#💬gameplay-discussion
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finally found the reason why wakamo keeps dying at 1:15. it's the t9 kaede shoes. the fucking shoes. AAAAAAAH🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
What are those?! 
the explosion just before the final right hand
ssg lunatic 
White vans ofc
surely i don't need a p1 cleanup team for the extra 1m right :clueless:
just prepare it
normal mika can probably get a mil or two if you're wasting a heal on her
is non-purple dps okay for cleanup team? i think i'm too poor to even raise the likes of s.renge or nagusa just to full 3* t8/9 gears 3777 skills
haruna might work
they won't break pillars
if you can 2pan luna surely you have the units for 3pan 
you probably can do cope dmg with breaking 1 or 3 pillar, but idk 
50m credits left lol
4 yellow star wakamo can do insane?
you need to buff them to break the pillar
and i haven't even built ny.haruka
it's all mostly hyperbuffers tho
😟
like don't tell me you don't have himari snagi seia sseia built
if you mean the buffers i obviously have them built
and made it 3 pan
...can't do that. no bkazusa no sizuna means there's pretty much only one strat to do p1 since i have to bring mari to p2

you have ihi-chan aka kanoe?
pillar hp is actually quite a lot lmao
unfortunately no
if you are not using smika/shanako/uneru
why don't they just make pillar free to dealt
Are you doing Luna?
Yuh 🗿
Its free for all
It’s free for you, you denosaur
wakamo keeps dying on this part (before the 3rd set of pillars. sometimes before the 4th)
idk the right rng for her to live because I lived through it a few times before lol
And it is free for you too my trex fren
Heal her
tbh maybe I should just heal her early depending on the hp
No no, we all trexes can do it
homework says to heal her at 5 cost, but sometimes at that point she's already dead
Just you

deno did you get hacked?
Embrace your nature my fellow scaly friend
Did you check the hw investments?
I embraced what we all are joey
We all are whales and kaijus here
my ue30 wakamo torment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUbkABbBYMo
Nuh-uh
Yuh uh, it is a simple truth
When will you do Luna?
double wakamo
On Friday prob
Aside from me failing to use Wakamo's EX on time and ending up sitting on 10-cost for a little bit, what else am I potentially doing wrong that's stopping me from killing Yesod P1 on time?
https://youtu.be/x2Z2Mlyea70
I'm not sure what's going wrong, but I cannot get 40.1m score like I hoped.. I can't seem to clear P1 like other players, and I also cannot pause on 2hp for the life of me..
cuz I cannot figure out what's going wrong 

huh, did we have the score calculation bug on day 2 as well?
pls x2 normal
im lacking so much shoes and hairpin
Ehhhh?!
ちょっとだけ手が空いたのでTormentはなんとか動画化。Lunaticをやる余裕はなさそう。
1凸目の大半は参考動画に倣っていますが、一部スキル回しを変えています。
※編集ミスがあったので再投稿しました。すみません。
■編成
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STRIKER
ハナコ(水着) ...
just not x3 speed
Geez
1st wave easy
I fibd tor p1 is more annoying af
1 thing I like about yesod is that no groggy bar so you don't have to calculate that
calculate?
2nd wave adhd pause spam to send 1st wakamo ex before 03:11.000 and not be stuck at 10 cost
The groggy bar is those yellow bar each pillar u destroy
That's my exact HW I've been using 
groggy bar has always been vibes or mechanics
anything else is bald
Yeah like certain groggy setup
you got the full rot?
yeah but you never really need to calculate any of that
Sometimes
Have to destroy this and that while dont let ur cost overflow
Or did i get traumatized by satsuki not critting enough in geb
thanks
the real groggy bar challenge on the balders is luna binah
well comfy daily tor hw
Snek stupid sandstorm mechanic making u do the lowest possible dmg
and that shit is really fucking important
no thanks, rather 3pan
my mikong and uneru are ue4 b50 surely binah comfi

on clear yeah
It amazing ins is top 3 digit
you still stab mald that groggy bar on speedrun
Tho im gonna get kicked out later
speedrunning 
ikr
2023 user
Tell me then i follow the pattern, sometime snek doesnt get stun
Like 98% groggy bar left


Very nice.... Check arena... 10 defense won in a row making me no need to spend ticket on pvp
nice midori
Nah they nerfed him already
The big snek is no longer have stability debuff
Imagine bringing multi hit girl like her
So many whale luna clearer
Alright, good luck~ ^^
you just pretty much need to meet the basics in p2 and you're fine
and also stable healers
but p1 true complex
Failing a mechanic in p1 means instant death
dude they prepped like 10 cool atk animatiions for yesod
and almost none of them deal lethal dmg except for the invisible dot
like

Bro forgot the first shot that keep killing non maxed Wakamo
fym this does like 0 dmg
That thing is lethal if u have unbalanced tower
he succ
oh i just realized his chest remains open after wave 3

Good luck to you too !
I await all clear posts from everyone in gpd, please ping me your luna clears


I'm still a baby 
Nonsense, anyone that visits gpd is a kaiju the size of joey
Nonsense
Everyone here is a baby bc a 5 year old is still a baby
No amount of whaling can overcome 3 years of missed content
Are you trying to say that Im no denosaur ?! That Im Babyno ?
Yes
Is that so...
Baby from prehistoric ages
3 years of whaling on content
4 years of f2p
Not even
Oh what is the DR of yesod on ext and below 95% or 99%?
If it’s BA, I am in a retirement home
F2p discussion hours
apparantly it's 99% on all diffs, but extreme- gets nerfed to 95% in world raid
That makes more sense
So causew video guide is wrong about the DR on ext and below
Based on the current yesod on global
the humble 20x refresh:
The humble pyroxene shop

This helper mentioning the forbidden shop 
Yeah, if you squeeze your savings dry, it's possible. Buying wellfair Elephs with eligma just hurts
Pulling 24/7
pull for ligma with 4800 packs
And then calling yourself f2p
I wonder how many are sold
Me true f2p, clear yesod luna by spending under 500 ligma!
Holy
‼️ 💢
Whats your kok like
During f2p hours everyone is f2p
Small kok
Ye i know but is she t101010 ?
shes 999 btw
eligma is unlimited !
I cleared originally with ue30 t999 but it was sussy
p1 also f2p, all human rights or farmable characters
Saki f2p
lowkey true!
I don't have saki, I can't do luna
you have rabu and tsubaki
Tsubaki is some Archangel cooking
Is that so 
why
tsubaki works and im somewhat amazed
Wdym, Tsubaki is not that much different
Didn't see anyone use her before
does yoshimi do the same
Contrary to popular belief, the Atk buff from Rabu's Basic isn't that impactful
yoshimi cc is too short, isn't it
It's like a 10s difference with and without on my team
If 4 cost and aoe fills cc bar, it's whatever
not too impactful but yeah upgrade it to lv4/7 is enough
Wait what about byosh
byosh is a dps dummy
Her self buff goes onto the drone
Ye, mine is Basic 7, literally 10s difference. That 10s might be the difference between 1 team or 2 team tho
If you 2 team from the get-go then Rabu/Tsubaki doesn't matter
self buff isn't gonna help that much
Oh
like u try bring ritsu on p2 yesod
its the same thing
I see
it's the same kind of self buff as aho
but aho also brings def down
and doesn't cost 10
Wdym, if you don't have Saki it's Tsubaki + Rabu nobraining for 2 team P2 even on Luna
Normal is f2p
@odd geyser i still don't get it 💀
Yeah, I see she's being used here and there. I'm kinda impressed
Tor/Luna those are your only 3 real options
You could use Hoshino or Miyako, I guess, but that's really cope
it's exactly why rabu exists so sakilets wouldn't be locked from doing lun
i have all the students req for lunatic
but i dont have the mats to build them 😭
Hoshino has to be very close to the left pillars to cc
Yeah and if you ff she'll end up too far
Could you use Chise Swimsuit?
Miyako being ST cc is very very awkward
No
2.7 seconds of cc
Pretty sure she hits everything unless the grenade radius is not enough
she's dead on arrival
red armor hairpin
Ah nvm that is at best Ins only
Also she won’t get the boosted cc duration because pillars can’t be cc
3x2.7s
5.4s hmm
If the 2 grenades chain on the left pillars
man
Insane strategy
:nezo: is dead
yo is that a real ue60 rei
Very impressive photo quality right there
Ye, there's only 3 real options
Saki rabubu tsubaki
Kayoko
And cope options include: Kayoko, Shokuhou Misaki, Chise Swimsuit, Miyako, Hoshino. Kotama Camp too high cost to be realistic
Ckot ST cc and 6 cost
Double fills the bar
Kayoko and Shokuhou are 6 cost/5 cost so not ideal, but viable. Chise Swimsuit 6 cost + Red armor means Ins at best. Hoshino has pepega targeting issues and Miyako is ST, but she's 3 cost so you actually can cope
Like, none of these sound like real options on Tor/Luna
Kayoko is probably the closest you have to a “viable” cc alternative if you have a cost reducer
man like
But with rabubu and tsubaki being free, that shouldn’t be much of an issue
When you're too broke to raise Rabu to have enough HP to survive Tor
Why can't I think of anyone else with > 5s cc
Because there's none 
Very few options
I literally looked through all of them when compiling this list
I searched it up on Plana Stats
No Chise Swimsuit on Tor (not surprised)
There are Kayoko, Shokuhou, Miyako, Hoshino and even Kotama Camp usages
Ckot usage is 
Pure insanity, but ye
If ur using ckot why not use someone who has 2.5-5s cc twice
You do
Like, might as well
Ye there are Yoshimi usages in Tor

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well ue50 with kok
cost down isnt as consistent so the like 1:29 wakamo is like 5s later cos you're at 0 cost then
was it a 7pan
gg
this lowk looks like it
4s too slow
5 pan
as it turns out
i see
iunno maybe
The only two options for that are Yoshimi and Suzumi I guess. Probably they have Kotama Camp raised for Hod and don't wanna raise the other 2, and coped. They were like "as long as I get through one hand, whatever"
But strange coping when you can literally run Rabu and Tsubaki both
Actually I forgot about Hare
i dunno its close

but i spend like an hour trying to get the p1 rot right cos its very technical
burnt a tix cos after i used preservation i misclicked luna 
do i
yes
do it
we are aobing it
would be somewhat ugly if i saw 3MMM
any fixes
hmm does anyone know with noa if you cancel her basic does she still get sub buff
cos it seems to apply after basic finishes but i think i half canceled her once and she still got it
so iunno
UE40 and not even maxed enhanced?
@odd geyser bruh as late as 26.000
also accidental kaede shield late?
but it works
Her sub skill applies when noa uses her basic, so if you cancel it the same frame her basic activates, the sub skill would still go off
now let's see if it isn't a fluke
Her sub skill is still up
I’ll go test it out and see how
Huuuh... mine is t1099 and she feels so squishy
what bug
@worldly sun I canceled noa basic the instant the text bubble popped up and her sub skill activated still
how long did it take for the ret to appear
instantly when it was cancelled or when she would have normally finished (4.6s)
Instantly when I cancelled it
oh nice
When you send Aoba right on Wave 4, sometimes Wave 5 right core does not fire missiles
Arch bug
Sending aoba to the right on wave 4 and 5 does something to the right core
literally no one above aoba can self sustain
except eimi but same range

dont have damn bnatsu
tix time of 40 mins still is p long eh 
I’m gonna try replicating the arch bug to see what really causes it
arch bug?
Missiles from right core not firing on wave 5
got rekt
Mika
nozomi breaking barrier feels mandatory up here
oh right i could just 3111 rabu and use her as is
NS is also good
well yeah but im nearly out of trinity mats rn. saving them for shifumi
I accidentally raised her ex to 5
I've already bought out trinity from both shops on all rarities
nice that I don't need to worry about wolfsegg tho
this event + yesod pumped out wolfseggs
Ye
got +20 the past week or smth
psmh whels...
What causes the missiles from yellow core to not fire missiles on wave 5 anyway

Can’t seem to replicate it in my testing
i've built almost all the wolfsegg students now 
I just don't have marina
Which marina
yes
So both
yes
marina hinata & swaka are the only permas left I don't have that have been around since I started playing
cuz I got these 2 last week 
still though i didn't expect bkaz to be a red eff buffer
13.88% more damage to byosh under shoshi
F124 red set
that's a lot of ue4 :aintnoway:
what the fuck
is the shield attack aoe??
What shield attack
Sticky bomb?
no
Force fields?
They’re not aoe
why tf my hikari got hit twice
ye ue2 shanako is too short for this
no?
ig the same for ue2 uneru
she received some unknown dmg before the force fields
Just before the force fields?
man how come a 3* srenge can pop pillar nonchalant and not a ue2 shanako
tiph is full of bugs
Force fields are not aoe
lemme upload in 4k
Is it the sticky bomb detonation
i doubt its that big wtf
Where is your aoba
Is that 5 strikers on field?
Assuming tiphareth used force field skill before you spawned mreisa
5 strikers and 6 force fields, hikari was chosen as the 6th target for the balls
this is so rigged
Was reisa on aoba necessary at that part?
i had no idea if aoba would survive
You couldn’t send her to left core?
S.Renge has alot of self buffs
bets on my own ue50 s.mika making it?
the one on my pic is a borrowed one
idk if stab mald
no units
is there any non-purple DPS that can destroy torment towers on yesod?
bryh
introducing uneru
i mean in p1
ty
1 ex neru 1/col
im assuming she doesnt need buffs?
yesod would love it
Suddenly glad my SHanako is UE60 seeing she’s missing pillar kills for some
Oh right Aetherpon
Hikari got double targeted by the force fields for some reason
wait, you're doing luna cjw?
After Hiero GA it’s Kurokage yeah?
ye
That’s my first lunatic
i realized it’s useless to go only millenium but at least i can use majority millenium in teams
oh
especially the levels when u need to use more than 1 team
shanako only has issues killing pillars in lunatic 
Oh lol
im happy kisakis on standard banner

i've never had issues with shanako killing the lanterns in lunatic
i still need her tho
Is any of the new bond gear relevant?
Nice investment return
Nothing really all that great
exclusive weapon 4* reached 240 times
sadge
Bkazoos seems great, so is asuna
Kirara and moe is lmao
Oh right hey joe
sup
Who do you think I am? Maple? 
wait bkazoos got bg?
Yes
I only have 1 ue60
Meh most of them are farmables I've have loads of fragments for already
i just didnt want to waste mats/credits
With BKazoo bond, I'll finally be able to do F50 of Set
my P1 is almost all UE60
Only to this time I realise in all student that when you first recruit them, they're under 3star, only S. Renge have different change if you up her to UE50 - instead of like other that improve warfare to B or A, she improve her Urban Warfare from A to S 
joe aren’t they cute
How
They will surely be useful someday! I didn't believe it, but then boom Mari in Yesod Tor
so is my P2
yippie
murasameeeee
wow her bg is actually good
So very cute
I see that deskmat hasn't been cleaned in a while 
Ye
Alright imma try torment later
Aside from EX and sub do I need anything else on NYharuka for these teams?
accidentally paused shucksy's vid and I got this as a frame
nyharuka basic is cdmg res shred too
I don’t think I can afford to max it tho
That’s the clean up team so
yea i guess it's fine then
I’ll see how far I can push it
Hmm I wonder how Yesod GA would work
I didn't even max her ex, I gave her 3 ex. As 2nd team is cleanup.
Supposedly team 1 can 1pan p1, I just didn't check any rotation and improvised myself.
Yellow Yesod probably could be done
(no time to upscore these 2-3 days)
Yeah I came very close with wanpan on p1 in mock it’s really tight
Wakamo dies real easy still ngl
Then you won't need to raise team 2 even that much, the good thing there that there is no wakamo so no survivability issues
scaling seems to be quite linear for the basic, no huge breakpoints until skill lvl 7
This is my nyharuka
🫂
bag
man I can do p1 but p2 is fcking impossible

You can't just use Akane tho?
huh
bro doesnt even know her kit
In p2 if you time out and didn't finish second hand yet, you can use a second team.
I used yesterday sizuna tsubaki dako (for basic) iwak serina (I forgot who else)
🥀
But like the D.Ako def down basic can't be that great for this scenario
hello balders, do you think these p2 teams are fine for lun, or should i change something
ssaki need like ue2 to live but that team doesnt even clear 1 hand
i need to mock first
remove tmari
Dako is used for def down basic

also u dont have enough cost for team 2
I'm saying why pick her over something like Akane or whatever
Assuming no Noa
Yeah agreed
red armor cant live without being a bag user
So Wakamo is suddenly a bag user?
she aint living 2 hand slam
she's a mari user
But Yesod is the only raid where Wakamo isn’t now outclassed
I forgot he's a professional ragebaiter
That's what I'm saying man

I didn't try akane so no idea but I would've tried to use her in p2 if she's my only choice (and if I've built her, which I didn't
)
Just use the Mari 

Also personally I’m using THaruna on the p2 team with Mimori
Should be fine
Ah right, you'll be fine survivability wise there then :3
i tried but i still do 0 damage and everybody dies to the slap 
Almost gatekeeper, 3rd Luna done
Smh
I only need to heal after each ATG yeah
I’m def not rushing Mari when I got built THaruna
No iwak too ?
Plus she’s only usable in this raid anyways
iwak mreisa cant help cuz sizuna used in mari team
do you have any striker heals that could survive? iwak sichika would be double bag specials
sichika 2cost ff
used all in p1
ah
both bnatsu and atsuko
What about koharu, can't she survive there ? With mari and sichika as specials
also, S. Ichika sounds just a little bit of crazy in her ex voice lines lmao
this team doesnt even clear 1 hand on tor how tf is it suppose to clear luna 1 hand
swap saki/rabu for sizuna/sichika
where pyuuka
i dont have her
Her hidden side shows up here
valid crashout if you see her EX cg
although it fucks my timing once a day I always have it on

what happened
riiiight
do u have tmari
no
😔
I've raised imari's necklace t10 since before last geburah ta
Scammed
welp it's too late now I've already cleared luna twice
I didn't give her t10 shoes or pins though
Clear it a 3rd time after giving her t10 necklace so you can have a more correct opinion about wakamo survivability there 
nah I ain't recording it another time 
shupos need constant babysitting but i think i can clear p1 with this cleanup team 
That
ssg
Is an interesting setup
t.yuuka shield is so fat
t.yuuka shield is so fat
Hey!

She's been working on that
Cut her some slacc
🥺

cut her some snacks
i wonder if we will ever get like an obese student
i guess not since the bullying would never stop

hold my beer
bready from nikke?
(no im not even trying to search)
they're not fat fat

In Asia they will consider that fat
yea well true, kinda
in murica its slim


only one acceptable kind of fat around here and it's morally questionable 
Idk if I can call Izumi fat when Kotori has a sloppier belly...
are you talking about
ur m
anyways arch

I burned pyrox on the banner just to get more eligma to burn on units for this raid and some not for this raid
WHAT are we doing bro-
if it isnt imarilet krkg id not do that

minelet too for the record
aoe def downs only work on proper teams
basunalet because im banning them all
if ur bodythrowing u dont need them
Smh why is Noa not farmable
Soon™
why iwak not farmable sadge
why himari not farmable sadge
She should be farmable rn because I want it!
i am confident in my kasumilet kikyoulet clear
How else am I going to get UE60
actually curious, would you rather farm ligma from archive banner or some other perma banner?
obviously you'd prefer limited/fes for that purpose but assuming you were in a pinch
why miku not farmable sadge
ayame would be good at 3*
ayame would do better
I'd rather farm ligma from a currently running banner since at least I could get something new
At 223 students chances of spooking something new are low
become 1600festpilled
mmm yeah i guess so

Imagine 1600 just to try and spook
1600 just because you get double eligma
Ngl might have to do 1000 pulls this fest instead of 800
Why is mari used in p2, is her shielding that good
We'll see how it goes
basic
if only I had ue2 oshig
HP Sub, Def Down, Shield
just bring kaede wtf
basic+ has defense down
2 slacc clears 
does ur kaede not shield azusa enough
u saying to me?
rip ig
Im still writing rot
koharu cant live
y'know what's fun
now that perma isaku is here, geb can rerun again
For the wakamo teams with no smika, why do they pick between kaede kanoe and mari tyuuka

i believe u have everyone here
looks obvious why
Is that tor
I have 5 tix rn, I could give it a try
wait, rena's way better than isaku for greg 
have to bring healer though, hm
uasuna healer
so rena idk
wait rena has a self-heal
yeah but
Kek can't build Kaede, i out of gear
shes also red
I spent a team to break one of p2's hands (sizuna + bhoshino team) on ins
just do this f2p team
i was having the same problem that's why i got a way to pass p1 without borrow and got a msuzumi on p2
Idk isaku just lives better
u can swap rabu for aspd and use saki
this look affordable
oh thank fuck i spent all day at work thinking i'd fucked up and had t9 bag on kaede
can live with t9 neck surely
f2p clear 
What does msuzumi have that other atk buffers don't..
idk read her abilities champ
i wonder 
Looks the same to me so I used onsen nodoka
guys i always fall behind like 800k-1m hp in p1 is it just bad smika stab
or maybe because wakamo only ue50
ye
guys you gotta rmbr who doesn't read here smh
must be strong fundamentals
stop talking to that guy hes just interaction baiting

I forgot to read other skills


Thanks for showing me seimi
I'm out of Trinity mats too..
Us f2p need to know how to read
Impossible challenge
build a millennium unit before millennium fes 🛐
Look fun in deed
It's not like there's any raid that's coming up that needs them
Look the conquest and frr is not real content
finally hit max today 
@round kayak i hate u calc that 3* srenge can pop pillar
I can still buy a lot of millenium mats in the mean time

MTG players 🤝 BA players
cant read
I thought you would've said Yugioh players
i only put 1 lesson in for wildhunt area now
Aris needs everything immediately

nah they can read, the thing is that they dont understand
B150 aris basic rights
we still have like 3 month to stockpile Millennium mats, if you buy out raid shop that plenty

"plenty"

I have a 6.7 cost in my tl
Why is my clear propaganded as f2p clear 
currently nearly bankruptcy Trinity mats cus i forgot stockpile

we are not looking at the same thing, are we 
Ez
Just be rich and have a big stockpile 

So you building bHimari, aRio, mechAris, Kei i presume?
u clear is kinda easy to copy if u are not bricked like me
Toki sure has become a lot more lazy these days
yeah nearly forgot buying millennium mats
Good for her
You need to buy more
yeah
still have 2+ shop reset to go
congrats
skipping 2 good units psmh
especially with 5 minutes left
ssg kaiju
wao means higher score than me, can't compete 🛐
my rot literaly got 100 miliseconds between failure or success 💀
also bhoshi last standing
also 4:30 minutes raid in one hour
thank goodness
But c'mon all it is, is simon says in P1 then focus fire with cc for P2
That's not that bad

p2 is just brain damage, i love it
P2 is giga free
Hmmm...is this a 1:30-1:40 P1?
these kaijus...
Never had an easier phase in my life
saying p2 is giga free...
it's nice that I still could clear with 10m hp left despite msuzumi and mimori died halfway
and then noa last shot
with bhoshi last standing
just 2pan, no thoughts


Anyone knows?
1pan also no thoughts
I can literally throw 4 teams at p2
You just let the turrents do all the work and CC. GG EZ
Of course
ok whel 
100% true f2p like me only have 4* MSuzumi
and while I know the 1pan is possible with 4*, i cba
But she's cute so I had to give her UE40
based behavior
23.5hours
I'll just dump a load of pyrox at fest and ligma her then
still haven't reach 200h

me spend less than 500 ligma this raid


hmm
this for luna
did u clear luna

I've spent like 3-4k plus 600 pulls into magicals
I don't count SMika from 4* -> UE30 an expense for this raid. That's 100% Mika bond transfer and I did that instantly
I count UE30 -> UE40 an expense tho
we f2p must grind 24/7 to keep up with the kaijus
i legit wouldn't ue smika and wakamo rn if not for yesod lmao
I gave Wakamo UE50 back for blue binah urban when she was the strongest blue dps
(due to bug)
ah the accumilation bug
pre bond-gear?
no regrets
i dozed off and had a prophetic vision of you posting that 30 seconds for you did
hmmmmm
easy upscore

I've truly had the best luck with binah urban GA

do the drones's dmg scale on my students stats or what 😭 😭
i cant even pass insane w this team


















