#💬gameplay-discussion
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anyway
I cant justify pulling tyuuka unfortunately
it seems that the kisaki events is not getting cut short
so you are telling me that
they cut idol
but not kisaki event

gotta love it lmao
Shit is ridiculous ngl
John Nexon strike again
IIIRC, one week is for JFD and the other is for GA
I roll only for Dress Ako although for I I could also roll Makoto after getting Dress Ako in 70
Oh yeah maybe they can't cut kisaki event because the waka mika sHoshi banner
NGL I am fine if they cut kisaki event and push the prefest to mid may and anni to late may
at least then they are consistent
No, it happens during this event a week later
but the fact they deliberately choose to cut IDOLS
IDOLS
instead of the shanhaijing event
is beyond me
Like I said, probably to cover For JFD And GA before the world tour stuff I presume
yeah it’s genuinely mind blowing they decided to cut a welfare really good event and left a dogshit no welfare shit rewards event 2 weeks long
They love to cut welfare/eligma farming event
It would have been fine if it was week 1 of this event Wakamo then week 2 JFD
Can't have freebie
And then Kisaki event just cover the Other GA
But not everyone can be winners, I suppose
It has to do with the raid schedule lol
How much ligma do you get from the event if you do it for the entire 12 days with 999 ap
What is ur bonus
95%
rip my expert permits this week
They should halve the prices in the permit shop instead
S Koharu in the shop is new, right?

idk who john nexon is and atp I'm too afraid to ask
yeah
oh theyre down to 6?
7
wow
5pan would only be possible if they can get 1p p1

Yeah
what the midori doing
its possible 4 pan no?
Probably hp adjustment
hello whels
we've seen p1 wanpan and p2 3pan
depends if the units overlap
I have 90% of the units for it already
the new premium reds are what worry me
but I see some classic mutsuki teams
so surely I'll be fine
It's time to UE my BToki after all
Yeah


I think everybdoy needs to be high invest to survive missile and lasers, so even if I had all the students needed, a lot of them would be 3 or 4 stars
part break still exists right?
I am surprised I havent seen a single Shunny team
it does
you use the students who cant survive them after you break them
Eh, her ex isn't spammable
Since there's a drawback
its 42m now though 
yeah, but sword is not on pink anymore. A red team can survive both sword and missile
7pan?
Do parts stay broken for 1 team or forever?
6
Nice
they used to always break forever
forever, parts hp caries over from team to team
P1 is kind easy with Yakumo, but all clears I saw, I find it pretty slow.
Mine is 100% bonus and my rate is 1,8 eligma/ramen
Mine is 100% bonus too
a more dedicated shunny team
And I think my rate rn is 2 eligma per ramen
What each aura do? I know green is some kind of dmg reduction (Def?)

Green is healing down
With more def
Actual Shunny use eh
He always has aura up now though, so if you break pink, he'll cycle between red and green
Whel teams
My Shunny is already Ue50 and Shang materials are pretty much free. Just need credits.
Yeah
bro was cooking wtf is this
so surviving sword and missile is more doable?
Kaiten Luna gave reason for at least 3 banners to exist. If I was on a budget, It makes Goz / Greg prep looks tame
is kurumi just a fat red tank for kaiten?
Yes
cc doesn't matter in p2 right
yeah, it all comes back to not running outta red tanks lmfao
the best red tank I suspect
I imagine she was made specifically for lunatic kaiten
I'd say also for upcoming new raid
I'm glad I had the foresight to pull Yakumo for raid
You need shield breaker, you need CC, you need a tank that survive gatling, you need healing and p2 units need to have red armor
And of course, you need the usual dps + buffers
so since im not gonna get Kurumi and cant rely on Yakumo spook
luna kaiten is out for me
i pulled on jp without reading her kit entirely ngl
I think we have more DPS than buffers who can properly buff them for P2
meanwhile:
There might be a chance I get niko early and I go for walnut
lowkey i don't think you need yakumo for luna kaiten at all
I mean she’s literally a slot in for any content where she doesn’t die due to bad armor
just hyperbuff brio
I might go for it even without own yakumo
p2 is the more problematic phase anyway
you have plenty of options for p1
isn't it getting out of p1 without wasting resources you'd rather keep for p2
are we pretending that cdmg res debuff is good now
As long as the raid doesn’t specifically call for a tank with another gimmick like repos
for kurumi, I think it's mainly this
when more and more raid are getting guaranteed crit phase, yeah
that and taking minigun with zero dmg
survivability + buff + free cost
yeah i still think you can get away with no yakumo
The succesful runs I saw had 10 minutes left on clock. I think without Yakumo you start racing the clock
i had no clue she buffed ally attack, damn
striker subskill buff sounds stackable af too
I mean it’s definitely possible
It’s just
But I can see teams without Yakumo working, I just think it will be a big hassle.
raises the cost sigifncisntly lol

I'll keep apprehensive though and say I won't do kaiten like expected 
even though that 3pan p2 from earlier suggests otherwise
I think dps wise, I should be fine
ima keep farming mutsuki and hina
I was alr planning on pulling brio konoka and kurumi anw
So only beimi added to pull plans
And can prob even get away with no beimi
borrow kisaki??
That is a move of all time
it's understandable
tank boshi tho... it make me upset
Mutsuki dps
just dodge the machine gun ez game
real?
I'm guessing its just green aura and you want subskill debuff
and machine gun is gone
oh wait yeah they're probably breaking both red and pink on the dhina team
Once you reach P2, its more a roster check. Being able to survive sword means you can create a lot of teams, but he has so much HP you end up just chipping his HP anyway.
i mean i guess just any tank can survive after pink and red are gone
she's homeless i'm afraid
Ill prob pull Yakumo on rerun
cheaper to raise than SNonomi
depending on how hard that first pan is I might just do kaiten
i'd like to test out yakumolet teams on p1 but it's a shame i'll just get spooked by her on fest
I don't think these teams are really malding too much outside of the dhina/aru teams ngl
yeah that's the good part
I can run a team before and a team after and then another team after that, still
when you have this many teams, you can't mald on all of them
UNeru gets way more hits and higher floor damage
depends on how bad BRio's floor is since its lower by nature of being handgun and having no guaranteed crit
that wario team is making me think that wario borrow might actually be the strat for this kaiten
10m dmg per ex...
If you have a full roster, you just make 6 teams for p2 and dont reset. The teams do consistent damage and there is no mechanic like eyes to mess you up. Its a very predictable fight.
I like how many different solutions exist
the teams I saw were mostly so simple even I could run it
that helps, it's p1 im more worried about tbh
no Kurumi and no Yakumo on my end
are people just using niya for cost subskill?
I'd need JP to figure out yakumolet p1 first to do double shosh
otherwise like... I'm good? I have enough dps for p2
The DPS I saw for p2
Wario
Mutsuki
Full Band
Izumi + Serika
Shunny
BEimi
DHina
Special mention: Hibiki
yakumo borrow, but saved Aru mutsuki shosh for p2
I did not saw a Hibiki team, she just tagged along on other teams
nearly a pvp team
and I have Rena takane brio mutsuki shunny dhina
welp, finally finished event story
Ha, so it exist... kinda of a suicide team tbh. Maybe grog adjust?
check deniki's clear
that's final team
Finally have a reason to like more tall bnnuy
fuyu breaks shield, skanna tank, hibiki dps
All in all, fun raid, but I am glad I dont have the roster because its loooooong
hibiki team does 13m dmg in deniki's clear
Link?
he optimized her out
final team is gdd flex
13m dmg team is still a 13m dmg team
regardless of whether he used her in the final clear or not
全く最適化されていない初クリア回です。Lunaticの難易度がどの程度かの参考にしてください。
下記配信のクリア回を抜粋したものです。
【ブルアカ】総力戦S88 市街地カイテンジャー Lunatic 初見攻略配信 (KAITEN FX Mk.0 Lunatic Fresh Prog)
https://www.youtube.com/live/wAOpN...
so yeah i have to pass luna kaiten i wont have the units for it
trust in spooks
wont be getting BEimi
since I got lucky this banner maybe I can pull...
how lucky are we talking about?
yuuuup, pretty lucky. I got the 2nd one at 170.
but hey, I got both. I am happy
i'm still not fully convinced of luna kaiten's difficulty
the absolute disrespect for this sichika...
just wait until people start optimizing this shit more
yeah, its gonna be optimized further
I'm just glad some of the day 1 clears look approachable
the optimized clears are gonna start looking more whel
I think mechanically, this one is easier than Tor, as in, if Tor had this mechanics, it would be a cakewalk. Its just the HP that make it harder
Not having to worry about sword is huge, and Yakumo is P1 ez mode.
I dont expect much changes though, the boss just has too much HP and time gates with green aura. Its a slow and steady fight
I didn't know peav has ue60 byosh
I was curious to see if the borrow would be DHina or Hoshi, and Hoshi won
The FA debuff yeah, makes P1 easier, and yeah, not having to worry too much about sword is good, but the accuracy buff on P2, not at all, it makes Marina almost impossible to use
I am surprised more people did not try Marina + another tank but I guess there are just so many students you can bring
fml
Wait what did they change about the sword
the dhina team goes to 11 cost

sword happens at green aura instead of pink
so more students can survive
pink aura is not on sword, so sword deals less dmg (not one shot)
It hurts but not that much
for example, band students (blue armor) can survive sword
Oh damn I didn't notice that
good thing UE60 Ako is f2p
11 cost, not even 10.5? Full blow 11?
team gets cc'd, stuck doing jackshit at 11 cost
the time to make archive pulls is coming closer

I am waiting for the rerun of archive
2nd archive banner is gonna get a new type of ticket lets be real
did you know? peavine is whel
is it confirmed?
archive banner update
peavine is above whale
schizo
killer whale
I thought peav just has many acc
at this point I feel like Archive banner updating is cope (won't stop me from saving that archive spark for eternity)
so ue60 is not of significant consequence
5 accounts = 5x pyrox and eligma income
i am the f2p you can trust
1 dmichiru eleph from lesson
she'll be ready for kaiten
lmfao when did this happen

do you get 100% crit in p1 with cc now lmfao
those arus and hinas just didn't seem right man
so far
+10% flat crit rate every time you cc a kaitenger to a max of 50
ah it was 50%
So if you hit all 5 you get +50% for 15s (the kaitenger also takes 80% more dmg)
my discord just crashed 3 times in a row. Hooray.
It’s kinda like yesod’s crit buff
Oof. Felt that.
oh, I haven't used sroko or rio yet
Meaning Bonus Crit Rate. If your student has higher than 50% crit rate, they'll sure crit hence hardly balding.
or Ui. Heck, is anyone even using Ui?
I have her at ue30 
I might just slap her on mutsuki
oh yea is there any vid on the brio super team
not that I've seen, only searched yt though
Good job!
🫶
huh with all the decoys for minigun and heals I'm actually running out of dps
aaris?
Accident!!!
hm, I need to know how the dodge works
where's that izuna example
cuz I'm like almost sure it doesn't work with 550s
unless they're in the far corner opposite
doding the gatling?
oh, I run out of healers
i pulled dmichiru for raid
Should I use t4 batteries or Atlantis medals to craft artifact selectors?
i just finished the story
i WISH i didn't dry spark
so I could exchange D tsukuyo

when will my dry spark curse end
I think she with tYuuka
Need right rot and timing to dodge the machine guns
i'd be happy to see it
but i was talking abt this superteam
no healer/no shieldbreak, pure buffs
what's this
team 1 of the 3pan luna p2
ew....
not 6 pan?
p2 3 pan
ahh so 5 pan?
I think someone posted a 200m Aru team
Hit rank 20 somehow
YES Mika 67 AGAIN 
Without ditch
I have dMich but still use my old atk comp
seems like something yuzu just magically beats
doing a bit of expirementing with dmich + mreisa, im consistently beating saki teams now
I always prefered dmichiru + satsuko for double healer
surely I can spook her
might mess around with that too
although I really don't like grouping Kaitengers
seems like i need every fucking unit in the game to be able to even scratch top 10
fuck this bracket
i’m considering going anon soon, i think there’s a mini mafia in my bracket
anon only works if a lot of people use it
hold on I'm gonna need to flip half my teams over
regardless it feels nice to have found something that actually works and i can go back to camping r2
life as a pvp slaccer feel so good
There is 150-180m sizumi strats iirc

Not on PC rn so might be hard to dig the vid
finally
i’ll be finished with ue40 sshiz too by the end of the month which is perfect timing

Change nickname and into new sensei title

preliminary. Not sure if decoys in 3/5 work as expected.
shove her into an AA team with oshig or smth
is she better than hibiki tho?
oh, so not rena skanna
you can't hibiki uakane rena skanna tank healer
because you can't break shield
so you'd either not skanna for shield break or not bring heal
uakane is derserve to raise

oh what the heck
there's a double himari clear
uses the same p1 I'm using, but they wanted ako himari mutsuki??
fr
Very fond of the ‘Kane
no rio brio msuzumi beimi
This is
huh, that aru shiroko izumi eimi nagi mreisa team is really picking up
surprisingly not that expensive
how much does it do?
fr
I think devs actually cooked some good stuff
with the raid balancing for this thing

damage dealt is also relatively balanced amongst teams too
yeah, we get to run multiple teams still
like 20m-40m?
but most are accessible
no dhina super team shit becuase she has bad mood

outdoors dhina would probably do like 60m by herself 
dhina survives sword now

i really wanna do a mutsuki team at bare minimum 
p2 is funny
gatling is giga stronk
but everything else is pretty nerfed

sword doing less damage than in torment
f2p raid fr
we f2p are here to stay
f2p'nt
hold on its actually affordable now?
no?
none of the above clears look affordable lmao
well, as affordable as peroro
farmables check...
cus u didnt farm farmables
exactly
we f2p farm our farmables
Its very affordable for vets
sorry for not playing long enough to farm up
arch you have time to farm equips now

no need to pay 100k permits
cant speedrun time
im like 25-75 on doing kaiten lun
if you're like relatively fresh
cus hina isnt ue50

oh i forgot to even put her in

wait I run out tanks at that point
is it
for debut raid yeah
hina mutsuki aru shiroko neru azusa shunny
we got too stronk
uneru 
they share neru hina too
raid shop, old hard nodes, neru/hina shared
and a bunch of events gave aru shards too
so
it'd be weirder to not have a strong aru at this point unless you're new

ue50 is strong enough yes? 
early progress to UE70
2ancient4me

how do you guys even get ue50 hina
Farming
human right
still ue 30 
guide missions too
she had been on my farming list for so long

does it even give elephs
majority of my hina farm was 1-node only
i only got her for free
day 1 of asking nexon to reduce the price for welfares in ep shop
kaiten ready
lol
shoulda farm her before
imagine not farming hina for bond uncap
ok whelstark

guide mission
idk when I gave her that LB
was 100 elephs iirc
wait why do ya'll have her maxed already
red kurokage
oh
i farmed her since I started playing bruv
why not

yeah, I kept her up to date for boat


that 500 atk diff oof
yeh
lol
me f2p hina okay
lmao even
no shina
she's next on the list after B150 hoshino 
My Hina is still ue30
my shina is kinda homeless
actually I should save this round of atk lb
tho kei is actually first lmao

for kei and b.aris
Genius
there were also a couple JFDs that used og hina
yes
lb25 healing because she heals my soul
I atk lb all FES
4* kei possible in both 124 blue chok and blue set

this gonna take awhile
surely this answer isn't the bias one
to do b150 mari

ill only consider kaiten if yakumo spooks me
your og noa is b23
if im gonna do kaiten luna I have a whole damm list again to do fuck
yeah im seriously doubting my yakumolet kaiten capabilities
it's cuz yours is 2 atk higher than mine and my og noa is b22 
i'll check back after fes pulls
I did giga invest into pnoa because she's basically perma meta for boat
and I wanna steal borrows from the plebs

go go ez
how bout YOU do kaiten luna
no

i wont be doing any luna
smh
based
even binah?
imma wait til we have more luna fests to do like 1 or 2 pan
skipping binah is a power move ngl
blue tor kaiten before aaris is harder than lunament
go to bed amshirooo
Hahahahhahahahahaha
sun to hot
it's 1pm
oh hey careguy
Hi bezo
you doing luna kaiten?
nezo thought everyone was whel like him
smh
Keep dreaming you whalezo
...
birds of a feather...
im in the abyss where the hell is down
I already have ue40 
dang looks whel enough
kiki ue60
10.5c wtf
Good thing Mikong is coming up next week
good thing im skipping
backbone consisting of farmables
my kok is healthy
Me too
i need a kok spook
strong kok 
how do you not have kok stark 
select
when was the last kok banner anyway
but im kinda concerned about that ue4 kiki and ue4 mikong
im not whale

eons ago
10.5 cost cheaper than having kok tbhtbh
What the absolute fuck did i just read
but yeh im not sure

eh im already half set with healerless p1 but i might need ue4 mika for it, so kinda shit
last time krkg luna with ue3 shanako wasnt fun
what if stark is a girl
i will borrow bhimari if anything goes wrong tbh
Stark is this true
where ur
stark confirm pls
idk
girls can have kok too...
look at thailand
mods ban this guy
kok is a girl
you made me remember that godamm twitter post....

ngl the new bounty shop is goat'ed
summons maple
SHE SO CUTE RAA CAN I KEEP HER
where's your dmitch whelshiro
30th 
got the final elephs from pulling, forgot to claim till now
go out and play
im already playing
so nezo is a kid ... and he's a huge rex
not raising my dmich for now since im saving resources for fests
where's your dmich whelzo
im not pulling whelstark
pnoa neru
Pnoa neru maki chare
he pulled yakumo
yellow AA, yellow AA, yellow AA, yellow AA, healer, buffer
whel stark

should I 4 star her
free
I capped himari bond a long time ago
😟
more UE 40 himari stonks on kaiten luna 
just 20m hp more
her gun is cute
that's just 10-15 seconds worth of damage
Just use striker himari psmh
😟 😟
tks for ur byosh
I guess I never spooked himari even once
im actually pretty cooked cause I only allocated the free pulls for them (and im grabbing brio also) 
set is more suck than i initally thought
fraud byosh
67!

7032 doko
gib me some
just pull
is this team enough for 106
eligma is free
funni number
you aren't on NA shut up
Wtf nezo…
You have less than 10k ligma you are not close
is iwak nagi ur orb popper
yes
No
because i have timing skill
I made some funny choices
what do i need to change
You guys have eligma?
Do f109
1000 eligma

🦖
how much eligma from 3* to 4 again?
300
i need 6100 ligma for boat
Wow
excellent choice
I would think twice if it was like
above 800
but 300?
just rounding errors from my drying streaks
Bruh I don't think you understand
yeah I don't
tbh i would rather commit to ue instead of 4*
If I 4 or 5* every student when I hit b20 I would be dried to the atoms
Its either 3* or UE40 for the beautiful sickly genius idiot girlfailure of a grandma-coded girl
i did it once for nykayo and lowkey felt stupid for it
yeah no idt this will work
just ignore bruh
need skikyou ffs
shes not gonna run away if you stop bonding
either ue or dont
It’s not for no reason you probably have her vending machine in the cafe
no d.ako?
dmich doko
I haven’t used himari enough to find extra bond levels worth it
dammit it was hard
who dino me
wtf
It is in fact. Whale
how did you know
...
just like my dhina here
Interactive furniture makes them show up a lot more often
hi balders
ye kaede + m.reisa is enough to stabalize, op at 106
a wild girl appears
eventually I will have to ue40 himari
at one point
why not give her 4 star to uncap bond
but not now right...
and ue40 her when needed
then why dont u just ue40 her now lol
uhh

dekai
Kayede peav
4 star is an immediate need
while ue40 is not
My kaede is poverty
present value of money
ssg whelgrith
Waiting on bounty to max her basic
Imagine not farming millennium bounties
she has been like this for a whole year now lmao

Oh my dako is WORSE
im very ready
What's with the cursed gear tiers?
'
I already have enough mill
How many is that
All 180 books
i don't use her much beside set
Not good enough
I meab even wirh rhay
Bump that up to 300
free
D. Ako at 3* has risky HP
Rest of my mill are already built
speaking of 4* bond uncaps, it's been 3.5 months 
Well the relevant ones
You've seen me struggle with D. Ako glassiness 
pls spook me pls
:D

oh wait ye the next bp will be on fest too
Cooked
Always on fest
Me with my like 100 b20 capped students
btw I asked earlier but didn't get an answre but I am still very curious
it pains me to see them stuck at b20 still
is it confirmed archive banner getting an update during 5.5th?
No
No
since someone was talking about 2nd wave archive or something
I still have b10 2* welfares lol
I didn't make it up but someone was talking about it
but it is phrase it in a way like he is excited for the second wave archive because saori
not gonna name drop
lol so free
I wish for a 2md wave of archive drop too but I know that is super copium
is shig in it 
No lmao

Oh wait
guh
Until 2nd?
The funny thing is, even tho I sti have all 230 tickets I don’t think there’s many I’d pull from year 2 students anyway
Who knows
If its until 2nd fest
Maybe saki
yeah on the update 
But that’s about it
Shiggy will be there but again super cope
What would shiggy even be used for

Because she's Shigure?
If you’re done with the purple coin units this is like the first best use of purples tbh




















