💬gameplay-discussion

[feral jetty]

i think it could still happen

1 cost EX strats

[frail glen]

i don't want to get banned

[proven dove]

I'd better focus on farming shunny hasumi mutsuki chise to ue40 since it matters to them

[copper crescent]

So speedruns

[frail glen]

if you look at her l2d, the way she is caring for those chicks(literally don't get the wrong idea), she definitely gives onee san vibes

[copper crescent]

U could check the pins regarding jp policies

[proven dove]

I get you but she's still a delinquent (in her language) and she's a aneki type (big sister to the gang)

While takane is an almost full fledged ojousama :3

[frail glen]

nvm we chilling

[copper crescent]

Ye

[frail glen]

I AM JUST SAYING

this is too peak

[west perch]

oh, you mean not released in global

[proven dove]

Yes, thankfully she's welfare if she was pullable she'd be more worth it to me than suzumi or reisa :p

[snow portal]

Ahh so she's good at taking care of the youth

I will make a note of that

[copper crescent]

Talking about l2d not yet released in jp is

[frail glen]

that's why i am saying that she gives onee san vibes

oh crap I am feeling like Char

idk why I half expected Kivoto chicken to look exactly like Peroro

[proven dove]

You say this because you didn't read skanna's event ? She doesn't give those vibes, she actually has them :p

[frail glen]

I guess this l2d give more lore drops on what animals look like

[west perch]

???

[copper crescent]

Bc peroro is based off of a chicken

[west perch]

you do realise peroro is a franchise right?

[frail glen]

I do

[loud knoll]

peroro is a hippo 🦛

not bird

[frail glen]

but I just had a funny thought on what if kivotos animals just look funky in general

since all the animal citizens looks like normal animals

[copper crescent]

Hifumi not eating chickens bc they look like peroro

[frail glen]

that's a funny thought isn't it

[west perch]

I don't see kids stop eating pork just because they like peppa the pig

[frail glen]

I am saying this because someone said she DOESN'T give those vibes

do pigs irl looks like peppa though

in kivotos, HYPOTHETICALLY AND IS NOT TRUE, chickens could look like peroro

[copper crescent]

Will we have :pkoyukistare:

[frail glen]

[proven dove]

She has them, but takane does not :p internally rabu is entirely different from takane

In many layers

[echo oar]

huh, I just realized I hadn't seen her l2d until now

cute

[lyric hatch]

Still dont see it bruh

[copper crescent]

Wildhut story was so good

[frail glen]

Admiral Fujitora is this you?

iykyk

[lyric hatch]

Nonomi got that onee san vibe something about her differentiates her from rabu

[copper crescent]

Yes

[frail glen]

guys

[copper crescent]

She is more traditional oneesan type

[frail glen]

what if and i am saying what if

there can be multiple oneesan vibes

[frail glen]

[copper crescent]

Holy pkoyuki

[frail glen]

when are we getting pkoyuki kit reveal?

[copper crescent]

Tmr

[frail glen]

need to decide which koyuki to ue60

no i cannot afford both

[loud knoll]

universe was not ready for yellow koyuki and green reisa until recently

[lyric hatch]

Pj koyuki easy

[copper crescent]

What if pkoyuki buffs atk cdmg and ex dmg but it random

[frail glen]

I LOVE MALDING

I LOVE MALD I LOVE MALD I LOVE MALD

[lyric hatch]

Then people are going bald

[frail glen]

give her the highest multiplier and that please

I would love to see it

120%ex and 120%dmg increase, but randomly given to a random student on the field

this cannot be more cinema if it is real

[copper crescent]

Scorechasers in shambles

[frail glen]

I would love to see GPD trying to run this on an actual raid, having to mald random, stab, hit chance, crit, all in once

please make it happen

[old rose]

i fucking love it

[frail glen]

kanoe

[grim finch]

perfect

[old rose]

wrong

[frail glen]

close enough

welcome back kanoe's roommate

[snow portal]

Okay GPD, give me my final destiny draw

[copper crescent]

Miria

[frail glen]

second from the right Miyo

[lyric hatch]

This is basically
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟨

[copper crescent]

Yes

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/arona-blue-archive-arona-no-way-jslutty-blue-archive-no-way-gif-10925032184660804798

[copper crescent]

I mean there is miyo

[old rose]

look currency remaining

[frail glen]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-vegeta-rain-vegeta-sad-dbz-dragon-ball-z-gif-2167897810151461845

[lyric hatch]

Don’t get discouraged Sensei. Misfortune can hint at future fortune

[frail glen]

we all wish to be Goku

but in the end we are all Vegeta

[loud knoll]

Farming gear on Misaki node continues

[sonic crater]

[frail glen]

btw are there any other students who uses same weapon aside from Haruna and Aru?

me curious

[sonic crater]

huh

wdym?

[lyric hatch]

Shiroko and shiroko terror 💀

[frail glen]

[opaque dagger]

Don't ask me, I only stare at boobs

[grim finch]

so real

[dim frigate]

Yukari, Renge kikyou and nagusa

[frail glen]

yeah idk why I forgor about those

four

[lyric hatch]

I mean if you want a real answer doesnt koharu and plana use the same weapon as well?

[odd geyser]

dang if i read this first day, i'd be an owner of miyo rn

[dim frigate]

wakamo's gun is also the same with a modification to those

[proven dove]

I know right x)

[sonic crater]

same LOL

thx god i read it after her banner past

💀

[opaque dagger]

I wouldn't

I'm still under 24k

[grim finch]

thx god i skipped

[summer dew]

theres still like 23h to read everything right?

imma slack

[opaque dagger]

Wdym

Reading doesn't ever expire

[summer dew]

rewards do

[copper crescent]

U can skip and then reread later

[loud knoll]

i read on day 1 and wanted fuyu, but ended with ritsu

[summer dew]

no

[opaque dagger]

Imagine not claiming on Day 1

[summer dew]

skipping is illegal

they should remove skip button entirely

[copper crescent]

Damn

[summer dew]

make it cost pyrox

[dim frigate]

hes COOKING

[loud knoll]

skip pakejis

[copper crescent]

Miyo's character was awesome

[dim frigate]

Currently zero misses in wildhunt

[odd geyser]

yeah i woulda pulled

glad i was lazy

[lyric hatch]

Hell nah

[summer dew]

you are allowed to have 3 free skips a day

after that 120 per skip

thats my final opinion

nexon hear me out

[dim frigate]

story quiz that pops up before being allowed to enter tactical assault

[lyric hatch]

Im just gonna auto and watch youtube video/anime

[frail glen]

alright class, time for a pop reading quiz

sort of vibe

[copper crescent]

And then ppl are just gonna make a list of the questions and their answers

[dim frigate]

ban them

[summer dew]

need to write an essay answer

[lyric hatch]

Pulling up chat gpt

[summer dew]

that will take up 1-3 business days to process

[copper crescent]

But how do they tell if ur answer is right or relevant

Oh

[summer dew]

but if you didn't skip then ur free to go

perfect plan

[copper crescent]

Proceeds to auto instead

[summer dew]

that is your loss

[frail glen]

but who's to judge

the right from wrong

when the sun is down I think we can all agree

sorry it just reminded me of metal gear

[summer dew]

the people in power gets to decide what is "right" or "wrong", that's how world has always worked

[dim frigate]

it would be so funny seeing someone get walled by "story quiz 3" & asking for notes

[copper crescent]

violins bred violins

[odd geyser]

yea ive been slaccing

[stable tulip]

I think skip should be reserved until after you finish the segment. That way if you want to rewatch a specific part of the story and misclick you're fine

[frail glen]

tbf they kinda already incorporated the "force you to read the story" idea

[copper crescent]

U must whel to use skip button

[frail glen]

we couldnt do minigame UNLESS we read the story for the last event

[frail glen]

25 pyro per skip

[copper crescent]

No, $5 for 20 skip passes

[summer dew]

[loud knoll]

~~Battle ~~skip pass

[stable tulip]

is this for global or jp?

[frail glen]

we had it for summer arius event

you can only do the tower defense minigame unless you read the chapters

[summer dew]

reshaping gacha in gpd

[stable tulip]

oh. people skip those 2

[dim frigate]

tbh the guide tasks they put up for the story chapters are pretty nice cause it gets people reading

[loud knoll]

band event also and something else i've forgot

[frail glen]

yep that too

[frail glen]

yeah you CANNOT get the 10x ticket without reading the chapter

you will be around 6-7 off

[summer dew]

sichika card game also

[frail glen]

oh no...

[summer dew]

and code box

[summer dew]

i am at 99/100 because i didn't do comms or read new vol yet

[frail glen]

wait you sure?

[summer dew]

100%

[frail glen]

I remember I did all the activities aside from reading story chapter

and I was like slightly off

[loud knoll]

it varies for different guide tasks, some finish without story I believe

[lilac solar]

0/3 shunny
0/5 pvp

[odd geyser]

ex challenge was a fun little puzzle

[ripe mason]

Odd number of pyros

[west perch]

Greetings

[sly ice]

D Kayoko is James Bond

[snow portal]

Same

[sly ice]

How did you pull that off?

[snow portal]

MS Paint

[sly ice]

very good

[frail glen]

you can see the white paint

if you look close enough

[old rose]

didn't select the background color for paintbrush

[worthy charm]

[atomic arrow]

forced 2 pay

[untold tusk]

Is this considered as broke?

[atomic arrow]

average

[shrewd mirage]

Hello whales

[untold tusk]

59K a month after fes is considered average guess I note that then

[lilac solar]

[grim finch]

330k holy whel

[lilac solar]

and I spent all of it on ritsu pulls

[atomic arrow]

based

[grim finch]

holy ue100 ritsu

[untold tusk]

How good is CHare?
I am asking because I will skip the rerun

[atomic arrow]

pretty good

[west perch]

striker atk hyperbuffer

[grim finch]

if u intended to skip

why even ask

[lilac solar]

chare skipper

welcome back subvitals

[untold tusk]

I guess I wait next rerun then or selector
I am asking because I am skipping

59K not enough to be rolling camp rerun if only I got more pyroxenes

[frail glen]

[lilac solar]

gph raid again

[west perch]

dw I keep other notable beginner mistakes

guess who that is

[atomic arrow]

me 🙂

[lilac solar]

peav

[west perch]

yeah the 6 alts thing gives it away

[atomic arrow]

but i didn't use ligma 2
not malding/balding
no alts

[west perch]

we can share beginner mistakes
I used eligma for node 3 crafting about 3 times.
sparked kazusa banner early on for missions and never needed her for any raid to this day.

[lilac solar]

i used to raise every student

[untold tusk]

I used to x6 refresh glad I stopped that

[lyric hatch]

I used ligma to buy mats

[west perch]

wao another eligma shop 2 user

[lilac solar]

bricc shop

[lyric hatch]

And raised everyone to lvl 65 when i was lvl 65

[lilac solar]

I once raised momoi basic to lv2

[lyric hatch]

Lol on day 2 of me playing ba i pulled for maid aris while only having enough for 180 pulls and didnt get her and had to spend 20$ to complete the spark cuz her banner was going away in 5 hours

[west perch]

that's... on her rerun?

[lyric hatch]

July 7th

[lilac solar]

A small price to pay for robodaughter

[lyric hatch]

That was right before fest too

Felt mad stupid looking back

[pastel mortar]

At least you didn't spend half a spark on archive banner

I did

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[lilac solar]

I saw that

[untold tusk]

Is fine you seen that
Was a not required message I do not even use my global account any more

[copper surge]

I can't show my pyros or Wheljin will say I am a dragon -_-

[sonic crater]

who are u even saving it for?

double spark fes and magical?

[odd geyser]

😭

[summer dew]

I would've pulled miyo too if i read earlier

[untold tusk]

I will only consider rolling Miyo in the rerun after saccing some banners

[stable tulip]

next week is just the Aoi battleship event right? so I can make full use of the 2x commissions without reservation right?

[torn thorn]

I’m farming normals….

[copper surge]

I enjoyed the 2nd Wildhunt group more than the 1st. The 1st has interesting designs but I prefer the 2nd group personality

I also think Miyo and her 2nd in command interactions to be funny.

[polar orbit]

yuh

[polar orbit]

1x normals farming ssg

[copper surge]

so we have a honest-to-good dead week?

[polar orbit]

correct

even a GA to top it off for ultimate lazy

[copper surge]

I guess it's hard mode+ for me

[polar orbit]

and 3 easy skip banners

[copper surge]

I am, against all odds, pulling tomorrow

So I'll have flex archive all to myself

[stable tulip]

it's only easy because the people that want them can skip until after fest

[lilac solar]

I'm gonna try to get Shunny and Arisu next week

[stable tulip]

I've been farming the wrong unit I was supposed to get Serina to ue30

[polar orbit]

have i unbricked myself from not farming hard nodes for the first 6-8 months?

[snow portal]

No

[polar orbit]

dont be mean to me

[snow portal]

I'm not

[polar orbit]

:c

[stable tulip]

still bricked

[snow portal]

UE30 on Iori is still brick

[polar orbit]

how much for unbrick

[copper surge]

the bad news is you want Ue40, but being a farmable y ou have no excuse to not make her Ue60

On good news, she not been meta for a while

[frail glen]

1.5k eligma

[stable tulip]

4*

[copper surge]

Just slow farm her

[polar orbit]

i farm both her nodes during 2x for big stonks

[untold tusk]

I am not farming Iori anymore am I bricks now?

[snow portal]

You've always been brick so don't worry about it

[stable tulip]

I may not be angry with her anymore, but why farm Iori?

[loud knoll]

already missed her pvp season, do whatever

[frail glen]

because she is cheap ex

high damage

[untold tusk]

I am not and never will be bricks!

[polar orbit]

she has 2 nodes and is still a top yellow dps in some regards

so it's kinda free

[frail glen]

also

[stable tulip]

when you have so many students to farm, the choice is hard

[polar orbit]

i actually don't think i can buy that 5 star yet, i might need those million creds for something soon

[pastel mortar]

Do you get her to ue40 an stop?

[polar orbit]

[polar orbit]

nah farmable = ue60

[copper surge]

My Iori went all way to Ue60

[polar orbit]

like it won't be any time soon, but if you keep farming her long enough you'll get there

2 nodes helps a lot

[copper surge]

Now working on Hifumi ue60 for tha juicy Peroro dps (jk)

[untold tusk]

I do not like Iori therefore am not going to farm Iori
Is a very easy decision for one such as I

[loud knoll]

Something something shun will target her if you build too much (didnt happen to mine ue60 )

[proven dove]

Ue40 at least

[stable tulip]

I got Iori and Hinata to 4* and that feels good enough when people tell me I also need Hibiki and my 4 missing students

[polar orbit]

that's like... a long time from now

[lilac solar]

I've gotten up to r130 with a 4* iori

[polar orbit]

she's not on my faily farm list

[snow portal]

If free, always UE. Thems the rule

[copper surge]

we have so many hard x2... where do you even use ytour energy

I am raising OG Shiroko and OG Hifumi because I already Ue60 everything else

[proven dove]

I stopped at ue50 aru hibiki iori to focus on other farmables, but I'll go back to them eventually for ue60

[untold tusk]

I will not follow the rules I slacc farmables instead

[stable tulip]

oh when hard is 2x rewards I do it ngl, but on regular and with events? 2 nodes max

[copper surge]

I have a self rule of always farming at least 1 hard mode a day

been Hinata now

[frail glen]

I wonder

[proven dove]

She'll get there easily when she's on you daily farm. But yeah prioritize your priorities :3 (funny sentence)

[torn thorn]

Who doesn’t farm the daily hard mode…

[brave totem]

how many gifts to b50 a student?

[torn thorn]

🧱

[polar orbit]

dunno when she'll get to daily farm though...

[frail glen]

nvm hard node is worth it i htink

[polar orbit]

do you daily farm iori

[loud knoll]

"already Ue60 everything else" might be the reason

[frail glen]

I went full AP on S arius event

[torn thorn]

why would I farm daily iori…

[frail glen]

I didn't farm daily hard node

[pastel mortar]

what's your daily farm like?

[polar orbit]

that's what we were talking about

[torn thorn]

I farm daily hinata

And before hinata I was farming hibiki

[polar orbit]

hibiki, aru, misaki

[copper surge]

sometimes I farm Hinata and Misaki

[torn thorn]

Once I get hibiki I’ll prob switch to idk

I mean hint

[untold tusk]

Always bricks this, bricks that................
I do not care at all!

[stable tulip]

I'm changing targets to Serina in hopes that I can tackle Heiro...on the second rerun before fest

[untold tusk]

That is my daily farm

[torn thorn]

well, I’ll switch to Cherino once her hard drops

[copper surge]

if you dont care about gameplay, why hang around on the gameplay channel? Attention?

[proven dove]

I farmed her daily to use her in this season from the get go :3

Same with hibiki to have her ue40 ready in first geburah ta

[torn thorn]

Implying I don’t alr have them ue50…

[frail glen]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-tycoon-kamen-rider-tycoon-bujin-sword-kamen-rider-geats-kamen-rider-kamen-rider-geats-ix-gif-3233110407632262536

I will never be bricked

[proven dove]

I'm now farming daily hinata izuna hifumi (1 node)

[copper surge]

"I'll purposely play in a non-optimal way and I'll make sure to tell everybody about it on the channel dedicated about optimizing your gameplay"

[torn thorn]

3 nodes….

[frail glen]

sounds like a fire idea

I am in

[stable tulip]

sold

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ogvhs-gif-18199871

[proven dove]

Daily yeah (besides 2x hards ofc)

During events and others I still farm them daily

I'll stop hifumi at ue40 and izuna at ue50

[untold tusk]

I leave then if I am not wanted here

[copper surge]

People who purposely bricc their accounts are not even novel here. Every year we got another one.

[lilac solar]

maybe I should do daily hard farm again

I've been slaccing

[loud knoll]

Is it stated anywhere that channel is dedicated to optimizing gameplay?
Any random yap can qualify as discussion

[polar orbit]

you should at least do 2 nodes

well...

[proven dove]

No don't leave, some people just don't get you much :p they'll get used to you

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[lilac solar]

why is "farm" legal but " farm" illegal

wtf censors

[untold tusk]

I am not even bricks they who say I am are wrong!

[eternal thorn]

[polar orbit]

wth

[lilac solar]

billions must farm hards daily

[proven dove]

GG +.+ I want to farm her eventually x_x she's staying 3* for now

[copper surge]

it's not stated but it's implied, but catching up implied stuff demand cognition and I probably asking for too much.

My bad.

[lilac solar]

should I do JFD

[proven dove]

Still casuals and newbies and most people are welcomed here :3 let them be~

[proven dove]

Yes

[frail glen]

JFD
just frustrating deals

[polar orbit]

no just skip

dont need coins

[untold tusk]

Why am I bricks though?
Please do explain so that I can comprehend better

[pastel mortar]

Aside the usual hard nodes I usually end up farming random nodes during x2 like haruka/hina/mari/tsubo/serina/hoshino.
Actually wonder if farming 1* and 2*s is not worth it since you get them from gacha.

[polar orbit]

i would only farm 3 stars

[frail glen]

you are "bricked" because you don't play exactly the way they want you to play

[polar orbit]

unless theres something very specific you need

[frail glen]

which is subjective to begin with

[untold tusk]

?
I just play how I want to

[frail glen]

exactly

[dim frigate]

holy BASED

[proven dove]

You're not playing in an optimal way gameplay wise, and that's fine :3

[copper surge]

Oh no no no no, you are perfectly fine the way you are. 👍

[torn thorn]

[snow portal]

Pinned message pretty much
#💬gameplay-discussion message

[proven dove]

Even most try hards here in gameplay do have questionable takes or do unoptimal stuff sometimes ( 🐳 )

[tender eagle]

[loud knoll]

Half of the channel should be banned for daily violating this one

[pastel mortar]

Bruh raidless gpd becomes story spoilers and bagen 2

[lilac solar]

real

we're bagen but good

[west perch]

part of daily reset rush so

[stable tulip]

the sheer insanity when maintenance is on

[eternal thorn]

[proven dove]

And anime reviews

[dim frigate]

lol the anime corner was fun

[frail glen]

also bunny reviews (not complaining)

[polar orbit]

any bunny pj koyuki skippers in chat ✋

[untold tusk]

I

[lyric hatch]

Depends

[dim frigate]

i assume literally no one on JP has any gems left

[snow portal]

Depends on the build

[torn thorn]

This is the real bricc

[lyric hatch]

I wanna see her kit first

[torn thorn]

🧱

[untold tusk]

I have 59K

[torn thorn]

Idc if she is Kirara level kit

[dim frigate]

🧎

[loud knoll]

gems are always 2 clicks away for certain f2ps 🐳

[copper surge]

something big happened in JP?

[frail glen]

I am sorry, PJ koyuki is a human necessity\

[stable tulip]

is she limited?

[torn thorn]

even though she won’t be because the devs know how loved koyuki is

[untold tusk]

I just sacced

[torn thorn]

[simple ravine]

pj koyuki will break the game🐉🐉

[loud knoll]

no

[torn thorn]

Pj koyuki will break my ||REDACTED||

pyon pyon

[stable tulip]

pre and post fest is so stacked idk if I'll be able to grab her

[snow portal]

You'll go broke trying

[stable tulip]

I'm still waiting on the verdict on how broken byuzu is

[untold tusk]

Could always sacc most of the banners

[frail glen]

please make PJ koyuki a special slot
with highest ex damage and damage multiplier
but randomly applied to one student

it would be so epic and funny

[stable tulip]

that would make so many people mald it'd be so funny

[torn thorn]

Byuzu skip

[untold tusk]

Geburah unit PKoyuki

[frail glen]

also makes o that her ex only would work when no one retreats
like S Nagisa

[torn thorn]

she’s just dedicated support for baris

[frail glen]

it would be so funny and epic

[ripe mason]

randomly changing all allies attack and defense type would be fun

[torn thorn]

Not really a high priority roll of u alr have like

The entire back catalog of buffers

[dim frigate]

i just hope that all the pajama alts have a special end screen together

[frail glen]

nah then nobody would run her
givingher highest ex damage and damage multiplier will force score chasers to run her
even more fun

[snow portal]

Personally I don't like when they do that. Especially when the units don't function together in a typical raid scenario

[frail glen]

https://tenor.com/view/noa-pajamas-blue-archive-koyuki-cat-throwing-a-brick-gif-12769487064865488482

[stable tulip]

but vr and 3x skill reduction

[frail glen]

it would just be them all beating up koyuki though

[untold tusk]

PMillennium event any items from that shop worth purchasing?

[stable tulip]

couldn't you use byuzu on smika?

[loud knoll]

x3 is like bad without redraw

[lyric hatch]

Watch them make pj koyuki another pointless st blue dps everyone recommends skipping unless youre doing luna

[stable tulip]

my question with smika still stands

and if that's so why do people run Ui

[untold tusk]

PKoyuki confirmed to be special slot I had thought?

[loud knoll]

should be good for smika yes

[lilac solar]

I did jfd guys

[pallid inlet]

Nothing has been confirmed

[pastel mortar]

Maki elephs

[polar orbit]

hell yeah

[pallid inlet]

Hell yeah

ue60 maki

[untold tusk]

1200 pyroxenes buy first then I am guessing?

[polar orbit]

mine is already ue60

[pallid inlet]

Is there a need for it then

[pastel mortar]

Usually go for pyros first yeah

[polar orbit]

ue70 prep

[untold tusk]

I could buy that then

[polar orbit]

i might have to cut rabu farming to buy trinity mats

i'm poor

[pallid inlet]

Ue30 rabu free even without refreshing?

[polar orbit]

i believe so

but 3x4x is human rights

[pallid inlet]

Won’t do it

[frail glen]

rabu is worth the 6x4x

have you seen those chicks

in the l2d

[untold tusk]

Are any Millennium students aoe I could not think of any earlier

[pastel mortar]

Justin planner added gifts but it's only for bond gears it seems

[polar orbit]

you should always 3x4x welfares. The pyro you spend now is worth it compared to the expert permits you spend later

[frail glen]

Koyuki

[polar orbit]

kotama

[loud knoll]

hibiki

[frail glen]

Aris is actually also aoe

[polar orbit]

maid yuzu

[frail glen]

Rei

[polar orbit]

kei

[loud knoll]

I like that main one was mentioned first

[pallid inlet]

How many refreshes would I need to get ue40 rabu then

[polar orbit]

s.eimi

[untold tusk]

Maid Yuzu as aoe I remember now

I forgot that

[loud knoll]

s.eimi doesnt aoe

[past spruce]

C.Kotori is aoe

Hare

C.Hibiki

[polar orbit]

aoe reposition + aspd

[pallid inlet]

If so then tyuuka

[polar orbit]

correct

[past spruce]

If you count aoe repo then there's Kotori too

[polar orbit]

see there's a ton

[snow portal]

Hiniature saves the day once again for JFD

[loud knoll]

if it has no targeting circle/cone/whatever its not aoe

[untold tusk]

I want a Millennium student aoe damage for Millennium bounty clear

[past spruce]

C.Kotori is your best option for AOE tbh

If you are doing bounty for the bonus

[loud knoll]

you know that student doesnt need to be millenium, right?

bonus applied to everyone

[untold tusk]

I attempted with other aoe and kept time not quick enough for 3 star clear

[dim frigate]

oh man the bounty shop stinks rn

[loud knoll]

you had maximum bonus?

[untold tusk]

I remember was bonus 200 or 250

[lilac solar]

phaistos though

[snow portal]

The creatures have arrived

[atomic arrow]

-#

[untold tusk]

I almost unlocked been farming 3 months now

[frail glen]

I think I forced with b yuzu

was kinda not worth it

[untold tusk]

Skill EX 3 T6 slot 1 gear for Hibiki enough yes?

I still am farming Aru

[snow portal]

Never stop

[untold tusk]

You used that invest for bounty stage 10?

[snow portal]

Soon™

[untold tusk]

I guess I attempt again when unlock Hibiki was she a 3 cost skill EX?

I guess is easy enough to cycle skills

I did not really know what rerolling was when first start so I did not get Hibiki from tutorial rolls

[loud knoll]

you aware than unbuilt hibiki will do little or no damage, just like any other dps?

[untold tusk]

Guess perhaps is not possible for 3 star clear
I guess I wait until after my next banner to attempt again(?)

[loud knoll]

you should try to include low cost units to spam your main aoe (bk.aris?) more

[untold tusk]

MKArisu not really the best aoe I just could not think of any other options that I currently have

M/7/M/M T10 all gears UE50

I perhaps was pressing charge shot too much was that why I was not clearing in 150 seconds or less?

I did not slot Kisaki
I could do that then

[copper surge]

I find Aoba so very different from Miyu

[west perch]

if you can 1-shot without charging or just 1x charge then it should be faster

[frail glen]

Aoba is basically Miyu with intrusive thoughts

[copper surge]

When a student is stuck in the libmo between Ue40 and Ue50 and I have no plans of upgrading her

[snow portal]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QeWW5o5s46A

[copper surge]

for me, the students similar to Miyu are Yuzu and Hyiori

[snow portal]

Epic

[west perch]

ready for this to be some luna hiero breakpoint

[frail glen]

Yuzu understandable
but I feel like Hiyori is in another category of her own

[snow portal]

Sasuga

[copper surge]

Guys, after 2 years, its finally done
(dont do it, its not worth it)

Ue50 NyHaruna (lol)

[west perch]

wait damn, I'm only 10 below you

[snow portal]

Already did

[ripe mason]

I've been using ue30 nyharuna this pvp season and it's good enough

[snow portal]

Those old pvp season where I blew people up with NY.Haruna were great

[copper surge]

Nice Marina you have here, it would be a pity if she cooked some bad food

[woven sigil]

miss

[odd geyser]

how can i compete

[copper surge]

Did not miss, but I lose because Iori EX to the back of th emap and took so long for me to get there my Terror died 😂

[woven sigil]

[copper surge]

This is what a winning pvp comp looks like, boring f2p tanks (and Marina)

[loud knoll]

Who kills hoshi when no iori? Haruna?

[proven dove]

I've finished reading v6c1, it made me tear up a few times. It was really great.

I'll wait for chapter 3 release before reading the rest, hopefully it'll be as good as this

[snow portal]

I still need to read both wildhunt events

[copper surge]

Terror can kill Hoshino, it just takes time. If its a Hoshi vs Terror tho, Hoshino usually wins

[proven dove]

How can y'all have the permits to farm nyharuna x_x

[copper surge]

2 years of expert permit farm

[proven dove]

Do you farm any fes ?

[copper surge]

Haruna was the student that made me give up on Ue50 with expert tickets. It takes too long.

[odd geyser]

atm, I'm only farming the supports and smika

I cutoff dps fes at UE50

[snow portal]

Just be whel and ligma like me! I gave ligma to S.Ayane since I was starting from 1*

[proven dove]

Right, I remembered too that you oldies don't need to farm any welfare

[odd geyser]

we farm nonomi

[copper surge]

When expert was released, I used to raise all fest with tickets
Once we got too many students, I stopped doing this because we can get spooks of fest, plus I can always spark a fest for the +100 eleph bonus during fest assuming I have both new fes pulled already
But now old-ass fest students are removed from the pool so I am BACK to ue60 with permits, but only for retired students (Wakamo, Mika)

[odd geyser]

probably my most questionable expert permit farm ngl

[loud knoll]

So idea is to kill everyone else and gang up on hoshi?

[copper surge]

Yeah. If they have 2 yellow tanks I use SAyane though.

[proven dove]

Right now I'm farming monthly sayane / 5 fes / 2 limited

[woven sigil]

probably my most questionable rate-up pull and permit farm

[odd geyser]

im done with those two

[snow portal]

Nin-nin was solid for a good while, now she's lunatic fodder

[copper surge]

By one side, if we speaking numbers, I think the bonus we get turning Mika Ue50 into Ue60 is marginal.

On the other side, yellow is so weak DPS wise I dont think I can afford not upgrading Mika to the max

[woven sigil]

I doubt that with bAris she's even needed

[odd geyser]

she wasn't 'fodder' for that first goz

[loud knoll]

must be nice to have built sayane
thought we don't have such things in our bracket, there is like 1 ny.haruna in top 100

[copper surge]

Wakamo is diff because she has +atk passive, and the extra atk from ue60 double dips

[odd geyser]

idk what outdoor goz will look like

[old rose]

like every student is luna fodder

[copper surge]

For 3 or 4 months, I was pumping 6 tickets on her.

[snow portal]

We shall see I suppose

[west perch]

my most questionable permit farm

[copper surge]

I made Seia ue40 instantly., I did not want to deal with that

[odd geyser]

I'm sad I couldn't discount her any but it is what it is

[woven sigil]

Aris and wakamo+terroko with double tYuukas

[odd geyser]

kuroko team wants SIzuna

[proven dove]

I farmed those when I was a casual (all still 3* beside nyharuna 4* due to ligma) then dropped them when I became more serious with the game

[woven sigil]

Fixed goz repos is too easy

[odd geyser]

deal with what, 3* is fine for tor

[west perch]

same. I'm just getting her to ue60 in 2.5 years

[proven dove]

I'm farming her monthly (until I get her)

[old rose]

seia dps

[woven sigil]

I still farm Nonomi till UE40

[odd geyser]

You minimize kuroko's AA downtime with SIzuna

[west perch]

I ain't rich enough in ligma to ue60 seia sseia

[copper surge]

I am a patient player, but I think 2 years for Ue60 is too much. I'd rather just raise C Hbiki for funzies than making anyone non-fest Ue60

[woven sigil]

Whatever

[odd geyser]

who else are you gonna give kuroko

[woven sigil]

Stack the wakamo's mark and keep going

[woven sigil]

Wakamo Terroko NYK and tYuuka

[odd geyser]

oh, you're saying kuroko is subdps

[woven sigil]

LMAO

[west perch]

is it still wakamo kuroko after ritsu?

[woven sigil]

HE GOT IT

[loud knoll]

I have ue40 nonomi somehow. Actually even two

[copper surge]

I am just glad I finished my Ue50 Nonomi farm

[odd geyser]

she's just a body to eat the bomb instead of wakamo

[snow portal]

These darn rich girls ask for too much UE

[copper surge]

The rich gets richer

[woven sigil]

My ogMika is still UE50

[copper surge]

Now NYHaruna graduated I may raise Mika to Ue60, but only because I am halfway there

[woven sigil]

[odd geyser]

real question for outdoor goz: Wakamo or SMika

[woven sigil]

Outdoor goz right after Indoor hod rerun

[odd geyser]

outdoor goz is way more common than indoor hod plz

[woven sigil]

The last outdoor goz was like a year ago

GA Yellow tmt

[west perch]

oh hey I rmbr that one

[woven sigil]

I couldn't do tmt

3 mil left

tYuukaless gaming

[odd geyser]

there's been 3 outdoor goz (TA + GA)

indoor hod is a myth meanwhile

[copper surge]

We have an indoor HOD at least, unlike Geb and Greg who are mono mood

[west perch]

I gave up on using tyuuka in p1

seimi ftw

[copper surge]

@odd geyser Do you like SHina ?

[odd geyser]

I'm indifferent to her as a character

[copper surge]

This is so far from Ue60.....

[odd geyser]

I hate red speedruns b/c of her

[copper surge]

130 tickets, this is rouhgly 1 year

I guess its fine

[proven dove]

I love shina (hina in general) but her event was mid unfortunately

[odd geyser]

I'm not even trying lmao

[copper surge]

Or maybe just... ligma it?

[ripe mason]

no sumire?

[sleek flicker]

Hmm, Should be good for Red Shiro Kuro for now

[copper surge]

maybe better than using tickets

Same with Wakamo

[loud knoll]

I believe people run c.hare in place of yuuka and just bruteforce

[west perch]

no sroko

also I didn't know of that variant

[odd geyser]

[west perch]

I'm p sure I didn't look up hw so

[woven sigil]

I had no sUi either

Her rerun was later

[west perch]

I had to use repos

[ripe mason]

didn't have daru, can't compete smh

[sleek flicker]

[west perch]

df, you skipped daru debut?

damn

[odd geyser]

I did whatever for first yellow goz

[copper surge]

I am proud of this one

[ripe mason]

ue sui whel

[odd geyser]

‼️💢

[west perch]

I am glad I don't have to think about UE sui for permits

[woven sigil]

Kaijin

[west perch]

[odd geyser]

bunker said SUi

[woven sigil]

🦖

[lilac solar]

bunker is p2w

[loud knoll]

like thats typical 1 pan setup

[copper surge]

wait, why Ue Sui?

[odd geyser]

b/c shinata is homeless

[woven sigil]

Indeed

[copper surge]

I am slowly raising SHinata, but I doubt Ill ever use her. C Hbiki I can at least meme on Kaiten

S Hinata, she is Megu with better PR

[woven sigil]

sHinata is precious everywhere except for gameplay

I got her l2d almost immediately

And I still don't have ogHinata

[loud knoll]

Can you use s.hinata in pvp? Like she ignores def and all that

[west perch]

6 cost

[mellow roost]

Any EU fellas with a UE40+ bNatsu?

[woven sigil]

She was used S8 by someone

[copper surge]

Why dont we use SHinata on Greg again?

[west perch]

someone's doing frr on the very last day

[ripe mason]

cause he dead

[woven sigil]

Check for autoaccept

I have no idea if he still has it

[copper surge]

Maybe low dmg

[quartz remnant]

She was used in season 8, unpopular choice tho

[loud knoll]

Def penetration being not needed and without it numbers lower than minori?

[west perch]

she's only slightly better than mash in damage.

6 vs 3 cost btw

[loud knoll]

Geburah s.Hinata

[west perch]

her damage being over a lengthy period of time gives her the same awkwardness of pillar break role as nagisa

and we already barely use nagisa as pillar break

[loud knoll]

I guess she can't kill eimi and likes next season then?

[quartz remnant]

No, next season has 5x hp

If she can't one shot eimi will heal back up

You use toki for that

[charred crystal]

cries in tokilet

[quartz remnant]

It's fine if you don't have toki, it's hard to use her anyway becuz of shanako

[charred crystal]

Oh true

Eats 2x dmg n dejj

[quartz remnant]

Also you can do that with aaris too but that's 4 months later

[charred crystal]

Yea

She strong enough to eat through red armor ig

[true shale]

She does get used by the rare players who have her, but she's not an efficient investment for that raid alone.
Combine that with a difficulty in fielding enough debuffers/healers to see enough teams that would use her.

I think she would appear at team 4/5 on very early solutions for Greg Luna, for example.

[quartz remnant]

Won't happen next rerun considering smiaski is able to deal over 10 billion
And you can finish the remaining health with dhina
SHinata is a very very desperate choice and we have better specials to clean up like hibiki, myuzu

[mellow roost]

thanks

[marble gust]

i mean killing eimi aint rly ur final goal amymore

[quartz remnant]

You don't need to kill eimi to win yea
Just get rid of everyone else, especially shanako

Saki is very good for that next season

[true shale]

However, we get better mileage on team 3+ from pursuing a strategy that distributes our debuffing power across more teams, rather than concentrating them all on one more team.
That's a strategy that leans into either cheap dps that can work around a bulky debuffing rotation (so not S.Hinata), or role compression of dps + debuffers (also not S.Hinata).

[true shale]

[marble gust]

surely my 3* minori does enough

[woven sigil]

ur welcome

[true shale]

I think it's ironic that def penetration could be impactful in isolation, yet in practice its the most common debuff in our roster, so it ends up redundant.

[obsidian heath]

def pen ain't redundant

shinata is

[true shale]

In a realistic Greg team, I see it as redundant.

[obsidian heath]

greg isn't a high def boss

you mostly bring def down to advance the debuff counter

strange case

[true shale]

It's actually unusual to build a full debuff setup without any defence debuffs.

[true shale]

Yeah, this is the rationale for my opinion.

The defence stat in isolation is high enough to be a consideration.

We just debuff it into the floor every time.

For Greg, I think we would have benefitted more from another 3+ debuff striker than from S.Misaki's kit.
It's still a welcome addition though.

[quartz remnant]

Too bad that only mina is 3 cost

[candid gust]

30.2% atk down is all I want

[true shale]

3 cost for 50 sec duration is a great deal!

[candid gust]

Tfw you only need atk down and other 2 are bonus

[true shale]

If the other 2 debuffs were any good in other places, she might be overpowered.

[candid gust]

Atk down is by default

[candid gust]

Do you know the place that I am thinking of?

[true shale]

Without more context, not specifically? Pray tell.

[candid gust]

It's PvP.

Literally it.

Atk down, evasion down, accuracy down.

But I don't think she would hit dps.

Wish she did that.

[true shale]

Oh, I see. I think I've heard that considered before, but it's a bit hard to justify when tied to her EX, don't you think?

[candid gust]

Yes that's why I wish she could auto aim for EX to dps.

[true shale]

If her EX skill is activated, it's preferable to just have it kill.

[candid gust]

Eh, she's a support anyway.

Can't expect the kill.

[quartz remnant]

Supports are so useless in pvp thanks to the 2 fest student making every match less than 30s

[candid gust]

Life is suzushii desune

[true shale]

Yes, dedicated supports seldom have place in PvP, thanks to the autoplay.

[west perch]

wao, really? this is our next one?

[true shale]

Direct impacts are more forceful, if it's an EX skill.

[woeful gull]

What is it?

[candid gust]

Oh my fucking god

[true shale]

Maybe if she debuffed on basic or subskill, there could be some use.

[candid gust]

Let's go!

[quartz remnant]

And when you try to fix that, you get long and boring matches seeing everyone missing their shot most of the time

[candid gust]

Oh wait I don't have SMika

[stable tulip]

if I'm reading it correctly, can't you do smika for 2 of the 3?

[candid gust]

[candid gust]

Have fun with S10 my man!

[quartz remnant]

You are supposed to do that

[stable tulip]

...who would the third dps be?

[true shale]

I haven't seen any homework, is it hard?

[west perch]

i see you're all not thinking right

it's shanako

[past spruce]

No

[stable tulip]

welp I'm screwed then 🥀

[candid gust]

What is after shanako tho

Blue and yellow dps?

[past spruce]

Momiji is used there

[candid gust]

[past spruce]

Smh

[west perch]

oh wow the solutions are crazy

[candid gust]

it's jfd

[old rose]

luna krkg prep jfd

[candid gust]

you can do anything

[past spruce]

Momiji is pretty good there

[true shale]

It does appear that they want us to stagger our kills in some manner.

[west perch]

i was wrong, it's momiji

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O3LF8PDxMs

borrow momiji

[true shale]

I don't know if you'd front-load or back-load the AoE though.

[stable tulip]

what

[candid gust]

Uhhh it's time to build Momiji

[west perch]

it's because momiji is 1-hit

shanako multi-hit is bad

[past spruce]

Should be doable to me but I don't have Shupos so I need to use s.mika on 3rd team I think

[candid gust]

I could see what happened in that team 1

[stable tulip]

but but smika

[atomic arrow]

wowee

[quartz remnant]

I didn't raise marina for s9 yet I still can stay in top 4
Everything else is built but s10 gonna need me to investment a lot more if the bracket gets worse, I'll try to not spend ligmas tho
My astuko is still 3 star and bneru 4 star only

[past spruce]

I already have Momiji built for for Kurokage last time

[candid gust]

Same, I get top 1 very frequently

[stable tulip]

oh

[untold tusk]

I am wondering whether to throw GA ticket on UAsuna or Seia since after giving more thought I feel they both might be useful for my current roster

[stable tulip]

oh momiji just-

[candid gust]

Atsuko huh

Let's use Tsubaki

Atsuko is 2nd best option

Istg tsubaki is so annoying

[past spruce]

Not using M.Reisa?

[stable tulip]

guess I can build momiji again

[candid gust]

How to hurt your ears™

[quartz remnant]

She's the only tank that heals tho, don't know how important she'll be
But at least she has other uses unlike marina

[true shale]

Okay, backload AoE

[past spruce]

Also couldn't you just use B.Natsu?

[west perch]

damn that's cheap

[candid gust]

Yeah but I just want to say she's 2nd best option after Tsubaki

[candid gust]

no

easy to die

[quartz remnant]

She'll just die after 1 shanako ex

[candid gust]

she barely has evasion

[true shale]

What's your current roster? Are you trying to build for a specific raid?

[candid gust]

it's natsu

[past spruce]

You have her built iirc

[proven dove]

Yes throw it on seia

[candid gust]

Me?

[past spruce]

I am only missing the gears and the UE

Should be doable

Since she is close to ue30 for me

[true shale]

I think Seia would be used in more places overall, whilst U.Asuna is trickier to replace in her specific niche.

[quartz remnant]

Seia def

You don't need uasuna if you don't plan to do geb or greg

[candid gust]

No Rio

[untold tusk]

I am uncertain who is more useful I think perhaps having second special buffer sounds good

[stable tulip]

why does the AI never use DHina's ex properly?

[copper crescent]

bc her ex seems op

[quartz remnant]

Is this your clip
If yes that's a funny team ur using

[untold tusk]

I feel Seia and UAsuna are both similar in that they do not get required for anything in particular

[true shale]

There isn’t an alternative to U.Asuna yet, but special buffers are only used in specific places.
Be sure that you can cover the gap in the cost-support role that would be left behind by Seia if you’re not going to pull her.

[quartz remnant]

(You can't)

[true shale]

The stance activation and then each subsequent shot are treated as individual skill cards that redraw each other.

[untold tusk]

I just feel that an easier Insane Geburah would be good since only having IWappi buff might not be enough

[true shale]

So the Autoplay considers the cast in queue to be completed and then moves its attention on to the next slot.

[stable tulip]

that's actually filthy

[west perch]

ok wao damn

didn't think that aris hina team would make it to 80k

[copper crescent]

wtf

[true shale]

In this clip, the 0-cost D.Hina EX in slot C will be cast after going through A -> B again (her EX stance often expires though)

[stable tulip]

wait if that's how it works is the only reason toki is good next season because her redraw doesn't have a time limit on use?

[copper crescent]

I mean... she'd just be another student with a beam ex skill

[stable tulip]

I mean compared to killing eimi with some other single target dps

[true shale]

Hmm… I don’t know enough to answer that. I suspect that Toki’s AA probably factors in too.

[copper crescent]

yeah next season is hp game

[true shale]

Can Eimi be killed by a single EX cast of some other burst dmg dps?

[stable tulip]

no idea I'm simply amazed that dhina is genuinely useless in pvp

[true shale]

She survives an Aru double crit, right? Probably L.Shun too?

[true shale]

We primarily use her for her unusual pathing and ranging.

[copper crescent]

ooo

[true shale]

She can wall Shun EX too, on occasion.

[copper crescent]

bc she pauses to do her basic at the start

[true shale]

Yes, she has a different animation length than Shun, also.

[untold tusk]

I already have Rio as cost down so I feel rolling Seia might be a redundant choice

[polar orbit]

Rio is not really cost down

She's still a net -1 cost

[true shale]

To replace Seia’s utility, you are looking for Ui or NY.Fuuka

[old rose]

byuzu... idk

[copper crescent]

idk rio is technically cost down

bc she saves u the cost of having to recycle

[old rose]

not exactly how i would define cost down

[polar orbit]

Cost refund of sorts, like imari and kokona

[untold tusk]

I am skipping NYFuuka I have yet to spook Ui

[copper crescent]

rio is in her own category

[true shale]

You should probably choose Seia over U.Asuna in that case.

[untold tusk]

Though guess I am skipping Seia as well if not get in 10 with ticket from GA

[polar orbit]

Whatever you wanna do

[true shale]

Seia/Ui/NY.Fuuka’s cost support is %-based. It scales with efficiency proportional to the price of the EX skill.

[true shale]

Unfortunate, but we can’t afford everything, sadly.

Seia’s cute though, imo

[lyric hatch]

Playing without a cost down unit is very annoying

[polar orbit]

If she wants to do it you just gotta let her

[lyric hatch]

Yea you right

[untold tusk]

I like Seia though am already rolling 8 more students this year
If only I could whale more................

[true shale]

[untold tusk]

It is what it is
I can only afford monthlies and that is not enough for adding an extra banner

[true shale]

They were really mean to release Koyuki alt so close after fest!

[untold tusk]

I am skipping
Though yes I want to get PKoyuki spook some time

[pastel mortar]

newbie need help
This is enough for srkr right?

[true shale]

I like Koyuki. I want to pull.

[true shale]

Which Srkr? Is it Torment?

[pastel mortar]

yeah tor

[lyric hatch]

For tor? No

You need at least ue40 max gear and skills

Possibly lb as well

This is if you wanna block both balls

[west perch]

it is

[pastel mortar]

Am I having something wrong or does 2nd ball do more dmg?

[polar orbit]

If you have the speedrun comp, you don't bounce balls anymore

[west perch]

it's enough

[polar orbit]

You just use bosh for pinball

[true shale]

It looks fine to me. Am I forgetting something?

[pastel mortar]

not speedrun

[true shale]

2 x 48k = 96k

[west perch]

i was forced to ue30 boshi way back

and it was enough

[lyric hatch]

From my calculation when i was building my boshi it isnt

96k ue40 max skills and gears it leave your shield at around 95k hp

[pastel mortar]

More like cope I might need someone to try it before I ue boshi

[polar orbit]

Doesn't look that cope

I think you can do it

[true shale]

Schaledb is on the screen, it looks like there's enough.

[pastel mortar]

Ue40 dhina I'm borrowing rio

[polar orbit]

You're on your own with that one kid

[true shale]

Could we please see the whole screen so that we can check that there are no erroneous settings?

[polar orbit]

When in doubt, body throw first

[west perch]

non-UE specials?

wait, did you forget specials?

[pastel mortar]

Nothing else just these specials

[west perch]

bruh

[true shale]

If it was last season, we only had T9 gear as well

[west perch]

oh, you have ue60 b50 rio?

[lyric hatch]

Dudes borrowing

[true shale]

[west perch]

ic

[pastel mortar]

I have one from last binah

[true shale]

Dedicated Rio fan

[old rose]

somehow I feel like rio borrow can't be ideal

but you know ur roster better than i would ofc

[lyric hatch]

I mean let him try it out

I agree with you too

[pastel mortar]

I'm open to ideas

[true shale]

You do not have the "Exchange Plates" buff ticked, just to be sure?

[old rose]

what supports do you have besides snagi/sseia?

[true shale]

If not, then I'd assume that the numbers are correct.

[pastel mortar]

it's off

[pastel mortar]

daru kotama ako

[lyric hatch]

Also i just did the cal with his investment and specials its either barely enough or barely not enough

Its at around 95900-96100 or some shit like that

[pastel mortar]

If it came to it I might throw a hibiki haruka team and another team with skirino bounces and airi clean up

[west perch]

or just single bounce

[lyric hatch]

If you get your boshi bond up a little bit more it should be enough to block both balls

Or like lvl10 lb

[true shale]

It does look very close though, so if it fails, investing a little more isn't a bad call.

[pastel mortar]

Yeah I'll adjust accordingly

[true shale]

Your A.Hoshino's subskill isn't maxed?

That gives extra HP in the tank form

Wait, not the subskill

[pastel mortar]

enhanced no

[true shale]

Passive

Yeah

[pastel mortar]

Just 4

[true shale]

Upgrade that first before any star upgrades.

It should be enough.

[west perch]

& bond on boshi/hoshi

[true shale]

98 HP buffer should still be fine, but occasionally SchaleDB can have rounding errors...