💬gameplay-discussion

[quiet raft]

[pure vessel]

with this grail catalyst I summon joe

[spice basin]

Yup that's the second time I saw that here in gpd

[summer dew]

we tried to summon you earlier mashpit

[astral fern]

What the

Joe explain

[summer dew]

#💬gameplay-discussion message

[pure vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1425745099685499011/7ce58a6b18e3e906dcd6514006fa6b603f43c83dbe7cfbd3f7f4f593920ff71e.gif

we love mari

man

[astral fern]

She do be very cute

[pure vessel]

I'm still peeved over the fact they cut nunny event in half

[pallid inlet]

I’m not skipping her this time

[summer dew]

this time

[pure vessel]

and it just happened to be during when I'm traveling

[pallid inlet]

I didn’t know back then

[pure vessel]

and I won't be able to download the event right away

so I'm gonna miss like half of it

[torn thorn]

I might have to download on hotel WiFi

wait

Is maint tonight?

or

No today’s only Saturday

[untold tusk]

I currently am at 84K pyroxenes now I assume that is enough though as always I not too knowledgeable about mathematic
Perhaps could I get slightly more than that before the next banner..............?

[summer dew]

tune in for the jp live stream in 1.5 days

no one knows what will come but we are expecting some new limiteds possibly

could be just the usual tho

[untold tusk]

I not awake that time
I decide if I like the spring limited students after seeing the stream though yes

[frozen birch]

Oh right this

Should be finally a time when I buy monthlies

[idle rampart]

sasuga

becoming kaiju

[frozen birch]

That’ll help pad my pyroxene refreshes next week cause straight pyroxene is never worth

[summer dew]

yeah. and if it is indeed limiteds, there are often special pakeji there too. so for now, just wait for the news and hold

[frozen birch]

There’s no special packs with idol rerun I imagine

[summer dew]

she plays in jp

[frozen birch]

Yeah I’m curious about what JP is gonna reveal on Sunday

[untold tusk]

I ready to skip the banner if I not like the new students / alts
I buy a 6600 x3 the next month regardless what will happen

[summer dew]

idk if we ever had special pakeji on reruns..?

[polar orbit]

Pande event

That's my prediction

[frozen birch]

Yeah it would at least be nice for the fact that they’re scrapping a week

[quiet raft]

I never got the Mari love train

I guess people just see her cute

[polar orbit]

Car

[quiet raft]

what abour vroom vroom?

[polar orbit]

Unlucky

[frozen birch]

Yeah it’s a cope but anyways

I’ll buy monthlies when I get home

Buying them mid month means less value I imagine but

Might as well

[frail glen]

it's based on days

not the month you are in

[frozen birch]

Oh good, whew

[quiet raft]

Don't they last 30 days despite being bought at mid?

[frail glen]

buying monthly give you 30 days benefit

[quiet raft]

it would be idiotic to make them truly monthly

[frail glen]

ye

imagine buying on in feburary

[frozen birch]

Suppose so, I’m used to that kinda move

[orchid axle]

Sawkko

[quiet raft]

subscriptions, sure

Sacckko

[orchid axle]

I'm just bored

[quiet raft]

I'm having the comfiest time of my life

[frozen birch]

Well wish me luck for UE60 IMine

[patent vault]

Its so hard competing with true dinosaurs 🦖 🦖 🦖

[orchid axle]

k-kaiju...

[untold tusk]

She is not a banner student what kind of luck do you even need

[orchid axle]

Sawkko

[summer dew]

figure of speech, in this case

[frozen birch]

Figure of speech ye cause

Gotta burn so much AP and

I’m employed so I don’t have a consistent time I can burn AP at

[orchid axle]

Employment final boss

[frozen birch]

Just debating if I buy the eleph choice packs too

[polar orbit]

Don't forget you get like 21 from immort or something

[frozen birch]

Cause 200 doesn’t get a 3* OShig

To UE40

Not even close

[frozen birch]

Whenever that happens next year and a half

I already made a promise

I would UE60 her on rerun

[polar orbit]

Fair

[frozen birch]

So I just gotta lock in

[polar orbit]

Ue70 progress

[frozen birch]

Suppose so

UE70 IMine would be done with EPs

Side note

They really need to increase EP gains already

Cause unless you whel

[orchid axle]

2x ep

[frozen birch]

Never cap them

[orchid axle]

[frozen birch]

Whenever player exp x2 happens

It should double EPs for max lvls

Since Ofc non maxed lvl players can’t use the EP shop

Cause they got none

[pure vessel]

beautiful orange car

https://tenor.com/view/iochi-mari-iochi-mari-skill-issue-skill-issue-meme-blue-archive-gif-2846881822550298880

[orchid axle]

Car

[polar orbit]

I expect a permit rework at some point, but who knows when. Probably not any time soon

But one day

[untold tusk]

I like Mari
I prefer Sakurako slightly more

[orchid axle]

Skipping imari

[pure vessel]

nunny love

[untold tusk]

I already got both Idols

[orchid axle]

It was fun to have ue40 imari on debut

[frail glen]

anyone pulling kaho

[untold tusk]

I read at that time there was no 100 elephs when get pickup

[marble gust]

wait

i completely forgo u get free 4* even for reruns now

[olive light]

Koharu fiending for dem naughty books

[marble gust]

so free ue30 imari for me

💀

[frozen birch]

Perhaps. Anyways I’ll start stocking monthlies and refresh pyroxene now

[frail glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1485156131402678332/1485155829970636882.webp

you sure will you get 2 copies though?

[marble gust]

i bought ep shop last 8 months

[frail glen]

tf

planning ahead?

whale

[frozen birch]

Still torn if I should buy those eleph choice packs

[marble gust]

literally eternal brick if i dont pull her

if you didnt have kisaki and shes sold in ep

[frozen birch]

Cause it’s not really worth to get OShig up too high if she’s not her usable

[marble gust]

ofc youd buy her

[frozen birch]

UE40 state

Cause I don’t think she can be used before then

Heals too little

[idle rampart]

i'm planning to pull isakurako for greg

[marble gust]

oshig scales a bit worse than mreisa but ue30 is kinda fine

cus of her basic

[frozen birch]

Also a real benefit is she can’t be blown up early

But only for some cases

[idle rampart]

mreisa positioning will effect as well

[orchid axle]

Paam paaaam papapapammm

[frozen birch]

Also yeah you can place OShig inside cover

When I was doing Hiero with MReisa the random cover causing her to drift when I tried to place her quick

Was not fun

[orchid axle]

Loud reisa

[idle rampart]

if you do luna krkg with mreisa you know that you can't place mreisa on random

[orchid axle]

[idle rampart]

yea

[frozen birch]

Ye otherwise MReisa gets nuked early

Like from ATG

[tall glacier]

Hanako moved, time to reset

[idle rampart]

mreisa getting nuked is from eyes

she can survive atg fine

as long as she didn't got nearby eyes

or getting hit by krkg dash attack

[orchid axle]

Mreisa dies from eyes?

[tall glacier]

Nah

[frozen birch]

But I’ll sit on the eleph packs a bit

[idle rampart]

she still got the compulsion

[frozen birch]

It’s also cause

If I get the limited time tenpull tickets

Then imma toss them at idols atp

Just to get some ligma insurance last resort for IMine

[idle rampart]

how many ligma you have rn

[frozen birch]

Only like 248

[idle rampart]

well that make sense

[frozen birch]

Had more then it was used on UE40 MReisa

Lemme check how much eleph I can generally get

20 for 20 ligma at first, then 40 for 20, 60 for 20…

Wait other way around kek

20 eleph for 20 ligma, then 20 eleph for 40 ligma and so on

So I can get like 40, 60, 80 total worst case

Alright that’ll do

That means

[marble gust]

how many imine elephs are getting sold in shop again

[frozen birch]

I only need to farm past UE50 to 120 eleph

[frozen birch]

I’m just operating off all of that getting me to UE40 only

Then working from that as a baseline

[marble gust]

need 202 for ue40

[frozen birch]

I’m at UE30 already so I have a better base

[gritty laurel]

is she bad when below ue40

i can get to hoarding on the day before if the farming will help out

[marble gust]

not at all

aim for like ue30 ig

[gritty laurel]

ue30 should be doable

i think

[frozen birch]

She really doesn’t need much invest

I’m only doing it cause

points to name

[gritty laurel]

understandable.

[frozen birch]

IMine is serviceable in the one raid she’s used in

At 2* lol

Like 2*, lvl 60

[gritty laurel]

level 60??

hm

i gotta check her kit when she comes out

[frozen birch]

Yeah cause she just needs to tank

[marble gust]

i did ins with like lvl 50 1111

[frozen birch]

Between her sub doing nothing

[marble gust]

its braindead

[frozen birch]

And whatnot

Yeah it’s just eh

[gritty laurel]

[frozen birch]

Case in point

[marble gust]

whale

[frozen birch]

Indeed

[quiet raft]

I like more Sakurako on my end,
that does not mean I do not like Mari either.

Mine mogs them in the end

[frozen birch]

Mine~

[untold tusk]

I only got to 4* 60/120 Idol Mine when that event happened
That is enough for Torment?

[frozen birch]

torment...what

Geb?

She works on lunatic at 3* so you're more than fine lol

[untold tusk]

Torment Geburah and what other raid Idol Mine brought to

[frozen birch]

Mine generally doesnt die, the rest of your team is more likely to atp

[idle rampart]

https://fxtwitter.com/01samgong/status/2045351836283290056

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[untold tusk]

Why would rest of team not survive does Geburah get a lot more attack on Torment compared to Insane

[idle rampart]

imine won't die at all in geburah lmao

[pallid inlet]

Aoe atks hit hard

[stray sapphire]

It does, actually. 3* without the heater buff may not survive in phase 2

[tender eagle]

Geburah gives a ton of damage resists. The only way your tank is dying is if they're blue armor or you just don't do mechanics

[stray sapphire]

Though 4* I.Mine is enough even for Lunatic

[frozen birch]

anyways

[pallid inlet]

Or your tank is a fraud

[frozen birch]

monthlies are bought

bought my monthlies now i can actually do daily scrimms lol

[untold tusk]

Even though students resist the blue attacks there?

[frozen birch]

cause no AP cost

[pallid inlet]

Yeah

[idle rampart]

just heal your team

[pallid inlet]

Heater buff

Damage resistance

[pure vessel]

fuuuu

I need to still like

log in for the rewards

[pallid inlet]

Yeah

Daily

[pure vessel]

I wish there was a way to predownload the event the week before

[pallid inlet]

True

[pure vessel]

because I don't think I'll have the bandwidth to download it mid trip

[halcyon latch]

just download some bandwidth ahead of time and use it later

[marble gust]

[pure vessel]

true

[gleaming wren]

download more ram

[halcyon latch]

are you going to go cave diving where you are out of cell tower range or something?

[pure vessel]

mari cave diving

[old rose]

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[halcyon latch]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEoHfYbawAAF2h5.webp

[idle rampart]

no available wifi?

[pure vessel]

poor quality/bandwidth

no cell data

[marble gust]

@ mods scam

[lament gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1494258385175187559/YES_example_2026-01-03_2007442502547320874.gif

[vocal iron]

coulda been better i guess

[candid gust]

easy r1 wtf

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981545444448542800/1424792339167051848/attachment.gif

[wide basin]

@mods

[candid gust]

<@&897693925127630909>

oh sorry

fuck

[marble gust]

LOL

bye peav

[candid gust]

yeah bye

shitttttt sorry mods

[compact sparrow]

[candid gust]

didn't know that also works

[steep vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

smh peav

[candid gust]

yeah mobile sucks ik ik

🥀

[compact sparrow]

[candid gust]

it didn't show the register of the tag unlike pc

[ancient star]

RIP peav

[frail glen]

what?

let me try

[compact sparrow]

[frail glen]

@ peav

[candid gust]

i typed normal m and it is still registered

lmao

[frail glen]

did you forget to add a space or something

[candid gust]

even without uhhh fully type it or tap on it

[astral fern]

Peav gets banned, and then Idol Peav will replace him

[candid gust]

shut

[wide basin]

[candid gust]

it's all camille's fault

that's how you guys called me idol

[astral fern]

It's your true name wdym fam

[candid gust]

yeah it is fine i can gtfo of here :D

[frail glen]

maybe the real

[candid gust]

guess +1 reason not to mess with sth without knowing

[frail glen]

idk

[astral fern]

Me still a clubless player so...

Can't really leave

[frail glen]

but curiosity is the primary driver for human evolution

you should try @ m again

maybe you will get a different result

[astral fern]

And then there are reprocussions for said curiosity and evolution

[candid gust]

nah this time imma test on another server of mine

[frail glen]

another server of yours?

wtf?

peav is secretly CEO of nexon?

[candid gust]

I have 2 emoji servers

🦖

[astral fern]

🦖

[frail glen]

can I steal your emote

[candid gust]

no

[frail glen]

boooooo

[tall glacier]

I only got r3

[candid gust]

well yeah i typed this and it still registered even if i don't touch it

[frail glen]

click on defense formation for free pyrox

[candid gust]

next?

[frail glen]

[astral fern]

I hate this season so much

[candid gust]

yeah even with normal m it still works

lmao

[astral fern]

I can't even be safe with t100

[candid gust]

dumbass feature

🥀

[frail glen]

how come you didn't @ MOF4

does it prioritize role?

[candid gust]

YES IT DOES

that was unexpected

[frail glen]

dw peav

if you get banned

[candid gust]

i thought we would need to type the exact name of the role to automatically registered

but no

[frail glen]

you will be forever remembered

[candid gust]

[candid gust]

me f2pbtw

[frail glen]

pvp warlords

[candid gust]

easy season my ass

it's bloody hell

[frozen birch]

lol

[astral fern]

It's not

[frozen birch]

yeah ppl are able to break the d3 SHanako comp more often than I thought

[astral fern]

I can't even enter t50

[frozen birch]

im r7 today

[astral fern]

My shanako always dies while their always lives

[candid gust]

try braindead comp ig

[astral fern]

Maybe I should invest into saki

[frail glen]

you did your best

it's b neru

[astral fern]

Or tsurugi

[candid gust]

works most of the time

been investing ( CREDITS ) on tsurugi for the (PVP) love.

[frozen birch]

Close one here

i like this season only for some funnier counters compared to last season

[ancient star]

Last season was garbage

This one is, honestly fun

[astral fern]

At least I kept t1 few times so it was fine

[ancient star]

There's just so much that works

[astral fern]

This season is hot ass

[candid gust]

Not as garbage as s8

[ancient star]

S8 was pretty boring I'd say

[frozen birch]

mostly cause of the sheer stall that can happen

[candid gust]

i got a sweaty season

[frail glen]

should I 4 star himari

[frozen birch]

im looking forward to DMichiru which will be huge

[frail glen]

she keeps showing up

[candid gust]

along with sweaty bracket

[frail glen]

already at b20 cap

[candid gust]

🥀 🥀

[candid gust]

you ue40 instead and say oopsie, mistake

[ancient star]

UE60*

[frail glen]

I am broke on eligma though

and imari needs ue40

arrghhh

[ancient star]

Did you farm some I.Mari elephs before hand?

[frail glen]

planning?

hahahaahhaahahaahaha

that's funny

the thing is

I think I just vibe EP without planning

okay tbf

I need other more immediate things with EP

didn't have a chance for Imari

[ancient star]

I have like 70

[astral fern]

1500 elephs here

[ancient star]

Good thing is I.Mari will be free 4*s

[frail glen]

oh crap

imari ue40 actually necessary huh

because it improves healing

guh

[frozen birch]

yeah its big for healing output

[pure vessel]

imari ue60 must have

because she's a good girl

who deserves it

[cunning stone]

Is Juri even remotely a viable substitution for Yakumo?

[tall glacier]

[cunning stone]

I'm coping

[frozen birch]

massive cope cause doesnt inflict CC

[old rose]

in kaiten?

no

in pvp? no

in the event challenge? yea

[cunning stone]

Ehh I'll just take the hit, Idol banner too close

[old rose]

the only thing you'll really need her for is luna kaiten

i've heard people say she was overhyped for pvp

[cunning stone]

Really? lol

[old rose]

yee

[lyric hatch]

Not even close since her range on her ex is 2 times smaller than yakumo

[carmine gale]

Someone try a qtomoe on me

[strange ridge]

Day 5...

[strange ridge]

[cunning stone]

Ahh, damn

[marble gust]

and yakumo has cc

[hallow plank]

Occasionally she can enable some fantastic teamwork.
Yakumo to group everybody.
C. Shiroko to debuff everybody.
S. Hanako to spray everybody.
「計算通り、完璧～♪」

[strange ridge]

They should give Juri a technical buff alongside a buff too

[tall glacier]

I had an interesting battle where toki lined up 2 tanks and hanako in a shot

[marble gust]

how would they sell yakumo if so

[frozen birch]

a little. she is good for a lot of offense but rn

the big oof is when you run Yakumo you either

forego healing or forego a damage special

[cunning stone]

Yeah I saw her stun that's why I was coping hella

[frozen birch]

cause there arent any striker healers that replace

and then ofc by giving up your damage special it could lead to other problems

[marble gust]

yakumo is ur buffer since kaiten receive more dmg when cc

[frozen birch]

Yakumo is a good hard counter vs any comp that uses Shun tho

cause Yakumo+Tsubaki+Hibiki means youre guaranteed to kill enemy Shun before any problems

[cunning stone]

Ye

[frozen birch]

ofc Yakumo's benefit to pvp niche as well is

she doesnt need any high invest generally

just get her stun chance high and easy

[carmine gale]

We can free up tsubaki for another slot unit as yakumo already doing the stun?

[candid gust]

r1 defending

[cunning stone]

MxMx would be fine right?

[carmine gale]

Nice. I also r1 right now

[shell tree]

Wait a minute… the student who says this voice line isn’t in your team!

[shell tree]

[magic reef]

her star co-special isnt here yet

[frozen birch]

IMine doesnt need anything really

[cunning stone]

Oh I was talking about Yakumo unless you were talking about something else

[shell tree]

this is what yakumo needs

[hallow plank]

(She was the guest commentator.)

[shell tree]

(So it’s not Shinon, huh)

[candid gust]

and all i need is a yuuka, a chinatsu and a hibiki~

[shell tree]

istg as soon as I raise those, I’ll lose every attack

I’m sure it’s a scam!

[candid gust]

[shell tree]

I’m uhhh sure that person’s just a fraud

[candid gust]

it's fine i also win a mreisa one

pfftt

not that hard

[shell tree]

none of my yuuka skills are maxed. None of my chinatsu skills are maxed

I’m afraid I’ll have to skip them

[steady prairie]

wdym you don't have yuuka basic maxed

vinny

[marble gust]

peroro in a pinch

[old rose]

do we have maint duration yet

[shell tree]

[tall glacier]

Yeah, 3h

[cerulean spade]

lol still pathetic compensations for 7 days cutoff

[tall glacier]

Sometimes they do compensate for speed ups, separate from maint tho

[frozen birch]

im hoping i can buy enough refresh

to get IMine UE60

[cerulean spade]

Yeah very pathetic this time

Wdym only 350AP/day
No points for idol mine redeem

Do the math and you know how pathetic it is

[marble gust]

lmao who put the kok emote

[polar orbit]

someone based

[tall glacier]

Oh i didn't realise she was pointing up this time

[marble gust]

they edited her hand

was pointing right i think

or mandela effect

[cerulean spade]

60+ idol mine eleph loss
420 pyro for monthly pass buyers

[tall glacier]

Ye this is what i rmb

[shell tree]

this is terrible

wtf jp got 2 weeks, right??

[cerulean spade]

Yes
We got 1 week cutoff

[shell tree]

we should demand eleph compensation

[cerulean spade]

For an event with eleph

[sonic crater]

Devs truly not playing their own game

[shell tree]

ball knowledge = 0

[sonic crater]

True .....

[dim frigate]

Needs more trinity mats

[cerulean spade]

Instead of cutting this crap event
They chose a good event to cutoff instead
How pathetic nexon is rn

[frozen birch]

right 450 points per eleph instead of 300

on a halved duration event

and only one 25% bonus unit btw

so max event points is 82 per 20 AP

[dim frigate]

Acceleration does not wait for idols

[frozen birch]

imma still try to get UE60 IMine but its gonna be wild

anyways this is when acceleration really just starts to hurt but again

its supposed to

its supposed to f players over, end of story

[cerulean spade]

No prob with accel
If the compensations are good

[frozen birch]

cause less time to do everything, more you're pressured to spend

[cerulean spade]

Not with this dogwater comps

[dim frigate]

Also isn’t this the JP run, hasn’t hit global yet

[old rose]

can't really be acceled tho

we always accel 2 weeks at a time

cuz that's skipping one maint

so unless you think they're also accelerating something else here we will still have that event for 2 weeks

[cerulean spade]

First time is 2 Weeks
Then revisit = 1 week
If they proceed to go with it

[idle rampart]

how to 3* this

[marble gust]

jeez 124 chok is still quite expensive

[frozen birch]

no pyroxene and no event points, or IMine eleph is the big kicker i suppose

daily event currency tho means imma skip shop entirely for IMine then

[tall glacier]

[cerulean spade]

Time to file complaint letter then

[frozen birch]

imma get UE60 IMine in spite of it lol

[cerulean spade]

Nexon math = karin level

[frozen birch]

im just glad they dont intend to make global and JP fully in sync

[old rose]

can't do f124 blue set

because i'm missing kok

[tall glacier]

Im missing msuzu and ritsu

[west perch]

I'm missing kei

[idle rampart]

same

[marble gust]

hope ue40 baris can do like f118 chok

[idle rampart]

i'll get her on her debut

[west perch]

I'm getting ue60 b50+40+40 and slaccing 118

[stable tulip]

wdym idols is being shortened to 1 week

what in the bullshit is this

[round kayak]

welcome to accel

you didnt ask for it but its fucking happening

[stable tulip]

gonna cancel my monthly because of this

[little timber]

Eh, guess we rush the quest and skip story then

[pallid inlet]

Headpat time

[echo oar]

27 hours till strim

[round kayak]

just ran the calcs and while we lose a sht ton on idols event if you hoard the AP "compensation" for dress ninjas thats about 2.4k more for the event

[pallid inlet]

Huh

[round kayak]

JP stream

[pallid inlet]

Isn’t it 3

[round kayak]

nah still tomorrow

#📺jp-livestream

[pallid inlet]

Oh

[echo oar]

you spooked me for a minute

[pallid inlet]

I forgor

[stable tulip]

I'll probably leave imine at 2 stars or something I need the event shop items so I don't have a way to prioritize her

[marble gust]

oh wait its tmr

so soon

[stable tulip]

was I supposed to clear my ap tonight?

[patent vault]

What is
Tomorrow

Oh livestream

[stable tulip]

eh just in case I'm dead wrong I'll keep 130 AP

[gleaming wren]

it's all the same shit nothing fucking works

[quartz remnant]

Why is your shun facing their dps

[gleaming wren]

because that's the angle where hanako doesn't hit her

otherwise shanako just kills her at the start

[quartz remnant]

Apparently not judging from the damage

[gleaming wren]

but it didn't matter because tsubaki made her get into hibikis range

[quartz remnant]

Just put tsubaki on the other side
Also mreisa isn’t good for attacking

She’s not gonna outheal their dps
It’s 5x hp, not healing

[gleaming wren]

was only barely able to win this for top 100

even then it felt like a kick in the balls

[lyric hatch]

A1 shiroko terror with d2 s hanako lol

Use tsurugi

[gleaming wren]

lvl20

well in any case shanako didn't hit shiroko the whole fight

[lyric hatch]

Then you cant really complain about losing in pvp if you cant invest in an important pvp unit

[gleaming wren]

yeah shut up there's people who don't use tsurugi at all

[lyric hatch]

And they dont make it above top 20

[quartz remnant]

Because they use bneru
You don’t have that too

[gleaming wren]

im even struggling to make it top 100

it's not even top 20

or 30

fucking 100

and they make it to 3-10 mind you

[quartz remnant]

You have little to no shanako counters
It’s expected tbh

[lyric hatch]

If you want to do well this season you need to build counters and learn how to counter

[gleaming wren]

this is what the top 10 looks like anyway

[lyric hatch]

You cant just throw random teams on attack and expect rng to carry you like last season

All of them could be countered

[quartz remnant]

Not hiding their yakumo huh
My mafia decided to hide it until the banner ends

Impatient

[marble gust]

how tf u hide specials

oh

lol

[gleaming wren]

what about my teams is random

[dusky terrace]

damn top 10 full of yakumo

[gleaming wren]

you seem to think i put no thought into it

[lyric hatch]

Randomly placing s hanako around and running shiroko terror

[quartz remnant]

Most reliable yakumo counters requires 750/850

[lyric hatch]

And shun

[quartz remnant]

Have fun with that ig

[lyric hatch]

Like why is your shun face tanking their dps

[gleaming wren]

i just went for this advice

[young lotus]

[lyric hatch]

If tsubaki is on d1 and s hanako on d4 you should be placing shun on a1

[quartz remnant]

And have either bneru/tsurugi in a4 to break both d4 and d3 cover

[lyric hatch]

You need a tank on a2

Otherwise shun will take cover

[quartz remnant]

Why is your tsubaki in a3…

[lyric hatch]

Thats just game knowledge and skill issue

[gleaming wren]

i saw someone else running it like that

[quartz remnant]

I mean you are copying from rank 100~
What are you expecting

[little timber]

Position matters

[quartz remnant]

Ofc your shun gets hit by shanako if tsubaki uses her ex

[west perch]

I just put kanoe in front of wherever shanako is

that's the extent of my strategy

[quartz remnant]

kanoe is a bit squishy
I usually put her on the weak side

[west perch]

no idea where what side is weak

[quartz remnant]

The side not facing shanako

Smth like this

[west perch]

if your strat requires changing team members depending on what you're attacking, you've already lost me

[steady prairie]

[quartz remnant]

I thought everyone who take pvp seriously does that

[steady prairie]

iwak mreisa is weird

[west perch]

yeah but I don't

[gleaming wren]

what's your rank

[quartz remnant]

Understandable

[pallid inlet]

Iwak just isn’t the best pick imo

[west perch]

huh did I not make it clear enough that I aim to get < 2 pvp matches a day

right now I'm quite ahead of that goal unfortunately

[quartz remnant]

Me?

[gleaming wren]

aether

just to give you an example

just to give you another one of why I chose that team before

[tropic sundial]

my bracket is d1 tsubaki meta rn and i have the solve

def: tsubaki miyako shanako eimi , fish hibiki

stuff like that

[west perch]

yeah I'm ahead by around 40 days, damn

2.099 pvp matches a day

we're getting there

[round kayak]

my def is just like this and it works pretty well

[tropic sundial]

aether what about just skipping every battle

[pallid inlet]

My def team is something

[tropic sundial]

and doing other tasks when your next attack isnt available yet

[quartz remnant]

You need ue30 kanoe minimum to bait shun

[west perch]

what about seeing that you're t100, claiming and then ignoring pvp

[lyric hatch]

https://youtu.be/NwmfhyHxVHc?si=INizxgegsikkNiKa

[quartz remnant]

Pretty sure 4* isn’t enough

[worldly sun]

hibik doko

[tropic sundial]

that works ig

[worldly sun]

also thats almost mine but i have eimi kanoe swapped (and use hibiki)

[round kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-don't-think-i-will-cap-avengers-marvel-gif-6420739801263939210

[worldly sun]

nez are you a whel pulling dmich

[pallid inlet]

He pulled yakumo

[worldly sun]

or skipping

[round kayak]

skip....

[frail glen]

chat

juri or hifumi

[odd geyser]

[frail glen]

for wakaboat p1

earlier when I asked people said hifumi since she farmable

[tropic sundial]

i think i have something with higher winrate

[frail glen]

but I prob will never touch her hard farm for elephs

[tropic sundial]

using bneru

[round kayak]

think its just a matter of which shanako dies first

[tropic sundial]

and sumire

[round kayak]

well shun included

[tropic sundial]

generally the positions are the same

[worldly sun]

i lowk kinda want her to do better in pvp but can't really afford

[pallid inlet]

Depends on your strategy

[lyric hatch]

I mean that team at 94% wr

[pallid inlet]

Juri can’t solo cc requirement

[lyric hatch]

52 attacks 49 wins

[tropic sundial]

i see

[frail glen]

I have everyone else raised for both comps
I have a ue40 C kotama

[round kayak]

I have no idea what happened here

[worldly sun]

surely i just get her in 10

[tropic sundial]

if mine starts failing ill copy that

[pallid inlet]

Whale

[frail glen]

it's more of a matter like, who willl see more uses outside of wakaboat

[worldly sun]

having kanoe has been a huge help this season ngl

[quartz remnant]

D3 shanako can hit a2-4
Expected

[worldly sun]

so many free wins vs shuns

[tropic sundial]

wait my solve is litearlly form this channel lmao

[pallid inlet]

Juri could in theory be used whenever you need a red tank I think

[frail glen]

[tropic sundial]

thast where i found my
shun sumire eimi bneru counter

same channel

[frail glen]

is there a place red tank is in high deman

[round kayak]

I do plan making her UE 30 but thats like for peroro next months

[tropic sundial]

bneru is more expensive so i dont want to show my bracket a cheaper solve

[frail glen]

cause Haruka also red tank

[worldly sun]

only 4* smh

[lyric hatch]

Yea kinda the same idea there

[pallid inlet]

Binah

[frail glen]

and mine

[worldly sun]

unfortunaly her ue40 aint that great

[tropic sundial]

yeah

[worldly sun]

otherwise i would probably make her there

[tropic sundial]

bneru directly hits shanako

[quartz remnant]

He had only 1 tank
Pretty sure ur shanako sprayed all their dps before it died

[tropic sundial]

and sumire will oneshot shanako aswell

homu channel is really good

[worldly sun]

also kanoe needs ue30 to properly bait shun btw

otherwise shana has higher attack after water buff

[pallid inlet]

Kaiten too if that counts

[round kayak]

wait really

[worldly sun]

which is why shun can sometimes aim at shana even with kanoe

[round kayak]

I havent seen a shun in awhile

[tropic sundial]

whale pvp tactics

[lyric hatch]

He has this spreadsheet if you wanna check out:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KhFUGroU0-_gIRITge5sHIsx42PACLl7li6FUAZmOw/edit?usp=drivesdk

[quartz remnant]

Isn’t kanoe close to human rights

[tropic sundial]

thx

[pallid inlet]

Whale

[marble gust]

nah not too close yet

[round kayak]

300 ligma for kanoe UE 30 but damm Im broke for now

[quartz remnant]

Not the most accurate one but there’s almost every defense listed there

[worldly sun]

4* kanoe is 10k atk, ue30 is 12.8k
max shana has 9k atk without water but 11k with

so if only 4* kanoe shana has higher attack once she gets a gauge

so can fall apart a bit if shana card is later in cycle

[round kayak]

so that why I lose on some shun atks huh

[pallid inlet]

Might e

[round kayak]

alright ill add that on the list but only after kaiten GA

[lyric hatch]

I think ik what youre talking about but that other is a bit too laggy to use on my phone

So i just use this one

[worldly sun]

also if using tsurugi she baits without ex for a non water shana but needs ex up to bait a wet shana

[gleaming wren]

Should I just use this defense or swap shiroko for Yakumo then

[worldly sun]

10k without ex and 13k with

[round kayak]

when you think about it is UE 30 kanoe even needed for 40.122 GA anymore cause last time on 40.067 TA it was pretty essential or she'll be stealing chare's shield which fucks her up when the laser hits

anyone got another clip on 40.122 with chare?

[pallid inlet]

Does it still use that strategy

[quartz remnant]

Pretty sure no

[round kayak]

with kei + chare I think

I see kanoe

[worldly sun]

ill let you keep her at 4* as long as your borrow mine

[quartz remnant]

We have kei now and baiting shield shouldn’t be a problem anymore

[worldly sun]

[quartz remnant]

Cost regen

[steady prairie]

You need ue60 now

[pallid inlet]

Ssg kaijustark

[steady prairie]

the strat is to not cast kanoe ex

afaik

so hf with that

zzzz

[quartz remnant]

Nah that’s s9 stuff for killing kuroko in 2 shot

[round kayak]

wallai...

[opaque dagger]

Is that the 40.167 baldshino

[pallid inlet]

The what now

[round kayak]

wtf is 40.167

[opaque dagger]

Wait uh, oops

[polar orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1485156131402678332/1485155829970636882.webp

[opaque dagger]

I am mixing up the numbers, my bad

[pallid inlet]

Typing

[quartz remnant]

There’s 4012 yellow tho

Have fun

[opaque dagger]

That one needs UE60 Hasumi Swimsuit lmao

[pallid inlet]

Losing hair

[gleaming wren]

whatever, I'll try this and wake-up at rank 300 tomorrow

[pallid inlet]

Will you do it

[opaque dagger]

I don't have enough Ligma to UE60

[pallid inlet]

Wow

[opaque dagger]

I can only do UE50

[pallid inlet]

Where did it all go

[quartz remnant]

At least you can borrow her

[opaque dagger]

I need to borrow Kisaki

[tropic sundial]

oh this is interesting

[quartz remnant]

You are not going to pull her?

[west perch]

Oh? It doesn't reqs triple bond?

[pallid inlet]

I’m asking the person I’m borrowing from

[opaque dagger]

No, but iirc you need the UE60

[west perch]

weird

[quartz remnant]

I mean it’s just more or less crits required

[pallid inlet]

Never building her

[quartz remnant]

Like 4005 hiero is also possible with borrowed toki

[opaque dagger]

I have 17k Pyros right now

[west perch]

oh yeah she has self cdmg buff

[quartz remnant]

It’s just more or less comfy

[round kayak]

stark you lied to me!!!!!

[pallid inlet]

Ssg kaijustark

[steady prairie]

not sure about 120, but for 116 you can do this

[quartz remnant]

Besides who would prepare a b150 for a GA

[pallid inlet]

Is atsuko necessary on a PvP team if running hibiki saki specials

[polar orbit]

no

[pallid inlet]

This is something

[sturdy scarab]

There's no such thing as necessary, just depends on who you're facing and the bracket you're in

Some atchuko comps are pretty annoying for me, some are easy to crack

[quartz remnant]

Just keep your shanako alive and you’re good
No need to run atsuko unless you attack with 4 tanks

[opaque dagger]

Kaiten Field Red Ins 1 EX

[quartz remnant]

Which student

[sturdy scarab]

Realistically, unless your atsuko is already built from a previous raid it's not worth building her just for a season of pvp

[quartz remnant]

You can decide after seeing what s11 is

rn just put it on hold

[gleaming wren]

awesome

[pallid inlet]

Where shanako

[sturdy scarab]

[tall glacier]

😟

[quartz remnant]

Depends on the defense

[pallid inlet]

That’s not what I meant

[quartz remnant]

Oh you meant that

[pallid inlet]

[quartz remnant]

You can uhh

[pallid inlet]

In boshi we trust

[opaque dagger]

He does not have Hanako Swimsuit

[sturdy scarab]

Hanako is just generically good for blind attacks

[quartz remnant]

Cope with shun

[pallid inlet]

Boshi is the way

[tall glacier]

Boshi is pretty good ngl

[sturdy scarab]

Consider making a pvp sheet so you never have to blind attack

[pallid inlet]

Some success with boshi

[opaque dagger]

Last time I did that, enemy Neru School got pushed backwards by Reisa Magic and went out of range

[lyric hatch]

Just solo yuuka cheese for blind attacks lol

[sturdy scarab]

Uhh

[pallid inlet]

True

[sturdy scarab]

What brackets are yall in that have uneru on def

[worldly sun]

wait why don't you have her, i thought you were around for rio fest

[sturdy scarab]

[worldly sun]

or are you bebe

[quartz remnant]

That only works if shanako dies

[pallid inlet]

Shanako in fever time is scary

[quartz remnant]

Also doesn’t work against saki

[lyric hatch]

Yuuka can out heal s hanako damage

[gleaming wren]

why do ppl even use eimi this season

[lyric hatch]

But saki it is a different story

[pallid inlet]

She doesn’t die

[sturdy scarab]

Eimi has a hard time dying if shanako doesnt die

[worldly sun]

% based self heal and sustains very well

[gleaming wren]

5 seconds in and she's already at the border of dying

[worldly sun]

even if def

[pallid inlet]

Heal scales very well with the 4x hp buff

[worldly sun]

you do have to build her

[sturdy scarab]

Is your eimi maxed?

[worldly sun]

you cant use a lvl 1 eimi

[sturdy scarab]

Def tanks need stats sir

[sturdy scarab]

Uhhh

[opaque dagger]

Imagine hitting any of the DPS

[pallid inlet]

That’s something

[sturdy scarab]

What are you fighting

[worldly sun]

eimi doesnt even die in 5s staring down a toki

she still lives pretty long there

[pallid inlet]

That’s if anyone even runs toki

[worldly sun]

but obv she counters her so shes dead before fever

[echo oar]

sometimes she just eats a hibiki crit and gets low, chalk it up to bad luck

[tall glacier]

She lives like 30s against toki

[gleaming wren]

I've seen her die from half hp to a hibiki

[tall glacier]

Basic takes half health

[sturdy scarab]

just bunny neru down the def

[opaque dagger]

What do I look like, a fossil?

[pallid inlet]

Whale behaviour

[sturdy scarab]

who was the third student there?

[steady prairie]

can't kill dps? let boshi and iwak murder 2 blue tanks

[quartz remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243251684759568494/1493566371697524786/studio_video_1776163986555.mp4?ex=69e40cd4&is=69e2bb54&hm=0c16c540765dc63fb3b93002a25e359eec5779ba3145283116489bd9dab9c4b6&

[sturdy scarab]

i mean fourth

[worldly sun]

you look like a waifu player who would have bunnies (waifu pulls)

[pallid inlet]

Why iwak

[sturdy scarab]

i see double yellow tanks who was the fourth?

cause you might be able to iori that

[opaque dagger]

Imagine having Iori

What is this, 2023?

[sturdy scarab]

[pallid inlet]

Iori s10

[worldly sun]

please farm her

[pallid inlet]

[worldly sun]

seriously assassin

[sturdy scarab]

iori s10 works against yellow tank comps

[opaque dagger]

Tell me pls, when am I using her in raids

[sturdy scarab]

she just gets hard walled by eimi

[pallid inlet]

Counterplay maybe

[tall glacier]

[quartz remnant]

Yellow greg

[sturdy scarab]

when you dont 1pan things down

[pallid inlet]

If iori is positioned well she could easily kill the yellow tank

[worldly sun]

shes good in chesed too

[opaque dagger]

You know, uhhh, I got a Hasumi Swimsuit and I also probably will roll for Yukari Swimsuit on rerun

[worldly sun]

and obv every indoor pvp

[sturdy scarab]

oh right iori maindps yellow greg is meta

[pallid inlet]

Not the same

[sturdy scarab]

[worldly sun]

iori has a lot more uses than shasumi

[echo oar]

can't wait for the next greg ga

[sturdy scarab]

unironically easier than makoto

[tall glacier]

Tsubo taunt can ruin your day huh

[opaque dagger]

Nah, now it should be Yukari Swimsuit main DPS for Greg

[pallid inlet]

Would it be

[tall glacier]

One basic+ex usually works

[quartz remnant]

Actually I have a funnier clip

[worldly sun]

probably not even

iori still does st dmg to like 5 choir

[sturdy scarab]

tsubaki taunt has ruined a surprisingly high amount of my attacks ngl

[tall glacier]

This happened to me yesterday

[gleaming wren]

ill come back tomorrow with new pvp complaints

[worldly sun]

hitting 7 with aoe dmg is probably still less

[gleaming wren]

hope you guys put up with me 🙏

[quartz remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243251684759568494/1493566272460427334/studio_video_1776164032511.mp4?ex=69e40cbc&is=69e2bb3c&hm=8d6ca46754e616762c26201e5ffe6c542011db87c3b52f772527246fcd619f13&

[sturdy scarab]

i never managed to make toki attack work well

my toki is built she just feels bad to use

[pallid inlet]

Maxed iori with buffs can do about 7.5m dmg per ex per minion

[sturdy scarab]

whats the winrate against that comp?

[pallid inlet]

S yukari would do about 6.6m dmg per mob

[quartz remnant]

Let me check

[lament gyro]

Watafak whalezo inwhaling in pelolo

[round kayak]

I dont need to whel, I already have it

[tall glacier]

[quartz remnant]

Not an actual counter, was testing for win rate

[sturdy scarab]

ic

i dont see many shuns in my bracket but i was curious about toki counters

[tall glacier]

I only have one with mixed success

[opaque dagger]

Well that worked, Hanako Swimsuit on Attack has such dogshit positioning no matter which slot you put her in

[worldly sun]

the positioning is bad cos you put her in a3

[opaque dagger]

I've tried all 4 spots

All bad

[worldly sun]

shana on attack is 1/2

[opaque dagger]

She never hits the target I want her to hit

[worldly sun]

also wtf pyuuka

[opaque dagger]

A1, btw

[sturdy scarab]

hmm do you have double yellow tanks to counter that stall?

[quartz remnant]

Would be better if you used shun instead of shanako

[sturdy scarab]

cause you should be outdpsing those two

[opaque dagger]

And Hibiki misses 70% of her Basic against Hanako Swimsuit

[sturdy scarab]

the enemy hibiki does hit harder

[opaque dagger]

Nah, I do a lot of Shun suicide strats, not raising her rn

[echo oar]

I feel that in my soul

[sturdy scarab]

does a1 yuuka not draw the yellow tank to the right so that hanako can splash kuroko?

[shell tree]

hassha- dies

[tropic sundial]

what r we tryna beat

this?

[gleaming wren]

so basically if I run shun a1 i should run tsubaki a4?

[sturdy scarab]

shun a1 loves dying for me, never managed to make it work consistently

[opaque dagger]

I once had this and was like "fuck you Hibiki"

[tropic sundial]

shun a1 dies to hibiki if no one else is lower hp

but her job is to get rid of shanako before that happens

or at least, do meaningful enough damage to shanako

[round kayak]

when you dont have a proper counter that the skip button is better than watching

[tropic sundial]

so someone else can take shanako out

[echo oar]

you should sign that work of art

[gleaming wren]

she never does

4★ 5m77 999

[opaque dagger]

I'm normally too lazy to do art, but when I get a very unique raid clear I put effort into the thumbnail, like my stupid F100 Blue Set clear

[sturdy scarab]

outside of the top 50ish its probably better just to find a relatively consistent attack comp instead of counter comping tbh

[opaque dagger]

If I nobrain Hanako Swimsuit triple tank, I lose 80% of my attacks

Countering is my only consistent way to top 100

[gleaming wren]

i can't find it 🙁

[tropic sundial]

agree

pvp is harder when you are out of top rank

[shell tree]

always sweat for r1

[tropic sundial]

its the truth

[sturdy scarab]

theres just too many people when you start getting to the high ranks

[lament gyro]

Nobrain quad tank + special dps and slacc

[tropic sundial]

pvp gets easier when you fight the same people and can track them

[opaque dagger]

Sponsor me rsc to UE40 Saki then we can talk

[sturdy scarab]

yee

[lament gyro]

I have ue30 saki

[sturdy scarab]

starts with fielding a really hard to beat def so you can stick around at higher ranks

[tropic sundial]

Just copy what defense the top ranks are using

[shell tree]

convert some of your chare elephs to saki elephs

[tropic sundial]

Dont look online to see whats strong

[opaque dagger]

I meant, sponsor me the pakejis for Ligma and artifacts to raise my Saki

[lament gyro]

No!

[tropic sundial]

If a defense is popular in high ranks it means your bracket cant beat it

[lament gyro]

No!

[sturdy scarab]

people started copying this one annoying comp so i eventually figured a consistent enough counter for it tho

[opaque dagger]

You don't keep track of 30 different players' comps?

[tropic sundial]

I record everything

[opaque dagger]

I don't record anything

[lyric hatch]

Just look at your attack history 💀

[opaque dagger]

I just memorize all the names and comps of people I fight regularly

[opaque dagger]

More time spent when I memorize easily

[shell tree]

this is good life advice

[opaque dagger]

But that's just counters for each comp