#💬gameplay-discussion
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2 digit slacc
at least for TA rn
im too lazy to 2 digit GA but I know I can
actually - maybe not even this time 
smika and fuyu, can't borrow both
I am too skill issue to 2 digit anything, and its fine
f2p clear is possible, I see
At least I managed to 2-pan Purple this time. 
We do a little trolling...
wheres the chiaki hw
f2p
It was a boring 1-pan, very unoptimized but if I am going to put effort, let it be on tor
she is a tank?
she becomes the tank in that team formation
ah ok, she is support, I am not hallucinating
When did jp get mission 30?
She is blue armor S.Kanna
Another Akane? Geez....
f2p, unoptimized, ue40 
yeah, very f2pNOT 
you can really see the sparkles of her hair 
I guess Daru is not limited, but like bleh
notice the fuyu is 3*
is that a spook Fuyu?
just spook, she's f2p
or just too lazy to click unlock?
unlock what
I think when the devs want to give us a nothingburger unit, they give us a DEF down single target unit and call it a day
I spooked Nanna and Eri as ones who I got to use most recently
Well, Not Kanna, really, just doggo who I spooked and had no idea if she'll ever be raised
i like how it looks in the light of transition
sparkly mika?
enhance
Mika drives me crazy
nyeh
I need to optimize it some more
enlargen
What does Fuyu even do again
atk spd up and def down
No fuyu borrows 
borrow my level 77 4* fuyu 
Hm. I mean attack speed up doesn’t matter as much but it’s a def down ofc
Oh right @steady prairie I couldn’t replicate it on a real ticket but I’m still proud
Small shun meta? 
damn small shun dps
What is DHina mood for this Hiero?
very sad
D for D hina
🦖
Ah... so its the anti Dhina one
mmmmm... mayhbe I should force DHina, or I could try SNonomi
Oh no I still needed a team before this, and two on the real ticket
hiero is an urban only raid
the dhina doesnt concern herself with the opinions of urban raids
Dhina just gets in because she is so stupidly broken
why not just toki it tho
the thing is, I prob cant find a busted SNonomi, and my maxed DHina prob = SNonomi
toki borrow instead 
Very nice 
toki is a lot better than snonomi
even with msuzumi
It works just, you’re limited in how many buffers you can bring cause
20: Kaho
30: Subaru 🦆 (New!)
guess I save more pyrox
Shunny cannot survive without
TYuuka AND Rio IMari
targetted red prof
basic proficiency on a special 
same buff as ario sub
Like ppl say why don’t I use DAru instead of TYuuka
wtf geb dps?
what the the heck even is this
no?
Cause Shunny flat out dies lol
i wonder how good the ex buff would be for Geb
shes a dps no?
compared to u.asuna, oops, I thought she was a support
red set dps

Oh god Luna hiero is gonna be impossible
Why am I seeing s.mika dps for blue torment in the leaderboards?

because she's that good?
Cause no one wants to crit mald maid aris yet
oh yeah, they add an extra thing to lunas, I remember peroro is basically the kaput is guaranteed so, what are the others?
I swear she traded places with wakamo for yesod and hiero
S.mika just shreds regardless of half efficiency, it's just part of being a gorilla
This is urban hiero not indoor. There's no wakamo
did you win

Crazy gif pull
use smika
smika got 007'd for yesod by wakamo
You have to wheelchair wakamo
ex skill name - stay true to the basics
main source of dmg is from basic

wait is this weakness detection but for red
Sub: "I'm a student"
is a student
or its just a straight damage taken debuff
I think it's brio's sub skill but on an ex

it's the only source of damage i'm pretty sure
semantics
targetted ario sub

man
The basic procs whenever you use her ex
mortar rounds
i dont see the potential here
You don't see the potential in a red dmg debuffer
uh, no ? not here ?
unless her damage is good she's just a red debuffer ig
-1 special
doa outside geb smh
why is she special tho
You mean not for any of the countless red bosses we have
though she's classified as "attacker"
not comfy
I want to protect that smile
-1 tix 💀
like, I can only see her in set rn
do u really see her in set
thats the only place currently for her, ye
But I swear, if it's another DEF down unit.....
Deno the kinda guy to see s.seia kit and be like nah we have Kisaki
noneleft please
Oh, I know... she will Def down 1 enemy AND cleanse 1 student
who can she even replace in set
tell me where would you use her
Set, hiero, kaiten, what else is red
Who?
Anything red
if we using her in red set are we dropping snonoms?
Not geburah
Probably not greg
shes special not striker
i'll wait to see if her ex is 15 hit
even on luna she will not be a second choice
so not nonomi
kiki is just slightly higher buff

ik
greg for 1 debuff 
Wdym where would I slot her? In the special spot?
I wouldnt slot her outside of l2d
we dont know yet if she can break orb so gotta wait
You guys are way too 1pan pilled
uh huh
surely
Have we even had a non special dps red Luna yet

Don't think we have
tbh, that was what the #🔰gameplay-help post said about s.seia "You don't have to care about Kiki dying plus Kiki is higher buff"
kaiten and hiero
We haven't had those yet
ye and unless kaiten is reworked (it has to be for p2) she wont be used there
hiero I dont believe even for a sec
good luck, let me know when you're outta silver
When I clear the raid you'll see
her ex doesn't deal damage so can't shieldbreak kaiten p2 either
What even is Kaiten's mechanic to be worth luna? 
She's a debuffer -_-
ik but like u want role compression ya know
a very specific debuffer you forgot to add
Yeah for red armor
I believe deno was the guy who said there wont be a new purple TA raid after they released like 5 purple urban dps students
That sounds exactly like deno
if she were high hitcount ex as well it would be more incentive to use her in kaiten p2
obv
ye I said that for a year straight
only took them nearly 2 years to release it 
is it really so good ur dropping a special slot for it tho
it isnt
Am I the only one who sees the obvious application of this
but let her dream I guess
i feel like every traditional hyperbuffer would out perform
Where the green raids at?
is there an obvious application?
i don't think u would see her until like 3rd or 4th team
no, explain how is she preferable over the usual hyperbuffers
What do you think lunatic might need
shush there won't ever be another red raid after u.akane, trust /s
Shocker, lunatic might need more than one team
ehhhh... if a new luna comes out that requires 3+ fixed teams then i'd be surprised
Shocker, so far we had 2 lunas that went beyond 3pan on release
Someone should pin this
shock deno
like even for first peroro, there was some team flexibility
ye we need 5th red raid fr fr
let purple rot
Deno when nexon doesn't just make every
Lunatic like Binah 🤯
like to say that this student is necessary (or almost necessary) for the raid because of her presence on a team 3+ seems far fetched
Do I build toki for this raid or just wing it with dhina?
they will rework binah luna right?
I'm barely a year old smh
either works i think
so you didnt experience any of them apart from theory crafting
Wing and bodythrow
oh she is special
No but I don't see how that's relevant
ooooh, u.akane is special
the true sadness in this is she's unbuildable due to milennium debt
Can she be used on Geb maybe? as DPS?
Can it really be debated if shes good or not without numbers?
This is the real problem yes
if her damage is there then yes she could be used on geb
she can't break pillar thoufh
wait why
pillar can't be targeted by basic

her only dmg is basic
she can't break pillar
What do you guys even call it when there's no new Event Story happening for the week?
Besides talking about the double loot campaigns
I highly doubt she's a geburah unit
but her basic targets whatever her EX was used on 
but pillar says it can't be targeted by basic
deadweek?
yeah, from the look of it she won't be used on geb

Filler episode
ye I think we can discuss the possibilities ? I personally fail to see how she'd be preferable over the usual hyperbuffers unless her numbers are out of this world
i mean is she a support or a dps tho?
well, you can still just use pillar break + uakane
she's listed as an "attacker"
like that's not a problem
why would that matter
we'll just wait for tmr for stats & gear 
well we dont know her role yet
if she has good numbers then good

Just wanna learn all the lingo & stuffs, you know how it goes
a debuffer with small damage? or a basic-dps with a debuff on top?
you would have to waste a dps ex on the ice after its shield goes away or... nyeh, I think she could be used
well we just established that she cant break ice
given that she's red/red just like bEimi & Rena, I think she'll either be for new content or kaiten
also i do also doubt that shes a geb student
Special slot Is alr clamped. But if she has the drawback of being light only then maybe that means the debuff Is strong? Yet again it looks like fuyu Is More usable than pyuuka so its pure especulation
hmmm should i even buy yuzu eleph
main issue for me aside from that is the fact that even if kaiten/hiero arent as easy as binah, then I still don't see her being used in hiero. On kaiten they might rework stuff and she might be fine but on hiero ? I dont see it
insane rots I've seen with high score ignore the ice until shield goes away, then again it probably matters a lot more in torment and the cost would possibly be too much to waste on not breaking
huge doubt on hiero unless her numbers are insane
she'd have to be better than a cdmg buffer
or hiero would have to be as bad as peroro
I did get Yuzu eleph just to get her this month
they are gonna cook us with hiero i can feel it
I had a whole lot of coins
and kaiten too
I just know kaiten will be an absolute pain in the ass. The blue tor was already rough by itself
whelstark 
if you're denosaur you will opt for 2pan with yakumo tho
i dont have yakumers
wym as bad as pero.....
pero was the roughest luna so far f2pfamy...
I think it cant be randomly selected by basic, but if the EX forces an attack, it will be targeted by it
Now its going to be Shiro Kuro
oh idr maxing her...
aight ig solo yuuka is easy then
hmm
maybe I should start buying tsurugi elephs now
Only now?
school Akane is another Satsuki?
almost 1st try
mr breast is trying to get my moni !
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Is new Akane gonna be perm or
perm

hmm ig i can try subsitute daru for snagi
Should I try going for a 1 pan with wakamo boshi mreisa comp or a 2 pan on blue torment?
just clear first
who is blud pinging
then do whatever u want
look at maple

That’s a reasonable idea
just copy my comp bro
why is your name holographic
It’s boring af no offense
special blessing from BA god

Even if I have all the needed units plus borrow, it’s boring
is there a similar student like School Akane?
What now
What’s her kit
depends on what you're asking about
Is it?
looks to me like a Satsuki like student
someone needs to hold me
you already maxed her
That looks like a gaybruh dps
i have an extra star
That really depends on her basic skill
to max out
And how broken it is
Just use ligma
i don't have any more
Then save
:frozenSMH:
It also seems she gives explosive damage effectiveness debuff to a target
how
Haven't seen something like that
wym how, thats literally whats written
bhimari and brio
They have a similar debuff

Yeah but diff source
We aren’t talking about her
...
ah
we arent talking about shinata here
😭
that's why i was confused
are u illiteracy
Bro has nothing but his wife in his head
nah he thought I was responding to his shinata
SHUT UP 😭 he typed under me that's why i thought he was talking about me
i mean
about hinata
and i got confused cause i know she deals damage with her ex
sybau 


dumb ahh
it doesnt matter
wow, Rio has the debuff on her sub skill and School Akane on her EX. Do you think it makes sense to stack them?
Maybe idk
too early to theory craft
test

Imagine counting
Comfy
Baldshino
Insane work
free, right?
I have to eject blue. Fucking curse rng

Bald
It's so fun to just smika it
Nah
Red Tor is absolutely miserable without Hoshino Swimsuit
Ur lame
Using mreisa against Jerome is fun
And there's legit no good replacement tank, which is crazy
Curse Toki
Reset
Curse Toki
Reset
Curse DAru
Reset
bald
reset
Better than DHina with rio
so only imari and shoshi should be cursed?
Yes

just pull
Seia tanking
i did
pull more
i spend 120 pulls
i'll pass my credit card for fest
7m damage on jerome saves me 12s off my super team
what's the p2 hp again @steady prairie
But I lose out on the 4th debuff stack with a bodythrow team before phase change
ins
exactly half for all diff
12m
fck 50k left
If the heater in gaybruh overheats for just slightly under 100% due to rounding
i have soo many questions
use phase change to reset lantern debuff
Could the same rounding error happen on Jerome?
Yeah you only need 99.01%
Maybe that’s why my wakamo sometimes destroys the relic even though it has a bit of hp
And sometimes it doesn’t
What about the purple relic
purple relic need 100%

fuyu tanker
what about this then
that's 100% wdym
That is not 100% on the relic
The green relic has nothing in the hp bar
The purple one has a little bit of blue
whatever works for u 
Only issue is that this isn’t consistent
Its just visual just move on
pop the cherry and do damage
after yesod it feels better now
just clear with smika
wakamo team need to bald curse if i use 1st

Yea shit was cancer i had first hand experience
small aoba
More than that
But mika team should do 23 mil if played correctly
Mreisa placement
literally free
1k ligma isnt free
smika
do i do 1600 pulls for fuyu
Yes
yes
yes
Ssg whelven
wtf that's not me
is today a DEAD WEEK!?
GA is on
what event is on rn?
who tf use 3 dps
bro outed himself
Free win basically
Wow
Blue Tor might actually be "lol lmao I give up" territory
Wtf do I even do here lmao
Mari Idol's extra healing + Kisaki shields actually matters so much here lol
That is the way

Imaris blowing kiss allows you to efficiently speedrun lantern too
ripbozo
My smika bodythrow did 9m dmg by the time I’m done
ue40?
Yes
isnt that low 
S mika body throw does 23 mil if played correctly lol
damm I got bombed by B100 kat
My scuffed tor clear
i got baited by 1 lucky run on mock and end up burning tix

reason why i dont mock anymore 
i thank @round kayak
wtf nyk borrow
I tried finding a solution but I don't think there is without Kisaki, IMari, SHoshino
Nice, 1 pan?
no problem man
it's still 39M
still need to write down the TL from the HW
Good idea
But also
My wakamo isn’t guaranteed to take out the purple relic without buffs
headpat
Imagine using tl bro
nezo doing 40m 
Just ball
Seia tanking
Anyway red is the real pain
whats the cutoff of 2digit anw
red is free
assuming 40+ clears with maris blue
Where’s your magical blue clear

need 10x purple kirara/megu/ocherino ticket for april fools
waw slaccsia smh 
like you expect asia to blow it all out first day on GA

I actually have an answer on Red without any of these, but I don't have one for Blue
asia busy at work
we still have a lot of balders in day 1
I dont include the r50<
u gonna do maris comp? 
like baldstark balding smeeka stab
let's see what nexon cooked for us tomorrow 
does maris comp need ur own maris
no lol, I have no fuyu and maldris
breathing normally and get called balding
uh uh

sure....I believe you
making own rotation is not balding
Nezo what’s your blue torment plan

how much is the difference between maris and smika one pan
that's so creative, I can't see anything on Souki board 
surely I can get 2 digit with smika only
on jp top maris rank 1 top smika rank 80
My red torment plan is bald
can 926 029 803 get u to 2digit? 
No
just this 
why musuzmi
sadly I can only do one 40m
msuzumi good for boshi aa
atk buff + basic prof
waka basic
oooh
decent aa herself
yea every maris/fuyu owner who are willing to mald have free 2 digit this raid
shit now i have 31 skoharu elephs for no reason
shes alr ue60?
nah ue40
.
ue50 her
and hell no i aint ue50ing her

why not
why tf
shes a very valuable ue50
explain
mood go up
Blue greg
B->A is bigger than S-> SS
What if you really hate greg
who else u permitting
Secret third option: become Greg
fes

cmon bruh

permittijg fest psmh
yer..
ehh
I’m a few months away from boshi ue50 using permits
also shop reset tomorrow
well errr maybe you can laydown on that since she's coming next fest
kemonomimi
You mean going for boshi dupe?
What
shop reset when
+100+100 eleph = 1000 eligma
spooks I mean at least
Next reset
I guess that works
well you can pull for boshi dupe if you got kei and mecha aris already
What about kuroko
how built is she?
I don’t have her
oh wtf

well as it stands then its pretty much:
kei > mecha aris > kuroko > boshi dupe
just dont go beyond your 200/400 pulls
Just skip kuroko and do 2pan goz lun with hinata and mecharis
surely it's not that bad

Nah
How important is it to get t10 watch on wakamo and would it make 1 pan blue tor easier?
basic wife needs
a bit more important here than usual
not that massive though
vital on yesod etc
not having fyuu sucks
its only torment
My Red clear is 2 teams, no Kisaki, Hina Dress, Mari Idol, Hoshino Swimsuit, Fuyu, Shiroko Swimsuit. And the only reason I could clear Tor Red is because I'm a waifu gamer who decided to main Set
Blue on the other hand, even maining Set cannot save me, cos raising my Kuroko won't even help me clear 
:psmh:
Is mika worth pulling spark in 49 days left?
Red torment is gonna be something
Red is actually so much easier
At the very least, more viable DPS
time to
If my d hina fails me then I’m cooked
Blue is no groggy gaming with Mika Swimsuit
And if that doesn't work you're just screwed
Just run your blue hiero team
Can’t have kisaki in both teams
You still got s seia
do u have her ?
Sire me no kok
Just do 2 teams then if you raised Hina Dress
Sseia dead
Not yet tho. Even s mika not obtain since i choose s nagisa
A Toki team and a Hina Dress team, should clear
i mean u assassin
Nah
Seia Swimsuit should live pretty fine
My borrow is Imari
Oh you actually build b yoshimi? That's creative ^^
Where am I getting Hoshino Swimsuit or Toki
get mika too. she is nice yellow dps

Nope, not her
:subarustare: 
subaru 
oh shoshlet
Yea, if I had Hoshino Swimsuit I'd have a snooze Red clear
kinda question for end gamers.. how do i farm t6 gears ? since they are always low for me
Alrighty then
Honestly, main reason Hoshino Swimsuit is so important is that she's actually role compression here
Without her, you actually have problems tanking attacks
thats true lol
eh only a bit
Hiero Tor hits like a truck
S hoshino still have tanking problem lol
he does slap pjyuuka
Better than a Yuuka PJ relying on Kokona solo healer
You gotta mald curse so you can heal her to full if running kok
she survived my tor runs on hiero

I forgot this bastard has Def Piercing on Tor
a lot of it is curse mald on bad comp
So Def tanking isn't even all that reliable
It’s just annoying
Try running noa s hoshi d hina and kok and youll understand 💀
i run imari 
The difference between Mari Idol and Kokona is very obvious on Tor, especially on copium teams
do Subaru pullers know Aris(Armed) exists?
they dont care
also shes likely not competing at sll
Like, it's so much harder to do Blue Tor Urban Hiero rn if you have to run Kokona

given that subarus' potential is for an equivalent of urban set
which aris gonna be bad for
I am 99% certain I'm giving up on this Blue Tor, I legit got no magic to perform 
Shirokuro was 10x easier than this lmao
oof, sorry toki but dont have much time to mald
though its up in the air if shinata gets niche content before subaru does
does chiaki pullers know smika exists
its not really any different
ig imma do dhina comfy
☹️
only if doing speedrun
i found it easier to comfy clear with kok
It is insanely different, cos not having Mari Idol is easily 5-10m dmg difference on my copium teams
btw 4* kok human rights?
you're doing something wrong then
ue30
Well, no Kisaki does that to you
-280 eligma
But mika was not revealed when chiaki originally appeared 
i forgot where to put mari to make her not tank and just swapped to kok and cleared, was just looking at toki numbers
bruh
Eh, looks fine I suppose
-32
both fill the lantern in 1, both bruteforce with rio in 2
only thing imari has is you can go though 1-2 lantern a little faster with ex+basic
I don't think urban set will be a thing
I mean, for Red if you have everything else, Mari Idol vs Kokona is the difference between runtime and positioning for the most part. On Blue it's kinda different
ewuivalent
also kok positions herself a lot better
I need consistent Basic procs to stay alive
imari hg runs to the front all the time and contests cover with other hg
depends on comp
no you dont
Which non-dps students are you setting up as assists?
Without that I lose tempo by delaying lantern stacks by 1 full cycle
my question has been answered
dont break violet so early then
my ue30 iwak 1 shot relic somehow
You're not running Kisakiless comps
I uh, don't break it the entire run

Once I break it someone dies in 20s
its been answered again
Like I said, y'all forget that Kisaki shields
btw any hw for kok toki
you get more out of double healer and breaking violet than never breaking it
kisaki shield is relevant

full shirokos
Lol lmao, this is my problem 
And if I run double healer, I have nothing for cleanup team
bring bhoshi to tank
Don't have
No Hoshino Swimsuit, Mari Idol, Kisaki, Himari, Hoshino Armed, Shiroko Swimsuit, Fuyu
That's what I'm working with
-snagi +oshig see whst happens

They will live but I probably do around 20-25m dmg
brewk violet
I don't have anything to clean up so much remaining HP
Yea that's with breaking Violet prolly
go mock
No CDmg on Mika Swimsuit is a lot of DPS loss
no violet is far bigger
if you're not breaking purple you straight up wont kill in 1 team anyway
bring daru iwak? or unavailable too?
kisaki got me forgetting about using protection
whether or not you survive
@loud knoll
and more teams wastes a lot of time as you have to redo lantern every time
Yea, I am aware
Hi aware
I have searched this up 3 months ago
Time for your signature niya cook
Hi aware
be the first in history
I got that on Red, but not Blue
just use niya 4 times to break the purple her dps is great 
Red lol lmao
smika is the tanker for insane tho
dont need to tank if u kill the enemies quickly
no hw be like
I just realized, she's probably really good in FOS 
pro denosaur
yes, I did say she could be good in set
only way to force no one to take that cover near :nezo: is to not have any short range units
but we'll see how good
yeah, especially considering you have 4 special student slots in FRR
First one down, 2 more to go
So they do correction camps 
Recovery debuff
bro spending 50% of cost just to heal
smika solo tank
That's correct 

i like it
the new valkyrie npc is from corrections bureau iirc 
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aight
2x normals & 2x hards on 2nd takane week (both same week) 
This is going to be tricky
And dress ninja at end of April
anyone here have problem about M.Reisa
the range of her EX seem wrong in Hiero
why not just use a classic clear
looks cursed
People did 1pan with that hw
nagi heal + kok brute forces
My pvp coins won't be able to survive this, I'll have to cut corners 
its the fastest no imari red
lmao translate made kokona become corona
although if you use dhina and borrow imari its potentially faster
I might try it for fun this week, I didn't have nagisa back then. And (impulse) pulled dako in the last day
these top 2 seem bald tho
man
must have 11 cost
but yeah this was the top team last? hiero, the one before rio
it's not even bald comp it's just whale check comp
does need ue30 kok/nagi/kisaki with lb heal to hit brute force point
actually i think there was a hiero between but that was the yellow tor one with only red ins
that was last ta
if you dont mind going a bit slower you can just heal curse target
otherwise you do have to reset for it to land on someone who either shrugs it off (shosh) or your healer who will self-heal

absolute washed
when in doubt
メイドアリス未所持なら水着ミカが一番よさそうですね。特殊装甲なのに……
SPECIAL固有4があればTLの幅が広がるのですが、ないものは仕方ないので3桁目標くらいの気持ち。
■補足
フユは☆4でも通ります。
動画時間1:29のマリーEXは右のTLには記載していま...
dont you have all the pieces for the one i sent
or no nagi
ik you have dako you pandemonium whel
hello gpd
K.K archive is your best friend
i mean if you don't have all the stuff for brute force you can just not do that
As expected from a balder. Thank u 
also fun fact when that team ran last time it was pre-toki bg
no

sasuga
ue40 Nonomi + pressing random buttons 
ue40 your sseia immediately
its the only way
its the AA from sseia thats missing
unironically sseia dps would have made that kill then

well you got 55 minutes
Guys don't forget today monthly reset
the
not much of a diff between UE 30 and 40 in terms of Hp no?
cant find a UE 40 msuzu..............
buff ret
depends on your rot
You are doing one with t.shiroko?
shit
Ue40 msuzumi more cost not same tl as lesser
I'm struggling too there (still not out of top 100)
I'm alr pushing 60 
someone help me set up defense
nah the one with boshi + wakamo 
surely (?) you want dps borrow instead
(i really don't know)
the chopping block is getting louder
Eimi, 2 tanks, shanako, m reisa, hibiki
That's what I have
it's nice that investing yesod luna let me get 0 investment needed for hiero ga
Rip then
I'd put eimi on the left for intimidation purposes
Hanako position 2
that's it?
I copied this one from peav yesterday, he used yuuka instead of miyako though
hmmmm
peak Trinity girls
So far I only lost def to a pvp tryhard














