💬gameplay-discussion

[eternal thorn]

[polar orbit]

i see vinny in there though

we have our gpd representation

[spice basin]

Atleast there are mods in there

[shell tree]

I can’t pay attention to ts

[polar orbit]

is it that bad

[shell tree]

yes

[steady prairie]

Vinny are you having a lobotomy

[shell tree]

I’m requesting one

[frail glen]

somehow dropped to 180

[steady prairie]

[frail glen]

and somehow climbed back to above 100 in less than 5 without refresh

wait there is a VC?

let me check

[shell tree]

don’t

jk

join and tell me what they’re talking about

[frail glen]

eh sounds like an average discord VC

I thought there is going to be death metal playing in the background

[shell tree]

I like metal, though

Not in vc, though; it’d probably sound like ass

[stuck valley]

why is there vc anyways

[tender olive]

Uhmm excuse me mind asking if neru bunny has this hit times with her ex skill??

[stuck valley]

so many people

[stuck valley]

probably

[shell tree]

probably

[tender olive]

Alternative for upcoming kaiten p2 shield breaker

[tender olive]

Like how many times?

[shell tree]

Sorry, I was memeing

[tender olive]

How many times?

Plan to attempt torment btw

[shell tree]

(you should say that you were also memeing)

[echo oar]

if you go to schaledb, you can see the number by mousing over the damage percent

[stuck valley]

Sorry, I was memeing

[echo oar]

bneru's kinda rough into kaiten though, since she's a bad armor type

more of a last resort, really

[stuck valley]

yellow tank = bad

red tank = good

idk if I can even do ins kaiten

[echo oar]

she has more than 1666 def though, so she's taking the same damage as a blue armor unit with 0 def

but you need a different tank in front of her to take autos

[tender olive]

Thankyou so much for showing me.. I was planning to invest on other students but i saw my bunny neru pretty invested enough and hope to survive on p2

[echo oar]

eeee it might be a far shot

but if she's already built, no harm in testing it out

[tender olive]

I know but I'll try to speedrun

[polar orbit]

you will try to go bald

[stuck valley]

I have a built Marina as red tank

[shell tree]

and you?

[polar orbit]

comfy clears only

[shell tree]

this is what I said too, but I ended up getting t50 in krkg

[polar orbit]

holy 🛐

gj

[shell tree]

someone gave me a hw he claimed to be “comfy”

[polar orbit]

never trust a dealer

[shell tree]

I should never trust my club when they use that word

[gleaming wren]

hello

[cunning stone]

I would never trust anyone in gameplay discussion that says "comfy"

Wrong thing I replied too but it still stands LOL

[steady prairie]

we're comfy for life, smh

[frail glen]

1 pan hw is comfy

[cunning stone]

[frail glen]

whjat raid is that?

krkg?

nah idk

what raid is that?

What raid would need a hifumi, mine, and s hanako

[steady prairie]

peroro indoor

LOL

[frail glen]

wait but what hifumi doing in peroro

[tall glacier]

Laser redirect

[steady prairie]

bait laser so mine doesn't face tank it and die

[frail glen]

was this before Natsu was a thing?

[tall glacier]

I think its ancient raid with iroha ibook

[steady prairie]

i think it was a 2pan with iroha into this?

[tall glacier]

So multi pan

Ye

[steady prairie]

yeah iroha ibook

last peroro before boshi

[tall glacier]

I didn't have mine back then and did some funny shana+nutsuki

[frail glen]

oh so that is a second pan

[tall glacier]

[steady prairie]

i mean u can tell form the scores

39.5m is 6 min ish

[frail glen]

wow power creep realy is real huh

[shell tree]

istg that imari team reduced my lifespan a tiny bit

[old rose]

i mean a little bit

all of those strategies are still relevant in luna

[steady prairie]

I was still doing ext on that lol, borrowed iroha but only have ako + himari and no nyk so i was like "fuck why is my dmg on ins nonexistent"

[frail glen]

fossil memories

[steady prairie]

now next time we have peroro indoor it's gonna be kisaki snagi kei boshi

[frail glen]

why not just

mutsuki

mutsuki p2

[opaque dagger]

Imagine thinking Hiero/Hod/Pelolo indoor exists

[frail glen]

and boshino p1

[steady prairie]

Well you have fun with that because luna is around 7 teams

[frail glen]

oh luna

[grim finch]

is jp livestream today

[opaque dagger]

Nexon hates Indoor raids, this is known

[old rose]

tor is not a real difficulty

[frail glen]

no sane person is doing peroro luna

[steady prairie]

Yeah true

only comfy person do

[tall glacier]

I guess they are insane haha

[steady prairie]

because we're too tired to be sane

[frail glen]

honestly I can do peroro luna if I just spook s hanako

[opaque dagger]

Sunday

[frail glen]

and have billions of mats

[steady prairie]

you can do everything with billions of mats, bro

[opaque dagger]

There's a good chance next Pelolo is 3-4 team clear

[frail glen]

true

[steady prairie]

just spend 4 digits usd a month

[opaque dagger]

Unless it's Indoor

[frail glen]

7 teams sounds like at least another year for me

[steady prairie]

surely it will catch up

if it's outdoor im prepared for slop

[frail glen]

do you know anyone who actually does that

4 digits is unthinik of

[proper oyster]

$10.01

[opaque dagger]

That's honestly small change at the whel level

[steady prairie]

Closest i've seen is $400

[opaque dagger]

I knew people who used to throw $1k every 2 weeks for new char banner

[opaque dagger]

On a different game

[frail glen]

that sounds like cs2 not a gacha game lmfao

[opaque dagger]

It was from 2016, pity didn't exist then, and we had 0.5% for 6 stars

[frail glen]

why not just case opening in that case

[frail glen]

technically 10.00 also counts

01.00 is pushing it

00.01

[opaque dagger]

Also, if you think 4-5 digits is bad, wait till you hear people spending 6-7 digits monthly on MMOs like Diablo Immortal and Lineage

[frail glen]

ye I don't have a trust fund to do that

[opaque dagger]

Like, once you get to know the true upper echelons of leviathans

[frail glen]

nor am I oil prince

[opaque dagger]

4-5 digits suddenly looks normal

[old rose]

yea some "gacha" games have people spending thousands daily

[graceful fable]

[opaque dagger]

Most modern gacha games are just so damn cheap by comparison

Anyone who was playing gacha games in early to mid 2010s will tell you that

[frail glen]

I heard stories of mmos from my father's time
like people spend 100k monthlies etc on some korean mmo

[opaque dagger]

Most likely Lineage

That's the most infamous one

[frail glen]

ye prob lineage

some people still spend 100k on some nexon game

namely

DNF

[proper oyster]

What are leviathans?

[frail glen]

the being stronger than whales

honestly they prob poseidon at that spending level

[opaque dagger]

A category for gigantic whels

People call them kraken/leviathans because they put normal whels to shame

[proper oyster]

Is that like thousands of USD/month?

[frail glen]

tens to hundreds of thousands

[opaque dagger]

Depends on game, but 5-7 digits monthly exist

Like, for BA, who tf spends 5 digits a month, there's actually nothing to buy atp

[proper oyster]

7 digits? Who the fuck would spend $9,999,999/month on a game

[frail glen]

nexon finally merciful for once

[opaque dagger]

Go read up on Lineage MMO, very infamous example in the MMO space

[frail glen]

imagine levelng equips has a chance to fail, which will drop your t10 back to t1

[opaque dagger]

This the MMO model lmao

[tired wyvern]

Man, i barely save $3 a Month to get something in Month 5

[old rose]

a lot of 4X strategy games also see massive spenders

[frail glen]

sometimes you got to appreciate chess

it is free

[opaque dagger]

Like, you'd think "who tf spends so much money for in-game transactions", but enough people do this to make it a viable business model

[steady prairie]

i remember when mmorpg guild war was actually millions of dollar in damage

[proper oyster]

So for games like BA there are no leviathans?

[tall glacier]

I only know klee

[steady prairie]

100 4800

[tall glacier]

[opaque dagger]

I dunno how much the guy who has UE60 everything with 100k Ligma stock spent

[old rose]

i mean it depends on your definition of leviathan

[leaden sandal]

50k pyros reached!!!

[opaque dagger]

Those are people who roll gacha to stock up on Ligma to burn them on crafting

And not use their sparks to get more keystones to do more crafting

[tired wyvern]

Congratulations

[old rose]

if ur defining it as the top .01% of spenders, then ofc there are leviathans
if ur defining it as people who spend >10k per month (or some other arbitrary figure) then maybe there aren't any

[tall glacier]

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しゃちくますたー (@Shachiku0515)

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X · Feb 3, 2025, 9:59 AM

[opaque dagger]

What's the breaking point of "I bought too many Pyros, I now have too many Keystone and Ligmas to use them up"

[leaden sandal]

counting all my tickets and the repaired card i have 54878 in total

[frail glen]

honestly, a very real goal of mine is to collect all students, might take forever though
only a flexible f2p at its core

BA is just a hard game to unlock all characters

[steady prairie]

you do that because that's the only way for more keystones to craft

[tired wyvern]

for Gift

[tall glacier]

Collect all and f2p feels impossible

[tired wyvern]

for Bonding

[proper oyster]

When did you start playing the game?

[tall glacier]

[steady prairie]

you already failed, you're forever missing 4

[opaque dagger]

Ye for whels, the bottleneck isn't even Ligma or collection, it's fucking crafting

[frail glen]

i really dc about those collab units

I am not playing the game for miku

[steady prairie]

but they count

[tired wyvern]

never can truly, since Miku and any collab won't rerun

[frail glen]

well in my pov they don't count

[tired wyvern]

i'll simply raise Bond my Waifus and consistent Raid clear as my goal

[steady prairie]

well in my pov they count

but have fun spending

[frail glen]

let's agree to disagree

[old rose]

the final bottleneck isn't keystones because u can whale for more of those; it's time/AP for booster tickets

[steady prairie]

i agree you're whale

[frail glen]

I think technically and realistically, you can get all the characters from 2 years from the current anni

[opaque dagger]

That's what I'm saying, how much do you need to spend to reach this bottleneck

[old rose]

the fact that AP refresh is capped at 20/day is the sole reason why it's literally impossible to reach b100 every student

[proper oyster]

Makes me wonder though, if someone started playing BA today, how long would it take until they unlock all non-collab students?

[exotic dawn]

How many are you missing ATP

[frail glen]

bro I am only been through 1 fest

[steady prairie]

getting all sounds a fair bit easier with encore banners

[frail glen]

I am stillmissing like 50

[old rose]

aside from how long it would literally take to click thru crafting/giving gifts

[frail glen]

I think I will have all the year 1 2 students soon

[exotic dawn]

That a quite far goal then

[tall glacier]

I mean, you have more characters than me already somehow

[opaque dagger]

Like, at some point you're just time gated because you gain keystones faster than you burn them

[proper oyster]

Assuming they're a leviathan who always pulls on every banner.

[opaque dagger]

But where is that breaking point

[frail glen]

prob a year at most

[opaque dagger]

You probably can easily do this in 6-12 months if you have no budget limits

[frail glen]

since all limited reruns in a year interval

[steady prairie]

speaking of bond i still need to do my calc on exp gain monthly

[old rose]

well i don't know any people who are bottlenecked by keystones and are pulling for keystones, let alone any people who are bottlenecked by time/booster tickets

[exotic dawn]

Give it 2 years

[opaque dagger]

The older ones have reached 18 month cycle lmao

[frail glen]

aren't those especially old ones already in archive banner?

surely they won't be rerun again

hence reducing overall average limited rerun time

[echo oar]

gpd mindset in a nutshell

[opaque dagger]

Now the Year 2/Year 3 ones go on that 18 month cycle

[tired wyvern]

i've been playing for 2 years 11 days, i got 189 Students now

[proper oyster]

Aren't there limiteds who only reruns once every ~1.5 years?

[opaque dagger]

That's the biggest limit: how fast Limiteds rerun

[echo oar]

it's tough to stay fully up-to-date at all times tbh

[opaque dagger]

Apart from that, you can whel your way to full collection

[frail glen]

then realistically, 1.5 years

full collection

[echo oar]

impossible without spending or getting real lucky

[opaque dagger]

Unless you run the GFL/Nikke model of "sure, full collection is easy"

[echo oar]

like, if you recall the jp fest livestream, the number of senseis with all students at that time was shockingly low

[exotic dawn]

I mean, you are late to the party , that ought to happen

[echo oar]

even if you're a day 1 player!!

[steady prairie]

audiens do you still keep the 500 keystone burning result

[opaque dagger]

And then GFL2 slaps you with the "your units are useless until 6 dupes" and Nikke slaps you with the "costumes are $60"

[echo oar]

you simply can't keep up with 8 new units every half year

[opaque dagger]

Either way, poison exists in all gacha games, just in different forms

[frail glen]

how is nikke btw

customes are also gacha or you buy them straight up

personally, i know this is not very gacha like, I would just prefer a price tag

[opaque dagger]

Every single costume is at least $20

[echo oar]

this?

[opaque dagger]

There's the gacha costumes where you will most likely hit $60

[steady prairie]

yeah

[opaque dagger]

And then the BP costumes that are $20 each that gives you jack shit in return

[steady prairie]

was this raw 500 or did you do 500 + daily keystones on top of this

[echo oar]

it was daily keystones

[frail glen]

when picking my first gacha game, I was choosing between nikke and BA

[opaque dagger]

Like, Nikke BPs are actual trash, you only buy them for the costumes

[echo oar]

on top of that

[frail glen]

did I make the right choice

[steady prairie]

hmmm

[echo oar]

I think I was averaging probably like 8 crafts a day?

[grim finch]

no cuz u have negative credit

[echo oar]

so subtract 2.3 or whatever it is you get per day

[opaque dagger]

They're sufficiently different games, yet surprisingly similar looks at Nikke Raid Boss balding

[proper oyster]

I always wondered, how is it possible to obtain this gift?

[tired wyvern]

Damn, that's average salary 3 Months Honorary Teacher here.

[opaque dagger]

But I can say this: Nikke's events are superbly high quality

[steady prairie]

anniversary logins

[exotic dawn]

The right choice is not to choose unfortunately

[steady prairie]

they're shit in value though lol

that is

60 exp you're looking at

not 240

[frail glen]

i just go tooooo bored

like toooooooo bored

so like

why not play a gacha game I say to myself

[steady prairie]

Have you tried doing crypto

[frail glen]

heck no

wtf

okay realistically, i know everything about crypto
the more I learn, the more I am holding off not owning them

because I feel like there are much more to learn

[echo oar]

yeah what stark said

[steady prairie]

hmm

prob just easier if i just try to dig when do you start it

easier to calculate start -> end compared to doing it pace based

[opaque dagger]

The monetization model is honestly shit, but when you consider how high effort their events are (Nikke has 0 downtime between events btw), you start to understand the price tag

[echo oar]

you're just trying to find roughly how much you get per craft?

[steady prairie]

From how much per craft, to how much per month, etc

[frail glen]

how's Nikke story I am curious
I also care about story content like a lot

[echo oar]

riiiight yeah, uhhh though event gifts throw a small wrench into that too

[opaque dagger]

Did you just login every 8 hrs to clear your keystones

Or you just did 1 batch a day

[echo oar]

I already logged in every 3 hours for headpats

[steady prairie]

event gifts are kinda a big wrench but i'll try to sort it out

somehow

[frail glen]

then how do you sleep

[echo oar]

I just clicked into the crafting menu whenever it had a red dot

[frail glen]

wtf....

[steady prairie]

for now it's just crafting

[opaque dagger]

Lifeless addict spotted 🙃

[echo oar]

insomnia

[frail glen]

do you sleep only 5 and 55 minutes?

[steady prairie]

i'd like to do that but im running negative on mats

[frail glen]

because that's the only way I can think of you want all headpats in a day

[opaque dagger]

Sleep in 3 hr batches

[echo oar]

my sleep schedule's settled into a rhythm of 5 hours of sleep, then 3 hours of sleep, whether I like it or not

[exotic dawn]

Is fine from what I heard

[echo oar]

and that was before I played BA

[opaque dagger]

Bro has sleep cycle built for BA

[frail glen]

it is so over

[echo oar]

it somehow worked out

[frail glen]

get at least 8 hours of sleep bro

[opaque dagger]

It really was meant to be

[frail glen]

it is good for your mental health

[steady prairie]

i'm trying to like find the basis of what mido used in his bond calculator

[echo oar]

believe me, I try my hardest to get 8 hours of sleep

[simple zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1482503434501357568.webp?size=96&animated=true

[echo oar]

it's actually impossible for me

[pure vessel]

blue archive sleeping schedule

[echo oar]

again, this was a thing before I played BA

[frail glen]

well there are scientific cases where some people need to sleep less

regardless, take care of yourself mate

best wishes

[echo oar]

I can spend 12 hours in bed and get 5 hours of sleep

[opaque dagger]

Is there even any gacha game with bad story in the 2020s lmao. Seems like a baseline req these days

[echo oar]

just happens some nights

[tired wyvern]

Yeah it's understandable, i appreaciate atleast some of Gacha Games i known putting the best effort they could, i'm glad atleast i can keep up for BA.

[spice basin]

I kneel

[frail glen]

Vol 1

actually there are a lot, but those failed

[steady prairie]

honkai star rail

[opaque dagger]

Bro, I played gacha games in the 2010s, there was obligatory bare bones lame event stories in all those

You have to remember that I was a 2010s gacha gamer, my standards are rock bottom

[frail glen]

honestly if I ever start to play a second gacha, prob limbus since i heard the story is amazing
but i am too lazy to finish lobtomy corp and library of ruina to play the game

[steady prairie]

btw weapon parts are worth picking up in the crafting chamber

[frail glen]

they being idling in my steam library forever

[wicked vine]

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FixupX · Apr 15, 2026, 3:16 AM

[tall glacier]

[pure vessel]

shake it gurl

[frail glen]

I ma do the same to my aru plushie

come here

[pure vessel]

I started with kancolle

[echo oar]

idk if that'll help, but maybe

[pure vessel]

story? what story?

[opaque dagger]

Exactly

[pure vessel]

we have a story?

[echo oar]

it assumes each gift is 60 bond though, which isn't the case if you're prioritizing just one student

[opaque dagger]

Like, sure, we have standards in this day and age, but whenever I recall the gacha game scene from 10 years ago, I just think "ok it's not as bad as back then" even on a mid game

[steady prairie]

wait i immediately see issues

are you actually assumming flower is guaranteed 60

yeah ok i gotta expand upon this

[echo oar]

[exotic dawn]

can just play it anyway

[frail glen]

nah it doesn't feel right for me

can't play a sequal without prequel done

[pure vessel]

automatic 60 be like

[steady prairie]

lemme see if mido is cooking

[echo oar]

just find a student who loves that gift for every single gift, it's that shrimple

[opaque dagger]

Are you trying to do bond calcs for B100 Nagi

[steady prairie]

yeah i wanna see if it's feasible within 15 months of natural income or i'm gonna have to start eating ice soup biweekly

[echo oar]

I think it's actually working really well for me, though there are a few gifts that are still very eh

[opaque dagger]

Logs into BA to headpat
Chihiro in cafe
I'm sad again

[echo oar]

dress mutsuki...

[exotic dawn]

I'm still trying to get my 2nd and 3rd b50, they are pretty close now

[opaque dagger]

I mean, you still got a perma to cope

I got nothing left

[old rose]

none... left?

[steady prairie]

wdym you don't have 3 b50 by now

[fleet narwhal]

that name...

[opaque dagger]

This is what you call a DD moment

[echo oar]

designated driver??

[opaque dagger]

daremo daisuki

[spice basin]

forgot I can craft specific furnitures till yesterday, I was waiting for a hoshi desk ""spook"" from crafting

[echo oar]

daaaawwwwww

[opaque dagger]

Used in Vtuber communities, basically a simp for everyone

[steady prairie]

?

[opaque dagger]

Bro really pulling up the Unix commands on me

[echo oar]

take some of mine, I beg you

[opaque dagger]

As if I don't know what the dd command does

[echo oar]

and yeah, the furniture selectors are a godsend

[spice basin]

Holy frick

[steady prairie]

hey i just search what dd is and that's the first thing it gives me

[exotic dawn]

mb I don't bond chase that bad

[opaque dagger]

Give me the desk with the cardigan

Then we got a deal

[echo oar]

lookin goooooood

trade you em for keibots at a 2:1 ratio

[steady prairie]

I'm not even one

[opaque dagger]

Not you, I meant Audiens

[exotic dawn]

gotta do everything to get as much HP on Seia as possible

[opaque dagger]

He has no B50s because he's peak DD

[echo oar]

hahaha I wanted that for a while too, but seia fell by the wayside for me

was gearing up to slap lots of gifts on sseia, but they all went to others in the end

[echo oar]

oooh another even bonder

[steady prairie]

fes bonder...

[opaque dagger]

See, the problem here is: I was bald even before BA

[steady prairie]

scary...

[opaque dagger]

So she ain't getting more bond, I can handle the frustration of using her

[frosty harbor]

you say fes, but look at sena

[opaque dagger]

I NEEEEEEED, NONOMIIIIIIIIIIIII

[shell tree]

do you even bond

bro?

[echo oar]

I see yall have got some strong top bonds, but how bout the breadth of your bonds

7 full rows of b30+, read em and weep!

[opaque dagger]

I don't always get purple Interactive Furniture from crafting, but when I do

[echo oar]

partaaaay

[frosty harbor]

only 6 rows of 30+

[spice basin]

Dude why do I have this too

[opaque dagger]

NO, GIB ME DONUT STAND

I DON'T WANT THIS

[echo oar]

oooh lots of good ones though

double kayoko 👀

[spice basin]

I also got s hinata furniture

[frosty harbor]

for that one binah

[opaque dagger]

Me sorry, me poor

[steady prairie]

is it actually an even chance whether you get 1 or 2 drops

[echo oar]

I actually have no clue

it feels more weighted towards 1

but my crafting luck feels kinda bad

[steady prairie]

schaledb is being helpful in the worst way

[opaque dagger]

Node 3?

[echo oar]

yeee

[opaque dagger]

I seem to always get more than 1 whenever I get gifts from Node 3

But I have very smol sample size

[echo oar]

haha you've got some unique ones

and not a single fest in sight

[opaque dagger]

I've said before: I play for waifus, my Binah dictates everything that I do, and I live by that

[echo oar]

yeah I uhhh what's the word for it

I respect that

the triple yuuka and double nonomi 👀

[opaque dagger]

That felt so forced

[echo oar]

where's your base hasumi tho

no it was genuine!!!

[old rose]

i have one relevant bond and its b46 shanako for luna krkg

meta slave 🥀

[echo oar]

ayyy

ope headpat time

[spice basin]

Headpat time

[opaque dagger]

Nonomi and Yuuka stealing all the daily cafe invites so she's down here

[candid gust]

i need more fund

[echo oar]

hell yeah we bondposting now

[frosty harbor]

check cafe bois

[echo oar]

psmh and crouton's not a trinity boy

for shame

[opaque dagger]

Seia and Aru Dress is purely because I UE30'd both very early (for my first Tor) and I have both their furniture

[echo oar]

yuuuuup I get that

[tall glacier]

Sorry, i pick favourites

[opaque dagger]

Next 2 rows if you're curious

[echo oar]

the pinned fubuki tho 👀

[opaque dagger]

You can tell from this list which furnitures I have

[echo oar]

bwoah shupos next to each other, as it should be

[opaque dagger]

I'm honestly going to start gifting soon

[spice basin]

If one shupo is higher than the other we need to have an investigation

[opaque dagger]

Headpat to 50 is insanity, cos 35 to 50 is like, 3-4x longer than 1 to 35

[frosty harbor]

pretty sure i got mika to 50 with headpats

hell both my wakamos were only with headpats (they're not 50 yet)

[echo oar]

you get used to it haha

you just tap em every day and get happy when the rare bond up pops up

[opaque dagger]

I have too many waifussssssssssss

[frosty harbor]

i don't use my favorite student :c

[echo oar]

wait how long have you been around gamja

[frosty harbor]

800 ish days

[echo oar]

ahhhh dang yeah

[patent vault]

4 million on nagisa

[echo oar]

that's still a lot for that timeframe

[shell tree]

so oldge

[frosty harbor]

thanks vin, i really needed that

ㅠㅠ

[opaque dagger]

I just realized, I'm pretty close to my target of consistent Tor/F99/140 coin

Which means it is almost time to pivot into waifumaxxing

[frosty harbor]

what happened to luna?

[opaque dagger]

Fuck Luna, I'm not raising 10 different students when I can UE60 my Nonomis and Yuukas

[echo oar]

let's gooooo

I might be straying in the opposite direction

[frosty harbor]

hmm i could have sworn you were a rio simp

[tall glacier]

Wait for 2pan luna ig

[opaque dagger]

I waifu half the entire roster

Okay?

[echo oar]

finally hitting my permit goals, so I'm starting to think of ue40ing certain units with permits instead of making more welfares ue30

[steady prairie]

the big ones

[opaque dagger]

I didn't know Kei and Yuuka were big, but ok

Also, people will probably find it shocking that I'm not really into Asuna or Karin

[frosty harbor]

i thank them for their service saving the game but yeah im not that into them either

[opaque dagger]

The first one might end up being Hasumi Swimsuit tho, I heard Pelolo kinda maldy without UE60

[frosty harbor]

man.... more trinity mats down the drain

[opaque dagger]

That's waifu tax, I have delayed paying it for a year, it is time to pay up

[spice basin]

Shasumi actually kinda good tho

Well for me at least

[frosty harbor]

i was considering swimsuit hasumi actually, because she randomly showed up in two strats i wanted to run

[lament gyro]

What’s next raid

[echo oar]

kaiten ga

[lament gyro]

Holy shit!

I get to collect chare tax again

[steady prairie]

ga yellow tor is seia daru rio kiki

[daring coral]

[opaque dagger]

You can collect that in like, most GAs

[steady prairie]

sadly

[daring coral]

Mika & noa
In “old, unused building”

[spice basin]

I've gotten seia and uneru in a "shared dormitory" In red winter

[opaque dagger]

Noa wouldn't do it in front of someone from another school

~~Instead she will expertly lure me away to be alone then pounce on me, which I fully welcome ~~

[charred crystal]

guess I did pretty damn good

the best krkg rank I've done

[opaque dagger]

Maple why so kaiju

Also, is this NA?

[charred crystal]

yes

[steady prairie]

maple america ya

[charred crystal]

me in western

[opaque dagger]

So many Korean speakers in NA server

[charred crystal]

I spik 🇺🇸

[proper oyster]

I wonder if a new student will come with the rerun of the nozomi and hikari banners because there's only 3 playable students from the highlander academy, which I believe is the lowest out of any academy?

[echo oar]

oh but yeah, if you want to be thorough, you can just take those dates and subtract all the gifts from the events that ran between them in global

I didn't skip a single gift

[opaque dagger]

I guess they're representing the Korean bald gamers in NA

[charred crystal]

na

Im not that bald

[opaque dagger]

Ok mr 2 digit

[charred crystal]

sniff sniff

[echo oar]

but I did have a bias for certain node 2 flower variants, like the health food for oshig

[opaque dagger]

Bondmaxxer fr, bro is playing the way he wants to

Anyway, you looking into Boat or Goz Luna?

[echo oar]

I think that's normal once you're past a certain point!!

boat is a hard no, goz is a maybe...

[opaque dagger]

Goz looks insanely doable tbh

[echo oar]

I'd rather wait for bhimari and more swaka farming before committing to boat

[opaque dagger]

Even I'm considering it

[echo oar]

so I can commit less to it

yeah goz looks solid

but it might get out of hand if I slack on stars too much

[opaque dagger]

I think I have more chances at Goz Luna than Shirokuro Urban Tor

[echo oar]

guh

[frozen chasm]

shrkr is a pain in the ass

[orchid axle]

Hi balders

[proper oyster]

I wonder which borrow is better, double B.Aris or double Kei

[opaque dagger]

So far it's been double Kei

[old rose]

double tyuuka is also up there

[opaque dagger]

Kuroko is just that busted on Field, and Ritsu is like, the key enabler

[old rose]

baris isn't actually much better than kuroko here

[echo oar]

ritsu spook next fest

[old rose]

they just take different sets of buffers so you can pretty easily run two teams

[opaque dagger]

Kuroko be like: stop right there Aris, this is my territory

[proper oyster]

I guess double B.Aris is only worth it if you're going for 3pan?

[old rose]

even then maybe not

[opaque dagger]

Eh, you can double Aris Mech 2 team clear

But it's much more crit balding with Aris Mech

[echo oar]

double support is primarily if you already have all the relevant dps's fully built already

[old rose]

aaris is strong but you run out of buffers for her very quickly

[opaque dagger]

Kuroko with Ritsu is probably more consistent, and you can actually grab the non-cost coin

Which is uhhh, was it 30% Dmg Dealt buff?

[echo oar]

speaking from experience, double dps has usually outperformed double support

[true scroll]

[opaque dagger]

Honestly, Ritsu is the one saving Kuroko from irrelevance

[old rose]

not true?

[opaque dagger]

Can she outperform Aris Mech without Ritsu tho

[old rose]

kuroko teams still do a fuck ton without ritsu

[proper oyster]

I do wonder whether having your own T.Yuuka built is an absolute must for Luna Goz

[opaque dagger]

No, Goz Field Luna has many options for teambuilding

So you can afford to borrow Yuuka Track if needed

[lament gyro]

Are you winning

[true scroll]

i just use a sheet

[lament gyro]

What

[echo oar]

embracing the event culture fully, I see

[proper oyster]

I guess I should only spend at most 24k during kisaki banner then and only see potentially getting T.Yuuka as a bonus rather than a must then

[opaque dagger]

Yea, but I looked at Yuzutrends for a bit, Kuroko gets relegated to P1 without Ritsu for the most part

[lament gyro]

Wtf ssg maldpleless

[charred crystal]

yes very casual score

[lament gyro]

[frozen chasm]

isnt 246 pretty easy

[echo oar]

wait I missed that

[lament gyro]

I did 247

[orchid axle]

Rawr

[lament gyro]

[old rose]

yea just for speedrun

[true scroll]

[charred crystal]

Its easy yeah

[frozen chasm]

she will be on immortalization dw

[true scroll]

[opaque dagger]

I mean, there's also the problem of "I gotta optimize my DPS usage if I can only run 3 teams max"

[charred crystal]

Im working with what I have so not very optimal

[echo oar]

@opaque dagger opinion on saki?

[opaque dagger]

If you don't have Ritsu you most likely Kuroko P1 and Aris Mech P2

[true scroll]

it is immortalization that is going right now

[old rose]

well kuroko and aaris demand very very different buffers

[opaque dagger]

And prepare 1 cleanup team

[true scroll]

[lament gyro]

they jammed misaki in for shits and giggles i cant

[frozen chasm]

thats the joke

thanks captain clueless

[true scroll]

not a funny one

[candid gust]

I got 247k

I sleep

[opaque dagger]

Yea but even with different buffers, if Kuroko doesn't clear P2 without Ritsu, it means you either prepare a 3rd team or you swap positions with Aris Mech

[candid gust]

4 units per team, slack.

[lament gyro]

Whaleple just use double nagisa

[echo oar]

just a smattering of extra creds

[lament gyro]

[lament gyro]

[frozen chasm]

funny how they chose to add misaki in

[lament gyro]

jp artists having field day with this

[frozen chasm]

instead of just run the 3 units banner

[opaque dagger]

Her doujins are great, if that's what you're asking

[lament gyro]

What if they spun a wheel and it just so happened to land on misaki

Its like band event

[opaque dagger]

Misaki scam banner anyway when she's farmable

[frozen chasm]

the syunichi one

[old rose]

i mean neither is significantly more common p1 than the other

[echo oar]

I just thought she fit, seeing your bonds haha

[frozen chasm]

give her more bentos

[lament gyro]

[opaque dagger]

Why are you also thinking of the same doujin

[frozen chasm]

cause its peak

[lament gyro]

What is this peak you speak of

[frozen chasm]

its like mentioning a smol davinci dj and everybody thinks about the same one

[frozen chasm]

its author name, search it on nh

[true scroll]

[opaque dagger]

This would honestly be interesting data to analyze, ngl

[ashen goblet]

No dress mutsuki and haruka was the biggest missed opportunity they had

[opaque dagger]

But what I'm trying to do is find P2 Kuroko usages without Ritsu

[frozen chasm]

dress ibuki/iroha

[opaque dagger]

Doesn't seem like there's any

[lament gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-finding-gem-gem-alert-jasswa-looking-for-gem-gif-4573895384736430461

[old rose]

?? there's many

[frozen chasm]

the flashbang

[pallid inlet]

Goz lunatic?

[opaque dagger]

I'm scrolling through so far, 100 pages in and it's all P1 Kuroko

[candid gust]

i supply myself a nagisa

🥀

[echo oar]

I'm not expecting her, but I'm still gonna be disappointed when p.hare isn't made playable

[old rose]

yea cuz ur scrolling thru top 300 clears

[opaque dagger]

Can you actually screenshot one?

Bro I am at 1800 now

And it's still Kuroko P1 Aris Mech P2 with Ritsu excluded

[polar orbit]

wtf why did my text font change

i do not like it

[pallid inlet]

What text

[opaque dagger]

Finally found one, maybe I was scrolling too fast

[polar orbit]

these

[old rose]

this 3 pan is very common

[echo oar]

guh ue60 dps's

[polar orbit]

f2p

[opaque dagger]

So 2 team is mostly: have Ritsu, or Aris Mech P2

[pallid inlet]

I didn’t check but I don’t think my text font changed

[ashen goblet]

Long sausage pillow..

[polar orbit]

it's definitely different right

i'm not insane

[echo oar]

the pillow is so good

your font looks weird...

[pallid inlet]

I think that looks different

[polar orbit]

okay

yeah

why

[pallid inlet]

Did you mess with your settings?

[polar orbit]

not that i know of

[opaque dagger]

But yea if you go into 3 team territory then anything goes

[pallid inlet]

Check your in game settings?

[echo oar]

also is your hoard set for this time?

[polar orbit]

OH

wait

they have actual full screen windowed now

holy crap

[echo oar]

whaaaa

whaaaaaaaaa

[polar orbit]

yoo

[echo oar]

gimme the sauce

[polar orbit]

that might be it

[lament gyro]

but it was gem tho…

[opaque dagger]

Goz is free, look at this lmao

There's 8291 Luna clears in JP

[pallid inlet]

Alt enter

I think

[opaque dagger]

It's no Binah, but that's still an insanely free Luna

[polar orbit]

idk but it's taking up my full screen now. maybe has something to do with the font change

[echo oar]

huh

[polar orbit]

okay nope still just me

[echo oar]

I mean, I can double tap alt enter to switch it back and forth

[lament gyro]

None are you messing with us

[opaque dagger]

Is it on Steam?

[polar orbit]

i am on steam

[echo oar]

but it's always been this way

[polar orbit]

wait you can change the font?

huh

[echo oar]

no back and forth between fullscreen I mean haha

[polar orbit]

oh

[opaque dagger]

Inb4 this is language locale thing

[cyan ether]

i was gonna say

[round kayak]

Eh I think it's a bug when you switch between windowed ratio, happened to me once

[lament gyro]

Nezo!

[cyan ether]

i usually see it with people who have different language on their pc

like german

[lament gyro]

I’m back to 3 digit!!!

[pallid inlet]

Yo nezo

[lament gyro]

[polar orbit]

before this last update, you couldn't have windowed full screen

[pallid inlet]

I jumped up by 2 ranks

[candid gust]

[old rose]

wtf is windowed full screen

[round kayak]

This kaiju 🦖

[round kayak]

As the name implies

[candid gust]

ue50 minori too weak

[polar orbit]

windowed but not like how it was before

[candid gust]

gotta ue60

[old rose]

how is it full screen if its windowed

[echo oar]

actually, what even is the difference really

[lament gyro]

mfw no ligma ue30 mreisa shit eye rng

[idle rampart]

window full screen

[echo oar]

aside from true fullscreen requiring a moment to change resolution or whatever

[lament gyro]

[opaque dagger]

It has the top taskbar with the minimize and close buttons

[polar orbit]

thank you

someone gets it

[echo oar]

oh that

[idle rampart]

not window full screen

[old rose]

nah this isn't full screen this is just normal windowed

and u made the window big

[polar orbit]

it's windowed full screen

[opaque dagger]

There's windowed without full screen and windowed with full screen

[steady prairie]

big enough for full screen

[ashen goblet]

Windowed you have the window view and can close the app from the top right corner. Otherwise it would be borderless fullscreen

[steady prairie]

[polar orbit]

before last update, BA looked like the second picture

[round kayak]

Okay I've done it again lmao

[idle rampart]

full screen

[echo oar]

I mean...

[old rose]

they're all just windowed

[pallid inlet]

[idle rampart]

that's the main point

[tall glacier]

Idk my fonts always looked like the first image

[idle rampart]

windowed

[polar orbit]

you're just windowed

[idle rampart]

😭

[tall glacier]

[opaque dagger]

That is correct, but full screen can be windowed or borderless

Not mutually exclusive

Both things can be true

[old rose]

in my head its two categories:
windowed
full screen

fullscreen implies borderless

[pallid inlet]

[idle rampart]

you know that aspect ratio exist

[echo oar]

[pallid inlet]

Those are all words

[proper oyster]

And how many Luna clears are there in most raids other than Goz on average?

[polar orbit]

no that's full screen borderless

[old rose]

this is the case for like all of the games ive played

[steady prairie]

it's just like calling right parallelogram as rectangle, don't sweat it

[old rose]

in settings you can select windowed or you can select full screen

[round kayak]

Just spam between full screen and border less but switch between 4:3 > full screen > 16:9 in that order in steam

[opaque dagger]

I love how Asumi-chan is literally 2nd in that list

Truly cultured

[echo oar]

mute girl isn't yuri!!

[round kayak]

it's stupid cause I can't see sht under anymore

[old rose]

fewer

[proper oyster]

Is Binah Luna more free than Goz Luna?

[old rose]

by far

[candid gust]

Indeed

[old rose]

luna binah had more clears than tor yesod

lol

[opaque dagger]

It is uh, not even close

[ashen goblet]

Krkg was regarded as one of the most accessible ones and its less than half of that iirc

[candid gust]

F2p

[pallid inlet]

Binah lunatic might be equivalent to a torment in today’s times

[candid gust]

[idle rampart]

another example
windowed because it is 4:3 aspect ratio vs windowed full screen

[echo oar]

ohhh I was thinking of borderless fullscreen earlier

[polar orbit]

done

[round kayak]

Game title?

[polar orbit]

also nice botan anime

or i forget her exact name

but it's the new yuri drunk one

[round kayak]

Oh it's an anime

[polar orbit]

yea

[idle rampart]

Kamiina Botan, a yuri anime

[old rose]

why called full screen when not full screen, i can see the task bar

[novel timber]

i love kamiina botan anime

[polar orbit]

task bar is needed

[opaque dagger]

So most Lunas are 3 digit clears in their debut

• Geburah went to 1k and then 2k in reruns, which makes sense
• Hod Luna debut was 1776 clears, which was by far the easiest Luna at that point
• Goz Luna debut was as difficult as Boat, and that's saying something
• Kurokage with eye nerf + new tools shot it up to 4614 in rerun
• Boat rerun, on the other hand, had 1365 only, so you can see the difficulty diff
• Then we have Goz Field with 8291 and Binah with 24365, so uh, go figure

[novel timber]

very good animr

[idle rampart]

you can hide the task bar if you want

anyway

[opaque dagger]

One third

[idle rampart]

but it's up to preferences

[pallid inlet]

Did the kaitengers evasion get nerfed

[round kayak]

Lovely thanks misaki

[old rose]

also wtf this got an anime

[frozen chasm]

Asumi-Chan Is Interested In Lesbian Brothels!
damn I remember this gem

[old rose]

i remember reading this years back but i dropped it when i transferred manga sites

[orchid axle]

[pallid inlet]

[frozen chasm]

also theres no good manga site left

[echo oar]

I'm still reading it, nanao best girl

[frozen chasm]

everything good is down

[pallid inlet]

You saw nothing

[old rose]

oh fuck this one too

[idle rampart]

😭

[old rose]

i dropped so many manga when my sites died

[idle rampart]

it's still ongoing anyway

[old rose]

🥀

[frozen chasm]

read shimai shimai futari gohan

[proper oyster]

Holy shit, for binah even lunatic wasn't guaranteed plat?

[idle rampart]

JP Binah luna = insane difficulty

[candid gust]

[idle rampart]

that's how easy binah luna is

[candid gust]

plat is plat

i will take it

[opaque dagger]

Yea, slow Ins run was Silver btw, and slow Ext was Bronze

Meanwhile Very Hard Kurokage gets you Gold in Asia

[pallid inlet]

Insanity

[polar orbit]

it has begun

[pallid inlet]

Very slacc

[echo oar]

you're timing your hoard for now???

[idle rampart]

the comparison to other luna is crazy

[polar orbit]

yeah... it's like a 2h buffer right

[pallid inlet]

Hoarding for what

[opaque dagger]

Idol

[echo oar]

isn't it just barely less than 2 hours after the projected min

yeah that

[idle rampart]

Goz's rerun luna is torment difficulty with Aris and Kei debut

[opaque dagger]

She's doing the daily mail forwarding strat

[pallid inlet]

What

[polar orbit]

it's 1am... most maints end at 10pm these days

[opaque dagger]

Also it's Field, both Hinata and Kuroko are SS Field

[proper oyster]

Holy, is Peroro Luna really that hard? Harder than yesod luna?

[echo oar]

fair...

[idle rampart]

investment check yea

[echo oar]

I'm just sketched out by small buffers

[round kayak]

min maxing hoard

[polar orbit]

it felt big in my head

also size doesnt matter

[opaque dagger]

Boat, Goz and Pelolo were brutal on their debut

[pallid inlet]

So bald…

[idle rampart]

plenty much all luna that required investment check is harder than fest check

[candid gust]

phew glad no one notices me

[idle rampart]

Yesod is fest check, Smika and wakamo

[echo oar]

6h buffer is cozy for me

does collecting dailies work out well like that?? I'd never tried it midday

[idle rampart]

while peroro and wakaboat is investment check

[echo oar]

only right around reset

[pallid inlet]

And reading comprehension check

[polar orbit]

it's fine, it just means you dont get to do any sweeping until later

[idle rampart]

hod is also investment check technically but got more leeway than peroro wakaboat

[opaque dagger]

Pelolo you had to be gigakaiju to even do the 5 team clear

[polar orbit]

messes with the brain a bit but that's all

[echo oar]

ahhhh gotcha

[opaque dagger]

Most people went 8-10 teams

That was how brutal it was

[echo oar]

ganbare

[polar orbit]

bed time though

[round kayak]

How much AP profit do you gain from this?

[echo oar]

I'm scared to hear others doing it, especially now that waelba failed it

[polar orbit]

peace

[echo oar]

niiiight

sleep well!

[opaque dagger]

Goz you're hard capped by total number of repo + shielders in-game, you either clear before you run out or you're fucked

[polar orbit]

uhh... ig like 480 since you never cap?

[idle rampart]

I only can do
Yesod
Krkg
Binah
Goz

cause all of them are fest check

[round kayak]

Not bad

[polar orbit]

and you get to bring the weekly ap from the previous week into next week

[round kayak]

That's like 20 more sweeps for the event

[opaque dagger]

Boat is just uhhh...yea kaiju invests, or another 6-8 team Luna

[polar orbit]

ya

[idle rampart]

my account is meta check so investment check is my biggest wall

[echo oar]

I think you do technically cap for a bit, unless I'm remembering it wrong...

[polar orbit]

as long as my hoard doesnt expire ill be able to give you a number

[candid gust]

[polar orbit]

uh maybe idk

[echo oar]

but it's not a full 48 hours capped like the usual hoard

[polar orbit]

[candid gust]

ballin

[idle rampart]

wakaboat 3rd rerun will be doable for me cause free ue60 swakamo

as well as bhimari

[candid gust]

very ballin

[opaque dagger]

At the time of release, Goz, Pelolo and Boat were roster breadth and depth checks

[candid gust]

definitely ballin

[echo oar]

I don't know how it works when you set it close to after maint haha

so I'm typically capped for 12h

[candid gust]

[opaque dagger]

It's not like Kurokage where "oh I got the invests for 2 superteam clears wheeeee"

[candid gust]

[idle rampart]

goz, kei and maris

[candid gust]

test

ok good

[old rose]

yea first run goz was peak

[idle rampart]

binah, honestly they just nerfed binah so hard

that you don't even need to invest anything except bhimari

[lament gyro]

Peav

[old rose]

cutaha, xserina, sakurako, etc. seeing use

[lament gyro]

Can you add me back…

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1485156131402678332/1485155829970636882.webp

[candid gust]

AYUKAAJU

[echo oar]

the marathon lunas were real inspiring to see

[opaque dagger]

You literally had to throw your entire Blue roster at it

[old rose]

peak

[spice basin]

OH never thought of that

[echo oar]

magic's a little gone with the past couple being so easy though

[opaque dagger]

Unless you have the 3 superteam setup

[lament gyro]

wtf why is your friend id a yu kaiju bro

[echo oar]

I'm hoping they ramp it back up for the last few lunas

[old rose]

i remembered they moved sizuna rerun to after luna goz debut for global

[opaque dagger]

Shirokuro is fucked regardless because of Aris Mech

[echo oar]

lmao I remember that

[opaque dagger]

The others are a tossup

[old rose]

nah just make srkr hard enough to account for aaris

[opaque dagger]

Then it's gonna be a bs Luna

[old rose]

i mean lunas are already built assuming u have the best fest dps for it

[candid gust]

Kaaju not kaiju

[round kayak]

just make shiro throw balls in all lanes but it happens on the start

[candid gust]

not my fault

[round kayak]

[old rose]

like oh no luna krkg is balanced around shanako!

[round kayak]

Forced to bring a cover or you'll get fcked

[opaque dagger]

Also give Shirokuro 200% Piercing Eff to kill off Boshi

[lament gyro]

Same thing

[echo oar]

make units completely immune to damage under cover

[severe steeple]

R you a Kaaju?

[round kayak]

binah 2.0 wallai...

[candid gust]

let gpd do its thing

[severe steeple]

it is inevitable

[candid gust]

no they are talking about lunatic

[opaque dagger]

I still don't know how they'll balance Chesed Luna, but Kaiten/Hiero should be interesting

[candid gust]

and i can't do any

[proper oyster]

What if it is this Shirokuro: #🔰gameplay-help message

[lament gyro]

Shian peav will never live down the fact that his friend code has kaiju built into it

[proper oyster]

300M+ hp luna lulw

[lament gyro]

[severe steeple]

I haven't cleared a single luna either

[severe steeple]

wait what which one

[lament gyro]

lvl 69 luna clear when

[lament gyro]

The one on his profile

[severe steeple]

when misery difficulty is released

[lament gyro]

Its close enough

[tall glacier]

They still gotta release all lun first

[round kayak]

hiero luna next?

[echo oar]

kether

[proper oyster]

I wonder how much HP it would have, 100M?

[opaque dagger]

You think we getting new raid or new Luna or neither this Sunday

[old rose]

luna binah 2, electric boogaloo

[tall glacier]

There's so many specific units for hiero

[old rose]

neither give me luna greg rerun

[echo oar]

do it for none

[opaque dagger]

No, I do not want to see that stupid conductor

[echo oar]

she's been waiting so long

[opaque dagger]

That is quite possibly the one and only raid I cannot clear on Insane

[old rose]

bro greg bgm goes so hard

[echo oar]

you might be able to with s.ichika 👀