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After getting chare niko
this was much easier than peroro lunatic
i hate idol mari
p3 is whatever is left so iwak + any buffers
I might have all the buffers needed
I didnāt feel like it
what if you threw a tank with satsuko just to shave off more time

thats exactly how i almost got bottom lun

Wtf
i hit 49mil on one day
Would niko change kurokage lunatic much?
I dont think so
no?
It might, but doubt it
Just need to pray for good fest luck then
boshi does more dmg?
headpat time 
Saukko what if you sent that every 3 hours 
imma drop shosh for btoki
Why donāt you wanna tell time that? what did it do to you
could replace her for sseia if you werent balding 2pan

It's scary
Fair

It can tell me thats its been 10 year since 2016
looking at a calendar now tells you the horrific truth: that 2006 is 20 years ago
Whatās the average yesod lunatic team clear
wakamo double smika
51784
brio borrow so u pull brio and borrow yakumo
nah i'm not consistent enough. sometimes i'm at the store or something when the headpats are due
Other than wakamo and double smika
wakamo shanako + 2 smika teams


oh damn I didn't import my sheet to my drive
fuck I dont have tyuuka can I use kotori instead
No
š„
This guy thought
Youād rather use a repo tank
xd
imine it
u dead to missiles
Regular mine
tyuuka for mutsuki mines too
Just a lot less effective
it seems most people are switching to mutsuki team transition now actually yeah
for comfy
Fym
i used her for kaiten long ago
Could yesod lunatic p1 be done without kokona
im not old bro....
yes
Seedling behavior psmh
its not too nice though
Would it be a 2 pan still
Also how was 
I havent touched it yet 
Actually how bad is yesod luna p1 without kok
you have imari
Lunatic sir
but it becomes 3 pan
Thatās also a no
oh nvm
So uh
unless u have like nagusa
Also no
idk who has nagusa and bnatsu but not kok tho
Theyāre more recent units compared to kok
But I have none of them so
yes i mean built ue40 ofc
Maybe no yesod lunatic for me
its probably best you start planning after your fest pulls
not that you dont start saving resources now

atsuko ig is option as well
Thatās something
only in full resist team
After I get chare I think thatās about all the generalist units Iād still need to unlock
if you're 4*, you just look like free food

yeah i mean kok is also used in a fully resisted team
yeah i swapped back to mreisa for now
confirmed, I get attacked more frequently without my mreisa 
i feel like kok is very useful here but it should still be doable without her with some sub
4/10 def wins with dmichiru but 2 of them was just against an a1 gambler 
this type of structure
Koharu??
what raid is this
yesod
Yesod
oh hey it was basically what i ran
you can manage quite a bit on yesod with momiji renge etc too
Could I replace kok with koharu in that second team
yes but it'd be quite a bit worse
just comfy p1 like me
uneru does a significant amount of damage and shits out kok basics

though i did manage a 24.8m uneru snagi team
never replicated it tho
rest usually 21-22
these were screenshots from the first mock I got out of p1 with
I see
real tix always like...
How should I plan for possible lunatics after this fest
don't assume new lunas will be like binah
you could just go for the reruns
I think Iād just skip srkr lunatic
why, its free
We donāt know what itās gonna be

i double checked with dajin and he said he believes in aris
I believe in Aris
see
aaris one shot p2 you see
In that case Iām not going for it
p1 the only actual phase
What about reruns of existing lunatics
yall gonna mald with the kuro dance and AAris getting cliped by a cart and exploding
any chance we get C Hanae for the baseball?
No
I feel like it has been a while since reruns adding new banners
whats stopping us from just manual cover later as the balls come out
she'll probably be the only striker capable of doing it
If they invalidate boshi out of play
boshi is probably single bounce only
The hp? Double bounce as in u bounce 2 balls at the same time
yes
but most covers are bigger than dtsukuyos for actual cover units
All special cover can only single bounce trust copoum
Have we ever talked about chesed lunatic though?
killing boshi 100% kills haruna and shimiko too
ehh
Do special cover armor matters?
dtsukuyo has armour type don't forget
I'm fine with killing haruna
im sure its gonna be like some fuck you and give the balls yellow color effectiveness
Only one type
Structure
possibly
Genius

So it won't matter then..... Hmmm
think her range is pretty shit tho and she doesnt wanna be running so much instead of aa but
we also have michiru
I was thinking how like
Each bounce give vul up
So double bounce means double the vul
How does one get 3rd, 4th PV, etc?
What are the requirements?
forgot to permit her???
Uhhh what?
sorry I meant PV š
probably, but I would like to know the requirements
got it
Most of us don't keep track on how to unlock those, they just naturally appear when reading story. PV4 seems to be a Volume F reward at the very least. Idk about PV3
just use all and farm her during hards to 200/200
got 3 months should be fine
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f2p?
bruh no niko
lmao does this actually clear f100
Mald high crit on 2nd p2 team with dhina 
yea it used like 2 times across 3 min
and in that case she is better than serika ig
is it
massively ye
even more so with kurumi now
extra atk buff
even longer to wait p1
my ssjerika is so goated
well with mutsu team the most important part is just lining up double ex+basic inside red
i saw someone testing walk in p2 dhina instead https://youtu.be/Vwz71ehvw64
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not possible without p1 start
causew call it psychotic
he always exaggerates
imo it's so absurd it turns good
yea the 50th percentile lunas is all 8+ pans
its good streamer reaction but it just makes sense
ur only caring about red dmg for that strat anyways
u can tank the less dmg to pink with self shieldbreak
yes
it has it upside but using so much support on this team has it's problem
team building wise
i like it in a way
I gotta try this
it's so free
but the slower p1 might be killer for the strat
unless they find a way to make second p2 team shoshilet work
Well, that was a fun exercise
EX was a bit of a challenge, but 1-3 were so insanely free
ex was free with 2 cc tanks and 1 st heal + shanako + iwak + repos 
Challenge 3 was also so free, I almost 1 tapped the boss
Did BA EOS yet
00:00 1
02:07 2
02:38 3
05:34 4
08:51 5

little busy rn but was it just critmald
ok its more difficult than it looks but seems to actually work
cc optional
Team 1: Phase 1 down to 5m
Team 2: Clean up
Team 3: Mutsuki+Ako/Himari deal 38m
Team 4: dHina deal 57m
Team 5: Izumi shiroko deal 25m
57mil dhina

seem like about 10~11m per dHine Ex
izumi shiroko dealing that much is crazy though
I guess that's what happens when only green is left
it just... stands there and AAs
bringing red set metas to kaiten
Hmmm...that tech probably works with Sexy Eimi, no?
Using her for Team 5 cleanup, since it is just Green
sure yeah, but why would you pull beimi and ue40+ her to do something farmables do
I meant if people wanna scorechase and stuff
even more farmables check 
Your priority is cheap clears, I like to work out theoretical fast clears
Cos I'm not the one doing it anyway

i dont even have base shiroko unlocked...
Also did you pull d.michiru?
I also don't have her unlocked lmao
Ain't got time to unlock Shiroko when you got other shit to farm
Why is the explosion rate so high?
ragebait 
bro came from cn server
oh? I thought it was sim
It's Chinese lmao
Also, I was like "why tf is Mutsuki doing so much" then I realized "oh shit, all her Basics probably hits Kaiten"
yea need tyuuka repo her closer for it
Tyuuka also takes 0 damage from kaiten minigun move with correct timing
That has to be a bug right
yes I also have a foreign service account.
and then fest 5.5 can release an urban red dps and make luna kaiten and hiero both easy
Nah, the minigun is actually AoE
Once it targets the area it does not track anyone that leaves the AoE area
Machinegun is aoe
That's why minigun dodge gaming is a thing
It's also the same reason why if your tank dies to minigun, and there's another student in the AoE area, they get targeted after that
and tyuuka shield persists until missiles?
@summer dew
:takanepoint:
Guys, how about this?
83/90
Hi kaijus
not a priority anymore (see hina dress) but nice unit to own

oh
Saukkaiju
Give me a raid
I give you a raid

Itās nothing
nuked
How much of a difference did Kei make for peroro lunatic
She's double buffs
how much was the increase even
i tunneled in with the crit boost that I forgot the dmg increase

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Whereās the clears with kei then
haven't seen any mocks on Luna yet
guess the JP peeps got bored after last GA peroro
they are mostly testing out older raids


Well, perm mock raid is a paradise for balders

96m
ye that one
Its sustainless team
How much did the boshi comps without Kei do then

does that require UE 40 ibuki btw
Kei needs it
Hp after final laser
How much did boshi teams do when we had peroro on global
okay that needs UE 40 ibuki also 
But why is the damage so high?
it needs ibuki basic to hit peroro itself
so I need to time it right
Depends how bhoshi crits harder
aka crit
okay that's understandable
that run took him 4 hours to get once
this is just the usual peroro speedrun it's fine
:clueless:
wait how many crits tho
before the last ex blast?
cause there's alot of crits on this 
How bad is the baldris p2 team for goz lunatic if it has byuzu
Indoor?
Miha Tour
dude its 1 out of 4 lun teams
or more
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How bald is that goz p2 team
the fuck 1st team part break
even dhina doesnt do 60mil in any team
well fine but u cant run the same team twice
yea but u have the distinct advantage of not having red aura
so allegedly u can deal more damage than u typically could
its like pnoa doing 51mil on boat
it's possible imo
but at the cost of slower p1
which might means not as good of score
yea maybe a 1pan p1 and a 2pan p2 are both possible, but not simultaneously
4 pan is basically for sure happening
it's 9:30 total time it's almost 3 team time
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Time to check the meta team for challenge EX.
I only half knew what I was doing here.
OH MY GOD
yakumo is quite angry with you
yakumo is not feeling very well today it seems
Ex challenge is so free it can be done with any teams
evil yakumo
ex challenge so free it can be done without any teams
So sad that because it's Urban they aren't using S.Hina in P1
So... normal Yakumo? š
Seriously though, all you need in ex chal is heal the scarecrow and 2 def downs and dps spam
also, i did monte-carlo sims for the ligma farm for the ninja event. these are the pity adjusted rates for 300 rolls over 100,000 simulatios 
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Monte Carlo results (eligma)
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rolls = 300
sims = 100,000
Ļ = 15.855
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mean: 501.027
min: 439.000
max: 571.000
top 1%: 538.000
top 10%: 521.000
median: 501.000
bottom 10%: 481.000
bottom 1%: 464.000
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Yield per roll (eligma)
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mean: 1.670
min: 1.463
max: 1.903
top 1%: 1.793
top 10%: 1.737
median: 1.670
bottom 10%: 1.603
bottom 1%: 1.547
------------------------------------
yeah, the tip may have misled me, still, what works work
so 1.67 ligma per ticket
this reminds me of horror VNs that genuinely creeped me out
kinda low, ngl. By the end of the event, you prob get 300 (on average)
well, I say horror VNs but the worst ones are romance VNs that are sub-horror
I love smika stages
noo now I'm remembering the worst of it 
I think as long as you find your clear, its nice.
yea 300 seemed like a good number to do sims on. tbf the monte carlo is accurate as long as your roll per sim count is at least like 2~3x the soft pity threshold 
300 does not feel like a lot if you think how much you need to raise a student, but every bit counts
oh i meant 300 entry tickets but uhh yeah i hoarded a shit ton 
without a massive hoard i think like around 200 over 2 weeks or so
yup, sounds correct
How much ligma to 4 -> Ue40 a student again?
1k
1000
my first 100 ramen pull
I am very glad we start at 4 star now
And most of time I dont Ue40 a student, only DPS and healers
what are either of you even on about
You can still be unfortunate
y'all not doing normal missions next week?
My friend got imari on wappi banner and didn't get the extra 100 eleph
wait what you are hitting the exact base rates i grabbed from the wiki 
Usually, I do normals, but this event is good farm so I'll skip this time
Good money, some artifacts, eligma
i copied from wiki duh
how lucky, could have gotten 200 Eleph 
oh i thought that column was calculated
I haven't even opened any today btw
Insane
Offrate spook really won't give you the extra 100 elephs
Seeing a pile of elgima turn into dust make me never make any student Ue50
but when you get her on their banner, you get 200 eleph instead of 100 eleph
I am torn by the idea of making Wakamo ue60 though since I only need 100 elephs
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damn dHin 1st team phase 2
Is that how it even works? I don't remember seeing extra 200 on first obtain
How should I prep for reruns of lunatics
Each raid is their own thing.
oh first 52mil on kaiten
I know
idk if this is old news
How should I decide
I think the most broad advice I can give is "make sure to have all fest"
Still wonāt be able to go for Mika š„
the last team looks already very f2p
Binah seen to be very easy
Ye ik
Is this an update?
1 year old update
I'd say, see the one you are closes to reach and invest on that? On this topic, Kaiten seen to be the most expensive to prepare so I would focus on it last.
If that's so, why did I only get extra 100 mreisa elephs
After binah lunatic I guess I could go for hod lunatic
Despite getting it on her own banner
you need to have them first to get 200 eleph
gigakaiju 52m
new unit rate up get 100
owned unit first time rate up 200
If you get Reisa on her banner for the first time = +100 Elephs
If you spook Reisa off banner but then pull her on her banner = +200 Elephs
will i get better chance winning my def if i ue30/40 dmitchy
Yes
most def i lost got shun there

UE40 or don't slot
40 average ligma for 1200 pryoxines (10 pull)
so thats
so thats 0.03333 ligma per pyro
3x refresh is 180 for 360 energy?
360 energy = ? rolls?
i wanna ue40 mreisa for frr too..
Finally done the story to active vol f 
I am the tip
@odd geyser do u have ue40 dmitchy, and how do u feel about it 
I usually would say the next fest student will help a lot on previous bosses, but I expect the next fest to be green.
Inb4 they're red
Green dps 
i mean that depends on your bonus right?
1 entry = 300 event points
q12 = 36 + bonus per 20ap
A red special would be welcome, but if it's strikers it will prob be useful on a single raid
Imagine first raid with purple atk
My personal wish list is a new aoe purple student but I am ok with whatever.
wouldnt a red striker be more flexible since special slot is highly contested
Personally I'd prefer a red one but I know that's not happening
Greg and Deb favor special students
deb = geb after surgery 
eh dont think theyll make it for those raids
since they made smisaki for greg already
as for geb
Red is probably the best color right now with options. So much stuff is usable on Kaiten

always has been?
Always has been yes, but given they keep getting more the gap keep widening.
our red roster has been in the shadow of dhina for 2 years now
Blue got a boss with McAris, and Ny Kayoko is 1 extra support other colors lack
xerina have yellow buff tho!
If you remove DHina, we still have Aru, Toki, SNonomi, Wario and all of this buffed by S Hoshino
You remove Mika from yellow and you have U Neru and Maki.
kikyou basic 
beeeeeg!
Cope
Cope
notice how you mentioned all urban dps
real and true
Looking from distance, yellow looks ok, but once you factor armor, mood and how the fights play, they dont have that many options.
literally only works if we're looking at chesed
She's not limited
I'm gonna bring kei to set 
isnt she used on F124 
why u bring my wife to set

at 4*, yeah
Whaddya meannnn
is she still used after fest? 
cheap asfq
peroro
Yes because they stack and she still have higher blue buff overall on single target
do we still need acari after kei 
Uhhhh
oh lol, they stack
ngl I havent used acari since blue kaiten and I fcking sparked for her wtf
durg I blame you
Anyways I'm going full on ue60 debut
look at srkr
i need to justitfy my 20$ 
Idk just stare at her mochi in l2d

I noticed when push come to shove, I alway suse the same 6 specials, something on the lines of Ako, Kisaki, S Nagisa, Himari, Fish, NyFuuka
ssg whel
So even if I like the idea of using something like Acari, will I NOT use Himari or Ako given a chance?
@round kayak how much do you think I can babysit with 3 healers
hmm i will selector her then
I regret to inform you that is a thing of the past after baris. Until maybe Lunatic
(shitty selector only 3*)
who? Akari?
smh
ye
yeah? I'm only considering lunatic
torment does not exist
I also think with Michiru, another special slot been taken
sounds dependent on your lineup but there's not many to slot her in
Well that's a hypothetical until real
last time i use her is Binah Tmt iirc
SRKR lunatic could be mad easy
im out of good option for selector
She's lazing around

easy just buy for dupe
Poor Oshig deserve better
Foobs lost her balls
balls revoked wallai....
because of purple dps?
Baris Kamehameha
People suspect McAris would body him, but Nexon can always adjust his HP
gonna make geb chan very comfy
yeah, I think the same
Cope
I expect the fight to be adjust for dual McAris, but this would means a lot of HP
Yeah
however, Nexon should consider that people pulled for her to feel powerful
hmm btw do u guys think we gonna have ui update and the practice room early 
balls hit 3 lanes to force cover strats and on p2 crow targets everyone which can be blocked by a cover already in the stage via repo
if all bosses get buffs because of her it would feel not good
No
eh peroro didnt get buffed and they cant touch goz
I'm silly
rabu emotional support
So far, the usual rule been to raise boss HP x4
lemme do a test run with rabu
looks at chokmah's corpse
I think we feel that pretty well
D mood btw
later fest benefits
well frankly a lot of it is because chokmah fits aaris' kit pretty well
Guaranteed crits
no one else really pumps hyperbuffed 20 cost EX in that short of a timeframe
For blue chokmah specifically?
gambling everyday
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Howās the no hibiki life like
my def looks like the canal outside
Shite?
worse
I think she can do better in blue
like getting node 3 radiant but it contains 3x gold abydos tech notes instaed
I think Iād end up dry sparking Mika if I did roll for her
@round kayak was it this? idk
Nezo do you think Iād end up dry sparking Mika if I rolled for her

Iām gonna assume yes
So Iām not rolling for Mika
What type of animal is Mika based on
gorilla
where UE 30, isnt it free 
couldn't farm much
Chare more important than mika for me
did anyone ever consider rabu dps somewhere else
my soshi shrine is slowly getting crowded by the horrow of minmaxing bonds
best spot of my cafe
nah chrimmus season is just half a year away
i was about to type it then i saw your message lol
Christmas season with bikini and sunscreen

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Hydrogen bomb
Nezo do you believe I can do f100 yellow tiphareth with seia
not with uneru
Thatās a fair point
I donāt think f100 would be possible with both of them
But if I focus on seia and borrow Mika instead
she should be fine
no syukari?
alright
Otherwise f100 is not happening
Is it crazy if I upgrade Rio and snagi watch to t10 for seia
well if you need it then sure
gotta rio tyuuka
For wave 4 what would the rotation look like
ui(syukari) rio(tyuuka), nuke comes, tyuuka(c) tyuuka kisaki syukari snagi aoba mreisa rio(syukari) syukari(c) kisaki syukari
or fit ui in somewhere
What about the aa just before ceremonial dawn?
finally obtained my human rights today
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isnt that the 60m dhina
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The shield from late wave 3 lasts through the aa
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Iām also thinking
What if I use mreisa late into wave 3 so she absorbs an aa when tiph awakens
seia hg user
@round kayak 
Now put S. Miyako furniture in the center, just like how Minto did
I actually like how the chairs are properly angled
waiti meant seia instead of ui lol
Thatās true, but would it be a good idea regardless
the chairs man i hate them
no shes guaranteed to get aaed
mreisa only tanks one
i have dupes of cmaki and kaho furniture, surely they won't mind..
If mreisa taking an aa means another member on my team doesnāt get hit?
just two more days till recollection banner
Even if itās not necessarily seia
my magnum opus
prolly syukari herself
no...
Or shasumi in my case
just be unranked and you'll have no problems
why is there no frr mocks
kitchen on fire but he cooks so hard he makes it work
this game forcing me to do tor
Tbf FRR IS a mock
For frr other than what we currently have?
Well
I kinda see the vision now
I mean tbf you have a whole ass month to mock
just imagine its two of your wives fighting but they start getting steamy off battle after you clear
comfier than whatever he is doing
how bad is the 60m
Force fields in f100 only get one damage tick?
...
not even bad
who's furniture is that on the center 
bruh
generic bed
place to nap on
oh hey its lower than last kaiten ga
also that strat is lowkey degenerate
52m 
dhina shieldbreak
Shinata?
It ain't
just generic
saving me from investing in brioche

You know
What if someone puts all those chairs and places S. Mika BP bed
And now the chairs are Rapi Chairs
I think seia dies on f100 when tiphareth awakens without shield
The late tyuuka wave 3 kinda matters I think
Oh yeah definitely
there's this hammock furni but its for moe lol
40 average ligma for 1200 pryoxines (10 pull)
so thats
so thats 0.03333 ligma per pyro
3x refresh is 180 for 360 energy
1 entry = 300 event points
q12 = 36 + bonus per 20ap
360 energy = 18 sweep
18 sweep = 36 x 18 (not counting bonus)
648 event points
648 event points = 2.16 tickets
2.16 x median 1.67 =
3.6072 ligma per 180 pyrox
= 0.02 ligma per pyrox
is that kei's ex
might have some math wrong im tired
lmao whys byuzu ex voice so funny
like a squack
u should put yesods instead
hold on im cooking
are you cooking a new gallery
T10 watch on Rio and snagi barely changes anything apparently
these chairs are 3x3 man and the furniture is 2x2 raaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrghh
above average. the median is 1.67
im at 230m eligma

man i wish
Ssg whel
if i craft 3 more of the B chairs i can get a row of 12 tiles that would align nicely with the 2x2 furniture 
well fuck me

1
had to burn 25 purple furnitures back then when I first started building for my abydos classroom cafe set
it was worth it
I dont even know what to do with the furniture
ayane will forgive me if it's for shosh?
nah i cant burn abydos for abydos summoning ritual
that aint right
that is true
vol 1 chapter 3 in a nutshell
ful
Remind me
I have b20 3* Saki and discarded all the chairs 
almost close to B50 kei
just use bond calculator
Thereās uncertainty in the xp amount though
maybe start calculating after the next bond increase so you start on a fresh level
If Iām going for b50 on multiple students
Should I fodder the 40xp gifts on the other students Iām not immediately going for?
Also thanks for the reminder 
dmichi voice is so facking cute
Im furni poor now 
someone apparently find it annoying
L
L indeed
I agree
dgoatchiru
Kirara voice is annoying af
god do I want to read her momotalks
Ditch is cute
Pray for spook 
I do

tf lvl 1 dmitch
shut up nezo
nah shes better without it


At the current bond level iwak is at, itās gonna take a lot more gifts to b50
what level
30
u just reached it?
Wtf
this is cute
beat me
no
What do I do then
patience
yeh be patient ig
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