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I had to give Kotori SNagisa and AYuzu to make one of the repositions on my backup team
when it's left goz, you hate life
why is the screamrider even on the clone skill list
also is this even accurate since you have chihiro applied for some reason
Kotori to me is like one of those people that you built aeons ago to cope with the fact that you didn't have T.Yuuka at the time, or trying to stretch T.Yuuka by NOT using her first up.
You then manage to make her barely usable through mock practice with timing jumps and using speed supports like iwak and/or NYF to cycle things faster to get back to Kotori asap.
Then the BG comes with helps with a whole lot of things but doesnt fix the fundamental mismatch with UE40 to her kit.
Now she's in that spot where shes like... you gotta have a really good reason to raise her up because its 2026 and theres so many more valid repo shield options besides Kotori.
I guess I just laid out how I felt about her over time ever since using her on first goz
btw, i made this kotori work for backup on jp
I actually mocked P1 with Kotori on Goz lun and i can confirm she works fine
got to the end of 4 mins
I remember still having Kotori raised from the remnant of Kaiten Insane
is reliable enough
I was using her p2
thanks for your f2p tip dajin 
with smika, we have enough students to make kotori be the student furthest back in p2
i fucked up though
and since luna goz gives extra cost, it's possible to make all the repos
kek
normal farm hoard?
you also only need to block one set of bombs on luna (per rotation)
y'all AP stacking ?
still strong
I'd honestly prefer using Kotori p2 since we have more options p1
OG Yuuka + NYHaruna
Mari + IMine
nyharuna 
i have all of these options but im just worried its kinda half baked cuz my T.Haruna aint raised, Mari and I.Mine is but well...i just havent mocked yet
im only familiar with Tsubo / Kotori combo
if it works though, then i dont mind branching out and explore
holy i got nuked
this pvp season isnt all tank as i thought
I was screwing around to see the full potential of this team
I mean, I ran this team first to test it
It's 11m to chip whatever the main teams leftover
my Atsuko is 3*.... could raise her up for pvp
but questionable value outside of that
especially since i do not plan to use her at all on hiero or krkg
I mean if I didn't have Atsuko raised, I'd have used Yuuka
Thing is if you know they have at least shanako itās a wrap for them
Atsuko used to be top dog in Kurokek, that all changed then the fire nation attacked

it's satsuko doing the work
I got a guy running Tsubo / Eimi / Shun / S.Hanako / M.Reisa / Hibiki and i havent had success cracking it so far
mirroring doesnt work
Quad tank hibiki saki kills most shanako shun teams
satsuko basic is like... 4x healing in goz

Even a 4* Saki?
Yeah
hmmm
Oh god they made her too cute
last time i check shes M77M 855 BG2
I kinda bum raised her up for yesod
Oh yeah easily then
didnt anticipate using her
she's there to bait shun lmao
i guess i should max her gear out after m.reisa then to keep options open
You just need to smoke shanako and shun with hibiki and saki and easy ggs
What are they gonna do kill all 4 of your tanks
Saki's basic target Shun / S.Hanako ?
Hibiki does and then saki splashes either on shun or hanako 

oh no it's nori
Mreisa canāt even save shun or hanako
now i gotta use all of tjem
hibiki often doesnt
So you'd run Hibiki and Saki at the same time?
Yeah pretty much
when do you not do that
when they have hibiki, saki, shoshi, or dps that kills tanks that doesnt die to saki hibiki
I mean
like Hibiki and Saki combo would kill, yes. But i'll be without a healer
and i dont wanna use my own atsuko. shes 3*
You donāt need to really
I ran tsubaki eimi yuuka miyako as tanks
you can very much still lose to tsubaki/yuuka eimi mreisa hibiki even if u kill their shun shanako
i did learn that the hard way, yes
these are the boring answers btw
guess Iām just that lucky to win all 3 attacks with that team
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i knew i wasnt crazy to try hina
I assume the number of the right is success rate out of n number of attacks that the guy who made this thing did on other people?
I'm guessing that yeah

Run A1 B. Hoshino (Attacker) or C. Shiroko?
B.Hoshi in atk form?
never tried
but i saved the screenshot Dajin just posted
got a few heads in my bracket doing that def comp i mentioned earlier
ill be trying it out soonā¢
I'm guessing kuroko b/c of Hibiki
also since B.Hoshi is raised up first ill be using her over B.Roko. That said I got enough elephs to push her to UE50.
Skills and gears remains a bottleneck however
too expensive to divert resources over
need to focus on hiero and krkg first
also boshi doesn't really like getting AA'd by Tsubaki

kuroko is prob safe from shanako bc tsurugi
yeah
yeah...
it does go both ways
Tsurugi can put work into SHanako too
alright 1700 AP hoarding ready to go for x2 norms
hopefully ill be farming up enough to avoid my misstep on yesod
ive been relying on tsurugi cleave to get shanako hibiki basic target in some comps
bc sakilet
but its had some bad centroid results
I think this attack should generalize with Boshi for global too. You just won't kill the tanks nearly as fast so you'd be getting sprayed for longer
aight im slaccing tor today on jp, cba
the chinese sheet
lol
I cooked up something similar but I don't have shina or hina built
and there's no good replacement for 750 range coverless yellow armor
tried snono but she gets killed if you get unlucky with first skill enemy shanako

also I think bneru > yuuka/miyako there
did you try kufufu
same layout
when I see Yuuka, I assume she's there for Eimi AA dmg and not messing up formation
or to intentionally get pulled by Tsubaki to cover your flank
no but I think she gets killed too? or at least crippled enough that she won't get to do proper setup before getting hibiki'd away
there seems to be two ways to approach the situation but both seem to rely on that 750 range coverless on a4
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the elites dont want you to know but rio s.izumi is the undiscovered meta
this was a fun attack. I attacked blind at first with Hina but when I saw there was no Eimi...


Iām still a bit clueless as to what strikers to run as I donāt have Saki or Hibiki built and am running S. Atsuko and M. Reisa. 

the sheet actually lists mutsuki as an option for D4 shun
yeah kazusa can pop off when there's no eimi
maybe she survives shanako ex then
she'll do better once we enter the dmichiru era. mreisa said ms. president, get down!
would dhina not work
wtf she's 850?
level 4 sub this whale
it has a tiny bit of use in pvp
whoops, she's not but she has bigger "eye sight"
so her basic procs early which fucks with positions
yeah dhina and srenge both do funny things
because their sight radius is bigger
which fucks with pathing
105->107 acc
it was great last season
0.001% improvement in win rate
Technically itās not useless you just gotta let the investment compound into overtime

god
I need normal x2s yesterday
I think I might x6x4 this shit
raising a bunch of niche ass units for my yesod run and trying to invest my pvp teams immediately afterwards have run me dry
Malding PvP :frozensmh:
DHina basic activating early makes Shun basic activate early. Messes with position to enable counters like this
Me F2P t100 claim
ssg wheliq!!!!
Okay to be fair the concept was fucking hilarious
The execution not so much
I really have like
Zero interest in learning PvP theory
Just feed me teams
And Iāll build themā¦
itās not for everybody we know whelcher
Like maybe if u could practice against ur friends for free
It would be worth looking into
I mean I just don't take pvp that seriously
But as it is the only way you can practice is ||REDACTED||
or club

if I end up taking an L on claim every now and then its whatever
My Pvp ATK comp is just Tsubaki/Emi/Tsurugi/sHanako - mReisa/Hibiki
Tsurugi is for baiting Shun snip and EX Splash Dmg to kill sHanako
I take it so unseriously I just claim r100 and slacc
would make club chat more prevalent too if u could do friendly battles
Oh my god like clash Royale!!!!!!!!

yes like clash royale!!!!!
I'll cook without refreshing and just claim top 100 if needed nbd
Half the names be censored
ok thats a separate issue
Iām top 30 this season and itās a snoozefest
the extra hp lets you get away with a lot of nonsense

Do u have spreadsheet with counters
Man I love s10
Iām losing despite my units being fairly invested
And Iām assuming itās a lineup issue
if i lose, i just move hanako one spot over and that usually fixes things lol

I liked s8 over s9
weāre in s10
S9 is dogshit indoor fountain
damn thats pretty high wr
S8 let me get away with using uneru tech unironically
S9 felt so much worse than S8 to me.
s9 was very bad yeah, had a lot of success but it was bad
Even if it was shanako season too
I got away with uneru in early s10 before there was a meta
You were pretty much guaranteed to log on to see you dropped ranks itās not even funny
Last season I could r10 occasionally due to slacc bracket
s10 is new toy (even after playing jp its different when u have actual units)
fr fr
so hard to tell if its worse than s8 but
Horrors of a warlord bracket I tell you
Itās better than s9 at least
certain blind attack comps were too strong

Like dude you could practically blind attack and predict who is where

I was having a lot of fun one-shooting S. Hanako in S8. 
the nyharuna haruka hoshi kuroko iwak nagi team was just like 60% winrate into 75% of teams
f2p toys
saori saki hibiki not new
I got my first r1 with my dumbass uneru tech 






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death to iqwhale
I actually forgot how annoying MReisa could be lmao

she kept drawing away Saki NS
Was JK Neru for fast first rotation and AA yellow tanks down?
got in the way of kazusa EX
in fever time, she can just keep protecting herself
making a ghost tank after the actual student died


My first R1 was from this battle:
what the helly
Also @hallow plank there was funny bug with uneru ex that if itās first card and you have a cost sub unit you just skipped over her ex entirely until the next cycle 
wtf shiyori do your job
just lose eimi vs hoshino 1v1 in fever time bc my eimi ex got canceled 3 times in a row 
any1 need some vitamins
And even if you got back to it youāll just cycle again

i still won't refresh
i tried iwak uneru nyf nyharuna oen time
Iām glad I refreshed
it worked but i think i got lucky
S8 or S10
eh, I've definitely made more pyro from not refreshing
9


Watafak
Thatās cuz u whel
Mightāve gotten lucky then


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How much pyro is from r10 to r1?
buddy ive seen your missing pakejis
200

Defenses are so good this season barely anybodyās budging
in terms of strict pyro gain the breakpoint is if your season best is in the 20s
wtf is this
Tbh idk if I would be able to naturally hit t10
She got killed but enemy Hoshino was being silly and enemy S. Hanako got collateral damage.
krabby
I been sitting at like
30-50 range
lol
But I havenāt researched comps at all so
Just using 1 size fits all
That loses most of the time

oh my god... is that actually using Kirino just to fucking chip SHanako for Saki NS š
Can I see this sheet?
YO HOLY SHIT I FOUND HER USECASE 
I mean some people used Kirino for PvP shenanigans in S6
okay we can make this f2p
wait kirino is 550 isn't she fck
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3* saki is f2p
What was S6
The train
I'm gonna pretend 550 and 650 are the same
season 6 best ost
Broconut was at R1 when I climbed to R3. 
there's no other options

This @lament gyro
i stg
no need to invest in useless unit dajin
I get it
ngl
But I was newb so sumire was the biggest menace to me 
I miss the quickdrawness of S7 PvP
dkayoko could get a bond gear that gave her permanent infiltration mode forever and could get hit as much as she wanted
and she probably still wouldnt see much use
Yup
Someone even runs Band Yoshimi just to kill Eimi.
Couldnāt be me, right? 
Well shit I guess I gotta put my kirino to use now
Kaijin is the kirino comp defense or attack 
the sheets put def on the left so it's easy to lookup who you're fighting
Okay thanks 
wtfā¦ā¦ā¦
the aris amulet actually comes in handy 
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oop that was a bit ago
did you see my double aris team that wins without going to time
yeah fr 
Filled with magic
So itās time to try Band Airi to kill Eimi?
if it works it works no
im not raising kirino for this bro
gonna try with yuzu instead
what about Toki
I gotchu bro 
also crazy how Kirino is the problem rather than S Nonomi
she's completely different no? 650 no cover vs 550 takes cover
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tbf, I consider SNonomi easily replaced with f2p hina
A4 Toki doesn't get fucked by that S Hanako iirc (?)
need to double check
I remember it working before
forgot if it was d3 or d4 s hanako
Meow
bneru jumps
so I assume any difference in where she's positioned has chaotic effects on counters
did you already try R Shiroko and ignoring the B Neru
maybe the answer is attacking rank 4 instead since that gives me access to 1 anyway
how do i kill shun on d4?
no, lemme raise her rq actually shouldn't need much
yea ezzz
my objective for most part isn't to kill B Neru

Gonna need you to hand those over
D4 S Hanako can't touch A1 R Shiroko iirc
yeah, that's not really the objective imo but doesn't she mess with your positions?
if she eats the R Shiroko AA's for Tsubaki, yeah
you can't completely ignore shanako the entire fight
I just tend to ignore S Hanako comps idk
do we get anything new in shop after monthly reset ?
I mostly face people with D3 S Hanako
sheesh
she's ready
if Tsubo taunt allows Yuzu to do her first basic, there's a good chance S Hanako gets instantly popped
otherwise you need to target S Hanako with other stuff
at this point I've kinda been using the A1 R Shiroko A4 Yuzu attack comp as my default comp
i forgot i had nozomi built a bit
also why are you guys running korean names
They're repping their clan surely
krit klient
I'd try this blind but I don't feel comfortable with my Saki
Saki is just for annoying them
her damage seems a lot but it's not decisive
I'm fine with raising her gear but I really don't wanna give her UE
this Iori variant is better against B Neru D4
I just treat her as a stun bot with some burn damage to the backliners
her EX is negligible imo
you're better off focusing on your other striker DPS options to take down tank and level the playing field
a lot of the comps featuring S Hanako means that if S Hanako is dead, they have no means of making up the damage to win the fight
so I just try to kill 2-3 units
the last remaining unit is usually ignored
although there are also times where I kill them all
btw about this, if your Yuzu isn't threatened by S Hanako splash, you just win eventually
unless you get trolled by yuzu acc but yeah
doesn't matter, eventually S Hanako dies after 2-3 basics
her backline burn is actually kinda huge
that's what I like about Saki
erm I usually just wait till Yuzu basic kills S Hanako
tbh tho, my global yuzu is so much fatter than my jp yuzu for some reason 
this is what it looks
feels way more consistent even without bg
I'm surprised A4 is out of range
the A1 R Shiroko A4 Yuzu comp puts her in S hanako range
I just managed to survive kekw
oh lmao
also sometimes Tsubo taunt makes the job easier
that's my idea with A1 Yuzu A4 Tsubaki
actually, D3 S Hanako is the one that splashses A4 Yuzu
idk about D4 S Hanako
maybe not!
Yuzu breaking SHanako cover or Tsubaki taunt = Yuzu safe
liar
3 in a row into mreisa nudge shanako -> spray and ohko yuzu
I've seen non crit hits just to be healed by DMichiru more often
but that's why I'm thinking Saki makes it more consistent
b/c that chip is enough to send shanako into a death spiral
meanwhile enemy yuzu + chihiro debuffs my tsurugi and crits my shanako insta
wait wtf scam
and theres prob stuff where if first is delayed it falls off
basic doesn't do damage
that's funny af
it was chihiro yuzu hibiki
chihiro basic procs before yuzu lmfaoo
Kanoe is giga scam this season unless you wanna counter specific Shun comps
do NOT default Kanoe
you have higher winning odds with other shit
oh
yea
except hanako was in this case not a hanako
cuz cope alt
but the fact that it would have worked
Why so? Autowin vs any shun attack has been working out pretty well so far
Especially when people donāt change their comp at all and throw the same shun attack x3
you missed out the latter part of the message
You donāt explain why the odds are higher
cause there are simply better options to win with...?
Kanoe is giga scam this season unless you wanna counter specific Shun comps
kinda implies
good vs shun
there's a lot of non shun comps
the message was actually above the do NOT default Kanoe message
i dont actually know how kanoe works
she is natsu with 14k attack
oh
tldr she keeps your backliners safe from Shun
and 1 shot blunderbuss
i now understand how konoe works
That reloads very slowly
Most of my attacks are shun 
shun kinda dies to everything accidently
if they trade their shun for your shanako its good
too bad if you didn't buy elephs for your Yuzu, R Shiroko
for them
It works though 
yeah, but more than half the time shun fails to do that
comfy UE60 with shop reset
not daily reset yet
Daily reset and headpats <t:1774897200:R> 
Sensei! The Expert Permit and other monthly shops will reset on <t:1774983600:D> <t:1774983600:R> 
Yoshimi and Natu!!! Sugar rush!
another day after this daily reset
no u just stupid
wtf i do
fuk u


ok buddy imma come over there and 

bro
now that you mention it...
luna hiero prep dw
ahh that kind of scam
with absolutely no 3* pulls
thought you were referring to binah being a scam 

I'm glad Binah isn't a problem anymore
ok whale I didn't ask!
Are 𫵠ready to blast Hiero?

dajin no
ario?
Rio (Armed)
I really don't wanna think about her
between SNonomi, Toki, DHina, and other red dps
look at the rios
the amount of Eligma I have isn't enough to support her
but I can afford her b50 too
if I have a problem with hiero, then Hiero is the problem!
chesed scarier, uneru seems like shit
Chesed is always the worst one

just depends on what they give us before we tackle Chesed at a new difficulty
there's a reason why they're hiding Chesed for so long
we've had enough
unironically the 2nd coming of shiyori
you will use red armor yellow aoes and you will like it
with the new supporters, maybe we can 2 team the core
no regrets, plz john nexon

I'd rather skip Chesed than pull to prep for it

imagine a uneru rio mikoto team that can cleanly build spirit while clearing waves
ok now we know you are a butt sacc
and the salt it would cause
I skipped S Kikyou too
are you about to have double ue40 kikyous
not enough pulls


can't wait for dps mari fes
0 ligma spent btw
whale
go play with your dkayoko in lunament binah old man
mhm and can we see how many times you pulled summer hyakki banner

Sheās ready! 
f2pbtw

xd
no maint tomorrow right
just new main story
does the story drop on daily reset or maint time
well
when maint usually starts
...but without the maint
the latter
f2p like me never pull bait banner

damn
he only pulls gold
that might be the most f2p team in history
i can't figure out how to beat shun on defense position 4 ć ć
does d4 shun even aggro a1 hanako properly? i think the last one i fought just sat there at d4 hitting a tank
what's the DEF comp


Lethe you coward
i got smacked wdym
i gave her bare minimum on jp for event
i didnt belete
there's like a bunch of weird ass Shun D4 counters

nah....
wdym nah

I think in certain formation d4 shun is just
too far from a1 shanako to aggro onto her properly
yeah
I think it depends on the timing
She is until she moves for whatever reason (Tsubaki taunt, Reisa Magic social distancing)
at first shanako is in range
but when she hits first reload she runs back towards cover
i think shun aggros highest attack power so i need to have someone with more attack power than my ue60 +25 attack 40 relationship s hanako....
and that puts her out of range
idk if it was a bneru moment pushing her back or if she just readjusted from a tsubaki taunt but she just never hit my hanako
maybe that
if shun pops ex early and repositions to shoot hanako better then she stays in range after shanako moves back I think
lmao I think you could actually kirino that
Do you have Toki
tfw
oh yeah toki would fuck up eimi with no shanako to control her
rip
toki not raised
Bwahahahaha, not even the full 3 mins
Try something like Shun Miyako Atsuko/Yuuka and S Hanako
s Shiroko and Saki
bro thats actually a season 1 comp lmao
r1k+?
nah, yuuka wasn't s1
might be worth it for psychic damage
damn just won vs a guy running s6 def
ima give it a shot
at rank 88
Run it
Show recording!
idk maybe hoshino not so much
Btw S Hoshi Shun is a pretty legit pick this season too
Run Miyako Yuuka instead then
hate it when they do that
Also isnt there something that counters b hoshi real fast
I do that against tsubaki
started recording late b/c it took me a minute to open obs
oh i lost to that comp but satsuko over dmich
its rly annoying when the second dps hits the defending team
basic out of taunt goes tsubaki... i see
How is S. Hiyori this season?
Ouch.
6th card shanako 3 times in a row what is this bullshitš„
real
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the future of event challenges like
kisaki hanging with all the fest students
oh right shit I forgot to do jp event challenge uh
what were the gimmicks
challenge 2 is just normal new unit fight right
only one that mattered was the 1st
Should I do JFD
you have 2 minutes left on jfd
is 29-5 a good stage to farm
this man came from 2036
yea kisaki is farmable by then
oh huh
anyway is it or not
it doesn't let me refresh shop if I have
gg
wont let you do it with that little time left




monthly reset next reset dont forget sensei 
arona must pay for this inconvenience with her body
stonks
ba crashed i blame you mashpit
ah it's only 3 days frick you nexon
Yea it's the half week Normal half week Hard
sadge
it was same on jp wasn't it
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But we have no break week, next week is Kurokage 
more shig!!
good day
lmao im gonna hit 5k ep in one day
pog
no
ogey
whel on whel violence

65k 
wao
after getting pulled by Tsubaki she does
whatever, the season is long

yeah it should be at almost 1.4k days if i never quit

yea saw some guys flex their 1600
The L2D roll of the day is F for Fubuki! Ironic.
wait
few days ago
raid started right?
what raid
no in 7h
dunno
first time being on raid day?
i was away the whole weekend
thank god i didn't miss it
1/5 bnnuy
Do we have aoi event this week?
Lesson elephs
dam
ok no need to save ap then

I think it's some weird shenanigan with tsubaki taunt order
Epic disc moment
Scammed š„
ts pmo
Oh boy 2Ć normals
this acc's tsurugi is a piece of shit too
Oh wait only 3 days of 2x hard next 

when will this hoe get her bond gear i swear to god
fuck i spent all AP on the event 
huh I actually have gaps
honestly, if my saki was better raised - she'd definitely be the play over Hibiki. @restive kraken
Thx ig
Today might be the day I drop off r100, I expected it sooner tho so it's alright 
just got into a loop where enemy mreisa was recasting herself on mreisa
dance dance reisavolution
damn, Hina actually pretty solid
I see her being the counter option a few times but I didn't really try her yet
hina and shina are great for picking off backliners
she stands ever slightly behind toki does so Eimi attacks Kirino instead. the extra range lets her hit tsubaki without moving when taunted
and yeah
750 range coverless a4 doesn't move when taunted by d1 tsubaki
so they can't be pulled out of position
ngl, since I don't have a good Saki
Noa might've been a funny replacement for kirino
but kirino got hella bulk and dodge
wtf yuzuāer
yuzu is real shin
I run her blind most of the time on jp
this comp very nice
the one from menhera i usually shun bneru tho
I see her more as a blind pick but Folie uses her intentionally in some comps
i had 15 tickets and only won 4
now this

yuzu aside
Yuzu is cracked bro
i wanna run uneru
Had to double take because I read Busting Development District
Yuzu's basic is what makes her extra cracked
im gonna bust
heat seaking SHanako missile
i checked the sheet, scrolled down and saw cherino akane maki comp
hmm

wtf
it is very Bustling
hidden D4 Yuzu tech
šing
100% didn't get screwed immediately after that
ima yoink that tooā¦
you mean that
def
Pfft, big deal. Anyone can do that 
see the problem is that I have a guy that targets me with a roster as big as mine, or even bigger
I'm thinking they're gonna be safe if yuzu takes out the dps




























