💬gameplay-discussion

[idle rampart]

you can just pop another shanako ex to kill anyway

[steady prairie]

shanako should simply murder with quad buffs

[wicked parcel]

I'll run this on auto today

[quiet raft]

no quad buff, just two

and some def down so yeh

[west perch]

well yeah

def down doesn't help at all here

[empty verge]

How did I win this

[covert spoke]

it does for the first one

[west perch]

the bots have 0 defence once the first is killed

[covert spoke]

triple buff + st def down works good

[quiet raft]

I'm not a 🦖

[summer dew]

I'm not a 🦖

[west perch]

at that point you might be slower than double ST

[candid gust]

free to plat

btw

[empty verge]

I'm still rank 29 in PvP and no eimi, didn't attack anyone since then

[quiet raft]

Would S.nagi, kotama and s.seia work for S.hanako to one shot? nyeh, prolly no point

[empty verge]

Peak bracket

I got attacked only once and with eimi, and I somehow won

[west perch]

ako > snagi here

[quiet raft]

yeah, my smeeka comp gets 81+ score here

[quiet raft]

no built ako

I put all my brays on d.hina

[west perch]

yeah another big factor then

[candid gust]

slack and sleep

[west perch]

multihit aoe so crate buff actually matters

[quiet raft]

technically, I can just buy before reset

[west perch]

nah not worth it for jfd

[quiet raft]

true

[summer dew]

nothing a few strands of hairloss cant solve

[covert spoke]

akane / snagi / kotama / sseia/ shanako will clear

[summer dew]

i had iwak ns at 4 for a long time until i lost my mind at some crits

[quiet raft]

Nah, either way you get enough coins on a 155 something score jfd

even sparing for artiffacts when in need. after you buy the eimi eleph quota

[west perch]

once you do can do 444 any further improvements is minor anw

[quiet raft]

last season I got like 170 something

right now I got 160,400 as best

[summer dew]

you'll get there soon

also the scores arent very comparable since the gimmicks, colors, modes and terrains change

[west perch]

and difficulty

used to be jfds that were a massive pain even with good roster
rare nowadays

[quiet raft]

I know, but still pretty good

[candid gust]

dang so easy

[west perch]

yeah, which is why i just went for 260k

[quiet raft]

did not work

[west perch]

ue30 shanako or smth?

[quiet raft]

borrowed, let me check

[summer dew]

Bad crits? Misaligned shot?

[covert spoke]

smika borrow better

can slow clear with less

[junior juniper]

Guys, is Eimi ue 30 enough for hovercraft phase 1 torment?

[empty verge]

Who needs eimi anyway?

[west perch]

sir target the 1 at the back first

[quiet raft]

probably underlevelled Kotama

[west perch]

do you not know how to use shanako here

[candid gust]

more than enough

[quiet raft]

It's Shanako, it's just a splash

[junior juniper]

Oh ok

[candid gust]

uhhh

[quiet raft]

Or you mean to wait for basic?

[candid gust]

have you even read

[summer dew]

Did you read

[candid gust]

target one at the back first

lol

Once 1 of 3 is dead

You can shanako all of then

That corner is shanako-able

[steady prairie]

yesod drill

[covert spoke]

theres a giant arrow that says attack on them

[steady prairie]

yesod drill

[covert spoke]

what do u think it means

[quiet raft]

You all literally talking as if I can't read when I literally understand yet you guys just say " do you not know how Shanako works "

I do, and borrowing Smika works better because of that.

[candid gust]

please read before asking

[steady prairie]

dude instead of healing everything to max we should just make it stun and do 999999 damage

[summer dew]

We meant the gimmick of hp restore

[candid gust]

i had a stroke after reading

[steady prairie]

would be easier on ourselves

[candid gust]

cuz it was so easy

like wtf

[steady prairie]

how do i make a complaint about drill being not punishing enough

[candid gust]

just aim one at the back and if it dies you just win

cuz others get debuffed

[covert spoke]

if u want to borrow jsut borrow smika

[candid gust]

ssg 10.5 cost

so whale

[covert spoke]

xd

[steady prairie]

saten and 10.5 cost wow double flex

[quiet raft]

Can Shanako really target just like that?

[candid gust]

well yes

[steady prairie]

put her in leftmost slot

[candid gust]

just aim it yourself

[west perch]

...?

[candid gust]

should be possible

[west perch]

I literally just showed you images that you could do that

[steady prairie]

after that it's smooth like butter

[wide basin]

[obsidian heath]

clearly shopped

[candid gust]

how many reposts do you want?
me: yes

[obsidian heath]

no way she can do that !!

[candid gust]

sarcasnairobi hour

[empty verge]

Rank 11 is my ceiling

[summer dew]

But there is no cone when i press auto!?

[candid gust]

me noob

you pro

i kneel

🛐

[quiet raft]

ah, so basically just making it so that the splash only hits one by making Shanako hit only one.

Like, literally this could have only been avoided by just saying I had to aim it manually.

[covert spoke]

.

[quiet raft]

thank you.

[covert spoke]

.

[west perch]

.

you need to learn this for kkg also

so that you can control groggy

[quiet raft]

that does not go through because it's kind of the last thing I thought of when told that, of course you target the one at the back but then you hit the others at the front, unless specifically told to position to avoid all others

[west perch]

cuz mindlessly splashing will only get you to be stuck in p2 hell

[sonic crater]

tbf they arent doing lunatic no?

[west perch]

eh, tor still can be trouble without making use of groggy

[steady prairie]

from the sounds of it they're also lacking buffers so

[quiet raft]

Ah, yeah, I got that from the causew guide, that delaying groggy was preferrable

[steady prairie]

bad shanako management is still doom

[west perch]

like imagine they just enter groggy with no shanako gauge and no cost

[quiet raft]

will just have to position her at edge

[candid gust]

headpat

[candid gust]

as long as she only reaches the attack one

[sonic crater]

color me surprised i thought they just gonna do ins or lower kurokage

[steady prairie]

edge it some more

[quiet raft]

Misaka

[magic reef]

i love edging

[candid gust]

and i love grass

[stuck valley]

didn't we have to edge in yesod raid too

with shanako so she doesn't accidentally hit 2 pillars and off your whole team

[quiet raft]

dang, this really is edging it

[candid gust]

yea that's the one

kill it

[stuck valley]

also what does the turret on our side do

do you have to keep it alive or something

[pallid inlet]

[stuck valley]

[summer dew]

i actually just shoot through the AR amas there because worst case i just need to restart 2-3 times

[sonic crater]

yeah

[candid gust]

what a funny question

i can't stop laughing

[sonic crater]

but since u kill everything so far, kind of just time attack

[pallid inlet]

[candid gust]

have you ever let it die

[covert spoke]

im about to get real discriminatory against illiterates

[candid gust]

[stuck valley]

I don't know where to read

[candid gust]

just let it die

[stuck valley]

but it doesn't die

[candid gust]

you will see

go afk for like 1 minute

[stuck valley]

it enters auto repair mode for some reason

[quiet raft]

I think you are just about to everyone with a pulse.

[stuck valley]

but it dies afer that

[covert spoke]

but then i remember not everyone is english native speaker

[quiet raft]

[sonic crater]

nori u need to remember

we have day 1 JP player

doesnt know how to refresh pvp shop

BA player and being literate dont go hand to hand

[covert spoke]

japan casual server

[pallid inlet]

[stuck valley]

I do read though don't get me wrong

but like

[pallid inlet]

Different skill players

[summer dew]

more players = more casuals, simple as that

[covert spoke]

yeah

more players = more malders too

more players = more standard deviations on either side

[stuck valley]

I genuinely don't know what it does though

[covert spoke]

and good lord the random borrows during jp world event were an eye-opener

[stuck valley]

Why laugh

[sonic crater]

i love whenever people make discussion for extra content about engaging gameplay and i had to sit down for a few sec

and having vietnam war flashback

of what these playerbase capable of

[covert spoke]

the amount of ue60 t4/t5/t3 3218 units

[sonic crater]

tbf i remember i got trapped in this newbie guide

how go all in on hat hand and shoes as casual

and now i have excess of it

[covert spoke]

ehh

[sonic crater]

and lacking pin bag

[covert spoke]

thats unfortunate

at least its not the reverse

[sonic crater]

true.....

[spice basin]

It does some dmg and you have to keep it alive or else you lose

[obsidian heath]

griefing guide

[covert spoke]

already grim with how many low level bags we have

[sonic crater]

tbf this game doesnt have guide to bridge between casual and raider

[tender olive]

Man

[sonic crater]

not unusual but eh

[empty verge]

Rank 9, but everyone above has eimi

[sonic crater]

it is what it is

[quiet raft]

S.mika borrow did 81k, yeah, not worth it due to buff lack and crit dependant

[sonic crater]

u suppose to keep it alive cuz it does some damage and in some jfd the robot is the top damager

[covert spoke]

and u lose if it dies

[sonic crater]

yeah

[spice basin]

[tender olive]

This sometimes makes me wanna pull a banner just for an elephs lol

[stuck valley]

wtf why are you so brick

[sonic crater]

wow

rabu

[stuck valley]

please tell me thats cope lmao

[spice basin]

MY SMIKA ISN'T BUILT LIKE YOURS

[pallid inlet]

What round are y’all in on the box event?

[sonic crater]

it is what it is

7

[covert spoke]

smika on lvl 2 😟

[pallid inlet]

I’m halfway through 5

[tender olive]

Having not enough students is kinda hard

[spice basin]

Just look at her

[west perch]

I've been spending half my AP on hards

[covert spoke]

thats all wasted invest

shes essentially lvl 1

[stuck valley]

at least get your team 3 to clear stage 3 or something

even I did it

[west perch]

so i delay getting box 8

[pallid inlet]

I’ve spent some on hards but not half

Looking at the other shop currencies

[west perch]

I'm just getting box 8, gifts, & wolfseggs

[sonic crater]

just take ur time
this chat is full of raider anyway

[spice basin]

They were necessary for my missions

[stuck valley]

oh that makes sense

[steady prairie]

im still not done with gifts

[pallid inlet]

I guess gifts, t4 cubes, maybe t4 golden relic

[steady prairie]

kinda just there on box 4 rn

[covert spoke]

only farming stage 9

[steady prairie]

considering furniture because I'm probably gonna blitz through the boxes faster than i think

[pallid inlet]

[summer dew]

[stuck valley]

:kikiball:

[west perch]

and that's why I'm doing hards

[stuck valley]

[steady prairie]

actually no maybe i should just buy artis that's more synthesis value

[sonic crater]

oh right i can clean shop

[covert spoke]

only at 75% bonus

[west perch]

box event is actually just

[pallid inlet]

Since drops on stage 10 and 11 too

When can I consider moving to farm those

[stuck valley]

my cope rot on t3 has iori, shasumi and thasumi still clears stage 3

get a suppo to your team 2 and build your meeka

[spice basin]

I'm not building more for a jfd

[pallid inlet]

I guess only Kei and iwak needs the t4 phaistos after I was done with d hina

[past spruce]

[stuck valley]

reasonable

[pallid inlet]

Kei only needs max ex and sub yes?

[spice basin]

and your thasumi is also built you whel

[stuck valley]

shes blu though I don’t think she’s better than my srenge

here at least

[spice basin]

Idk man all I know my iori and thasumi are also crap cause I haven't used them

[west perch]

you haven't used iori?

[tender olive]

Yoo AI google is that kinda broken?? Thats why i rather ask here instead

[stuck valley]

are you like hoarding resources for something

[covert spoke]

always wrong machine gives always wrong answers

[west perch]

you do know that they don't actually understand anything about the game right?

[spice basin]

Nope

[west perch]

are you even a newbie?

[fleet narwhal]

Yes

[stuck valley]

:clueless:

[tender olive]

I always relay on my own research ever since i was studying

[spice basin]

Wdym by that

[tender olive]

Sometimes discord kinda confusing u know cause everyone got sides and i understand that

[west perch]

they are just word prediction machines

[empty verge]

Last night I had a dream about clearing kurokage

[steady prairie]

extreme?

[magic reef]

gws

[west perch]

stringing together words that make sense, not truly understanding what the content is

[spice basin]

I've only cleared up until the first comms stage that gives purple reports

[stuck valley]

same

[empty verge]

Lunatic

[stuck valley]

but commission is scam anyways

[spice basin]

And my semi built shasumi and momoi that was for chesed were enough

[pallid inlet]

2x rewards and last stage is decent

[magic reef]

grok generate me a team and timeline that can 1pan kurokage lun

[pallid inlet]

🐟

[empty verge]

Saw a shanakolet lunatic so, surely my first shanako team + some extra fodder can bring it down to 92 MM

[steady prairie]

dude this is a bad bad bad idea

[obsidian heath]

imma need a source on the shanakolet lunatic

[stuck valley]

gork is this true

[obsidian heath]

there was one lunatic without double shanako

[empty verge]

This is what I mean

[west perch]

it was doable before ue60

and hikari

[steady prairie]

they suggested haruna (gym)

[west perch]

mido did double yukari lunakage on global

[steady prairie]

[pallid inlet]

How many credits do you get from the current event?

[stuck valley]

in shop?

many

[west perch]

single shanako is definitely doable post-ue60 hikari mreisa

[pallid inlet]

How much

[empty verge]

Yes yes keep saying that

Morale boost

[west perch]

35m including all 8 boxes and achievements

[west perch]

...? But it's true

just a mere fact

there's a reason why we can 2pan

[empty verge]

Please say its true without himari and nyfuuka

[magic reef]

yeah she'd seduce the cat so that the rest of the team doesnt get eyed

that works actually

[west perch]

what does himari and nyfuuka have to do with this

[covert spoke]

idk hes just being regarded as usual

[steady prairie]

hey at least it can back it up

[empty verge]

The first shanako and hikari team uses himari

[west perch]

you can literally throw anything to get to 90m and then shanako superteam

finishes

[empty verge]

Yes that anything includes himari

[west perch]

ok? And we have 6 teams without himaro

[covert spoke]

why are u talking

[west perch]

at bare minimum

heck

I can make 8 teams excluding shanako super team & himari

2 of which survive 4 minutes in p2

[empty verge]

I'll PayPal you £50 if you make me teams that make it go down to 90

[west perch]

...?

[covert spoke]

hit up actual deer

[magic reef]

😭

[west perch]

i can make teams, I can't make your account

obtain things it doesn't have

[empty verge]

Have ue60 b46 shanako, hikari, chare, etc for team 1

[west perch]

???

[steady prairie]

[west perch]

UE momiji, yukari, ichika

[covert spoke]

but you lack the abilities to execute either way

[west perch]

where's csena mreisa kokona

heck even atsuko and hifumi

[empty verge]

Yeah but the purple ones are lvl 1

[west perch]

making teams is easy

you don't have the invest to throw

[opaque dagger]

Bro you don't even understand the teambuilding, nor do you know what is actually needed/where you can cut corners, you just blindly copy whatever UE60 JP oldges run

[steady prairie]

[empty verge]

Yeah I need to look at the mechanics

[west perch]

heck I don't even need to give you teams

[empty verge]

Surely can't be that hard

[west perch]

just watch causew

[obsidian heath]

lunatic becoming more accessible was a mistake

[quiet raft]

ran out of buffers at team 3

[west perch]

https://www.youtube.com/live/hFGx_-DEKis

[grim finch]

only 11h stream

[empty verge]

Bruh

[magic reef]

kurokage is f2p

[west perch]

pre-hikari ue60 mreisa

no sseia either

[magic reef]

2pan team comp are all human rights characters except kikyou but kikyou is hot so ig she does count as human rights

[hallow plank]

This message may invite scammers.
Having a team is merely a first step.
You still need to understand the mechanism, make a good rotation, execute the rotation well, know your groggy targets, etc.

[empty verge]

Does ue50 mreisa ue60 hikari work?

[covert spoke]

guys can i get any homework for yesod with no noa, no saki no msuzumi and no smika and 4* wakamo

[west perch]

y'know, seeing you ask that I don't even have the confidence you have the execution to do the simple 90m team

[rocky cosmos]

causew was playing it the wrong way tbh he should have just borrow daru!

[magic reef]

no Bro both need to be ue4

[grim finch]

no need execution just copy hw video free clear

[empty verge]

To find something explicitly, its best to first guarantee its existence

[covert spoke]

thats dogshit invest lmao no wonder you're broke

[west perch]

"pre" means before btw

what I meant was "before ue60, hikari, or mreisa existed"

[empty verge]

Ik

[west perch]

ok

So why the hell was your response that

[covert spoke]

because hes very low iq

[west perch]

y'know what

lost cause

[empty verge]

I just can't bring myself to grind for 10h unless I know for a fact the team can win if I get mechanics right

[grim finch]

yuzutrend

has 1000000 teams

[empty verge]

I've looked at every team

[covert spoke]

my lunatic clear had no results on yuzu trends

for yesod

[west perch]

so you can't bring yourself to play the game

got it

[empty verge]

Haven't seen any down to 90 with one shanako team without himari

[covert spoke]

it doesnt mean that much if you can understand how the teambuilding works with mechanics and rot

[empty verge]

And without nyfuuka

[covert spoke]

thats just a case of not understanding statistics

but your invests in general are too braindead that you will unlikely be able to run strong enough teams to fill the deficit

[west perch]

no, they can.

they definitely have enough but they just want a solution handed to them

instead of figuring it out

on their own

[empty verge]

That's a contradiction with the implication that led to your previous claim

[covert spoke]

nah like

no its not

[magic reef]

bro just whale and ue60 everyone bro copy jp hw straight bro it's that easy bro

[west perch]

post-ue60, shanako in kkg is ridiculous with the right execution
They just don't want to mock

[empty verge]

Either I'm right and I can't do it with my units, or it can be done and I don't understand that teams outside yuzutrends can do it

[west perch]

just another kazama

[empty verge]

Pick one

[covert spoke]

or you can do it with your units had you the skill and equipment, but you've pissed away all your resources and cannot

[empty verge]

Ok, so
units (my definition) = (units (your definition), skills, equipment)

[obsidian heath]

anyone got popcorn?

[covert spoke]

.

5 month old ahh unit building

[empty verge]

You're confirming I can't do it

[grim finch]

that looks funny but not the worst

[faint jay]

BA is under maintenance right now?

[west perch]

walking into lunatic with 12m creds

[magic reef]

no

[faint jay]

Oh okay it's just me

[stuck valley]

no ur banned

[covert spoke]

you personally cannot, no

[faint jay]

Imagine xd

[rocky cosmos]

that's rude to 5 months

[empty verge]

Could you do it with my account and investment?

[obsidian heath]

12M credits right after comms week

[covert spoke]

was going to say aether could

[stuck valley]

well not really banned but if you're in a country where ba is restricted and download the small initial package without a vpn you're device banned

figure it out

[faint jay]

What

[covert spoke]

its more humble

[west perch]

depends if they have csena/mreisa already invested

12m creds is painge

[empty verge]

Mreisa is ue50

[stuck valley]

just sayin

[faint jay]

I'm a bit new (2 months) and i had no problem for now

[west perch]

I've never been that poor

[grim finch]

ue50 mreisa

wild

[west perch]

MMMM T101010 B20+?

[covert spoke]

i mean you'd retroactively gain credits and rsc by not making bad invests is what I'd assume

[obsidian heath]

is bond a serious requirement

[west perch]

it's 5% more healing

[empty verge]

M9MM T 1/10/9 (iirc) B19

[covert spoke]

lmao

[rocky cosmos]

I did krkg with b7 csena
A little bit less bond is fine

[covert spoke]

the t1 boot

[west perch]

oh wait, was b20 2.5% right?

[stuck valley]

get to b50 gets you a nice buff but after that it's waifu purposes

[covert spoke]

20-30 bond is pretty mid

[west perch]

anyway, half of bond stats is gained at b20 so it is an easy investment relatively

[grim finch]

maybe i will ue40 mreisa instead of csena cuz its cheaper

[stuck valley]

I wanna bond chase but idk if I should craft now

[obsidian heath]

~1.5% healing

[stuck valley]

and idk who to raise

[pure vessel]

hello gpd

nunny.

[pure vessel]

goodbye

[stuck valley]

what

[rocky cosmos]

Nah every b20 you do is less bond for waifu
Just let it get there naturally

A little bit less stat won't kill you

[west perch]

I b30'd thermite pink automatically anw

[stuck valley]

does this mean I wait until they get to b20 naturally and feed em

?

[covert spoke]

not really

[west perch]

It'd be the same result either way

[stuck valley]

yeah-

[covert spoke]

if they are only 3* though, and you dont want to eligma them, then you shouldnt give them any gifts

[rocky cosmos]

No
If you planning to feed them then feed them from the start

If you dont have plan then don't touch them at all

[empty verge]

So with what teams would you be able to get kurokage down to 90 with my account ? @covert spoke

[stuck valley]

I don't have a specific student that I like though... guess I'll wait

[obsidian heath]

paypal him 50 pounds before asking

[west perch]

loaded question without any justin planner

[covert spoke]

your account would look very different if i had it

[rocky cosmos]

You can always be meta bonder! (Eww)

[west perch]

I just bond too many

[pure vessel]

but what if I want to touch my students

[empty verge]

You said that when i asked assuming my current investment

[grim finch]

touch urself

[covert spoke]

no

[rocky cosmos]

You are whel you can touch every one

[covert spoke]

assuming your current roster

and reset investments

[rocky cosmos]

If I was given your account like 2 month ago I can clear it
At current state no

Something like this

[west perch]

I didn't include rio brio and tri-toki either

[stuck valley]

I'm buying only eimi eleph in jfd shop along with the artifacts for my future builds-

I'm thinking of buying fusion keystones

[covert spoke]

yeah buy em

[stuck valley]

right

[empty verge]

...

[covert spoke]

choice selectors burn through a lot

[stuck valley]

andddd 0 jfd coin officially

I get 345 a day and there's like 5 resets left

still rich

[west perch]

us being on acceleration has been a bit awkward for shops though

the coins for yesod TA is for next month's shop for me

[empty verge]

With my current investment, what is the probability that a uniformly chosen lunatic clearer could do it?

[stuck valley]

wait hiero is next week already?

[pallid inlet]

Yes

[empty verge]

Yes

[pallid inlet]

[covert spoke]

do you think an account like this would be able to spare ligma to ue40 ichika, kasumi, etc for krkg chip teams

[stuck valley]

hieroine

[west perch]

I wouldn't choose to engage further

[pallid inlet]

Eyes on the prize

[stuck valley]

ritsu

[empty verge]

I understand my investment is bad and that with different choices I might have been able to do it.

I'm just asking if I have a good chance of doing it if I master the mechanics

[spice basin]

If this was that acc ty for the ue60 dsaori before

[steady prairie]

aether can i confirm sth

does krkg summon also ignore shields

[west perch]

foxes? Yeah

[covert spoke]

the fox spirit

[steady prairie]

Aight

[pure vessel]

oh rihgt

did they

pull krkg forward a week

[west perch]

they did

[pure vessel]

ayo

[steady prairie]

im planning on using mari for basic mainly anw it's probably fine

[pure vessel]

A C C E L E R A T E

[west perch]

now it's on week 1 takane

[steady prairie]

yeah week 1 takane

7/4

[covert spoke]

had your investment been good and you mastered the mechanics and you spent extra invest then yes possibly though i do not know your full roster and it would take quite a few extra teams, which you may not be able to manage

[empty verge]

Assuming my current investment...

[covert spoke]

no, also i dont think you'd master the mechanics either

[empty verge]

Okay

[west perch]

just saying, you almost always need to invest more to clear new lunatic
you being at 12m creds just turns your chances to near-zero

[empty verge]

Thank you

[west perch]

that's my main gripe. It's not even your current investments

you're walking into a lunatic without any backup

[opaque dagger]

Well, he did just raise Neru School to UE40 for a raid that's 4 months away

So...

[covert spoke]

uneru was just used on yesod though

and ue40 is fine

[opaque dagger]

Ye but why now, when there's Kurokage after this

[covert spoke]

uneru is decent kurokage

[opaque dagger]

Like, Neru School investment is fine and all, but imo timing matters when you're this broke

[covert spoke]

raising fests to ue40 is not poor invest

[empty verge]

I decided against it a week ago, but I got told yesterday about the "super team" that inflicts 92 MM, which I can run. So I got too excited looking at teams that can bring kurokage down to 92 MM, because I am only missing Himari for that basically

[covert spoke]

raising random 3* dps to 90 is

[opaque dagger]

But timing matters

[west perch]

too late

[opaque dagger]

Raising something that's used 2 months later when you haven't even confirmed next month's raid is just lmao choices

[empty verge]

Yeah I'll just mock battle to see if I can do it without Himari (one team used Ue50 shanako and mine is better, so maybe I can make up for it), and if I can't after 5-10 tries I'll do torment

[empty verge]

As i said, I had confirmed to do only torment on kurokage

It was new info yesterday that made me have some hope I could do lunatic

[opaque dagger]

As I said, there's never a rush to raise DPS that you aren't using immediately, learn to hold back

[obsidian heath]

we generally plan for luns months in advance since that's what global foresight is for

[summer dew]

5-10 tries sounds like poking someone unconscious with a stick and saying they're fine

but i mean, you kinda know pretty soon if it's impossible or not

[opaque dagger]

You're not rich in resources, you need to learn to be stingy and raise students only when needed

[covert spoke]

we have yesod (uneru good) - > kurokage (uneru not good but okay p1/3 throw) -> urban yellow kaiten (uneru busted) - urban yellow srkr (uneru busted) - urban yellow hiero (uneru busted) -> world raid (uneru busted)

and a boat

[opaque dagger]

That is implying he used Neru School on Yesod at all

[west perch]

me prepping debut lunakage a full 6 months in advance

[opaque dagger]

Like, could've just raised her after Kurokage

When you're on 12m credits you should be operating on a per month basis instead of throwing 40m into something you're not using within the month, is the point

[hollow saddle]

Same for me but hod & yesod

[opaque dagger]

Even I am thinking of raising my own Neru School, but just haven't committed yet. Already prepped everything needed, just waiting for the right time to commit

[covert spoke]

i think he did though

[opaque dagger]

Most likely Yellow Chok

[empty verge]

Which students did you raise?

[empty verge]

No I didn't, it was only for upcoming yellow raids

[opaque dagger]

I am pretty sure Neru School was levelled yesterday

[summer dew]

me not prepping for anything new but instead catching up on past debt and coping with hairloss

[covert spoke]

oh right he was looking at lunatic lmfao

[empty verge]

I'll plan for yesod lunatic next time once I get wakamo

[opaque dagger]

Quite literally, this morning

[covert spoke]

yeah okay well

[hollow saddle]

....

[steady prairie]

wow

[opaque dagger]

That's why I said his spending plan is terrible

[covert spoke]

i was under impression she was used for pillarbreak yesod

i mean, uneru does see a ton of use but yeah you'd just raise after kurokage

[marble gust]

chok f119 incoming

[covert spoke]

or even during kurokage if you were to use her

[west perch]

credits & eligma - csena shanako ichika daru
eligma - kisaki rio bhoshino
credits - kikyou momiji reisa nyharuka
selector on reisa

and all those I invested only on the week of the raid

[covert spoke]

dont quite understand the ibuki but

[empty verge]

I can run the super team and a standard boshi cleanup team. Then first team without himari

[west perch]

think total was like 250m creds & 3k eligma?

[hollow saddle]

without himari

[empty verge]

Yeah, that's the key

😭

[grim finch]

:haroldkekhic:

[west perch]

the fact that "without himari" is the problem is hilarious

[covert spoke]

all the units are 5MMM 999 or higher with respective UE and just missing himari

[west perch]

you can't just 3pan p1?

[covert spoke]

this is awful teambuilding btw

[empty verge]

I've been looking for teams, so far I'm 40% yes 60% no

[opaque dagger]

Pretty sure without Himari you got other ways, might need an extra team but that's it

Without Kisaki, now you've got real problems

[west perch]

...?

[empty verge]

The issue is my only other raised purple striker is s mika

[grim finch]

[empty verge]

I could get momiji (shes ue30 ) with good gear

But that's about it

[west perch]

just don't

you have zero prep

with zero credits

[warped surge]

Raising Momiji is the definition of a luxury indulgence

[west perch]

at best, what? 1 student?
And you're already confident that you can do 92m on the superteam with no issues whatsoever

[hollow saddle]

Investing lunatic from fresh is hellish expensive

[opaque dagger]

You sealed your fate with that Neru School invest

[covert spoke]

do it bro you've got this

[opaque dagger]

So now you just settle for Tor and move on

[west perch]

as if you won't run into ANY problems doing the superteam

[empty verge]

No ibuki oshigure, maybe I can replace oshigure with shanako, what about ibuki?

[covert spoke]

yes for sure

jsut raise momiji now

ue60 if possible

[opaque dagger]

Wait, is that first team even needed?

I thought 2nd team does enough dmg

[marble gust]

is ue30 kok basic human rights

[grim finch]

do we donate him 8k pakeji if he clear luna

[worthy charm]

yes

[stuck valley]

hiero mechanic sounds simple.
what color will there be?

[worthy charm]

red and blu tor

[stuck valley]

red blue purple ?

[opaque dagger]

Red/Blue Tor and Purple

[covert spoke]

4* at very least

[marble gust]

ok i'll do that

[stuck valley]

I hope I can clear 3 insanes

[covert spoke]

but ue30 kok is pretty human rights

[stuck valley]

prob not

[worthy charm]

whats the terrain for hiero btw

is it toki hiero or dhina hiero

[empty verge]

How much damage do you expect that first team did?

[opaque dagger]

Imagine thinking Indoor Hiero will exist

[calm flicker]

Urban

[worthy charm]

i mean, on GA it could....

[marble gust]

i need to refresh and hoard for double normals

[covert spoke]

17m

[opaque dagger]

It's 2026, Indoor Hiero/Hod/Pelolo don't exist anymore

Complete myths at this point

[pallid inlet]

Lost media

[worthy charm]

ive never even experienced indoor hod

[summer dew]

i believe in indoor boat

[empty verge]

No I realize I would likely fail even with all the units, I just find it pointless to try if I have zero chance even in the best case scenario with my current units

[grim finch]

[covert spoke]

you have zero chance

[west perch]

that's like the super catch 22

[grim finch]

aceept failure and try again next time

[west perch]

you can't find out you have zero chance if you never tried in the first place

[covert spoke]

eh

[pallid inlet]

What’s wakamo gonna do? Drive a whole hovercraft inside a building?

[covert spoke]

you can have an idea

[marble gust]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-raid-blue-archive-hovercraft-indoor-blue-archive-indoor-blue-archive-hovercraft-blue-archive-wakamo-raid-gif-257538015427138968

[summer dew]

Don't crush my dreams, you gotta believe harder

[covert spoke]

like assassin doesnt have to mock to know he cant clear lunatic krkg

[west perch]

honestly why am I even

they don't even want to create their own teams

just want spoonfed teams

[empty verge]

I do

[pallid inlet]

I know damn well I can’t clear lunatic kurokage

[empty verge]

I'm looking at videos to get an idea of what can inflict 17 MM

[opaque dagger]

Not wrong

[covert spoke]

likewise if you havent got credits to raise a single dps, yet you need to build 3 or 4 throw teams to make up for lacking roster

[marble gust]

i can probably but im not interested in another imarilet experience

[covert spoke]

dont u have oshig

[summer dew]

I could totally clear lun if i just had rio hikari imari mreisa and some 6k ligma

[opaque dagger]

Bruh you can easily 3-4 team this no?

[marble gust]

is 2 special healers enough

no csena too

lol

maybe atsuko koharu team 1?

[empty verge]

With sMika and non-purples?

[covert spoke]

are u pulling takane

[marble gust]

idts anymore

shes not bis for tiph so whatever

[covert spoke]

this a little surprising

[marble gust]

hope spook

[opaque dagger]

Not you, I'm talking about Arch

Surely half of the Pelolo prep is usable here no?

[marble gust]

yea it looks more doable than before

but eh

crossing p2 is cancer

wtf shosh

[covert spoke]

theres also smika skanna rio shun option

[opaque dagger]

Does this involve targeting one of the shadows

[covert spoke]

yeah you just st

[round kayak]

she lives pretty well with mreisa

[marble gust]

eh 94/120

[covert spoke]

cheap

[marble gust]

dont u kinda need to spam mreisa

[round kayak]

not really

[marble gust]

or shosh cost regen covers it

[covert spoke]

mreisa not gonna die

[round kayak]

mreisa is pretty tanky

[marble gust]

yea but 22s is eh

oshig is 1.5x longer

at least

[covert spoke]

yeah but the mreisa cost reduction makes it nice

[marble gust]

oh i forgo that

[covert spoke]

the longer the fight the more it evens out

[empty verge]

How much damage do you think that second team can do?

[pure vessel]

lmao

desperately getting mileage out of my ue50 nagusa

this jfd is pretty easy to 140 coin without borrows thankfully

[covert spoke]

you know what would be really fucking funny

if ayame is 1:1 nagusa kit but 33% higher numbers

[opaque dagger]

Ye even I got nearly 250k pts, and one of my teams is Hasumi Track lmao

[empty verge]

I had one kuroko noa izuna team

[fallen scroll]

ayame nearly got no-diffed by nagusa so i doubt that could be the case

[pallid inlet]

Uneru does about as well

[summer dew]

i used dsaori as st

[fallen scroll]

chat

[pallid inlet]

Gimmicks of this drill is no joke

[fallen scroll]

should i redeem aris

[worldly sun]

jfd so slacc

no momiji borrow so no double 90

[empty verge]

I'll copy your shanako team

[covert spoke]

have u tried shiggy over ochin

idk if she'd buff momiji or if the acc penalty would be mald

[worldly sun]

ochin is for smika to aa kill front bot before momiji goes off

makes it a bit less crit req

cos low momiji

also shigure is like 60s startup, don't think she goes off in time

[covert spoke]

yeah shes just for cost

ur ochin is max ex lvl 50 tho..?

[worldly sun]

yeah

[covert spoke]

hehe

have you used her as a sacc somewhere or just not much use

[stuck valley]

isn't momiji 2*

[worldly sun]

never needed her to survive anything but threw mmxx on her at one point for an event challenge

[covert spoke]

ah right

[worldly sun]

i think it was that kuroko tank one

that needed mmomoi

[covert spoke]

ive used her in boat and binah and she had to survive some missiles

[pallid inlet]

She was originally added with Meru, so she’s boosted odds on there

[covert spoke]

one maidmoi usage every other year

[pallid inlet]

Like s renge with skikyou

[stuck valley]

a 2* rateup then

[pure vessel]

oh man

[stuck valley]

rite

[pallid inlet]

Yeah

[covert spoke]

actually i think we will see a second maidmoi usage this year

[pure vessel]

I realized I didn't get a single momiji in my 400 magical rolls

lmao

still 177/200

[round kayak]

wait is that upcoming banner?

[covert spoke]

GA purple tor boat might be coming

[pallid inlet]

Yes

[stuck valley]

this is after idol rerun

[pallid inlet]

After idols

[round kayak]

I vaguely remember one like this before

damm

[pallid inlet]

We had one before

[marble gust]

is that avant guard in the back lmao

[pallid inlet]

First year of playing

[stuck valley]

oshigure worth?

[round kayak]

always had been

[stuck valley]

or minori

minori

[round kayak]

you dont pull for minori

[fallen scroll]

he had to aurafarm

[round kayak]

especially when smisaki is here already

[steady prairie]

always has been

where 90k

[covert spoke]

neither worth, neither bis, both perm

[round kayak]

stark how do I 90k

[strange ridge]

Whale

[strange ridge]

And bald

[round kayak]

easy enough thanks baldstark

[steady prairie]

comfy

took me and my friend 1 try today

[strange ridge]

Lucky dog

[stuck valley]

wtf

[round kayak]

~~ye cursed with bad crit next raid ~~

[stuck valley]

wish I had chare

[summer dew]

yea i noticed that today too on random lol

[steady prairie]

i'm gonna

[pallid inlet]

Me too

[steady prairie]

speedrun all 3 colors

[pallid inlet]

Just survive without chare

[steady prairie]

in 30 mins

[stuck valley]

spook soon ™

[steady prairie]

honestly next raid i straight up just have zero motivation

[pallid inlet]

If you spook chare before me then I’ll crash out

[steady prairie]

so skip

focus on krkg

[summer dew]

reminds me of the xdd emote

[round kayak]

I fully doubt that after you balded srkr

[summer dew]

[round kayak]

[strange ridge]

Subvitals your way in

[stuck valley]

whats the subvital thing yall talking about

[worldly sun]

well known charelet

has also been banned from here

[inner valve]

if i get kicked out from club do i get CD ?

[round kayak]

rip subvitals

[worldly sun]

silenced for speaking the truth

[stuck valley]

Is it better for me to not know

[strange ridge]

What truth?

[round kayak]

what did he even crashout for again?

[covert spoke]

nothing he was scapegoated

[worldly sun]

i dunno i thought it was just posting

[hollow saddle]

[strange ridge]

What even happened?

[steady prairie]

you want me to bald with this smika?

[strange ridge]

I don't know

[round kayak]

go borrow one.....

[grim finch]

yes bald

[round kayak]

literally top #24 on JP has UE 40 specials

[covert spoke]

just slacc 3 digit

[round kayak]

[strange ridge]

Stability issues and still UE40

[grim finch]

comfy 4 digit

[steady prairie]

you dumb! borrow is for fuyu and ue60 sseia!

[worldly sun]

i thought you were a tea party enjoyer, or is your allegiance only with Filius

[strange ridge]

Chances are, standard balding

[steady prairie]

I thought it's well known by now

[round kayak]

thats blue I meant purple

[steady prairie]

yeah purple need ue60 sseia

[worldly sun]

well i know that but i thought you might have diversified

[round kayak]

no way she needs UE 60

why even?

[strange ridge]

I only remember Stark being devoted to Miyo

[steady prairie]

lantern heal check

worse than daru

[round kayak]

wtf

alright im dropping ts

[worldly sun]

anyway sanctus best trinity faction, i will not be responding for further comment

[round kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1481906217998749706/moltensmh.gif

[marble gust]

4* k0k enough for tor?

[worldly sun]

yes

but cant brute force

unless with rio spam

then anyone can brute force

[steady prairie]

https://youtu.be/ZY_wR3C32Dw

[tawdry dune]

on what

[steady prairie]

i specifically recall ue40 sseia was not enough

[marble gust]

jerome

[worldly sun]

imari is slightly faster and ue40 lets her ex+basic lantern through debuff

[pallid inlet]

What does she even need ue60 for

[steady prairie]

healing stat

[strange ridge]

Extra,healing

[worldly sun]

but kok can easily double ex still which the imari basic is only 1 lantern

[summer dew]

hmm i know ue40 satsuko can bruteforce with ns but what about sseia + satsuko without ns

[round kayak]

huh thats not even UE 60 sseia?

[steady prairie]

[pallid inlet]

Are we deadass

[marble gust]

i got rekt

[tawdry dune]

idk about 4*, but UE30 worked fine for so many things from Set to Hiero. If you wanna skimp out on cost then maybe stick to that, but not once have I felt like I needed that UE40 Kok, unlike certain people (Seia, for one)

[round kayak]

stark what are you smoking now

[worldly sun]

4* kok has been fine for tor since the dawn of time

[steady prairie]

Things

[marble gust]

wheres the healing chart

[tawdry dune]

thing is hiero wasnt what pushed my kok to UE grade. It was Set

so i couldnt comment on whether UE is needed for kok on tor raids

[steady prairie]

eh nah i will not scorechase unless it's really dangling under my nose

which

i'll wait

this week kinda hectic

[worldly sun]

i ue30'd mine for toki hiero speedrun

cos nagi basic + kok bruteforce

[tawdry dune]

speedruns....

[worldly sun]

which needed like lb 25 heal kisaki and nagi

[tawdry dune]

the t_rexes in you calls

[empty verge]

Enough for what? There are clears with 3* sseia

[worldly sun]

brute force used to be precise, now its just rio it

[round kayak]

https://youtu.be/LF7vcY25_SQ?si=IXfv0MFo12rN1zpB
im just using this

[steady prairie]

[tawdry dune]

oh right speaking of hiero

[steady prairie]

no ue3 smika no gaming

[tawdry dune]

what are the borrows for hiero

need to know so i can put up for $$$$

[empty verge]

Toki, aris m / fuyu, s mika

Iirc

[tawdry dune]

m.yuzu?

on hiero?

news to me

[steady prairie]

im putting up imari and smika and it's kinda it

[marble gust]

ok this is diabolical

including stat transfers?

[empty verge]

Sorry, fuyu

[steady prairie]

noteworthy borrow this time is fuyu

[steady prairie]

this is exclude

[tawdry dune]

hmmmmmmmmm

[round kayak]

I dont have the luxury for that..........

[marble gust]

oh then wouldnt 3* be enough

[tawdry dune]

what does fuyu do besides def down again

or is it just skanna level def down but blue armour

[marble gust]

nvm its 500 not 50

[tawdry dune]

i could put up Noa

but idk if anyone who appreciate that...

im coping tho

[worldly sun]

the world if ue40 kok was healing:

[empty verge]

Attack speed I think

[tawdry dune]

less relevant for hiero vs yesod innit

[tawdry dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

okay, I.Mari, Noa and S.Mika it is

[round kayak]

@marble gust gotta ask how much investment do I need for kaede on F100

[worldly sun]

borrow my fuyu enbac

[round kayak]

you have fuyu durg?

[empty verge]

I don't know why it works

Don't have fuyu nor maid Aris, so I'll run s mika for blue

[tawdry dune]

on what, all the diffs

[round kayak]

fuyu is just pretty much blue armoured skanna

[tawdry dune]

but then idk if my DPS are sorted

[pale fractal]

purple attack, you kill lantern with her aswell

[empty verge]

Oh okay thanks

[tawdry dune]

I bet Hiero lun is gonna be like

[worldly sun]

what does she need to break lantern

is it ue

[tawdry dune]

demanding both Noa and Fuyu or something

[tawdry dune]

ol farmable humble reliable 🥺

[covert spoke]

bratty shasumi

[stuck valley]

Is there a pos where my sseia don't go infront of my Marina and eat bullets?

ah just use marina to repos

yeah

right

[steady prairie]

is this shiyori to snipe then hasumi

[covert spoke]

yeah

just need 15/15

[steady prairie]

[covert spoke]

the hiyori og angle is hard
well just very tight

i think i am forgetting and hiyori might not have ex on this acc

[marble gust]

ue40

u cant rio kaede

[round kayak]

yeah

but damm

[covert spoke]

yeah im stupid

[marble gust]

so gotta have giga kaede

[round kayak]

I need to wait next month

[round kayak]

alright thanks man

ill just wait for shop reset

[covert spoke]

thats better

[marble gust]

why not just try it with ue30 first

[round kayak]

well

im kinda broke in mats also

so I need to wait for next week

cant max her necklace

[covert spoke]

saori isnt that tall

[round kayak]

already watched this one, and I have come to a conclusion I am severly skilled issued in FRR

[marble gust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-awkward-awkward-cat-cat-awkward-gif-24906225

[round kayak]

cause why the fuck am I missing a few labours every time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1481906217998749706/moltensmh.gif

[summer dew]

167cm. Reisa is 153 and Kaede 142 hmmm

Same height as

[pallid inlet]

Kisaki is 142 isn’t she?

Also nezo what are you cooking

[summer dew]

Ye kiki 142 also

[pallid inlet]

So is hina

[worldly sun]

is this easier than tyuuka

[candid venture]

Same height same birthday. They are twin siblings fr

[marble gust]

every different strat has its own different mald

[worldly sun]

whats bad about this one

or is it just hard to rotate

[marble gust]

no rio?

[empty verge]

I'm fine with platinum, I don't care about rank too much

[worldly sun]

yeah but what makes that mald if you just copy the hw

[tawdry dune]

once you go plat, you never go back

good luck

[empty verge]

Can speed run purple and red I think

Have the top teams

But blue I'll have to cope with s mika

[marble gust]

i mean not like the position rng doesnt exist in this either

[empty verge]

Are you planning on another double digit?