💬gameplay-discussion

[empty verge]

will just jot it down

[candid gust]

mreisa huh?

[empty verge]

mreisa is for p1

[tidal tree]

Aiming to improve this to 27.7M but not even sure that stays

[candid gust]

oh ok

csena gaming

[untold tusk]

1 Torment 2 Insane is likely not platinum on jp GA yes or?

[candid gust]

not 100% plat

[covert spoke]

not plat

definitely gold

[copper surge]

Took 10% of Kurokage HP

Mission completed, I can rest now

[covert spoke]

oh actually

[frozen birch]

So what’s after Kurokage again

[covert spoke]

a really fast double insane and torment might be plat

[woven sigil]

kaiten

[steep vortex]

wtf jp slacc?

[empty verge]

kaiten (free raid)

[woven sigil]

[frozen birch]

Right. Yellow tor which is just UNeru and ST only

[old rose]

no blue kaiten...

[woven sigil]

ins?

[old rose]

tor

[frozen birch]

It’s yellow and standard red for torments yeah?

[covert spoke]

very slow

[old rose]

i need my revenge

[empty verge]

yes

[old rose]

got cooked by blue tor kaiten last time

[woven sigil]

I was r101 because no daru

[frozen birch]

And then blue insane?

[wanton pilot]

Maybe this can do f106
30s left on clock

[covert spoke]

cant see the damn stars man

[west perch]

akane?

[old rose]

what in the akane

[wanton pilot]

stars here sry

this is the hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiuJgb6jxlY

[west perch]

no way, is that akane breaking trigger

[wanton pilot]

no csaya activates ballista lmfao

[old rose]

bring akane just for trigger

[woven sigil]

[old rose]

oh lol

[old rose]

what shes just there for cycle?

[wanton pilot]

ig lol

does this guy have really low def?

[lament gyro]

WHAT THE FUCK HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF AGAIN

[old rose]

chok has some def

[candid gust]

not even 40M

🥀

[woven sigil]

650

[old rose]

not particularly a lot tho

[west perch]

i guess it's something?

[copper surge]

Basically a wanpan (jk)

[lament gyro]

peav shaddap you're not even 40m

[candid gust]

i do lun instead

[west perch]

it is a reijolet thing. if it's viable, it's viable

[candid gust]

wcyd

[west perch]

very cool that works

[old rose]

i'll wait for imari to try higher chok

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

[atomic arrow]

[woven sigil]

next yellow chok is 124

He stands no chance vs himari

[empty verge]

if lvl 79 kasumi survives, should i just leave her like that? i can raise kikyou more instead

[torn thorn]

psure i used like

[empty verge]

i can upgrade gloves, enhanced and ue40 her if i ignore kasumi

[torn thorn]

yeah this was some old tor

lv85 prob not fully geared kasumi lol

[candid gust]

kasumi deals more dmg than kikyou keep in mind

[torn thorn]

as long as ur healing, it doesnt really matter

as long as shes not like lv50 lol

[west perch]

those are some comps eh

[empty verge]

shes 79...

ran out of activity reports

[old rose]

if she lives thats all u need

her damage is pretty irrelevant unless ur coping with her for damage

[torn thorn]

this was from literally a year ago according to my records

[empty verge]

yeah but if i have bad luck with the first team and i dont crit with momiji either, i need to throw in boshi to get it to 92

[torn thorn]

dont really remmeber what i was doping for it tbh lmao

[woven sigil]

I remember following Nekuro's HW for GA krkg tor, where his 3* cHare survived ATG because boss missed the explosion while cHare was pulled inside Atsuko's smoke grenade range with 12,5% chance

[lament gyro]

revenge

fuck krkg and his stupid fucking eyes

[copper surge]

1m improvement, basically rank 1 😛

[torn thorn]

i just remember not really wanting to run the imari comp

lol

[empty verge]

ue60 chare vs ue60 hikari... strongest f2p in history vs strongest f2p of today

[woven sigil]

iMari didn't exist back then...😟

[torn thorn]

?

this was april 2025

she shouldve been out by then right

[frozen birch]

Your CHare must be very comfy on survival

[torn thorn]

maybe im getting it mixed up with one of the TA reruns

[lament gyro]

surprise, it isnt

its same as hw

the stupid eyes keep going for aru and chare specifically

[woven sigil]

You do

This was GA

Only CN server got iMari for GA krkg

[torn thorn]

oh lol

then yeah idr what i was doing for that one

[torn thorn]

but i mean, no hikari so

just bring cherino for extra regen lmao

[empty verge]

just realized you can buy 20 gifts for 2000 pyrox

i could have b50'd shanako

[candid gust]

20 random gifts

[covert spoke]

I think i just 3 panned that with koharu hanako and scuffed atsuko team

[empty verge]

fuck

[candid gust]

[woven sigil]

random gifts

[empty verge]

scam

[woven sigil]

[tidal tree]

Wait... Decided to mock tor and this looks doable???

[empty verge]

the gear materials arent too expensive tho

better than refreshing

[candid gust]

uhhhhh get out of p2 asap bruh

[tidal tree]

I know someone died but I think i can do it??

[candid gust]

yea?

looks like it

[tidal tree]

Screw speedrunning ins

[covert spoke]

is that the second shanako

[lament gyro]

[tidal tree]

I borrowed Kisaki so I'd be scratching the bottom of the barrel for a 2pan

[covert spoke]

its probably fine

[lament gyro]

fun fact, you'd be above rank 3000s

:)

[covert spoke]

boshi p1 and shanako p23

[tidal tree]

That's insane!—I mean torment!

[old rose]

[torn thorn]

??? bro u have like all the units

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

[sharp dome]

torment dead already 🧱

[candid gust]

let bro cook

[torn thorn]

just bring a preteam

and then a bhosh cleanup team

if u cant afford 2 proper shanako teams

[lament gyro]

sympathys for you kr balders

[covert spoke]

how do u play like this

[tidal tree]

Is bosh better for cleanup or getting past p1?

[torn thorn]

or do bhosh preteam like that GA tor i showed earlier

[old rose]

in terms of buffs, we have no buffs

[torn thorn]

like, im pretty sure for that clear i cleare all of p1 with b hosh

[covert spoke]

theyre hidden

[torn thorn]

or at least pretty close

[candid gust]

P1 and p3

[west perch]

depends on what you need 20m damage for

[candid gust]

So yuh

depends

[tidal tree]

I was just fucking around after chare died

[lament gyro]

Fun fact, quad tank is really funny

[empty verge]

i hate this pvp season

[candid gust]

Fun fact, yuuka solo is a thing

[empty verge]

i skip all fights

[torn thorn]

@echo oar i will punch u

[lament gyro]

I love it

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1474640123961544806/hikaripunch.gif

[covert spoke]

i mean like.. just checking your buffs are visible right

[lament gyro]

Mogged

[covert spoke]

if u were just not pressing buttons bc dead run mb mb

[empty verge]

cleanup?

bald harder, sensei

[halcyon latch]

Torment is free

[torn thorn]

i can definitely do 3pan

or like 3.1pan

also spent too long on my preteam because i wasnt 100% sure on the hp thresholds

but im pretty sure i can get away with starting at 153M

maybe even 154M

[empty verge]

im gonna test my lvl 79 kasumi

[covert spoke]

how have u not cleared when u have every unit

[torn thorn]

actually

if im confident in the 3pan

that means i can just

use bhosh for the pretean

should be faster than smika surely

smika takes like a solid 2-3 minutes

[copper surge]

What is the number for boss transition? 120m?

[torn thorn]

119.6 or something

[old rose]

.7

6 7

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1485156131402678332/1485155829970636882.webp

[torn thorn]

[snow portal]

FUCK THIS RAID AHHHHHHH

Never doing that again

[polar orbit]

i sense some cap

your question was answered. we told you to pick hibiki

i am invisible

[snow portal]

Never wanna touch Lunatic again

[covert spoke]

you'll be back for binah

[atomic arrow]

good job 🙂

[copper surge]

I found out Chupo does not like the dark dimension 🙁

[polar orbit]

binah lunament

[copper surge]

but can I do it without chupo? 🤔

[old rose]

more luna binah clears than tor yesod lmao

[polar orbit]

binah's gonna have tor cutoff for sure

except maybe asia

[snow portal]

Yes, but it's even more bald

[covert spoke]

hold on

wait a minute

[copper surge]

surely, there is nothing wrong with this at all

[covert spoke]

whats the number on imari and mine

a f2p invest?

[candid gust]

there is

kikyou and mine

[copper surge]

they overlap?

[covert spoke]

imari and imari

[candid gust]

Ex yes

[woven sigil]

with ue60 specials you can use sSeia

[young lotus]

NA better have lunatic cutoff for plat

[copper surge]

Man... the team without Kisaki really suffers. Like is too Kuyoshi.

[odd geyser]

we f2p are here to stay

[copper surge]

Game needs 2 Kisakis

[old rose]

sseia:

[copper surge]

One that does not die!

[old rose]

sseia lives if you have ue60 specials

[ripe mason]

I Failed the 2pan again for my daily clear smh

[odd geyser]

you had 2pan time at least

[torn thorn]

i think i can prob get the 3pan

so much easier after i ditched the dogshit 1:10 hw lol

[slate sky]

@frozen birch rare shun (big) art

[atomic arrow]

I recognize that artstyle

[young lotus]

Big shun is the superior shun

[old rose]

is hit two souls with no def debuffs or hit one soul with mine's def debuff more damage

i'm too lazy to calc it but surely hitting two is more damage

[pallid inlet]

You know what we really need?

[copper surge]

guys... i failed, this was my 3rd team 🙁

[empty verge]

lvl 79 kasumi... survives...

[torn thorn]

wtf bhosh

tf are u cooking...

[pallid inlet]

Burning the kitchen

[torn thorn]

like ur wasting bhosh on a single target def debuff

when she could be fielded on another team

that can do like 15m damage in p3

[copper surge]

mmm, true... gonna think about in round 2

[torn thorn]

like bhosh p3 is super fucking free

once ur out of p2 the raid's done

[covert spoke]

is there anyone with a maxed kirara

[torn thorn]

😟

[atomic arrow]

🙁

[copper surge]

last team, will improve later

[old rose]

p2 or p3?

[covert spoke]

think thats way too slow

[old rose]

hanako solo can't support a team in p2

[covert spoke]

u would want to replace renge or momiji in that team

[ashen goblet]

Yeah that dies

[copper surge]

yup... well, this is mostly a test run (also, Momiji is hard to heal standign in the back)

maybe?

[torn thorn]

….is this supposed to be going into p2 at ~70m dmg? Leading from ur last screenshot?

or is this ur p3 cleanup team

if the former.. Gws

[copper surge]

This survive but does no dmg. I guess its back to the drawing board.

[frozen birch]

ugh its on a GuitarRock video. But...eh

Normal Shun is Normal Shun

[polar orbit]

[torn thorn]

Yeah u really want to get most of p2 in one team lol

[copper surge]

The teams I used... gonna shuffle some stuff around.

[torn thorn]

Can groggy setup with a Momiji team if needed

[lilac solar]

guys what do I do with smoe

[frozen birch]

my Momiji team can only do 1 mil its sad

[ancient star]

You enjoy her relationship story

[frozen birch]

i really just need to have more healers and some more built damage atp

[torn thorn]

How much is the ichika team doing

[frozen birch]

but it'll have to wait until next Kurokage

[torn thorn]

Smika can chunk out a lot of damage in p1

[copper surge]

Smoe name remind me of this

[frozen birch]

I just am hoping i dont get kicked out of plat

cause NA rn is risking torment cutoff

[lilac solar]

what score did you get?

[copper surge]

16m I believe. Maybe a bit more.

[frozen birch]

rn 39.7 mil, imma try for at least 39.9 mil tomorrow

[lilac solar]

I only have a 39.5m

[polar orbit]

i only have 39.93m

[torn thorn]

Do you have a second Shanako team?

[lilac solar]

I'll try upscoring when I get back home from my vacation

[polar orbit]

btw happy birthday cocoa san

[frozen birch]

also i have 39.7 mil with 2pan which is alright

[odd geyser]

[frozen birch]

what is trex about that

39.7 mil with twopan cause each team was 2 mins or less

[worldly sun]

Not sure who your borrow is but you should plan around double shanako. Raid is 10x harder if you try to avoid this

[lilac solar]

score higher than mine = gigawhel

[odd geyser]

i only have 52.98

what is trex about that

[copper surge]

I know, but cooking something diff is half of the fun

[past spruce]

Time to farm shop now

[copper surge]

If only my oNodoka was better. Big sad.

[torn thorn]

If you have unlimited resources to build other purple dps, sure

[lilac solar]

i should o my nodoka

[past spruce]

I just got her today

[worldly sun]

Ideally you want 1st shana to do most of p1 and start p2, optional setup before and optional groggy setup after, then your second shana power team gets double groggy and does most of the rest of the raid at least into p3, optional cleanup once out of p3

[past spruce]

[copper surge]

I just need to replace chupo here.... I dont want to deal with her going into p2

[torn thorn]

I’m F2P so I’m forced to follow optimal teams and build as few extra units as possible

[pallid inlet]

I think f104 is too easy

I still entered p2 right as second ballistas are ready

[worldly sun]

Otherwise you’ll want to try to achieve everything up to groggy setup without shanako and use shanako for the power only

[torn thorn]

managed to make it out of krkg with only Daru ue30 (from 4*) and a few straggler gear upgrades

[worldly sun]

Which is like +2-3 teams

In which you’re probably running out of good healers

[torn thorn]

yeah you want to be around 95m at the absolute most

[worldly sun]

Daru 3* worked fine for me

[torn thorn]

Before going in with Shanako

[torn thorn]

I’m comfy

[frozen birch]

lol

[worldly sun]

If shanako power doesn’t get you out of p2 you’re kinda cooked

[torn thorn]

I mean his team should be fine I think

to make it out of p2

assuming proper groggy setup

[lilac solar]

fury

[frozen birch]

yeah ive learned that if your 2nd SHanako team cant exit p2 you have no more options for p2

groggy setup teams last 1 min

cause no healing

[worldly sun]

But once you’re out assuming you still have bosh p3 is free

[lilac solar]

hmm i never thought of forfeiting right at p2 start

[half scaffold]

bro became petroleum

[frozen birch]

yeah my current brick is mostly lacking teams ahead of time but also entry into p2 with 1st SHanako team

[half scaffold]

bro is doing classic krkg luna clear

[worldly sun]

What have you got so far

[odd geyser]

I’m F2P so I’m forced to follow optimal teams and build as few extra units as possible

[frozen birch]

i can consistently make it INTO p2 with the TL im using

[pallid inlet]

My reijo just died to the missiles

Now that’s what I’m talking about

[frozen birch]

but once im in P2 its rng whether i get enough damage to setup groggy

due SHanako or IMari getting confused

[pallid inlet]

F106 is where it’s at

[worldly sun]

Plan around a groggy setup team

Momiji team can do a good 10-15m in p2

[frozen birch]

hm

[torn thorn]

Making it into p2 is easy…

the problem is

Chunking p2 down to ~95m hp

[empty verge]

guhh ig im consistnt with it

[frozen birch]

exiting it

yeah no its just about groggy setup

[torn thorn]

I’m just running the 1:39 entry team

[empty verge]

15? 🤨

[worldly sun]

Eg I don’t have imari so koharu on first team only gets me to 104m
Then momiji kasumi takes down to 92m ready for setup with main shanako team
Depending how that goes bosh cleanup is available p3

[torn thorn]

with a pre team doing like 5-6m damage

[frozen birch]

my Momiji is terrible since 4*

[torn thorn]

to make up for the fact that I’m using ue50 Shanako

[half scaffold]

can you show your tl you're using

?

[worldly sun]

I used 4* too

[empty verge]

this team does between 8 and 12 for me

[worldly sun]

She still does about 1m per hit with ibuki/nyf and kasumi

[torn thorn]

😟

[frozen birch]

it is a little mald cause it includes reset if dont enter p2 by a certain point

[half scaffold]

iwak

[torn thorn]

why u burning imari on groggy setup

[half scaffold]

imari

[worldly sun]

Wasting imari on a groggy setup

[polar orbit]

we all asked the same question dw

[copper surge]

Silly team doing their best performance

[torn thorn]

😟

[halcyon latch]

https://tenor.com/view/shiroko-iwak-seikanashi-blue-archive-blueaca-gif-12576967082864112841

[odd geyser]

wasting purples in p1 when he doesn't wanna run super team

[empty verge]

where do you want me to use her

[odd geyser]

😟

[empty verge]

i dont have himari

[frozen birch]

no Kasumi so thats semi cooked

[worldly sun]

There’s other options

[frozen birch]

Anyways @half scaffold there

[empty verge]

for the second team, i dont know what else to run tbh, momiji is squishy

[torn thorn]

Don’t trust this he

Hw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

all my homies hate 1:10 entry..

[half scaffold]

i meant do you have youtube video that you're originally basing it off of

?

[frozen birch]

little diff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hluUz5kfNrg

[torn thorn]

1:10 entry hw actually so dogshit

[frozen birch]

connor gave me the rot

[half scaffold]

I followed that exact guide

uh

[odd geyser]

you won't escape p2 using your purples there with how you wanna play the raid

[half scaffold]

what are your invests?

[torn thorn]

if you don’t crit you need a preteam AND a groggy setup team

[frozen birch]

two UE60 SHanako

[worldly sun]

Crystark used this for his groggy setup team, although he had an extra team p1 before using shanako so I’m not sure how much this one did

[half scaffold]

wb supports

[frozen birch]

UE50 Ako UE40 Himari

[worldly sun]

Mreisa is there as he had csena for power

Oshig is what most people use on this team

[frozen birch]

the bigger gate is that my Mine self heals all compulsion on herself for p1 tbh

[ashen goblet]

So 🐳 Imari becomes a groggy bodythrow

[frozen birch]

i would if she was UE40

[frozen birch]

or at least UE30 cope

[worldly sun]

Ue30 might work

[torn thorn]

run this comfy hw

[covert spoke]

this one can do 17m if you swap mari for niya

[worldly sun]

Or just bite the bullet

[torn thorn]

just needs 1 preteam

to take out about 5-6m damage

[covert spoke]

otherwise closer to 12

[half scaffold]

okay your rotation now totally makes sense

since I used the same as that s.hosh video guy

[frozen birch]

well thats my Momiji on pre-team 1

[half scaffold]

but some of your times are bit different than the original

[covert spoke]

thats way too low

[worldly sun]

I think it’s better to not pre team if you don’t have to

[frozen birch]

yeah thats only what, 1 mil?

[copper surge]

One day, I'll get 3m with this team, but not today

[covert spoke]

thats 5m minus fox dmg

[half scaffold]

is your issue phase 1 > 2 transitions?

[frozen birch]

well my Momiji sucks so thats a given

[hollow obsidian]

I FINALLY DID IT IN A MOCK BATTLE HOLY SHIT

[copper surge]

I can get this team into p2, but Chupo dies eventually, but I dont have a sub

[worldly sun]

I used 4* m777 999

[torn thorn]

im dumb, are damage numbers reported with an extra 0 or somethig?

[half scaffold]

because I always get the phase transition for my rotation

[worldly sun]

Didn’t feel I needed to raise her further

[torn thorn]

oh

its cuz of the

souls isnt it

[covert spoke]

swap ichika for uneru if ur using all that

[frozen birch]

the minion damage ye

[worldly sun]

Unless I wanted setup team to go faster but no reason

[covert spoke]

damage is doubled on the sheet

[copper surge]

Isnt UNeru single target? No way she is better.

[torn thorn]

smika

[covert spoke]

shes not better but ur ichika is like 3444 t6 or something

and uneru can do 6m

[torn thorn]

if u wanna save bosh for cleanup, smika can shred p1

as long as u keep her alive

[frozen birch]

i can rush an Ichika for pre team 1 maybe

instead of Momiji

[covert spoke]

my ichika momiji smika together does 32m over 3 teams

but has renge too

[torn thorn]

my smika can deal like more than 10m on pre-team1

prob like 11-12m maxed

[frozen birch]

problem is survival there

so i dont really have an option for that

[torn thorn]

but i only take her to 6m for timing for subsequent teams

serina

[covert spoke]

surival is all fixed by shoving them over to the side

[torn thorn]

can pull her out of the way

[tropic anchor]

Absolute cinema

[torn thorn]

yeah

crystark showed his scuffed smika comp earlerir

[halcyon latch]

That looks cursed

Hm damage did you have to deal with that body throw?

[frozen birch]

Renge just does no damage so thats funny

[gritty laurel]

about 5m apparently

[half scaffold]

I follow almost exact same rotation as you so this is very strange

[gritty laurel]

holee shit

[worldly sun]

I think it’s worth seeing how far you can get without preteaming p1. See what your first shana gets to and if you’re within 10m or it shouldn’t be an issue

[half scaffold]

[torn thorn]

yeah tihs is what i did lol

[frozen birch]

it just has problems going into p2, not getting there, but once im in there cause it gets to rng

[torn thorn]

ran shanako team without a preteam to becnhmark how much more id need to get to transition

[worldly sun]

159>104, 104>92, 92>10, 10>0

[tropic anchor]

I managed to fix the P1 and P2 issues by reacting better when healing and making sure to force repositions in P2, per Toraemon's advice

[frozen birch]

if IMari takes too many eyes for example, she gets confused about 10 seconds into p2

[torn thorn]

?

[worldly sun]

And setup team is quitting like like 1-2 mins left

[frozen birch]

cause IMari doesnt self heal enough and im not guaranteed Ako basic on her

[torn thorn]

i have never gotten imari confused unless i majorly fuck something uip

lol

[frozen birch]

its if the eyes alternate too much

[tropic anchor]

Now I just need to do it for real

Maybe later

[torn thorn]

luna eyes arent rng

so like

[copper surge]

I am starting to hear voices in my head....

[torn thorn]

that shouldnt really be an issue

[torn thorn]

? 4* is fine

[frozen birch]

they do bounce back is all. my IMari just took too many

[torn thorn]

just make sure her gear is upgraded

[copper surge]

I am not following the homework so she dies eventually.

[tropic anchor]

Ibuki was completely out of range the whole time

Maybe I should put someone else there

[half scaffold]

does your i.mari have t10 health, max hp subskill and lb25 hp?

[frozen birch]

oh, i know, what are your positions cause when my Hikari or IMari get eye theres splash

onto each other

[worldly sun]

Not sure if you showed your first shana team? I think imari is easier to use on first team if you have mreisa/csena for p2 shana

[atomic arrow]

-#

[worldly sun]

Imari in p2 is a bit harder to manage due to the team wide passive compulsion

[frozen birch]

ah that explains it

[worldly sun]

Yeah this seemed to be the easiest team set

[frozen birch]

no overlap

[torn thorn]

i mean most of ur heals should be going to her

[worldly sun]

From what I found

[torn thorn]

with the occasional shanako heal

[half scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/shupogaki-blue-archive-blue-sechi-hikari-highlander-gif-6247871329519805000

[frozen birch]

Cause my IMari is fine

so it was positions then, alright

[copper surge]

I just need someone who does not die for now

[frozen birch]

there's the actual teams

[worldly sun]

That should be a straight run

[frozen birch]

lemme see about the pre team setup then

cause the rot Archer gave needs a preteam 1

[worldly sun]

With own ue60 shanako she probably setups groggy on her own

[torn thorn]

i mean yeah thats pmuch what i ran.

just follow the hw i sent

and it should be fairly straightforward

[random lake]

agh

[torn thorn]

yeah

no need for preteam if shanako ue60

well

can still preteam like 2-3m dmg to cut down on the crit requirement

but its not strictly necessary

[worldly sun]

Worst case you might be a couple mil short in which case just momiji

[torn thorn]

i need to preteam 5-6m cuz ue50

[frozen birch]

lemme try hang on

[torn thorn]

ima try to mock a 3pan

for some reason im having some consistency issues with the 2nd shanako team

[frozen birch]

does it help that my Mine self heals her own compulsion in p1 entirely i imagine so

[torn thorn]

you sohuldnt be healing mine at all

[frozen birch]

cause each Mine ex is 10k x 3 heal ticks

[lament gyro]

You could 1pan tor with this…

[torn thorn]

she should be topping up with self heals and ako/mari basics

[torn thorn]

tor 😟

and obviously like dont let too many wolves hit her

[worldly sun]

Every akoji lands on mine so she doesn’t need help

[torn thorn]

heals go exclusively to hikari and occasioanly shanako

[ashen goblet]

you can 2 pan lunatic with that

[torn thorn]

the p1 is genuinely very straightforward as long as you preteam the right amount to transition at the right time

[copper surge]

oh, maybe if I put chupo in the corner she is eyed less?

[torn thorn]

of course if you preteamed too much dmg you can always just not hit all the souls

[lament gyro]

Ih for real?

[ashen goblet]

I believe with imari, yeah

[old rose]

its the standard 2 pan lol

[torn thorn]

yes

just needs ue60 shanako

on the first team

well, on both taems lol

but it presumes you have ur own ue60 shanako

but it's very easy to adapt into a 3 or 4 pan

with preteam and bhosh cleanup if necessary

[old rose]

boshi...

[half scaffold]

2 pan hair loss

[torn thorn]

like literally just do whatever for p1 that can shave off like 5-6m damage

then bhosh cleanup is actually free

[ashen goblet]

get a wig so you can bald longer

[half scaffold]

👴

[torn thorn]

im gonna try doing a bhosh preteam and close out with the 2nd shanako team

just need to get the timings on that team down

[steep vortex]

[ashen goblet]

Im not gonna try anything ever again, this clear was my peak, i retire

[half scaffold]

bro is retiring before doing all lunatics smh

[ashen goblet]

They will all become trivial by next year and a new difficulty will release.

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

that’s why gotta do kaiten Luna debut!!!!!

[half scaffold]

we haven't even gotten luna hiero

smh

[torn thorn]

that will be the peak of my BA career

[halcyon latch]

What is next GA?

[frozen birch]

@torn thorn alright, i need a preteam, just tried

[torn thorn]

just do Smika

[half scaffold]

you can retire after clearing all luna bosses

[torn thorn]

[half scaffold]

😈

[frozen birch]

so what do i do for SMika throw i guess....

[torn thorn]

pull her out of the way with serina

or

overkill it with csena lol

if I get the 3pan

It will in fact be one more raid csena sits out of

[random lake]

is there no hanako #3?

[torn thorn]

actual fraud unit..

[random lake]

i really need someone as strong

[torn thorn]

only for cope Luna throws…

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

[random lake]

how strong is ichika

[halcyon latch]

10m body throw

[random lake]

during p2?

[torn thorn]

how built is ichika is the question

[frozen chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-id-win-nah-id-bunny-jujutsu-kaisen-bunny-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-18147311268825624683

[torn thorn]

Like it doesn’t matter how strong ichika is if ur ichika is 3* 3777 t6 gear

[random lake]

lvl 50 1111

[torn thorn]

[summer dew]

hmm, i threw a random bs team for p1 to deal 2m in 10 sec to save 20sec on normal team

[torn thorn]

hence my point

[random lake]

i could try to build her before TA over

but if shes not enough then no point

[copper surge]

ooooh... I dont believe it!

[frozen birch]

luckily Ichika enhance skill is useless so dont need to level that

[torn thorn]

3* skilled and geared ichika should be sufficient for groggy control

and maybe some p1 throw if you need it

[frozen birch]

accuracy, lmao

[torn thorn]

T9 😟

[random lake]

how much groggy can she control

[frozen chasm]

what did we get the extra ticket for again

[torn thorn]

Last night maint lol

Dunno wgat they actually fixed

[frozen chasm]

I know, I meant to ask what was the issue

[novel timber]

score for today

[torn thorn]

Don’t think there were patch notes

[atomic arrow]

think more

[polar orbit]

thinking is a gacha player's second least favorite thing

[lament gyro]

Reading is a gacha player’s least favorite activity

[polar orbit]

yes

[copper siren]

This is BA general

[atomic arrow]

malding is my least favorite 🛌

[frozen chasm]

damn

the improved auto craft

is saving me

[torn thorn]

Oh lol was this the challenge thing

[atomic arrow]

it's very epic

[atomic arrow]

yaw

[half scaffold]

is team 1 or team 2 harder for kurokage?

[torn thorn]

so we were actually supposed to get double pyros?

[frozen chasm]

2

[atomic arrow]

don't think so, unless it's some super secret acceleration compensation

[torn thorn]

Depend on ur goal

[frozen chasm]

cause team 2 had to start during p2 (if you couldnt get out of p2 with 1st team)

[torn thorn]

if you don’t care about closing out the raid with team 2, it’s fairly straightforward

[frozen birch]

@torn thorn alright my preteam 1 does 7 mil

[torn thorn]

cuz with the rot I sent, getting out of p2 is pretty easy

[frozen chasm]

starting during p2 is so annoying

[torn thorn]

but I’m having trouble finishing it out

[half scaffold]

I see

[torn thorn]

You also don’t want to do too much

because then ur p2 entry timing will be off

ofc you can adjust by hitting fewer souls

but entering at the right time is important

otherwise it fucks up ur heals

also don’t want to do too much dmg with the first Shanako team for the same reason

otherwise groggy threshold for mreisa team will be off

lol

92m ideal

[frozen birch]

it ended at 152.9 mil so should be fine

[half scaffold]

93.5M also good

[frozen birch]

the preteam i mean

then main team 1

[half scaffold]

just open with m.reisa at 9 cost

[torn thorn]

Yeah anywhere from 92-95ish should be doable

[half scaffold]

i wish kurokage didnt have immunity in phase transition

its pretty annoying

[gritty laurel]

yea

there would have been better strats on throwing dps without it

but i dont mind strategizing when i come against it

[frozen birch]

i guess so, but if i cant consistently get into p2 with just the one team then im cooked cause the preteam cant survive in p2

hardest part about the rot is getting Hikari off at ideal times cause her ex takes 2-3 seconds

[torn thorn]

[torn thorn]

If u can’t get into p2 with the first shanako team then something has went seriously wrong lol

[frozen birch]

at least not consistently without a pre team

[torn thorn]

ya I’m just saying u don’t want to preteam too much

Because you want to enter p2 at a specific time

[copper surge]

Maybe this team can survive without MReisa? Or am I coping?

[zealous tusk]

As a joke, it worked better than I thought

don't think this will work past extreme though

[half scaffold]

that works for insane

[worldly sun]

You only need one “good” healer per team (imari/csena/mreisa/oshig/koharu)

[half scaffold]

[frozen birch]

ye most recent attempt, 2 mil off so its just a bit of crit mald i guess

[half scaffold]

probably would work for torment in fact

if this level 69 guy can do 1 pan torment
https://youtu.be/IwkhWSiDIR8?si=TWc3Hy-8HAtOXPIQ

[old rose]

"this level 69 guy"

[atomic arrow]

@severe steeple you're being summoned

[polar orbit]

bro this lvl 69 guy

[astral fern]

Yo this lvl69 guy

[half scaffold]

i know

[worldly sun]

Kid named 69 guy

[half scaffold]

makes more sense than @ shi-an ping

[frozen birch]

yeah another attempt, 2 mil off

yikes

[severe steeple]

yes, what do you need to know?

[frozen birch]

so a preteam will mess up the p2 entry but im shy 2 mil so its just crit malding @torn thorn

good to know

[half scaffold]

@severe steeple could this guy clear torment with this team?

[atomic arrow]

you're the levl 69 guy

[halcyon latch]

The legend

[severe steeple]

Would need a 2-pan at least with a level 80 DPS, but where's the borrow?

[torn thorn]

You could also just

Preteam more

And intentionally miss some of the souls to adjust entry

[frozen birch]

ah got it, into p2 without preteam

[half scaffold]

oh I meant if guy was using ue60 lvl 90 max borrow

[torn thorn]

no

Like

Do more dmg on the preteam

And if it’s too much

[zealous tusk]

no borrows I refuse to borrow

[torn thorn]

adjust 1st Shanako team

[empty verge]

the borrower is slave to the lender

[zealous tusk]

I will desperately and foolishly claw my way into torment using my own students (and most likely fail but still)

[torn thorn]

to intentionally miss some souls so you still enter at the same time

[empty verge]

i dont wanna learn superteam

[torn thorn]

no borrow torment is easy

[empty verge]

lazy

[half scaffold]

good luck 👍

if i did that I'd probably be a gold player

[torn thorn]

pmuch all tors can be 1pan atp anyways

[steep vortex]

basically all of them but yesod and boat

[torn thorn]

it’s just a matter of

Can you afford it lol

like at this point in the games life no borrow tor is just a unit/investment check

[zealous tusk]

Me suffering from eternal everything drought, even normal currency........

[severe steeple]

Possibly, but both at the point that someone refuses to borrow, they're pretty much accepting that people aren't going to be very inclined to assist them in their clear

[half scaffold]

no borrow

is certainly one of the ways to play

[steep vortex]

i can no borrow most tor clears atp

[half scaffold]

for example

[torn thorn]

I mean if you have at least one of each color fest

[steep vortex]

how is that kaiju lmao

[empty verge]

my domain expansion, infinite pyrox, got tanked by nexon

[torn thorn]

and like most of the buffers

[half scaffold]

tor wakaboat would be impossible for me without a borrow

[steep vortex]

i said clear not speedrun

[torn thorn]

and a decent amount of farmables farmed

[half scaffold]

geburah insane is impossible without a borrow

[torn thorn]

you should be able to no borrow most TA’s

[worldly sun]

Just have your own satsuki

[half scaffold]

now I do

[steep vortex]

i’ve been mostly borrowing just higher invested dps or ue60 specials recently

[half scaffold]

but on geburah debut I was missing satsuki and i.saku

[steep vortex]

for slacc clears

[torn thorn]

the requirements honestly aren’t even THAT high, main roadblocks are gonna be the gimmick raids

[half scaffold]

so no borrow is a hilariously crippling handicap

[empty verge]

us f2p cant upgrade her

[half scaffold]

playstyle

[severe steeple]

There comes a point where you do the 1-pan Tor team and borrow UE60 Kisaki because you have all the other students, and upgrading your UE40 Kisaki to UE60 gets you the most DPS increase

[zealous tusk]

Imagine not being able to clear extreme gebruh even when you got a satsuki spook...........

[torn thorn]

I mean ext is still hard if you don’t have the buffers lol

[half scaffold]

dont need satsuki for extreme tbh

[steep vortex]

could always play like inori and do no fest clears

[zealous tusk]

rather yesod 😭

[half scaffold]

hibiki is sufficient

[steep vortex]

finish with shimiko somehow

[torn thorn]

satsuki ain’t doing shi if she’s not properly invested and also not buffed

[half scaffold]

where did inori go anyway

[frozen birch]

still cant do Geb torment without UAsuna on my end fr

[steep vortex]

he’s still here

he does lowest lunatic clears now

[half scaffold]

geb torment is the hardest shit

[torn thorn]

:cjwatt:

[severe steeple]

There was someone in JP who did no-borrow Goz Luna I believe

[empty verge]

https://tenor.com/view/keqing-f2p-btw-genshin-impact-gif-315389262603717129

[severe steeple]

because there's no student overlap

[half scaffold]

🦖

[steep vortex]

i can do no borrow luna goz

[frozen birch]

mostly cause Satsuki isnt comfy

[summer dew]

headpats

[steep vortex]

it’s honestly really easy

[half scaffold]

is this goz luna debut?

[steep vortex]

no

[half scaffold]

if so 🦖

[severe steeple]

2nd one

[empty verge]

plankton numbers

[steep vortex]

2nd run but different terrain

[torn thorn]

Goz rerun is free

[half scaffold]

oh if its last week goz than he's kind of a lot easier

[torn thorn]

Or is I’ve heard

[steep vortex]

it’s genuinely free

[torn thorn]

[half scaffold]

by a ton

[steep vortex]

i’m going to slacc 3pan with hinata p1

[half scaffold]

I think 20x more luna clears than debut

[empty verge]

kurokage lunatic is free (i still havent learned superteam and i'll fumble it)

[half scaffold]

actually crazy

[severe steeple]

everything is free for whelpd

[empty verge]

(+ 2 consecutive nights no sleep, going crazy)

[half scaffold]

2nd goz no borrow clear isnt 🦖

[empty verge]

[torn thorn]

krkg lun free because of hikari tbh

[steep vortex]

plus eye changes

and ue60

[half scaffold]

free because of m.reisa

tbh

[torn thorn]

nah

[half scaffold]

actual god tier unit

[steep vortex]

yeah mreisa too

[torn thorn]

Not like mreisa is needed

[steep vortex]

she makes p2 so free

[empty verge]

expensive because of himari

[torn thorn]

you can do with csena

[half scaffold]

not needed but made it way more accessible to clear

like extremely

[steep vortex]

like genuinely i malded so much more for 40m last krkg than i did this lunatic

[empty verge]

if u lack both himari and oshigure, ur cooked

[steep vortex]

didn’t burn a single ticket

[torn thorn]

oshig not even needed

[empty verge]

probably doable with boshi t1

[torn thorn]

I feel like himari probably isn’t strictly required either

[empty verge]

you tell me

no himari is 3 pan at best

[prime geyser]

Ssg 869

[half scaffold]

last year 40M krkg and this luna krkg pretty similar difficulty wise

[torn thorn]

Balding tor Psmh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

[half scaffold]

i dont bald tor

actually

[frozen birch]

side note

ppl using BHosh cleanups

whats your positions

cause i need to sacrifice one tank who cant get Koharu'd

[torn thorn]

natsu

[steep vortex]

40m last time was so dogshit for me

eye mald

[frozen birch]

so rn i got Koharu BHosh Reisa Natsu

[half scaffold]

I forgot what score I got

[torn thorn]

wher chare

[old rose]

mm yes the team is comfy no mald

[torn thorn]

:subvitals:

[frozen chasm]

dont you love it

[frozen birch]

ah i see. so i dont need to use Reisa, makes sense. i can prolly do that

[frozen chasm]

when you are 99% to groggy

and your hanako stab cant groggy

[torn thorn]

only need 1 tank yeah

[frozen chasm]

[empty verge]

No Rio?

[frozen birch]

ill use her but 3* i hope is fine, but its p3 its fine

[half scaffold]

bro couldn't escape 🥀

[quiet raft]

how do you keep your reisa alive?

[torn thorn]

shes not even bad armor

3* more than enough lol

[half scaffold]

im subvitals

[empty verge]

Chare mogs

[frozen chasm]

you dont?

[old rose]

she just lives

[frozen chasm]

reisa just need to survive 22s

[half scaffold]

I got this ||on my phone||

[frozen chasm]

then you re summon her

😟

[old rose]

i do nothing specifically to keep her alive

like the team is comfy to escape but how the fuck does it clear

[empty verge]

Just be t Rex and have her ue60 like duck

[old rose]

she's ue40

[quiet raft]

I happen sometimes when I summon her, then cat charges and instantly dead, or maybe too close to others so gets caught in the eye

[torn thorn]

just clean up lol

[old rose]

can't

[torn thorn]

wher bhosh

wher smika

[old rose]

smika used alr

boshi...

boshino...

[half scaffold]

👴

[torn thorn]

bro bhosh cleanup is literally free

[empty verge]

Kaiju units: chiaki, renge

[copper surge]

Who heals for more, Mreisa or OShig?

[old rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1388423110755352667.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=psmh

[frozen chasm]

oshig

[old rose]

i am aware

[torn thorn]

bhosh can literally do the entirety of p3

[half scaffold]

2 pan is extremely bald

[quiet raft]

welp

[old rose]

i just need the p2 to kill really

[torn thorn]

are you bhoshlet

wher momiji

[quiet raft]

I think if it's needed I can use some ligma for the ueMreisa

[old rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1388423110755352667.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=psmh

[west perch]

Iori can clean that up

[empty verge]

Which supports do you use without s shiroko? S nagi and who?

[west perch]

like unironically

[quiet raft]

he probably has her at 2*

[torn thorn]

wher uneru

[old rose]

used already

[torn thorn]

😟

[half scaffold]

💢

bro ignoring momiji

[west perch]

ok more importantly: what healers are left

[torn thorn]

i mean

anyone

itll just be slower lol

[empty verge]

[west perch]

are we at hanako serina territory yet

[quiet raft]

did you even used her on missions?

[torn thorn]

preferably a cost buff unit if you have one left

[quiet raft]

where is your momiji investment?

[half scaffold]

I did

[old rose]

no

i had shanako

[half scaffold]

momiji is underrated progression unit

[empty verge]

I will pat arona's head for the 2.1-pan

I'll get luckt

[west perch]

you can also do ibukiroha tank trick with some randos that live a bit

[empty verge]

I'll crit

[old rose]

these are the teams ive thrown already

[sand harness]

[old rose]

dw about the invest, i haven't updated them

in theory I can keep my smika team for cleanup

[torn thorn]

are you running the 1:10 entry hw?

[old rose]

this is koharu p1

[west perch]

oh, so no imari csena oshig takane kokona

[quiet raft]

damn lucky bastard

[torn thorn]

F

[west perch]

wow it's very impressive you got that far

[old rose]

my p1 entry involves auto attacking to enter p2

😄

not bald super comfy

!

[quiet raft]

I have no Shanako so I cannot just wipe scrimmage like a stain on my screen

[torn thorn]

how much are uneru and smika teams doing?

[old rose]

uneru is doing 6m setup, smika is doing 2m for groggy

[torn thorn]

oh

i feel like that oculd prob be optimized a bit

[quiet raft]

does groggy transfer?

[torn thorn]

surely someone else can do 2m groggy dmg

instead of smika

[old rose]

i mean the best best best case scenario is that my first shanako team leaves at 100m

[quiet raft]

yeah, I cannot think of any other cute librarian that could do that

[torn thorn]

like idk do u have any of the purple aoe

[old rose]

i have the renge team

[torn thorn]

ichika yukari renge

[west perch]

so you should still have... satsuko, ayane, onodoka, fuuka, chinatsu, hanae for healers

[old rose]

but it uses hanako, tharuna, and mimori to stay alive

don't have ibuki or she would be on the team

[old rose]

not old enough to have any of those invested unfortunately

well satsuko is invested

[west perch]

well yeah but those are your only options left

[quiet raft]

Fuuka invested

[frozen birch]

SHosh not tanky lol

[old rose]

what about... xhanae

[quiet raft]

who invests on Fuuka? besides waifu

[west perch]

worse than ayane

[old rose]

but yea I would love to keep smika for cleanup

[torn thorn]

how much groggy can fully invested 3* momiji do?

[old rose]

so I'd like to optimize my renge team to deal more damage

i don't have another healer to support a momiji team in p2

[copper surge]

so is the strongest aoe healer right now?

[west perch]

although, xhanae did work on that 1 GA greg that 1 time

[old rose]

like I could instead enter with my 2nd shanako team at 94m

[torn thorn]

i meant try replacing smika with momiji

so you can save smika for cleanup

[old rose]

i mean the team is designed around getting 3 smikas off with sseia and snagi buff

momiji doesn't have rapidfire mode

[half scaffold]

korea is going to be 40.03 cutoff

[empty verge]

How much u doing? ~77?

[old rose]

I've gotten one successful run ending at 6m

i haven't played the p2 shanako team enough to be comfortable with it yet

cuz my p1 is rather mald

[frozen birch]

SHosh sucks lmao, cant tank the blackhole for crud

[old rose]

i have no idea if ending at 6m was with good/bad/average crit

[empty verge]

Did you enter at 94?

[old rose]

entered at 91.6

bc I had a god p1

[empty verge]

Then I think its above average

[old rose]

more common I would enter at like 92.5

[half scaffold]

maybe your heals are mistimed

[torn thorn]

is ur kisaki still 3*?

[frozen birch]

UE50 SHosh just flops over dead haha

[empty verge]

That team can do 92 if super lucky, but I saw videos with 77

[torn thorn]

or is that just out of date documentation

[frozen birch]

nah shes UE40

oh my b

[torn thorn]

i meant @old rose

[frozen birch]

wrong person

[old rose]

old

[rose perch]

icannotfortymillionintorment