💬gameplay-discussion

[frail glen]

chat

what is the proper way to use PJ noa?

[pallid inlet]

buff with an ex dmg buffer

[frail glen]

I use her like wakamo rn

[torn thorn]

bruh

[frail glen]

straight damage buff only effects when the ex actiates right?

[orchid axle]

Insert fav student

[lament gyro]

Insert chare

[orchid axle]

Insert subvitals

[frail glen]

WAIT HOLD UP

I think i read her kit wrong

....

don't laugh

I thought her EX was accumulation

[lament gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[frail glen]

so I only ex buff when her ex skill about to wrong out

[lament gyro]

That’s.

[ornate saffron]

my s hanako stronger than their s hanako

[frail glen]

ye.

[lament gyro]

Congratulations you missed out on like 99% of the dps

[frail glen]

my fault

[orchid axle]

Eternally feeling it

[lament gyro]

[frail glen]

i mean it still cleared

[orchid axle]

Why not just solo uneru p2 tor

[ornate saffron]

i thought it read as eternal feet i was like based but nvm

[lament gyro]

Just do tor brah

[frail glen]

I want to cook something myself

[frozen birch]

use her EX then buff her cause the buffs apply dynamically to her weakness detect

and you can also carry over buffs to the next EX

[frail glen]

I see people say that

then I realize

they meant to use it like any other dps

ie Uneru then kisaki

not in the way like wakamo

[orchid axle]

All that cooking from mock just to use solo uneru

[lament gyro]

Just do wanpan

[orchid axle]

It was tor prep

[pallid inlet]

with ex dmg buffer, pnoa debuff does a lot more dmg per tick

[orchid axle]

https://youtu.be/dYJrn0Ybmz8
If you're looking for my one pan, here

[lament gyro]

ssg ins balder

[orchid axle]

I don't understand what's so bald in this

[pallid inlet]

imagine doing wakaboat 1 pan ins

[lament gyro]

btw this clear I wasn’t even doing stuff optimally lmao

[orchid axle]

It's just repeated uneru spam

[frozen birch]

idk how a UNeru team can do 60 mil lol, thats some crit balding

[frosty harbor]

idk 2pan is easier if you have the teams for it

i wouldnt want to bring hifumi p2

[ripe mason]

~53m mika team is pretty easy

[frozen birch]

well i cant run the Mika team sadly

[pallid inlet]

thats insane down

[frosty harbor]

why not jist use mika eimi?

[frozen birch]

well do i want to not have a UNeru team or not have a Mika team, idk

[sharp dome]

Cool

[orchid axle]

Lunatic

[frozen birch]

i cant support both to the same extent

[pallid inlet]

no

[frosty harbor]

for torment right?

shouldnt mika team easily 1 pan p1? you dont need eimi p2

[marble gust]

wtf is the 60mil uneru team

[frozen birch]

i was told she hits that much during p1

[frozen birch]

im lunatic cooking myself

[frosty harbor]

ah ha.

[marble gust]

holy self cook lun

https://tenor.com/view/cac-gif-4842468385197483905

[frozen birch]

yeah idk how the UNeru team even comes close when

need to use Rio on Hifumi at key moments to ensure dont get shot

[marble gust]

oh i thought u meant p2

[frozen birch]

especially since the CC gauge needs more infliction

yeah im not even on p2 yet cause i have a good plan for p2

problem is p1 walling me just cause

I lack PTJuri OR Tsukuyo

[frosty harbor]

oh yeah juri exists

[frozen birch]

UNeru cant do enough on her own so I need to throw a Mika team beforehand

which can only do 15 mil at most cause it dies after the run

since no CC left

[ripe mason]

I didn't even need them

[frozen birch]

Well idk, my UNeru cant do even 40 mil

i need 40-45 mil

[frozen birch]

This Mika team opener only does 15 mil at best

[frosty harbor]

i dont even remember when i raised her

[frozen birch]

And then the main teams

so far UNeru only averages 22 mil or so

which isnt clean-up able

i cannot double her damage since she cant crit ofc

and then after these three teams im out of options for p1

so that's it lol

[ripe mason]

what's stopping you from using the P1 Mika super team?

[frozen birch]

then no UNeru team basically

so do i want a more dedicated Mika team or

[frosty harbor]

you probably want super mika team sir

[frozen birch]

well no UNeru then

[frosty harbor]

yeah, do 2 team uneru p2 instead

[frozen birch]

this is lunatic

not tor

[frosty harbor]

do you not have kazusa or other yellow dps?

[frozen birch]

not for teams that work

on p1

lacking the other light armor tanks

[marble gust]

no mald only comfy

[lilac solar]

I should NOT be struggling this hard with wakaboat ins wtf

[frozen birch]

lmao what is comfy about that

there's nothing healing Mika and Mika takes full damage

since her damage reduction is ignored and cant evade

[frosty harbor]

no kayoko

[ripe mason]

it's comfy because it's consistent

[old rose]

you tank wakamo with perorosama 1 and perorosama 2

[frozen birch]

i mean yeah, just dies in the first bit but gets the damage off lol

[old rose]

nah that team lives the whole 4 mins lol

[frozen birch]

anyways

[round kayak]

there's a huge difference on what is maldy and not

[steep vortex]

slacc done

[frosty harbor]

aru heals kisaki shields

[frozen birch]

Aru heals for 5% of Mika HP sure

[ripe mason]

pelolo absorbs most of the damage anyways

[frozen birch]

anyways, im cooked since p1 is walling me

[marble gust]

just pray wakamo stabs less if ur mika isnt b50

[broken zodiac]

does anyone know what causes the s.nagi bug

[frozen birch]

ah yeah, bond diff also would make a diff

[marble gust]

is there another bug

[quiet raft]

[broken zodiac]

where you dont get the overflow buff

[quiet raft]

Man

[pallid inlet]

what snagi bug

[marble gust]

wtf

[frozen birch]

well that definitely means i cant do this comp with B30 Mika

[quiet raft]

Time to play

[round kayak]

you need a full team

[old rose]

isn't it just ur team is dying

[pallid inlet]

a student has retreated?

[round kayak]

no one ded

[steep vortex]

if someone on the team dies you dont get the buff

[broken zodiac]

ohhhh

is that intended

[pallid inlet]

[marble gust]

ofc lol

[frosty harbor]

its a feature

[broken zodiac]

rip

[pallid inlet]

it says so on the ex skill

[frozen birch]

so you cant solo cheese with it

[quiet raft]

or if you don't bring a full team in the first place

[pallid inlet]

oh also

[marble gust]

else itll be super broken

[steep vortex]

true

[frosty harbor]

otherwise 1 dps team on challenge would be braindead easy

[pallid inlet]

@round kayak i did a torment mock run and got it first try

[broken zodiac]

my 3 star c.hare

[idle rampart]

congrats

[broken zodiac]

not good at not retreat

[round kayak]

good work

[frozen birch]

anyways im

cooked since i cant clear p1

[idle rampart]

luna moment

[frozen birch]

UNeru cant do the 40 mil minimum

for cleanup with SWakamo

that i need

[pallid inlet]

hifumi peroro hp being low isnt that big of a deal apparently

[quiet raft]

luna 2pan?

[idle rampart]

you can't do the mika strat?

[frozen birch]

no since no B50 Mika so she's just gonna die

[slate sky]

Did this original run. If no juri use aoba or mine and it should clear

[idle rampart]

i see

[slate sky]

For p1

[quiet raft]

whel mari

[round kayak]

as long it doesnt start bouncing to uneru or seia you'll be fine

[frozen birch]

yeah if i could run that team 1 i'd prolly manage tbh

but i cant

[slate sky]

?

[frozen birch]

i dont have the tanks

[idle rampart]

tsukuyo huh

[pallid inlet]

for the most part i could get the plush up right after it is destroyed

[quiet raft]

doesn't pt juri never or rarely use EX even here?

[slate sky]

No tsukuyo?

[frozen birch]

nope

[slate sky]

Ohh

Juri?

[frozen birch]

i could've selectored her but i got OShig instead

[quiet raft]

I saw a clear yesterday and never I saw PT.Juri ex

[slate sky]

Yikes

[frozen birch]

so i guess im cooked. i did manage 15 mil with a Mika throw team tho

[quiet raft]

well, C.Kotama already fills it up full on all diffs so maybe that's why

[frozen birch]

yeah the CC requirement goes up with each gauge right?

[pallid inlet]

yes

[frozen birch]

anyways i guess im cooked, sadge

i did all that prep and wont get it lol

just cause missing ONE of two students

Alright, no lunatic for me

[slate sky]

Try this

[frozen birch]

Guess Binah will be the first

[slate sky]

The t1 and t2

[frozen birch]

i cant run that first team either

[lilac solar]

my poor ckot only has lv3 ex

[slate sky]

T3 is cleanup

[lilac solar]

maybe I should fix that

[slate sky]

No seia?

[frozen birch]

no Mika UE60 or B50

[slate sky]

Not needed

[frozen birch]

needs it for comfy since otherwise Mika dies from stab variance

[empty verge]

mommy

[frozen birch]

more on average anyways

[marble gust]

just lb25 healing kisaki seia daru

[slate sky]

Neru does more than enough after

Schise if no ckot

[wide basin]

[slate sky]

Swaka can do 15m+

[frozen birch]

no UE40 CKot, see, if im lacking options im just cooked really

[idle rampart]

bmm

[marble gust]

i have more than enough dps to throw on p1

with cc

[slate sky]

Schise

[frozen birch]

doesnt CC enough sadly

[round kayak]

wth are you doing luna boat arch?

[slate sky]

She has

[round kayak]

[frozen birch]

also i already ran these teams and for one thing

[marble gust]

comfy

[slate sky]

Basic + ex on 2nd and 3rd cc bar

[frozen birch]

Mika team does 15 mil
UNeru manages 22 mil roughly

[slate sky]

That's too low

[frozen birch]

well ofc, she cant crit

[steep vortex]

[lilac solar]

welp time to whel

[frozen birch]

not much i can do when UNeru just cant crit really

[idle rampart]

mika 15m is already too low

[steep vortex]

oh nice

[empty verge]

photoshop... AI generated..

[slate sky]

Itt averages out with all the hits

[frozen birch]

Well it doesnt have CC after the run so Mika just ends up dying

[idle rampart]

really need optimized rot

[frozen birch]

cause Haruka was in the dang back

[slate sky]

Gotta delay the 1st and 2nd cc bar to avoid dying right after run

[frozen birch]

also if SChise could actually fire off her CC quick enough

[slate sky]

I use it at there

3rd one is after the 1st atg post run

[frozen birch]

anyways Mika's only managing 15 mil at best most likely still

[frail glen]

the turret is broken

[dusky terrace]

anyone got video for the first team?

[idle rampart]

not using mika to its full damage kinda hurt p1

[novel timber]

6m different from hw

[frozen birch]

well yeah, not much i can do about that lacking the options

[idle rampart]

yea

[slate sky]

That's a good mika run there

[quiet raft]

roar

[slate sky]

You can reach it with schise too

44m and below

[patent vault]

Thats a 🦖 team

[idle rampart]

while i'm confident I can just throw Mika + Uneru in p1, i'll lack the damage for not using uneru in p2

[frozen birch]

yeah rn if i delay the second one this much, Mika dies from bounce

[slate sky]

Imari didn't heal her before?

[frozen birch]

i mean....im using the MReisa team you put here

[dusky terrace]

is it tho? apart from ue30 nyfuuka this looks pretty f2p

[lethal sparrow]

Fuck finally, my 1st F99 red FoS

[slate sky]

Ah

[lethal sparrow]

with 35s on the clock

turns out MSuzumi/MReisa are really good for this huh

[frozen birch]

yeah i cant delay the CC that much or Mika just dies

[patent vault]

Maybe over the 4 yrs the games been out, probably

[slate sky]

Gonna try that team

With schise

[dusky terrace]

i have played the game for just two years and already got all of them at that invest level except nyfuuka

[frozen birch]

the cycle is not good

ill say that much

[patent vault]

Im still >1year so

[slate sky]

I see what you mean

[lilac solar]

I should've maxed my imari when I had the chance, now I'm in trinity debt again

[frozen birch]

CKot gets to actively choose CC at any point too since she inflicts so much

SChise falls behind hard

[sleek flicker]

The difference between U.Neru and Mika are just too high

[frozen birch]

so

[pallid inlet]

indeed

[frozen birch]

im cooked

[empty verge]

hifumin hw doesnt work, what changes are needed?

[frozen birch]

Binah Lunatic it has to be simply cause i didnt selector or spook normal Tsukuyo lol

[old rose]

why doesn't it work

[worldly sun]

Not use a poverty hifumi

[round kayak]

did you check if it needs max ex and nekclace

[empty verge]

mika dies

[frozen birch]

SChise doesnt CC enough

and Mika dies yeah

[marble gust]

☹️

[frozen birch]

cause Mika isnt tanky ofc

[pallid inlet]

nezo im gonna use a ticket now

[old rose]

....why

[pallid inlet]

wish me luck

[round kayak]

cause there's a couple of hws that has those invesments

[old rose]

at what point do you diverge from the hw

[frozen birch]

Mika's damage reduction is ignored after all

[marble gust]

btw seia ue40 gives a shit ton

[lament gyro]

[worldly sun]

Gl on your lun

[empty verge]

i think its because wakamo doesnt get get groggy

[idle rampart]

have fun

[empty verge]

so maybe i need CC increase

but thats either ex or collar

[old rose]

probably needs ex5 hifumi then

[lament gyro]

nezo can i have comfy f99 hw no msuzu thanks

[empty verge]

appreciate the tautology, but that was the question

[lament gyro]

[frozen birch]

if i had Tsukuyo built this would be possible

but since i do not, cant

shame, SChise does work i just dont have a tank that can support the comp

[dusky terrace]

ok found the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1DkoAsce54

[worldly sun]

Hifumi 5ex, t8 necklace. Although not crucial you’ll fine hw difficult to follow without max sub

And upgrade her pin and shoes to increase summon hp

[frozen birch]

also i need to use Rio on Hifumi at certain points which doesnt help

[robust egret]

So this new student event huh, what student is good for gambling?

[round kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oHtW-01kek

[robust egret]

[round kayak]

[lament gyro]

take nuts out of equation

[sleek flicker]

S.Hoshino

[round kayak]

any others I should remove

[robust egret]

Right.. wants gambling but forget the pyrox was just 138

[lament gyro]

That’s like it

[robust egret]

[lament gyro]

Oh

[robust egret]

Whyyy

[round kayak]

oh what

[lament gyro]

Also satsuko

[round kayak]

WTF\

[sharp dome]

Just 💳

[round kayak]

where's your satsuko

[robust egret]

Is she good??

[frozen birch]

@tender eagle well i gave it an honest try but nope, cant do it, i lack P1 ability

[round kayak]

fine no satsuko

[robust egret]

What's that mean?

[round kayak]

[sleek flicker]

Deffinetly

[lament gyro]

Bricked

[round kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijfQBuInWkk

[sleek flicker]

Spending actual money into the game

[round kayak]

[lament gyro]

Ok thanks f2p

[robust egret]

😭

[lament gyro]

Who’s orb popper

[tender eagle]

I still think you could manage with your account but you gotta really want it

[lament gyro]

[old rose]

nagisa iwak

[tender eagle]

But good try 🤝

[robust egret]

Im f2p noooo

[round kayak]

dunno havent watched it

[frozen birch]

maybe if i UE40'd CKotama lol, but i cant afford that

[slate sky]

Its better with ny fuuka and imari instead of ako and ui

[round kayak]

[sharp dome]

[lament gyro]

Ok thanks bezo

[slate sky]

T3 doesn't need imari

[lament gyro]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[robust egret]

So grinding to get Hoshino summer huh

[slate sky]

Just use tmari or smth

[robust egret]

[frozen birch]

not built like yours is so i'd use Koharu

[slate sky]

She full heals everyone each ex

[old rose]

are the "just for hit count" people actually important

[pallid inlet]

yes

[old rose]

🥀

ur telling me my lvl 26 utaha isn't enough

[round kayak]

are we forgetting the main mechanic here

[frozen birch]

okay so if i do NYFuuka and IMari instead...hang on

[round kayak]

what no

[robust egret]

Already half bar, dude what difficulty you playing at??

[worldly sun]

Utaha does pretty good dmg

[robust egret]

[frozen birch]

@slate sky when do i feed NYFuuka into SChise tho

[pallid inlet]

the hitcount dps

[robust egret]

💀 🙏

[slate sky]

Only into mika

[old rose]

wdym hitcount dps

i've only heard of hitcount

[robust egret]

Wtf torments

[round kayak]

bruh no wonder you are doing no heals comp

ofc everyone's dmg will be important

[old rose]

is there a comfy with heals comp

[round kayak]

[old rose]

that doesn't involve kok

[round kayak]

lemme see

[worldly sun]

You could probably try koharu

Otherwise kisaki kok can swap for sseia dmich

[robust egret]

Or Mari idol is good too

[old rose]

koharu bad armor

so is imari

don't have dmich

[worldly sun]

No chare?

[old rose]

i mean koharu/imari probably work, since they just heal

[worldly sun]

Normally Suzumi is chare here

[old rose]

ye

[round kayak]

I used imari before

[frozen birch]

@slate sky alright first attempt, only problem is post run, SChise cant CC

[round kayak]

works

[old rose]

...ion wanna build imari

[round kayak]

[old rose]

tbh i don't think i can

no trinity mats

[worldly sun]

why pull a unit you’re not gonna build, just skip smh

[round kayak]

mreisa?

[old rose]

yea i can do mreisa

[round kayak]

[worldly sun]

Lose cost regen

Prep a throw team

You probably won’t finish in time

[old rose]

pnoa neru maki sseia - mreisa utaha

?

[slate sky]

Wakamo targets haruka

Haruka ex up to avoid the blast hitting everyone

[round kayak]

you'll have to ask @pallid inlet how that works, dont see any hws

[frozen birch]

yeah she doesnt, lags behind

[pallid inlet]

hi

im currently doing tix

[round kayak]

tf arent you in tix

[frozen birch]

cause she needs to stop and proc her basic lol

[round kayak]

[pallid inlet]

still doing

also im gonna be busy later

[old rose]

are u doing mreisa p2?

[round kayak]

where are you now

[pallid inlet]

yes

p2

[old rose]

do u have a reference or are you balling

[round kayak]

does it actually work

[pallid inlet]

Balling

I’ll tell you how I do it later

[round kayak]

well there you have it

[old rose]

not if i beat it first

[round kayak]

cooks faster

[old rose]

nah but i have no idea how to use pnoa lmao

[feral jetty]

i did it

[old rose]

like i'm supposed to use neru before pnoa to stack hitcount, and then pnoa, and then neru again before all the hitcount runs out?

[frozen birch]

@slate sky yeah Haruka too slow lol

[old rose]

it feels like using pnoa 1 second later or earlier actually changes my damage by a lot

[round kayak]

no you use it after pnoa's ex to apply the debuff

[old rose]

but i don't intuitively understand when I should be using her

i mean i've tried
pnoa -> buff pnoa -> neru -> repeat

but it doesn't perform well

[round kayak]

its buff -> pnoa -> neru -> repeat

[old rose]

i mean post buff can't be that bad

[frozen birch]

with PNoa ive found it better to

[slate sky]

Aoba?

[frozen birch]

use PNoa THEN buff

[old rose]

also idk when/where i'm supposed to be dropping my lvl 26 utaha

[round kayak]

does kisaki apply the buff before the pillow hits?

[round kayak]

you dont

[frozen birch]

it applies dynamically

during the duration

[old rose]

[frozen birch]

thats the big thing

[round kayak]

thats why you need her BG 2

[frozen birch]

if you buff while the thing is active

it still applies

[worldly sun]

If you’re using her every cycle might as well use before to buff pillow

[round kayak]

cause her basic spawns the drones

[frozen birch]

imma try

[worldly sun]

The dmg it does is decent esp with Lights out

[frozen birch]

but thats why i

buff after first pillow then the buff carries over to the next but UE40 supports so

[worldly sun]

They’re using sseia tho so should be fast enough

Just like pnoa sseia neru mreisa loop

[round kayak]

oh right new comp

[frozen birch]

ah, i use PNoa SSeia CHare

[round kayak]

yeah sseia applies the buff fast enough before the pillow hits

[worldly sun]

0.2s cast

Compare to kisaki 1.67s

[round kayak]

acounting for actual travel time for the pillow lol

[worldly sun]

Sseia is 0.2 I mean

DPS don’t show application delay only full animation time

[round kayak]

at least you can see it flying

[lament gyro]

Wtf

[round kayak]

what

[shell tree]

sounds like frequent flier businessman talk

[lament gyro]

I hung up my apron just for rick to pick it right up

[lilac solar]

27.1m 🥀

now I have to do it for real

[round kayak]

bro is still in tix rn

[frozen birch]

@slate sky Aoba works i just need to EX with her sooner

move her up

[lament gyro]

Explosive kitchening

[round kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/fireman-on-fire-gif-6314503928231119861

[slate sky]

After this team you just have to get under 12m with neru to be safe for swakamo cleanup

[frozen birch]

my SWakamo team is capable of 11 mil with no 30% HP range i tested that earlier

so should be fine

[frozen birch]

so far rotation has just been kinda wack with IMari and MReisa trading lol

[lament gyro]

Also have to write tl for f99…

😭

I can’t read japanese…

[round kayak]

just wing it

easy enough

[lament gyro]

Fah

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-skeleton-fall-apart-skeleton-burst-pop-skeleton-exploding-gif-25434496

[round kayak]

lobotomized by set

[lament gyro]

I know set ez

But me big lazy

Like hare

[round kayak]

hi big lazy

[marble gust]

wtf jerome doing lun?

[lament gyro]

Jerome self cook tor

[marble gust]

oh

[orchid axle]

Wher 1 pan

[round kayak]

since im done with my standard tor guess ill check out mreisa strats

[torn thorn]

Tf

[lilac solar]

me do ins

[torn thorn]

just

Do it without tl

Unless ur doing like super high floor

not like you need super precise rot anw

[lament gyro]

Since you’re so free nezo can you find me tl with bkaz and 3* kok thanks

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480747408261386390/moltensmh.gif

[round kayak]

wtf is that

[torn thorn]

Why she 3*

[round kayak]

[slate sky]

Reisa not used every rotation. Only when needed to heal both or to be first target

[lament gyro]

[round kayak]

I think thats beyond my capabilities

[old rose]

hmm

[slate sky]

Imari heal on mika during atg can make her survive

[lament gyro]

Ok it was worth a shot anyway

[round kayak]

not so bad without cost regen

[old rose]

this run was playing it safe using mreisa on the top turret sometimes

if i use mreisa only on the bottom turret then i don't reliably kill missiles

[orchid axle]

Ins 1 pan

[old rose]

also this happens sometimes

[frozen birch]

mm, shame no vid but im trying

[old rose]

eh i'll skip a day

too much irl stuff to do to figure it out rn

[round kayak]

[torn thorn]

Just healerless

[round kayak]

you are way better off than me before

[torn thorn]

[old rose]

show me comfy healerless

[torn thorn]

I mean

[round kayak]

is it even possible with 3* neru and utaha and no chare

[torn thorn]

The comp I’m running is pretty comfy

[round kayak]

[torn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-hare-wave-blue-archive-hare-camp-wave-blue-archive-chare-wave-hare-wave-chare-wave-gif-16256333383232757172

Why no chare

[worldly sun]

Needs chare but 3* neru can do it

[round kayak]

ask subvitals

[frozen birch]

ffs AOBA DONT USE YOUR BASIC RIGHT AFTER EX

i just repo'd you up and now you're stuck in place for 7 seconds

[worldly sun]

You have to use Utaha to block some hits tho

[lament gyro]

Just sweep ins…

[frozen birch]

idiot Aoba, gosh

[old rose]

maki lvl 85 ue40 1M71 191
neru lvl 87 3* 1111 171
utaha lvl 26 4* 1111 1112

can do healerless ?

[round kayak]

wait isnt she 3* on the last screenshot

[old rose]

yea i made her 4*

i had enough !

[round kayak]

[old rose]

big upgrade !!

[marble gust]

https://tenor.com/view/cac-gif-4842468385197483905

[frail glen]

bro....

[stable tulip]

[frail glen]

wakaboat luna sure is something huh

[stable tulip]

yeah, utaha really can work at such low level

[marble gust]

it is

[novel timber]

ughhh p1 still so hard to me

[frail glen]

I give up

[frozen birch]

@slate sky okay nvm Aoba just refuses to move i need to cancel her basic more

[old rose]

u were doing luna?

[frail glen]

neru is not living

[frail glen]

I at least wanna try how p1 felt

was not fun

i slacc tor

[old rose]

nah she lives with a healer

comfy clears only

[marble gust]

dmich puller?

[old rose]

[marble gust]

tf u using then

kisaki satsuko?

[frail glen]

wait why d michiru

[old rose]

[frail glen]

I just run kokona

kisaki and Utaha

comfy

and clean up with my uneru if some left over

[marble gust]

wow no kisaki p1

https://tenor.com/view/cac-gif-4842468385197483905

[frail glen]

himari and nyfuuka

[marble gust]

tor is whatever

[frail glen]

are you gonna clear luna?

or are you also testing water

[marble gust]

25-75

if my mika team succeeds im going for it

[frail glen]

is she succeeding?

[marble gust]

still trying

havent ue40 seia

[slate sky]

Only using her ex that 1 time?

[frail glen]

[old rose]

how much can this team do to p2

[stable tulip]

I can't clear p1 tor, it always stops at ~4m left over...

[old rose]

i can use msuzumi instead of shosh, idk who's actually better

[frail glen]

luna or tor

[round kayak]

wait damm you still have a full team there

[frail glen]

[old rose]

[round kayak]

thats more than enough for 9m lol

[old rose]

more batsu usage ?

[frail glen]

what's ur comp?

[round kayak]

bnuts not really doing anything here ngl

[frail glen]

IIRC
bnuts heal doesn't reach the turrets

might be wrong

[round kayak]

do you have kuroko?

[old rose]

i mean i can use koharu instead

[frozen chasm]

it does but only 1 side

[round kayak]

just for hitcount

[frozen chasm]

depends on where you put her

[old rose]

why are u suggesting me healerless

[frozen birch]

i may have to use it earlier just to ensure she starts running quicker

[old rose]

[round kayak]

its only 9m left with a full kisaki + rio comp

[stable tulip]

this comp gets me to 4.4 with lots of time left over, but uh...Mika dies...the other team comp takes the whole timer with the same hp amount

[frail glen]

if mika dies

that's prob hifumi issue

[old rose]

also my nonomi is lvl 80 4* 3222 6351

[slate sky]

That shouldn't be needed

[frail glen]

hifumi needs to able to tank Wakamo shots

[frozen birch]

otherwise Aoba gets stuck in place using her basic for 3-4 seconds

[slate sky]

mika ex delays her run

[steep vortex]

this is a homeless hifumi moment or no bg2 eimi moment

[old rose]

no seia tho

[slate sky]

Same with imari

And something has to go very wrong for schise to pass aoba

[old rose]

actually does daru live p2?

[slate sky]

[old rose]

i think i tried her once and she insta died

[frozen birch]

nah its mika passing Aoba

[round kayak]

she gets hit on first AA iirc

[stable tulip]

actually the problem is timing? like a full wakamo attack kills peroro sure, but there's like 2 seconds between death and redeployment

[slate sky]

Use her ex right before wakamo runs

[round kayak]

well just use koharu then

should be fine

[old rose]

but koharu also bad armor...

[round kayak]

[old rose]

uncomfy...

[round kayak]

sire its only 9m.....

[frail glen]

this hifumi barely enough for the job

[round kayak]

are you doing a full 32m run

[stable tulip]

barely?

[frail glen]

ye barely

[stable tulip]

[frail glen]

any less health during p2

[round kayak]

there's literally a kisaki on that comp

[frail glen]

the peroro dies too early

[round kayak]

[old rose]

this hifumi more than enough for me

[frail glen]

and the richochet will hit mika

[old rose]

don't mind the t10 boot she doesn't need

it was an invest from a long time ago

[frail glen]

i mean depending ont he comp

[round kayak]

wtf maxed shoes

[frail glen]

I did a bit more on Hifumi so I don't have to gear too much gears to special for stats transfer

[frozen birch]

i had a decent attempt going until Aoba can proc her basic WHILE running

[frail glen]

because I am not using himari and nyfuuka for the foreseeable future

[frozen birch]

stupid tank

[old rose]

necessary for the blue tor kaiten p1

with iwak instead of kisaki

back when i was still coping

i didn't clear

[stable tulip]

um, so...max ex?

[old rose]

yea start there

actually how is dhina's aa for p2 boat

[round kayak]

pretty good

[frail glen]

hear me out

just hear me out

Subaru p2

[round kayak]

ah actually just use her lol

[feral jetty]

ok this is so doable actually

[frozen birch]

@slate sky yeah Aoba just dumb cause her basic keeps proccing and locking her in place for dang well 8 seconds

[old rose]

anw i'll try that tmrw too much work to do

[feral elbow]

If i missed the total assault tickets from last night I should get them in mailbox like tomorrow right?

[steep vortex]

no

[feral jetty]

no they're gone

[old rose]

what

[feral elbow]

I've gotten missed tickets in my mailbox before

[feral jetty]

those were for yesod right?

everyone got those

[steep vortex]

yeah because nexon screwed up and gave extra tickets

[feral elbow]

Oh shit alright

They should do that for first day of total assault since it's shortened

If you miss it

[worldly sun]

Just pay more attention

[frozen birch]

@slate sky unless you got a dedicated video im pretty cooked

[lilac grove]

first day of TA is just lower diffs

[feral elbow]

I mean if the maintenance usually ends at like 1:30am pst you have less than 12 hours to complete it before next day

[marble gust]

https://tenor.com/view/hikaru-dr-disrespect-doctor-wtf-confused-gif-27483272

[lilac solar]

just got 27.2m upscore

chat I don't think I'm going to be able to do tor

[marble gust]

even asia had 27.32 cutoff iirc

[tropic anchor]

This raid has me doing Peroro lineups 🥀

[lilac solar]

I decently optimized p1 but completely forgot about p2

also I'm credit poor again

[tropic anchor]

At least I have it all figured out now

[frail glen]

how many weeks of 3x do we get during fest again?

just 1 or we get more?

[frozen birch]

yeah without a TL there's zero way to get Aoba to not mess up on the run

[frail glen]

I might need to farm more shooooeeeessss

[frozen birch]

oh well, i tried

guess no plat maybe

[marble gust]

isn't it intuitive

[frozen birch]

potentially

[frozen birch]

no cause after EX shes locked in this pose for like 3-4 seconds

[marble gust]

yea but why not

[steep vortex]

you did tor tho, thats plat

[frozen birch]

depending. well, i didnt do a slow tor so it should be okay?

[marble gust]

isnt the point to let the other tank get the petals

[frozen birch]

well i only have one tank

[marble gust]

bruh

[frozen birch]

just Aoba in this case, i cant run a second

[marble gust]

aoba solo tank

schizo

[tropic anchor]

I'd be surprised if NA got a Torment cutoff this time

[ancient star]

Cutoff is going to be Insane lol

[frozen birch]

Inori suggested it since i tried Haruka and it had the same problem albeit

[worldly sun]

Archibald what’s your full lun setup

[tropic anchor]

Two different sets of requirements for each phase

[frozen birch]

Haruka doesnt have a means of moving up quick

[tropic anchor]

No dice

[marble gust]

i thought i had it somewhere

[frozen birch]

Well, that’s my tor, I can upscore a tiny bit but that’s where I’m at

[ancient star]

Wakaboat is still a two pan raid after all and most people know how to just build one team at most

[worldly sun]

This is 9/11 for 1pan tor era noobs

[tropic anchor]

Filter by the Top 90% of Torment clears and scroll down

[marble gust]

i can drop ako for ptsumire

[tropic anchor]

💀

[frozen birch]

well, i guess ill wait until next wakaboat when i have either Tsukuyo or PTJuri i hope

cause i cant do that Mika hyper team since i dont have the Mika requirement for it

[ancient star]

You can probably do this team right?

[worldly sun]

Why does look like that

[frozen birch]

the DMich version is comfier is why, and i dont trust crit mald cause

[lilac solar]

imari skipper

dmich is still a whale unit btw

[frozen birch]

UNeru has like 30% crit rate and no Kisaki means her damage floor is even worse

[ancient star]

Fair

[frozen birch]

this is comfy enough

[marble gust]

bruh so low

[frozen birch]

so long as this gets plat im okay with it

at least i know lunatic is within reach

i just need a better Mika team

[ancient star]

I mean, you are probably safe for platinum anyway

[frozen birch]

cause no, i can't clear p1 with just

UNeru and SWakamo teams

[marble gust]

anyway time to

[frozen birch]

My Swakamo is capable ofc

like, 11 mil with no 30% HP condition

and roughly double that with 30% HP condition

[marble gust]

https://tenor.com/view/cac-gif-4842468385197483905

[frozen birch]

so all i need is either PTJuri or Tsukuyo and then lunatic is at least within my grasp cause

i cant even cook p2 so idk how it'll go but

[west perch]

hm

[frozen birch]

i literally have a PNoa hyper, Miyu+PTSumire, and a Meru team lined up plus any throws after that.

so p2 is sorted

[marble gust]

atp just do the mika strat

saves a tank and dps

[frozen birch]

i cant, my Mika not strong enough for that

[marble gust]

its massive

[lilac solar]

wanna borrow my extremely underraised tsukuyo

[west perch]

how fast Niko's sub scales depends on how many dealers there are on the team right?

[frozen birch]

lol i need to borrow PNoa so i cant

[marble gust]

yea frr unit

[tender eagle]

correct

[lilac solar]

understandable

[marble gust]

(real

[lilac solar]

she's 3* anyway

[frozen birch]

@tender eagle well i just hope this is plat then

[marble gust]

whens the last time someones skills depended on other students role type

[tender eagle]

are you not wanting to hw the neru team or what?

is it just the mika team you're trying to figure out?

[frozen birch]

yeah cause i want the Mika team to do more than 15 mil but

if UNeru isnt capable of even 30 mil on average ive got a problem here

cause it needs to hit 40-45 mil

no i cannot mald whatever that 60 mil team was that i heard in myth and passing

[tender eagle]

Yeah I know you don't have juri

I'm surprised you're having issues with the neru team though

[frozen birch]

yeah idk if its crit or stab

but it just doesnt do even 30 mil on average

not much i can do cause it needs to use Rio on Hifumi a few times since the CC requirement goes up with each gauge

not as bad as the Mika bald deal where you gotta Rio Hifumi A LOT more

oh well, i gave it an honest try and if i can get Tsukuyo or PTJuri, then the Mika team will be more feasible overall to try and get way more than 15 mil

cause i can clean up 20 mil or so with SWakamo

which i did test

20 mil cleanup room is very nice

[steel acorn]

I thought I can distract Wakamo by putting Mine behind her . . . but turns out she can shoot backwards 🥲 Feels wrong.

[frozen birch]

yeah the bounce happens regardless of distance or positioning

[marble gust]

ngl swaka is literally the "boss when you unlock her as a playable unit" meme

[frozen birch]

anyways, next selector or anything we get

if i dont get spooked imma get Tsukuyo

cause literally the only thing im missing here lol

[marble gust]

imagine boss ver of swakamo in pvp

[frozen birch]

or maybe PTJuri tho

[marble gust]

the more tsubaki ccs the more she nukes

[frozen birch]

idk if PTJuri fully replaces

[tender eagle]

How much are you needing out of the mika reisa team?

Cause I've gotten 20m twice in a row

I'll record

[frozen birch]

lets see, it does 15 mil on average rn so that brings me to what, 60 mil left?

i forgot

I think I wanna bring it up to 25 mil?

then 50 mil left, then if UNeru can at least do 30 mil

20 mil is cleanup work

which my SWakamo is capable of

[west perch]

again, aren't you doing the seia uneru team?

[frozen birch]

i am

its not hitting even 40 mil on average rn

[worldly sun]

Hmm I hope this is enough then (pnoa will be ue40)

[west perch]

seia uneru tank hifumi rio kisaki

wait how

[frozen birch]

i do have to Rio Hifumi at one key moment but i doubt that's what's causing it?

[west perch]

oh

that's how, you're not stacking enough

[frozen birch]

otherwise i cant stun CC at the end of the run

is why

kinda need to do that or someone dies, cause cant panic place Hifumi for non CC

[lilac solar]

can't wait to selector kok next month

[frozen birch]

yeah, but that Rio Hifumi before the run is mandated to ensure i dont die. i can look into the rest tho

[ancient star]

You are suppose to basically spam Hifumi for the first minute and a half lol

[idle rampart]

i need proper schise rot hw

whatever

[worldly sun]

There isn’t a new selector this fest unless you’ve been saving the previous one

[frozen birch]

yeah, im trying but ofc cant spam it too fast unless i Rio her

[ancient star]

Which you are suppose to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEjpzW3qfts

[lilac solar]

it's so over

kok never

[worldly sun]

Selector is every x.5 fest

[pallid inlet]

Ball knowledge

[worldly sun]

Common knowledge

[pallid inlet]

Mreisa p2 is elite ball

Mreisa my homie now

[empty verge]

why raise hifumi when i can borrow her

[frozen birch]

hm, so thats...how much damage....

[pallid inlet]

This kaiju…

[frozen birch]

like 37 mil

hm

add in 15 mil from my Mika throw and....

52 mil. leaving at 23 mil

my SWakamo prefers 20 mil but that could be feasible

[worldly sun]

Why are you “throwing” Mika, just run the team for the full distance then uneru should finish p1

[ancient star]

Yeah

Mika first, then U.Neru

[worldly sun]

No need for swakamo

[frozen birch]

sorry i meant shes the opener

takes pressure off the UNeru team

[ancient star]

Fair

[worldly sun]

15m mika is quitting after like 1-2 mins

[frozen birch]

since cant rely on UNeru landing any crits so operating on raw damage only

[ancient star]

Can you not do a full Mika team?

[worldly sun]

You only do that if you’re using the uneru “1pan”to finish off wakamo

[ancient star]

Not the one with "speedrun C.Kotama C.C."?

[frozen birch]

no UE40 CKot so yeah cant do that one

and i lack tanks

[tender eagle]

no kotama isn't a problem when you're playing slow

chise basic + ex is enough for later stuns

[marble gust]

ok fuck it

[ancient star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188961968946675772/1488743754473930822/1484984272484958378.webp

[golden knoll]

Result

D.bnnuy

when her in bunker

[astral fern]

Bruh dmichi used in p1 wakaboat

[golden knoll]

she can get ricociet @marble gust

[astral fern]

I cannot

[empty verge]

dmich versatility

must pull

[astral fern]

and why do they use k*yoko too

[astral fern]

I have to save for fest

[empty verge]

same

[astral fern]

I only have 200 pulls atm

I can't swipe

You only deno react me cuz I prio fest over dmich

[novel timber]

uoghhhh i pass p1

[frozen birch]

i wish Mika's dmg reduction buff worked in Wakaboat lol

[lament gyro]

@round kayak do i really need kotama basic

Kok got blown up

[frail glen]

Kok got what now?

[young lotus]

Guys I practiced self control

I didn't use eligma for ptsumire

I do slacc clears instead

[west perch]

[marble gust]

skill issue

comfy

[little timber]

Hmm

Good thing its a mock.

[marble gust]

thats a dogwater team

r u stuck in 2022

maki dps

[golden knoll]

@marble gust not skill

[frozen birch]

alright Mika team did 18 mil for a change nice

[ancient star]

Nice

[marble gust]

just timing issues

jk

the cover just helps her evade

[west perch]

time to be blessed

[lament gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/gamblecore-stickman-casino-gamble-gif-7118676210396292522

[golden knoll]

self bunker Not include object bunker

[old rose]

oh yea is niko gonna be in yellow tiph then

and swap kisaki for bhimari?

[astral fern]

Might be possible for me to do 1 pan ins

[old rose]

or does extra student on field become trouble

[ancient star]

She is indeed BiS EX buffer there

Read her basic btw

[old rose]

yellow tiph?

ik she got f124 yellow chok

[ancient star]

Ohhhh wait

Pff my bad

My eyesight is so bad

[old rose]

oh wait she's purple armor

maybe just dies

i thought she was red for some reason

[ancient star]

Idk about Tiph but yeah, her armor would be a problem? But maybe not?

[old rose]

she would definitely require shields, certainly more than shosh

[echo oar]

yuzu is evil when she crits

[marble gust]

who

[echo oar]

jury, judge, and executioner

[marble gust]

oh tiph

[old rose]

niko instead of shosh and bhimari instead of kisaki?

like in theory it sounds ok

[marble gust]

gws

[west perch]

oh hey I got 44 twice for the first time

[marble gust]

though the last time i said that, someone managed to kaede takane on tiph

[old rose]

but having niko and bhimari on field that will want/take shields might be a problem

[ancient star]

Certainly yeah

[old rose]

unless ofc we get a better striker shielder than tyuuka

[pure vessel]

mari

[astral fern]

How do I make this thingy bigger with Hifumi?

[old rose]

increase her cc power

[astral fern]

Ok so gear

[pure vessel]

put her in a swimsuit and she'll make your thingy bigger

[old rose]

looks like missing necklace?

cc power increases up to t8 neck

[ancient star]

Necklace 8, anything higher is pointless

[astral fern]

It is at 8

[ancient star]

EX M also relevant

[astral fern]

It's at 3

[old rose]

yea then ex5 is what ur missing

[astral fern]

Ex5 required?

Tf

[lyric hatch]

Upping ex 5 is the only way to increase it more

[ancient star]

Not required, really

But it's extra duration

[old rose]

not required, just makes it so u need another hifumi sometimes to fill gauge

[astral fern]

I'll try 4

[old rose]

which might be required to you

4 does nothing

[astral fern]

Hw cleanses this in 2 ex

[lyric hatch]

4 literally does nothing

[marble gust]

dont troll

[ancient star]

1 to 4 does nothing, 5 adds like .5 extra seconds

[old rose]

yea thats ex5

[astral fern]

Fuck

[dawn kestrel]

Is this a good run?

[astral fern]

At least I do have mats but this is bruh

[old rose]

is raising hifumi ex to 5 that bad

[lyric hatch]

Not really

[astral fern]

Trinity mats needed

[lyric hatch]

Thats gold

[astral fern]

So yes for me

[dawn kestrel]

Im planning for ins

[old rose]

yea im also trinity debt