💬gameplay-discussion

[brave totem]

and Metal Garden too

[summer spire]

Cute raccoon

[true scroll]

easy asf

i'll jump right to f106

[marble gust]

🦖

[true scroll]

my friend said that should be enough for the strat

[woven sigil]

Shima Konoka

[wicked parcel]

Floor 24 is easier

[pliant kelp]

bs mentioned

[summer dew]

i guess it could work as a chair

[lone widget]

indie company yes

[summer dew]

i like rectangles

[lone widget]

surely i will get tons of purple next gacha

[summer dew]

do it

n1 purple furniture 🛐 thanks amashiro for the purple luck

[marble gust]

so scam

[pliant kelp]

1 boost ticket
gg

[stuck valley]

no purple wolfseggs

[wide basin]

U got purple?

I got like

1 so far

In all 3 stages farming

[covert spoke]

how

[lone widget]

daily done

now back to grass touching

[summer dew]

grass cult

[wide basin]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-gif-6112271

[frosty harbor]

hey guys, im applying to work at nexon as translator. what are your assessment on the translation quality of the english, and is there specific story parts you wish the translation would be fixed for? off the top of my head, i want to fix kikkyo relationship stories lacking the flirtatous lines that exist in kr and jp, and the railgun relationship stories. i want to document EN user's response for if i pass the document stage and reach interview stage

[woven sigil]

[summer dew]

i can't answer that question but i wish you luck

[frosty harbor]

why not

ㅠㅠ

[stuck valley]

If they move forward to your application you better do a good job

I'm here to criticize

[summer dew]

it's a difficult question

[stuck valley]

[covert spoke]

I dont know how much is a choice and how much is just missing work

[frosty harbor]

as my friend told me, between blue archive and chaos zone nightmare, i should save blue archive first because its a more important game.

[covert spoke]

translation is only part of localization

[frosty harbor]

i worked as translator for 19 years

[wicked parcel]

I don't read

[covert spoke]

and they would be deciding how they want it localized i think

[frosty harbor]

omg...

[frosty harbor]

i want to appeal to yongha to have mercy on the en players losing out on true student characteristics because of awful en tls

[covert spoke]

if you were to say "i think players would be quite understanding of koyuki saying nihahaha, there is no need to translate it as ahahaha" they might reply "noted, but we prefer it this way"

[frosty harbor]

i cringe each time i reread the english version of the story after reading kr

[severe steeple]

If you do get the position can you come back here and confirm once and for all whether you actually have creative control over the translation or whether it's all up to the decisions of people in higher positions

[summer dew]

〇〇kun

[frosty harbor]

good point on koyuki

[stuck valley]

All gacha games suffer from localization though

[wicked parcel]

I haven't read the KR versions so I dunno how bad is the en is

[frosty harbor]

just because its normal doesnt mean it has to be this way

[stuck valley]

yeah this game's localization sux at times

they do need to step it up

[severe steeple]

Hey, that's the names of half the protagonists in all the JP books I read!

[frosty harbor]

look, my specialization is fantasy writing and im especially good at fixing others cringefest, as lead translator that was my job for last 9 years

[covert spoke]

I'm curious if Makoto's gun was changed because they didnt want people to think its a jjk reference

[summer dew]

you must enjoy your books a lot

[wide basin]

Ye

They change a lot

[wicked parcel]

Brb omw to become a gacha game protagonist

[frosty harbor]

if you guys can, please dm me what parts plus your assessment on en quality. i liked the comment all en localizations suck

[stuck valley]

I was in a volunteer third-party translator and usually we don't do live services game so I couldn't give you an insight but

There are a lot of content in an update so they put you in a team

And it's hard to agree on one thing

[frosty harbor]

id be applying for a managerial position even within tl team, as director because i have more than 6 years experience running a team as head

[stuck valley]

But the workload is so many that we have to go forward with what we have at the time

[summer dew]

and obviously time pressure is huge i'd assume

[wicked parcel]

How bad will the TL industry be because of AI
Like we have AI artists pretty much..

[frosty harbor]

i worked in publications my whole life

[stuck valley]

the day this game uses AI assets is the day I commit warcrimes

[frosty harbor]

yeah i tinkered with ai too. for about 8 month i developed my own version of chatgpt with dev access

[severe steeple]

I agree, I believe in the "one-drop policy" for AI

As soon as there's one drop of AI in any production, it instantly goes to 0 value

[obsidian heath]

strong fundamentals

[frosty harbor]

i gave up because it cant produce the quality i want

anyway i thought i might as well ask the community for insight and feedback

because i get the feeling you guys feel more strongly about the en tl than average users

[wicked parcel]

I guess maintain the JP verbal tics that characters have instead of localisation

[frosty harbor]

YES

[stuck valley]

yk with the growth of AI today it's hard not to use it, but we'll have to focus more about quality control
I'm watching my language degree fading away as AI take over tl

[frosty harbor]

YESSSS PLEASE WHY

[obsidian heath]

aren't some JP verbal tics fabricated by JP localizers

[frosty harbor]

BLUE ARCHIVE PLAYERS ARE WEEEBS WHY DO WE NEED TO TL AWAY HONORIFICS AND STUFF

[marble gust]

oh wait greg choir increases dmg dealt if you dont defeat them?

[frosty harbor]

no, blue archice is actually written in jp first if i recall

[severe steeple]

In all seriousness learning how to use AI well is just a new skill set that people have to learn

[obsidian heath]

the JP translation also had its fanfic moments like all of seia for example

[marble gust]

damn ba jp game confirmed

[obsidian heath]

it's not

[woven sigil]

JP isn't original text

[severe steeple]

it's written in KR then translated to JP

[wicked parcel]

I thought its just "I want 😭" and it's done..

[marble gust]

pikachu is japanese confirmed

[severe steeple]

There was a controversy a while back where they changed the translators, and the JP translation was shit

[summer dew]

brutal truth

[frosty harbor]

? i heard only the storyboard is kr and the story is written for jp first before its localized into kr

[severe steeple]

There were apologems and everything

[covert spoke]

i heard that too

[obsidian heath]

explain seia then

[covert spoke]

but since they are korean they will never be japanese

[severe steeple]

I dunno to what extent the story is written in KR first, all I know is that translation occurs

[frosty harbor]

and yet jp version of eden treaty is the most emotionally impactful

out of en kr and jp

[marble gust]

lmao

[wicked parcel]

Princess thing

[woven sigil]

Seia's JP lines are complete mess with tons of useless kanji

[severe steeple]

Are you talking about how Seia has a different personality in JP and English? (actually what is her personality like in Korean?)

[summer dew]

well the languages have ton of similarities, it doesnt matter much which is the original

[frosty harbor]

shes kind of annoying in kr too

[covert spoke]

theres nothing to say a fake cant surpass the original

[woven sigil]

Not that much as in JP

[frosty harbor]

oh saukko you poor poor summer chd

[marble gust]

they prepped different voicelines for jp seia

[summer dew]

im not saying they are the same

[severe steeple]

Saukko is a summer Chad

[woven sigil]

I wish Nexon add an option to separately change voice overs to KR for desired characters

[summer dew]

[woven sigil]

I like Kokona's KR lines

[frosty harbor]

if only you knew to the degree how low en quality is compared to jp or kr

[covert spoke]

wonder how the cn tl is

[frosty harbor]

i spent the first year playing this game reading it in kr then playing en with friends and explaining to friends the missing context and jokes thats omitted in tl

[obsidian heath]

better than en according to kanon

[covert spoke]

low bar tho

[summer dew]

maybe i should start reading the jp story to find out

[wide basin]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-paul-dano-riddler-somarra-gif-835799788689308789

[frosty harbor]

if you have difficulty please read eden treaty... its so much better than even kr

[severe steeple]

So is Seia disrespectful in KR, like JP, or is she more formal like global?

[frosty harbor]

i read eden treaty in kr 3 times before i ever saw jp eden treaty and i cried during jp eden treaty because the lines hit different

[wicked parcel]

But KR is 0.01% JP..

[frosty harbor]

seia is pretty disrespectful depending on who shes talking to

kr is 20% jp, or more

[severe steeple]

to Sensei

I mean like does she treat you more as an equal or an actual sensei

[frosty harbor]

equal

[woven sigil]

KR Seia doesn't care

[marble gust]

man just take the L of not knowing every single language in the world

[woven sigil]

[marble gust]

its not only limited to gacha games

[frosty harbor]

lol

[severe steeple]

I actually don't like JP Seia for that reason, but that's just my personal take

[untold tusk]

🤔 So do I throw the GA ticket on Konoka...............
Well guess that is for me to figure out next week

[wicked parcel]

Yea, we need to remove en everywhere and convert it to JP worldwide, I don't mind if we lose sloppywood..

[frosty harbor]

i want to document en response to appeal for needing en fixes on existing text

[severe steeple]

My everlasting suffering because I don't know how to pronounce latin words correctly

[marble gust]

so sad

[woven sigil]

wtf

Latin is literally

[echo oar]

lorem ipsum

[wicked parcel]

Will the ticket stay for next banner

[severe steeple]

how can I pretend to be an intellectual while fearing that someone might correct me on my pronunciation of "sic semper tyrannis"!?

[obsidian heath]

literally read as it's written with c=k

[untold tusk]

49 days after getting so should be 46 or 45 days now

[wicked parcel]

Will joining a church or a cult improve my Latin

[severe steeple]

Is that Tie-rannis or Tirranis?

[marble gust]

where is that term from

[woven sigil]

Qualis rex talis grex

[wicked parcel]

JP doesn't have 6 months foresight banner like we do too..

[marble gust]

me no cultured

[covert spoke]

misguided fools

[obsidian heath]

anglophone problems

[woven sigil]

Become a GP

[severe steeple]

Then I will pronounce it "Tirranis" because it's like "Tiranosaurosu" in Japanese 🦖

[woven sigil]

Tiramisu

[stuck valley]

scam cake

[pallid inlet]

🦖

[stuck valley]

[covert spoke]

too

[wicked parcel]

What's GP

[untold tusk]

Is fine I have the plan all figured out except when to use GA ticket do I just let ticket expire if I could not find a good banner

[covert spoke]

stop baiting

[woven sigil]

General practitioner

A doctor

[wicked parcel]

It's free 1200

[wicked parcel]

Oh yea I forgot medicine is full of Latin terms

[stuck valley]

tru

[untold tusk]

Baiting?
I really do mean what I am saying

[stuck valley]

baiting?

🎣

[woven sigil]

JP content?

[covert spoke]

no you dont

[stuck valley]

swimsuit yume

[wicked parcel]

We're all poor f2ps so when we see someone say "I'm throwing away 10 pulls" it sounds too whale 😔

[stuck valley]

ga ticket skipper

so scary

[wicked parcel]

I'm not a whale, I spent 0.01USD

[steady prairie]

didn't realize i have 2 rows of healing lb already

[stuck valley]

lv25s

[woven sigil]

sNagisa heal lb

psmh

[wicked parcel]

I was mistaken to call GPoorD, it's GWhaleD

[steady prairie]

basic needs

[severe steeple]

Healing LBs are the easiest to have a surplus of, just by their nature

[frosty harbor]

no, its health

[woven sigil]

needs

[stuck valley]

whelers in chat :smh:

[frosty harbor]

whel where?

im just a newbie

[covert spoke]

327 health 333 healing 278 atk books

[woven sigil]

Korean word in username = whel

[wicked parcel]

Nah you sound too Korean to be an f2p

[frosty harbor]

ㅠㅠ

[marble gust]

[covert spoke]

CAUGHT

[wicked parcel]

Don where

[frosty harbor]

im being (correctly) discrimated

[woven sigil]

[steady prairie]

[covert spoke]

its up there with liking buldak noodles with cheese slice

[wicked parcel]

Are you an oppa from Gangnam too

[woven sigil]

Don't ask about sHoshi lb10

[steady prairie]

10 but not 15

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480747408261386390/moltensmh.gif

[woven sigil]

That was enough

For what is was done

[wicked parcel]

What's that boss yellow symbol

[severe steeple]

Are there even breakpoints for LB?

[woven sigil]

Chok

Unstable flame stack

[marble gust]

15 25

[summer dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066655353158250548/1480752237520359586/slowedsmh.gif

[steady prairie]

15 is 35 books, 25 is 70

[woven sigil]

Books aren't the problem

Especially after buff

[marble gust]

it is

[woven sigil]

T1 and T2 mats are

[marble gust]

not false

[steady prairie]

you have 2000 of everything after your 2 years of hoarding...

[woven sigil]

[marble gust]

shush

also 2k t1 isnt enough

[covert spoke]

dunno who ill hp lb next

[stuck valley]

is lb expensive?

[steady prairie]

kinda

[steady prairie]

it's a lot of lower tier mats

to the point where it's a problem

[stuck valley]

It's exclusive to lv90 though

[stuck valley]

rite?

[woven sigil]

and 5*

[stuck valley]

yeah that's expensive

[obsidian heath]

I might be almost out of healing books

[severe steeple]

I wanna join in everyone screenshotting their healing LB use

[steady prairie]

that's healing lb??

[woven sigil]

JP kaijuplayer

[steady prairie]

average jp kaiju behavior

[woven sigil]

flex an empty wallet

[severe steeple]

I am F2P on JP

[summer dew]

Waifus needs healing

[severe steeple]

only spent on the recent 100 eleph pack for C.Hare to UE60

[stuck valley]

f2p btw...

[woven sigil]

Average JP F2P

[summer dew]

Limited time offers are considered f2p

Trust

[stuck valley]

pyroxene packs offers selector monthly and bimonthlies are f2p though

[covert spoke]

observe self control

[stuck valley]

terrain buff on special students

does it work

[frosty harbor]

yes, if they do damage

[summer dew]

ofc it works

[dull mauve]

[woven sigil]

[marble gust]

why so many takane

[teal nova]

[frosty harbor]

really?

[frosty harbor]

i stopped buying from shop because i have enough lower mats and exp from farming events

granted, not everyone ap refresh 6x every event

[wicked parcel]

Pyroxene shop is the best to buy nebras disks

[woven sigil]

Takane wife

[wicked parcel]

I should skip idol banners

[summer dew]

i usually buy t3 batteries from ligma 2 shop myself

for craft fodder

[wicked parcel]

I have them

[stuck valley]

idols and maki

[summer dew]

68% to b50

[stuck valley]

where do you calculate bond again?

[summer dew]

https://ba.joexyz.online/bond

[echo oar]

raaaahh!

this is addicting

[hollow saddle]

[echo oar]

I wanna get the perfect run for the highest score possible with this rotation

[covert spoke]

ball

[summer dew]

fun fact. if you press up-arrow to edit previous message, then ctrl+a to select all text, then ctrl+v to paste a link, it tries to convert it to a fucking markdown style masked link instead of replacing the contents.
yeah, fuck you discord that was never my intention.

[steady prairie]

[summer dew]

[stuck valley]

dam

[summer dew]

masked links dont belong to discord

remove the support pls

[pliant kelp]

wtf 😭

[obsidian heath]

what's the matter?

[midnight river]

Mari rather water plants than idol

[snow portal]

3 bouncy castles, 1 car, and a wappi

[wicked parcel]

He's shocked you didn't healing bonus wakamo and Mika

[obsidian heath]

I'm more shocked I didn't spend it on base ui, but good point about wakamo

[snow portal]

1/5 bnnuy before reset today

[summer dew]

she looks bored

[snow portal]

Well yeah

No fellow bnnuy with her

Just Fuyu

[tender olive]

I really hate tipharenth

[opaque dagger]

I saw that @echo oar 👀

[echo oar]

👻

wrong vid!!

I think I've nearly capped out this comp though

would have to add in shosh or mreisa to go any higher

[opaque dagger]

Reisa Magic adds in a new set of complications that does not exist with Shigure HS

Just beware if you do attempt

[midnight river]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-16534979835682612734

[echo oar]

yeaaaah same with shosh, it'd be a huge pain

[pure vessel]

I'm watching a bunch of yesod vids to start planning my runs and I'm just wondering exactly how many more wakamo exs can you fit in with haruka than snagisa

[echo oar]

well shosh isn't that bad, but still

[pure vessel]

because plugging the numbers into schaledb it looks like nagisa does make smika do more damage than with nyharuka even with the 300% cdmg res on yesod

but I assume the cost up lets you fit in extra wakamo exs to compensate

[opaque dagger]

Speaking of video, apart from Wave 1, anything you see that you'd do differently? (Video is currently unlisted, early access for you because seeking your opinion)

https://youtu.be/vn1Kb8DgWr8

[idle rampart]

tifanny yuri

[pure vessel]

the best wakamo smika team I see deals 44m

[covert spoke]

nagi basic is strong too, its enough to make ue40 smika cap easily

@ minstab

[pure vessel]

but I think for sub 10min to be viable you need to deal at least 48m with the superteam

[echo oar]

f102!!! https://youtu.be/OhW7HPTWq0c

too large for discord

[opaque dagger]

Is this on speedup lmao

[echo oar]

yeah if you're just doing 2 EXs on wave 1, you can get 100% 200% instead of 100% 100% like we talked about

move aoba right, hit left after the shield goes down, then hit right to damage it

[echo oar]

I didn't modify the video speed at all, if that's what you're asking

plain ol 3x speed

[opaque dagger]

Hmm interesting, you use Shigure Hot Spring to tank all the AAs. Unfortunately Seia Swimsuit does not survive that way 😔 the shielding is needed

[echo oar]

yeeeee there might be some better way to do that for my comp without burning all the cost on oshig, but that just happened to get tyuuka to line up with wave 4

while also keeping everyone at full health so they can facetank it, letting me shield aoba instead

[opaque dagger]

You can prolly see that in my clear, the hardest part is to get the correct shield targets

Because of random ass social distancing

Sometimes Hikari and Seia Swimsuit can run like 2 laps back and forth when social distancing at the start

[echo oar]

it suuuucks!

[opaque dagger]

So yea, my clear is not fun, the amount of shield and HP balancing needed on top of crit balding

The Wave 4/5 Shigure HS cut is needed, you can see that I literally have no cost for 4 EX groggy otherwise

So at the start of Wave 5 there, if I didn't catch both Hikari and Seia Swimsuit that's a reset, someone was gonna die there

[echo oar]

oh I was actually noticing in some spots you're overlapping buffs or not using cheap ones to cycle

like wave 2, you cycled with snagi instead of hikari even though snagi's buff would have still been up for the 3rd EX

[opaque dagger]

Oh that's intentional, because I start with Hikari before Wave 3

Like, Hikari always casted in-between Waves

It lasts till end of Wave

[echo oar]

yeeee, but the cost!

just tiny cost savings

[opaque dagger]

Ye but then I need to cycle one of Nagi/Seia to get to shielder during in-between

[echo oar]

and I think you had full buffs up for dsao's first EX on wave 3 (remaining from the previous wave), but elected to cycle with buffs to dsao's own card instead of chucking the rio dsao that was on top of the stack

[opaque dagger]

And their buffs expires before the last hit on the next Wave

[echo oar]

you could free up another 5 cost or something by using the rio dsao first instead of cycling, maybe??

[echo oar]

ahhh hmmm

[opaque dagger]

2 things with this:

• I need to get back to Rio and copy again for 3rd EX in Wave 3, actually not sure if I cycle back and copy in time
• By doing this I have Hare Camp buffs for all 3 EX in Wave 3

And this also immediately affects the first Dawn of Ritual

Cos I need to double shield there

[echo oar]

naaawww if you're concerned about rio taking too much time, you have plenty of it in wave 3

[opaque dagger]

I need shield on that one single AA before Dawn of Ritual or Seia Swimsuit dies

[echo oar]

ahhh

[opaque dagger]

And then shield on Dawn of Ritual itself

[pure vessel]

guh

I was kind of looking into f106 tiph clear

but all the tls I see with the team I wanted are

[echo oar]

yeah idk how tyuuka would fit into that mess

[opaque dagger]

I get your idea, but then I have to rework that entire part

[pure vessel]

kinda super tight even with ue50 nozomi

and my shupos are ue40

[echo oar]

mhm it'd take some combing through it and checking when exactly you apply buffs so you'd know when they wear off

[covert spoke]

speaking of tight

[woven sigil]

I did F106 first try with ue40 Nozomi

[opaque dagger]

Oh yeah, and then I need another shield on Wave 4 or Seia Swimsuit dies again

So it's 3 shields in that short span, which is why I elected this rotation

And this allows me to cycle back to Rio to copy just in time for 3 EX Wave 4

This would be so much cleaner if it was just 2 shields and not 3

Like, I think what you suggested sounds legit, but I would have to think about how to adjust for the awakened section

It honestly depends on how I end Wave 3

Sometimes, depending on shielding RNG, the entire team is on half health or less

Then I have to shield regardless or even Hikari/Hare Camp dies to AA, great times

And I cannot cast Shigure Hot Spring too early because of random ass social distancing

I cast too early and then they run out of the heal zone

[echo oar]

tbh I'm not sure if it'd even change the rotation much, what I'm thinking of

[opaque dagger]

It honestly takes a lot of luck to get past early Wave 4

That's this rotation's biggest point of failure

Stupid ass Tiph goes AA -> Dawn of Ritual -> summons -> AAs instantly

Wave 5 unironically easier because it's Dawn of Ritual -> AA

[covert spoke]

cant u just rio tyuuka

[echo oar]

like if you delay these buffs here a tiny bit, I think they last just long enough to use the rio dsao instantly with full buffs at the start of wave 3 in pic 2? so instead of using sseia snagi dsao, you'd use dsao sseia snagi

which wouldn't change your tyuuka timing and get back your rio card earlier to use dsao the 3rd time

but uhhhh if you need the rio card for tyuuka real early into the black hole...

big nitpicks though, just theoretical and will only save a bit of cost here and there :p

[opaque dagger]

Actually no, I noticed, Nagi Swimsuit's buffs wears off exactly before I use first Saori Dress EX

[echo oar]

yeaaaah it was looking close

maybe if you delay it to the max right before the last dsaori in wave 2

crazy talk

[opaque dagger]

There

[echo oar]

mhm

[opaque dagger]

It's already gone by this frame

[echo oar]

yeah it'd take a huge overhaul to save some cost here and there, if that's even possible

[opaque dagger]

I think there probably are ways to rotate better

[echo oar]

nothing that drastically changes how much damage you do, either

[opaque dagger]

But I have to sit down and rebuild the entire thing from scratch

[echo oar]

unless it lets you squeak in one more EX on a wave

yeeee

[opaque dagger]

Ye unless I get off 1 more EX there's 0 value

[echo oar]

tbh I'm still amazed you got the f99 clear

who cares what critiques there may be

one heck of a comp to do it with

[snow portal]

She's so round and smol

[opaque dagger]

Genuine recommendation is: F90 if you do this comp. F94 if you feel adventurous, F97 if you can bald (I've ended 99 with sub 2m like, 5-6 times), F99 if you really need that 1 gift box and have no sanity to begin with (or you're farming views)

[opaque dagger]

You can also tell I've gotten pretty good at gauging who survives how many AAs and where to leap to get the shielding I want

[echo oar]

sseia on life support

the tyuuka shenanigans are pretty neat, as annoying as it can be when people run off who knows where

[opaque dagger]

F99/F100 Set trained me for this, I did this exact same thing

Kisaki's shields has got to be a godsend here

[echo oar]

yeah! I noticed it tends to help a lot if you plan around it

or rather, if you notice it's on a good target, so you just keep that rotation

I think a past tiph run had a kisaki shield on a really important target

[opaque dagger]

This is one instance where the shield really matters

[opaque dagger]

Also, this is disgusting lmao

[sleek flicker]

Happy Birthday, Yuuk

[echo oar]

it happened surprisingly often, but luckily it doesn't change anything

[opaque dagger]

It will if it's the 4th one where you miss the range

[signal hound]

I need another 30 million credits to max Aoba for F106 😭
I guess I’ll wait and see how much remains after Yesod

[echo oar]

this made me laugh on a run, too

literally the first attempt today, and it was going SO well

and then I used tyuuka later and was like "wait where's hikari"

aoba clipped her with the bomb 😭

[opaque dagger]

Ohhh that does dmg

So that's where some of the random dmg comes from

Cos I noticed I do sometimes get random ass dmg

And I was like "huh why Seia Swimsuit/Hikari/Hare Camp has no more shield"

[marble gust]

yes send aoba right when wave starts

[opaque dagger]

But sometimes she gets pushed back by the sticky bomb

And doesn't detonate it at all

So annoying

I usually wait for the sticky bomb to attach to Aoba before I send her

Is that not the right way to do it?

[marble gust]

if you dont want random dmg no

just pre send her even

[opaque dagger]

Because I noticed

If you send her while the sticky bomb is flying

She gets sort of knocked back

[marble gust]

dont send her inside the yellow circle send her here

[opaque dagger]

I cannot do that

Someone gets microwaved if I do that

[marble gust]

?

[opaque dagger]

Sometimes Hikari/Seia Swimsuit/Yuuka Track/Hare Camp gets microwaved even if Aoba is standing here

[covert spoke]

that is

[opaque dagger]

They social distance themselves into the microwave

[covert spoke]

not where he showed

[opaque dagger]

That spot is worse

If this spot and they still sometimes get microwaved

[marble gust]

send here then

[opaque dagger]

That spot actually has a near 100% guarantee of someone getting microwaved

How do you get her there, actually

Sometimes I don't have the angle

[covert spoke]

u click there

[marble gust]

time to open ba

[opaque dagger]

I sometimes have this Aoba position

[marble gust]

oh you can cross the yellow circle

just not repo anywhere inside it

[opaque dagger]

Ye that's why I do far back

[marble gust]

before sticky bomb sticks

[opaque dagger]

Oh so that's a problem that happens before sticky bomb sticks

[echo oar]

tbh I barely paid attention to aoba spots

[opaque dagger]

More things to hate about this dumb raid

[marble gust]

i mean yea it just explodes if you try to cross the yellow circle if its up

[opaque dagger]

So I guess Tiph AA + sticky bomb is what kills Seia Swimsuit during Wave 4

That explains it now

[marble gust]

if you repo inside it before sticky bomb up u get softlocked like you mentioned

[obsidian heath]

left side is needlessly precise
right side is chill

[opaque dagger]

Right side has no force field nonsense, so yea

[marble gust]

left is cringe

[obsidian heath]

maybe that's why causew recommends newcuties to always go right except that one wave where you can't go right

[opaque dagger]

Btw, I have had Seia Swimsuit run here once

Actually not once, multiple times

Hikari has also done this before

[marble gust]

thats not the spot i showed for right

[opaque dagger]

And they both get microwaved to death

Ye but even if I go to that corner

Still can get hit if they run deep enough

I have had Seia Swimsuit and Hikari run the entire lap together

Trying to social distance each other

[marble gust]

if they even run that far just restart cus u cant even heal then

[opaque dagger]

They will run to the far right corner where Aoba is

Ye like, 5-10% of my restarts are because of that

So annoying

[marble gust]

wait this is gpd

[pure vessel]

tiph would be so much better if the center shove at the end of each core phase would push them into starting formation instead of all into one tiny spot

[opaque dagger]

TL;DR this raid dumb

• So many random ass technical details to pay attention to
• So much cringe social distancing
• Viable CDmg options are all Special
• Comfy shielder is also Special
• Viable healers all Special too
• You choose your poison of Yuuka Track, no CDmg buffer or no Rio
• If you run Yuuka Track you have to deal with repo + shield target shenanigans
• Labourers have such high HP for no reason
• Barricades have such high HP for no reason
• Tiph hits like a truck for no reason

Actually such a cringe raid

[marble gust]

every single tiph wave 2+ aa feels like chokmah missiles

p2 feels like it without atk down

[opaque dagger]

Ye Arch, why do you even like this raid

[pure vessel]

mechanic wise tiph is actually pretty great

[marble gust]

the chasing looked cool

[pure vessel]

it's just the social distancing shit

[marble gust]

and the raid looked complex

and fun

clueless

[opaque dagger]

The mechanics are interesting, I will admit

[marble gust]

i pulled 400 on shupos before tiph even started

so its gg

[opaque dagger]

But the stupid amount of HP/Dmg + all the dumb shit from BA (social distancing etc) makes this such an unfun experience

[marble gust]

i didnt know shit back then

though hp is balanced through aoe

beeg hp = cool

clueless

[opaque dagger]

The HP bloat past F100 is dumb

[marble gust]

i liked greg when i first saw it too

[opaque dagger]

But then again, F100+ on the other 2 are also dumb

[odd geyser]

[echo oar]

idk I think I have stockholm syndrome from tiph

it's been cozy spamming runs trying to get that one where everything goes just right

[opaque dagger]

Me looking at this and wondering why does the random ass barricade need to have 1.5m HP

And it's level 105 so it's literally 30% Dmg Reduction

[marble gust]

how much does nozomi aoe do

i kinda doubt

[echo oar]

10%

[marble gust]

it even does enough

[echo oar]

okay 15%

[opaque dagger]

You need to target this as main target

Pretty sure

[echo oar]

yeah that

[marble gust]

yea but you dont in tiph

[echo oar]

and it aoe's the others behind the shield boy

[marble gust]

which is crazy

are you supposed to repo her far down

so she gets a better angle

idk

[echo oar]

maybe, or you just do 2 nozomis on each set

repos for angle sound annoying

[marble gust]

just do 2 rei per one atp

[worldly sun]

Nozo always hits the entire line, but you might need to buff a bit otherwise the cosmetic aoe might not kill very high floor

[echo oar]

but probably cuts out a nozomi

I think you get full buffs on nozomi for the second set though

[opaque dagger]

No, I watched the 113 clear. You target the Large one (1m HP) with Nozomi. The first shielded one is taken out with AA + Saori Dress + Nozomi AoE

[marble gust]

nozomi does not hit all if you dont target the 4th one

[worldly sun]

I almost first try 104 doing random bs but underestimated barricade hp, left a few at 1% and died to laser

Then promptly forgot whatever rotation I did

[opaque dagger]

The 2nd one you target the shielded one

[worldly sun]

You always target the shielded one if using nozomi

[opaque dagger]

So 1st line is target Large block with Nozomi, use Saori Dress as well + some AA, 2nd line is target shielded block

[marble gust]

wait tf

[opaque dagger]

No, not the first line

Well, at least, not this version

https://youtu.be/u3Di3w1hYp4

[worldly sun]

Just wait a bit for her to run up and she’ll always hit line

[limber pulsar]

Someone is struggling to say my name 💔

[worldly sun]

You can try spelling it more phonetically to see if she says it differently

Like meelee

[echo oar]

owdeenz sensei

[opaque dagger]

[echo oar]

I couldn't get arona to get mine right no matter how I tried

[worldly sun]

They changed the way she reads it a bit a while ago and I think it improved a bit

[opaque dagger]

Mine is Eclipse Sensei so it's easy

[marble gust]

kill whoever made nozomi ex not flexible to target

[covert spoke]

shes flexible

[worldly sun]

Make her call you ass ass in sensei

[steady prairie]

use katakana for pronunciation

wait does that even work in en

[restive kraken]

english readings are automatically translated into katakana pronunciations

[worldly sun]

Some phonetic sounds don’t exist in Japanese so they’ll always be let downs

[opaque dagger]

Well your comp makes it easy, 5 students where you just ignore Aoba all the time, and your run has very few reset points + not even needing bullet time EX usages

[odd geyser]

[echo oar]

excuse me, all you're seeing is the run where it works out!!

[summer dew]

but surely you got it in first try

[opaque dagger]

Ok you're not spending half of the run on bullet time, that alone makes it much more enjoyable to play

[summer dew]

no way you recorded 50 failed attempts

[worthy charm]

[opaque dagger]

When you're constantly holding EX cards and/or pause spamming, shit gets tiring real quick

[echo oar]

reset for first tyuuka repos, reset for whiffed bot kill on wave 1, reset for third tyuuka repos, reset for hp on 3rd wave, reset for aoba mistake on 3rd/4th waves, reset for nozomi late basic 3rd wave, reset for tyuuka bad repos 4th wave, reset for no nozomi basic groggy

but yeah 3x speed is nice

[opaque dagger]

That's so few resets!

[echo oar]

you can pry it from my cold, dead hands

[steady prairie]

good thing im a comfy f99 enjoyer

[rocky cosmos]

so true

[opaque dagger]

Imagine ending Wave 4 with 75m HP left (very high roll, lowrolls are like 82m+) and Hare Camp + Seia Swimsuit runs here

And you're like, welp I can just restart now

[echo oar]

oh also, aoba dies if I don't shield her in the 4th or 5th waves, or if she doesn't get enough healing prior to them!

so I'm mostly ignoring her, but not totally :p

[opaque dagger]

I have had Aoba die on Wave 3 once

[echo oar]

guh

[opaque dagger]

Because too many Shigure HS Basics + Seia Swimsuit Basics stolen

[summer dew]

i never had aoba die

your aobers are too weak!

[opaque dagger]

Sorry that I run UE30 3777 996 Aoba only

[summer dew]

i run ue30 3777 t888

she is immortal

[odd geyser]

[opaque dagger]

My Aoba gets 0 shields and often gets her heals stolen

[covert spoke]

max ex this kaiju

[rocky cosmos]

free no?

[odd geyser]

free

[covert spoke]

not spending credits on that

[rocky cosmos]

credit also free

[summer dew]

aobing it

https://tenor.com/view/aoba-blue-archive-aoba-blue-archive-gif-11507679221771893676

[odd geyser]

[opaque dagger]

Do you heal often btw

Cos I only use Shigure HS once in the entire run

[pliant kelp]

first it was guidance for
now its compliments for
cute

[opaque dagger]

Oh wait you're using Reisa Magic right?

[summer dew]

idk i havent cooked yet but aoba gets free shield every wave

[opaque dagger]

Oh you run Kisaki, that's why

[marble gust]

i was like wait i can put mreisa a bit to the back right

[opaque dagger]

Wait no you don't, I saw you using Seia Swimsuit

[marble gust]

mreisa shield stealing intensifies

[opaque dagger]

Who's giving Aoba shields

[summer dew]

seimi

[opaque dagger]

Oh are you using Kaede

[worldly sun]

This is basically free smh

[opaque dagger]

Yea nvm Eimi Swimsuit, that's why

[steady prairie]

i put mreisa a bit to the back but not too much so that when tiph teleport everything mreisa is in the front

works well

[opaque dagger]

Yea your Aoba can never die if she gets shields

Actually immortal

Shieldless Aoba has a tougher life

[summer dew]

spannah

[worldly sun]

Who up aobing their spanna

[steady prairie]

if it works don't fix it

as usual

[snow portal]

Spanna! Bonk

[snow portal]

We are aobing it

[marble gust]

ig coming up with a new theory

tiph auto retargets no matter what after 3 aas

[frosty harbor]

is there good hw for 104+ on frr?

i only found 100 :X

[echo oar]

https://fixupx.com/raw_beef_tw/status/1971494280033337676

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[ripe mason]

here's F124 hw

[echo oar]

yeah you just do f100 but better

[frosty harbor]

looks doable

[marble gust]

bruh wrong tiph vid

[summer dew]

bruh

[marble gust]

tiph didnt retarget to mreisa

oh

wait

[snow portal]

I wish M.Reisa's circle was just a little bit bigger

[marble gust]

it missed nozomi instead

im dumb

[summer dew]

[worldly sun]

They just made it same size as oshig

[snow portal]

Yeah if it was that'd be nice

As it is rn I feel it's just a biiiit too small

[summer dew]

🤏

[frosty harbor]

i cant find kr hw for mreisa builds on youtube....

[obsidian heath]

it is exactly the same as shiggy's

and comes with the same issues

[echo oar]

psmh the oshig powercreep doesn't powercreep oshig in all aspects

[frosty harbor]

zoinks shaggy

[worldly sun]

Well the only things she loses on is duration, basic burst and “can die”

[summer dew]

oshig is cuter too

[worldly sun]

And ig atk vs crit sub but not much diff there

[snow portal]

Cuter? Debatable
But she sure is more seduc-

[steady prairie]

[median lotus]

Uzawa reisa basic rights

[frosty harbor]

not t10 🧱

[snow portal]

[median lotus]

T10 a bit minimal but we're balling

[worldly sun]

You 100% want the bag t10

It’s probably the best t10 item compared to its t9

[steady prairie]

t10 matters btw it's the only source of def for reisa summon

so it's 1600 -> 1700 just with t10

[summer dew]

Well cute is cute, and my cute is better than your cute!

[steady prairie]

significant

[worldly sun]

Anyway everyone should have infinite t10 bags becuase their on hinata node

You are farming hinata right

[summer dew]

What hinata node

[steady prairie]

im actually not

i need neru ue40 more than hinata progress as of rn

[snow portal]

Which neru

[worldly sun]

Only 1 neru is farmable

[steady prairie]

what neru is farmable

[ripe mason]

all of them

[snow portal]

Technically all of them

Permit farm bby

[echo oar]

now that's my kinda thinkin

[worldly sun]

Ep is not farming unless it’s a welfare

[steady prairie]

how are you counting expert permit as farm smhsmh

[odd geyser]

[summer dew]

My bags are sourced from iori node

[steady prairie]

anw im prob gonna try to contest lun bo-at

so definitely need ue40 neru

[snow portal]

If you aren't spending permits to farm limited elephs, what else are you using it for

[steady prairie]

gears

[snow portal]

Smdh

[odd geyser]

we f2p are here to stay

[summer dew]

[signal hound]

Show Elephs

[quartz remnant]

Who doesn't have max cap by now

[rocky cosmos]

not me

I'm f2p

[odd geyser]

‼️💢

[signal hound]

B100 f2p

[rocky cosmos]

it is

bond is all about dedication not money

[signal hound]

Oh I meant Rabu

[steady prairie]

bond is all about dedication and money

[rocky cosmos]

nah being serious tho I don't have permit at max because hoarding

it's what actual f2p need to do

[odd geyser]

I've just been doing daily, will dump a bunch once yesod is here

assuming i can do the raid next week anyway

[steady prairie]

im just clearing the shop rn and hoarding the thing to do dailies with it

[signal hound]

Holy S Hanako spooks

[proven dove]

I'm done with shops (minus the furnitures) so I'm focusing on rabu farm now

[signal hound]

126 Kotama Camp

[summer dew]

Why I'm getting more whel reacts than dajin wtf

[odd geyser]

b/c im actually f2p

[summer dew]

Me no whel

[supple star]

These whels

[supple star]

Psmh

[proven dove]

Busy week I guess :3 same here, I'll only tor clear, for that I'll skip normal difficulty to clear torment asap so I can learn it early on and not have to worry about it later.

[signal hound]

Don’t forget to do the daily event quest ^^

[candid gust]

ofc

[median lotus]

3 star rabu easy

[snow portal]

I've seen them

[signal hound]

She loves you

[snow portal]

They are pink

[summer dew]

Pink

[supple star]

What is pink

[signal hound]

UE60 on top. Did you overcommit on her banner? 😳

[snow portal]

No, I just drop 800 on fest banners and she spooked over time

[signal hound]

Damn

[summer dew]

Pink is pink

[untold tusk]

You so certain about that?

[summer dew]

Not anymore

[copper surge]

This looks comfy af.

[polar orbit]

chair archive

[supple star]

Dang

I wanna sleep too

[summer dew]

what is sleep

[supple star]

Something you need to learn

[summer dew]

camp kotama in jail this time

also upgraded cafe!

[marble gust]

i wonder what the 118 tiph guy even went through

[summer dew]

Hairloss

[opaque dagger]

Is 118 Purple Tiph even real

[marble gust]

yea its like a myth on jp

i barely saw any purple tiph posts that month

and last few days someone shared me the 118 post

[opaque dagger]

Like, that's an extra 50.5m HP. After accounting mechanics, you are staring at 25m extra HP

[marble gust]

they did both 116 and 118 too

prolly went to groggy with like 120mil hp

or even more

[opaque dagger]

And 118 has +1k Atk from 113

This doesn't even sound real

[marble gust]

i mean they have ue60 everyone

so like idk

it isnt even dps mald in the slightest anymore

considering how much you need to deal with

[opaque dagger]

This is an entirely different rotation where you get off extra 1-2 Nozomi EX no?

[marble gust]

dps mald is like 5% of tiph atp

[marble gust]

oh yea i dont use that yet

[opaque dagger]

Unless you wanna tell me they stab balded like crazy

[marble gust]

2 more nozomi ex on 4th wave

i barely even survive wave 4 man

anyone who can speak jp wanna help ask them for their rot

[echo oar]

stab malding 60+ hits is pure placebo 😤

[old rose]

nah stab malding to be like +1 std dev is probably a lot of damage, and isn't particularly unlikely

[marble gust]

they did the 118 with 2 frames left too

peak baldshino

[opaque dagger]

I mean, if you can do 118, don't you just clear 100 during groggy

[marble gust]

not rly

hp decrease from killing labourers scales with floors too

[steady prairie]

it's a fixed 1%

[marble gust]

so up there its like 3.8mil per labourer

[marble gust]

yea but nozomi deals fixed dmg

so u cant rly kill on first groggy

[steady prairie]

yeah ik

[marble gust]

prolly

cus too less self dmg

[summer dew]

kill harder

[opaque dagger]

100 and 118 is 172m diff, divided by 2, that's 86m diff

That you have to deal all by yourself

[marble gust]

lets say 10mil per ex

2+3+2 70mil

[opaque dagger]

That's 8 EX diff lmao

[marble gust]

156/225mil hp going into groggy

u aint dealing 70mil on first groggy lo

maybe close to killing but nah

[opaque dagger]

I guess

But I'm thinking in terms of HP diff after accounting for spooders

[marble gust]

if f100 had f118 spiders then defo

[opaque dagger]

There are 48 spooders in 5 waves

That's 48% max HP

So if we compare the remaining 52%

[steady prairie]

how do you get 10 trinity purple tech notes when all of the shops are exhausted, btw

[marble gust]

:craft

[steady prairie]

ta ga all bought event full clear

[opaque dagger]

117.3m vs 206.4m

[steady prairie]

ueueueueue

[civic jungle]

Anyone here can play 7 or more BA accounts everyday?

[steady prairie]

auuauhguhaughhhh

[civic jungle]

[opaque dagger]

That's nearly 90m diff in terms of damage you have to deal yourself

Unless I'm missing other sources of dmg

[marble gust]

i mean yea u just calced f118 rot almost killed f100

so the 2nd groggy will do the rest

again the dps isnt the main issue i think

[opaque dagger]

How much HP would you enter P2 with on 118

[marble gust]

eh im saying 130mil or more

[opaque dagger]

...is that even clearable

[marble gust]

hypothetically yes

nozomi easily clears 100mil

then just stab a bit and clear all rest labourers

which is 3.8mil each

[opaque dagger]

113 has 94m HP remaining

And they barely clear while killing 4 of them

This has to be a completely different P2 rotation then, to make up for so much HP

[marble gust]

did the 113 utilize dsaori dps

not only clearing the labourers

like buffing her and stuff

[opaque dagger]

Hm, they don't use her much

I guess that's where the diff is

[marble gust]

then yea that with snagi cost debt

if they let aoba not die

which i dont know if they do or not

[opaque dagger]

Also, this means that F99 is 1st groggy clear for sure

With optimal play

[marble gust]

isnt it already possible

99 is piss easy

[true scroll]

dogshit boss

106 tomorrow

[covert spoke]

112 kisaki'd hikari xd

[true scroll]

i'm fucking tired of this garbage

[summer spire]

I hate mika

[covert spoke]

nice ue60s

wheres the nozomi ligma tho

[marble gust]

so 3 real gaps which are
finding a way to make survival consistent
fitting 2 more nozomi ex skills
rotating good enough to utilize dsaori dps

all are quite impossible

[old rose]

why is hikari dead

[opaque dagger]

So I guess you can enter groggy F100 with around 30m HP left with the power team, and then you just lol lmao clear with 20-25s remaining

[summer dew]

:YuukaClueless:

[old rose]

my 3* lvl 80 kotori keeps her alive

its f90

[covert spoke]

new player pls understand

[opaque dagger]

90 and 99 have like, 200 Atk diff

[summer dew]

also isn't kotori shield for 5 allies

nope nvm it isnt

it was mimori repos for 5

[covert spoke]

90 u can press rio on ur shielder a lot and still clear

[marble gust]

still dancing

[summer dew]

not smart enough to retreat

[covert spoke]

she hitting it tho

[pure vessel]

she boogie

[opaque dagger]

Iirc you did the numbers, what was the average Eleph gained per card draw?

[woven sigil]

1.15

[summer dew]

me when i make a typo of "correct"

[fleet narwhal]

M-M-MADOKA

I love madoka !!!!

[summer dew]

hello deno hows it whaling

[marble gust]

tf

oh i see it now

[steady prairie]

hello deno hows it whaling

[simple ravine]

hello deno hows it whaling

[fleet narwhal]

I got all students in the game, and all ue60

There is nothing to whale at anymore

[echo oar]

ssg

[fleet narwhal]

Ive reached peak

[steady prairie]

ssg

[fleet narwhal]

And it is time for this denosaur to slumber

[summer dew]

ssg denosaur cant compete

[fleet narwhal]

Forevermore

[polar orbit]

denosaur is going extinct

gn denosaur

[fleet narwhal]

[old rose]

now gotta work towards b100 everyone

[marble gust]

wow who donated me pvp

ssg swimsuits

one of them is using onodoka i cant

[covert spoke]

a lot of onodoka users are just unironic about it

its hard to distinguish but its not actually a donation

[polar orbit]

b50 first...

[echo oar]

oyasumi, punpun

[polar orbit]

oh hi audiens. i hit b14 on my audiens last night

very cool

[echo oar]

hell yeah

[proven dove]

Is audiens shigure ?

[polar orbit]

yes

[echo oar]

my nezos are lookin p good too

[proven dove]

Surely og right

[polar orbit]

yuh

[proven dove]

Based

[echo oar]

jealous

gimme

[polar orbit]

idk what my oaudiens is at

[steady prairie]

so many bonds

[echo oar]

next fest...

[polar orbit]

i even spooked a duplicate last time

[steady prairie]

can't compete

[fleet narwhal]

i even spooked her this banner....

[polar orbit]

go extinct denosaur

[fleet narwhal]

it was a dupe !

[echo oar]

you gonna b50 her after b100 oshig?

[steady prairie]

[fleet narwhal]

b50...? me ? stopping at b50 ? the DENOSAUR ?

These youngins

[echo oar]

I didn't know your game, forgive me

[summer dew]

b51 then

[fleet narwhal]

its b100 or NOTHING

or I am not Denosaur

[summer dew]

hmm hows your shiggy looking

[fleet narwhal]

sec

i'll show

[summer dew]

am i about to see the TRUE power of denosaur

im scared

[steady prairie]

good thing im plankton

[echo oar]

he's charging up

[obsidian heath]

Yes Retreat!

love you marina

[echo oar]

pic's 100MBs from the sheer bond packed into it

whew close call

[summer dew]

enlarge! enhance!

[echo oar]

I think she even cancelled her basic herself??

[fleet narwhal]

GRAAAAAAAAAAAGH

[echo oar]

tried to EX right before going down

bwah

was that just now?

[opaque dagger]

How does one achieve Denosaur power levels

[simple ravine]

deno do you have any gifts saved or you use them right away?

[daring coral]

[echo oar]

woah

[fleet narwhal]

it was

[echo oar]

the new gen's getting close to their b100 titles 👀

[fleet narwhal]

and now... WITNESS ME

[echo oar]

guh

the almighty

[simple ravine]

[summer dew]

too much power

[echo oar]

do it again

[summer dew]

you are shaking the very reality itself with your powers deno

[echo oar]

I missed it that time

[summer dew]

hold back a little!

[fleet narwhal]

Grrrr YOU DARE ?!

[copper surge]

the trinity skyline in the backgruond looks nice

[echo oar]

GUH

[copper surge]

Yuzu escape prison though

[steady prairie]

airu was right

[echo oar]

he's...too strong...

[steady prairie]

bond is all about dedication and money

[fleet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-kong-the-new-empire-roar-scream-gif-17241283001357533318

[daring coral]

Is bro buying gift with pyrox whenever someone challenge him

[steady prairie]

he is

[summer dew]

yea i had trouble fitting it since it's H U G E but glad i got it working there

[daring coral]

Lmao

nice

[echo oar]

the bright backgrounds blind me when I open the game at night

[daring coral]

I got flashed by random ass suzumi l2d

[summer dew]

that's why this is cafe 2 lol

[daring coral]

In the night

[covert spoke]

3 unread messages from shun ✅ Read? ❌ Block

[echo oar]

msuzumi???

base suzumi's l2d is mellow!!

[fleet narwhal]

wait

you just called yourself a whale there too buddy

[covert spoke]

this meant to be reply to nairobi clip

[daring coral]

Yeah msuzumi

So bright

[steady prairie]

As you can see i don't bond

[daring coral]

I’m getting flashed

[fleet narwhal]

sir

your very name has the bond levels