💬gameplay-discussion

[quiet raft]

aw bike is 1111 🥀

[opaque dagger]

Probably nothing better to use

[summer dew]

chok only 650 def iirc which is at the low end of the spectrum

there is always something better

[quiet raft]

time to clean it up

[opaque dagger]

2 cost Ballista activation

[echo oar]

[opaque dagger]

Also, the Def shred is nice on groggy

[proper oyster]

I don't think a 3* U.Neru will deal enough damage but give your best ig

[opaque dagger]

I would much rather do 3* own DoT + borrow Neru School

Than doing 3* Neru School + borrow DoT

[echo oar]

guh

[opaque dagger]

This is all you need for F99

[echo oar]

idk rio just complicates it a whole lot

[opaque dagger]

Did you forget to dodge ground slam?

[echo oar]

it was so simple before D:

every time

[opaque dagger]

F, I guess go back to Rioless comp

[echo oar]

healing's not keeping up, so maybe I gotta rio imari

[summer dew]

i used ue40 meeka and borrow dot on f74, other team was just random bs

[loud knoll]

@frozen birch i've heard you collect pictures where shun did 1 mil damage, so here is my donation
3* by the way

[quiet raft]

why upgrade ex? all I've seen her do on other hw is activate the ballistae

[echo oar]

okay that was 10M that time

RIGHT I FORGOT MERU DIES

[opaque dagger]

Because you're using her for the Atk Down. Maybe on F74 you don't need EX5, but I was doing F99 with Seia Swimsuit

[opaque dagger]

look at this madness

I am so posting this clear

[ancient star]

There are better units to use to activate ballista than C.Shiroko if you are not using her for attack down

[summer dew]

this hurts youknow

[ancient star]

My F99 clear uses Koharu to activate ballista, for example

[quiet raft]

I do plan on getting her upgraded with ligma in the near future for kaiten and Hovercraft if she gets me the clears

[echo oar]

oh hell yeah we livin boys

[quiet raft]

ah yes, the missiles

[echo oar]

I'm doing your triple seia shield strat haha

and yeah that one is wild

[quiet raft]

iirc them hitting the same student multiplies the damage even higher

[opaque dagger]

Guess I got another F74 video to post

The DoTless challenge

[pastel mortar]

Was maki needed here?

[loud knoll]

what is that f2p?

[opaque dagger]

Honestly? No

[pastel mortar]

Also why is she 4*

[opaque dagger]

4* lv71 T2 gear for low level clear examples

[quiet raft]

wait, where is the dot?

[opaque dagger]

Who needs it

[quiet raft]

[pastel mortar]

Actual valid question what floor is this

[opaque dagger]

74

[pastel mortar]

What boredom does to a man

[loud knoll]

floor 10 solo hasumi

[opaque dagger]

I was suddenly struck by inspiration and was like "what if we just don't bring DoT, is it viable"

Not viable on F75 btw, Chok Dmg Reduction goes from 50% to 80%

[pastel mortar]

Gws

[ancient star]

Floor 74 is imo, really easy and accessible

[summer dew]

It is

[loud knoll]

You can't just spam saori like blue one though. Yellow dots kinda do no damage

[summer dew]

I hate chok but i did it because it's piss easy

[opaque dagger]

Yellow Chok F74 is less accessible than Blue Chok F74 imo

Well, at least with Neru School hyperbuffing, you don't need DoT

Not sure if Mika can pull this off

[summer dew]

Solo cover, no uneru, no rio, no bosh is needed

Only atk down was kotama

Doable

[opaque dagger]

Bro, solo cover no Boshi no Kisaki F99 is doable lmao

Yellow Chok is so easy to bully with Neru School

[pastel mortar]

Read better

[summer dew]

Forget neru and rio and f99

[opaque dagger]

F99 clear for 1 year old Sensei is human rights

[loud knoll]

That can do f106 if I find stronger Meru, which I am not going to do

[summer dew]

Honestly i was throwing bullshit teams and looking into what i can do with Mika and accidentally cleared

My team was like

Looked like i was cooking without a care in the world

Accidental clear

[proper oyster]

What floor was it?

[summer dew]

74

I had lvl50 skirino cover there that broke down on atg breath thingy

[proper oyster]

How tf do you wipe 69M HP "accidentally"

[summer dew]

Meeka did meeka things ig

[random lake]

why do most clears using q.marina use rat?

[proper oyster]

Because starting at F75 q.marina alone is typically not enough DOT so you bring either the rat or reijo

[random lake]

i see. then Meru is the play for me ig. problem is i have access to a UE60 qmarina but only a ue30 meru

[quiet raft]

Because nobody cares about Qmarina?

Because the amount of borrows is staggeringly low, either nobody cares or they don't have her at all

[opaque dagger]

Nah, it's mainly the fact that unless you can run the dumb hyperbuff comp, you need both DoT DPS and main DPS, that's a barrier to entry for newer players

Whereas for Blue Chok, Saori Swimsuit solo DPS is real and easy

[loud knoll]

q.Marina should still work fine for f99-100 without secondary dot

[quiet raft]

oh yeah

[random lake]

i have trouble winging it. cant get 3 stacks of flame before its too late

[opaque dagger]

There's also people who bring Chise to F99 as sub DoT

[loud knoll]

2 stacks is fine with uNeru

[opaque dagger]

Oh I did 1 stack 1st groggy 2 stacks 2nd groggy

[random lake]

o

[quiet raft]

the hw I saw of blue was solo SSaori

f100

[summer dew]

like honestly, i was looking into how solo cover with ballista cancel works on yellow chok so i had 0 intent on clearing using two healers, just wanted to stay alive and to see if it was easy
...then i accidentally cleared

[loud knoll]

ssaori does much more damage than meru or q.marina

to compensate yellow burst dps is stronger. *was before Aris anyway

[opaque dagger]

Neru School still an absolute demon on Chok

[loud knoll]

well there is no f124 with uNeru yet

[opaque dagger]

There already is 122

Iirc it's survival problems past that?

Or maybe they're lacking a bit more dmg idk

[proper oyster]

Whats the highest tiph floor btw, 120?

[quiet raft]

wait that's true, I never thought of how much dmg qmarina ever does

[ancient star]

What's the comp?

[quiet raft]

I just saw her role and that's it

how low is it?

[opaque dagger]

https://youtu.be/OfY1K112JgU

[loud knoll]

On our server I see only f119, but assume its all same team

[opaque dagger]

Ye that's the 118+ team

[loud knoll]

112+ kinda all same, just more stars

[opaque dagger]

115 still doable with Seia + Kirino Swimsuit

[ancient star]

My guess probably lacking damage

[frozen birch]

dang 1 mil only vs enemy Shun and SHanako then? Nice

[opaque dagger]

No, it's survival

Somewhere around 116 to 118, you need Shizuko or Reijo/Marina Qipao dies iirc

[loud knoll]

She probably lived to the end and was shooting Eimi

[random lake]

its insane to think that you can do 224M dmg in so little time

[opaque dagger]

And so Shizuko forces you to use Ui Swimsuit to replace the missing buffs

[random lake]

also why are ppl using shizuko og?

[opaque dagger]

Atk Down

You die without it

[random lake]

damn

[proper oyster]

Wouldn't that be B.Shiroko? Isn't Shizuko just for cover?

[loud knoll]

We have gregorius though

[opaque dagger]

There is no space for Shiroko Bike on highest floors of Chokmah

[loud knoll]

They can't afford unit which does nothing but atk down at highest floors, need role compression

[proper oyster]

Oh I just saw Shizuko's basic. Does 18% less DMG really make that much difference?

[loud knoll]

Even in 108 its already very hard to stick c.shiroko I believe

[opaque dagger]

Basic+ is 23%, and yes it reaches a point where that matters

Take into account that Chok is one shotting Yellow armor students

[random lake]

gregorius got more targets to explode dmg amount. you could also say the same about tiph but it also has laborers which take ~50% of its hp. kurokage/peroro same thing.

[opaque dagger]

It's not even Red/Purple armor students they're trying to keep alive

It's the Yellow armor ones

[loud knoll]

Fair enough. Red Set actually has hp of that magnitude while being single target

[opaque dagger]

Like, all 3 FRR bosses do really stupid amounts of dmg past F110

[summer dew]

when the damage multi is 288% / 900% you really do want every single thing that keeps your unit alive

[opaque dagger]

I still can't believe they got Purple Tiph F120

That's actual insanity

[proper oyster]

Is that the highest floor for tiph yet?

[quiet raft]

I only seen clears on yt until 104 or smth

[opaque dagger]

Yea, and it's ridiculous

[opaque dagger]

https://youtu.be/EJImD5adYss

[ancient star]

Woah, Rei > D.Saori

[loud knoll]

s.Ui is still there

[opaque dagger]

The current records are:

• Blue Chok, Blue Set: 124
• Yellow Chok: 122
• Red Set, Purple Tiph: 120
• Yellow Tiph: 116

[quiet raft]

god, those shupos look so squishy every raid

[opaque dagger]

850 range does magic, easier to control. Also Rei's self cost down is massive

[frozen birch]

reminds me why Shun herself not only doesnt need high invest for pvp but

[random lake]

b.aris destroyed the ceiling

[frozen birch]

also why normal Shun is very unpopular

[opaque dagger]

Not for Set tho. That's just all Kuroko

[frozen birch]

cause she's just kinda, a meta pick and for an unpopular mode

[random lake]

oh right. i just saw blue and forgot about that for a sec

[quiet raft]

timber?

[opaque dagger]

Like I said, beyond 110 you are dealing with actual stupid amounts of dmg even with all correct armor type

[frozen birch]

so basically what im hearing is

[opaque dagger]

Which is why on highest floors of Set and Chok, Atk Down is mandatory

[proper oyster]

Kei is mostly what made F124 on both Set and Chok possible

[summer dew]

oh im getting close to next bond up again (i use 20xp gifts as a measurement cup )

[frozen birch]

A 3* Shun with like, 3111 and no gear still outperforms my UE60 B50 one lol.

or well, performs at the same lvl

[random lake]

ye

[loud knoll]

there is f106 blue set with subaru

[echo oar]

blah, much worse

idk I think chare makes a huge impact

[frail glen]

Why is that?

[frozen birch]

the only FRR i havent done at all

is yellow tiph

cause i dont have the units for it

[loud knoll]

no mika?

[frozen birch]

dunno, but Cupcake did 1 mil damage with 3* Shun in pvp.

[frail glen]

Hmmm

Maybe firing ai glitching out again

[frozen birch]

dunno

[frail glen]

Ur shun doesn’t fire a shot?

[frozen birch]

Nah i can hit 1 mil damage too

[opaque dagger]

If you're not using Rio, then yea duh you need Hare Camp

[frozen birch]

but its sorta just like, Cupcake gets similar results with 3* so you really never need more invest on Shun

[echo oar]

oh I mean, that one was with kotama

[loud knoll]

Shun is built outside of ue, mind you

[young lotus]

Someone do chokmah for me

[random lake]

chokmahball

[frozen birch]

Okay so basically UE and t10 gear dont matter is the real full takeaway

so anyone who UEs Shun outside of actual favouritism is silly and bricking

[echo oar]

instead of chare snagi mina for atk buff + critdmg buff + atk down, I was trying kotama + daru + chise for atk buff + atk down + critdmg buff + more dot ticks

[frozen birch]

and thats rare, for the former ofc

[loud knoll]

well its 1 match in 20 where she doesn't just die to random hibiki basic in the very beginning
not usual experience at all

[echo oar]

but chare's better buffs and 2-cost seems to push it in her favor

[opaque dagger]

Eh, if you don't like the Rio rotation, I think you might wanna try Hare Camp + Shizuko or Ibuki + Kirino Swimsuit and bring back Nagisa Swimsuit

[frozen birch]

well UE60 still dies so no diff really, i can survive TWO non crits, but thats it

[echo oar]

naaaahhh ibuki + snagi is probably gonna perform the same as kotama + daru

[opaque dagger]

But you bring Seia instead of Chise

[loud knoll]

I can guess ue60 kills s.hanako much faster. Actually experience that when attacking

[opaque dagger]

That's the secret sauce

[echo oar]

chare's got 104% atk buffs between her EX and basic tho

seia's such a paaaain thoooughhhh

[frozen birch]

like how many shots would it take your Shun to kill SHanako

[opaque dagger]

With an Atk down, you don't die

[ancient star]

Yeah, right when I started the video, I immediately figured it was all about range lol

[loud knoll]

Not using on attack, hard to tell

[opaque dagger]

That's why Ibuki or Shizuko is the play

[frozen birch]

Here’s mine

[echo oar]

kotama's got it too

[quiet raft]

stronk shun

[frozen birch]

Excuse you

[opaque dagger]

Nah, the cost down is needed too, 850 range just makes it much, much easier to manage them

[summer dew]

a1 shun to d1 tsubo works oddly well

[opaque dagger]

Shizuko gives better set of Subs

[echo oar]

okay let's do this seia

[loud knoll]

Yours do like double damage of mine

[frozen birch]

its cause D1 Tsubo wont pull Shun into danger zones generally

[summer dew]

ya

[quiet raft]

kaiju shun

[echo oar]

crit chance? saya's got that

[opaque dagger]

Oh wait ye you run Nagi Swimsuit nvm

[frozen birch]

yeah i beat out Saki to the SHanako kill lol

[summer dew]

if shun survives the first ~40 sec you have a good chance of winning

[opaque dagger]

Yea my bad, then unironically, Ibuki is the play

[quiet raft]

she transformed from a hamster into a bear

[opaque dagger]

Cos Hare Camp Basic conflicts with Kirino Swimsuit anyway

[frozen birch]

i can actually survive Hibiki hits which is shocking ngl

[opaque dagger]

Unless they don't have overlapping uptime

[frozen birch]

i also have B50 Shunny giving her some stats

[summer dew]

well yeah but my shun is pretty much naked and dies to a sneeze

[quiet raft]

sadge

a single attack kicked me out of top 500

[frozen birch]

still crazy how aside from PvP meta

Shun is a very unpopular character

[opaque dagger]

Wait yea @echo oar wtf happens with Hare Camp + Kirino Swimsuit, who overwrites who

[loud knoll]

you also face stronger opponents in your top 1

[frozen birch]

there's a lot of others that are more unpopular but yeah

[opaque dagger]

Both are 50s

[echo oar]

oh wait that

[frozen birch]

ye im juggling double digits at least

[echo oar]

beats me

I assume chare's applies slower

since skirino does hers asap every time

[opaque dagger]

Animation delay moment

But yea, just try Ibuki, should work

[quiet raft]

Yeah, she is like, doesn't her small alt have more uploads than her og?

or something

[loud knoll]

im happy to enter top 10, but i have like nothing for this season

[opaque dagger]

Ibuki also buffs both constantly so kinda stonks

[echo oar]

guh

[frozen birch]

the art ratio is 1:19 of Shun to Shunny. And funny cause

[echo oar]

gotta put seia on the side then

[frozen birch]

Shunny is a vastly less used student

[loud knoll]

ibuki is not bad armor

*neutral

[frozen birch]

cause Shunny is a very awkward DPS

The nutshell is this:

[opaque dagger]

I mean, Ibuki is part of Blue Chok F124

[quiet raft]

Shunny also does have a less interesting design for me, very simplistic

[little timber]

Discussing about shun and shunny again?

[frozen birch]

Shunny is very awkward to use as a DPS and I would know

indeed

you wont find any others around here who have properly forced Shunny as a DPS option cause

its the equivalent of MAris bald but worse on average

[loud knoll]

wasnt shunny popular when just released?

[frozen birch]

She's been popular just for her, but as an actual DPS never

aside from that ONE JFD and never again

but even then it was eh

[summer dew]

shunny is classic example of damage per screenshot -character most of the time

except these crazy ppl

[quiet raft]

weird

[summer dew]

who use her regardless

[loud knoll]

there was event challenge where you needed strong single red hit and it was obviously designed for shunny, but people used aru

think in kisaki event

[frozen birch]

Yeah like me

[summer dew]

yeah

so much effort needed to make her work for full raid lmao

[frozen birch]

like ppl were capping hard when they say they use Shunny without TYuuka in Hiero

those ppl clearly never used Shunny before

[pallid inlet]

Sure thing man

[frozen birch]

she dies from full health to a major AoE lol

at UE60 B50 T10 gear across the board

and LB25

like the AoE actually removes TYuuka shield and causes bleed through

[summer dew]

[frozen birch]

and this is UE40 TYuuka shield

LB25 healing on TYuuka too

[quiet raft]

"I don't babysit a girl that will instantly die the moment I stop looking at for 10 seconds"

[loud knoll]

i've seen maki kept alive and shunny should have very similar hp

[quiet raft]

48k on ue60

[loud knoll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndoaQmVb8AU actually here it is, 2 red armors
Surely unhealthy experience

[frozen birch]

Or moments like this

[summer dew]

looks painful

[quiet raft]

I know

I already malded with trying to keep SSeia alive on krkg

and that's with krkg's dmg being of a peashooter

[frozen birch]

yeah you'd think, on paper, but in practice, no

[quiet raft]

Do you wait for Sub on shunny dps?

[frozen birch]

ye, so your first EX kinda hits for dog water

[loud knoll]

yea you right, maki has some ~500 def, shunny has 100

[frozen birch]

then you need to wait 20 seconds per EX

hence why

you can't cost down Shunny

you cant Rio her

[quiet raft]

5cost is also too high

[frozen birch]

so she's just really awkward

[quiet raft]

that's almost a dhina worth

[summer dew]

ah the kaiten p2 bgm is so funny

[frozen birch]

and yeah you can't reduce it with anything but Kokona/IMari 1 downs. cant use NYFuuka or

Seia, or Ui

[summer dew]

in a good but cringy way

[loud knoll]

Can cleanse that thing though?

[frozen birch]

Yeah but you don’t get the attack buff then

So it’s a net negative

[quiet raft]

why tho

Oh wait right

sub

[frozen birch]

Cause you lose by accelerating it

[quiet raft]

you have to constantly wait the 20sec

[frozen birch]

The only upside

You do not need

Buff duration

Cause you only buff her ex

And then your down time is 20 seconds anyways

ill be using her on upcoming Kaiten Urban GA

[quiet raft]

that's not an upside that's cope

[frozen birch]

yeah fair

so again

Shunny is not at all a used DPS

if ppl are using her its on their 6th or 8th team in a lunatic

and overall she's not worth to farm from 2x either because of that

[quiet raft]

I am only farming for collection myself

[frozen birch]

you would rather UE60 OG Serika and Shiroko.

[loud knoll]

i farm because her node gives good gear

[frozen birch]

but anyways the bottom line is

she's awkward at best

no one legit uses her as a full DPS option aside from me and maybe 3 others at most. we're all crazy

heck

even JP doesn't know how to use her correctly

[quiet raft]

what about KR?

[frozen birch]

neither do they

Shunny is loved just cause its Shunny

not because she's a viable DPS

[random lake]

part of what makes her kit hard to work with is her own debuff

[frozen birch]

cause there's a red binah team that used Shunny for urban but it used Rio so it basically

ignored the debuff lol

[echo oar]

GUH

[frozen birch]

and just used Rio

[echo oar]

lmao every time

[frozen birch]

which is the wrong way to use her cause you could've just used Aru and gotten a better result

[opaque dagger]

Almost

[random lake]

tho i think nexon should lean more into debuff + bigger buff kits but actually strong

[opaque dagger]

Wait I see the problem, wrong person getting the Piercing Eff buffs

No wonder

[echo oar]

let's try 3 + 3 stacks on groggies

[loud knoll]

at least shunny has her share of b100

[echo oar]

ehhhh

is it proven whether you want seia basic on your dot or dps?

I thought having it on qmarina pays off in its own way by getting stacks faster

[opaque dagger]

Just think about how much more dmg that is during each groggy

[echo oar]

2 + 3 and seia basic on uneru, then!

[loud knoll]

That 2 on uNeru counter says a lot on its own

[frozen birch]

would be nice.

[frozen birch]

yeah, more popular

Normal Shun idk how many she has but its hardly any

[echo oar]

nah I just supercharged uneru's counter for the groggy itself

and then it wore off right after

idk if it's better to try to do the last duel at 1:10 though...

[loud knoll]

normally (read with Rio) you start to charge right before groggy 2 and kill on that same duel

[echo oar]

hmmmm another thing to experiment with

[opaque dagger]

That's how I did F99 actually, 1:20 final VS, groggy at around 35-40s

I learned that trick from the F115+ clears

[echo oar]

yeah that might be best when you're going for 3 + 3 stacks?

since the groggies end up late anyway

[opaque dagger]

Yea who needs to play P2

P2 overrated

[worthy charm]

[loud knoll]

7 Shun 11 Shunny on some half year old JP infographic

dunno how many of those are same person having both

[frozen birch]

mayhaps. anyways, imma use Shunny main DPS for a Kaiten team again but ill have to do the same safety of

Eimi Atsuko

[opaque dagger]

I used this strat for Rioless F74 clear for newbies, just delet during groggy

https://youtu.be/V5-iCpFy458

[frozen birch]

The other oof about Shunny is similar to MAris balding

if she crits and rolls high stab its good

if she doesnt crit then

no damage

a crit and low stab is copeable

but no crit = 0 EX damage

like MAris

also both dont do good AA damage

Shunny even moreso cause 50% attack speed penalty by default.

[opaque dagger]

Very similar timings for final VS and 2nd groggy on F99, I had 6m HP remaining after groggy, cleaned it up with 1 final Neru School EX before VS expires

Didn't even bother with cover, just went for the kill

[frozen birch]

its like, imagine if Shunny was constantly in normal Shun EX stance

that's the attack speed penalty

[loud knoll]

Shunny seems more complicated than Kazusa

[frozen birch]

honestly sounds bout right

Kazusa can in theory use modern supports too i imagine

[random lake]

we need shunny 2 with -50% ATK debuff and then +300% ATK buff after the debuff and also EX skill dmg +100% and +200% red effectiveness and +300% basics profficiency and Weakness Detection (200% of atk per hit) for 1000 hits on enemy

but honestly those kits with debuff have potential because they have a downtime. its a much different dynamic than those that are just strong

which means they can be weaker against some bosses (which makes them being stronger by default less powercreepable on other units)

[patent vault]

D. Hina has bad mood on kaiten
Im gonna have a difficult red tor

[frozen birch]

we dont need that much powercreep but i understand

[empty verge]

I'm using dhina regardless

[proven dove]

It's easy don't worry

[frozen birch]

i'll use Aru for p1

and DHina for p2 but to lead into the Shunny team

[patent vault]

Same

[loud knoll]

its easy if you have someone to fill the teams

like s.hanako p1

[proven dove]

I'm gonna try 1pan red for a bit this time with dhina marina

(after clearing once with 2 teams or more ofc)

[frozen birch]

i imagine just clearing double torment will be plat on NA again

[loud knoll]

even single one probably

[proven dove]

I'm so poor in weapon parts that I can't even ue50 my aru x_x she's ue40 with more than 180 elephs

[loud knoll]

2 will be plat for sure

[frozen birch]

well for Yellow i guess idk how many ppl will be doing the UNeru wanpan

[empty verge]

Literally free

[loud knoll]

plenty? yellow is easiest of them

[random lake]

imagine this character that would self-inflict Damage Taken +300% debuff (or something to make it very fragile) for like 30s. but after that period it would get clear it and get a huge boost to dps. basically you'd have to babysit it for a while and then it would do big dmg

[echo oar]

bwahahaha!!! 3+3 stacks and seia basic on neru did it

left him with 10M after the 2nd groggy, and the last EX did it

[proven dove]

You're overestimating plat 2 torment clears will be plenty

[echo oar]

[frozen birch]

yeah, so honestly since yellow is so free, it doesnt even need AoE or anything

[empty verge]

Not in EU pro server 🗣️

[frozen birch]

i need to just look up the rot for it tho

[random lake]

1 tor enough most times

[loud knoll]

This time neru is fully charged

[echo oar]

yeeee last vs was at 1:10ish

[frozen birch]

well i'll have fun on red for sure

[echo oar]

aimed to groggy at like 0:40

[loud knoll]

you have no s.ui by the way or not using on purpose?

[frozen birch]

yknow what's fun to do to Kaiten? Slap them all with a Mine debuff.

[echo oar]

no s.ui or reijo

[proven dove]

I'll say it's pro when every raid is a torment cutoff. And 2000 is a small number already

[opaque dagger]

bwahahaha!!! I get to say "I told you so"

[frozen birch]

idk what the yellow tor is but i imagine its not only easy but

comfy too

[echo oar]

yeah I'm just happy it worked 😄

[frozen birch]

cause UNeru acts as shield breaker too

[echo oar]

tytyty

[opaque dagger]

Grats btw, now time to learn Rio comps for F105+ 😈

[empty verge]

@fleet narwhal what do we do with this heretic

[random lake]

relatively the same tho. plat is 10% of players

[echo oar]

meeehhhh

[loud knoll]

Does unhealthy levels of damage too. Like s.nonomi can shield break and urban , but she is nowhere that broken

[frozen birch]

so im guessing: Seia UNeru CHare Tsubaki Rio Kisaki?

oh wait

Rio and CHare technically overlap so

with ex

[pallid inlet]

D aru

[proven dove]

You're like the newbie in every community who spreads discord amongst the senpais :p

[opaque dagger]

Now that he has to play comps he don't like, he decides to call it a day

Completely understa-, I mean, reeeeee what about gift box on 106

[frozen birch]

ooh, risky.....

i mean understandable but risky cause its gotta cancel every aoe and stuff

[random lake]

that discord word messed me up cuz of this app's name

[pallid inlet]

Uneru does a lot of damage

[echo oar]

pssshhhhh just a minor blip in the bond journey

I make that much bond in 6 hours

[loud knoll]

I doubt that team will do f106 without ligma spending anyway. Like ue30 uneru and all that

[pallid inlet]

Ue30 uneru probably not enough

[echo oar]

it's nice to push past f99 though

[opaque dagger]

Ye the Neru School UE30 is a legit handicap

[loud knoll]

f100 all for pyro

[frozen birch]

Yeah fair. I’ll just need a video then. Yellow worst case will be a two pan for me

[opaque dagger]

Honestly surprised you even got 104 with that

[random lake]

why so many f99, are those slack scores?

[empty verge]

20 to go...

[echo oar]

it's a shame it's untreaded ground!

[proven dove]

Spreading chaos in the land*

[echo oar]

I wish I had other peoples' clears to use as a reference for how far I can go, but nobody in the f100+ region uses a ue30 uneru

[summer dew]

cream

[loud knoll]

releasing kaijus

[echo oar]

so I just gotta estimate it based on her final damage dealt

[opaque dagger]

UE30 Nozomi understandable because niche, but who in tf does UE30 Neru School lmao

[pallid inlet]

It’s kind of a waste to not ue40 uneru if you’re ever using her

[echo oar]

imma legit try luna binah with her

holding off all the way till I dupe her for +200 in two fests

[pallid inlet]

Ssg

[loud knoll]

looking at the rest of the team there is clear theme there

[opaque dagger]

Imagine if you get busy again and went for UE40 again

[loud knoll]

we don't ligma in this house

[echo oar]

clearing my schedule for the week 😤

[opaque dagger]

Imma hold you onto that one

You went for UE40 on Kurokage, so this time you gotta do it fr

[proven dove]

Are you planning to aim seriously for those dupes or just trying to get lucky ?

[pallid inlet]

Fr fr

[echo oar]

I'll probably plan 400 on it

[empty verge]

You mean lunament...

[echo oar]

which is a pretty high chance at getting all 4 banners

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

[young lotus]

[echo oar]

dang ue40 is 1.25x damage on uneru

[pallid inlet]

Indeed it is

[random lake]

how strong (gear level) does cmaki have to be to break Tor pillar at 3* in geburah?

[proven dove]

Makes sense :3 I'm trying to get lucky within 200 next fes x) waris and boshi dupe :p I got lucky last fes and got a dhina dupe thankfully

[pallid inlet]

I don’t think she can?

[echo oar]

so theoretically, I could do f106 with that exact same run if I did it

[random lake]

pretty sure she can

s.fubu barely cant at 3*

and shes much weaker

[loud knoll]

reactor damage will somewhat struggle with no reijo/sui

[opaque dagger]

She really does, I tried this for fun and it works

[echo oar]

truuuue

[empty verge]

I don't wanna watch chokmah hw

[proven dove]

You need to calculate it, and count (or not) the supports buffs if they are there.

[echo oar]

oh actually, I screwed up my first groggy

[empty verge]

Too hard

[loud knoll]

dont think it will be downright impossible, but harder than expected

[pallid inlet]

Ball knowledge

[echo oar]

VS ran out before the 3rd uneru EX I wanted to do on the first groggy

[young lotus]

Why am I getting poorer

[random lake]

supposing its an idols team

[echo oar]

so that'd compensate a lil

[empty verge]

Tax the rich

Redistribute pyrox

[pallid inlet]

You’re not getting any

[opaque dagger]

DoT optional on F74 frfr

[opaque dagger]

Doing 3 EX groggy without Rio is too baldshino for me

[echo oar]

seia made it a lot easier tbh

[opaque dagger]

See, the sauce!

[echo oar]

the real issue was forgetting how far away I was from the next uneru

[opaque dagger]

Seia is that important

[echo oar]

seia + imari is still a pain though

[empty verge]

I'm gonna try rawdogging f99

[opaque dagger]

Imagine me doing Seia + Kokona lmao

At least you have consistent Mari Idol procs

[summer dew]

soon

kinda close

[pallid inlet]

I still have yet to actually check how many gifts I have for iwak

[empty verge]

Chokmah too hard

[pallid inlet]

Free

[empty verge]

If I repo uneru with the cover, she dies

[loud knoll]

The forges are in full swing

[pallid inlet]

You what now

There’s no way she should be dying

[empty verge]

She dies. Chokmah too powerful.

[pallid inlet]

Bro wtf

[loud knoll]

Ironically comes from person who says "luna binah easy"

[empty verge]

Idk I'm just repeating the meme

[pallid inlet]

My uneru survived fine on f109

With koharu

[round kayak]

is your uneru unbuilt

[empty verge]

She's ue40 mmmm 101010

Bond 21

[loud knoll]

maybe she gets bonked in slot 3

[pallid inlet]

Hello nezo

[round kayak]

hello jerome

[summer dew]

nezon't

[pallid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shiroko-iwak-seikanashi-blue-archive-blueaca-gif-12576967082864112841

[copper crescent]

Hello

[pallid inlet]

Hello

I didn’t know I had fans

[empty verge]

And attack lb 25

[loud knoll]

Seriously are you following video or cooking on the go?

[empty verge]

I'm rawdogging

[loud knoll]

show team?

[empty verge]

Wait I'm getting delivery

[orchid axle]

@round kayak

[round kayak]

with that investment she's supposed to live through one missile wave

[orchid axle]

Wth rex

I'm not deno

[summer dew]

you are

you are rex

[round kayak]

What is it ashia

[orchid axle]

Kaiten teams

[copper crescent]

I'm just a rex without u here

[round kayak]

Oh no

[pallid inlet]

Nezo now that kurokage is over

are you preparing for lunatic binah

[round kayak]

I'm already done

[loud knoll]

nezo preparing for some f2p 2 digit kaiten instead

[copper crescent]

Surely everyone here is alr able to do luna binah

[round kayak]

Like no joke 3/4 of the team is already maxed for binah Luna

[pallid inlet]

I’m still getting resources for it

Maki and eimi might be the first ones to be built

🛥️

[round kayak]

it's f2p if they crit right 💢

[strange ridge]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

[loud knoll]

:subvitals:

[orchid axle]

I'm scared

[round kayak]

1 ligma!!!

[pallid inlet]

Can I get away with t9 hairpin on maki for wakaboat and lunatic binah

[strange ridge]

Better have t10

[round kayak]

For Luna binah t10 more reassuring ig

[strange ridge]

If you plan a run with no healer especially

[pallid inlet]

That’s true

How many attacks should she be able to take on binah

[strange ridge]

Also how is my hibiki more bald than Minori?

[round kayak]

She can tank one ATG afaik

After that it's all lasers

[pallid inlet]

Missiles and atg?

[strange ridge]

2 missiles, 1 atg

[copper crescent]

Ah

U prob can get away

[pallid inlet]

2 missiles?

[round kayak]

Dang I need more research about Luna binah

[pallid inlet]

Isn’t it only one missile wave at the start?

[round kayak]

Ye

Probably later on

?

[strange ridge]

And if you position it right, you can make it not get hit by aoe aura

Yes, missile rain later on

[pallid inlet]

Could I cancel the second one

[loud knoll]

Dies to missile most likely? You need both covers deployed when missiles happen. Consider running attack down too

[orchid axle]

Miaw

[empty verge]

she dies if she goes to the right when repo with skirino

[loud knoll]

skirino doesnt repo

[pallid inlet]

Don’t put the cover on top of uneru

Or place the cover in front

[empty verge]

social distancing

[round kayak]

In the first place why are you trying to make them repo

[empty verge]

im not

[loud knoll]

dont drop cover on top of students, circle is large

[round kayak]

The aura is big enough to not trigger the social distancing

[loud knoll]

or just copy the video as true f2p would

[round kayak]

just place it a bit on the front

Also

[loud knoll]

certain aspects can be hard to figure blind tbh

[round kayak]

Afaik think you only need one cover below F100?

[strange ridge]

Until f74

Well you can do up to f99

[copper crescent]

So technically below f100

[strange ridge]

But you will need to time it right and pray you get max stacks of unstable flame

[pallid inlet]

Or you can be me and use the boshi tech

[orchid axle]

I'm skill issue

[round kayak]

I used solo cover on F106 but that's cancelling the double wheels with balista

[strange ridge]

Why Min

Also what floor was that?

[loud knoll]

was it blue?

cause yellow f106 single cover would be like 🐳

[round kayak]

No yellow

[round kayak]

Nuh uh doesn't need whel investments

[strange ridge]

Nice

[pallid inlet]

Uneru cooking

[round kayak]

ironically just build your natsu and shizuko

[pallid inlet]

Speaking of uneru

[round kayak]

[strange ridge]

Have you dine f100?

[pallid inlet]

Nezo what if I cleared f100 blue chokmah with uneru

[loud knoll]

natsu?

[round kayak]

Ye yellow tank

lemme send the hw

[opaque dagger]

You don't, 1 stack 1st groggy 2 stack 2nd groggy works with 1 cover on F99

[frail glen]

Do yall think they will start using d tsukuyo as cover in chokmah

Or is she wrong armor

Idk

[pallid inlet]

Wrong armor

[copper crescent]

Wrong armor but she prob works somewhere

[pallid inlet]

Boshi is on life support on the higher floors

[copper crescent]

Maybe lower floors

[pallid inlet]

On lower floors I can see her being an alright option

[opaque dagger]

Wtf you got enough output to force steel balls?

[copper crescent]

Damn

[strange ridge]

Wrong armor

[round kayak]

yep, kinda crit maldy tho

[strange ridge]

Until f74

[frail glen]

Sadge

[copper crescent]

Life support

[pallid inlet]

Is there a run or were you balling

[strange ridge]

75+ you really need summon cover or right armor cover

[round kayak]

I was balling it on the start but I was busy on krkg so just went and find a hw instead

[pallid inlet]

I was balling f109

[frail glen]

I wonder if i can make 50m in time to invest in Imari and my other units to clear frr

It is looking bleak

[empty verge]

korean beef burg

[pallid inlet]

Is there a need for you to invest in her

[frail glen]

Yes, the frr

[pallid inlet]

Why not skip and do yellow chokmah later

[frail glen]

I mean i dont have to invest in kaiten

So like

[pallid inlet]

Imari is fine to invest in

But the others prob not

[frail glen]

Also i feel like i can make enough credits in time

It is the thrill

[pallid inlet]

Are you sure

[frail glen]

I have around 45m rn

Idol event gives around 45M

Surely i can make it in time for invest

In the worst case scenario

I do f74 and dip

So yeah

[round kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GnW-ZuOH2o
@pallid inlet @opaque dagger I do actually ball after the balista since I was lazy to copy the TL after that

[pallid inlet]

Just do f74 and dip

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1345795159895445545.webp?size=160&animated=true

[round kayak]

also that kills before phase 2

[pallid inlet]

My man is balling

[frail glen]

I mean then i’d just yolo kokona

[pallid inlet]

I might’ve been able to kill chokmah f106 before p2

[frail glen]

Since imari isnt used anywhere in the near future

[orchid axle]

Oh my last yellow chokmah is around f60

[pallid inlet]

World raid

[loud knoll]

koharu is better

[orchid axle]

Nezo raid

[pallid inlet]

What even is nezo raid

[pallid inlet]

Koharu can go all the way to f109

[orchid axle]

hoshi terror

[opaque dagger]

Are you really Nezo? Why did you go out of your way to find a hw without Boshi for Chokmah

Also I can't run this cos Seia Swimsuit not enough output

[loud knoll]

ShiroKuro red apparently

[pallid inlet]

[orchid axle]

[old rose]

and nezo didn't even do the clear...

[round kayak]

cause it was the only one who had a TL already written (albit only up to the first ballista)

[old rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

[orchid axle]

Himari over kiki?

[astral fern]

Fake hoshino fan

[opaque dagger]

Nezo being lazy on a Boshi raid was def not on my bingo card

[round kayak]

what nuh uh

[old rose]

boshi is used like everywhere tho

[round kayak]

peroro raid is still months away 💢

[pallid inlet]

Nezo’s bed

[orchid axle]

Who's sleeping

[loud knoll]

Hina?

[round kayak]

AUGHHHH HOSHINO X HINA

[empty verge]

drink some water mate

thirst

[orchid axle]

[astral fern]

Whoyo

[pallid inlet]

Bedyo

[old rose]

Midyo

[round kayak]

firefly x miyo

[random lake]

me x miyo

[young lotus]

MiEWWWW

Fuyu is better

[astral fern]

Truth

[young lotus]

[astral fern]

Shityo

[summer dew]

die

[young lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/fuyu-blue-archive-pick-up-animation-gif-13933963667430812372

[old rose]

fuyu's buru akaibu is peak

[young lotus]

Fuyu better

[astral fern]

[tender olive]

Man just 1 more cap lol

need that 2x normal more

[frozen birch]

Or use some EP to buy some selectors

[random lake]

is there a point in enhancing chiaki if i have s.mika built already?

[frozen birch]

Eh, hold until you think you’ll need

[patent vault]

Piercing damage though
She might die

[copper crescent]

From sword sure

Missiles I think she lives

[patent vault]

Mine not ue or t10
Well t10 yet anyway, im working on it.

[copper crescent]

Oh

[pallid inlet]

Just don’t get hit

[old rose]

bold of you to assume he even uses missiles

[frozen birch]

Might not unless she’s high UE and she doesn’t benefit from it anyways. But if running DAru for UNeru shouldn’t even get to missiles

[pallid inlet]

Uneru is just that strong

[copper crescent]

Damn

[frozen birch]

Supposed to yeah groggy

Groggy like 3-4 times

Cause of the sheer damage

I’ll just need a video

[pallid inlet]

Uneru cooks

[frozen birch]

Worst case scenario it’s a two pan

Since I know my UE40 UNeru can’t do it

But I’ll borrow UE60

[tender olive]

I can't

I'm saving it for fest elephs..

[tender olive]

Ue40 uneru not enough for tor?

[pallid inlet]

It should be enough

1 pan maybe not

[tender olive]

Don't tell me 4* toki ain't gonna be enough as dps too??

[old rose]

it is absolutely enough

i'm pretty sure ue30 uneru can wanpan

[tender olive]

Cause i got mine ready too ue40 uneru

So all thats left to borrow me is riooooooo

[summer dew]

1234

this is so silly

[carmine gale]

seem like noone borrow the bottom 2, just your top takane

but wow, that is alot of borrow

[summer dew]

i mean yeah you want either takane or nagi for this jfd

but i never imagined ppl would want takane this bad

[orchid axle]

Who's pulling anyways when fest is this near

[summer dew]

everyone is pulling

[orchid axle]

[summer dew]

pull all!

[carmine gale]

Gotta harem them all!

[summer dew]

i mean im gonna pull idols, nezo and 400 fest

but i cant afford more

[carmine gale]

you using your almighty black card?

[summer dew]

nope

[orchid axle]

I'm gonna use the card

[summer dew]

before takane, last time i pulled was iwak, that was just after last fes

so im just uh not spending

maybe some uhh monthly thingies here and there

you know f2p stuff

[summer dew]

not the p-sensei's card

plana is watching

[empty verge]

1273

[frozen birch]

Wanpan definitely not

At least, not without some other stuff cause I don’t expect the lack of average crits to help in this case

[frozen birch]

Eh….I would at least expect UE40 if anything

But I’ll borrow cause ofc with DAru she doesn’t buff crit rate so UNeru is gonna make up the average of non crits

[quiet raft]

do you peeps actually have notifications for pats?

[candid gust]

me no

me claim ap in setting

[summer dew]

ofc not

[pallid inlet]

I just go by instinct

[summer dew]

i just happen to be in my cafe in 6min 28 seconds from now

by instinct

[quiet raft]

I only know I patted at like 4 hours ago and rember

[eternal thorn]

I pat when i feel like it

[pallid inlet]

If I’m free then I do it on reset

If not I do it whenever I feel like it

[candid gust]

I don't pat, I claim AP in setting

[summer dew]

i do actually set a 3hour alarm every time i do pats

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1490429686633730099/20260406_012931_online-video-cutter.com.gif

[summer dew]

wtf

hello

[candid gust]

[summer dew]

you feed nagi gifts from there too

[candid gust]

is that your 2nd identity

[summer dew]

yes

[eternal thorn]

[summer dew]

i havent slept much lately

8 pats is worth it trust

[strange ridge]

No. Just timing it every 3 hrs

[astral fern]

Hai Idol Peavy

[quiet raft]

I feel like one of you must be lying

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981545444448542800/1424792339167051848/attachment.gif

[tender olive]

So crit dmg is gonna be useless buff for her?

[strange ridge]

To who?

[candid gust]

Uneru

Her crit is bad

Doesn't mean her crit dmg is bad

[tender olive]

Hmmm

[pallid inlet]

Imagine if guaranteed crits

[tender olive]

That's the problem.. If its that bad.. Just imagine

[strange ridge]

Bald stab.

[pallid inlet]

You don’t have to imagine

[summer dew]

imagine

[pallid inlet]

It’s called yellow chokmah

[half scaffold]

||you only need 1 alarm||

[pallid inlet]

Chokmah is dead

[frozen chasm]

just stay in game 24/7

[summer dew]

i do

i just keep game open even when not on pc or doing something else

if my alarm goes off i go headpat and continue my business elsewhere

[copper crescent]

Oh it bday

I go give her present

[pallid inlet]

Yesterday

🦖

[copper crescent]

I NA 🦖

[heavy remnant]

is there any easier way to do Part 1 urban Kiaten outside Marina push?

[frozen chasm]

just do the old strat with serina tsubaki

[pallid inlet]

D hina it

[halcyon latch]

Old trusty

[strange ridge]

Hina it

[copper crescent]

I used to do dhina with cherino tsubaki nyfuuka himari and eimi

Spread the dmg between the 3 and then rotate tsubaki nyfuuka dhina himari the whole fight

[frail glen]

electric bills:

[flat kraken]

i'm pretty conflicted if I should roll for I.Mari since its her rerun next week, especially since fes is just a couple of months away

[copper crescent]

How much pyrox u have

And how much pyrox can u get

Or idk man use the pyro planner

[summer dew]

idk my setup doesnt consume that much rly

[frail glen]

my pc devours electricity

like

[copper crescent]

If u don't have takane or kokona then imari is a good pick

[frail glen]

it almost costs pakejis

[past spruce]

How much pyros do you have rn?

[flat kraken]

yeah my kokona is pretty solid rn

[past spruce]

I.Mari is a great healer to have

[flat kraken]

tho wouldnt hurt to have another over healer

[halcyon latch]

Might want to check if there is an altcoin farm going on with your pc you dont know about

[copper crescent]

Ur cooked in geb tho

[frail glen]

it's a 4090

[flat kraken]

its enough to guarantee from Himari till Yuzu

[copper crescent]

Imari is great in most places

[flat kraken]

but after that, broke

[copper crescent]

That's good enough lmao

[past spruce]

🦖

Yeah

Get I.mari

[flat kraken]

its 141k for concrete numbers

[past spruce]

Wait, you also have Kisaki right?

[halcyon latch]

1 tap imari pls John nexon

[flat kraken]

yes my liege

[copper crescent]

Me with 30k sweating buckets and this guy here have 141k

[past spruce]

Alright

[past spruce]

I have 34k rn

[frail glen]

these whales

[halcyon latch]

36k

[frail glen]

[past spruce]

Nuh uh

[frail glen]

how can a flexible f2p like me compete

[past spruce]

Says the whel

[copper crescent]

Damn whales

[past spruce]

Who bought archive selector

[steep vortex]

a f2p like me has 142k

[past spruce]

[copper crescent]

F2p are so good at saving pyros

[steep vortex]

me not a kaiju, just a hoarder

[frail glen]

I see selector my brain went awwoga

[copper crescent]

Wtf

[past spruce]

Ssg

[copper crescent]

Holy f2p

[frail glen]

sus

[lilac solar]

ssg oil baron...

[copper crescent]

Bro is so f2p

[steep vortex]

wow were almost twins

amazing

[flat kraken]

gold is better anyways aruji-dono is life

[frail glen]

these whales smh

[copper crescent]

Huh i thought connor was st jerome

[past spruce]

No

[copper crescent]

Wait that's not connor

[frail glen]

f2p like me cannot compete with these whales

[copper crescent]

Huh im confused

[past spruce]

It is Connor tho

[past spruce]

The other guy doesn't have the pink tag

B100 Kisaki

[copper crescent]

Ooo

I thought st jerome was connor

[past spruce]

Connor is the one who accidentally used his yellow gift selectors for wavecats

[copper crescent]

Yes

:connor:

[steep vortex]

dang bob forgot who i was

smh

[copper crescent]

Dude i thought st jerome was u changing ur name

[lilac solar]

this is what being a true f2p gets you

[proven dove]

It's jerome effect apparently :p

[steep vortex]

no, that guy started talking in gpd just a couple months ago

lol

[copper crescent]

Ooo

I saw kisaki pfp and thought it was connor

[past spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[steep vortex]

most my name in here has ever changed was when i added epic gaki rpg when that happened

[copper crescent]

Ah

[proven dove]

It's more than a couple of months but true relatively

[steep vortex]

time flies

[frail glen]

if time flies

does clock the run

https://tenor.com/view/cat-think-meme-jgmm-cat-think-meme-ragebait-gif-14788872422707786751

[steep vortex]

no it drowns

[crude sable]

Indeed, like sonic

[halcyon latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-an-iq-too-high-an-iq-too-low-smart-dumb-gif-8165603809975699407

[crude sable]

Sushi robot man needs to come run the fade im itching for raid

[frail glen]

ARGGGHH GIMME IDOLS

i need it i need it i need it

gimme gimme idols

[proven dove]

3 days

[lilac solar]

what is it with red winter students and having surprise large

[crude sable]

Im so excited to finally not be idolet

Instant ue60 imari

[frail glen]

smh these whales

eligma burning like nothing

[proven dove]

Who except yakumo

[lilac solar]

meru too

[proven dove]

Oh meru it's clearer

[flat kraken]

Minori prolly

[crude sable]

Being koklet and imarilet really does smth to a fella Istg 😦

[lilac solar]

me ue60 takane

[proven dove]

Anyway degenerate back and forth I don't wanna dwell in it

[proven dove]

She's perfect after all

:takane: where takane emote

[frozen chasm]

[lilac solar]

now this is true

[frail glen]

if you think about it

all striker healers are basically the peak of BA design

[crude sable]

Except rumi I guess

Ngl she kinda pisses me off for some reason

[lilac solar]

rumi's l2d though

[proven dove]

I like rumi

Grandma vibes "eat more dear son"

[crude sable]

I think i just dislike her kit so much that I associate it with her existence, which is valid imo