don’t stress it too much, it’s an endless tower and newbies are very limited in resources & roster. Just grab the monthly goodies you can and skip the malding.
Eventually, your account will grow and you’ll be able to unga bunga floor 90
(FYI, Hanako is used outside of Set. https://www.bluearchive-ranking.com/students/Hanako Handy whenever you need some aoe heals )

[south blade]

You’re right that she’s pretty low raid priority most of the time, so no worries. Just play longer and you’ll get there

[fallen crescent]

Is Iroha or NyAkari better for Sett/perorodzilla?

Since I can only have one vehicle at a time

[sour garden]

nyacari by far

[tawdry lodge]

akari is a very good support buffer, iroha is more of a dps. which do you lack in your comp?

[fallen crescent]

I'm still putting together my comp but I have nymutsuki and Wakamo already

[south blade]

There’s only one enemy in Set, other than the occasional orb that you need to time to kill, so Iroha’s aoe wouldn’t be very useful. NY Akari buffs your attack speed and mystic effectiveness, which is perfect here

[fallen crescent]

Got it

Which dps are best? Since I heard apparently AAs are best and that EX damage is reduced

I'm guessing Maid Aris is good AA wise, and both Izunas?

[mint flax]

Sakurako is the top choice

[fallen crescent]

Don't have her sadly 😔

[south blade]

There’s a team building section in Causew’s guide in pins

[fallen crescent]

Thank you!

[south blade]

You can borrow Sakurako

[fallen crescent]

Got it

[south blade]

If you don’t have friends, ask here, #💬gameplay-discussion , and check #1108594770332373143 . Just need to know which server you’re on

[mint flax]

Remember that from f50+ Set atk becomes red and he'll just shred base Izuna

[south blade]

Yea, that’s for the lower stages. I assumed based on their questions

[abstract halo]

Do you really need ue40 oshigure to use her effectively? I can't outheal the high damage period with her 3* + atsuko running, do i just gotta switch to hanako

For f99

[cloud ruin]

Yea better use Hanako

Oshogure 3* definitely not enough

[idle current]

if you need it, you build it, otherwise there's something you haven't done to maximize your chances to clearing and it's your decision to not do that

it's true that Hanako isn't really used elsewhere because she's overshined by other options, the closest thing is Kurokage team 2 healer

but if you're in a struggle to begin with, you make the assessment of whether it's worth the investment or not

Set isn't something that you really need to stress about

[hoary rock]

spending resources for AG and TA is more important rn

[idle current]

yes, so if you've come to terms with that, it's fine to not build Hanako

just don't be that mad about it since Set's target audience wasn't the regular players to begin with

[cloud ruin]

This gamemode is pure end game targetting veteran players or whales. Rewards aren't worth the trouble for new player/low level, just keep investing in your roster for more rewarding contents such as TA/GA and events.

[pastel mural]

Turns out I can’t do 49

Fun

Also my phone starts gaining massive amounts of heat while the raid is active(when doing 24)