💬gameplay-discussion

[stuck valley]

also Kei’s EX skill is crazy value

[marble gust]

[stuck valley]

2 cost for 25 sec

powercreep when

[marble gust]

nykayoko:

[frozen birch]

Maybe the next PvP season but other options exist and that’s just PvP. Idk if she works in Set cause her AoE isn’t big enough iirc

[stuck valley]

a

[west perch]

all frrs use her

[untold tusk]

NYKayoko spooked me at least twice on banners before fes

[stuck valley]

2 cost 40 sec

[west perch]

set chok tiph

[frozen birch]

Oh comfier than Hanako then for set?

[pure vessel]

it's a nice chunk of damage if you can actually fill up the accumulation tbh

[stuck valley]

No have nykayoko

its cooked

[marble gust]

skill issue

[loud knoll]

reisa used in f124 yes

[pure vessel]

a million raw damage isn't anything to scoff at

[west perch]

idk since I never used hanako

I've had ue40 oshig since set debut bruv

[frozen birch]

MReisa buffs attack as well right?

[west perch]

yep, and it's an enhanced aura

so it stacks with most of the other auras

[loud knoll]

its still tick every 4 seconds, not as braindead mode as bnatsu

[frozen birch]

Like SHosh albeit that’s more for red set

[frozen birch]

So is MReisa comfier than OShig then

[pure vessel]

kei also comes with a pretty fat atk aura, is aoe and is a lot less likely to kill herself

she creeped nyk if anything

[frozen birch]

Kei can be used on Peroro yeah

[pure vessel]

the extra duration on nyk is really mainly useful for getting uptime on two units but kei doesn't have to worry about that she's aoe

[snow portal]

In terms of healing? Nah, but the damage increase...
Kill them before they kill you

[frozen birch]

For Set? Dang

[snow portal]

It's vital for 100+

Not so much otherwise

[west perch]

there's a reason why most 124 clears are 3:30-4:00

genuinely just pump damage

I'll likely need to borrow a ue60 b50 kuroko

[frozen birch]

Anyways I’m guessing Kei can be used in Peroro due to her armor?

[west perch]

yep

the most sus usage of her would be goz p2

[hallow plank]

In a nutshell:
M. Reisa: Lower cost, shorter duration, occasional cost down, ATK buff from passive and sub skills, occasional Crit DMG buff from passive.
O. Shigure: Higher cost, longer duration, free massive heals from basic skill, Crit DMG sub skill.

[frozen birch]

Right.

[pure vessel]

if wakamo can survive goz p2 then kei can no problem

[snow portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irJd7MeI6xs

[frozen birch]

Oh, shoving a bunch of limited into one yeah

[pastel mortar]

Kei is green armor why wouldn't she survive goz?

[pure vessel]

literally what im saying

[snow portal]

Ayy lmao

[west perch]

oh I'm just saying her aura will be annoying to manage while moving around

especially during ATG spam

[pure vessel]

eh

in the last minute maybe? but like

goz has fixed pattern now

and really if you pair her with aaris you only need to place it before she does the beeeeeeeeeeeeaaam

[ripe mason]

if we could use skikyou, we can use kei

[copper crescent]

also Kei is cheaper

[simple zinc]

How many days will this last

This is game changer for me.

[snow portal]

A week and some change

[simple zinc]

[snow portal]

~10 days give or take

[simple zinc]

Need ro save up then....

They shouldve made it longer

[pure vessel]

eh

[frozen birch]

Two weeks to Magical girls in global yeah?

[pure vessel]

though it ran from the 25th to the 4th on jp

[copper crescent]

1 week

[pure vessel]

so exactly a week

not a week and change

[simple zinc]

Only 2 weeks?

[pure vessel]

tbh the wildhunt event ran

[snow portal]

Oh right, forgot the calendar switched to March

[simple zinc]

Im kinda cooked with like 9.5k smth pyro and 20 pulls

[pure vessel]

uncharacteristically long

[snow portal]

Yeah so 1 week long banner

[copper crescent]

yeah could've been 1 week miyo/fuyu and 1 week ritsu

[pure vessel]

when are you not cooked kazama

[simple zinc]

I havent fot such bad bonuses in a while

[pure vessel]

you'll just luccsacc out of it anyways

[west perch]

eh, less than that

[simple zinc]

No idea who these students are or what they do

[pure vessel]

they are SEXY

pull now.

[odd geyser]

[copper crescent]

they make me happy

[pure vessel]

they make binah happy

[simple zinc]

I havent read wildhunt story

[frozen birch]

One week more like gotcha

[odd geyser]

ive been telling you to pull mreisa for months

[snow portal]

The question is, who could you possibly want from this first set of characters?

[simple zinc]

Im currently gaining strength for lunatic

[simple zinc]

Shina siori sazusa schise and smash

[pure vessel]

who tf let nyaru onto the team bro

[snow portal]

🧀

[pure vessel]

she's not even good in chesed anymore

[simple zinc]

I dont own 6 of these limiteds

Nyaru great after BG

[pure vessel]

11 kills wowee

[snow portal]

She will be when lunatic comes!

Surely!

[pure vessel]

(wave size 20, with sweeper spawns)

[simple zinc]

Makoto was meta for cheesed for only like 10 mins. Sad for her,

[pure vessel]

she's

[simple zinc]

She has it even worse than nyaru

[snow portal]

She's still used for P1

[pure vessel]

still meta for p1 though??

[snow portal]

We used her just last chesed

[simple zinc]

Idk i didnt see anyone use her....

[pure vessel]

kazama just saying shit

[simple zinc]

Oh cool idk why everyone using double shanako

[marble gust]

shina

[pure vessel]

shina

[simple zinc]

[copper crescent]

11 kills for 6 cost

bruh

[pure vessel]

we've been telling you to stop looking at speedrun teams only for a solid like

2 years now haven't we

makoto is peak comfy for p1

definitely will be used when luna chesed comes along

[simple zinc]

Bruh when i say meta i mean speedrun.....like u can use bkaerin for peroro tor but nobody use her now

[pure vessel]

talking about how he wants to prepare for luna
oh but when I say meta I only look at speedruns

you haven't improved one bit

[feral jetty]

are you talking about the last chesed in global where yellow's highest difficulty was only insane perchance

[simple zinc]

I dont think about lunatic. Tor is still hardest difficulty

[simple zinc]

Yes

I remember that only

[feral jetty]

this is ragebait

[snow portal]

She was the most used assist by a wide margin for that last Chesed GA

[ripe mason]

too bad tor is free now

[simple zinc]

[simple zinc]

Have you tried tor geburah ?

[ripe mason]

luna geb is free, forget tor

[snow portal]

Ayy lmao

[feral jetty]

it's free if you have idols, stupid dogshit raid if you don't

[simple zinc]

Malded for days for this clear....

[ripe mason]

has sfoob and didn't go for luna smh

[pure vessel]

it's kazama

should stop expecting things from him honestly

[simple zinc]

Bruh why did you expect things in a discord server

[feral jetty]

any day now... they'll give her bond gear...

[stuck valley]

Lend me thy luck gpd

[pure vessel]

bg can't fix nyaru

[stuck valley]

and thy t rexes

[marble gust]

last yellow chesed tor was like makoto right

[quartz remnant]

Do you know you can get 5330+ with this unless you somehow don't have a built ukarin

[pure vessel]

her ex just sucks too much

[simple zinc]

Anywaus who is used next pvp season

[simple zinc]

Ukaein 4 star 1111 lvl 35

[quartz remnant]

Ue40 was almost free tho

[simple zinc]

Thats why i had to build sfoob to barely clear

[quartz remnant]

How unfortunate

[pure vessel]

???

you built sfub and then paired her with hibiki

you know hibiki can icebreak and damage at the same time right

[simple zinc]

Huh

[pure vessel]

the whole point of pairing sfub with ukarin is that ukarin has really heavy cost so having a cheaper icebreaker like sfub or mashiro helps your rotation a lot

[simple zinc]

https://youtu.be/HfpPJW9cY9E?si=D6wzs2ZBYZS1Kfne

Idk i did what he did

[pure vessel]

figured you just copied hw

[quartz remnant]

You don't pair sfoob with ukarin
He can just do bhosh repo at this point

[simple zinc]

Vuhn ch is pretty reliable

[simple zinc]

Yes this is true

[pure vessel]

I don't blame anyone for not doing bhosh repo, that shit sucks

[echo oar]

sfubuki still makes that team safer and gives it more damage

[simple zinc]

Whats next raid

[feral jetty]

i'm mainly thinking either

• basic skill that just acts as a better ex skill
• basic skill that uncaps her evil deeds and make her go all in on cost generation
• basic skill that somehow increases the cap of enemies she can hit if that's even possible

[quartz remnant]

Depends on hw but some are really easy

Other than malding crit that is

[feral jetty]

of course, something tells me that they'd just gonna make a stupid hare type bond gear and just increase the numbers without doing anything interesting, though

[simple zinc]

They need to update BG for old students

[quartz remnant]

Because ice pillars already did 50% of the job for you

[simple zinc]

[stuck valley]

I just hope my next pvp bracket not suck and let me enjoy rank 500 for once

[simple zinc]

What

Are you in whale bracket

[pure vessel]

tokimaxxing

[frozen birch]

Next PvP I shall unleash the full sleeper meta

[simple zinc]

Dont miss haruna birthday wishes

[stuck valley]

rank 600+ has lv90 ue40 iwak sweats

[simple zinc]

[stuck valley]

I cant beat em

im just fish

[marble gust]

rip i missed

[frozen birch]

Thankfully next season…is a little more accessible but

[frail glen]

hello chat

[frozen birch]

What tanks you got ready for next season

[frail glen]

[stuck valley]

marina and tsubaki

yuka

[marble gust]

im debating between tsubaki and atsuko

[frozen birch]

Alright tell me what you think of this Defense, to start off the season. Just your initial reaction

[stuck valley]

tank

[pure vessel]

full defense

[frail glen]

🐳

[pure vessel]

throw in a shanako to set up hibiki backline wipes

[stuck valley]

dps special 🦖

[frozen birch]

All the damage comes from specials

[loud knoll]

"they have saki with stars, i'd rather avoid "

[frozen birch]

That’s actually what Saki is doing

Saki basic goes off, SHanako and BHosh backlines get chipped enough for Hibiki

[simple zinc]

Maybe your comp is problem

[stuck valley]

what counters that lineup

its all tank

[frozen birch]

Yeah I heard that’s a good deterrent

[frozen birch]

If this was normal all tank, you could solo Yuuka it

[stuck valley]

I’m still early

[frozen birch]

But not this one

[simple zinc]

I use this f2p comp except troko all farmable it works great

[pure vessel]

gut feeling says you'd be lacking damage and drop tanks to boshino before you can clean them up but I haven't actually really studied next season enough to say anything concrete

[frozen birch]

Well BHosh wouldn’t hit Tsubaki to kill her easily

[stuck valley]

iwak kuroko

[frail glen]

iwak farmable?

[frozen birch]

Eimi also would generally facetank. Atsuko could die but only if grouped up

But again, low hit chance

[pure vessel]

boshi hurts red tanks quite a bit too doesn't she

[frozen birch]

Yeah, but Eimi generally survives due to raw health and self heal

[simple zinc]

Iwak....forgot about her she's perma spook her. Anyways iwak is now homeless next season pvp I've been told.

[pure vessel]

maybe not enough to kill eimi by herself but with enough cc and hibiki in the mix

[simple zinc]

The game of pvp has been changed forever.

[pure vessel]

plus she's gonna be hitting everyone with her basic

[frozen birch]

Also, Boshi dies very quick after a Saki basic. Saki basic shreds her since it’s Dot ofc

[stuck valley]

I should just sleep and worry about late game thing later

im still too early for anything

[pure vessel]

hm

I'm just excited to try out silly strats like yakumo yuzu

:^)

[simple zinc]

Still missing so many meta tanks.....

I spend all my resources building tanks

[frozen birch]

BHosh needs to be able to hit Tsubaki and Atsuko to begin with so I’m not worried about her

And unlike normal PvP seasons, BHosh landing a few hits will not chip them down

Not with 300% HP

300% HP and a 30% hit chance at best.

On Tsubaki and Atsuko anyways

[untold tusk]

What elephs to buy in jfd shop if have ONodoka and Eimi?
I buy other elephs and claim other students or is better buy Eimi elephs until UE40?

[pure vessel]

I would get enough shards to unlock everyone at least even if you don't claim them right away

always nice having the option

after that yeah ue eimi probably the smart thing to do

[untold tusk]

I buy the other students elephs in the upcoming months is good then?

[frail glen]

eimi elephs must get imo

rest you can balance it out between artifacts and elephs

for JFD

[untold tusk]

I know then

I always am never certain what to buy from shops

[echo oar]

sometimes you just gotta push through that uncertainty and do what you think is best based on what you've learned so far

[pure vessel]

no shame in asking for advice and doing what you think is best based off said advice

[echo oar]

I'm fairly sure gear has seen the gph shop eleph guide a couple times though

could always consult that again

[untold tusk]

My decisions are too hastily made most times I think that the decisions I decided on are bricks

[frail glen]

NGL

maybe it is just me

[untold tusk]

I bought 0 BKRoko elephs for past 3 months so is bricks

[frail glen]

I am beginning to think that the shop eleph guide really only apply to players not really owning any gacha units

because unless going for luna, many of those said units have a gacha premium option

[pure vessel]

the shop guides in gp-info are like

quite old arent they

[untold tusk]

I bought Natsu elephs only to get spook Kanoe on fes

[frail glen]

except Koharu and Maki and eimi and some few exceptions

[frail glen]

yeah that's what I am saying

like what is the point of keep buying natsu elephs monthly if Kanoe is spooked

[dim frigate]

because they add another difficulty and you're in the spot where you need them again

also "what if you spook x"

[loud knoll]

you still will need ligma to raise kanoe and natsu is effectively free

[untold tusk]

I like Natsu so therefore I would not mind buying more elephs of Natsu

[pure vessel]

tbh you can swap up the priority based on what your account needs

[echo oar]

just missing onodoka, it looks

[pure vessel]

it's true you can give lower priority to natsu if you spook a kanoe, kanoe will do fine up to ins and quite possibly tor even just at 3 star

[echo oar]

...because peroro luna isn't a 1pan??

[frail glen]

my train of thought goes along something like this
spending most coins on mats to actually raise students for a smoother transition period clearing insane and tor
after having core units raised, then move on to exchanging elephs because you won't need those mats anymore and have excess coins

[frail glen]

[echo oar]

haha okay

[pure vessel]

like

[quartz remnant]

Did you forgot swakamo

[echo oar]

swakamo's not here yet!!!

[pure vessel]

for a newbie they don't have the coin surplus to clean out shop every reset

[untold tusk]

And also Hiyori

[quartz remnant]

Next month

[echo oar]

it'd confuse people if it included a unit that's not even there

[pure vessel]

they have to choose who to raise first

and if a spooked unit already occupies the same niche as a farmable unit then you don't need to farm that unit asap to unlock a core capability

[quartz remnant]

you have cshiroko there as ‘soon’ anyway

[frail glen]

I feel like exchanging with the target of clearing luna right off the bat, or exchanging just because people told you so, can be a potential misuse of your resources because you re having too much short-run opportunity cost

[echo oar]

ye but it was made 4 months ago

[untold tusk]

So can I continue skip buying elephs of BKRoko?

[echo oar]

cmon let's not be pedantic, obviously it should have swakamo on it as "soon" too if it were remade at this time

[pure vessel]

it's not even worth worrying about luna until you have the capability to clear every tor first imo

[echo oar]

my comment about it missing onodoka was just for right now

[frozen birch]

Me not doing Geb tor or yesod for before my first lunatics lol

[loud knoll]

You have several unbuilt fes units and important supports, raising them should be higher priority than shop elephs. Once you somewhat catch up (and also do higher difficulties for more rewards), there will be more free coins to buy whatever

[untold tusk]

Which fes students to build first I could write a note on that

[quartz remnant]

Supports to ue40, dps to ue50 minimum
Who first depends on what raid ur planning to do

[pure vessel]

wtf

no

[grim finch]

wtf

[untold tusk]

I do not have enough eligma for UE40

[grim finch]

u dont need ue40 for any support

[pure vessel]

who the fuck out here recommending every support to ue40 lmao

[grim finch]

and u dont even need to ue40 ur dps

[dim frigate]

The guide only tells you to buy the most useful ones though, you can argue to not buy B.asuna but even if you do you're not really getting that far ahead resource wise

[pure vessel]

ue50 minimum for dps is crazy as well aside from supercarry teams you can get away with ue30 in a surprising number of lunatics

[untold tusk]

I only got MKArisu to UE50 since I like Arisu

[pure vessel]

I ran ue30 miyu ue30 ptsumire in first lunatic wakaboat

and that was one of the hardest lunatics at that time

[quartz remnant]

So you guys don’t ue40 ur snagisa or rio?

Huh

[grim finch]

they are casual player

that only care about ins

and getting gold rank

[pure vessel]

it is not something I would be recommending to anyone

[grim finch]

ue40 support isnt even needed on tor

[true scroll]

it is basic human rights

[pure vessel]

if you're at a point where you need 19% extra buff duration to make your rotations work you shouldnt need people telling you to do it

[marble gust]

sorry

[pure vessel]

you should know

[marble gust]

me broke f2p

[untold tusk]

I might attempt Torment for fun though am not confident at all that I could clear any

[true scroll]

though it is not something a new player should focus on

[quartz remnant]

Perhaps a bit too casual for me
If you don’t ue your supports nor dps, where are you guys spending ur ligmas

[marble gust]

have you tried throwing more teams to makeu p the dps

on niche dps

[frail glen]

I do believe the guide did a good job showing useful exchanges
My problem isn't with the guide image itself, but more with the consensus that after having done what the guide recommended, people still recommend to prior elephs over everything else

[marble gust]

or other utility

[frail glen]

which I personally believe can be misleading

[marble gust]

shit like atsuko

[pure vessel]

ue50 hinata in 2024 for the borrows

:^)

[marble gust]

ok thats just bad

[pure vessel]

hey she was the speedrun meta for like a solid year and a half

[loud knoll]

Only noneleft recommends getting elephs over everything else as far as I know

[grim finch]

its never recommended to ue anyone just because u have ligma, and when u are clueless

its just not the advice to give to newbies

[west perch]

Ever seen this before?

I get you're a whel but like cmon

this is basics

[marble gust]

i mean this is the whel chat

if he said that in gph maybe

like lol

[grim finch]

the f2p still chat here

[echo oar]

it's because it's whale chat that people should be conservative with spending eligma

[pure vessel]

whel2p chat

[grim finch]

and they can get the wrong idea

[echo oar]

cause you can't blow your stash of eligma on needless upgrades and lock yourself out of the next luna

[true scroll]

kaijup chat

[west perch]

but if everyone is UE, you're not locked out on anything

[obsidian heath]

rio snagisa sure but I didn't ue2 my skanna
or my geb supports
or you could come up with dozens of other examples

[marble gust]

also only interested in competing in f2 not f1

[pure vessel]

ngl I havent had to spend a ton of ligma on luna lately

[frail glen]

ngl I think we are overestimating average player's eglima income

[untold tusk]

I am saving eligma for UE60 SHiyori so therefore I can not spend a lot of eligma

[echo oar]

eligma income is so slow!

[grim finch]

the avg ligma income is tied with avg pyro income what

[pure vessel]

if you only roll pinks you get good ligma income

[loud knoll]

pull everyone
build everyone
can't go wrong with those solutions

[frail glen]

i am saying that because the ue40 supports sounds like what someone with too much eligma would do

or at least above average eligma income

[west perch]

I mean this is the guy that would rather 2pan mald rather than 4pan comfy

so can't say much

[grim finch]

i dont have too much eligma but i ue40 most supports

[echo oar]

who?

[west perch]

overkill

[echo oar]

ahhh

[frail glen]

I think overkill is right though

like

[marble gust]

comfy

[frail glen]

some of the really common support can def use ue40?

[grim finch]

right if u have 100k ligma

[marble gust]

not rly

[frail glen]

not they are useful, but they are so commonly used to a point of might as well

[marble gust]

its if you need it or not

[pure vessel]

tbh I ran ue30 rio for a pretty long time

[west perch]

oh okay, so you would recommend a non-lv90 to use eligma on their supports immediately when obtaining them without even thinking about their usage

[pure vessel]

just didnt need the extra buff duration

[west perch]

Got it

[pure vessel]

I only ue40'd her when a rotation needed it

[untold tusk]

How to get more eligma

[rocky cosmos]

Just be really oldge player

[pure vessel]

and I'm a full luna player

[west perch]

Hey go ue40 all your supports right now

[untold tusk]

No

[frail glen]

I don't think they are suggesting new players to eligma though
I think they are trying to sending a message to stop ignorantly hoarding all eligmas

[marble gust]

holy chad

[pure vessel]

I duped snagi straight to ue40 though lol

[marble gust]

gea finally thinking for once?

[untold tusk]

I would only UE40 students that I like most!

[quartz remnant]

You guys had vastly different gameplay experience than me
Ofc I don’t ue if I’m clueless
I usually find a suitable hw for me before raid and I’ll just ue what’s missing as long as the ligmas are enough and if they will be used again in the future or not
Hyperbuffers are generally good to ue40 first like kisaki, chare for how common they are used in raids (depends on your tl but your life is much easier than them ue40)

[west perch]

bro nobody's hoarding away from clear here
Everyone's starving for eligma

[grim finch]

who even hoard ligma

[west perch]

It's already been said in the image above:
if you need to use eligma, and you KNOW you need to use it. Then you use it

what you can't say is to blindly UE every support "cuz they're used everywhere"

[pure vessel]

I wouldn't be throwing out terms like "supports to ue40 and dps to ue50 minimum" even if the context was fes units only

[frozen birch]

Like UE40 Ako for the heal only

[pure vessel]

(it wasnt clear whether you were talking about fes units only)

[frail glen]

like come on guys we don't have to always assume extremes
it is not like it is a suggestion screaming "YOU DON'T UE YOU ARE WRONG" or "IF YOU UE YOU ARE WRONG"

[marble gust]

kisaki is still the only support id recommend ue, but you can still absolutely live without

[rocky cosmos]

Hoard eligma, mock, shit not working, you know eligma will fix it, then use it

[west perch]

because then you have baggers come in gph with ue60 supports and then saying "oh i did that cuz xyz said it's good to"

[torn thorn]

[quartz remnant]

I usually add a 3rd hibiki team if I don’t want to mald and I’ll still have 5300+

[west perch]

and they're the ones doing what, insane?

[marble gust]

joexyz?!?

[quartz remnant]

It can be very comfy

It’s just that I want a good score

[marble gust]

then you do you

[pure vessel]

2pan geburah is comfy if you have an ejection team ready

[marble gust]

if you spent ligma for it then its on you

[frail glen]

honestly I think that is more of a communication issue?
I don't think a new player reading these messages would just automatically go ue60 a support

[marble gust]

but people generally dont

[loud knoll]

its stat transfer also!

[grim finch]

some do

[marble gust]

ur overestimating again

the average casual

[grim finch]

because

gacha players

cant read

[pure vessel]

even if you miss the groggy window on the second team you can just ball it to like 10~20m hp left

[untold tusk]

I might have done it a few months ago if I were told that

[pure vessel]

which is an easy cleanup for hibiki or ukarin

[echo oar]

side thing, say if you want to do all lunas as an end goal, do you think using eligma vertically (2pan mald ue50+ dps's) or horizontally (4pan comfy ue40- dps's) results in lower eligma spent by the time you've done em all

[marble gust]

if you tell them to throw every single resources they had on nodoka theyll do it without a doubt

[frail glen]

I feel like that is an extreme case

[echo oar]

horizontally might give you more usable units for more teams in other lunas, but vertically is likely less eligma invested for that specific raid

[frozen birch]

Fair….

[grim finch]

i even saw someone get c6 of a character (that is fking weak compare to others c0) in gfl2 just because someone told him that character is good

[loud knoll]

People generally shouldn't do something because stranger on the internet told them to
Raising wrong unit is far from worst thing which can happen

[grim finch]

and he end up getting rage and quit

[marble gust]

natural selection atp

[dim frigate]

everyone is destined to make newbie mistakes

[pure vessel]

except me, I'm perfect

[frail glen]

I mean just think before doing choices, and if you screw up, you eat it up

[rocky cosmos]

That's depend on how far you willing to go for horizontal
Because some raid barely need eligma use

[untold tusk]

I luckily was never told to UE40 any support student

[pure vessel]

:^)

[frail glen]

I know choices I made ain't perfect, but at least I can recover

[west perch]

I'd have thought not levelling everyone in your roster would be obvious as well
and yet I see too many newbies commit that mistake

[dim frigate]

yeah thats a funny mistake and generally harmless

[echo oar]

yeah I had arch's comment about using atsuko in mind

[torn thorn]

can’t clear Luna without ue40 specials

[echo oar]

like she's plenty usable in random teams if she's already ue30'd or ue40'd, but she needs to be invested there in the first place

[frail glen]

I feel that is just mostly on the lack of actual game knowledge
because as a new player, they don't really know the threshhold for each gamemodes, and the actual reason why they are not clearing missions within time(so they try to raise different units and test water)

[untold tusk]

I am not interested that

[west perch]

lunatic as a difficulty as an endgoal?
Easy. Just play for 2 years from now.

[echo oar]

and I don't think atsuko's in any specific speedrun comp anymore

[marble gust]

id defo not recommend ue40 atsuko in this era

especially when bnatsu

[echo oar]

yeah exactly haha

[quartz remnant]

Most lunas can be done by building fest dps yourself and borrowing non fest dps
What matters more is the supports you’re going to ue because fest dps will def be used again in the future

[frail glen]

but think about pvp

[marble gust]

i already did

and i kinda regret

[frail glen]

[marble gust]

i ue40ed her for krkg

just to borrow csena

[frail glen]

[marble gust]

[dim frigate]

atsuko in pvp is a shell of her former self

she was straight up unkillable for the longest time

[frail glen]

aren't we all shell of our proud former selves

[dim frigate]

not me

[proven dove]

Still too young to be shells

[marble gust]

my proud former self ue30ed hoshino iori using ligma

[proven dove]

The prime is in the future (hopefully)

[pure vessel]

me when I go to build my fes dps and arona sends me a bill for 600 million credits

[dim frigate]

love her but cant commit to ue 60 lol

[loud knoll]

committed to path of nezo early on

[marble gust]

same

[quartz remnant]

50m to fully build a student
It’s usually not that bad unless it’s a new boss like yesod which is going to cost me 350m

[grim finch]

u would ue60 if u pick a better waifu

[pure vessel]

I'm gonna ue60 my tmari/imari when I hit bond 100

[ripe mason]

Try Serina and Kotama

[dim frigate]

your alt is coming soon buddy

the eleph reaper comes

[rocky cosmos]

I feels like the more bullshit you are willing to go the less eligma you need (but more of other mats)
Like 3*-4* unit can go surprisingly far
Fes dps is fine at ue40 ish, support star rarely matter

[pure vessel]

think it's over 60m now with ue60s tbf

oh what's my dumbest 5 cost eligma

probably hifumi?

[quartz remnant]

Ue50-60 does cost a few millions

[pure vessel]

I didn't farm her before tor wakaboat dropped and I needed her at ue30 to not want to kill myself

so I just ligmad her

she's ue60 now

[quartz remnant]

How many ligmas did you spend

[loud knoll]

I have 5 eligma s.izumi

[pure vessel]

on hifumi?

[quartz remnant]

Ye

[pure vessel]

not too much, went base 4 star > ue30

[covert spoke]

no

[dim frigate]

[quartz remnant]

400 ligmas

[marble gust]

tf

[covert spoke]

only b41

[quartz remnant]

Not that bad ig

Although right now it would be 1/2 of a ue40

[ripe mason]

should've done it with 4 star hifumi like me

[frail glen]

wait why is hifumi with ue or high stars necessary

isn't her role just to summon peroro and distract?

[proven dove]

Peroro's hp

[marble gust]

koharuproud

[loud knoll]

summon becomes fatter, some strats rely on that

[frail glen]

well can't do much, only farmed during 2x events for so long

[covert spoke]

is rei better than dsaori

[proven dove]

Actually with hard farm at some point you feel that hifumi farm is really a high priority.

[obsidian heath]

personal preference

[quartz remnant]

In tiph uhh

[marble gust]

afaik you can guarantee rei being the one not getting hit in mreisa comps

for dsaori idk

[quartz remnant]

You generally use dsaori more

[obsidian heath]

arch said rei has a more preferable range or something

[marble gust]

no rei being the one not getting hit isnt like rly ideal either

[rocky cosmos]

Farm everyone like proper f2p sensei
Can't just pull and eligma everyone, every maxed student you can get for free matter

[marble gust]

funnily enough

[frail glen]

how so may I ask
I don't see her usage aside from wakaboat

[proven dove]

I prefer hearing saori's "saraba da"

[marble gust]

not sure if you want tiphy to miss some other units of yours instead in the same battle

[covert spoke]

she is good for hard content

[proven dove]

Wakaboat and kaiten p1, even some challenges she may be usable.

[covert spoke]

she is opposite of a win more unit

[obsidian heath]

I prefer yellow where I can listen to "kanarazu gokitai ni o kotaeshite misemasu no" ad nauseum

[covert spoke]

shuuchu

[echo oar]

maddening

[proven dove]

Feels useful when you need to be quirky

[pure vessel]

yeah looking through my ligma shop I literally don't think I ever made any straight up mistakes in my ligma spending

[frail glen]

thx

[quartz remnant]

Why use hifumi for kaiten when you have tsubaki already

[marble gust]

also rei ex kills faster so buff timings are gonna be a bit weirder

[pure vessel]

there's a few 5 costs I would say were impulsive or I could've lived without

[marble gust]

"dps first then buff" is gonna be little more tricky than dsaori

[covert spoke]

wish i could say the same

[echo oar]

gimme "ahaha! genki detekite kamo" in purple

[pure vessel]

but I can actually tie every purchase to a purpose

ue30 mmomoi for that one event challenge was totally worth it shut up

[echo oar]

also hikari's "uuooooooohhhhh..." is actually adorable

[obsidian heath]

I'm a "totsugeki pahyahya" enjoyer

[marble gust]

mika's one is kinda anticlimatic

[echo oar]

love it whenever she's in the team

[marble gust]

hers is just "hmm?"

[proven dove]

I don't use her anymore there, but I used her in my first kaiten tor with shanako :p

And surely she'll be used in luna kaiten (unless it's like binah luna)

[echo oar]

whew

[quartz remnant]

Spending secret tech notes to get 10 pages
Totally worth it

[echo oar]

at least it doesn't stand out much then

[frail glen]

Azusa keep saying vani vani is def the most memorable line in the game for me

although she isn't used much now days

[pure vessel]

tmari ex line

you know which one

best line in the game baby

[quartz remnant]

We have yakumo tho
Hifumi will be a very desperate choice for p1 bodythrow

[proven dove]

I don't have tmari ;_;

[pure vessel]

crucifixion

[marble gust]

ngl never used tmari before

[proven dove]

Whels will have yakumo :p hifumi will be used for more f2p comps

I wanna have her l2d so much

[covert spoke]

it is powercrept l2d

[proven dove]

The best mari l2d

[pure vessel]

gonna be lots of profligates hanging off crosses today

[covert spoke]

oh mari thought u meant yakumo

[frail glen]

[quartz remnant]

I’m a pvp warlord so I’m pulling her anyway
Also another healer at my reserve if I’m lucky

[frail glen]

btw was yuuka l2d there from day 1 of the game?

how come compared to shiroko, hers is like, very high quality

[dim frigate]

same reason why there's ups and downs for sprite art

[pure vessel]

early memorobis and sprites didn't really have a unified art direction

so you have stuff like

[dim frigate]

just different artists, time in production etc

[pure vessel]

utaha

[proven dove]

Hopefully you'll be lucky :3 takane is so cute (both are tbh)

[frail glen]

i see

[pure vessel]

younguns nowadays don't remember that not all students had memorobis

smh

[dim frigate]

shimiko was the last one right

[pure vessel]

wasn't it asuna

I'm pretty sure it was asuna

[frail glen]

are there students with 2 l2ds beside promotional l2ds from blue rays?

[snow portal]

Some didn't have L2Ds. Some had them, but no voicelines and some had no music

Those were strange times

[quartz remnant]

Thanks, much appreciated

[copper surge]

If you are going for old limiteds, it's better to aim for a rerun banner or go for the big recollection banner?

[quartz remnant]

Big recollection in case you get them early

[dim frigate]

if you just care about a single copy for collect > recollection

[echo oar]

ye in the rare case you get 2 rate-ups in 140 or whatever

the big reco banner would have been better, allowing you to spark a 3rd for 60

instead of ending your rolls there

[snow portal]

So what would you plan to try and snag from the old limiteds

[frail glen]

1 rate up in 200 without dry spark is already a luxury for me to think about

[pure vessel]

I got nutsuki early from the jp limited banner

[grim finch]

if i get both in 100 do i spark

[pure vessel]

no sizuna ig

[quartz remnant]

I wish we have more limited scamtix

[echo oar]

yeah, cause pulling on that banner means you're a collector in the first place

[copper surge]

at this point, half is buffing Hina, other half is collection, but SHina is a bit useful on Kaiten. Iori is mostly for funzies (they share a banner)

if I go for Recollection banner, I'd go for SHina, SAzoo, IMari (on that order)

[grim finch]

wait i mistake it with fes recollection

[frail glen]

from timeline perspective, how likely is SUI and S Hinata going to be added for recollection limited banner in the next run
they were my pull targets, but if they are going to be merged, I might skip

[grim finch]

but ig i have my answer

[quartz remnant]

5.5-6th anniversary I assume

[dim frigate]

I wouldnt bet on additions to the fes/limited recollections until archive banner receives an update

[snow portal]

I.Mari?

[frail glen]

yeah that's a solid point

[dim frigate]

They could update them sequentially or update them all at once post fes, just depends on what they wanna do

[copper surge]

sorry, TMari

[frail glen]

well good thing is that we are still months behind

thx jp bros for testing waters for us

[snow portal]

I see

[frail glen]

hopefully we get some news update before the actual banners

[snow portal]

She's been sitting here collecting dust ever since I pulled T.Yuuka

[frail glen]

I never realized howbig t mari's bag was

[echo oar]

it'll be a real anomaly if the fest reco banner doesn't get updated every fest, though...

[quartz remnant]

You might need her if luna hiero gets hard enough

[echo oar]

like, we don't have any data to go off of yet, but that just seems like the logical thing to do

[quartz remnant]

But other than that uhh

She's pretty much dead

[echo oar]

surely they're adding shanako next fest

[frail glen]

toooooo biggggg

[copper surge]

Sometimes BA does not make sense

[frail glen]

so does life sometimes

[copper surge]

like, when they added Shanako, we expect a sonic raid soon after and it took a long time for it to pop

[untold tusk]

I am ready to get SHanako in 40 when that happens

[dim frigate]

Yeah, updating them and then running everything right after fes is honestly in their best interest, any new players added during a fes would be able to roll whatever the wanted

[snow portal]

I don't really do Lunatic anyways

[frail glen]

guys any rituals I should perform to up my chances at spooking s hanako during 5th fest

[copper surge]

I saw funny TMari uses on Hiero, but now we have so many new healers I dont know if people would still use her

[copper surge]

The Credit Card ritual

The more you sweep, bigger the chances

[untold tusk]

If you want SHanako offrate best to 1600

[grim finch]

this is the only ritual u need

[frail glen]

[quartz remnant]

If only her ex position isn't fixed...

[echo oar]

headpat plana 3 times, give arona a noogie, pull within the minute

[quartz remnant]

Welp

At least you have the bond transfer so imari can heal the lantern under debuff easier

[grim finch]

i only got 1 fes spook in 400 pulls, and i already had her

so good luck

[copper surge]

I usually get at least 1 off-banner fest in each fest, but it is random of which fest I'll get

[untold tusk]

I only got Rio as fes spook last fes after rolling 340

[copper surge]

for a long time, I got 1 wakamo every fest

[snow portal]

True it took a few months after release before Kurokek showed up and even longer for purple GA that used her like purple peroro

[copper surge]

eventually the streak broke

[untold tusk]

I would say a specific fes offrate is not very good chance to happen

[copper surge]

I expect the recollection banner to update either annually, or bi-annually

but most important, as BA get more students, Nexon want to avoid 10 banners running at once, the recollection banner also means we'll probably never see those students banners ever again.

So in the future, if you want to get, say, SAzoo, you'll NEED to go for the recollection banner, which is worse than going for her normal banner.

[untold tusk]

Why is worse?

[echo oar]

ohhhh right, the limited reco banner also only gives you +100 elephs for the first rate-up?

[untold tusk]

Recollection can not one get 2-4 students in one banner?
I do not see the problem with that

[quartz remnant]

Ye

Which can be a small problem if you actually want to build her

[copper surge]

Because you are limited (lol) to the students on that banner, so you cant finish the spark with something out of that banner (I guess is not an issue if you want 2 units from recolleciton tho)

[untold tusk]

Most would want 2 students if rolling recollection I would imagine

[echo oar]

yeah I mean, we're gonna hit a point where units like nagi get added to the reco banner

unless eos

[loud knoll]

s.azusa normally runs together with s.mashiro and s.hifumi though

[quartz remnant]

I don't have toki so that's pretty good for me

I might pull her for hiero if brio isn't good enough

[west perch]

we have another toki rerun?

she ain't in reco

[quartz remnant]

No I'm just replying that if nagi gets added to recollection banner toki would also be

[west perch]

oh

[echo oar]

BA in 2030: new players must save 400 pulls to get imari + tyuuka + nagi in the limited reco and 600 pulls to hope to get the 6 fest units in that reco banner, and then save another 600 for the quint fest coming up

[quartz remnant]

Toki is only used for hiero right

[west perch]

p much ye

[untold tusk]

Toki and Nagisa rerun in August on jp this year and I already have planned skip

[loud knoll]

toki was used in red binah

if that matters

[untold tusk]

I just borrow

[quartz remnant]

I tend to not spend any resources on GA exclusively
I can just borrow one anyway

Torment is just 1 team

[untold tusk]

Was there ever a GA Hod or not yet?

[quartz remnant]

2023

Only once

[polar orbit]

The future looks bright

[quartz remnant]

BA can never be beginner friendly

[snow portal]

Well no gacha game lasts forever

[echo oar]

yeee, the upside is that they're speeding through raid difficulties faster than ever now

[snow portal]

Well it could, but that would lose money

[untold tusk]

What you mean beginner friendly?

I feel most Insane raids are easy enough

[snow portal]

Good question!

[untold tusk]

Beginners would not ever consider doing Torment in their first month

[quartz remnant]

There is something they can do such as giving more archived banner tickets and since no one spend actual money on there anyway whether you give more or not

[snow portal]

First we need to define what beginner friendly is

[polar orbit]

I kinda hope they rerun encore recruitment at least twice a year, though I doubt they will

[quartz remnant]

Completing most torment within a year

[odd geyser]

[untold tusk]

That is not correct definition

[quartz remnant]

Is a year too long

[polar orbit]

For why...

[frail glen]

impossible without whale

source: me

[quartz remnant]

Did you horde ap

[odd geyser]

we need permits

[polar orbit]

This is true...

[untold tusk]

You know that not everyone cares about clearing Torment

[old rose]

this is not too bad currently

[odd geyser]

this is gpd

[frail glen]

yeah I agree
GPD is the exception I see

[grim finch]

i cleared all tor except geb and boat in 9 months

is i beginner friendly

[frail glen]

oh so it was you

bruh

and i got flamed for it

[loud knoll]

did all of them even run within that time window?

[odd geyser]

do every goz on hardest difficulty

[grim finch]

if u count ga then yes

when was pelolo? jan?

10 months then

[snow portal]

Well, that definition seems to be tied moreso to progression for a new player rather than "How easy is it for someone brand new to use or understand the game?"

[untold tusk]

I can not really care about clearing Torment
I think of it as more just a fun distraction for me to attempt since Insane already can get gold

[odd geyser]

as your level gets close to max, you'll realize gold isn't actually that hard to get

[frail glen]

gold looks better anyway

[loud knoll]

raids are just minigame to distract people from cafe building, or so I've heared

[untold tusk]

I hear Torment is stressful so I am not certain about attempting

[frail glen]

okay but fr though, raids is just a minigame that offer some rewards
nothing worth pulling your hairs out for

[polar orbit]

life is just a distraction from gaming

[odd geyser]

i cant compete

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-sensei-gif-11902604194440307830

[frail glen]

headpat

[polar orbit]

oh whoops forgot to spend my pvp tickets

[simple ravine]

omg bruh did jfd 10 seconds before reset

[polar orbit]

darn

[grim finch]

can just quit after u finish all missions

[simple ravine]

even got 140 coins

[frail glen]

like I always said

[simple ravine]

💢 how is 140 coins brick

[frail glen]

don't forget the reason why you started playing BA

[simple ravine]

brickleft

[copper crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101038311792984104/1230558822154637384/HeadpatTimeRedux.gif

[hallow plank]

I prefer (?) red where I can listen to:
“Ame nara takusan a…”
“Ah, guitar~”

[odd geyser]

i should read story

[quartz remnant]

Understanding the game is important but if new players are short on everything they still can’t do much because they have no hyperbuffers or human rights

[copper crescent]

story is rly good

[proven dove]

It's a great one :3

[frail glen]

it has akira so it is peak

[copper crescent]

akira = 🧠

I'm so glad I read it

[untold tusk]

I like some of the students personalities so I started playing was not because of the main story

[loud knoll]

do you like uniform akira or thief akira more?

[dim frigate]

thief is her natural state

[grim finch]

the reason i start BA is i was bored and wanted to find another gacha

[copper crescent]

miyo was impressive

[grim finch]

and i heard BA is f2p frenly

[copper crescent]

thief akira is more her true self i think

[snow portal]

Well that's not really needed to understand the basics of the game though. Really all they need to know is provided by the tutorial. Match colors to do good damage, skills use cost, characters move on their own, etc. Everything beyond that would simply be progression

[frail glen]

MOM GET THE CAMERA

[copper crescent]

u can do most tor within a year though...

[frail glen]

I doubt it

[atomic arrow]

[frail glen]

need luck, mats, and pyro

[polar orbit]

two assassins @opaque dagger

[frail glen]

ayo?

[grim finch]

[frail glen]

bond 22 kisaki gang?

[snow portal]

What I'm saying here is that, BA is beginner friendly because it's very easy to pick up and play. The difficulty comes from progressing beyond the basics to more intermediate levels of play

[dim frigate]

hm.....

[copper crescent]

you rly only need kisaki and ako for most tors these days

[loud knoll]

[frail glen]

[grim finch]

close

[frail glen]

[ashen goblet]

Thigh.. pants.

[copper crescent]

binah, srkr, hiero, peroro, goz, greg, keke are all doable with kisaki and ako and decent farmables

[ashen goblet]

Tor krkg took me 7 months but greg tor took me a more than a year due to no mine i think.

[loud knoll]

Curious if those disappear after 03/10, but I guess its unknown

[frail glen]

oh carp

[echo oar]

b22x2

[grim finch]

krkg was my 1st TA tor, and it will be my 1st luna too

[frail glen]

I forgot to do schale medallions for the past 3 weeks

[ashen goblet]

Same ||I hope||

[marble gust]

my first tor was blue greg

[ashen goblet]

Was my first normal too

[copper surge]

Have you noticed how we never see Akira and that girl in green in the same room? I wonder....

[grim finch]

why u have same 1st tor as me

[quartz remnant]

Ah you are focusing on the basic progression instead of TA/GA
basic progression is good enough imo, normal stages are easy as you are overleveled
But other than building waifu, ba is just mainly competitive content (TA, GA and pvp) and they put your progression and resources to a test and where you’ll be rewarded for good planning
Right now new players are barely able to compete and score chasing not until 1-2 years after, even if you hyperwhale from day 1 you’ll still be short of tech notes/weapons parts/equipment and that can be improved greatly

[echo oar]

is this what the kids are paying attention to these days

one page off

[loud knoll]

Must be coincidence

[copper crescent]

maybe they're twins

[dim frigate]

this would be a legit hilarious twist

[snow portal]

Somewhat, I'm looking at beginner friendly as "The simplicity or ease for beginners to play and understand the game". Anything beyond that be it progressing in missions/raids/etc is all something that comes after since as you mentioned this game you can simply live as a waifu collector and see no struggle whatsoever. The real grind/struggle only comes if the player makes that choice to go beyond that.

[frail glen]

but aren't twins so far in the game still have different halos?

like nozomi and hikari, momoi and midori

[copper crescent]

ikr

[loud knoll]

That's little hilarious

[grim finch]

unreal

[frail glen]

o wait i forgot that one time kaiser bots disguised as Valkry mobs

[snow portal]

The L2D of the day is brought to you by the letter N for Nodoka!

[copper crescent]

she looks so happy...

[gleaming wren]

of course she is

she's in a hotspring with sensei

[snow portal]

Looks at Chinatsu

[grim finch]

2 days no hinata eleph

its over

blue luna never

[quartz remnant]

Unless ur a waifu collector, everything else in ba lead to competitive content
Even the events are for you to grind resources and the only thing that matters for waifu collectior is the story and maybe the students themselves

[frail glen]

My argument has always been that

you gotta balance things out

too competitive you burn out
too waifu you began to lose interest

only sith deals in the absolute

[snow portal]

Yes, the point I'm making is there needs to be a distinction between "how hard is this game to pick up and play" and "how hard is this game to play on a more advanced level"

[true scroll]

i stole her dress

[snow portal]

Because I believe beginner friendly is "How easy is a game to play" and hard stop

[true scroll]

[snow portal]

Not "How hard is this game to play to progress to the the top level"

[frail glen]

chat we are so back
i made enough credits in time for wakamo invest

don't you dino react me

[snow portal]

1/5 bnnuy

[frail glen]

Fubuki actually serving donuts?

[snow portal]

Absolutely

She gets a discount for working here

So she's a part timer

[quartz remnant]

My mindset is quite the opposite
Only logging in everyday just to do daily quests and slacc are more boring to me
Score chasing can be fun if you have good planning and if you care about ranking it can be very rewarding

[frail glen]

ANYTHING but actually catching criminals

[snow portal]

Absolutely!

[polar orbit]

just like real life

[snow portal]

Lesson elephs

[frail glen]

that means I have credit left over to invest in S Hoshino!

[atomic arrow]

[frail glen]

should I ue40 her this instant

[quartz remnant]

sub skill lvl 1

Moment

[atomic arrow]

[quartz remnant]

Max that now

[simple ravine]

[frail glen]

my fault gang

do I ue40 her too now boss

[atomic arrow]

good job

no

[grim finch]

wtfff radiant

[frail glen]

copy that

[polar orbit]

ue40 nezo is human rights

[frail glen]

guys I am getting conflicting command rn

[atomic arrow]

nezo is nezo rights

[frail glen]

ue40 yes or no

[snow portal]

Bounty scammed!

[atomic arrow]

[loud knoll]

No need, save for Koyuki

[snow portal]

No scrim scam

[frail glen]

I really start to liking the way you think

[loud knoll]

You might not know something about me #🏆flex-archive message

[torn thorn]

I will ||DATA EXPUNGED|| koyuki

[frail glen]

I am honestly a little scared of yesod p2

idk how it is going to work invest wise

[quartz remnant]

p2 isn’t maldy

[snow portal]

Why

Doesn't it use some older units tho?

Like Mari

[frail glen]

p2 clears just have too many students I really hasnt invested yet

[snow portal]

[frail glen]

okay but who would invest in mari

and for what

[quartz remnant]

Def down

NS

[loud knoll]

pj koyuki announcement was real or meme by the way?

[frail glen]

it was real

[quartz remnant]

As well as max health increase

[frail glen]

official BA twitter

[torn thorn]

[snow portal]

Her shield so certain units don't die

[simple ravine]

do i get these or farm hards

[torn thorn]

Koyuki….

[frail glen]

those are free no?

from flipping cards

[quartz remnant]

Do you need credits

[summer dew]

but that would need bonding mari

shes at b12 or something

[simple ravine]

i have 257mil creds

[snow portal]

You decide

[quartz remnant]

Able to build 5 max students

See if that’s enough for you

[simple ravine]

oh double comms are tomorrow

[west perch]

(It isn't)

[frail glen]

does anyone has a reference on the minimum invest mimori, mari, saki, and noa needed to be for tor yesod?

JP bros just have everything maxed

[snow portal]

Nice

[west perch]

yeah I'm already saving for it starting now

[simple ravine]

ill just farm hards then and i have a lot of exp reports so ill farm creds

[west perch]

I'm at 1/240 and just claimed cafe

[torn thorn]

Me forced to 1x normal

[snow portal]

😭

[frail glen]

why not use EP

[loud knoll]

you don't want to run rabu there?

[snow portal]

Okay GPD, time to duel

[frail glen]

huh good point

how come tor doesn't run rabu for jp bros

[lyric hatch]

Rabu is raned

Youre just not looking at the right hw

[quartz remnant]

Noa is 51XM
Mimori is 5M11
Mari is 5M1M
Saki is 511M

[loud knoll]

Its one of the cheaper ones i've found for myself, probably can lowball even further

[simple ravine]

because the one you sent is faster that with rabu?

[quartz remnant]

X means depends on her survival

[frail glen]

any idea how on gear wise they would work?

nvm

thx

[west perch]

mimori mmxx t2 bg, whatever survives gear
saki mxxx, rest doesn't matter she can be lv1
Noa mxxx, whatever survives gear

Noa's debuff retention doesn't matter that much

[frail glen]

actualy those are pretty f2p

I think I can make it work

[west perch]

Saki is the cheapest there

m111 lv1 with no gear can work

[summer dew]

:cubes:

[frail glen]

update

I ran out of credits again folks

[dim frigate]

optimal gameplay

all resources at zero full send

[lyric hatch]

Bruh you gotta plan to upgrade m reisa m suzumi and rabu

[quartz remnant]

No necklace?
Or is it not like hod or wakaboat that scales with cc power

[dim frigate]

magical girl event gives a lot of resources so he'll be fine

also free week

[frail glen]

dw

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-ryuki-tokusatsu-survive-kamen-rider-ryuki-survive-gif-12943756710906165879

[west perch]

nope, no cc power.

[frail glen]

time to shed the shell of f2p

[west perch]

It's also only 5 seconds

[summer dew]

also magicals are useless and thus skippable 🚮

[frail glen]

jokes aside

I am done for investing srkr

[west perch]

it's universally 5s across all difficulties iirc

[frail glen]

so i should able to make some credits from GA to prep for TA

f2p shell recovered

[dim frigate]

credits is usually the easiest to solve problem so

[west perch]

ah, it's 3s on ext & below. 5s on ins+

[frail glen]

I can also resort to this

or this

the second image is a joke

[west perch]

so on ext & below, saki can work with no investment

[dim frigate]

i bought the 20 mil after proro cause i was giga broke

[lyric hatch]

Rabu only need ex lvl 3 for tor

[snow portal]

😭

[west perch]

sub atk buffs don't matter since it doesn't apply to turrets either

[lyric hatch]

Can cheap out on rabu

[proven dove]

I have a question, how much different are ue30 junko & pina from ue40 ? Since their passive+ is evasion and crit

Or the real difference in power is ue50 after all

[west perch]

their jump is at ue60 tbh

[proven dove]

Loool

[west perch]

They're in teams without any buffers at this point so ue60 is the more general substantial boost

[frail glen]

guys I think
||Rabu is the cooler and better Takane||

[gleaming wren]

what

[lyric hatch]

Nah

[gleaming wren]

that doesn't even make sense

[proven dove]

I'll leave them at ue30 for now then :p and continue farming ue+ for other farmable units

[west perch]

I doubt we're gonna use junko as premier yellow aoe ever again now that shasumi & syukari exist

[lyric hatch]

Takane is peak design almost makes me wanna pull for her

[frail glen]

you guys merely don't possess the vision I have

[proven dove]

They are too different

[frail glen]

if you put those two mug shots together

they give sibling vibes no?

[summer dew]

no

[frail glen]

I alone must suffer the consequence of my advanced vision

[lyric hatch]

Youre all alone on this one

[summer dew]

die

[frail glen]

one day the world will understand me

maybe not today

[proven dove]

It's only the red hair that does it but not really

I love both btw

[frail glen]

idk

Rabu just gives me the

crazy elder sister vibe you see on fictional medias

[lyric hatch]

Dont see it

She doesnt give the onee san vibe

[summer dew]

she's a delinquent and that's all there is to it

[frail glen]

NO?

wait can I send l2d of not released character in the chat