💬gameplay-discussion

[pliant bluff]

dead gpd hour

[hallow plank]

Nexon is so considerate.
Giving JP a Luna cutoff to celebrate the Lunar New Year.

[pastel mortar]

From normal to luna cutoff

Truly a wonder

[candid gust]

time flies fast

[simple igloo]

woah

japan too advanced

can i still plat if i dont play the raid

[odd geyser]

[fleet narwhal]

i wouldnt call this too advanced

[simple igloo]

wrong reply

[simple igloo]

they literally went from normal cutoff to luna cutoff

thats literally the most advanced progression in ba history

[simple igloo]

do i need ue kiki shagi rio sseia akane

[odd geyser]

ue akane is literally f2p

[simple igloo]

im p2w so i dont ue akane

[steady prairie]

i can't believe im actually gonna have to do this raid with a kokona borrow....

[odd geyser]

see that fuyu banner? get pulling meta slave

[steady prairie]

kokona borrow in binah out of all places

[simple igloo]

should have pulled takane

[odd geyser]

[simple igloo]

holy f2p team

[wicked parcel]

I might drop below 5k by the time it ends 😭
I was at 3.5k

[shrewd mirage]

woah himari is cute

[wicked parcel]

Cursed and funny

😭

[odd geyser]

alright guys do you think i can upscore binah

[simple igloo]

just be worrying anything

[steady prairie]

[wicked parcel]

Do you want to borrow my mari

[calm flicker]

Lun cutoff surely

[steady prairie]

i believe mari dies

[shrewd mirage]

is takane or toki seeing any use

[odd geyser]

I had toki on a bodythrow team but uh

[wicked parcel]

They're useless

[odd geyser]

I need to get the 2pan or gold atp

[fleet narwhal]

#💬gameplay-discussion message

[wicked parcel]

Almost misread it as body pillow..

[simple igloo]

next jp jfd :

[fleet narwhal]

its guaranteed at this point

[shrewd mirage]

luna cutoff..?

[calm flicker]

Binah was very undertuned

[shrewd mirage]

..

thats wild

[steady prairie]

i recall someone saying

binah tor 2023 does more damage than binah lun 2026

[shrewd mirage]

thought at least hod was still easier

[steady prairie]

[prime geyser]

[calm flicker]

50m HP, no stab/acc debuff

[worldly sun]

Just use Imari, shes always better than kokona right

[steady prairie]

Fine lemme cook

[calm flicker]

Basically Wakaboat P1 without CC

[prime geyser]

Lun binah free

[steady prairie]

[prime geyser]

My idol

Prostark

[calm flicker]

Fund me UE4 Mika and UNeru

[prime geyser]

[worldly sun]

Just select the coconut starksama

[steady prairie]

no

[prime geyser]

Hare

[tall glacier]

yay

[prime geyser]

Hare mika mald eva mika in a nutshell

[steady prairie]

id rather buy arknights skin than ba selector

[prime geyser]

So

Whale

[calm flicker]

Whelstark

[prime geyser]

Kaijustark

[steady prairie]

people calling me whel don't know how arknights skin work smhsmh

[prime geyser]

Whelstark

[steady prairie]

anw uh

do i really have to do lun geb again

or i should slack tor

[round kayak]

go do luna pshm

[steady prairie]

ok tomorrow

im slacking tor today

[prime geyser]

Propropro

I kneel

[simple igloo]

cool

[stuck valley]

when is even a reasonable time to AP refresh

[fallen scroll]

during events that give student elephs for clearing stages/minigames

[pure vessel]

when I feel like it

[stuck valley]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-spy-magnifying-glass-ifunny-black-dude-astonishing-gif-14375730328686511707

rich

[marble gust]

what artifact hanako/shanako use

[steady prairie]

not haniwa

[fallen scroll]

for lb or skills

[marble gust]

yea kinda funi it isnt haniwa

[tall glacier]

[marble gust]

i thought lb any student uses the lower rarity of their skills artifacts

[tall glacier]

its been some time since ive seen 3 digit...

[fallen scroll]

do they

[steady prairie]

nah, the higher ones

[worldly sun]

It’s whatever their purple artifact is

[fallen scroll]

the wolfseggs and the yellow bricc thing

[marble gust]

the fuc

[fallen scroll]

[worldly sun]

Someone was sweeping the wrong hilo halo stage

[covert spoke]

3x daily and 6x during good events/welfare farms

[stuck valley]

doesn't look so bad

I don't have to skip m.reisa

yay

[torn thorn]

600???????????

[worldly sun]

You don’t need to 600 fest

[steady prairie]

wtf 600

[worldly sun]

But you should 200 on 100 free

[marble gust]

i swept stage 12

[torn thorn]

[covert spoke]

600 fest is fine

including the free 100

[worldly sun]

I meant the minigame

[fallen scroll]

i think he doesnt have either kuroko or boshi

[stuck valley]

I don't have boshino

[marble gust]

stage 4

[stuck valley]

or kuro

[marble gust]

aether

[fallen scroll]

[steady prairie]

400 for 3 should be fine then you can ditch kuroko

[marble gust]

[fallen scroll]

dried

[steady prairie]

fr

[stuck valley]

100 for pre-fest?

[worldly sun]

This why you got no Colgate for mreisa

[stuck valley]

worth?

[worldly sun]

Uh yes

[marble gust]

idfk why i got 0 ngl

[worldly sun]

It’s half off spark and you want himari

[steady prairie]

tbh for you maybe not

[fallen scroll]

never get no reisa from the gas station

[steady prairie]

just guarantee himari

and adjust accordingly if you get her

[worldly sun]

You can leave if you get her in free but you don’t want to skip

[stuck valley]

ok

[covert spoke]

400 fest + get bhimari

is fine plan

[pliant kelp]

reisa gaming

[worldly sun]

That also puts you in full green

[stuck valley]

I still need boshino tho

do I?

[covert spoke]

yes

[worldly sun]

400 should get you 3-4+ rateups

[covert spoke]

400 on fest with no rate up is unlikely

[worldly sun]

It’s very unlucky if you have to leave with only kei bosh

[stuck valley]

Plus I have 2 guide tasks left and half unfinished story

should be fine

[worldly sun]

Most like is all 4, moderately unlucky is only 3

[fallen scroll]

idk s.nagi refused to show up on 600

[worldly sun]

That doesn’t disprove the statistic

[stuck valley]

I whel kisaki to save a spark

[fallen scroll]

statistics aint anything if ur luck is godly or ass

[stuck valley]

[worldly sun]

Luck isn’t real

It’s all numbers

[candid gust]

mika gaming

[stuck valley]

hypothetically if I get a student so late, like 150+ should I just spark

hypothetically

[worldly sun]

Usually yes

But depends on the other banner unit and if those 50 pulls make a difference somewhere else

[stuck valley]

sure

[worldly sun]

But usually 150+ pulls you want to be thinking about completing

[torn thorn]

[stuck valley]

I think I wouldn't spark 5 in a row

[worldly sun]

<100 you probably want to leave unless you would solo pull the other unit

[stuck valley]

at least I have to be lucky sometimes

rite?

:clueless:

[round kayak]

whel whel whel whel whel whel whel whel

[fallen scroll]

wait why did durg get a trex on that take

[worldly sun]

Just ask yourself “is <x pulls to spark> worth other unit”

[odd geyser]

[worldly sun]

When everything is 🦖, nothing is

[round kayak]

~~I sparked reijo before and I can say it was 100% worth it ~~

[fallen scroll]

yeah one has to have the most awful luck known to man to spark 5 times in a row

[odd geyser]

[round kayak]

luna cutoff in 2026

[worldly sun]

Also as dupes are not super important in this game you basically always spark a new character even if you don’t think you will use them much

[stuck valley]

pray

[worldly sun]

But again can depend

[fallen scroll]

binah has the easiest luna atm

[stuck valley]

dupes aren't that important I see

I thought dupes are cool

[worldly sun]

Cos you only need 1 copy to be able to max them and most units don’t need stars to function well

[stuck valley]

but we have ligmas

[worldly sun]

Dupes just get you a bit closer without spending ligma

[round kayak]

dupes are cool when you properly planned thier uses

[fallen scroll]

yeah u dont need to UE most of the support for casual clears

[worldly sun]

But you get more out of having a wider roster than a few with a couple extra stars

[stuck valley]

wait the 20$ choice ticket also have x10 pulls

im rich

[worldly sun]

We’re rich

[stuck valley]

but should I just get Kisaki now or wait until much much later

after all I have budget kisaki rn

seia

sseia

[round kayak]

ehh kisaki has cost regen

[worldly sun]

You should probably select kisaki now

You will use her in every raid from now after geb

[round kayak]

are you pulling on magicals?

[stuck valley]

mreisa yeah

[round kayak]

might as well wait it out after you did all your pulls on magicals and see if she pops up

[stuck valley]

that puts me in about almost 30k red

[worldly sun]

You could wait but it means you won’t have kisaki for srkr

[round kayak]

bro what

[stuck valley]

srkr?

[round kayak]

what about fest

[fallen scroll]

let him slacx ins

[round kayak]

[fallen scroll]

ShiroKuro

[worldly sun]

Shiro and Kuro, next ga boss

[stuck valley]

What do they do

[fallen scroll]

heals are cut down by 50~80% depending on the diff u are on, u need constant repos to keep ur team alive

[stuck valley]

thats after fest

[fallen scroll]

and as well as utilize the usage of covers

[worldly sun]

Check raid guide

[odd geyser]

[stuck valley]

I’ll check that when ga comes

I want to clear ins so much

[worldly sun]

We’ll have jfd this coming week then srkr week after

[marble gust]

ill prolly slacc both urban hiero and srkr

[covert spoke]

i wouldnt rec using selector at all

til post fest

[stuck valley]

why

[worldly sun]

The chance you spook is quite low

[covert spoke]

ur gonna be stuck gold anyways

[stuck valley]

tru dat

[worldly sun]

And that’s 4 more months of kisakilet

[stuck valley]

kisakiles

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[covert spoke]

even with kisaki ur not gonna plat, if ur planning 400 fest its not crazy to wait

[stuck valley]

but why after fes though

couldn’t I just get er now

[round kayak]

cause fes has higher 3* rates

[stuck valley]

You’re saying I could at least spook her and save 20$?

rite

[round kayak]

yes

[worldly sun]

Plat is still gonna be triple ins

So not that out of reach

[covert spoke]

well u get to selector like daru

[round kayak]

dont want to use your 20$ and spook her the next banner

[torn thorn]

[covert spoke]

and yes its out of reach

[stuck valley]

yeah

makes sense

[covert spoke]

triple struggle ins is not plat

[stuck valley]

is binah ins easy?

[round kayak]

selectored iwak and I havent spooked her ever since

[stuck valley]

binah low hp

[round kayak]

punching bag diff

[marble gust]

ins hp got buffed but no more stab debuffs

[covert spoke]

sparked kisaki and next 10 pull on prefest spooked her

[round kayak]

sounds like my nykayoko

[marble gust]

ngl even rainstorm gonna do lun

[round kayak]

had to skip tyuuka for her

[worldly sun]

Anecdotal evidence

[covert spoke]

sometimes unlucky wcyd

[grim finch]

not guitar cloud?

[stuck valley]

I’d cry about it

[covert spoke]

eh it was the right decision

[marble gust]

rly living rent free in yalls head lol

[covert spoke]

but banners give u less time to decide than selector

[round kayak]

tf is guitar cloud

[torn thorn]

I pull :subvitals: and spook on next banner

[stuck valley]

yeah I have sseia right now she could be fine as an EX buffer

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[stuck valley]

plus she heals

[covert spoke]

oh yeah u def wait then

[round kayak]

just use himari and you'll be fine

[stuck valley]

best borrow on bina?

[lone widget]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-blue-archive-michiru-michiru-michiru-dress-iris-out-gif-284042799074772529

[covert spoke]

mika probably

[stuck valley]

hold on if I pay monthly+half monthly I can green postfest

[lone widget]

maybe

[tall glacier]

[lone widget]

it's nice

to have those

[covert spoke]

fest has the 8k packs etc reset

[lone widget]

[round kayak]

:denosaur: teach this man the ways of wheling

[lone widget]

imma buy 1 6600 after mgirls or dmichi probably

[stuck valley]

I wouldn’t touch that until I have second or third job

[round kayak]

[lone widget]

or maybe 2

[lone widget]

monthlies re like 10$/month so

it's aint too bad

esp if u re single

[stuck valley]

Whats next on selector if I spook kisaki

which is very unlikely

[lone widget]

kisaki

there's no if

[round kayak]

what if there is if

[stuck valley]

4* kisaki

wow

[round kayak]

[covert spoke]

theres an argument to be made to not selector kisaki too

[lone widget]

depends on ur pyro pretty much

[stuck valley]

where

[round kayak]

her banner is in the next few months

[lone widget]

selector kiki gonna save u 24k

[round kayak]

[covert spoke]

and see how tyuuka banner goes

[lone widget]

but u arent getting 4*

[stuck valley]

between m.reisa s.hoshino and t.yuuka which 2 do I choose

Am I missing out on t.yuuka

[polar orbit]

s.hoshino is top prio if you dont have her

[round kayak]

Ehhh you aren't entirely bricked without tyuuka

[stuck valley]

recollection in a few months

[grim finch]

shosh then tyuuka

[round kayak]

just some inconvenience on a few raids and lineups

[stuck valley]

do yall think m.reisa is a skip though

[grim finch]

if u are a coper u dont need anyone

[polar orbit]

you said you dont have kisaki yet, so it's actually pretty beneficial for you to just roll the kisaki.tyuuka banner

save your selector

[round kayak]

It's highly dependent on one's goals and current state of roster

[polar orbit]

there's no point in selectoring kisaki if you're just gonna roll tyuuka anyway

But if you are going to selector kisaki, then you roll mreisa

[round kayak]

Imma pull on mreisa cause I don't have a comfy HOT healer

[grim finch]

hot

[polar orbit]

she's not that hot

[obsidian heath]

shiggy is more hot

[thick bridge]

Guys, can anyone give me some help?

[round kayak]

Cutely hot

[stuck valley]

https://tenor.com/view/reisa-brainrot-sorry-you're-not-a-sigma-blue-archi-gif-11950543266386227002

[lone widget]

i roll her cuzz goddamn oshiggy wont spook

[grim finch]

shig is hot on tatami

[lone widget]

and i need a hot healer for my roster

[atomic arrow]

suh

[round kayak]

when your stoat is fucking missing for a year now

[tall glacier]

Oshiggy spooked me but im still thinking about mreisa

[round kayak]

[tall glacier]

[stuck valley]

What does Boshino even do why unc have 2 version on schaledb

[fresh edge]

[thick bridge]

i wanted to build a good team with azusa as my main carry, which students go well with her

[tall glacier]

I have to pick 2 out of 3 from:
Reisa mine
Mreisa
Byuzu

[grim finch]

this game doesnt work like that

[tall glacier]

[atomic arrow]

for what, missions? raid?

[thick bridge]

im pretty new on the game

[grim finch]

if waifu purpose, sure use her

if not, approach differently

[round kayak]

Tank form - repo, yellow tank, def down debuff, cover
Atk form - Def ignore, Aoe, decent sub - DPS for blue set

As for the usecases

[stuck valley]

shes red atk she can carry early red content

[tall glacier]

As much as i like azusa, she has two uses:
Basic def shred (other free units like maki do it too)
Red st dps (easily replacable and mogged by dhina)

[round kayak]

Go check raid guide

[torn thorn]

Not really how this game works

[lone widget]

azoo for lun geb

[spice basin]

Btw how do you have Azusa when you're still new

[stuck valley]

I like when azoosa whole ult is blocked by a cover/miss

spook

or

archie

[tall glacier]

[atomic arrow]

or money

[stuck valley]

I have azusa for some reason I don’t remember

[lone widget]

gacha

[spice basin]

Could be spook from archive I guess

[stuck valley]

I’m putting cherino next on my archive, already had most of the good things there

[tall glacier]

Azusa was the first banner i pulled on like 4 years ago?

[stuck valley]

but not normal cherino

[tall glacier]

[atomic arrow]

based

[tall glacier]

Its been that long

👴

[stuck valley]

unc

me when I spark all 5

[loud knoll]

Cherino becomes farmable soon (no idea actually when)

[stuck valley]

what farmables

what does it mean

elpeh?

[covert spoke]

yes..

[stuck valley]

but you have to have her before being able to farm rite?

[loud knoll]

you get her from hard mission (?) for free. But it is the case for most of archive banner already

[stuck valley]

or can you unlock her with eleph

oh so thats how it works

dam

[atomic arrow]

yeh, just not with limiteds/welfare

[spice basin]

Every student can be exchanged with their elephs except limited/fest

[stuck valley]

when you unlock she’s gonna be 3* rite

[atomic arrow]

yeh

[spice basin]

Yea

[stuck valley]

mreisa next 2 weeks

[atomic arrow]

[stuck valley]

also shouldn’t azusa uses Arius bluray

[lone widget]

shes trinity

[stuck valley]

shes trinity now

I have so much arius blu rays

[spice basin]

Ask the rabbit squad where are their Blu-rays

[lone widget]

her origin is arius but debut as trinity

[atomic arrow]

free fodder

[stuck valley]

just use it all on S.atsuko

mmmm

[atomic arrow]

also based

[lone widget]

[spice basin]

S.atsuko my only Arius student anyway

[stuck valley]

someone said something about atk buff rules can I have it back

[marble gust]

gpi

https://discordapp.com/channels/890474004094263357/905229231741628436/1368156160389287967

[thick bridge]

i pulled her randomly

i have all my waifus already, im pretty happy with my students

[stuck valley]

does NY Izumi aura stack on S.Kirino then

[marble gust]

no

[stuck valley]

atk% buff rule something something

[marble gust]

theyre both aura + ex

[marble gust]

wait is nyizumi from ex

[stuck valley]

yeah

[marble gust]

then they dont

[stuck valley]

what about kotama

[marble gust]

shes targetted

stacks

aura is buff remains active only when student stands in a certain area during the period of time

kotama doesnt care

[stuck valley]

S.Hoshino aura?

[marble gust]

yes shes aura

if you walk out of the water u lose the buff

[stuck valley]

does it stack with ny izumi then

[marble gust]

no?

[stuck valley]

[marble gust]

identical buffs doesnt stack

[stuck valley]

so you can only have 1 aura

sad

[marble gust]

acari is aura but its from her enh

so she stacks

[stuck valley]

I guess ex buff stacks with atk buff?

[marble gust]

yes ofc

completely different dmg buff

[stuck valley]

does 2 targeted atk buff stacks

[marble gust]

if its from ex then no

buffs must be different in some kind of way

to stack

[stuck valley]

Ako is crit and crit dmg so maybe it stacks with anything

[marble gust]

what

[stuck valley]

ako

[marble gust]

those 2 are different buffs anyway

her cdmg doesnt stack with like daru

[stuck valley]

juat stack smh

[hallow plank]

They stack.

[obsidian heath]

enhanced aura

skirino is ex aura

[hallow plank]

Not from EX.
It's from passive.

[stuck valley]

oh rite

augh

[covert spoke]

no

you are in fact incorrect arch

they stole her lunch

[midnight river]

[tall glacier]

being junko is suffering...

[tidal tree]

A little over a day left... Please hold

[wide basin]

Wtf yuzutrend is down om

[obsidian heath]

19892

[fleet narwhal]

dont they have 2 more days ?

[obsidian heath]

almost 2 days yeah

[fleet narwhal]

ye its guaranteed cutoff,

never would I have expected binah to be the first one

[obsidian heath]

no sign of slowing down

[dim frigate]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G6oXqzwWsAA28TP.gif

[marble gust]

dont have her anyway

[obsidian heath]

but you will have msreisa who has the same thing

[covert spoke]

☝️

not the same

we dont know why

[brave totem]

[covert spoke]

well her basic crit aura is a bit of an anomaly

[simple igloo]

they already on .219

[polar orbit]

why fuyu

[simple igloo]

stronkger akane

[odd geyser]

the real question is why not double skanna

[polar orbit]

skanna gives .7% more def down

and has red armor

[simple igloo]

wait what

[odd geyser]

I'm guessing Fuyu's basic actually matters if it hits both Mika and Maki tho

[dim frigate]

attack speed for maki/mika?

ye

[polar orbit]

interesting

ohh cause it is a weird groggy set up right

[odd geyser]

especially if it messes with Maki's basic timing favorably

[polar orbit]

so the atspd probably matters a ton

dang

[loud knoll]

How teams like that function? Does kok just die at the beginning?

[odd geyser]

what difficulty

[loud knoll]

torment

[odd geyser]

probably

[loud knoll]

there are luna ones with kok too

[tall glacier]

Yeap tried that, kok just gets nuked

[odd geyser]

luna kok uses mari to keep her alive

[tall glacier]

Pretty much finisher

[odd geyser]

ukarin team = finisher anyway

[polar orbit]

ig they kill in like 1 ex

[opaque dagger]

It's probably a 30s clear ye

[loud knoll]

don't see anyone to keep kok alive e.g. here

[pure vessel]

yeah prolly a <10m hp cleanup team

[queen plank]

wait.. its below 3?

[polar orbit]

it's been below 3 for a few days

lel

[queen plank]

can i check

yuzutrend

smth

idk

[polar orbit]

you can, but sometimes the site doesnt load

[queen plank]

hmmm

is there a wapan

[opaque dagger]

That is Yuzutrends

[pure vessel]

poor luna binah

[opaque dagger]

No

[queen plank]

just for fun

[polar orbit]

probably not doable yet

give powercreep a little more time

[opaque dagger]

Maybe Neru School could 1 team idk, but no one has tried it

[queen plank]

so hwo does the pierce eff buff work

[queen plank]

theoretically yes

[polar orbit]

binah deals more yellow damage

same as any other piercing buff

[queen plank]

wait

[polar orbit]

waiting

[queen plank]

wait a damn minute

wtf

how

[polar orbit]

wydmhow

[queen plank]

i thought

[opaque dagger]

You thought you're the only one who gets Eff buffs?

[queen plank]

binah gets less acc and dmg from cover

[queen plank]

yes?

[polar orbit]

peroro has mystic eff...

[opaque dagger]

You know Pelolo and Geb both have it too

[queen plank]

yea

[polar orbit]

[opaque dagger]

So why would it be strange if Nexon gave Binah that too

[calm flicker]

Shows him Peroro 200%

[odd geyser]

[queen plank]

i saw it

and then proceed to ignore it

cuz i have natsus

[opaque dagger]

200% is only Luna, no?

[queen plank]

still beat ins b4 atg

[opaque dagger]

Tor should be 50% iirc

[queen plank]

wait

oh

[odd geyser]

hoshino is responsible for most of the bosses having color effectiveness built in

[queen plank]

[calm flicker]

Tor- was 50% eff

[queen plank]

which one?

[polar orbit]

[calm flicker]

Lun 200% fixed

Along with

Reworked laser mech

[opaque dagger]

Only Tor, Ins- has nothing

[queen plank]

so binah deals 50% less dmg

to cover

[odd geyser]

shoshino surviving in ins peroro is the reason why blue effectiveness got added
boshi surviving in tor binah is why yellow effectiveness got added

[queen plank]

and 50% yellow eff buff

[calm flicker]

Wait til Srkr

[queen plank]

mf

[calm flicker]

They will add sth to anti BHosh

[queen plank]

its rlly a survival mald

[calm flicker]

[opaque dagger]

I think people still got Boshi to survive Luna Binah

[odd geyser]

eh, I'm less certain about that one since they went out of their way to make her work in torment

[queen plank]

but

smth doesnt make sense

[calm flicker]

Lun wise, kinda doubtful

[opaque dagger]

Nah, they will kill off Boshi for Luna Shirokuro

[queen plank]

how was mika able to deal 5m in 18m hp

[opaque dagger]

Just to force you to use real covers for once

[odd geyser]

but yellow effectiveness is a way to buff srkr in a way to be anti boshi while still allowing shimiko

[calm flicker]

The Binah rework appears to serve their purpose of no BHosh

[odd geyser]

bro srkr is bugged in a way where Boshi/DTsukuyo is the only real option atm

[polar orbit]

hopefully i'll get to do solid attempts against luna binah. I can't wait to check the f2p clears near the bottom

[calm flicker]

Repo strat

Just

[queen plank]

cant wait for one pan lunatic

[opaque dagger]

But I got Mimori Swimsuit to work in Tor

[calm flicker]

Inconsistent

[odd geyser]

how long ago?

[loud knoll]

is there any advantage using bosh instead of normal cover in shiro though?
like in binah she shreds def

[queen plank]

[opaque dagger]

The very last one

[polar orbit]

this is probbaly why they aren't rerunning gregorius

[queen plank]

is it possible tho

smisaki

and nagi

[odd geyser]

that was purple torment with repos right?

[polar orbit]

it's guarnateed

[calm flicker]

With a cracked SMisaki yes

[queen plank]

holy shit

[opaque dagger]

I ran both repo and cover

[queen plank]

1.25 billion hp btw

[opaque dagger]

Cos I had no buffers

[queen plank]

largest hp pool

[polar orbit]

s.misaki does 20% more damage than minori AND consumes 1 less cost per ex

[queen plank]

gets wanpan

[queen plank]

yea bros gone

[odd geyser]

blue torment without AAris, srkr tor is currently kinda doomed without boshi

[queen plank]

wait how muh hp left

for minori lun

[polar orbit]

minori can do 900m if pushed to her limit

[queen plank]

ah

[opaque dagger]

I mean, you are forced to 2 team it, no other option

[queen plank]

so misaki can land one more hit

and the extra 20%

[odd geyser]

I had to 3pan

with boshi

[polar orbit]

idk about 1 more hit lol

[opaque dagger]

Cover def works, I had no issues with that

My problem in the last Shirokuro was lack of buffer/cost recovery

So I only cleared Shiro in 4 mins

[opaque dagger]

And I had absolutely nothing to deal with Kuro

[polar orbit]

isn't the biggest issue that most cover takes up a special slot

[odd geyser]

you're down 2 slots running both cover and repos

and using your repos before kuro is kinda 💀

[opaque dagger]

You make it sound like I had 4 buffers to run

Or a 2nd DPS

[queen plank]

hmm

[opaque dagger]

5 months ago during Shirokuro I was like, level 80 I think

I just played Tor Shiro for practice

[loud knoll]

wait, that thing was purple, not blue

blue was like year ago

[odd geyser]

that's fundamentally the problem for what I'm trying to say

It is possible to beat shiro with regular cover sure

but you waste so many resources that you need later in the raid doing it

[opaque dagger]

I mean, there are 4 cover students

Or was it 5

You got Shimiko, Shizuko, Mimori Swimsuit, Kirino Swimsuit

[odd geyser]

using repos p1 is the problem, not the cover student

[sonic crater]

repos p1 for torment is

ass

like

top tier ass

[opaque dagger]

Do I have a choice lmao

[odd geyser]

we used to use the cover students themselfs as repos

[opaque dagger]

People still do that, ofc

[loud knoll]

purple was just 1 pan with t.yuuka and shupos

[opaque dagger]

But like, you also have multiple repo options

Yuuka Track, Shizuko Swimsuit, Mimori

[odd geyser]

the yellow bomb now knocks them out of the cover which didn't used to happen

which kills a ton of strats

[opaque dagger]

Fastest runs for the next 2 Shirokuros are still Boshi repo

[opaque dagger]

Oh, your DPS dies off a cliff without Kisaki

[polar orbit]

i wanna die off a cliff

[loud knoll]

Blue torment was so long ago i honestly have no idea how hard it is to kill. Apparently harder than purple

[opaque dagger]

Blue is awful, but Purple also isn't easy

[tall glacier]

Kuroko was kinda squishy p2

[opaque dagger]

This is from JP S27. There are literally 0 1 team clears without Kisaki

[loud knoll]

~~blue insane was some 50 sec brainrot ~~

[odd geyser]

now imagine urban where wakamo and kuroko both have worse mood

[old rose]

new response for anyone wanting to learn pinball

[odd geyser]

[tall glacier]

[polar orbit]

[untold tusk]

How to pinball?

[opaque dagger]

I think Red I can still do something

Because Hina Dress is just broken

But I dunno wtf I'm gonna do on Purple

[polar orbit]

as the best pinballer in GPD, i must say that it's both not that bad and absolutely miserable. Call it Schrodinger's Repos

[loud knoll]

Having no Kisaki is pretty bad, avoid when possible

[queen plank]

i wonder how will cheesed lun look like

or r the mobs too bs

from the stats

[polar orbit]

pinball in insane geburah is actually not bad at all though, there's litearlly just 1

anyone can do it

[opaque dagger]

At this point, Niya coping is almost my entire raid gameplay identity

[tall glacier]

Imagine shanako can't actually ohko the mobs now

[queen plank]

shit

[opaque dagger]

She probably still can, but needs like, 3 buffs

[queen plank]

chare s nagi kiki

or rio s nagi sseia

[odd geyser]

they're gonna add the opposite of bhimari/ario's debuff

we're gonna see resist buff

[sonic crater]

u know it would be funny if they didnt

[loud knoll]

I had iwak as the only cost regen for pretty long time myself

[queen plank]

resist buff

BRUHH

im just gon

[odd geyser]

after seeing binah, its making me think they're gonna forgor

[queen plank]

weeee

[opaque dagger]

She is miles better than Niya

[sonic crater]

ikr

[opaque dagger]

She's not a Kisaki or Himari, but she's still much better

[odd geyser]

I'd really rather a resist buff then killing off the red dps too

[orchid axle]

Hi balders

[odd geyser]

resist buff is also generic enough to work for future GA

[sonic crater]

the proper manner would be shanako being unusable but i dont trust them about that

lol

oh also makoto check (please no)

[orchid axle]

Hey no mirror

:(

[sonic crater]

do chesed lun after we get makoto 2nd rerun

!!!!

[odd geyser]

makoto would be implicitly checked by hp bloat tbf

[orchid axle]

I even keep forgetting my raid..

[odd geyser]

but they might need to buff goliath

[sonic crater]

yeah if it'ts a hard double mika check then makoto would be significantly important

[queen plank]

wait makoto

[orchid axle]

@polar orbit how to spook wappi

[polar orbit]

you don't

[tall glacier]

[polar orbit]

i pulled for her

[orchid axle]

[odd geyser]

they might need to add more waves to p1 tho

[feral jetty]

moe found dead in a ditch (again)

[queen plank]

thought ppl use.nonomi

cherino

or s hanako

[orchid axle]

Why is jebaitrah so p2w

[queen plank]

somehow

[opaque dagger]

I mean, it will end up being something like "Hanako Swimsuit with Kisaki + Hare Camp + Nagi Swimsuit clears mobs, so you can make a 1 team with that + DPS + tank and do 2 cycle without needing groggy setup"

[orchid axle]

Whatever I'm grabbing wappi and skip everything..

[polar orbit]

get idol mari first...

[queen plank]

i have 400 pulls

[orchid axle]

Already have since first banner

[queen plank]

idk if i can save enough for fest

[feral jetty]

i'm thinking we might get chesed right after binah

[opaque dagger]

Anyway, Chesed is like Binah

[feral jetty]

they might just throw decagrammaton at us because of story

[opaque dagger]

The Luna is either too free or too impossible

No in-between

[orchid axle]

I own ue40 imari btw

[queen plank]

too impossible?

yesod?

[polar orbit]

it's quite silly how 70% of our yellow mobbers have red armor

[queen plank]

wakaboat

[polar orbit]

including the 2 new ones

[queen plank]

uhhh

[opaque dagger]

You can thank Tiph for that

[orchid axle]

Our blue armor yellow aoe can't aim

[queen plank]

who else

hmmm

[opaque dagger]

Nonomi is Red, Momoi is also Red

[polar orbit]

cherino is red

[loud knoll]

meeka also red armor, never been issue in chesed

worst case bring actual tank and your mobbers never will be hit period

[orchid axle]

I deploy... WHOLE KIVOTOS

[opaque dagger]

P1 Room 2 moment

[feral jetty]

that's because most of the striker chesed units they made were from before they actually knew what they were doing

and then they decided to just stop making striker chesed units forever

[covert spoke]

@mint sapphire HEALP

[orchid axle]

<@&897693925127630909>

[covert spoke]

HELP

HELP

[queen plank]

@atomic forge

[covert spoke]

im about TO CLICK

[mint sapphire]

?ban 1093831801564299344 scam

[serene cape]

bukanhafizi was banned. | scam

[loud knoll]

free things free things

[mystic estuary]

Blud literally changed to check other server 💀

And this happens

[pale fractal]

luna cutoff has been hit

[queen plank]

holy shit

[orchid axle]

Where

[true scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/why-do-mods-keep-banning-the-nice-people-giving-money-anime-blue-archive-kuromi-serika-gif-15734460558170966986

[opaque dagger]

Let's also not forget that 70% (or more of them) are 5 cost+, so the 2 cost water hose that self redraws outperforms them

[queen plank]

we r in the endgame now

[orchid axle]

WHAT

[polar orbit]

@mint sapphire another

[queen plank]

bruh

[mint sapphire]

?ban 971268513153040426 scam

[serene cape]

2ar_isnoob was banned. | scam

[orchid axle]

Why did another just SPAWN

[proven dove]

Good opportunity to release a fes yellow aoe :p

[polar orbit]

and ny aru bond gear

[queen plank]

the 7 cold alt accounts:

[orchid axle]

The seven deadly alts

[queen plank]

crypto

[feral jetty]

maybe it's happening because we were talking about chesed

[queen plank]

would be fine

ig

[feral jetty]

maybe the real mobbers were the moderators all along

[queen plank]

didnt knwo chesed started making scambots

[feral jetty]

i cast joexyz's EX skill

[opaque dagger]

Also, another actual concern I guess is hitcount. Nonomi has 2 hits, if she misses one (or if no crit and she doesn't one tap) then you are left with a bunch of Sweepers

[queen plank]

ban

[proven dove]

Tbh bhimari's kit should have been released after luna binah, that way the raid would've seemed a bit difficult :p

[polar orbit]

you cast your joEXyz skill

[copper crescent]

no we gotta get luna cutoff

for the memes

[feral jetty]

i still don't think it would've been that hard

[copper crescent]

yeah

[proven dove]

Yeah I know

[copper crescent]

bhimarilet clears are everywhere too

[opaque dagger]

Just make it 8-9k Def, 100m HP, 40k Atk like what everyone anticipated and then you would have a somewhat difficult raid

[loud knoll]

what's the difference where exactly is cut off, if it still all the same people?

[feral jetty]

this clownery is going down in history

very first run

and already luna cutoff

[proven dove]

This would've been too difficult :p

[copper crescent]

I think that'd be harder than peroro but that's how binah is

[opaque dagger]

Well, Binah is in the category of "this is either too free or too impossible" bosses

[magic reef]

binah isnt a real raid

it's ok

[copper crescent]

at least binah will have good lifespan

[young lotus]

Lunatic cutoff

[feral jetty]

yeah binah is like

because of how its mechanics work you can't really find an inbetween between impossible and free

[opaque dagger]

Honestly, Chesed is also under that category

[feral jetty]

it's a stat check raid

[opaque dagger]

Pelolo is in that category purely because of Boshi

[feral jetty]

if your stats are weaker it's hard, if your stats are stronger it's free

[copper crescent]

no, I think the mechanic change made it possible to have it as difficult without being impossible

[rocky cosmos]

They should have make it impossible then!

[feral jetty]

true?!

[copper crescent]

since now ur teams won't die in 30s

[feral jetty]

because keep in mind we're probably gonna be dealing with this binah as the hardest difficulty for the next few years

[copper crescent]

dude

[opaque dagger]

I mean, the main issue is that Meeka and Neru School just do so much dmg

[copper crescent]

i kept saying it'll be another 5 years until NA gets luna cutoff

but

[opaque dagger]

The only real way of making it difficult is to just make it such that you need healers

[copper crescent]

now that doesn't sound so true anymore

[opaque dagger]

And you need more teams

So you need to ration your Def Down and buffers accordingly

[queen plank]

i think there will be a one team

some weird way

eventually

[copper crescent]

yeah bigger stats with the current mechanic is fine

[feral jetty]

btw the uneru team does 40m dmg in the top ranks

we might just straight up see a wanpan luna on the very first urban luna binah

[copper crescent]

holy f

[lilac solar]

time to raise my uneru more

[queen plank]

40m

wow

[queen plank]

where?

[proven dove]

Ssg neru

[feral jetty]

basically they run that mika team in team 1 as a groggy team

[rocky cosmos]

it's not even full time 40m
The only reason it only does that because it need groggy

[queen plank]

lol

[feral jetty]

they do it so that they can keep daru alive by groggying missiles on AAs

[copper crescent]

40 * 1.3/1.1 = 47.27m

[queen plank]

?

[copper crescent]

so urban 1pan might actually happen

[queen plank]

[copper crescent]

her mood differences between urban and field

[opaque dagger]

Mainly because Neru School is tied to Rio and Himari Bike

[queen plank]

ooo

[opaque dagger]

So you can't run Nagi Swimsuit or Ako

[grim finch]

rip kisaki

[feral jetty]

yeah but here's the thing

[grim finch]

no wonder they put her as perm

[queen plank]

wb

mika wanpan

[copper crescent]

wtf

[feral jetty]

that uneru team is only going like half time

[opaque dagger]

Ye main issue is that she needs Rio

[copper crescent]

maybe someone could try full time and record a vid

[opaque dagger]

So you have to run Aru Dress or it's just 3 buffers

I'm surprised no one is trying Seia tho

[grim finch]

keeping someone alive is harder

than kill the boss

[queen plank]

mb cuz she doesnt buff alot

compared to daru

[old rose]

we have used seia

[queen plank]

tho

[opaque dagger]

I meant Luna Binah runners

[feral jetty]

i trust in the urban binah cooking

[queen plank]

daru literally will die from a missle

[old rose]

we have?

previous iterations of the 2nd team used seia

[feral jetty]

luna binah used seia before discovering the groggy strat

[copper crescent]

bhimari is just a bigger buff

[opaque dagger]

No, I'm wondering if you just start with Seia Neru School

Does it 1 team clear

[old rose]

oh lmfao

[queen plank]

lets see

[feral jetty]

good question

[old rose]

i don't think it comes close

[queen plank]

ok

[feral jetty]

but i don't think anyone's gonna try it

[queen plank]

whoch one does more dmg

[feral jetty]

since it'd be slower anyway

[queen plank]

rio kiki

or rio b himars

[opaque dagger]

I mean it's slower, but proof of concept of 1 team clear

Just like Boat Insane

[queen plank]

tho they can just run sseia

[copper crescent]

yeah

[opaque dagger]

Would be funny

Because we would get the first true 1 team clear

[feral jetty]

bhimari does have better uptime for uneru's shenanigans

[queen plank]

how many days

[feral jetty]

cool 8 second animation bro

[queen plank]

no animation cuz settings

[copper crescent]

2 more days

[queen plank]

unless uhh

[feral jetty]

no i'm not talking about that animation

[queen plank]

yea it might happen

[feral jetty]

i'm talking about the animation that she does to deal damage

[queen plank]

ah

[opaque dagger]

The day they release a non-Yellow armor CDmg buffer

Is the day you see 1 team Luna Binah clears

[queen plank]

nah

[feral jetty]

it takes her nearly 8 full seconds to finish her full EX animation

[queen plank]

ok yes

but

[copper crescent]

we have

xerina

[queen plank]

seia has uhh

[feral jetty]

xerina/dako both clash with the specials

[opaque dagger]

Cost tho

[queen plank]

yellow buff

[opaque dagger]

Isn't she like, 5 cost

[copper crescent]

4

[feral jetty]

4 cost

50 second duration

[copper crescent]

but she lasts 50s

[queen plank]

holy shit

[feral jetty]

she's very cost efficient

[queen plank]

wait is xerina striker

[feral jetty]

yeah

[queen plank]

or special

[copper crescent]

yes

[feral jetty]

actually wait

[queen plank]

how much

[copper crescent]

xerina is more cost efficient than daru

[queen plank]

compared to daeu

[feral jetty]

her yellow eff clashing with bhimari doesn't matter that much does it?

[copper crescent]

no

[feral jetty]

since bhimari's constantly reapplying it

[opaque dagger]

Was gonna say, does it even matter

[copper crescent]

she reapplies every 7s

[queen plank]

so

xerina has 64 cdmg buff

at min

[copper crescent]

70.5% at max

[opaque dagger]

I think it would be funny if someone tried Rio/Himari Bike/Serina Xmas/Seia Swimsuit/Neru School/Kanna Swimsuit

Just as a proof of concept

[rocky cosmos]

Her basic uptime suck

[opaque dagger]

But Neru School might die before groggy, that's the problem

[lilac solar]

15 eleph to UE60

[queen plank]

mock

[feral jetty]

wait xerina's yellow eff stacks anyway

[queen plank]

HUH

[feral jetty]

bhimari's buff is on enhanced

[copper crescent]

yeah

[feral jetty]

i forgor

[queen plank]

lemme just

[opaque dagger]

@polar orbit if it's baldleft speaking, would you wanna try this as a proof of concept?

If it's comfyleft speaking, can you pass the message to baldleft?

[copper crescent]

this is gonna be so bald

[feral jetty]

xerina on urban vs daru on outdoor

yeah urban luna binah might actually end up being wanpan

[copper crescent]

how many EX does uneru do in 3 mins

[opaque dagger]

I think this also works for Field

[copper crescent]

yes