I wish i have yakumo🥀
#💬gameplay-discussion
slate pier
strange ridge
past spruce
sturdy scarab
Ive genuinely never seen a bikeroko in pvp this season
Partially because my bracket is super static, but i feel like she doesnt do much
strange ridge
Ive genuinely never seen a bikeroko in pvp this season
Partially because my bra...
50% atk down
odd geyser
I'm fine with keeping my def static
covert spoke
she just does a lot of damage
sturdy scarab
Sorry, *on defense
slate pier
Shiroko bike only use for attack
odd geyser
even as people learn to counter it
slate pier
Can't def
odd geyser
granted, I might need to switch after we get Kei
strange ridge
ngl, I love how easy most yakumo defs are to beat
Aside from Yuuka cheese, what else can break through?
odd geyser
Aside from Yuuka cheese, what else can break through?
have you seen the double lvl 1 650 death strats
covert spoke
is she really all that different from a boshi def
odd geyser
rip kirara and saori
sturdy scarab
Ive become an aris pvp enjoyer now against yakumo
past spruce
Aside from Yuuka cheese, what else can break through?
There's also D.Hina and Miyako
odd geyser
sturdy scarab
have you seen the double lvl 1 650 death strats
These are hilarious
strange ridge
have you seen the double lvl 1 650 death strats
No
past spruce
If Eimi is at d1 or d4
slate pier
No f2p has UE DMich and Yakumo
Simp and roll michirun🐧
past spruce
And if D.Hina doesn't get hit by S.Hanako
odd geyser
No f2p has UE DMich and Yakumo
me sacc both dtsukuyo and dmichiru in 50 pulls 
slate pier
If Eimi is at d1 or d4
You mean this
polar orbit
dress hina in pvp nooooo
past spruce
You mean this
Yeah
polar orbit
crazy gamer
frail glen
2 WEEKS OF TRIPLE NORM?
orchid axle
New auto rework:
Auto will now use all of dhina's ex shots repeatedly before going to the next skill
polar orbit
the dhina runners are truly built diff
polar orbit
are you okay
frail glen
no I am EternalFEel
odd geyser
orchid axle
no I am EternalFEel
I can feel you eternally
strange ridge
WE ARE HAVING 2 WEEKS OF TRIPLE NORM
3× OF 0% IS STILL 0
frail glen
slate pier
I have only 3k pvp coin for 4 weeks. Is it enough?
orchid axle
strange ridge
we getting comm buff soon
Definitely not during Fest
frail glen
yeah what I am trying to say is that
the buff to comm later on devalues the current 3x comm
quiet raft
Save till qol
echo oar
and omnis don't devalue the current 3x norms? 
frail glen
and omnis don't devalue the current 3x norms? <:KoyukiStare:1149185819920322661>
the thing is
equips are more valuable than comm
quiet raft
Post haruka kit
echo oar
equips are more valuable than comm
yeee that's fair
idle rampart
echo oar
and yeah I need dress kits 
slate pier
xp reports are infinite after all
I don't have enough to up all student🐧
old rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NijBPgStOHo
goddamn dhina just annihilates eimi in fever
odd geyser
goddamn dhina just annihilates eimi in fever
and then even if you lose her in fever, that means you still just win b/c your hp percentage is still higher
frail glen
Watch d haruka be the backline special slot kisaki buffer
i mean her NY alt already has cost recovery, just give her an option to hyper buff AA
stuck valley
source??
strange ridge
THE SOURCE IS THAT THEY MADE IT THE FUCK UP
stuck valley
smh kids these day
slate pier
From my clb i don't know that is truth or not
echo oar
dmuts is a blue geb special dealer according to my sources 
slate pier
Just wait
odd geyser
dmuts gonna add new l2d features
stuck valley
tall glacier
stuck valley
I know this
stuck valley
This is Delusional
supple star
odd geyser
ive always been f2p, meds are p2w
slate pier
Can i ask 4 months to fox squad banner can i give 2 or 3 fox to bond 50 with a little gift left
covert spoke
3 and a half
restive kraken
ive always been f2p, meds are p2w
Thats actually crazy
slate pier
I just gave almost gifts to my michirun🥀
polar orbit
b100 michiru incoming
covert spoke
ive always been f2p, meds are p2w
pay 2 lose
odd geyser
slate pier
b100 michiru incoming
No i will like having a lot of b50 more than b100
polar orbit
i'm the same way
covert spoke
<a:ReisaFreaky:1383175886911705109>
do you think a combat achievement log would work in ba
steep vortex
dmuts gonna add new l2d features
🤏
sturdy scarab
Combat achievement?
covert spoke
with the new jp mock
odd geyser
do you think a combat achievement log would work in ba
it'd actually be fun af
strange ridge
ive always been f2p, meds are p2w
So you're on meds
sturdy scarab
Ohh
restive kraken
The one time i agree with the menace that is folie
That is simply not true
There are some many things you agree
slate pier
i'm the same way
How many b50 do you have now
odd geyser
Combat achievement?
artificial challenges to a boss fight implemented by the devs
strange ridge
artificial challenges to a boss fight implemented by the devs
How would that even work out?
restive kraken
Are you still at the country side rn
covert spoke
nah the fights are the same
sturdy scarab
No im in tokyo
odd geyser
could be simple target times, clear a boss with certain students, clear a boss without certain students
restive kraken
Oh shoot
bronze prairie
Does anyone have Arisu Maid UE06? I want to borrow it.
slate pier
Back to random goz patterns
I affaid that🥶
restive kraken
When you visit kbooks remember to check the two sections
strange ridge
could be simple target times, clear a boss with certain students, clear a boss w...
That mught be something that can work on whatever new mode JP has to offer
restive kraken
The doujin section and the official Nexon merch section
They’re all second-hand goods
But separately placed
strange ridge
Though I think the new mode might be a gauntlet
polar orbit
How many b50 do you have now
still just 1 iwak. I'm working on triple idols
they are all b40
strange ridge
Though I think the new mode might be a gauntlet
Standard Raid, JFD, FRR, no repeat stuxent used.
tall glacier
could be simple target times, clear a boss with certain students, clear a boss w...
I mean we already have the first two for missions
slate pier
still just 1 iwak. I'm working on triple idols
So chilling guy
polar orbit
sturdy scarab
When you visit kbooks remember to check the two sections
I'll make sure to
I might do a mini trip today to akihabara
polar orbit
So chilling guy
yeah i spent 90% of my gift boxes on the final iwak stretch. Gotta recoup now
covert spoke
its like theres tiers of difficulties, easy would be like "clear chesed on extreme with only letting the core open once"
grandmaster tier is like "kill chesed on torment without using an ex skills on the core"
slate pier
yeah i spent 90% of my gift boxes on the final iwak stretch. Gotta recoup now
All iwak b50
sturdy scarab
its like theres tiers of difficulties, easy would be like "clear chesed on extre...
Kill chesed in 1 core opening
Blue
Good luck
slate pier
So good
odd geyser
do you think a combat achievement log would work in ba
defeat kree with a salamander becomes beat srkr with shimiko and asuna as john nexon intended
restive kraken
its like theres tiers of difficulties, easy would be like "clear chesed on extre...
covert spoke
asuna smacks...
strange ridge
Kill chesed in 1 core opening
👨🦲
frail glen
wait
sturdy scarab
Which club/group would be the easiest to do this with?
frail glen
why did the schedule stop at junme 23rd
odd geyser
probably problem solver 68
frail glen
we have 30 days i june
covert spoke
Which club/group would be the easiest to do this with?
ninjas tbh
sturdy scarab
probably problem solver 68
Yeah thanks to the dps queen kayoko rahhhhh
odd geyser
I mean, they all have enough alts
sturdy scarab
strange ridge
Only field students with their clubs
GDD
odd geyser
Kayokos
covert spoke
I was gonna say a combat task could be beating binah yellow without def down but
lethe is here so he'd like that too much
restive kraken
Dress Haruka being a tank is straight up evil
odd geyser
nah, I'd kanna and wakamo
restive kraken
Having her ruin her dress by combat
restive kraken
I see how you guys are
restive kraken
I dont really care about D Ako’s dress being ruined cause of how she is
strange ridge
And D. Saori
restive kraken
Perhaps you would be reminded of Haruka’s personality
covert spoke
someone like haruka should not be wearing something so pretty
strange ridge
Where she literally rips off her dress
odd geyser
restive kraken
I feel like you completely missed the joke
strange ridge
Bruh
covert spoke
what could've been...
restive kraken
She deserved to look pretty ok
polar orbit
suit haruka made me ga
that's NOT how that works
stuck valley
is it gay to love your wife
polar orbit
yes
echo oar
suit mutsuki too
polar orbit
there's nothing gayer than liking women
stuck valley
suit mutsuki doing what a suit should do
steep vortex
i much prefer both dresses, but that’s a personal opinion
polar orbit
i like dress mutsuki but suit haruka
restive kraken
Both dresses
sleek flicker
polar orbit
suit haruka looks so cool and confident
serene path
@hallow plank
old rose
kotama + msuzumi ?
stuck valley
https://fixupx.com/en_bluearchive/status/2058775068533284939
wait it's not snail
steep vortex
suit haruka looks so cool and confident
dress haruka is cute and beautiful
stuck valley
it's not in gpd pin yet
steep vortex
<@1263241279823806516>
odd geyser
yeah, I was wondering why not Chihiro over Kotama
serene path
kotama + msuzumi <:ReisaDerp:1440245878341374043> ?
i dident have mats for chihiro
i balded that clear
serene path
i find it funny how b kazoos out dps'ed ue60 s nonomi
echo oar
dharuka is actually adorable, but sharuka is real charming too
tired wyvern
do you guys do 3x pyrox refresh starting tomorrow ?
stuck valley
Is track Haruka also in game at one point?
polar orbit
yes
echo oar
maybe that was from some 3d thing?
tired wyvern
She looks good Man
orchid axle
Is track Haruka also in game at one point?
Is brick haruka an option too?
stuck valley
Is brick haruka an option too?
yes
orchid axle
🧱
echo oar
actually, seeing it this way, dharuka is too similar to nyharuka for me
still sparrow
I'm almost considering 6x on triple hards, but maybe not worth.
60 pyros for 7.2 farmable eleph
echo oar
still great, but the extra variety from her having a suit alt would have been exceptional
orchid axle
I'm bricking my jp alt for haruka
You bricker
You're the one who even told me to go all out on fest
polar orbit
still great, but the extra variety from her having a suit alt would have been ex...
exactly
orchid axle
And now I see you here, bricking and bricking
polar orbit
but i think the general populous is not ready for women in suits
stuck valley
And now I see you here, bricking and bricking
bro
tired wyvern
how to Farm Toki again ?
polar orbit
i dont think they know what to do with it
orchid axle
I see Haruka I roll
Okay then
tired wyvern
i don't get it, how to farm Toki Armed
covert spoke
actually, seeing it this way, dharuka is too similar to nyharuka for me
yes, both times shes wearing things that are too pretty for her, its so annoying, but means dharuka is prob striker
stuck valley
I'm gonna skip
ok
echo oar
noooo the prettiness causes a gap!!
stuck valley
have fun bricking
polar orbit
i'll pull if she does something i need
crude sable
maybe shell be crab meta 
echo oar
do we get any new info in 8 minutes
polar orbit
dress info?
covert spoke
but i think the general populous is not ready for women in suits
eh just add a pencil skirt ||for now||
polar orbit
eh just add a pencil skirt ||for now||
a compromise. i accept these terms
stuck valley
do we get any new info in 8 minutes <:KoyukiStare:1149185819920322661>
likely 3 hours and 8 minutes
polar orbit
global patch notes yeah not until 2am pst
but JP twitter might give us updates
about jp
echo oar
you can't check react me and then say "oh actually it's 3 hours later"!!!!!!
polar orbit
you can't check react me and then say "oh actually it's 3 hours later"!!!!!!
i thought you meant about the alts
not for us
stuck valley
you can't check react me and then say "oh actually it's 3 hours later"!!!!!!
I was clicking
echo oar
yeah about the alts
polar orbit
breh
echo oar
psmh psmh
polar orbit
echo oar
hell yeah 🔥
stuck valley
natsustarefront is so fr
polar orbit
i love my fire react
echo oar
still sparrow
I guess I can farm all the good hards with 3x refresh anyway what do i need pina elephs for... better save pyros and do 30x3 
polar orbit
oh no audiens is a sobber
stuck valley
sobber...
echo oar
I use it accordingly! you've seen how I use it!!
orchid axle
steady prairie
fiery kiln
oh wait ba jp comeback login bonus is added
polar orbit
i introduced my non-ba friends to and it was a mistake. now they use it on me all the time
i am suffering
stuck valley
propaganda posting
echo oar
it's actually too good
stuck valley
smh
fiery kiln
steady prairie
polar orbit
true
stuck valley
polar orbit
echo oar
steady prairie
the purple was a bit more susge
covert spoke
idk i slacc 012
polar orbit
boshi pinball is actually really easy if you just try it
people dont wanna try it though
steady prairie
i think for blue p1 mika it's also ass
covert spoke
it just chare............ cap cost... :33.00 hikari -> boshi out of stun in between smika hikari
echo oar
bosh pinball with both satsuki and gpina in the world raid looks wild
polar orbit
bosh pinball with both satsuki and gpina in the world raid looks wild
do i dare try it
echo oar
I'm half-tempted, cause maybe you don't even have to pinball as much with it only taking 2:40 or whatever
steady prairie
the what now, lmao
covert spoke
i think u can use hod to pinball too cant u
echo oar
free movement with the phase change, maybe 1 pinball before and after
polar orbit
hod pinball?
covert spoke
the hod pillar
polar orbit
ohh
dusky terrace
do i dare try it
if there's no leaderboard in world raid why even bother doing this
echo oar
polar orbit
if there's no leaderboard in world raid why even bother doing this
clearing a raid in only 1 team means you use less tickets, and thus can do more raid runs for more rewards
the standard geburah tor clear without pinball is 2 teams. Although in world raid i think the boss skills you obtain can make it clear in 1 team
so
dusky terrace
there's non-pinball 1pan team, no?
covert spoke
5 hag team looks susge
echo oar
yeah you're looking at em
covert spoke
thats too many
steady prairie
2nd one comfy
polar orbit
i mean if im gonna pinball normal geburah i might as well pinball world raid geburah right
right...
empty verge
old rose
hmm do i do a worse team so i can save on borrow creds ?
crude sable
doing mald strats for no leaderboard advancement...
covert spoke
no
crude sable
gws
polar orbit
it's june 3rd, 2026. Some say xtacy is still balding tor shirokuro
the world raid is half over
but he is still in srkr
covert spoke
hmm do i do a worse team so i can save on borrow creds <:ReisaDerp:1440245878341...
if u 2 pan ur losing creds from not borrowing
UNLESS
echo oar
gah, no new twitter post
covert spoke
its the very last point of that phase
polar orbit
2 of my borrows are locked to skanna and satsuki, i'll have to see if i need a 3rd
old rose
i mean i can do that 3rd team with just single borrow
worldly sun
2 of my borrows are locked to skanna and satsuki, i'll have to see if i need a 3...
wtf dmich puller whel
old rose
but it involves me having to build everyone
worldly sun
Wheleft
covert spoke
sort of
worldly sun
Yes and no
polar orbit
im more scared of the hod 1pan than the geburah 1pan
covert spoke
there are points where you are able to choose
worldly sun
Hod 1pan is free
polar orbit
i didnt even come close to hod 1pan on the last TA
worldly sun
Borrow ckot
covert spoke
like chesed / hod
worldly sun
And rest is uneru spam
covert spoke
you will want to do hod because 1pan chesed is a little bald
empty verge
it's june 3rd, 2026. Some say xtacy is still balding tor shirokuro
did it 3 times on mock... then burnt all tixs
polar orbit
brutal
crude sable
i have to remember how to hod wanpan again 
i hate that raid so much
restive kraken
You know what they say, never mock full run
crude sable
wait is the d equivalent torment?
worldly sun
echo oar
jp had 23 days of 3x 
old rose
4 weeks is normal no
echo oar
and since we had phase 1 extended, that goes to 28 days
still sparrow
4 weeks of triple ap grind
fleet narwhal
4 weeks is normal no
no tf it isnt
worldly sun
Hope y’all got your 3k pvp coins
polar orbit
only one 3x scrims though. stupid
echo oar
not having an event that takes priority is wild though
crude sable
holy 3x
dusky terrace
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
my pvp coins haven't recovered from dmichiru event and now we got this
echo oar
just a straight month of grinding gear/comms
still sparrow
4 weeks is normal no
half a year ago was only 2 weeks and the other 2 weeks were 3x lessons or some other scam
polar orbit
i might take one of the 3x coms light and only do 2x pvp
old rose
still is a 3x
fleet narwhal
ye and the 3x was during a welfare event
dusky terrace
buying monthly+half-monthly seems tempting...
old rose
polar orbit
nori hates my guides :c
echo oar
it giveth and it taketh
covert spoke
nori hates my guides :c
its okay enough but...
polar orbit
i did ask for feedback for the entire last 24 hours!
worldly sun
He’s mad cos you didn’t let him write it
polar orbit
people had plenty of time to give suggestions
covert spoke
i was busy..
restive kraken
Shouldnt Hinata and Izuna be up the ue 40+ spot too
covert spoke
yeah its kinda that
crude sable
ehhh
restive kraken
They’re hell strong when they’re used in where they’re supposed to be
Like if you compare them to Aru
covert spoke
its implied to us but
to the people its made for, they wont necessarily understand that ue40 needed
stuck valley
?
covert spoke
also feel like iori isnt the sort of unit you farm for your daily 3
restive kraken
Why’s it feeling like Hinata is higher prio than Aru if you could raise her up
stuck valley
is it finally worth farming comms at 3x
polar orbit
gotta remember baris is coming
covert spoke
it was always worth farming
gaunt ocean
whos asian here chat
grim finch
not cred comms
covert spoke
i think so tbh
worldly sun
It’s a dude for noobs after all
restive kraken
whos asian here chat
You might as well spit the direct question
echo oar
a duuuude for noooobs
covert spoke
yeah but noobs are skipping kuroko arent they
worldly sun
If you know better (gpd) then you can ignore it
restive kraken
I think not
worldly sun
Also same for izuna except literally just this raid
restive kraken
Why does this feel familiar with something I’ve said in the past
Something something unlocking a unit just to not need it
grim finch
theres only 1 thing i feel wrong about the guide
worldly sun
Event bonus
grim finch
its izumi
crude sable
i mean izuna works on goz and srkr, but will she see much use after mecha aris?
covert spoke
same with izumi
stuck valley
Izumi kit is kinda meh...
restive kraken
Either way I think if you’re gonna put Aru up there, its still worth to mention Hinata and Izuna for the UE40+ section
Rather than “meh just borrow fes dps”
Cause your guide is to give people direction to farm
worldly sun
You want to farm them to ue40 but they’re not t1
grim finch
idek why izumi is in tier 3 not 4
grim finch
literally saw noone use her even on tor boat
crude sable
but thats the point, the best advice would be borrow fes dps (mecha aris) rather than build 2 units that underperform compared to her, saving mats and time
opaque dagger
That's why she's in Tier 3, no one used her on Tor
empty verge
7 seconds between top 1 and 5, im seeing mald
polar orbit
idek why izumi is in tier 3 not 4
she was dragged out by some other people. I had her in waifu tier
restive kraken
7 seconds is a huge diff tho
grim finch
if noone use her on tor she should be in t4
polar orbit
izuna and hinata are just in very awkward spots
opaque dagger
if noone use her on tor she should be in t4
When are you gonna see people using Hinata on Tor btw
old rose
i mean the only ones ur using on tor are like neru and hifumi and maybe kayoko
cuz they're all utility
opaque dagger
Aru/Iori I actually can give you legit examples on Tor
old rose
surprise surprise, farmable dps are outclassed!
restive kraken
No one’s bothered about Iori cause of her uses in pvp as well
radiant oasis
covert spoke
iori is just quite reliable
polar orbit
since starting there's been many cases where I wanted the top 3 units there in my roster and I didnt have them, and then the middle 3 as well (boat sucks). But the rest are like... idk I never really missed them
opaque dagger
Actually, is the Chesed 1 team 4 buffers + Seia
old rose
i have never missed any of them except for a more invested hibiki for this season pvp
(and hifumi/neru when i was 3 months into the game and boat came)
opaque dagger
Wait no you still need AoE DPS uhhhh
covert spoke
its cherino
echo oar
kisaki rio seia cherino mika
old rose
indoor chesed?
worldly sun
Not shana?
restive kraken
This reminds me of some ancient convo about spending a spark for meta specialist elephs or a pretty much useless new unit
crude sable
kisaki rio seia cherino mika
and daru
echo oar
iirc cherino clears faster than shana
opaque dagger
Hm, Rio? I'm surprised it's Rio and not Nagi Seia
covert spoke
dkayoko > daru
echo oar
rio for speed clearing waves
frozen chasm
whats next raid
echo oar
so you can keep spamming cherino
polar orbit
binah
echo oar
instead of cycling back every time
frozen chasm
back to the snek?
crude sable
ye, wr then binah
polar orbit
world raid for a month, then snek
but also snek in a few days in the world raid
kek
odd geyser
This reminds me of some ancient convo about spending a spark for meta specialist...
Glad i got kokona dupe instead of unlocking csaya
idle rampart
restive kraken
Glad i got kokona dupe instead of unlocking csaya
:kokonastupid:
covert spoke
120k hp or something
odd geyser
:kokonastupid:
restive kraken
Was it about the kisaki banner I wonder
odd geyser
did we ever had story binha?
Yeah, like a side note note in early deca
polar orbit
i'll definitely take this feedback for the next iteration though. ig once 31-3 drops it'll need adjusting
main canyon
Where are ppl on help thread
stuck valley
It says something about Bina being mysterious
polar orbit
i'm content to leave it for now since i dont think it's bricking anyone per se
but definitely some things i didnt think about
stuck valley
since it's a phenomenon in abydos desert thousands years ago
crude sable
i'm content to leave it for now since i dont think it's bricking anyone per se
i think its good overall tbh
frail glen
there are no blue armor raids in wr that qreuiqre maid arisu right?
maid arisu scary
stuck valley
and it's not entirely the same as current deca which is created by steel continent as far as i'm concerned
idle rampart
deca blue raid
covert spoke
stuck valley
bina
frail glen
idle rampart
who need maris when you got baris
frail glen
who need maris when you got baris
i just want to make sure
maris p1 for srkr is not
pleasant
main canyon
Anyone free to help me for GA?
stuck valley
there's the collection tab you can check the lore of deca bosses there
Nori said something about binah having a lore
stuck valley
yea it just appear ig
frail glen
even the deca triplets claim they dk where tf did binah came from
stuck valley
idle rampart
it's just normal desert snake
fleet narwhal
remind me whats the average comm sweep ?
idle rampart
every desert must have big snake
frail glen
it's just normal desert snake
is your normal desert snake made of metal and can shoot laser canons?
idle rampart
that's a rule in fiction
frail glen
every desert must have big snake
u mean worm
stuck valley
death worm are desert thing
frozen chasm
it's just normal desert snake
stuck valley
idk about snake
polar orbit
is your normal desert snake made of metal and can shoot laser canons?
well see it became not normal when it got those powers
main canyon
Anyone free to help me for GA?
Anybody?
polar orbit
but before, it was a normal desert snake
restive kraken
Anyone free to help me for GA?
You might as well ask your questions directly
idle rampart
just tell your available units
covert spoke
i'm content to leave it for now since i dont think it's bricking anyone per se
yeah its more just like
better formatting
maybe iori separate since shes so much faster than other single node units
some way of explaining that the farms dont stop for some of them, just that they are a worthwhile unit at ue40,
but for others they do stop at ue40
(or at just unlock if insane/event bonus etc)
also the thing about 5x hards during event is...
perhaps add (non welfare farm) or (non welfare/eligma farm)
frail glen
but before, it was a normal desert snake
binah was a happy little desert snake living in the kivotos desert, with a happy wife and bunch of kids
then one day, the kaisar pmc attacked, robbed binah of his faimly
binah, suffering from the enduring pain, tear drops with bleed
main canyon
do you have rio, boshi, tyuuka, or mimori?
Only rio and mimori
frail glen
Binah took the form of metal snake to take avenge on kaisar snakes
and now binah is known as the
Kaisar slayer
polar orbit
yeah its more just like
better formatting
maybe iori separate since shes so m...
actually people were telling me to put 8-10 nodes during an event + 2x combo. I cut it back
covert spoke
it really depends on event, its really hard to give average advice
polar orbit
yea
crude sable
Only rio and mimori
okay, swap sshizuko with rio, do you have daru?
restive kraken
Just a quick question about Iori
covert spoke
and also on refreshing / spending
restive kraken
Where else do you use her outside of pvp
If the argument is for units to be used in torment
grim finch
tor greg 
polar orbit
it's a good question
frail glen
Where else do you use her outside of pvp
iori is the cheapest investment you can make to clear comms
covert spoke
boat p1, grand assaults, chesed option
stuck valley
iori versatile
covert spoke
nah its cherino now
restive kraken
iori is the cheapest investment you can make to clear comms
But by the time you manage to UE 60 her, does that even matter
Cause she’s now the top of the farm guide tiers right
Where you want her UE40+
polar orbit
it really is about options ig
frail glen
But by the time you manage to UE 60 her, does that even matter
from my experience, I farmed iori out then was I able to really clear the comm stages
restive kraken
but does comms even matter by the time you hit UE 40 with her
frail glen
yes
covert spoke
no
idle rampart
slack GA
restive kraken
You’re struggling with comms to need UE40 Iori?
covert spoke
you'll farm her to 4* or cherino to 4* and clear max sweeper comms
idle rampart
didn't even need to spend a ticket for plat
frail glen
no I am saying you need to unlock iori to use the cheap strat to clear comm
covert spoke
yes that would put her in izumi tier then
restive kraken
So you arent reading my question then
frail glen
your question wasn't asking about ue40
i assuming u meant unlock
idle rampart
Damn and still triple digits <:NatsuStare:1038092101767938078>
that's how free 3 digit in asia tbh
7 tickets sweep
idle rampart
you got better score than me yea
restive kraken
your question wasn't asking about ue40
i assuming u meant unlock
My question’s purpose is connected to the hard node farming guide sent above where I’m questioning whether units belong to a specific tier currently-stated
covert spoke
the issue is its like
iori to unlock > aru to unlock
aru to farm > > > iori to farm (ignoring pvp)
and its difficult to make a concise graphic for that
old rose
i mean fundamentally, for what purpose are newbies farming hard nodes
frail glen
i agree with nori
old rose
for tor?
covert spoke
without the graphic getting too detailed and cluttered
restive kraken
the issue is its like
iori to unlock > aru to unlock
aru to farm > > > iori t...
Or just change it to a step-by-step guide
polar orbit
I mean it's a fair point. If this guide is nudging newbies and intermediates in the right direction to farm units they will eventually use in the hardest content (assuming they keep playing)... That kinda does make Iori low prio. But I'd argue it also makes hinata in the same boat due to baris, bosh, and kuroko. And then we can say Aru only has kaiten luna urban, so what's the point of that... and now suddenly we're not farming anyone
restive kraken
Rather than trying to make tiers
Skip out the choices
Give them one direct path to follow
I always recommend making one direction guides rather than giving people choice of freedom
Cause they end up doing something stupid
covert spoke
Give them one direct path to follow
its not possible this is a gacha game
polar orbit
Give them one direct path to follow
that's what the numbers are for on the first 6. The others aren't numbered cause I didn't think it mattered as much
but maybe it does matter
frail glen
IMO asking the guide to be accurate and representative of every hypothetical scenario tailored to account roster and account age is too much
a general infographic would be the best approach
it should answer the question "wow i realy dk what i am doing and what I am planning to do, what are some nodes I should sweep for hard nodes while knowing absolutely nothing and still not wasting the precious ap"
in a sense
restive kraken
that's what the numbers are for on the first 6. The others aren't numbered cause...
Or maybe you could form a bracket of units so they can just braindead sweep everyday whenever they get access to, and give them a level of investment where they should stop at
This way you dont need to clutter it
Just a check list
And stopping point for each unit
odd geyser
All paths return to hifumi
polar orbit
the indicated stopping point is ue40 atm
frail glen
All paths return to hifumi
it did pain me for me to realize I should have farmed hifumi during the wakaboat
polar orbit
but ig you are saying to put all the units that want ue40 in the same bracket
is that it?
pure vessel
covert spoke
nah i think its fine to say iori is high prio with the caveat that its just for unlock
restive kraken
Farm xxxxxxxx > stop at y investment > once finish with list, proceed to farm them abcde to UE60 when you can
fiery kiln
mari the best wife
pure vessel
tasty nunny wife
restive kraken
Then the guide can be simplified
polar orbit
binah was a happy little desert snake living in the kivotos desert, with a happy...
🔥 ✍️
restive kraken
You can choose to either make another introduction section yourself, or just skip out on introducing student purposes at all
restive kraken
You could also make an entire separate section for what units are used for
Guide*
polar orbit
ah
restive kraken
This way people can choose to read or not
Or just follow simple instructions
Cause they mostly wanna shut brain off
And you’re not looking to act smart and forcefully educate them either
restive kraken
If you can achieve that, go ahead
frail glen
like sometimes you should make subtractions
not additions
same as word limits on papers
@polar orbit send me the guide doc I can help you edit
frail glen
ye just send me the powerpoint
restive kraken
polar orbit
no...
restive kraken
You realize I’m suggesting a subtraction on the info you present
frail glen
i am not taking credits for anything if that's what you are afraid
restive kraken
Dajin are you free rn
frail glen
You could also make an entire separate section for what units are used for
i see your point but again, i feel like that is introducing excessive (subjective) info that just dilutes attention
sharp dome
pat time 🐌
restive kraken
i see your point but again, i feel like that is introducing excessive (subjectiv...
Wait
opaque dagger
Nah, a short description of why you're farming something is important
frail glen
this is a hyperbole, at that point might as well add an abstract, bibliography etc etc
polar orbit
i'm just taking notes
restive kraken
I have a feeling you’re completely misunderstanding the message you’re replying to
frail glen
What do you think I’m suggesting
I know you are trying to suggest a simplification
but making a whole different section dedicated to explain the usage is over-complication
I am saying that she shouldn't make a different section
and just stick to the one panel guide
restive kraken
Overcomplicated for who
frail glen
Overcomplicated for who
for the audience
restive kraken
Lmao
Lemme reword it so its more direct
Guide A is just a direct instruction flow path
Do A, Do B, once A B are done, do C
Nothing is explained for the “why need a b c d e”
Thats infographic 1 and extremely simple to just follow
frail glen
look bro you don't have to explain all this I know what you are talking about
it's the basic abstract + explanation
restive kraken
Now Guide B is another simple infographic/sheet (idk whatever you want it to be), this is a separate piece of info you can read if you want/need
Explains what hard node characters are for
Completely cuts down the need for excessive clutter info on Guide A
frail glen
I am saying that, for now, just focus on the abstract, don't let explanation distract you
because rn she is having issues even printing out the first draft because all the explanations is constantly making her change how she want the doc to be like
restive kraken
Gives people a choice to read on extra info if they need
So it is not overcomplicated to the audience at all
Its literally just another picture or link next to the first infographic
frail glen
since the main goal of the guide is tailored towards newer players, i say just focus on the abstract, providing an overview of what units should be targeted
restive kraken
sharp dome
2 tor r9633 (gold : 12001)
ashen turret
JUNKO
stuck valley
junko
still sparrow
2 tor r9633 (gold : 12001)
that insane yellow score tho
fiery kiln
2 tor r9633 (gold : 12001)
a normal day of kr
fiery kiln
worse than jp cutoff score
stuck valley
asia 1 tor cutoff when
fiery kiln
fr
frail glen
Gives people a choice to read on extra info if they need
My point is, having the absence of choice (not having the extra info) is the way to go
- the first panel will be more straightforward (you will have this unit invested for the future regardless of prio) and less clustered
- it is easier on the readers' side without the pressure of having to go through a detailed guide
- it helps none to actually focus on getting out the first edition of the guide
IF i am doing a paper, I would agree with your method
but this is a guide tailored to gacha players, a fully detailed guide with every component specifically explained might be too complex and presssuring
It's like an advertisement for a product, you are not putting the user's manual on the advertisement panel
fiery kiln
asia server still chil
grim finch
wow text of wall
restive kraken
My point is, having the absence of choice (not having the extra info) is the way...
I… really cant tell if you’re actually understanding what it means to make it readable for the general audience
frail glen
your audience is too general
restive kraken
Like, genuinely no one gives a shit about the why for most part
frail glen
the guide is for new players specifically, that is the target audience
restive kraken
They’ll come in, ask what to do and do it
Thats exactly what instructions and ONLY instructions are for
radiant oasis
yeah i agree
restive kraken
And if they’re interested, they can simply read on the next page
empty verge
💀
sharp dome
pt pat pat pat time 🐌
restive kraken
Thats precisely cutting off clutter
sharp dome
yes mika again 
tender eagle
empty verge
@sharp dome i know what you are
restive kraken
Also idk why you’re questioning about the term “general audience” when we’re already on the grounds that this is intended for new players
sharp dome
Why do you not have dkayoko
even no NY kayoko
old rose
pmo when she shows up to my cafe cuz she's stuck at b10
frail glen
And if they’re interested, they can simply read *on the next page*
can we all agree on
An average reader of the guide will just need to get "I need this this this and this farmed" without knowing the detailed why
restive kraken
The MAJORITY of the audience is the general audience, and the target audience itself is the new players who will ask questions
frail glen
The MAJORITY of the audience is the general audience, and the target audience it...
yes, and the new players will not need the "why section" you mentioned for the guide
fiery kiln
was so painful without her
same
restive kraken
can we all agree on
An average reader of the guide will just need to get "I need...
Thats exactly what I said at the start
fiery kiln
avg jp plat cutoff every ga season
grim finch
holy
restive kraken
I have a different opinion
So idk whats this
frail glen
Thats exactly what I said at the start
https://discord.com/channels/89047400409...
first thing first, I am not disagreeing with your entire statement
i am focusing on the part where you mentioned "You can choose to either make another introduction section yourself, or just skip out on introducing student purposes at all"
round kayak
Uhhhhh didn’t do raid award
slaccguy wadafak
round kayak
go do tor rn
pallid inlet
Hello nezo
fiery kiln
clear ins each col and slack all tix
restive kraken
But I didnt tell them to make an explanation guide as a must
Thats their own guide
They get to choose what they want to make…?
round kayak
Hello jerome
frail glen
But I didnt tell them to make an explanation guide as a must
I didn't say that is your argument
I am explaning why that potential option you mentioned might be an bad idea
pallid inlet
restive kraken
Whether they want to go through the trouble of making another section is up to them
pallid inlet
Nezo are you ready to shower Kei with love
round kayak
I'm still kinda short here
restive kraken
My suggestion is just focused on making instructions simple and ONLY instructions for farming guides
frail glen
I KNOW
ashen turret
pallid inlet
I'm still kinda short here
What’s your rank rn on ga
restive kraken
So wtf is different opinion
round kayak
haven't checked
restive kraken
All this for what
round kayak
somewhere 3 digits lol
frail glen
dude it's not black and white
i can agree with your conclusion WITHOUT agreeing with some of your suggestion
lethal sparrow
Kei .....
frail glen
eternal and folie are literally agreeing, and somehow are still arguing
this pains me
is me saying I have a different opinion too strong or something
lethal sparrow
Probably my biggest anticipation since Seia
restive kraken
I just can’t help but think you could’ve simply said “I think its better to not do x”
restive kraken
I really want to buy nitro just to use an emoji
sharp dome
silver 🐌
fiery kiln
just mika it yellow
pallid inlet
Just uneru it
lethal sparrow
How important are Kei's invests btw ? is UE30/UE40 basic needs stuff or can she be left at 4* for a bit
I never really got an answer anywhere else
stuck valley
4* until dies
sharp dome
???
stuck valley
M11m
fiery kiln
lethal sparrow
oh it's the usual ig
at least she won't ever die on the next peroro GA lmfao
thanks green armor
Can throw NYKayoko in the bin for good there
stuck valley
watch this crab deals green damage
empty verge
How important are Kei's invests btw ? is UE30/UE40 basic needs stuff or can she ...
4* works for goz luna
pallid inlet
4* Kei survives f124 btw
sharp dome
4* Kei survives f124 btw
even fury of set?
lethal sparrow
4* works for goz luna
oh, good bit of info since I'm aiming at this lun
pallid inlet
even fury of set?
I forgot to say but it’s blue set
stuck valley
I thought we ALL ue40 kei debut…
lethal sparrow
alright
round kayak
even fury of set?
Both chokma and set
fleet narwhal
I thought we ALL ue40 kei debut…
ue30 kei and thats it
ashen turret
just get 4 dupes on your first 10 pull???? bruh??
lethal sparrow
I have to make choices at every turn, non spender duties
pallid inlet
Set is more significant of a comparison
restive kraken
I actually dont know how much damage kei contributes to
ashen turret
pallid inlet
I actually dont know how much damage kei contributes to
It’s damage
restive kraken
But Kei’s nuke only scales base atk
round kayak
I thought we ALL ue40 kei debut…
I'll make her UE 40
restive kraken
So if you’re short on eligma you should worry about B aris first
lethal sparrow
I'm thinking BAris invests from my account's pov are kinda useless since just a maxed out borrow will do the trick for anything that isn't a Lun raid or extremely high floor FRR, so I might leave her at lv1 for a bit
frail glen
think next reset at least
so less than a month
stuck valley
I'm thinking BAris invests from my account's pov are kinda useless since just a ...
What if you need 2 team
round kayak
Waiting for a 50 eligma discount for a month kinda kills my vibe
sharp dome
kr active : 57595
round kayak
shoulda added it after the banner smh
lethal sparrow
then she might be needed, but again it depends on what teams needs are there
fiery kiln
the comeback login bonus will be add in glb i think
lethal sparrow
I kinda did the same decision making crap when delaying raising DHina/UNeru/SMika for a little while, that actually kinda saved me
preferred to UE40 hyperbuffers instead
sharp dome
the comeback login bonus will be add in glb i think
so tasty 😛
pallid inlet
I delayed building uneru to yellow chokmah
fiery kiln
the comeback login bonus will be add in glb i think
its just test for alt acc 
lethal sparrow
I badly need SNagisa invests now, anyway
frail glen
bc that's 1200 pyros
lethal sparrow
4* is misery
stuck valley
bc that's 1200 pyros
No way that’s worth the hiatus
restive kraken
I'm thinking BAris invests from my account's pov are kinda useless since just a ...
Sure, just remember Kei investments are pretty much pointless above UE30 unless you need her to survive specific things
stuck valley
You can get these in probably less than a week with event
frail glen
kr active : 57595
how do you find the last placement???
lethal sparrow
Gonna keep that in mind
frail glen
i want to check players for NA
restive kraken
Her UE40 is HP, and her nuke doesnt take UE50-60 bonuses for mood or effectiveness
I just dont know how much damage she personally contributes to team
stuck valley
scroll
pallid inlet
I just dont know how much damage she personally contributes to team
It’s just chip damage
lethal sparrow
Neither do I actually
sharp dome
how do you find the last placement???
scrool down until ends so slat
lethal sparrow
thought that would be a big deal but apparently not
frail glen
scrool down until ends ~~so slat~~
bruh
stuck valley
I thought so too
frail glen
round kayak
what is it careguy
pallid inlet
I barely fell since I last checked my rank this morning
lethal sparrow
my initial understanding was also that
"maybe it's like accumulation cause her base atk is super high thanks to having a RG", nah
sharp dome
stuck valley
lament gyro
what is it careguy
I’m overslaccing
ashen turret
round kayak
I slacc too
frail glen
https://discord.com/channels/890474004094263357/917976096463532052 updated
does the 3x campaign end at june 22nd
or we getting more
ashen turret
does the 3x campaign end at june 22nd
idk
frail glen
ashen turret
thats just may-june
lethal sparrow
that's a significant normals/hards uptime
covert spoke
I just dont know how much damage she personally contributes to team
similar to shoshi on red
round kayak
Hmm how long will it take for geburah to be accessible on wr
covert spoke
but its more more spiky
pallid inlet
Hmm how long will it take for geburah to be accessible on wr
A few days
You need to kill kether chesed hod
candid gust
covert spoke
theres a peroro strat where kei knocks the 6th perorominion allowing ibuki to basic boss
lethal sparrow
prepare for Yesod daily
round kayak
oh so that's how it works
marsh bolt
I remember seeing Kei NS did like 800k or smth on Goz
round kayak
time to max that basic then
pallid inlet
I’ll get Kei basic up when I’m no longer in debt
round kayak
I'm just waiting for practice mock
lethal sparrow
I'm confused as to why Biners is the only one with slightly lower HP than regular tor
round kayak
lunatic peroro taking a long ass while to come back
pallid inlet
I'm confused as to why Biners is the only one with slightly lower HP than regula...
They nerfed torment
lethal sparrow
Yeah but what's the reason
pallid inlet
Lunatic
lethal sparrow
Bruhv
pallid inlet
So they wanted to change the mechanics on all difficulties
lethal sparrow
Lunatic is free anyway 😭
round kayak
They undertuned binah and now it's hogwash
frozen chasm
They undertuned binah and now it's hogwash
remember hod
marsh bolt
They underestimated balder ability to create something insane like AA groggy
round kayak
remember hod
`nope I wasn't there that time
pallid inlet
They changed hod or something
Also nezo
After I’m done with millennium fest I’m gonna farm overpass bounties
round kayak
Is that the one with disks
marsh bolt
They changed hod or something
Lunatic Hod no longer has massive crit res
round kayak
no that's a different one
sharp dome
without Baris
pallid inlet
round kayak
pallid inlet
I’m doing overpass so I can build niko when she’s home
marsh bolt
Lunatic Hod no longer has massive crit res
Torment: 500 crit res
Lunatic: 100 crit res after filling a CC gauge
pallid inlet
Facts
fiery kiln
jp comeback limited package
pallid inlet
I’m too 100
sharp dome
just r100 and slack
round kayak
Upscore harder
pallid inlet
Honestly
fiery kiln
me when b100 
and
pallid inlet
I attack people in my bracket for the sake of attacking
I’m not climbing to r10 or above anytime
fiery kiln
my jp f2p acc still stucked in b70 rn
round kayak
I attack people in my bracket for the sake of attacking
I haven't changed my def since the start and I still win some defs
pallid inlet
Same
pallid inlet
I don’t think I’ve changed my defense team
It’s still the same units
Also gotta say
worldly sun
I haven't changed my def since the start and I still win some defs
What you using? Default def?
pallid inlet
Boshi is the goat
worldly sun
Or boshi
round kayak
uhh tsubaki, kanoe, shanako, eimi, mreisa, iwak
worldly sun
No hibik?
pallid inlet
I’m even able to counter some shanako def teams
sharp dome
????????
old rose
uhh tsubaki, kanoe, shanako, eimi, mreisa, iwak
doesnt lose to yuuka cheese?
worldly sun
You can try swapping kanoe and eimi, keeps her out of shana def down so she lives a bit longer
pallid inlet
Loses to yuuka cheese
echo oar
I've never built my hibiki at all
how many stars
pallid inlet
I lost to a yuuka cheese not too long ago
echo oar
goooooood good good