💬gameplay-discussion

[copper crescent]

Less effective would be pyuuka

[round kayak]

Ext is free

[summer dew]

og reisa small defdown in sub if desperate

[round kayak]

[opaque dagger]

I've been playing Wave 1 wrong this whole time

[polar orbit]

Uhh I forgot how many debuffs Greg needs on what difficulties

[copper crescent]

Tor needs 6-7

[round kayak]

5-6 on ins

[quiet raft]

she evades me

[polar orbit]

Mine gives 4 and the organ gives +1 more so

[remote summit]

67

[lyric hatch]

Not the 67

[copper crescent]

noneleft baited me

[atomic arrow]

-# 6️⃣ 7️⃣

[untold tusk]

I am only attempting at most Torment I am planning to borrow SMisaki as dps

[round kayak]

so ins you need to watch for the debuff counter that it stays 5 while tor is 6

careful not to leave it one more debuff cause the red organ will make it overflow

[untold tusk]

The counter gets higher if organs hp are at 0?

[copper crescent]

No

It gets lower

Wait huh

[round kayak]

No I wasn't talking about the center organ

[lyric hatch]

Red wave

[copper crescent]

I think we might not survive trying to explain greg

[round kayak]

Causew has a vid iirc

Hold on

[summer dew]

tharuka 15% aoe shred on basic+ and mari 18.9% on basic+
mari only targets up to 3 enemies though and neither is very viable in kkg

idk if theres more besides shanako basic that are aoe def downs, besides what already was said?

[opaque dagger]

@echo oar nah wtf, the Saori Dress solo F100 uses her EX 32 times, insane minmaxing

[untold tusk]

I know I was asking if the organ enemies hp at 0 that have any relation to debuffs?

[copper crescent]

No

[round kayak]

There's no relation

[old rose]

nah we don't need a video

this explains it perfectly

[copper crescent]

Greg has 3 organs

[round kayak]

Wao it's my goat

[remote summit]

Did oom make this

[atomic arrow]

no

[echo oar]

daaaaaaang that's nuts

[old rose]

idk who made it it's so old

[round kayak]

As stupid as it looks this was actually my mantra when I started out

it was another user

[old rose]

the information is accurate!

[summer dew]

too much text, i just shoot the organ when my gut feeling says to shoot it

worked perfectly this far

[opaque dagger]

I now look like a pleb with my 21 Saori Dress EX

[copper crescent]

The red organ remove one debuff if current buff count is less than 6 and add one debuff if current buff count is more than 7

[echo oar]

my mental count is saying only like 26 EXs

[opaque dagger]

Also I found out I've been doing Tiph wrong this whole time

[echo oar]

must be some real optimized rotations to squeeze out that many

surely some are half-buffed??

like, you have a pre-buff or two, but you use the rest as it's going off

so they aren't full damage

[copper crescent]

The yellow organ does damage to your whole team

[untold tusk]

So what I understand is to shoot only one side of organs that makes the debuff number increase?

[atomic arrow]

@remote summit@old rose #🏅wraid-allied-operation message

[opaque dagger]

I dunno. Clearly I'm not good at Tiph, and will never be

[echo oar]

what part did you do wrong

[severe steeple]

Aren't you FRR main?

[copper crescent]

Yes, shoot the black/blue organ

[opaque dagger]

Wave 1 I send Aoba left

[echo oar]

hah!

scrub plays

[remote summit]

I don't see his trading mark

[opaque dagger]

Nah I only care about Set, fuck Tiph

[atomic arrow]

[severe steeple]

f Set also, but f Tiph even more

[echo oar]

wait what does the causew vid say again

[copper crescent]

But don't shoot the black/blue organ too often

[round kayak]

Is JP patch notes still next week shian?

Just curious

[remote summit]

Set based

Set let me auto

Fuck tiffany

[opaque dagger]

I am a scrub 🙃

I didn't know you could bomb the right side that way. 50% + 200% better than 100% + 100%

[quiet raft]

yeah, I just mean I don't have much options besides my basuna

[echo oar]

ah yeah

tbh I forgot the numbers, I just wanted to bomb the missile shooter so it'd collapse on the first dsaori EX that hits it

[severe steeple]

Usually yes

[opaque dagger]

So I cleared doing Left Right Left Left Left kekw

[round kayak]

Nice thanks man

[echo oar]

I think fwiw, the last two don't matter much??

[round kayak]

Now I wait

[echo oar]

the last one especially

[severe steeple]

I coulda sworn that was the meta when Tiph first came out, like for the first 2 days

[echo oar]

time to read mechanics again

[opaque dagger]

Wave 4 should be left, otherwise it's 100% + 50% + 200% instead of 100% + 200% + 100%

[severe steeple]

I need the next banner to be good, I just bought the 100 eleph package and it gave me a 10-pull ticket that is usable for only 10 days

[remote summit]

Pull on reisa

[opaque dagger]

Last one is whatever ye, just for groggy

[echo oar]

where are you getting those percents from?

[round kayak]

Some wild things gonna happen seeing there's three schools rn in tow

[opaque dagger]

The left core has a dmg reduction shield no? If you don't take down the shield you do only 50% dmg iirc

Lemme check

[round kayak]

Maybe we will get our second red buffer

[echo oar]

ye ye

I just can't find the 200%

[opaque dagger]

Oh that's Light that Extinguishes the Moment

You get core groggy and do 100% extra dmg

[echo oar]

ahhh yah the groggy

[frail glen]

Coincidence?

[echo oar]

yeah as far as I see, it's just left that has a 50% damage reduction thing, and you get +100% damage when one of them gets hit by two of the skills

[opaque dagger]

Wave 4 should be left, but Wave 1 was me misplaying ye

Cos if you go right on Wave 4 it's 100/50/200, going left is 100/200/100

[round kayak]

Seeing Rena's face it's probably gonna be some shizo sht himari cooked up

[echo oar]

I don't see the 200!!

[round kayak]

[opaque dagger]

100% incoming dmg debuff

[echo oar]

or rather, what's the third number

[opaque dagger]

So that's 200% dmg

[frail glen]

I still believe in the HImari Terror

arrgghhh

COPE MAXIMUMM

[opaque dagger]

Oh top/left/right

[echo oar]

oh that's what you mean!

[opaque dagger]

I don't see how going right is the play

[pastel mortar]

That's beyond copium

[opaque dagger]

So should be right right left left whatever

[frail glen]

BUT THIS, IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND

[echo oar]

tbh yeah I agree with that

I forgot I'd been going left on wave 4 too

the 50% damage reduction does wear off after a bit though

so as long as you attack the left one last, it should still be fine?

but I dunno if you'll get 200% damage on the right one, since the bomb doesn't go off instantly like that

[opaque dagger]

No, it does not get removed without sticky bomb

[young lotus]

RAID

NOW

GIMME

[opaque dagger]

It does apparently, the F100 Saori Dress solo uses that

[young lotus]

I CRAAAAVE RAID

MALD

RAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[round kayak]

Go back to sleep baldnut

[young lotus]

YESOD NOW

[round kayak]

[quartz remnant]

Show us ur ue60 nagusa

[young lotus]

Ew

[echo oar]

I mean, you're going right on the first wave

[young lotus]

Eri is cuter

[opaque dagger]

That is how I found out I've been doing Wave 1 wrong this entire time

[quartz remnant]

Fair opinion

[echo oar]

cause the left side's dmg reduction wears off

[quartz remnant]

But you care about the numbers only

[opaque dagger]

Yea the protective field never wears off

[echo oar]

and you go right so you can get the missile shooter to get hit by both its missiles and the bomb

it does!!

[young lotus]

Im not a whel with nagisa or eri built

[opaque dagger]

You just accept that 50 + 200 is higher than 100 + 100

[lyric hatch]

It wears off i always wait it out

[young lotus]

Im f2p strat using ue60 uneru +rio

[quartz remnant]

Same

[young lotus]

[quartz remnant]

We both are f2p

[opaque dagger]

If it does then why would the TL blast left side first

Hmmm

[echo oar]

hah the tl might be bad then

oh wait nm

the tl isn't bad, but yeah it just uses it late

that's what my clear does

if you use saori when you see the yellow flash of the missile launcher, the EX hits right after the shield wears off

[opaque dagger]

My guy called F100 Saori Dress solo TL bad

[echo oar]

cause that's the only way I can take out left side with just hikari + rio buffs

I thought you meant the tl did it early!!

but nah it probably just does what I did there

[opaque dagger]

No it clears instantly

Just takes the L on left side

To double hit right side iirc

[echo oar]

gimme the vid

ahhh yeah that makes sense

but yeah if you're only doing 2 dsao EXs, you can wait for the left side to wear off

and then you do left right for 100% 200%

[opaque dagger]

https://youtu.be/2dAHzm_X45A

This is way too aggressive, and Cherino is mandatory here

Otherwise you don't have enough cost for this bald rot

[opaque dagger]

[echo oar]

riiiight yeah that makes sense, the way it does it

[frail glen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-think-meme-jgmm-cat-think-meme-ragebait-gif-14788872422707786751

[echo oar]

50/200/200 like you were saying

[frail glen]

I wonder if I should max UE60 Nozomi and D saori, then borrow Tyuuka to try clear F100

Is it worth it

[echo oar]

you can do f100 with much less

ue40 on them, if not much less for dsao

[opaque dagger]

UE50 is hella enough if you run double DPS

[echo oar]

iirc arch says 3* dsao does f100, but idk how optimized the rest of the team is for that

[opaque dagger]

Super comfy

You just take the terrain buff if you got skill issue

But UE60-ing both is whel nonsense for just F100

[frail glen]

Is the reward from FRR worth it

It is just LB materials and some gifts right?

[opaque dagger]

For that much investment? No

[frail glen]

Ight

[opaque dagger]

F100+ is gifts, reports, balls and credits

[past spruce]

Also cool title

[echo oar]

it's entirely just for pride, if you aren't pushing to f105/106 for the gifts

or yeah the f100 title

[opaque dagger]

Next you'll say I wanna do F112 for the gifts

Then F118, then F124

[echo oar]

if it's within reach!!

I'm gonna give baris chok a fair shot

[past spruce]

I'm doing f124 blue set for the gifts

[echo oar]

as long as the investments aren't godawful

[opaque dagger]

Tiph is honestly the worst one to push past F100 imo

[ripe mason]

124 tiph is pretty free

[past spruce]

Chair

[steep vortex]

wow thats super cheap

ill try later

[echo oar]

I wanna do f102 tomorrow now

that one missed bot alone basically gives me the clear if I can replicate that run

and I think I have another point of improvement

[opaque dagger]

The pre-firing is insane for that F100 clear

I'm not gamer enough for such things

[echo oar]

it's absurd

well I mean, you just know the timing after a bit

[old rose]

missing renge it's impossible

[young lotus]

Your reminder that theres more rewards in frr now

[old rose]

gotta do f124...

any replacements for qtomoe in this team

[steep vortex]

no you need to use qtomoe to perfectly center the units so they one shot the boss sadly

[shell tree]

I wanna finally raise kaede and use her for tiph, but it looks like the only comps that use her also need ue40 oshig…

[steep vortex]

its a super well designed team that has to be perfect

[opaque dagger]

Yuuka Track, just use Shigure Hot Spring instead, trust

[old rose]

tyuukalet...

[opaque dagger]

Or Kaede I guess

[frail glen]

you should use T Hasumi because she is free from event archive

[old rose]

can't f124 ig

[frail glen]

[shell tree]

do they still stop at the same floor

[young lotus]

Should be ye

[steep vortex]

wait more rewards now?

how much more are we talking

[old rose]

are f100+ rewards increased?

[shell tree]

I vaguely remember nearly double

[young lotus]

Its lb mats

126

Up from 72

Stops before floor 100 still

[steep vortex]

holy damn

[young lotus]

Its getting more worth putting in some effort to climb tower

[steep vortex]

oh, were probably getting lb50 soon then

[young lotus]

Especially if you can comfy plat already in slacc regions

[summer dew]

sleepy seia

[wanton pilot]

[atomic arrow]

[patent vault]

Couldnt you use mreisa instead or no

[shell tree]

is that enough healing

[young lotus]

Kaede for lunatic yesod

[shell tree]

that’s precisely why I’m raising her lol

[west perch]

main buffs were 1-49. Minor at 50-74, none for 75+

[shell tree]

does kaede basic matter for yesod luna

[west perch]

Yes

wait, uh basic+

[shell tree]

who has the highest def

[old rose]

man I was so excited to get 2 purple reports instead of 1

[west perch]

yeah nvm it doesn't
Main thing is just having basic+

[shell tree]

so, like, lvl 7 basic+ is good enough?

[west perch]

ye

deniki's whel clear has her at 51MM

[ruby laurel]

I hope we’re in the same bracket next. So you can see my pink title

[proven dove]

Did we always have gears raffles in frr rewards ?

[round kayak]

On lower floors yeah

[proven dove]

Maybe this is the first time I focused on the rewards content

[round kayak]

I only realised that when I was interested what rewards lower floors gave

[west perch]

part of the buffs

[round kayak]

Oh was it on the buffs

Hmm swore I saw them also before

[proven dove]

Niice

[hollow saddle]

Lb mat rewards also increased as well

[proven dove]

I'm always atk lb poor so that's really nice

[round kayak]

More fooder for crafting

[woven sigil]

TLDR: 126 lb books instead of 72

[west perch]

concentrated in 1-49

you can see above 75+ is completely untouched

[proven dove]

Photon, let's say you're raising boshi to b50.

And you bought 10 of nagisa's music boxes from some event.

And you kinda wanna b50 eventually, just not a priority.

Do you prioritize your target boshi and give them (40exp) to her, or do you give them to nagisa ?

[woven sigil]

It heavily depends of what do you mean by "eventually"

[proven dove]

Kinda friendly, I hope they buff more of frr gifts so I take it more seriously

[woven sigil]

I'd say...

[west perch]

the buff to gifts is being able to clear 124

that alone has motivated me

[woven sigil]

Right no there's no need to push boshino bond, no peroro on the horizon

So at this moment I would give them to Nagisa

[untold tusk]

You certain about no Peroro?

[woven sigil]

You should also consider that Boshino has 3 +60 gifts

[west perch]

what if lun srkr needs ue60 b50+50+50 for boshi to double bounce

[round kayak]

Oh hey nice stonks

[woven sigil]

JP haven't had peroro rerun

[round kayak]

[untold tusk]

Not yet...........

[woven sigil]

Use d.Tsukuyo

[west perch]

but def down

[woven sigil]

Kaiju option then

[proven dove]

I want some pointers about how to bond raise. I chose the boshi nagi exp to explain not as literal (my bad).

I'm having this issue, needing to fuse gifts for og hina, but many gifts can be beneficial to other students, even with 40 exp (especially uneru loool)

[woven sigil]

You can DM me

I can explain how I do it

[west perch]

it depends on your prio

[past spruce]

[woven sigil]

I did 9 B50s in 1 year

[past spruce]

Ssg

[west perch]

because frankly high bond doesn't matter

in regular clears, at least

[proven dove]

It's just a hobby I wanna partake in.

Even to bond raise waifus

[echo oar]

noooo say it here!

[west perch]

then you must sacrifice others for your cause

[echo oar]

I wanna hear the ravings of other bondchasers

[round kayak]

the path of minmaxing bonds looks fun

[quiet raft]

I wanna b100 s.nagi

[round kayak]

if only rng wasn't so sht

[west perch]

I literally emptied my gift bar for b50 og mika

[past spruce]

[round kayak]

Wao 6 eggs

🔪

[echo oar]

tbh I think 2 gears of minmaxing f2p gift income lets you get b50s with just 2-3 different favorites

[past spruce]

Speaking of eggs....

[echo oar]

like if someone has a 240 gift and 2 60 gifts, you can use literally those 3 gifts to b50 them in 2 years

and every 3 stacks of different gifts is another b50

[round kayak]

I'm pretty close to making kei B50, should be able to get enough before she drops

[echo oar]

source: my own stash

[round kayak]

[quiet raft]

Is it worth buying gifts on event?

[past spruce]

Yeah

[round kayak]

Purple gifts are pretty good

[wanton pilot]

Most important: Pat 6+ times a day

-Don't recraft gifts
-Always give them out to favs
-Buy the 30 pyro invites
-Prioritize bonding multiple targets in lessons
-Spam your cafe ONLY with furniture of bond targets
-Only tier 3 craft and only pick flower whenever possible
-If a student has interactable furniture, don't rush bonding them with gifts, you're losing out long term.
-Save boxes for shit like Hina who like almost nothing

Ur welcome

[quiet raft]

Yeah, I always buy the purple

[west perch]

I now have 50+35+35 on aaris

[quiet raft]

And the furniture cuz I like seeing them girls play on my cafe

[echo oar]

haha that sounds exactly like my own plans, minus buying the 30 pyro invites

[round kayak]

Nouuuu I don't want to turn my cafe to a bondmaxxing warehouse

[echo oar]

I follow the exact same principles to a tee, though

[quiet raft]

Fill your cafe with Kanna chairs

[echo oar]

but yeah this is my mreisa!! after 23 months of playing, I literally only gave her 2 stacks of gifts, street of thugs mags and hitgirls mags

no fusing or anything, and a third stack of gifts would have pushed her to like b48 or so

[sly kraken]

I like my cafe an ikea showcase room filled with interactable furniture

[round kayak]

Too kaiju for me to complete 🧎‍♂️

[echo oar]

you too can be kaiju with age

[round kayak]

I only have 2 B50 and one incoming

[west perch]

giving hitgirl smh

[quiet raft]

I try to make it look good or something

[echo oar]

I aint givin them to aris!

it's either mreisa or one of the hares

[past spruce]

My M.Reisa only b33, ssg wheldiens

[west perch]

mine are either b30 or 50 for gifts

[simple zinc]

[quiet raft]

I should probably stuff the Saori DJ stage

[simple zinc]

Does Mreisa need UE40

[quiet raft]

she is 3* and at b20 already

[echo oar]

always a tough choice

[west perch]

for lun kkg, no. For 124 set, yes.

[echo oar]

I really don't like having furniture in if they're (capped at) b20 already

[quiet raft]

it's sad tbh

[echo oar]

it's a tradeoff only you can make

[quiet raft]

I don't even know who to get ue for tbh

[echo oar]

do you wanna see them in your cafe regardless of the potential lost bond

[round kayak]

Anyone got a cheap F124 blue set comp

[echo oar]

3* baris should do it

[quiet raft]

I just save until I have an idea of who to max raise

[echo oar]

yeee that's the way

[quiet raft]

though I feel tempted to just squander it sometimes, like those people on pvp I see

[round kayak]

don't

[quiet raft]

who even got their hina ue40?

this is gehenna scrimmage btw

[past spruce]

https://youtu.be/mrV3sTLIoDQ?si=pFx4BRZem_M2mrmF

[echo oar]

that's ue60, and all oldheads probably have hina ue60

just from farming hards over time

[round kayak]

Damm I need to farm chihiro first

[quiet raft]

oh right hina is farmable

I just farm tuna because I simp

[past spruce]

I only need Kei and ue50 s.roko now

[quiet raft]

And Aru for t mats

[past spruce]

Some of my units are over invested anyways

[round kayak]

I only need kuroko, chihiro, kei, UE 50 iwak, and kokona now

[west perch]

[round kayak]

[past spruce]

[quiet raft]

[past spruce]

Gigamaxed Kuroko, ue30 Kokona, ue50 B.Roko when set arrives and ue50 Chihiro

I probably need to 4* NY.Kayoko

[sly kraken]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897744969769549875/1193300239411576912/caption.gif

[echo oar]

tbh idk if there's a massive difference in bond furniture past like 20 or so

[fleet narwhal]

I LOVE MADOKA !!!!

[echo oar]

my cafes are filled to the brim, and I still get like 8/10 lured students on average

vs when I was getting 6/10 or 7/10 with a much more reasonable amount

[supple star]

Can't believe f124 is this cheap

[proven dove]

She doesn't need ue40 for luna kurokage ?

[old rose]

no ue30 works

[proven dove]

This is quite the news for me, making my ligma spendings a little lighter

[tender olive]

Whats chihiro's purpose there?

[past spruce]

Atk down

[tender olive]

I see

[past spruce]

She has the highest atk down on her basic skill

[west perch]

I'll be borrowing troko for that

make it a bit easier for myself

[old rose]

wtf that's a ue50 troko

[obsidian heath]

do you have ue3 fish?

it's not a coincidence there's a high invest fish in such a poverty clear

[untold tusk]

What is buff retention does that mean the duration or?

[lyric hatch]

Extends the duration of your buff

[untold tusk]

Perhaps is good the extended duration on a buff

[lyric hatch]

Wat

[woven sigil]

UE40 requires stab mald without blue sphere active

But avg damage is higher than sphere hp

It's no buffs (reisa sub only) b31/20/20

F124 ball hp is 192 200

[echo oar]

I always forget the mood diff when trying to figure out these things

was wondering why it was so low

b50/50/50 ue40 only whiffs the stab one in every 6 attempts though

[woven sigil]

B50/50/50 shiroko is wtf

[echo oar]

I think broconut or someone was crazy enough to do that for some rogue strat

[woven sigil]

In reality

I think that blue sphere will compensate some

But it won't be present each iwak ex

[icy fog]

is there any event character in hidden ruins event?

[echo oar]

skoharu gets archived then

[woven sigil]

sKoharu

[icy fog]

woah double koharu double the fun

[woven sigil]

It's recap though

[icy fog]

the rerun event is the redwinter/shanhaijing

hidden ruins is immortalized

[woven sigil]

correct

Qipao event is...

Buy the gifts and forget

And ligma

From shop which currency we farm in battleship game

[frail glen]

I know I finished the spark on magical girls banner because I convinced myself that SUI and S Hinata are not worth pulling

however.....

[echo oar]

don't do it

[dim frigate]

Never stop 🐳 ing

[untold tusk]

SUi and SHinata are not worth I would roll SHinata on the potential encore

[frail glen]

like

their L2ds are not that good

[echo oar]

ehhh encore isn't the be-all-end-all though

[frail glen]

but the design is

arrgghhhh

[untold tusk]

I like the SHinata l2d

[echo oar]

it's not any cheaper unless you get lucky with 2 rate-ups before sparking

[frail glen]

also I slacc FRR anyway

[proven dove]

I like sui's design and l2d, she was a waifu must pull since I've read her event

[frail glen]

not much use with sui

[untold tusk]

Though for me I am always a lot more inclined to roll striker students which SHinata is not

[frail glen]

also just to point out
somehow UI never really hangs with Shimiko during event stories
always UI and Hinata

[echo oar]

I mean, did you read the afterword in this very event we're in?

[proven dove]

That scene changed many people pov on shimiko :p

[frail glen]

UI is not the MC of this event though

I meant like

they never shared a spotlight together as MCs

[proven dove]

It's vigilante focused

[teal nova]

it's like reisa rarely hangs out with suzumi beside on this event

[frozen chasm]

?

reisa usually hang with the suzumi on her patrol though

the arius story had that remember?

[limber pulsar]

how do i know my exact bond with a student

[frozen chasm]

where reisa and suzumi ran into sensei taking the arius student on a trip

[teal nova]

i didnt read that part yet
nvm then

[frail glen]

contrary to popular beliefs

Reisa actually has a lot of friends and hang out with different people everyday

all hidden in her momo though

[frozen chasm]

less than friend but more like... people who finds her dumbass adorable

[daring coral]

[frail glen]

sometimes I wish everyone is a adorable dumbass

[brave totem]

what in the purple

[frozen chasm]

but we're only dumbass and not adorable

[frail glen]

who is we?

I am adorable af

source: me

wait no that implies I am a dumbass

anyway you get the idea

[frozen chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/false-facts-fake-news-gif-3718583105056900815

[gritty laurel]

i do not not NOT disagree

[echo oar]

oh rabu's a desuwa girl

[frail glen]

Rabu is a motherly girl

[gritty laurel]

sensei just running up to rabu during momotalk is something new to me and i love it

she deadass gets paranoid later down the line

[strange ridge]

Rabu: Messages via Momotalk
Sensei:

https://tenor.com/view/aot-titans-attack-on-titan-titan-flip-funny-titans-gif-25313042

[woven sigil]

Sensei: "Get a normal j*b, Rabu"

[tender olive]

Why he didn't say that to shiroko as well

[fiery kiln]

more pyro

still bricked

[frail glen]

shiroko is still studying in the school
+
shiroko more of a hobby than a job

[tender olive]

But i think she's more professional than shiroko..

Rabu should recruit shiroko

[frail glen]

btw I like the implication that Rabu is actually a really good student ( she got good grades)
she dropped out so she can help the girls and lead them

I mean what to expect from a trinity student

[woven sigil]

🎉

[tender olive]

Decent

Tbh in the story i like rabu's character

[sleek flicker]

So I found this and just laugh at it

[quartz remnant]

You should replace msuzumi with kei

2 cost for 51% attack buff

Crit too

[pallid inlet]

Or nezo

[desert sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/588740237065191424.webp?size=64

We're getting closer to deny there is no power creep in BA

[quartz remnant]

I thought everyone here already accepted powercreep

What do you honestly expect from a gacha game

[round kayak]

half of it is from offtopic

[pallid inlet]

Hello nezo

https://tenor.com/view/shiroko-iwak-seikanashi-blue-archive-blueaca-gif-12576967082864112841

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-go-fast-sonic-the-hedgehog-fast-speed-motion-blur-gif-18342829

[round kayak]

hello jerome

[desert sphinx]

oh come now, this statement was a thing

[proven dove]

There is powercreep but it's overall well done and balanced in ba, compared to other gachas where it's actually an issue.

[ripe mason]

when are they gonna powercreep nodoka

[quartz remnant]

Not sure abt that anymore after mkaris and kei were released

mkaris even got her exclusive hyperbuffer next banner after her

Def not as bad as some gacha tho

[snow portal]

It's not really balanced powercreep, it's just been slower paced

[proven dove]

I was gonna say that but abstained due to lack of information on my part

[sly ice]

Hello chat hru?

[proven dove]

The thing I liked usually powercrept units find some other content to have some relevance there, for a while at least

[gritty laurel]

suffering but in a cute way

[snow portal]

Until the next powercreep comes to stomp them out

😭

[pure vessel]

still beating myself up over using gifts recklessly

[sly ice]

Why?

[proven dove]

Yeah that's life

[pure vessel]

I should've held onto the bouquet packeji

I immediately dumped it on mari and now I need to use suboptimal gifts on wakamo to hit the bond threshold for the strat I want to do

[quartz remnant]

Wakamo doesn't need max bond in luna unless ur not using kaede

Otherwise uhh

You need to max specials too

[snow portal]

What raid?

[old rose]

mashpit is chasing r1

[proven dove]

Yes he's trying single digit strats

So ue60 specials and everything

[proven dove]

Yesod

[snow portal]

Ahh

[quartz remnant]

I hope he did the calculations in db

[gritty laurel]

forgot to turn off automatic choice tickets while equipment upgrading

[quartz remnant]

If you guys are interested of how much bond she needs:

[ripe mason]

ue60 nyharuka looks like a terrible investment

[pure vessel]

yeah I need 50 + 50 wakamo and 36 + 20 haruka/reisa

[quartz remnant]

It is what it is

[pure vessel]

lb25 on all

[quartz remnant]

No alternatives

[pure vessel]

reisa/haruka (base) get a lot more hp from bond than the specials because they're tanks

[ripe mason]

there's the mreisa snagi alternative

[pure vessel]

so 36/20 is better bond exp distribution

yeah mreisa snagi is an alternative and it's a lot easier to meet bond thresholds on because snagi has much higher stats than nyharuka

but it's also like a full minute slower than r1

and my goal is sub 10min

so that won't do

[woven sigil]

wtf

[pure vessel]

f2p

[quartz remnant]

Still a lot of investment
2 b35 is almost a b50 unless you pet them in cafe for a long time

[woven sigil]

There were only 2 sub 10min clears on jp

[quartz remnant]

@pure vessel what's ur swakamo bond

[pure vessel]

it's like 40, as I said I'll have to dump suboptimal gifts to get her to hit b50 by raid

😭

[quartz remnant]

Ooo that's 50% of a b50

[ripe mason]

I hope no hp sub wakamo strat won't be the requirement for single digit

[quartz remnant]

I assume you crafted gift boxes

[pure vessel]

yeah, out of yellow crafting stones now

might buy the furniture pack to get a bit more but it won't make a huge difference

[quartz remnant]

Oh

[pure vessel]

maybe 1 more levels worth

[sly ice]

Who and what did you upgrade?

[pure vessel]

man

if I planned this shit in advance I would've had a lot more teddy bears

[quartz remnant]

I assume you also bought the flowers already

[pure vessel]

and bouquets

😭

[orchid axle]

Hi balders

[quiet raft]

👴

[pure vessel]

I fed them to mari lmao, jumped the gun before I made up my mind about how hard I wanted to go on yesod

[dull mauve]

[quartz remnant]

There's a last resort if you are not out of crafting keystones

[pure vessel]

this will cost me

[quiet raft]

are flowers worth buying?

[quartz remnant]

If you care about bond

[orchid axle]

Which one to max first (mreisa), basic or sub

[quiet raft]

[orchid axle]

I'm on M7M7

[quartz remnant]

Sub personally

[fallen scroll]

chat how much hp does wakamo need to survive tor, at bare minimum

45k?

[orchid axle]

Ohk

Thx

[civic jungle]

Because of raid rushing in CN, all item in there raid shop are x2

[quartz remnant]

Do the calculations in db but the requirements isn't that high

[orchid axle]

Imagine nexon made the nuke kill wakamo no matter what

[quartz remnant]

but is it also x2 coins tho

Unless there's 2 TAs in a month

[civic jungle]

Maybe yes

No deadweek more until it's going on like GLB

[quartz remnant]

So TA right after GA
How fun

[civic jungle]

Yes

[old rose]

depends on your specials

[quartz remnant]

What about the pyros tho

[civic jungle]

So if raid right after raid, they will be 4 or 5 day, not 7 day

[civic jungle]

Still same like GLB

[old rose]

45k hp should be more than enough though

[civic jungle]

They will use web ingame event to offset pryo

[shell tree]

Subvitals personally

[civic jungle]

When Kisaki playable, she had 3 web event

[quartz remnant]

Not bad

Is CN more competitive than global

[west perch]

it's CN

[civic jungle]

Yes

[west perch]

they're playing on essentially 2 weeks of raid prep

[civic jungle]

Just Kisaki playable too early, GA peroro had 40m+

[quartz remnant]

At least they have a huge future planner available
Acceleration tends to mess things up but still a huge favor

[civic jungle]

And some noice ins team

[civic jungle]

Yeh

But not for player

Without patch note, we won't know what up next

[west perch]

did you guys get ue60 yet

[civic jungle]

Now is this event, but next 2 weeks will be Idol

[civic jungle]

Not yet

I think may be banner fes 4.0

Make some earlier than GLBB

[quartz remnant]

頂分名字是有栖老公
不過我聽說有栖本人已經賣號了

[civic jungle]

If any update that GLB do earlier than JP, CN will BE earlier than GLB

[quartz remnant]

So lunatic geb will be coming within like 6 months?
You guys are catching up quick ngl

[marble gust]

whos husband

[west perch]

they might get ue60 on luna geb

[civic jungle]

It will be 3 months

Late march will be Idol event

[woven sigil]

They got Kisaki on GA Peroro lmao

[civic jungle]

So fes 4.0 not to far

[quartz remnant]

One of the top players in TW, I don't know him tho

[marble gust]

ouh

[quartz remnant]

Also he is prob a male

[marble gust]

yea i get the joke ofc

[civic jungle]

I made wrong way to use pryo so I lost aslo fes 3.5 and Kisaki

So

I will eco

Maybe skip Idol

[quartz remnant]

Death sentence imo

Especially when ur score chasing

[west perch]

skip idol debut???

back when she arrived on global imari was already considered human rights
appeared in majority of lunatics

[shell tree]

skipping imari is brick as fuck

don’t do it

[quartz remnant]

Bricked at luna geb, greg, kurokage and uhh

Prob all except goz

[gritty laurel]

im forced to skip :3

[polar orbit]

unforce it

[west perch]

"forced"

[shell tree]

you shall reap what you sow

[quartz remnant]

Also if you are a luna player skipping wappi immediately brick you from 2 lunatics

As in ur forced to do torment

[west perch]

well despite that i doubt CN will cut tor cutoff

[grim pine]

do these stack?

[west perch]

enhanced aura, EX aura, EX applied

[grim pine]

that's crazy

[quartz remnant]

Yes
If not it will show you

[west perch]

if it doesn't cancel out in the UI of schale, it stacks

[grim pine]

[gritty laurel]

and 11000 pyroxenes

[shell tree]

what did you do

[gritty laurel]

WDYM WHAT DID I DO-

[west perch]

they just pulled for banners not as necessary

[gritty laurel]

nope

[shell tree]

I’m a victim blamer when it comes to people who are skipping imari

[west perch]

says the newbie with less than a spark of pyrox

own the grave you dug in

[untold tusk]

I am guessing they 600 rolls last fes

[gritty laurel]

okay now that just hurts

[grim pine]

only kaijus do 600 on fes

[west perch]

ofc, this is just us criticising you from a meta perspective
feel free to ignore us if you don't care

[old rose]

feel free to ignore if you do care

[shell tree]

it hurts to see

[opal stag]

[quartz remnant]

One easy fix of all your problems

💳

[shell tree]

your pfp

[little timber]

If i didn't get imari at 40, i would get forced skipped cause no pyrox at that moment

[quartz remnant]

That's certainly another one.

[little timber]

And credit card is forbidden.

[grim pine]

i was soooooooo lucky to pull iwappi in limited scam tix

[shell tree]

what did you do

[grim pine]

now i only need 1 spark to regain human rights

[west perch]

I was ready to skip wappi to bricc on geb back then

heck I was ready to skip uneru to brick on yellows

[little timber]

It was back then i tried to get one unique student before fest like 3 months ago

[quartz remnant]

The shupo?

[little timber]

Yes, shuppos

[grim pine]

[shell tree]

shupos were after idols, though?

[quartz remnant]

Yes

[civic jungle]

BBut I just have 6k pryo and 1 x10 ticket

[pure vessel]

shu shu po po

[quartz remnant]

Ur a f2p?

[shell tree]

I meant how did you get to the point where you couldn’t afford to spark imari

[civic jungle]

And Idol will coming in late march

[west perch]

the consequences of acceleration

[pure vessel]

we need to go FASTER

[quartz remnant]

Skull idek why acceleration exist in global

[pure vessel]

I wonder if the new up event will give us konoka

I actually really like her

[shell tree]

it certainly doesn’t help the meta players

[pure vessel]

I kinda wish we had more acceleration tbh

I like frontrunning content

[round kayak]

I pray for the new meta chasers

[pure vessel]

knowing that every strat I do in a raid has been discovered and picked over by jp raiders already makes my clears feel a bit hollow

[round kayak]

[civic jungle]

p2p in CN so hard

[shell tree]

It just doesn’t look viable anymore

Anyone who started after dhina is rip (I’m exaggerating for effect here)

[quartz remnant]

You got jp for that
But tbh global can also do that

TW figured out a reliable 5200+ clear for luna peroro

[west perch]

as in catching up to lunatic? Cuz tor is very easy

[pure vessel]

plus having too big of a gap between jp and global definitely results in hype for new content kind of fizzling out before it reaches en

[west perch]

we have a couple less than 6 month old players here doing tor now

[round kayak]

mostly just luna atp

[shell tree]

like, spooking all fest and getting all meta students

and getting enough trinity mats

[west perch]

well, that matters less than catching up to the latest difficulty

[shell tree]

hell, even I can never get enough trinity mats

[pure vessel]

lol I greeded and tried to attempt tor binah on a level ~73 jp account that was a month old

too greedy

not enough mats to max skills either

[tender eagle]

How close did you get

[west perch]

old meta is not new meta.
Back when I started, tyuuka was a must have. Now, even she's a luxury.
Only reason she has a consideration during this period is that she's running alongside kisaki

[round kayak]

did you get it down halfway at least?

[pure vessel]

not even close tbh

[quartz remnant]

Understandable
But tbh even at 3 months it doesn't change much
Maybe ba will eos before that lmao

[pure vessel]

I couldnt figure out a way to keep everyone alive

[shell tree]

is she optional in goz now

[pure vessel]

ins was a cakewalk

[quartz remnant]

Luna?

Still needed imo

[shell tree]

I SUPPOSE

[quartz remnant]

Torment no

[west perch]

minimum clears, post-kei aaris? Likely

[round kayak]

do they even have any extra leeways on the current global schedule for accelerations

[west perch]

like newbies can spook both seimi qtomoe and they have sshizuko for free

[shell tree]

newbie looking at 1-star sshizuko…

[quartz remnant]

Not happening unless they have god luck

[tender eagle]

If they're going for Luna they'll star shizuko if they need to

[west perch]

yeah, but i ain't talking about 1 year lunatic that shit's crazy

[grim pine]

yeah i've spent like 15 sparks since they were released and haven't gotten them lol

spooks aren't real

hell i don't even have freaking MARINA

[frail glen]

why is my hasumi like this...

[west perch]

newbies now will be clearing lunatic in 1.5 years from now probably
That's 6 new fes units

[frail glen]

I wil try my best

[sleek flicker]

Yuuka Jumpscare

[quartz remnant]

It takes 6 months to reach max level
It might take longer than that if they're missing hyperbuffers

[summer dew]

Momoi (Yuuka (Pajamas))

[west perch]

dw it took me 856 days to spook koyuki

[quartz remnant]

Banners takes a year to rerun so

[frail glen]

don' forget to account for invest and mats

[west perch]

6 months is an old ass figure

[frail glen]

maybe not enough mats for teams

[shell tree]

how does kei aaris change things? Cut down required teams by one?

[round kayak]

I am attempting my first luna as a 410 year old account

[frail glen]

I think I did 6x daily for exp and still took me around 4-5 months

[west perch]

6 months is a figure we said before xp bonuses were a thing, before we got 2x xp weekends every damn month

[quartz remnant]

Rlly
My alt got max level around January and it started around July

[west perch]

we've had double xp weekends for 10 months now

[sleek flicker]

Meanwhile mine Is at October when starting at December

[quartz remnant]

You got those beloved resource packs in the shop
I will never buy them tho

[snow portal]

Hunger

[shell tree]

are you a budding meta player

[old rose]

i reached lvl 90 in 4 months doing 3x daily and small hoard for 2x/3x exp weekends, and that was before the buff to newbie exp bonus

[shell tree]

I reached lvl 90 in 99 days

[summer dew]

i did mostly 3x with some 6x days and took me 4 months 3 weeks

[old rose]

so newbies nowadays should really be able to do it in 4 months easily

[pure vessel]

?

I'd say closer to 3 months if you buy x3 refresh

4.5~5 otherwise

newbie exp bonus is huge and you get x2 exp almost every weekend now

[summer dew]

pretty much yeah, i slacked for the first month or two

i started out very casual

[west perch]

again, they don't need every hyperbuffer though

[summer dew]

got serious around lvl70

[old rose]

luna binah is probably doable in 6 months with decent spooks

[shell tree]

I’m not sure how much quick acct lvling actually helps, since report income didn’t change

[summer dew]

it's ass

[quartz remnant]

Maybe
I didn't buy a lot of ap refreshes on my alt

[summer dew]

up to this day im not keeping up

[west perch]

not to mention what newbies will have are new hyperbuffers

except shoshi ig

[quartz remnant]

Some are very irreplaceable unless a direct upgrade got released like chare and daru
Limited like sseia too

[round kayak]

its mostly for them to access farming expert permits early

[pure vessel]

yeah uh

not having limited hyperbuffers is ass

seia sseia

[west perch]

ok so how do we feel about missing nyfuuka here

not a new discussion

[pure vessel]

you can live without her nowadays

[round kayak]

kinda dependent on the roster

[pure vessel]

but this assumes you have seia

[west perch]

and yet we can say that now

[quartz remnant]

And snagisa

[pure vessel]

yeah

snagi

[summer dew]

she saved my ass a lot of times when i still didn't have daru, ako, snagi

[pure vessel]

is big

[west perch]

take that into perspective

[quartz remnant]

I still buy her elephs

[round kayak]

if they dont have any of the other limited buffers she's a strong pick

[pure vessel]

the cost debt functionally lets you fit in an extra ex without the cost down and she has cdmg buff too

[west perch]

and put it to what we have now vs the units we'll have in the future

[quartz remnant]

You are betting on future banners

You shouldn't do that

[west perch]

because this is a cycle

[pure vessel]

if you have neither snagi nor seia then I'd pick up nyfuuka to cope

[west perch]

I'm not saying they can skip nyfuuka to bet on a random ass banner

[proven dove]

Yes, at least kisaki/tyuuka banner from 14 days to 7.

[west perch]

I'm saying the new solution will come before newbies will even attempt lunatic

and everyone must pulls on their debut banner and the rest is history

half of gpd doesn't even respect himari nowadays

[quartz remnant]

Still relevant if it gets more then 3 pans

Blame rio and snagisa

[proven dove]

I see it so far so good, but I'm kinda scared about the future, how the new supports and dps will be even better than their predecessors.

[summer dew]

i was kikilet charelet riolet iwaklet until last fes. now i'm "only" kikilet riolet from those

i do appreciate himari

[quartz remnant]

Usually a direct upgrade doesn't happen unless it's a fest like kei but

You never know

[round kayak]

its pretty much the normal cycle of gacha games where an older buffer gets overshadowed by future units

[pure vessel]

most regular banner units seem luna focused

and limiteds/fes are strong enough to present themselves as new meta for lower diffs

[quartz remnant]

Because they know f2p will only pull limited and fest
So the only way to get more money is by adding human rights/luna specific

[novel thorn]

unless some restriction where some meta buffer get banned but that's not gonna happen

[quartz remnant]

Even some f2p isn't pulling dmichiru

[proven dove]

I mean even the fes units gotta get powercrept eventually.

The only good solution to this imo is more new content, in which the units we have aren't viable much and future units will be.

[west perch]

well

[quartz remnant]

We do get new content called 'armor' which is totally not overused and boring

Saturation? Just release another new armor like composite and elastic

And boom new dps and specific buffers

How smart

[pure vessel]

but tbh

it's not like the old meta units get any worse

[proven dove]

More armor was expected since the purple color release, since I started the game it was clear to me we'll have 2 more similar colors to purple with time :3

But even that has its limits, releasing new colors isn't a card that can always be played.

[pure vessel]

so even if the new fes/limiteds become the new meta you can still clear content with the older units and strats

[quartz remnant]

They are playing it tho

[pure vessel]

it's only on super competitive servers like kr and jp where you have torment speedrun cutoff where it actually makes a difference

[summer dew]

imo they should stop cooking with the armor attack colors and just slap them all out asap to balance the resists/weaknesses across all colors

[proven dove]

Yeah green and orange are expected :3

I think they said they'll add new content in which no more longer relevant units will be relevant again.

[pure vessel]

your wish has been granted, 30 new units in the next month to fill out the new color niches

[summer dew]

i'm not saying all at once, just "asap"

[snow portal]

If only I had 300kg...
Then I could complete triplet strikers

[pure vessel]

🐒

[grim pine]

orange?

what the hell is orange

[pure vessel]

orange box

[proven dove]

They have to take their time :p to fill up future schedule and milk players a bit (within reason to them)

[marble gust]

lmao havent people cropped out the "its gold" by msuzumi in the card drawing shop

[snow portal]

Orange Box? Haven't heard that name in years

[proven dove]

Like purple and green, an imagination of the 3rd color of that type

[frail glen]

tf2?

orange box mentioned

[snow portal]

TFS/Portal/Half-Life

Ol' classic

[frail glen]

i prob can't even talk and walk properly when orange bxo released

[grim pine]

maybe in 2 years

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[proven dove]

Quite accurate I'd say

[quartz remnant]

Next armor should be a premium red

[frail glen]

I can't believe they chose green over orange as the second mix color

like come on

orange is wayyy cooler

[snow portal]

Yeah yeah I know I'm Unc @grim pine

[quartz remnant]

I like green actually

[frail glen]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-my-house-squidward-spunch-bob-spongebob-yell-gif-20033081

nah I am joking

or am I

you decide

[round kayak]

where pink colour

[pure vessel]

under plana skirt

[grim pine]

[frail glen]

[pure vessel]

[round kayak]

so thats why under arona is blue

[quartz remnant]

[proven dove]

Green is my favourite color irl

[round kayak]

green melek

[snow portal]

Oh so you like Midori

[round kayak]

g.melek

🦖

[proven dove]

Yes

[frail glen]

you can't judge one's unddie based on their primary color appearance

[summer dew]

this is how i imagined the attack/def tables to go out eventually

[frail glen]

mutsuki's was yellow iirc

[round kayak]

wait I know this pokemon

uhm

[proven dove]

My role model when I was 4 years old

[frail glen]

It looks like one of those kaiju from mini ultraman series

[proven dove]

It's not a pokemon x) it's older

[round kayak]

digimon?

[summer dew]

digimon came after pokemon bro

[round kayak]

im too young for this

[summer dew]

yeah me too

[frail glen]

any uncs want to share the lore behind that?

my guess is one of those cute spin offs of kaijus

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-digimon-adventure-greymon-taichi-yagami-tai-kamiya-gif-11012772468584380904

A boy and his kaiju

[quartz remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243493639750029382/1462642284381208660/28383071B95595F8AD717F8366ACDF4A.png?ex=696eef47&is=696d9dc7&hm=309b098dd20ef00388faa6636a0a924b305e8ffcc750cfbf3a00df44d51f962e&

[proven dove]

Muka Muka Paradise

[round kayak]

deno childhood leak

[frail glen]

okay that is actualy something I never heard of

and I thought I know a lot of obscure stuffs

[summer dew]

ngl that pokemon table looks like a minesweeper field at first glance

[quartz remnant]

lol true

[proven dove]

It's a very old anime for kids

And the name being closer to mine (or how my family called me casually) I connected to it :p

[round kayak]

aww it looks so cute

[frail glen]

ikr

[round kayak]

old animes do have their standalone charms from today anime

[frail glen]

o wow I wasn't even born when it came out

[frail glen]

FR
they hand draw everything

[frail glen]

got that unique charm

[round kayak]

1993 👴

[frail glen]

my favorite old anime is prob getter robot

[snow portal]

'97

[proven dove]

I was born in 92

[frail glen]

kinda envious
yall actually got to experience seeing the jump to 21st century

idk if I can live long enough to see 22nd century

[round kayak]

just be 100 years old

[snow portal]

I was barely conscious

[frail glen]

still you physically experienced it

[summer dew]

yea the "jump" was crazy. i was a dumb kid doing dumb stuff with my dumb friend thinking we are so cool

i dont remember anything about that night

[frail glen]

it is year 21XX, arona has invaded reality and put everyone into the never awakening matrix named blue archive

[summer dew]

well "anything"

[frail glen]

humanity is doomed

[snow portal]

I remember when the first iphone released. 👴

[frail glen]

the first iphone I actually have fond memory of was iphone 5

barely remember anthing before that

[snow portal]

I remember a time before youtube existed. 👴

[round kayak]

I aint dying till they release a true and real virtual reality game like SAO

[summer dew]

gpd is now uncs reminiscing of how things were cooler without internet

[proven dove]

It's a curse, we all thought we were lucky. We were called The Golden generation.

The issues we had up to this time, not our predecessors nor our next generation has them.

[pure vessel]

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that kids born after 9/11 can drink now

and that was already a while ago

[snow portal]

We all went on Newgrounds and Ebaum's World. 👴

[proven dove]

Still one gotta thank God for his blessings

[dim frigate]

the cool part gaming wise was playing mmos pre-information age

[proven dove]

My goal is to get at least to 120 years

[summer dew]

sir i am now pretty certain we are within 2 to 3 years apart in age

[round kayak]

melek gonna outlive me after my death 🦖

[frail glen]

I am actually pretty lucky enough to experience that somewhat
played a few roblox mmo without able to understand english when I was a kid

[pure vessel]

start talking with someone at a bar and theyre like yeah I was born in 2003

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[snow portal]

I missed out because no good PC/family computer

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[frail glen]

remember guys, you are only old when you admit that you are old

you can technically be young forever

[summer dew]

i am not old

[shell tree]

that’s not gonna fly in court

[dim frigate]

born just in time to spend adult salary on gacha

[frail glen]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[proven dove]

Mine was nokia 1100, upscoring in snake was everyone's aim