#💬gameplay-discussion

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proven dove
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I'm willing to mald her crits in ga hiero for fun :3 if I have the full team ofc (I forgot about it)

crude sable
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Should be TA, so yellow

odd geyser
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i missed the global part ngl

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I'll put up both Wakamo and MAris to see who people prefer

astral fern
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200 at most, don't know if I should go reisa or suzumi ReisaStare

idle rampart
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i'll borrow wakamo for comfy

astral fern
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Fucking autocorrect

idle rampart
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wait nvm smika

odd geyser
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I did no borrow comfy slacc for blue hiero GA on jp

idle rampart
crude sable
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Ill pick up msuzumi if I dont have to spark reisa

idle rampart
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which raid got first tor cutoff in jp?

marble gust
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if you rly dont lack healers id go msuzumi

odd geyser
idle rampart
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Reisa the mvp

frozen chasm
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next is shrkr GA?

crude sable
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Yepp

stuck valley
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my first insane clear perhaps

crude sable
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Luna or tor?

stuck valley
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idk

crude sable
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Oh gotcha, I believe in you maripray

frail glen
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I hope you clear insane

stuck valley
pure vessel
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reisa spin

stuck valley
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I can finally get the mid game title

past spruce
spice basin
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I'm gonna need a red tank for insane maripray

astral fern
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Reisa then

frosty tusk
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@worn berry im done with all my tickets now thank you so much for that ue60 gpina it really saved me MariSmile MariSmile MariSmile
ill delete u now in case anyone else wants to borrow !

astral fern
frail glen
frail glen
idle rampart
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shoot to heal

astral fern
frozen chasm
astral fern
frail glen
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I forgot that koharu heals by throwing a nade at her teammates

frail glen
idle rampart
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grenade which could differentiate between enemy or friends

spice basin
frozen chasm
frail glen
crude sable
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Dont forget to pay your farmable taxes sensei AkoWhip

frail glen
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skip farmables

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buy mats

marble gust
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sanest gpd moment

stuck valley
frail glen
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in my case, skipping farmables helped me clear torment

stuck valley
frail glen
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might hurt me in the long run for luna though

crude sable
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Aren't you NA server? Tor will keep you plat for quite a while lol

stuck valley
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Is Asia sweatier than NA

spice basin
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Surely I won't ever need 5* tsurugi and sumire ReisaDerp

frail glen
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I am a greedy little silly goofball
I clear insane and I want tor
i clear tor and I want luna

tall glacier
crude sable
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I actually think binah might be my first luna depending on what raids come between

marble gust
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lun has became so easy newbies wont kick their own foot going for lun anymore

tall glacier
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Unless you're talking about top 100

teal nova
odd geyser
marble gust
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it isnt a challenge

odd geyser
crude sable
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Speedrunning is the challenge lol

marble gust
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speedrunning lun wow

odd geyser
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believe it or not, this was the fastest team I could use to finish Tokipeace

marble gust
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newbies eating good

summer dew
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binah lun seems tor with extra steps

frail glen
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I smell level cap increase to 93 on 5.5th anni
and the introduction of a new difficulty tier

crude sable
stuck valley
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i sense powercreep

odd geyser
odd geyser
frail glen
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true, luna binah should have 200m health

proven dove
marble gust
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75-100mil wouldve been ideal

summer dew
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100 would do tbh, you run out of big dps after couple teams

marble gust
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idk why they made it 50

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and straight up benched dkayoko

stuck valley
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If I somehow spook Kisaki next should I selector iwak or daru

summer dew
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it was a choice

proven dove
odd geyser
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idk if they could've made the laser change if they made the hp much bigger

odd geyser
summer dew
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feels like nexon did this on purpose

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they know damn well how strong certain units are

crude sable
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True, the groggy setup/ phase transition for the laser with 100m hp would've been... interesting at best

odd geyser
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the mika team not needing a tank is wild though

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when tor first launched, we gave her a proper tank

pure vessel
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average 9 teams again please

crude sable
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Yeah that 2pan you posted was kinda crazy ngl

hollow saddle
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Yellow armored lunatic bosses be like:

crude sable
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Eh, hod was still a pain if you didnt have the correct CC units and dps

daring coral
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I did Luna hod without owning ckot

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But like

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I’d imagine most ppl wouldn’t even bother

frail glen
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omg koyuki

hollow saddle
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Ckot comfy daily lun

crude sable
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Koyuki may be my favorite goofball character ngl

frail glen
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Koyuki has her own tier
then it is aru, reisa, mina

crude sable
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Now this is a tier list I can get behind KoyukiSmug

frail glen
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Ritsu has potential but still not too many contents yet

astral fern
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I like aru and reisa from goofballs

frail glen
pure vessel
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binah be like
normal: worm
hard: worm
very hard: worm
hardcore: worm
extreme: worm
insane: worm
torment: SAIKYO IKKAU SNEK
lunatic: worm

marble gust
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binah ext ins debut was difficult

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and since its pre mika

crude sable
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Now we have multiple broken yellow dps units and dkayoko on the bench if need be lol

pure vessel
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ext debut was hard for everyone, binah got really easy really fast

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it wasnt hiero ext debut with 3 clears

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which stayed challenging until shosh

odd geyser
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bonus7's ext binah videos looked intense ngl

pure vessel
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pre mika ins binah wasnt exactly hard either

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kazusa already 1pan'd

frail glen
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now i wonder

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what luna chesed is going to be like

pure vessel
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and before kazusa there was yuzu

crude sable
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Ngl i really thought luna binah was gonna be one of those near impossible clears

pure vessel
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shouldve doubled his hp

odd geyser
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fuyu stocks falling

crude sable
pure vessel
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📉

daring coral
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Imagine if it’s field binah as Lunahoshinoblindstare

pure vessel
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1pan

odd geyser
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wdym

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its outdoor binah

daring coral
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Wait i swap it

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My bad

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This is why I hate waking up 4 amhoshinozzz

odd geyser
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also binah is gonna get stomped harder in urban KoharuWheeze

lilac solar
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kinda crazy how clearing ext used to be something to brag about

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I wouldn't know I took a three year hiatus KoyukiStare

lone widget
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game changes man

round kayak
marble gust
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im getting worse score than my last geb

odd geyser
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I actually upscored my first geb

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UE60 T10 powerful

ripe mason
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my rank has gone down every geb smh

odd geyser
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I upscored but rank is falling

lilac solar
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my last geb was 2pan ext

odd geyser
marble gust
frozen chasm
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its kinda funny

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cause there was no idol rerun

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so all you get between last geb and this one is c maki

ripe mason
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nagisa soloing the ice pillar this geb is a nice improvement as well

odd geyser
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and GPina

odd geyser
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is my nagisa strong enough

ripe mason
rich turret
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Nagisa havers 😔

odd geyser
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that team is already borderline doing too much damage tbf

rich turret
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I could never

ripe mason
odd geyser
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like 157m

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I really didn't wanna take it any lower so I forfeited early

stuck valley
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buy 2 secret tech note? ReisaDerp

odd geyser
stuck valley
odd geyser
stuck valley
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but i dont have

odd geyser
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even more of a reason to buy her then

stuck valley
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farmable?

odd geyser
stuck valley
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ok

pure vessel
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so magical

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built for tentacle-

frozen chasm
pure vessel
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why not both?

lilac solar
lilac solar
marble gust
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😟

snow portal
pure vessel
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yeah uh

snow portal
polar orbit
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not wrong

knotty copper
marble gust
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geburah brainrot

lilac solar
candid venture
pure vessel
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I was considering competing for top 10 but realized id have to do boshi pinball

marble gust
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im surprised ur top 20 without bhosh pingpong

snow portal
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Because other Sensei didn't want to do it either lmao

pure vessel
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yeah lmao

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surprisingly few boshi pinballers on na

snow portal
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They aren't tryna fuck around with this game's pathfinding

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Damn

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We don't have shit to do this week huh

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Aside from JFD

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And I guess hard node farming

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But man

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This week is going to be boring

frail glen
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you can enjoy reading stories

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i personally am excited for the next chapter

snow portal
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Main story update this week?

west perch
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which jfd is it anyway?

snow portal
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Red sweeper bots on indoor

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C.Kotori time

west perch
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ah, another aris sweeper jfd

snow portal
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Double Kotori is biggest score, but if you only use one C.Kotori then other aoe like S.Koharu/Hina work just fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=923zrKza0RU 3* Single C.Kotori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D_LBISq66c (Double C.Kotori)
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west perch
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sure but what if aris

snow portal
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Sure if you want

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shrug I don't see why not

crude sable
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Lol ckotori is NOT getting m777 for ts

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Id rather use double og hina and then the nagi team 3

snow portal
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Sure, there's many ways to clear

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All this does it make it faster

crude sable
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Yeah true, maybe someone in my club has her built for some reason ArisShrug

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I know i gotta save my millennium mats for fes

pure vessel
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I think I have a 4 star m777 ckotori already lol

candid venture
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Jfd is not real content

crude sable
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But it is free elephs/ mats ReisaStare

snow portal
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Besides the third link goes to the souriki page with other runs

desert sphinx
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he prolly is too rish of examp coins to care

snow portal
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Many teams to choose from

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From sweaty to slacc clear

pure vessel
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oh nvm

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3 star

snow portal
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3* can clear pretty well

lone widget
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st_kanoe_spaceout what's da gaki doing in my cafe

snow portal
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Being a gaki

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Existing

pure vessel
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being a tasty treat

snow portal
pure vessel
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I want a mouthful of nozomommy

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wait fuck I still have one day of geburah left I shouldnt turn my brain off yet

lone widget
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wonder when will i actually need to raise her

pure vessel
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do it now

lone widget
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or just leave her on eternal bench

pure vessel
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do it for love

lone widget
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nah

pure vessel
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do it for lust

lone widget
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me not lust for gakis

snow portal
frail glen
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I give up

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I can't upscore

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if I drop 800 ranks and become gold, so be it

pure vessel
lone widget
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aoba superior sadly

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wait no

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aoba superior happily

west perch
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their song is annoyingly catchy

queen plank
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howsnthe wapan discussion

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smth

lone widget
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my nitro almost ends

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no more dmichiru dance

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🙁

west perch
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how is nitro affecting that

lone widget
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cant set my animated pfp anymore

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welp

frail glen
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guys, how are we feeling after learning that you need luna speedrun to get plat in jp

lone widget
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idk

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i dont play jp that much

tawdry dune
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for binah?

tawdry dune
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after learning that its 50m bloat with no more stab / acc debuff

lone widget
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but hell jp is full of whels

tawdry dune
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not surprised

frail glen
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luna is luna

lone widget
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so their invest is like

frail glen
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a luna is a luna

lone widget
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whel tier

tawdry dune
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asia will be 4 digit cutoff

west perch
tawdry dune
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i can guarantee that

lone widget
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so ofc it's gonna be competitive

west perch
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I'd say top 5k there is competitive

ripe mason
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Hmm

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Not bad

lone widget
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NA should still be chillax

west perch
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I'd daresay cutoff would end at slow 2pan

lone widget
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tor at least

west perch
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because luna cutoff ain't the end of it

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not when the raid's this underwhelming

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this is more disappointing than finding out 4* kei survives 124 set

frail glen
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i know this might came out a bit wrong

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but I am just glad that I can have a chance to clear a lunatic raid without going full whale

west perch
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It's not even a lunatic

slate sky
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Hiero lunatic will probably be undertuned too like tor was

west perch
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don't call it that

pure vessel
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overfed torment

frail glen
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if it is written as lunatic, and it is placed after torment, it is lunatic

slate sky
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Kaiten, chesed should be ok

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Shiro kuro up in the air due to fes aris

west perch
snow portal
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Next, gebby is INS cutoff for sure

pure vessel
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man

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I can't wait to see how much of a bloodbath luna binah becomes on kr

buoyant flower
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kek

slate sky
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Cutoff 100%

pure vessel
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duh

buoyant flower
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52,9m cutoff probably

pure vessel
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if we have luna gold on jp then it's no questions asked on kr

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we might be looking at tor silver

frail glen
pure vessel
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Just for reference luna binah has over four times the number of clears of the second easiest luna (krkg, on its SECOND run, after a round of nerfs)

frozen chasm
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ahhh yes spoiler for something that was aired decades ago

pure vessel
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the joke sailing so far above his head it's co-altitude with the ISS

crude sable
queen plank
frozen chasm
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ah yes people who cant detect sarcasm

queen plank
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can kr cook up smth from lun binah

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uhh wanpan

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tho yea if kr merge with asia 2 id be gone

crude sable
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Maybe? I kinda dont think its possible without some serious balding

marble gust
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its a 3min raid not 4min

crude sable
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In fact, I dont really think wanpan lun is possible even with the most favorable conditions tbh

queen plank
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ik

pure vessel
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don't think 3 min will be possible

west perch
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unironically

queen plank
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true

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so they only calculate on time

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not on pan also

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score

crude sable
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Correct

west perch
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is it too early to say 53m is slacc?

queen plank
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yesnt

west perch
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think that'll be my goal for luna binah

crude sable
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Wait till it releases on global, then we call it slacc NinSleep

west perch
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not going for 53.1

queen plank
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ima just aim for lun binah

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tho i wont have chare and daru

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idk

west perch
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I can beat luna binah right now

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without bhimari

queen plank
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i cant

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:(

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lvl70

crude sable
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Same actually, though it might be 3pan without bhimari, id have to run the calcs

queen plank
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mb i cam get to lvl 90

west perch
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wait what

queen plank
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or just suck it upand do tor

west perch
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you're a fresh newbie?

queen plank
crude sable
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The fact that someone at lvl 70 is saying theyll settle for tor says alot about how slacc binah is

west perch
idle rampart
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@grand fern congrats you are in my feed

spice basin
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Lvl70 tor binah natsustare

ashen goblet
west perch
simple igloo
queen plank
ashen goblet
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Rip

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Gigachad left kivotos in danger

lone widget
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i love blue archive

dull mauve
round kayak
pure vessel
frail glen
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am I lucky enough to also get a note

west perch
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of either newbies or ppl I don't wanna help hoshinoblindstare

summer dew
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i keep notes too but they are like at this level of detail

pure vessel
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I want to take every breath for the rest of my life through mari's pantyhose fr fr

marble gust
frail glen
west perch
frail glen
round kayak
summer dew
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ikr

round kayak
summer dew
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tiph balder chiaki simp yeah sounds about right

west perch
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I just need a reminder of how fresh some people are

pure vessel
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I can't help it with geburah running im spending an hour+ looking at this orange haired nunny succubus twirl and blow kisses at me im about to blow

tall glacier
pure vessel
queen plank
dull mauve
orchid axle
round kayak
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:nezo:

pure vessel
orchid axle
odd geyser
echo oar
pure vessel
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somebody has to make up for the subvitals shaped hole in gpd

summer dew
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i read that so wrong

round kayak
pure vessel
summer dew
tall glacier
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filling subvital's hole i see

summer dew
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your words not mine

round kayak
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how big is the hole

pure vessel
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at least one

round kayak
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One inch?

summer dew
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one unit

midnight river
echo oar
round kayak
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Wtf

tall glacier
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Thank you lethe maripray

echo oar
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you got big shoes to fill KoyukiStare

round kayak
# echo oar

Funny how I knew it was lethe immediately for some reason

midnight river
queen plank
eternal thorn
queen plank
pure vessel
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ssg lethe

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so many gpdegens have fallen in their journey already

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I must carry on their spirit

round kayak
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I await your extended speech on our lord and saviour mari

lone widget
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i need her idol ver to complete my maris collection

echo oar
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soon maripray

eternal thorn
pure vessel
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I need her to complete me

inner valve
west perch
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I ain't that devoted. I just buy overpriced merch

covert spoke
sturdy scarab
royal robin
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Imagine retaining plat with extreme monkaThink

dusky terrace
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god bless slaccsia

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can't say the same for top 100 tho

pure vessel
royal robin
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please slacc until reset Prayge

calm flicker
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Lun sc iirc

dusky terrace
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i believe we're still going to see insane cutoff in asia in the next binah ta

west perch
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oh wao, I really am slow huh

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bottom 30 luna

sturdy scarab
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damn luna competitive this geb

frozen chasm
past spruce
sturdy scarab
candid gust
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dk*yoko is trash imo

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she lost to a car

west perch
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I mostly care about the clear but I thought 51.7 wasn't that bad

sturdy scarab
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peav

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your organs are mine again

astral fern
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Is dkayoko has worse crit than Satsuki?

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So much slander about her

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Or has low accuracy?

frozen chasm
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stab

astral fern
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What is stab

past spruce
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Stability

frozen chasm
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ur mom

west perch
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same type attack bonus

summer dew
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🔪

frozen chasm
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FYI mika is 77%

astral fern
frozen chasm
past spruce
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Nozomi is 69% iirc

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Or was it 68%

frozen chasm
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68.24

past spruce
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She has lower stab than D.Kayoko

astral fern
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All about hit points

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Nozomi has few

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Dkayoko just 1

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You miss on dk you gg

frozen chasm
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at least nozomi dont bend over after getting tickled once

ashen goblet
west perch
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eh, good enough. I'll sweep some t4/5s later

snow portal
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Welp no more grinding BPs for a while

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Tomorrow we farm hard nodes

frozen chasm
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I'm going back to event farm

west perch
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I'm doing half/half

frozen chasm
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got quite a lot of rainbow this time around

west perch
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I'm almost done with event so just gotta finish that off

snow portal
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I'll just ignore that last post

astral fern
wicked vine
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@frozen chasm Hello

pure vessel
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gonna do a little more event grinding

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not a whole lot tho

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ritsu soon brothers

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yall are pulling her right

wicked vine
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who

pliant kelp
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guys my blue archive look a bit weird

stuck valley
tall glacier
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surely my momos will save me

west perch
round kayak
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oil barrel above me

stuck valley
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🦖

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unc

tall glacier
odd geyser
lost shell
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im not even day 1

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😔

astral fern
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Dajin be the biggest kaiju out of all

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Next to Deno ofc

frozen chasm
odd geyser
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me comfy casual f2p

wicked vine
frozen chasm
summer dew
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me comfy casual f2p

pure vessel
astral fern
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More believable than dajin

summer dew
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i believe dajin is comfy casual f2p

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it's in his name

pure vessel
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we are all comfy casual f2p on this blessed day

calm flicker
round kayak
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Look at these kaijus, me fishy can't compete

west perch
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says the one with more b50s than me

dim frigate
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🦎

west perch
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can't compete AkoSigh

stable tulip
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I WON THE LOTTERY

lone widget
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rip ur upcoming gacha luck

sturdy scarab
stable tulip
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GA ticket for shina or magical girls gone for good ShunnySob

sturdy scarab
torn thorn
calm flicker
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Me when seeing f2p self claiming

desert sphinx
candid gust
idle rampart
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BRUH I THOUGHT I WAS DOING DAILY INSANE

opaque dagger
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Hell yea, peak gaming. If you have a recording you should post it

tall glacier
rich turret
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Daily torment

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🧎‍♂️

candid gust
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Daily torment

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🧎‍♂️

orchid axle
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Daily lunatic

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candid gust
orchid axle
orchid axle
astral fern
candid gust
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orchid axle
calm flicker
orchid axle
candid gust
candid gust
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i accept double wakamole

astral fern
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I thought it was Dajin again

candid gust
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wrong person

astral fern
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I hate it here

candid gust
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bro thought putton was dajin

astral fern
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My bad

candid gust
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@odd geyser we f2p are here to stay

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this is dajin bro

sturdy scarab
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3 of the biggest whels claim to be f2p, more at 9

astral fern
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I'm not even f2p lol

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I got skanna tix

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Deno paid for me worrysleep

candid gust
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he isn't f2p obvly

dim remnant
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Who's the best student to get in the past event choices? I'm new ty

candid gust
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i won't fall for the bait

candid gust
astral fern
candid gust
dim remnant
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Best place to level up my char? I'm lvl 26 rn ty

candid gust
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You should be worried when you reach level 70-ish

tall glacier
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Share some reports peav

candid gust
dim remnant
tall glacier
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Ive seen your stacks

candid gust
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as high as you can for now

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but only the one you are intended to use a lot to do missions

astral fern
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Oh boy

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New pvp season

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Yesod

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I'll be drained af

candid gust
astral fern
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And I just spent everything on skanna

candid gust
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Hell nah

dim remnant
# candid gust sure

I'm focusing on leveling 8 students now combi of piercing and explo, I'm upgrading aru for the moment is that ok?

astral fern
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Tbf valkyrie mats are free af

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But no credits

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Ggs

astral fern
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Helps that I used jfd purple mats

tall glacier
dim remnant
candid gust
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You are welcome

candid gust
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and tons of resources

astral fern
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How

candid gust
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no not reports

candid gust
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aka save resources

tall glacier
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ive got 455mil

candid gust
astral fern
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I wish lol

tall glacier
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But im gonna burn like 250m on yesod lun

astral fern
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After yesod and pvp hopefully I'll start hoarding

candid gust
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yea i know you are a coming-back player so the resources are sketchy

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I don't need to build many students now

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Only some niches

tall glacier
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the n-word

idle rampart
candid gust
astral fern
candid gust
tall glacier
candid gust
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i saw someone lurking

astral fern
frozen chasm
idle rampart
idle rampart
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iwappilet and skannalet

orchid axle
idle rampart
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my hw used 10 cost rotation

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lmao

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nor like it matter much in geb

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surely

orchid axle
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My home cooking included 10.5

novel timber
orchid axle
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Ue40 seia was nice to get

idle rampart
# novel timber nice, but you still at least own uasuna<a:sensei_think:1181275022141165578>

This Torment Geburah video is for the first run on Global Server. Based on what community said, the first run actually bugged which is not so different from first Geburah run for JP on Torment difficulty. Tho ours is said to be harder, but still easier than the rerun. The positive thing from the bug is that it will only makes small difference fo...

▶ Play video
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I can't imagine doing geburah without asuna yea

sturdy scarab
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uwow

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modern torment self torture is rare

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props to them

daring coral
marble gust
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no iwappi is already torture for me

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cant imagine no uasuna

opaque dagger
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It's a "I can throw more teams at the problem" kinda solution

hollow saddle
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📑 Translated from Japanese

It seems that at the recent Korea event, a local teacher was asked a question about Vina regarding D. Q. Regarding the fact that the Lunatic Vina on the Japanese server was easier than expected, has the development policy changed? A. The development policy regarding Lunatic's difficulty has not changed. This Vina is an exceptional case. This is bulletin board information, so take it with a grain of salt. m.dcinside.com/board/projectmx/17681205

Original text
先日の韓国イベで現地先生がDにビナーに関して質問されたようです。
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︀︀Q.
︀︀日本鯖のLunaticビナーが予想より簡単だった件について開発方針が変わったのか?
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︀︀A.
︀︀Lunaticの難易度に関する開発方針は変わっていない。今回のビナーは例外ケース。
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︀︀掲示板情報のため参考程度に
︀︀m.dcinside.com/board/projectmx/17681205

Quoting でにき🦋⚔️🎀 (@d3n1

opaque dagger
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Having 6 full teams that all last the full 4 minutes

copper surge
marble gust
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it rly isnt as simple as being able to throw more teams by having more units built

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gotta have the experience to know whats the best teams you can even build with the roster

steady prairie
grim finch
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nice feed

steady prairie
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it's like how the game mode was designed

copper surge
# hollow saddle https://fxtwitter.com/d3n1k1/status/2025767836405354589/en

I think some bosses in BA were honest mistakes. I think the devs try their best but sometimes they miss their hand

Tor Binah at launch in JP was too hard (he got nerfed later), Luna Binah is probably a reaction to that and they decided to play it very safe.

I **personally **think a boss should be created aiming for it to be cleared with 4 teams assuming you have the perfect units all maxed and good execution (no need for magic pixel, no need for frame perfect execution), and more if you are improvising or being sloppy.

But if you have a full account with every student at Ue50 and you still need 10 teams, this is masochism. Not everybody will have every student, not everybody will have perfect execution.

If you want to flex your godly gamer(tm) skills aim for top 10 I guess.

opaque dagger
steady prairie
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stop being young

copper surge
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So Binah whale teams with 10 teams probably did not made any friends. The sentiment was "if a whale had to use 10 teams, which chance I have"?

daring coral
rich turret
marble gust
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getting too comfortable with just copying jp hw

grim finch
rich turret
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Not having core units do to mf

marble gust
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try cooking a whole tor roster+ rot urself

copper surge
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Now we have better healing I think a lot of teams are viable

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the key pieces are IMari and Satsuki / GPain, you can do a lot with just the farmables

marble gust
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top 10 binah is still hard

atomic meadow
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Binah is hard

marble gust
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didnt they hit like 2min20s

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try beating that

west perch
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10 teams ue50 on like... goz and peroro

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sure that's masochism

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it's fucking binah dude

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the fact that we don't see 10 teams is an insult

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to us

wintry lark
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his enhance skill is dogshit now

west perch
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Our roster has massively expanded since tor binah

wintry lark
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he wouldve been the hardest

west perch
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and you're expecting 4pan?

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4pan even on binah is a joke

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I would've called it a joke

west perch
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and it's not even a joke now

marble gust
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i mean many people are still stuck at hardcore

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so like

copper surge
west perch
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3 months ago, I would've easily said "4pan on luna binah debut is too easy"

torpid galleon
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they're probably lazy so maybe whatever

west perch
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10 teams was already seen in boat

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also

marble gust
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binah lun would be more funi if it was released last

west perch
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Binah fucking kills most teams anyway???

marble gust
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cus it would be like 6.5 anni meta

west perch
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not every team was a full 3 minute team

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or at least that's the expectation

copper surge
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Again, this is my opinion, you think 10 teams is fine, I am sure some crazy korean out there would want 20 team clears

west perch
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it's not that 10 teams is fine. It's that 10 teams weren't even used

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Not even close

daring coral
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I wanted Luna peroro difficulty for Luna binah

marble gust
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hate binah anyway

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funi raid

daring coral
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but well

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Yeah…

west perch
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We literally got 3 new red tanks to not use ANY of them bro

marble gust
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gpd will be crying if hiero lun is a joke

dim frigate
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Not having to borrow a dps for binah is just objective undertuning, haps

marble gust
west perch
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THREE new red tanks and I expected all of them to be near mandatory

daring coral
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Dev basically said we can’t make binah much harder else it’d be a nightmare and threw in the towel

west perch
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and what the fuck did we get

daring coral
daring coral
marble gust
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hinata wasnt even used in peroro global top team

daring coral
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definitely not what I expected for Luna binah

hollow saddle
west perch
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like hello? We have 8 red tanks.
Why did we not even use 5?

grand fern
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i still can't believe they missed the opportunity to give binah 69m hp

copper surge
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Like I said, this Binah seen to be an overeaction to old JP Binah debut|

Or maybe player feedback showed people are tired of giga hard bosses, who knows

marble gust
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it defo is cus jp server is the sweatest

torn thorn
marble gust
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but still 90% of the playerbase are casuals

west perch
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Here's a compilation of me glazing luna binah

marble gust
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and most of those would prefer hard diffs to be easier anyway

daring coral
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It’s the high difficulty

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It’s meant to be challenging

west perch
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It's not meant for them

grand fern
marble gust
dim frigate
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its all fanfiction anyway when the most obvious answer is they just messed up lol

copper surge
sturdy scarab
odd geyser
sturdy scarab
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uwow its swag

west perch
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Pnoa meru miyu

stark knot
marble gust
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wakamo on yesod "devs messed up"
binah lun 'too easy' "devs messed up"

stark knot
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time to rewatch my debut binah torment clear and think about what couldve been

daring coral
stark knot
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i guess i can update the pull planner now since i clearly dont need d.tsukuyo like i thought

west perch
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fucking SAYANE isn't even used

stark knot
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they gave her the perfect lineup by being a red armor tank that is treated as cover

dim frigate
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yeah devs messing up is a more logical conclusion than "its cause of feedback" lol

stark knot
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but nope

steady prairie
west perch
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NOT USED AronaJoy

marble gust
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dude none of yukari renge whoever the hell dps that isnt shanako isnt used on krkg

marble gust
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why arent you complaining abt krkg dpses

true scroll
sturdy scarab
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first tor binah was everyones special raid ngl

grand fern
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feel like they didn't adjust enough to modern support like bikemari

sturdy scarab
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unless you waited till we were like super broken before trying it

daring coral
sturdy scarab
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oh god

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nonono

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nononono

dim frigate
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first run of greg is still peak BA

sturdy scarab
stark knot
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i still kept my bodythrow teams for that raid saved in my team presets lol

grand fern
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but i like this fire lane change

copper surge
# west perch Maki Pina SAyane

Maki is already used on the other teams
Pina don't do enough damage, and I did no-gacha clears with her. AA unit doing AA unit stuff.
SAyane can't be buffed properly since she is a TS and will also not do enough damage
The last 2 are cope comps, they work, but they are even less impressive than your average no-fest DPS unit

daring coral
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I went from failing indoor tor cuz no ako and built every cc unit
So tor urban is cleared
Now i accidentally cleared Luna hod without investing ckotama
How the tables have turned

west perch
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...and?

daring coral
west perch
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oh so you're saying lunatic is supposed to be easy and accessible for baggers

daring coral
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There’s also the first GA Greg too

west perch
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yeah very healthy

daring coral
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With yellow tor

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Very fun

marble gust
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its been a year since lun debut

west perch
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everything but the best options are bad

marble gust
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also the lun release schedule is horrendous

west perch
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more options are bad

marble gust
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if binah lun was on 4th anni maybe itll be better

west perch
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don't farm farmables since they aren't going to be used anyway hoshinoblindstare

marble gust
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except uneru is already there

daring coral
fleet narwhal
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I was hoping binah luna wouldnt be a 10pan but I also wasn't asking for a torment in disguise

daring coral
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Looks like it’s gonna be 3 pan even without her

west perch
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I'm going to actively discourage everyone here to farm hards next week

daring coral
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Like double Mika + uneru Rio

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Maybe

west perch
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just put all your AP into the event

copper surge
# sturdy scarab top 10 is difficult for completely different reasons compared to tor binah, who ...

At this point, I openly have a different opinion on what "fun" content is
I can do a 10 man clear if I am running less-optimal comps but if the OPTIMAL is 10, I am out.

If the devs sat around, planned and tested the raid and said "they can clear it if they run 10 teams, let's ship it" I think it's bad game design but hey, it's my opinion.

But Id risk to say most people want shorter raids, not longer.

Again, I think the OPTIMAL goal would to be the raid to be cleared with 4 teams using the perfect students because most people wont have the perfect roster and perfect execution.

west perch
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x2 hards are bullshit

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you won't use those units anyway

marble gust
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serinapills

fiery kiln
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noa b50 lets go

amber root
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we all have the choice to fall back to a lower difficulty if we cant clear the debut raid

daring coral
marble gust
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geburah debut was also 2pan lun

daring coral
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But definitely everyone doing 2 team is just torment level of difficulty

novel timber
marble gust
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damn lun too easy?

amber root
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its nice to have a challenge once in awhile

west perch
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I mean most people here clearly prefer speedrunning rather than an actual raid

daring coral
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Also last binah tor is like

west perch
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so it's w/e

daring coral
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2 pan bald

marble gust
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cus most of the ogs left

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newbies cant afford shit to 8pan raids

daring coral
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Going from that to 2 pan Luna definitely does feel meh

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Even with stronger unit

daring coral
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Lun boat hoshinoblindstare

marble gust
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we even got people actively complaining theyre too new to do higher diff raids

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like man

lilac solar
daring coral
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Thats on them then

fleet narwhal
west perch
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It's expected for newbies to be gated

marble gust
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whats bad abt letting them clear binah lun then

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@opaque dagger r u doing binah lun

west perch
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they can

marble gust
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then good

sturdy scarab
# copper surge At this point, I openly have a different opinion on what "fun" content is I can ...

the thing is, people looking to do lun are openly trying to clear challenging content. i'm not looking for long raids anymore, and hell, i stopped doing luns, but i can understand why people trying to push for the hardest content might also want a hard boss to try to crack in interesting ways.

not every boss should be tor binah, but having a couple as a interesting challenge on release is what some people are looking for

marble gust
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lun will be the new tor in 2 years and youll forget about this by then

frail glen
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guys

west perch
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It's not about the newbies' accessibility to said content.

marble gust
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phantasm diff when

frail glen
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maybe the real blue archive is the friends we made along the way

steady prairie
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balls

west perch
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it's about there being no difficulty

dim frigate
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yeah new difficulty soon!!!

west perch
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to the new difficulty

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what

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is the fucking point

lilac solar
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so what comes after lunatic KoyukiStare

sturdy scarab
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normal 2

west perch
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of farming farmables

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resources

frail glen
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Ascendant normal

marble gust
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it is defo easier than other luns but did you even see the more casual people trying to clear it with like 5+ pan

lilac solar
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easy mode pls John Nexon

daring coral
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how bad the game would be if everything is hand held and just cleared with mid effort

west perch
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if NONE of it is put to use

daring coral
marble gust
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or just trying not to copy hw

daring coral
dim frigate
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boss being difficult on one difficulty then being disneyland on the next release has also happened before btw

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not sure why binah is the sky is falling moment

frail glen
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ye

daring coral
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I’m not saying it’s the end of ba competitive leaderboard but

sturdy scarab
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its not, but im just talking about why people might be dissapointed

daring coral
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It’s hoshinozzz

marble gust
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its not like its the first month of lun introducing anyway

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its been a whole year

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why wouldnt lun be easier

frail glen
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I mean

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Binah luna will prob be pretty hard without uneru right?

marble gust
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300 jp lun clearers in this era?

daring coral
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No
Why does it sound as easy as doing torment last time

marble gust
astral fern
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In 2 years we will see Lun 2 mode and now we are back to 10 unit clears

daring coral
frozen chasm
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should just reduce plat spot to only 1

daring coral
marble gust
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one ta per month is ass

west perch
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might as well just say "I'm not farming x2 hards next week because none of them are going to be used"

astral fern
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And then we get lun ga

daring coral
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That’s how fucking easy it is

astral fern
opaque dagger
marble gust
marble gust
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id say its a little bit earlier

frozen chasm
marble gust
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but it eventually will happen

west perch
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there's no point

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fuck farmables

daring coral
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For the difficulty drop

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But granted

west perch
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x2 hards are now a scam

daring coral
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Stat check boss are boring

marble gust
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also again binah was "supposed" to be released last where it would be like late 2027 lmao

west perch
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x3 hards are also a scam

opaque dagger
marble gust
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where lun cutoff would be a walk in the park by then

daring coral
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There aren’t rly much of a good solution to fix stat checks

stable tulip
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farmable slander? hoshinoblindstare

daring coral
frozen chasm
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its funny we cooked binah to be the most diabolical luna, but then they dropped this

frail glen
# frozen chasm should just reduce plat spot to only 1

what about introducing an opening scene that display your rank everytime you log in
like after the voice queue "blue archive"
It just displays your raid rank along side the title card

ARUJI-DONO! You are at Gold rank 11,000!

KoyukiStare

astral fern
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I farm hoshino iori hibiki and 1-2 units I still use, rest I won't really farm until I finish at least 1 of them to ue50 ReisaDerp

west perch
marble gust
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gpd when the free unit isnt top meta

astral fern
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I think I should farm Serina next

marble gust
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we got people not farming hinata hibiki

round kayak
astral fern
stable tulip
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oh I was about to drop hinata lol

round kayak
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I haven't started farming hinata at all lmao

west perch
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we went from
"Why farm iori when I have mika" to
"Why farm Aru mutsuki when i have dhina" to
"why farm izuna when i have troko" to
"why farm hinata when i have aaris"

astral fern
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I don't farm hinata lol

stable tulip
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she's almost 4 stars and I don't want to farm hinata

marble gust
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if you can afford the gacha units sure

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not like actually "sure" but

west perch
marble gust
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whatever you can if ur whale and own all the better alternatives

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and is not doing lun

daring coral
astral fern
daring coral
astral fern
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I get t10 daily now

frail glen
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maybe the real pvp is the hard mode farming we did along the way

astral fern
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Fucking this

marble gust
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lmao

astral fern
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I went from 3* hosh to ue40 hosh in 1 pvp season

marble gust
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istg hard nodes are more rng than pvp

stable tulip
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I mean the daily for 3 hards exists so I'll never really stop once I finish my collection ReisaDerp but I don't care for farmables