🗼final-restriction-release

[bold arch]

Soon™️

[radiant canopy]

like COME ON

the V4C2 writer is the new scenario director

surely

they will remember

[robust fjord]

surely

[bold arch]

ultra hybrid skill

[robust fjord]

also hello joe

[radiant canopy]

hello dun?no

[bold arch]

now the F.O.X can summon a transformer to fight against Kaiten

[robust fjord]

big

[radiant canopy]

that sounds fine tbh, but you might be missing out on sroko's def debuff?

maybe himari can make up for it iunno

[bold arch]

Himari is evasion debuff

[robust fjord]

yeah himari is eva shred

[shell laurel]

gotta turn that 1 evasion into .629

[rough inlet]

Alright guys, can 3 star Akari do floor 100?

[sterile valve]

If you're asking should I ue30 now or when Set actually comes out and I try using her and if it doesn't work, the answer is when Set comes out and if she doesn't work

[finite stump]

[hallow ivy]

i think you meant kurumi, wrong fox squad

[hallow ivy]

i mean ye sroko is overrated anyway

[native estuary]

[radiant canopy]

pretty sure kurumi would be a striker
you asked for specials

[uncut panther]

Are we only can borrow 1 at a time in this mode?

[uncut panther]

Aww... I'm screwed

[split jay]

nope, lets just make V5C2

Nagusa is waiting

[lean gale]

noooo i dont want more nagusa crying compilation

[fast raven]

the amount of insecurities she has is alot

[native ocean]

[hallow ivy]

pretty sure all of them are striker

[mystic stone]

[radiant canopy]

i'll probably set s.izuna and ny.akari as borrows

dunno who my 3rd borrow will be but we'll see

kokona maybe?

[regal arrow]

should i maxed hanako for healer?

[celest spindle]

If you don't have oShigure

At higher floor, most strat are Atsuko, Hanako, oshigure for Healer

[uncut panther]

How much Atsuko minimum build for floor around 75?

[celest spindle]

You still need another healer with Atsuko though, she more like a sub healer for more safety
Ex5 gonna mandatory and anything relates to Healing is good

[placid marlin]

3* Atsuko
4* Kok
3* Oshit....

yeop, Set is totally whel content

higher floors would need all of those UE at minimum iirc

[slate stag]

Yeah

Pretty sure ue40 is average for higher floors

[native ocean]

Idk the minimum but,

Maybe u can check the playlist to see

Ofc as everyone said, u still need to count the other healer

[hardy salmon]

[hallow ivy]

Atsuko > smh not raising her to ue40 for kurokage
Kokona > not even ue30 for hiero speedrun
Oshig > just use hanako

[torpid basin]

Imagine that. Hard content is hard

[mighty pebble]

Hard and expensive aren't the same smh smh

"greg is hard"

[celest spindle]

"Binah is hard"ftfy
Greg still expensive

[hallow ivy]

not anymore

[mighty pebble]

Greg still expensive
That's what quotes here are for

[lean gale]

"torment is hard"

[mighty pebble]

But generally it's not hard nor expensive

In most cases

[hallow ivy]

torment is easy

[mighty pebble]

Greg is whel

Goz is shit

[shy moon]

we still get the hourly credit income right

keke

[shy moon]

greg is f2p

STAB

[hardy salmon]

🐳

[hallow ivy]

f2p clear ye

[runic bolt]

Next Greg will be F2P friendly
Just sacc either Mine or Reisa and you are good to go

[regal rune]

Do we really need a ST healer for Set

Or is it possible to get by with just AoE healing

Because I don’t have options for an ST healer

Since I have to borrow damage in Sakurako instead

[radiant canopy]

depends on what floor you want to clear

you need to be able to effectively heal the obelisk

[hardy salmon]

on lower level floors (~80), I was getting away with Atsuko + Hanako

[native ocean]

(~99)

100 need O.Shig

[radiant canopy]

nah i'd hanako

i mean i'd build o.shigure but she's nowhere near as cheap to UE

[native ocean]

[regal rune]

Only 74

I’ve got Bond Gear 2 Hanako UE40 already there

[radiant canopy]

i'd say you'll be fine

[regal rune]

Until I get Kokona I’m not going any higher ofc

I have the rest of the Set core

[native ocean]

Yea, fine with Atsuko

There also T.Yuuka variant but iirc it only up to f60-ish

i forgot if it was bring serina or not

[sour garden]

I was prepping for chicken instead of set without realising chicken is still a week away

[regal rune]

Well if I need to slot in Atsuko that is. Idk if I do but I can

[short panther]

how far i can realistically get without atsuko, O shigure, S izuna?

[chrome parrot]

f100 still possible without those

[short panther]

but everyone else need to be lv 90 MMMM 999 UE50?

[chrome parrot]

some supports no

y would u UE50 dako NY kayoko and acari for example

[short panther]

Who can i replace Atsuko, O shigure with in this line up

Hoshino(Swimsuit) ,Izuna(Swimsuit)
,Sakurako, Hasumi(Track) , Ako(Dress)
Atsuko , Kotama, Shigure(Onsen), Himari , Akari(New Year) ?

[torpid basin]

Pretty sure you really want Kokona

Missing Ny Kayoko also hurts too though

Oh wait

I mis read the question

Hanako can replace O. Shigure

And ideally Kokona over Atsuko if you have too

You’ll probably have to borrow a Kokona if you plan on pushing high floors

[celest spindle]

If they have they own sakaruko

The borrow gonna either oShig sakaruko or kokonut for sure

NyKayako borrow can work to but she way lower than those 3

[regal rune]

If I find myself running into survival issues here, I should drop THasumi for Atsuko even low invest yeah

[regal rune]

I dont think there's a way to make a non UE Sakurako work as a main damage dealer even if I run all the meta supports after all

[rough inlet]

Which one do you think is better

Raising Sakurako to UE50 or raising S.Izuna to UE40

If you can only raise 1 student once

[chrome chasm]

starting from 3 star?

[regal rune]

can't do either since no eligma anyways but was just curious. Sakurako invest is only primarily for Set anyways

[rough inlet]

Starting from UE40 (Sakurako) and UE30(S.Izuna)

[chrome chasm]

they are about equal gain in dmg

i would go for izuna

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1208077308401950760.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

this is asuming you run common set team

[uncut panther]

It's between sun glasses and enhance+

So, I think better go with S.Izuna

[regal rune]

Alright here’s the plan instead. Minus the Sakurako borrow I need.

[native ocean]

[regal rune]

So if im using TMari

do i put her on the side with the DPS to ensure the lightning always strikes the other side?

[uncut panther]

Maybe not, with how limited the heal range, I think it's better to put her on the corner close to the pillar...

[chrome chasm]

you need to heal the pillar far from dps units

[regal rune]

ah, heal that one and keep it healthy?

[chrome chasm]

just heal it to full

[regal rune]

ah gotcha, im just double reading the guide i was sent

This part

so just heal the one on the left constantly to ensure lightning only strikes that and my supports

use Hanako EX to keep the rest of the team alive and DO NOT heal the right pillar at all

[dawn berry]

i didnt know if both have same hp it will strike the left one

i have been healing left one with kokona first on jp for 6 months straight

[robust fjord]

thats what ive been doin

[modest junco]

What is this channel for

[regal rune]

Set and any future FRR

[boreal atlas]

for the new upcoming game mode

that is soon to release on 9/25

[knotty heron]

I hate the name

[finite stump]

Pls don't hate the name

[boreal atlas]

its just a normal English translation done by the English localizers.

[regal rune]

can just call it Limit Release Battle or something

that's what it was officially called iirc

Anyways

Final lineup for floor 74 minus Sakurako borrow, not investing anymore resources

[native ocean]

FRR

[regal rune]

74 is my celing, if i can't clear that

i'll slowly trickle down

[boreal atlas]

For real real.

[regal rune]

Once I get the final piece of Set core

Kokona

then i'll be in better shape

got a UE50 SNonomi for Red too

[severe sentinel]

rate my set team(sakurako borrow)

[lean gale]

Migu/10

[native ocean]

No cost reg?

[severe sentinel]

no iwak

[native ocean]

Hima

[severe sentinel]

kotama replace

[native ocean]

no, Ako

U use Xerina anyway

[severe sentinel]

[native ocean]

And that U40 Miku looks.. idk

Either of em

[bold arch]

[sick thorn]

[upbeat dagger]

[radiant canopy]

-#

[upbeat dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/971249456546738226.webp?size=16&quality=lossless

[chrome chasm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/971249456546738226.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[severe sentinel]

3 more day left

[leaden tusk]

[hardy forge]

https://www.youtube.com/live/ALaUZUxo5Po

[sick tulip]

How do these options look for Set? I'm not sure what floor they might be able to accomplish already, or what I floor I could potentially aim for, or how much I ought to spend in pursuit of such? Can anybody advise please?

[slim iris]

in terms of just the units you own (not looking at investments), you should have everything you need to attempt f100

you actually own the full meta setup lol

just borrow sakurako

shoudl be lots of examples around

someone compiled a playlist of videos, let me find it for you

[sick tulip]

Is that on the basis of investing common resources only, or would star upgrades be recommended too?

[slim iris]

Floor 75-99 :
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KvBMo1VNtH42qkU_HfvSDtPnU0T-NNO
Floor 100+ :
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&si=lLw077YIgBnS-pLD

[slim iris]

stars wise it loosk fine tbh, the only unit that might need stars would be maybe oshig to ue30 if you use her, and nykayoko if you find that she dies too often

but you can go hanako route instead of oshig if you cant afford the elephs on oshig

nykayoko dying is technically avoidable but itll def save you the headache and an hour or two of figuring out how to micro her health lol

otherwise it looks like you have all the standard options

[sick tulip]

What's the underlying principle behind this? Is it something to do with Kokona basic targeting?

[slim iris]

no its just having enough health to not explode during the death zone to maximise (or rather minimise loss on) hanako healing

when your max HP is low youre more likely to over heal, and also more likely to be too slow to heal death away

so windows are tighter

but if youre precise you can technically avoid it

[sick tulip]

Okay, so minimising overheal... and I expect trying to manage O.Shigure/Atsuko tick timings

[slim iris]

yeh if you go that route

[sick tulip]

F100 would be a full spread of max investments across levels, gear and skills, right?

[slim iris]

levels gear and skills yeh, you should be expecting lv90 t9 on everyone

skills is just hwatevers important but every little bit might matter because a lot of people clear with like 1 second left on the clock...

so those 1% differences can end up helping you clear at the end

but youll know if you need it and dont need to commit to it right away

namely you get all the way to the end and youre like 3 seconds of AA away from winning lol

[sick tulip]

Ah, okay. That sounds safe yeah.

Is there a big impact on the stat transfer of specials, even?

Like Kotama shoes, etc.

[slim iris]

if you can afford it you should do it

[sick tulip]

I'm cognisant that I could easily get addicted to this gamemode and blow my budget.

I'm supposed to be aiming for an Urban HOD clear...

I think for the first season, I wanted to say that if I clear wherever the limit break materials are given out, I'll force myself to stop doing any further upgrades, to save myself from doing something I might regret.

[slim iris]

well if its fun...

[sick tulip]

...I knew you would say it! You're exactly the same as... a friend I have...

Maybe I should then... Since everybody is telling me the same thing...

[slim iris]

just dont have unfun when hod is here

[sick tulip]

Yeah, HOD is one of the big ones I'm worried about, if only it could come first so I could figure out how much I actually needed for it.

HOD and Blue Hiero, but Hiero seems kind of far away, and has some cross-applications with Set.

Let me check when exactly Season 1 ends.

Ah... There's yellow Greg too. I haven't checked that sufficiently yet...

It's somewhat deviating from the channel focus, but may I ask what the comfy comps for Yellow Greg were?

[chrome chasm]

you prob 2pan if you want comfy

comfy 1pan is expensive

maldy 1 pan is cheap

[sick tulip]

2pan is Iori + Makoto? Or Double Iori?

[chrome chasm]

2pan is iori akomari + makoto cleanup

[sick tulip]

I thought Iori + Akomari was the crazy maldy one?

[chrome chasm]

1 pan comfy is iori + makoto

[mint flax]

[sick tulip]

Only recall seeing one video of the Iori+Makoto on the same team. To confirm, is that the one with NY.Haruka?

[chrome chasm]

its with chanae/oshig

[sick tulip]

Okay, I'll find it

I'm guessing that PriestZ is showcasing the Iori -> Makoto 2pan, although he appears to field the teams in the opposite order.

In the case of Gregorius, I should at least be able to predict what teams I'll need to raise with fairly good accuracy.

Judging by how HOD went last time, I'd benefit from entering the raid season with a lot of liquid resources...

Honestly if we get more than five blue Set seasons without another HOD, I'd be tempted to call the Set upgrades more worthwhile.

They feel less niche as well, ironically, compared to HOD's CC mechanics...

The meta dps lineup is S.Izuna + Sakurako, is it?

Not S.Izuna + Umika?

[hallow ivy]

ye

[idle current]

Meta is sakurako + c utaha + umika

The one after that is sakurako + c utaha + s izuna

Then a further downgrade is sakurako + s izuna

[sick tulip]

I do feel like I'm seeing a lot more triple-dps than in the 75-99 playlist

[slim iris]

he says downgrade but its still the easiest and most reliable option for f100 btw

sakurako and sizuna that is

[sonic sorrel]

Excited to try it on Wednesday

Just going to f49 myself.

BTW Causew, thanks for the guide!

[slim iris]

pure perormance is irrelevant if youre not scored on it so downgrades arent downgrades

[sonic sorrel]

Very helpful

[sick tulip]

Is the "ease" graded in the context of ergonomics, or something?

[slim iris]

yes because umika is like impossible to use lol

folie knows how to copy timelines to the millesecond so its not an issue for him

[sonic sorrel]

Just so bizarre how the turret stats work

[idle current]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHGF81l0wdE&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtGE7cqoxiT18BK3Wz_zNT_m&index=53&t=1s

[sonic sorrel]

And that stability too....

[slim iris]

just write down every timer and execute it to the dot no worries

[sonic sorrel]

Their stab is like 350 yeah?

[idle current]

Just do something like this

[sick tulip]

Oh, so if I actually did stay up all night (totally won't, promise) then the Umika comp has the highest ceiling?

Wait, that's the only comp I can't actually do.

[slim iris]

yeh but what ceiling are you chasing

[idle current]

Its the comp that went the furthest

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1oq421A757/

[slim iris]

all f100 clears are equal outcome wise

[idle current]

Personally I'ma do something like this for a relatively slack clear

[slim iris]

just do the one thags easy fkr you

[idle current]

Then I use my Umika borrows

And see how far I go

[sick tulip]

I understand. I'm surely not going to go past F100 under any circumstance, I'd expect.

That would be a sign of crippling, spiralling addiction.

[sonic sorrel]

I've watched so many of those f100+ vids, it's crazy....

Looks really intense

[sick tulip]

I'm concerned about whether C.Utaha will need star investments to pay off, so I'll probably stick to S.Izuna + Sakurako as a default

[idle current]

[sick tulip]

There are some pretty intimidating UE spreads across the board, tbh...

[idle current]

Investing C Utaha shouldnt be your concern lol

[sonic sorrel]

Yeah I was going to say

[idle current]

U either have her or you dont

[sick tulip]

Is UE30 Kokona a breakpoint for something?

[idle current]

Your much better prioritizing a c utaha borrow

[sonic sorrel]

Pretty much all the units need big investment for high floors yeah?

[idle current]

While UE 50'ing your own Sakurako for future Set

[slim iris]

ue40 you mean

[idle current]

Relatively high, yea

[slim iris]

generally people shouldnt be ue50ing anything kek

ue40 sakurako is all you need with the sizuna team anyway

[idle current]

Das true

UE 40 Sakurako would carry over pretty well if thats something you are willing to afford

Although you might wanna figure out your other eligma priorities first

[sick tulip]

No crits from Set, to double check?

[sonic sorrel]

About to unlock my own Izuna to help me in Set myself, just to f49 anyways.

Just 5 more elephs

[sick tulip]

And no crits back on the red orb either, hmm....

It's probably actually quicker to just go in and put the S.Izuna thresholds to a trial by fire rather than messing around with the calculator.

[sonic sorrel]

S. Izuna just looks like by far the most convenient red orb popper for blue

That on top of her great dps and crit dmg res perma shred

And she cute.

[sick tulip]

Got to make sure she can actually kill it though

[sonic sorrel]

Yeah, of course.

[sick tulip]

Lots of videos putting her at UE40

[chrome chasm]

its outdoor

[sonic sorrel]

She's probably going to be the unit I borrow.

[sick tulip]

Though Passive+ is only CDmg, so I'm hopeful that the red orb isn't the reason for that

[chrome chasm]

you cant crit red orb so just raw dmg on your dps

[sonic sorrel]

Oh that's good to know.

[sick tulip]

Lol, first F100 Hanako reference I see is also a Miku flex

Huh, I also just noticed that there's no shield usage amongst any of these replays so far?

[merry thunder]

You want seimi?

[sick tulip]

I guess there's no obvious way to put S.Eimi in the team.

[faint bough]

very high floor would shield cause they need it to survive? but i don't do those floors?

[sick tulip]

Every other special must have better offensive utility, probably.

[lost bolt]

miku isn't just a flex in set

she's actually good there

[faint bough]

Miku finally meta after three years

[sick tulip]

I'm aware that her kit has its benefits, but is she actually best in slot? I was under the impression that she was a pick for people who were missing more preferable options.

[merry thunder]

Increases Recovery Boost so why not

Means you receive more hp healed

[lost bolt]

she's not best in slot in blue set

but all the highest cleared floors i've seen in red set use either her or seimi

[merry thunder]

A solid slot right?

[sick tulip]

Makes sense

[merry thunder]

Does set give titles too?

I wonder

[lost bolt]

it does

[sick tulip]

She appears to synergise better with S.Hoshino + Hanako

[lost bolt]

there's one at f50 and one at f100 iirc

[merry thunder]

Ayeeee i can do f50 freely

[sick tulip]

I still need to look more into the comparisons between O.Shigure and Hanako as well

But I think that's okay to come back to on another day

[faint bough]

f100 title may as well be whel badge

[chrome chasm]

im just trying my best for 97 and get out

[faint bough]

same

already nice i can find kokonalet hw

[mossy crown]

f74 enjoyer here

[hallow ivy]

f0 enjoyer here

[hardy forge]

You’re a f106 enjoyer

[hallow ivy]

nah just f100

i don't have the units to f106

i wish tho

[hardy salmon]

I'll probably have the students to f106 - but just not the will/ligma

[hallow ivy]

no oshig/sshiroko/nyakari

and 3* nykayoko for me so

it was over since the start

[radiant canopy]

isnt hanako enough

[dusk willow]

no sshiroko is pretty unlucky for this mode

[hallow ivy]

for floor 100 ye

not for 106

[hallow ivy]

ehhh not really

sshiroko not that big of a diff

[lost bolt]

tornade i think you are way underestimating sroko

[mighty pebble]

[hallow ivy]

?

[lost bolt]

i do not think himari is overcoming that 9 cost + def debuff diff

[hallow ivy]

she doesn't indeed

but she still does the most important part

[hardy salmon]

I mean, until you're pushing the highest floors - I don't think that 9 cost has that much impact

I was doing up to ~80 without Kokona which is a much larger loss in cost

[hallow ivy]

there was a clear with ako himari for floor 100

people are way overestimating sshiroko

[lost bolt]

yeah and that has acari

[hallow ivy]

which i'll borrow

[lost bolt]

u have ue50 sakurako?

+1 borrow let's goooo

[hallow ivy]

ue40

[zenith escarp]

What would be better for 100+: S.izuna/wappi/cutaha or nykayoko/wappi/cutaha and just buff the 2 dps

nvm, just gonna run nykayoko

[compact mantle]

Is Himari better than ny.haruka here?
No iwak and no ny.akari

[radiant canopy]

im gonna try anwyay

ok whelttr

[zenith escarp]

NyHaruka probably better

Juggling 13 second duration himari buff between 2 dps sounds like a pain in the ass, and himari ex doesnt stack with kotama

Also the longer 50 sec duration for nyharuka ex probably contributes more for the 2 sustained auto attack dps you're running

[compact mantle]

thanks

[sick thorn]

u guys not bringing cost recovery student? or am I tripping

[regal rune]

SRoko is the ideal one afaik

You can also run SHosh as a support

But yeah NYHaruka seems better

[pulsar zephyr]

no s izuna no sakurato am i cooked

[hallow ivy]

i'm pretty sure himari>nyharuka

yeahhh cuz he has like barely any stats that nyharuka reduces

so her ex is like almost useless

whereas himari ex actually do something

and you just spam it on sakurako

[dusk willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnUT9UwRp-c will 3* S.Eimi instead of S.ayane be good here if she's there to just increase ASPD without using her EX?

my Sayane is only 3* she might be a bit bad in terms of stat inheritance

im also planning to do this with 4* SIzuna so this maybe helps to gap the damage lost

[slow sage]

crit sub probably better otherwise youd see shifumi more

hope your izuna doesn't struggle to break orb

[dusk willow]

i might just stick with f97 if that star difference makes it impossible to clear

[regal rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031915219926138940/1287508419686826075/image0.jpg?ex=66f1cd28&is=66f07ba8&hm=61ccc3514e62d6ff06ffe922daf6499ae3c904b31673148d390dce2b39cf81d8&

Enough heal for floor 74 I i hope

[dusk willow]

oh apparently Ako works too instead of SAyane

[robust fjord]

But it says ue40

Hmm

Would that extra healing be make it or break it

[eternal cedar]

someone prob mentioned already but what's the reason for sakurako over c.utaha

oh that 50% mystic damage ok

[cunning linden]

SS vs B mood

[robust fjord]

Cutaha is still used as a subdps right

[cunning linden]

yeah

[eternal cedar]

doesn't seem like terrain applies in set

[robust fjord]

🤔 it does

I mean

If it didn't there's no reason for set dedicated chars to be outdoor SS

[eternal cedar]

looks fine

good enough to use let's go

[idle current]

Wdym good enough

You're kinda out of other options anyways

[silver fox]

Do I invest in s.tsurugi instead of c.utaha because permit elephs. They're both 3* atm

[cunning linden]

its outdoor terrain

[idle current]

I dont think you do

S tsurugi red armor iirc

[cunning linden]

special armor

[idle current]

Oh

[cunning linden]

but her AA isnt gonna be contributing that much

[idle current]

Shes a bit of a tank and dps mix

Unless ur really outa options and want to press forward with that

Otherwise s tsurugi wouldnt be for set

[silver fox]

I'm not keen on spending 2k eligma to max C.utaha

[idle current]

Ur not supposed to

If ur raising anyone its Sakurako

[silver fox]

I'm going to borrow sakurako

[idle current]

Why not raise sakurako and borrow c utaha instead

When Sakurako sees other raid or set use, but C Utaha is only for this one set

[silver fox]

I don't have sakurako

[idle current]

Unlucky

Just dont bother about c utaha

[eternal cedar]

i been waiting since i rolled mine to use

it's time

and i just saw it has terrain listed on schale

didn't see it before

[idle current]

What're you even trying to do

[cunning linden]

i was gonna say dont raise either bc kuroko later on but sakurako is still used for upper floors, just now as the side-dps role instead of main

[idle current]

Cause ur not forced to push highest floors

And c utaha is generally f100+ territory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVYhvuuM4U

[silver fox]

F90+

(+borrow sakurako)

[idle current]

No s izuna?

[silver fox]

I would replace tsurugi for s.izuna

If I had one

[cunning linden]

C mood outdoors without ue50

[idle current]

I dont think that'll be enough dps for floor 90+

[silver fox]

Do I invest in anyone atm or just copium until next fest

[native ocean]

Wth *2 S.Tsurugi on f90?

[hardy salmon]

[silver fox]

Enough eleph to 3*. Willing to spend eligma to 4

[native ocean]

Also where ur special healer

[silver fox]

Atsuko

[native ocean]

special

Atleast sustain

[silver fox]

If I run hanako, who do you think I drop

Cause I don't have d.ako

[native ocean]

U have Xerina?

[silver fox]

Nope

[native ocean]

welp

[silver fox]

I mean she's usable, but every other option she replaces reduces dps

[idle current]

If you cant guarantee survival, you cant guarantee dps

Atsuko isnt gonna be enough

Your best option is to not look for such high floors

[mossy crown]

@native ocean can u link me the set playlist?

[silver fox]

Ok, in other words who of the 4 supports contributes the least to dps

[mossy crown]

wanna see thasumi sakurako hw

[cunning linden]

regular ako is also pretty weak here too

only 16s buff window when u essentially want buffs active the entire 4.5 mins

[idle current]

Its in the threads here sir

[mossy crown]

oh

LOL

[silver fox]

Is tomoe a decent non whel sub for xerina/d.ako

[idle current]

Doesnt she only buff crit

[mossy crown]

hmmm

not too shabby i supposed

[idle current]

What are you after for high floor set clear anyways

[mossy crown]

just comfy f74

[idle current]

Interesting

[mossy crown]

alright looks doable

[idle current]

I wouldnt be making that investment

[idle current]

Not you

[mossy crown]

oh

k

[idle current]

The other guy going for f90+ with a smaller roster

[silver fox]

mainly the title

[idle current]

I actually dont know if all sets give the same titles

[mossy crown]

does the set raid unlock actually tmr or is it like challenge event where it unlock the day after the event?

[lyric atlas]

You have to beat f100 for a purple title sooo just comfy f75 title

[silver fox]

[eternal cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907158424851193926/1287588635876790324/image.png?ex=66f217dd&is=66f0c65d&hm=57ddd9a53761c2e81e740b2f0668a7e9c209cd468a0ce08acae79732a384bd57&

[idle current]

Ye

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1oq421A757/

I'ma run this as default

[idle current]

Whats gonna heal ur towers

Or is that something ur not gonna do

[eternal cedar]

but i have 2 hearlers in my team

my kokonut is ue30 and my atsuko is ue40 and i need to raise like 2-3 others so i go atsuko

[cunning linden]

kokona is very necessary

best to just drop one of ur side dps for her

[eternal cedar]

looks fine to me

[cunning linden]

u cant sustain obelisk on higher floors with just shigure and atsuko

[hardy salmon]

atsuko can solo heal the obelisks up to like floor 80 or so

[eternal cedar]

senovit must be built differently then

[cunning linden]

are u gonna UE40 ur shigure then

regardless its odd to intentionally not use kokona. senovit did it cuz he lacked it

u can check bunker to see how much he talks about how much of a pain in the ass the lack of kokona is

[eternal cedar]

i haven't updated planner but she's ue30 atm and ue40 would be np

most of the videos i've seen had her at ue50 so i'm going off of that

mine's ue30 so

seems the bigger issue instead of towers is keeping squishies alive with atsuko instead

but utaha has a nice hp pool over some of the alternatives so that's nice

[regal rune]

I’m guessing because losing cost down, cheap ex, and Kokona firing off basic very frequently

[cunning linden]

yup

[regal rune]

Is very much an oof

[regal rune]

Well imma have to cope for floor 74 the best I can since I’m not pulling Kokona until November. I’m borrowing Sakurako dw that’s just a place holder

I’ve got the rest of the core tho

[eternal cedar]

no issues throwing kokonut in over atsuko, everyone ue50 on her for other things ig

wait

something feels wrong

oh, no hoshino, right

[cunning linden]

also as causew describes it: "playing on 10 extra difficulty levels without her"

[eternal cedar]

ok i'm very lazy so kokonut it is

i'm wondering if 3* ako is enough now

[cunning linden]

should be

shes pretty bulky

itll be the rest of ur dps struggling

if something kills d.ako, then chances are the rest of ur team is dead too

[eternal cedar]

if ue50 seasona and sakurako are eating shit then it's doomed

oh sakurako has no hp ok

[silver fox]

if i run hanako, will i also need atsuko as a sub-AOE healer

or can that slot go to a buffer instead

for floor 85-100

[inland lava]

idk how good ny fuuka is in red set

i mean b yoshimi is expensive

10ex cost

[hallow ivy]

she's not expensive in there

[inland lava]

that's because the ex cost regenerates faster right?

[pulsar zephyr]

how does one survive set without sakurato/sizuna/nyakari

i have the rest of the students... i think

[inland lava]

I have ny akari but not ny kayoko

[cunning linden]

^

20 max cost + having 4 more students slotted in means way faster cost regen than normal

also u don’t need to use byoshi ex that often anyway. its 50s long

nyfuuka sub conflicts with kotama and her crit DMG buff conflicts with dako

[inland lava]

I see that's why

[native ocean]

they doesn't require u to "survive"

survival should req unit with sustain instead. ex: O.Shig, Hanako, S.Eimi, S.Shizuko, T.Yuuka, Kaede, Atsuko etc

[hallow ivy]

By survive i think he meant by actually being able to clear it

[native ocean]

well they aren't must have to clear also anyway as far as it's not high enough

are u gonna bring like Ny.Serika on Set, Torn?

[hallow ivy]

If she would do anything yes

But pretty sure set can't crit so

I could but ehhh

[native ocean]

[hallow ivy]

She'll be bis when there's a raid with 100% critrate

[dusk willow]

I doubt you even need the heal its just that everyone has ue40 Ako at this point

[robust fjord]

sounds about right lol

[dusk willow]

Since they borrowed a Sakurako I assume they can only test it with their own

[sick tulip]

NY.Serika still buffs attack does she not?

[hallow ivy]

It's barely anything

I think it's around 18%

In a quite small circle

[sick tulip]

[hallow ivy]

That you can barely control

[sick tulip]

Waiting until S.Serika instead then...?

[hallow ivy]

Still kinda bad

She's just an aoe special dps

Which is already ehhh

Good stats so

So that's good

Best cdmg statstick

[sick tulip]

If anybody could save Serika from having no future in Set, it would be you

[hallow ivy]

She's not made for set at all

[tawny dragon]

https://discord.gg/bluearchiveglobal?event=1287704492476989512

[trim viper]

I am looking forward to this.

[rugged zephyr]

@terse wharf @ebon vale are either of you raising sakurako

[ebon vale]

idk the min raise

i mean i can try getting her up

[merry thunder]

Obvly ue40 and upper

[rugged zephyr]

i have her but am asking if i need to give her sunglasses

for your borrow

basically

cus if someone else is doing it i probably dont need to

[lunar citrus]

so yeah tomorrow the fury of set will be added and wednesday it will began

[regal rune]

We can make our comps ahead of time then

Like in game

[rugged zephyr]

not yet because you can't put 10 students in 1 formation right now

[severe sentinel]

[ebon vale]

cant emergency raise sakurako

anyone i can focus on helping

[odd pine]

if u need u can add me i still have a slot

[mighty pebble]

Where b100

[odd pine]

in my draw

[rugged zephyr]

some other commonly used fury of set units are like,
nyakari, oshigure, kokona

as examples

just look at team comps used on floor 99, 100

[terse wharf]

Nope, I don't even have her

[rugged zephyr]

damn

[misty meteor]

Ive got a month to clear. My Sakurako need to hit the gym. Been focused on pero raid

[ebon vale]

i have her but eh

She's far from ready

I might can get her ready by the NEXT loop

At least i need to wait for my ligma resupply

[quartz cedar]

Do you post your drawings somewhere? I'd like to follow you but twitter seems outdated.

[odd pine]

i delete some

i will add when next time i finish all

[quartz cedar]

Thanks for the hw, I was actually going to ask for suggestions since I haven't started investing yet.

I have to selector Kokona, and I'll just borrow Sakurako since mine is uninvested

[blazing tartan]

what does SET do again

what does it give

[eternal cedar]

marginally higher numbers

[quartz cedar]

I was thinking something like that, but Kokona instead of C.Utaha since I'll raise her anyway

Since Kokona sees more use in raids

I added her, but I don't actually have her yet, I'll select her if she doesn't spook me on Nagisa's banner.

[cloud cypress]

A question about the mode. Are the students we use in some sort of cooldown after they have cleared a floor or we can keep using the same ones in each floor?

[sweet nexus]

@terse oriole

https://youtu.be/YtcKKWybhbY?si=EXaZvk8RC6eMeShb

Quan

[mighty pebble]

Wtf is this role

[sweet nexus]

Pee

[mighty pebble]

I mean how did you get it

[hexed robin]

I most would built up S. Izuna over Sakurako

[native ocean]

because that cheaper

[sweet nexus]

Sign up for the Minecraft server

[mighty pebble]

The what

[sweet nexus]

#1285780526585745501

[mighty pebble]

Thank you

[native ocean]

[robust fjord]

Monkemoo Minecraft server is boomin

[native ocean]

Wow, can i join?

But i don't have MC acc

[merry thunder]

goota raise hanako too

[small pike]

Speedrun making a Microsoft account

[terse oriole]

I have everyone here except c.hanae

But my izuna is 3 star

[sweet nexus]

There are alternatives healer

[terse oriole]

Does set come out after maint

[sweet nexus]

After

25th i think

24 for you

[sweet nexus]

I think is 25th 3am uk time

[sterile schooner]

Oshigure

[sweet nexus]

Oshig cant solo carry heal right?

Or just need high investment

[sterile schooner]

Need investment

[terse oriole]

I dont have

[sweet nexus]

That would work

I can save a healer for ny akari

Special slot i mean

[sterile schooner]

https://youtu.be/x2hoP-W2DOA?si=vkbmlhywFd0H7cfG

[sweet nexus]

God gives his strongest soldier no iwak

[sterile schooner]

Nyakari is a must for blue set

[sweet nexus]

Yeh i have her

I can build her

[sterile schooner]

Kotama also for set

[sweet nexus]

Himari kotama ny akari oshig

My plan for special slot

[sterile schooner]

Koharu?

[sweet nexus]

S.nin ue50
Borrow wappi
Ue50 kona
3* 87 mmmm dako
Ue40 ny kayoko
Max shoshino

[terse oriole]

Yes

[sterile schooner]

You can use her

Or atsuko

[sterile schooner]

Wappi is sakurako?

[sweet nexus]

Yes

[sterile schooner]

Ic

[sterile schooner]

No ssroko?

[sweet nexus]

No

[sweet nexus]

Easier way
Is

Max wappi myself
Borrow shirok

Iwak
Oshig
Ny akari
Kotama

[sweet nexus]

But maxing wappi is expensive

[sterile schooner]

Yeah dps

[sweet nexus]

Cant farm her as well

[sterile schooner]

Borrow

[sweet nexus]

[sterile schooner]

Yeah, borrow

[sweet nexus]

Iwak?

[sweet nexus]

Or wappi

[sterile schooner]

Sakurako

[sweet nexus]

Yeh

No score here anyway

[sterile schooner]

She's your dps

[sweet nexus]

Just need to clear

[sterile schooner]

Main dps

[sweet nexus]

I can build her
Borrow iwak
but cost so much

So id just try iwakless

I did blue binah with 39065 iwakless
I can do this

[robust fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugK_Nw9pT20
valiant came back with this

hmm

[robust fjord]

ssg potential r1

[sweet nexus]

Nah

Not r1

[sterile schooner]

F75+ is like torment in raid

[robust fjord]

ok but u know r10 is still impressive

u will be r10 with iwak

trust

[sweet nexus]

Im aiming for the r18+

[robust fjord]

ok cast iron feces

go bacc to #🗣️ba-general

[sweet nexus]

Nuu i need to cook furry raid

Id try iwakless borrow wappi

If that doesnt work ill build mine and borrow

[mighty pebble]

[robust fjord]

good lucc

[sweet nexus]

U isnt that good here right

Umika

[robust fjord]

only if u are balding high floor speedrun

but

even then..

u dont need her

[sweet nexus]

Yeh

Poor umika

I like her

But

[robust fjord]

like if u aren't doing anything high floor

[sweet nexus]

No she is cute

[robust fjord]

no reason to do it

[robust fjord]

i agree

[sweet nexus]

But i need band and iwak and maid moi fund

Then fest

Maybe i am even skipping moi

[robust fjord]

do u whel?

[sweet nexus]

Not unless really tight on pyrox

Id very much prefer not to

[robust fjord]

oh

so u whel

[sweet nexus]

Less than dolphin

[robust fjord]

mmm

ok

[sweet nexus]

Definitely less than joe and quob

[robust fjord]

I kinda saw quan is whel

[sweet nexus]

I needed to recover from pulling for d.ps68

Dumb arona ended my stash

I really hope i can do band event within a spark

[lone raptor]

Guys anyone remembers approximate size of the coming update?

[inland lava]

it's not a big update

expect around less than 1GB

[lone raptor]

Thx

[radiant canopy]

most of the update is technically already in the game

it's just the event, the group story, and the boss

[inland lava]

no wonder why you need to download 7GB of data instead of 5GB

even though set is still not there

[radiant canopy]

well, there's also the KR voicelines

[runic bolt]

Btw
FRR wont start until tomorrow

Some bond for more heals
As Set prep

[lean veldt]

f100+ does nykayo need ue to survive or can i cope with 3 stars

[sick tulip]

I've ben told that 3 stars can survive with the proper heal timing, though I don't know how precisely that's done, or with which healer combinations it is or isn't possible.

It appears to me that she would be the weak link in on the max HP front, though.

[lean veldt]

yeah

im thinking about bringing her up to ue30

but that would leave me with only 100 eligma after ue50 sakurako

[sick tulip]

Traditional defensive investment theory still applies: Try first, and don't upgrade if nothing dies.

And with so many healers on board, and so much damage, healer upgrades have more mileage in theory.

The other strikers need HP only to avoid getting one-shot.

To digress, the fact that Fury of Set unlocks after clearing Normal Stage 5-1 - The irony is amusing me.

[hardy salmon]

same whel club as lethe

[inland lava]

normal stage 5-1 is in abydos

hmm make sense

[hardy salmon]

lol you get Set before you unlock pvp

[inland lava]

though there's no way a new sensei can beat even stage 1

of set

[sick tulip]

Some new Senseis might be stepping into Set before even seeing Eden Treaty Hiero.

Surely a Vol.F clear requirement, at the very least, would have made more sense.

[hardy salmon]

funny enough there's a VolF spoiler warning on it

b/c of

[finite stump]

[sick tulip]

[hasty quartz]

A borrow can solo

[inland lava]

i forgot about borrows

indeed

[merry thunder]

The upcoming game mode feels like an amusement park 🎢
There are many rollercoasters by section/tier and not all people can take the bigger ones

"Section 3 is better anyways, aruji dono"

[hardy salmon]

"floor 74 looks better anyway, aruji dono"

[merry thunder]

What are some other dps options other than sakurako and s izuna?

[merry thunder]

I guess the doc showcased more DPS options #🗼final-restriction-release message

[atomic gorge]

damn i gonna skip band banner

[sleek yoke]

Seth weak against blue and Yellow?

[mellow bison]

is FoS more tedious than insane/torment raids

[chrome parrot]

tedious?

[desert cave]

u have a month to do it

till it cycles to next season

[pulsar zephyr]

Oh is it perma

[desert cave]

perma monthly cycled content.

[pastel oar]

Is this what's the new mode is going to be called and is this the server to talk about it?

[chrome parrot]

yes

[pastel oar]

How hard is it for y'all in JP servers

[chrome parrot]

well... the difficulty it based on how far you want to push

its an endless challenge

[pastel oar]

I don't quite get the difference between the tiers and how it's also endless

They're 2 separate things?

[chrome parrot]

its written in the docs thats pinned here

[pastel oar]

Oh neat, thanks

[pulsar zephyr]

i feel like I suddenly need to pull Sakurato now

[pastel oar]

Is it over for me if I'm maxed out and I can't clear torment chat? Am I washed?

[pulsar zephyr]

but I’m broke

[chrome parrot]

it depends how much ur willing to learn and practice

torment isnt something that can be just unga bungaed in 1 go yet

[pastel oar]

Building over 5 teams just to take down one boss is just too much of a hassle for me

[chrome parrot]

welp theres rly not much u can do then

u can either wait until torment becomes trivial overtime

or u gotta put in some effort

nothin wrong with slaccing on insane or below diff thoo

[late lily]

Set has unlimited retries (so, no ticket-like currency that is used for attempts like in raids and jfd) and appears to reset monthly. Does that mean that I can slacc until the last day of the month to do the content and collect the rewards? It’s not that I want to slacc; rather, I’m kind of starved for resources at the moment and need time to invest in several core students

[chrome parrot]

ye u can slacc till the end of the month

[rugged zephyr]

yes but make sure you have enough assistants

[late lily]

GOOD point. Because, iirc, each borrow (from the same person) can only be used once per day

[unborn blaze]

so does a borrow only count if you clear?

[late lily]

I thought about using ibuki in place of kotama because I don’t have kokona. So serina would occupy the slot that kotama would have, and ibuki would occupy the slot that kokona would have. But it appears that, starting from tier 4, blue armor is mandatory 😩

[chrome parrot]

yeee in higher floors kotama atk down debuff basic skill actually matters

[late lily]

Too many of my students that would be good for Set haven’t been invested in basically at all. Like, lvl 1 1111 000. Questionable if I can get them all up to snuff within a month

… maybe clearing f74 would be a good goal for now

[chrome parrot]

ye dont invest too hard in this content if ur strained on resources

the payout for this content is very small

[late lily]

I suppose I can focus investments on students that are good in raids, like Sakurako (for goz)

[sick tulip]

You can run yellow tanks, I’ve heard, provided they have high enough defence, but most tanks don’t offer any benefit, since Set always hits in AoE.

[late lily]

right

[sick tulip]

I saw B.Hoshino tank used in recent seasons, but I’m dubious as to how valuable even she really is - It felt more like a demonstration run.

I’ve seen a Natsu screenshot too, but same thing. I bet Natsu doesn’t even buff the correct people.

[late lily]

I hate it when basic skills buff the wrong people

especially nykayoko’s basic. lol

thanks for buffing akane

wait. I mean crit

[sterile valve]

I've used S.Miyako in Set and honestly didn't notice much of a difference despite her relatively aggresive skills and being able to survive until the end

found more use from (at the time) level 70 D.Atsuko who died after like 1-2 min

[late lily]

Atsuko (Dress)?

[sterile valve]

Yes

[chrome parrot]

[sick tulip]

Atsuko (Dead after 2 min)?

[late lily]

I blew extra nose air from that ^

[sterile valve]

yeah I would upgrade her more if I had the mats

[sick tulip]

I can’t think of any tanks other than the usual fare who seem promising. At that point a blue tank works just fine.

Standing on the side and not dying can be enough of a benefit if I wanted to heal the obelisk with AoE auras, etc.

[late lily]

Oh I thought you meant just for baseline cost regen lol

[sick tulip]

That too! That’s also still important.

[late lily]

So, like, Tsubaki, just… standing there

[sick tulip]

But if I had to take a tank on the team, I’d imagine that one needs to squeeze value out of them to make up the dps difference of them being practically a tree.

[late lily]

being practically tsukuyo

hehe

Is the himari here mostly for cost regen, or is the 15.47 second buff effective?

[robust fjord]

mostly cost regen

since her buff window is short it isn't fitting for set

[late lily]

Yeah, this is what I figured

[robust fjord]

she enables ex hypercarry

[late lily]

how important is quickly being able to rotate through skills in Set, since it’s AA-based?

[robust fjord]

the thing with set is there's an answer for rotation

and the easiest way to deal with set is

just copy hw one by one

[chrome parrot]

probably the hardest part about set is managing all ur augments and buffs

cuz theres alot to manage

[robust fjord]

yes

making the entire team alive is also pretty hard

if u dont time healing well especially with hanako ig

[late lily]

Ouch

Also, tfw I haven’t invested in any of my blue AA

[robust fjord]

just slacc f49 and sleep

[late lily]

I’ll probably borrow sizuna and put some light investment in sakurako

[robust fjord]

I'll just copy kr vet hw when it releases

need hanako variant

[late lily]

my investments are so lacking that I’m not sure if I can copy any hw. Will just have to cook myself on lower floors lmao. But that shouldn’t be too bad

[mossy crown]

just gonna wait for kuroko and slacc

[late lily]

Damn, that’s like an entire quarter of a year

[mossy crown]

it's fine

no resource needed from set

im no speedrunner

[quaint river]

set is blue on release right?

[torpid basin]

ye

[tired crystal]

Oh no she's dead 😱 😱 😱

[merry thunder]

Does set have the s3+ stats or the launch stats in jp?

[opaque notch]

We don't know yet

It hasn't started

[severe sentinel]

starts at tmr

just wait

[lunar citrus]

Vol f spoiler ahh jumpscare

[cosmic prairie]

helo guys wher to find guide

mb I see pins now thnx bye

[echo mulch]

Spoiler jump scare

[merry thunder]

Whats the recommended investment for sakurako for floor 74?

[zenith crystal]

ue 40 based on this pic

[cosmic prairie]

isi t me or no prologue for this

[lunar citrus]

Wait tomorrow

[cosmic prairie]

ight thnx

[jagged hull]

Am i cooked if i don't have sakurako

[subtle ridge]

no

just borrow 1

[regal rune]

you're much more cooked if you're missing any of the following:

NYKayo, DAko, Kokona

[jagged hull]

I just recently rolled kokona so i guess i'll borrow sakurako

Yeah i know i actually have someone to use shanhaijing mats on wow

[hollow steppe]

this Raid has no ticket right? i can do it later?

[hallow ivy]

You get a month with as many attempts as you want

[sage heath]

What is this about?

100+ floors within a month is crazy

[merry thunder]

the first section is easy to clear in a single day i guess

[mossy crown]

not really

u can skip floor

so like

if u clear floor 24 once

u get all reward from 1-24

it's per tier

1-24 25-49 50-74 75-99 100-124

[merry thunder]

never knew that, nice
never mind, it's on the pins

[mossy crown]

so yeah if u wanna slacc do only f24 f49 then bail out

if u think u can push a bit then f74

if u wanna get the most out of the limit break reward do till f97

or u can try to push as far as u can

[oblique turtle]

Give 1 or much free pull on regular banner every day NEXON!

[sly prawn]

who is good to share for this? the new akari?

[foggy wasp]

Is borrowing d Ako better than borrow sakurako if no d ako?

[hallow ivy]

If you borrow dako what would be your dps

[worldly leaf]

is 4 star d ako enough

[hallow ivy]

Yes

[sly rain]

oh nice only have to do the top floors in each section, thought you had to do levels 1 by 1

[hushed sentinel]

Surely borrow sakurako can carry me to f97 with this

[hallow ivy]

No sizuna?

[cloud ruin]

I hope friends got good Sakurako borrow

[hushed sentinel]

Nope

[cloud ruin]

[hallow ivy]

Hmmm

Maybe you can cook something yea?

[hushed sentinel]

That’s what I’m trying to but

Honestly

I was gonna build stsurugi too but not worth the eligma hassle and creds

When I have 57M7 ue50 thasumi lying around

Gonna be so cope with that

[cloud ruin]

I leveled up Onsen Shigure and NY Akari (Sub still lv6) Hope its enough

[hallow ivy]

Only issue i see is that thasumi has low hp

[hushed sentinel]

Ig

But my 350 ligma and 3* stsurugi also ain’t it

[hallow ivy]

Yeaaa

No better choice anyway

[hushed sentinel]

Yeah

Maybe not f100

Probably can push for 90+

[hushed sentinel]

How cope is tyuuka instead of atsuko

[cloud ruin]

Dpsloss cope

[hushed sentinel]

But tyuuka have mystic effective

Surely

[cloud ruin]