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i didn't even notice, i just clicked the shiny button
I know what you mean. There is a difference with how that doesn't influence our teambuilding much, though.
my gut is telling me it might be blue raid cuz they wanna sell baris but they already did with chokmah so eh
Nah srkr we go
beside kei already sold like crazy from all the blue content
how are we still busy selling baris...
everyone knows she powercreeps every blue content
If we're seeing the bubble, then we inherently have the utility to handle it.
no more selling needs to be done
this game is crazy about fest glazing 
so... yeah
tfw dhina is the most balanced fes rn
nah, blue hiero won't even sell byuzu
..... 
no no dw it's actually part of the storytelling guys
since we beat them up in world raid they're all getting nerfed to be clowns
absolute cinema
Rio >>>
decagra is over so binah is weaker 
Still people will hate on her more than others x_x
its just her gameplay not the character
Some hate on her without even really malding her in gameplay.
but i dont rea-
hello nexon pls let me buffer inputs so that i dont have to pause spam/macro like a rart to get decent timing on dhina ex skills ty
wtfš
Hopefully she'll still be relevant after waris, beside yesod :3
so true
having all fests is chilling
well no IMari does hurt Satsuki's damage windows A LOT but
no idols for most is just, yeah not a good time lol
how ur torment clear
like the raid is super bearable even without idols
had to quit cause i couldnt do it on my one free day

Anyway gotta focus a bit on geburah. The raid is a bit stressful even mock feels tiring (I love geburah though)
generally this is the most oppressive raid as a whole
my torment is pretty scruffy
i'd love UAsuna just to make it more comfy
since SKanna does risk dying on p2 once there's ATG with no ice break available before it hits
but thats like, 30-40 seconds left so it could be worse
but well a clear is a clear ig 
im just not willing to mald the Satsuki experience anymore
Studentd decided to hang out after the raid
cause the lack of consistency = its gonna go bad on a real ticket
I have to find a way to utilize baldshino into 2 pan
Or just Deno thru for selector

on insane that's bout as far as you're getting but it's even malder with things like Satsuki only now having 48 CR or something
like my first team can actually wanpan
with no idols insane
it's just impossible to ever execute
my problem is tyuuker ue30 folds like a paper 
still try to figure out a rot that can keep her alive as long as possible
p1 or p2
I used this, but Serina may be better than SAtsuko
oh p2, you are repoing her further down to ensure wave hits later yeah
what you mean by hit later?
hmm
lemme try this tech
cause i do that for torment with UE40 LB25 TYuuka
True gamers repo the team into the water 
i still die with about a minute left tho

anw at worst i will do like 4-5 teams
welp maybe it's time i start to buy mimori elep
torment?
solo mash dang
i tried Mash Nagisa on a p1 team before idols and it did about
14 mil
on torment
problem is Mash can't double EX effectively
albeit thats just cause my 50/50 luck on the second one is bad lol

and i dont think Mash ex does much without the bonus
first 2 teams
wappi havers 
-# 
in my case its UAsuna havers
i will do a comfier torment Geb once it reruns...and once UAsuna comes back
Luna?
imagine not doing pinball
Imagine doing pinball
imagine doing the raid
Imagine playing the game
Imagine playing
Imagine
tor š
any comfy lunas here 
no
So now that I cleared Tor, I wonder if I can afford to slacc for the rest of the week 
superkaijuwhelpromax dino above me
how rude
my son would never betray me 
the lantern has like hp in the hundreds, idr the exact number
Hello nezo
for hiero lantern its 99% of max hp - 2 to heal to full
hello jerome
hello whels
hello whelshiro
f2pshiro
look who's early today
say it again
-# 
f2whaleiro
nezo
shut u denosaur
I can clear tor too
who up golding in extreme 
praise me, or else
who 


thanks deno...
great job ayeccs !
unlucky
i was curious but it seems like the atk speed buff might actually be screwing you over on the mika team
because of maki NS timing
not sure though
imma get her in the game
clears probably aren't fully optimized right now after all




Okay chat I'm living under the rock cuz work is binah hard or easy
lunament
lunament
lunament
that means its very very easy
So mika and uneru is enough 
Not miyu used š
2pan in... 2 hours?
i was seriously expecting peroro level of luna
instead we got the easiest on release luna so far
im quite certain that TOR BINAH on release much harder than this...
I was expecting rework krkg lvl tbf
it was
deniki had 8 legitimate teams ready
well it is sorta that easy
Me who still prob will do ins binah at most:
but kurokage on release wasnt easy

welp easy lun
good for me i guess
all lun for me possible
Luna cutoff on eu trusted me 

i mean... all raids are
roster check on limited though
Alright either I need to find a new team0 to save satsuko for the final team
or I just mald
Teams 2 and 3

roster check isn't even bad, it's just satsuki
ins is not even that bad without them
it is
Luna geburah isn't easy x_x super team hws are annoying
like new players like me has to rely on kotori and minori
Hi balders
I don't think the raid is possible without at least iwak and s fubuki
on insane
UNLESS you raise your own satsuki
I prob will, just for lun
which is asking a lot since you are investing in a one time special dps that likely has no other uses outside of geburah
max dps invest on characters like D hina and mika at least has some uses in other raids

How bad we talkin ? You gotta mald stability even more ?
the worst part is knowing that after pulling idols and tyuuka geburah will prob not rerun for another year

actualy angering me
you really only need one of kok/iwak/sfubuki/idols/uasuna to clear ins
Dw, we'll get that triple tor geb GA soon
kok team will NOT work without iwak and sfubuki
I can feel it 
and tyuuka
you can overcrit, or you can undercrit
ok sure, if you're using kok then you need one of tyuuka/cmaki/sfubuki/iwak
Overcrit as in... you get to p2 too early I assume
Cuz you gonna kaiju it
yeah

but in any case the roster check for ins geb is really not as bad as people make it seem
Extreme cutoff 
There are clears fitting your description here and there, but they look rather f2p
yesod is going to be hc cutoff
doesn't mean it's hard 
It's about groggy, so far I never groggied at the same time as the hw (tried gpina and satsuki), you can find yourself facing an ice pillar while hw doesn't, or the opposite.
With satsuki hw I could adapt a bit and ended run at 25m hp left.
Cleaning up was a bit harder than expected but doable (gotta optimize teams)
š¦ daily clear
no tyuuka, no idols 
Ofc satsuki hw leaves like less 10m hp. And gpina's kills the boss 
I've never paid attention to geb's groggy lol
Do you have a video ref ?
I genuinely dk how someone who started after 4th anni can do geburah insane unless mega whale
repos and healer is locked behind limited
new plana stats feature just dropped 
koharu/serina/satsuko and mimori/kotori work just fine for insane
farmables are very low investment if they are new though
Was is that
Recommendation
I used this video, except I go the full time with team 1 and end around 153-155m. Doesn't look like groggy timing mattered much in team 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvkRGmfzKw0&t=283s
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i'm not suggesting a newbie do ins geb, but if you were planning for it at least 2-3 months beforehand as one should, it's not that hard, even while missing many of the more premium units
you input who you have and how many stars you have on them and it finds a clear for you
well 0 clears missing everything 
really new players unfriendly because no alternatives to some of the core units that is f2p friendly

iwak banner was up though
as was sfub and skanna
time to use that f2p pakeji
iwak banner was right after fest
there is satsuki banner right now too 
there are ways if you are willing to spend for it
imagine jp player pulling for satsuki then gets jump scared by m girls in a month
I'm using satsuki & sfubuki & skanna team 1, leaves 113m hp (quite consistent) then super team groggy timing kinda matters :x anyway thanks I need some inspiration for the cleanup and this'll help :3
sometimes i am glad i chose global

I'll try gpina's hw again tomorrow before reset (in ticket)
we f2p are here to slacc
now clear luna 
not really planning to do either luna until friday
btw how is B yuzu?
for that comp, she's definitely the wrong choice 
thats fair
i cant say im shocked by how free it is 
seia: 
i am the free thinker amid the mika 1pans
she's stronger outright at lower HP thresholds alrdy, no?
Cuz I can try her if needed
ok that's it I'm selectoring skanna
I'm so close to doing that
wow you're gonna do luna binah?
this binah is so easy people will do skannalet clears no problem
I just wanna compare both of their dmg
by the time it rolls around again I might have the units raised for it tbh
f2p btw
wow, just like that
ripped it
now you're going to magicals and spook skanna
and you're going to pull idols and spook skanna again
I'm gonna spook koyuki 
Hmm, deffinetly some Improvement
you know at least i am not doing luna
hanae 1 tapping luna heater sounds like pain
good luck

It sure sounds crazy
we still have like 5 months before binah and another fest inbetween you- oh you already did it
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Ue40 ? I don't have hanae built
Got a super clean run in mock and of course it doesn't go as smoothly when I use a ticket
plenty of time to build units 
also I have spare mats to max EX and sub for geb 
I think I'm building akane for luna geburah x_x
15.2m here I come
Do insane :p
my tmari instadies and koharu doesn't heal enough 
No idols ?
idollet
wdym koharu doesn't heal enough
Rip
koharu can never overheal on battle start
Koharu's voice heals my heart
Yeah I think that was the issue I faced
dont worry I can overheal koharu with love
tmari instantly overheats heater from 0 
tmari in geb is a choice
if she doesnt evaporate that is
A) Geburah left at fucklot hp:
1 -> 5 -> 4 -> 3
B) Geburah left below 29m:
1 -> 4 -> 2 -> 3
C) Geburah left below 26m:
1 -> 2 -> 3
D) Geburah left below 18m:
1 -> 6
_________________________
1: 3.54min
2. 45s, 9m
3. 45s, 17m
4. 1min, 3m
5. 4min, 30m
6. 45s, 18m
7. 60s, 7m

After burning a luna tix I'm ready for round 2
Itās so funny that this guy prepared 8 teams for lunatic binah just to realise what a joke it is
Basically lunatic binah is just torment but with double health
How disappointing
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Should at least have more than 100m
Damn thats dumb
This is more free than luna kurokage
I hoped it would take 10 teams like tor on release
didn't it get 3 panned on release
4pan only after being optimized
people were struggling hard on the first clears
in comparison
luna gets 2panned on day 1 of mock
I saw a bunch of 8 pan teams here
but maybe it was bait
I started wayyy after tor release
hoped it would be difficult either way
1 pan is probably possible later on
is she good enough
like there's a massive difference between
getting 4panned only after a full week of optimizations
vs
getting 2panned on the very first clears with suboptimal TLs
if she breaks pillar then yes
if she doesn't then no
that's it
she's not main dps?
no...
wtf is shoshi doing there
And thereās no double in 2 pan, no students that arenāt used in other raids(you can borrow fuyu)
cost regen
How do you make the idols repo and not just Bhoshi moving herself?
you're probably much better off running someone who's easier to rotate instead
Your reminder that Binah debut torment so many people got the absolute lowest torment score possible that devs had to rework the scoring system.
i mean it's still ext so you can probably still clear

but that extra cost regen isn't gonna mean much if you end up having to use a shoshi EX every time you have to rotate back to satsuki anyway
Anyone looks like we have luna cutoff now
because you have 3 5 cost units on that team
Thatās like 3 years ago
Devs know how bad their powercreep is after releasing so many supports and fest dps which gets more and more broken
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you just shanako it because she's a ST DPS in disguise

every challenge
good score?
it's a score 
not a good one 
w
oof for this guy
it bites yet another š
oh that's rough
i see that UE40 dkayo
i hope they got that from dupes and not from eligma
I'm still a takane believer for luna hiero 
or maybe nexon just wants to neuter all future lunas
another geb striker healer!
I'm still a takane believer for the trashcan
could you imagine
warioless luna hiero
just dhina toki 2 pan 
just gets 2panned by toki and snono/dhina
luna chesed? shanako still kills the mobs on yellow
sakurako borrow moment
I mean at that point it's hard to recommend people to farm farmables anymore
you think they just did their test runs with -1 buffer vs what players were attempting
Yeah idk what they were thinking
if we don't even use 2/3 of viable roster then what's the point 
luna srkr? aaris wanpans it
Not seeing srkr till next difficulty addition
Waris 


so close...
they don't have any inherent synergy, but kei's still a crazy buffer
The area lasts pretty long
tmt cutoff for geb
chesed srkr hiero kaiten
Hopefully they don't disappoint
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was luna cutoff in JP
actually, no. Looking at how easy it is, I'm expecting luna cutoff
not hehe ā¹ļø


What happened to Hina's status?
Ah alr!
In all variants too. So even S. Hina has none
Feels the aura

Do you remember what threshold %HP threshold needs to be filled before it activates?
Also what HP does Geburahās heater start the match at, is it 67% or 2/3rds?
The indicator said 66%
the indicator says 67% iirc
but im pretty sure i've heard others talk about it actually starting at 2/3rds hp, and the displayed value is just rounded up
I figured that IJW has it written down somewhere, and might also know the history of how it was found.
the history was in moon runes i believe
a big graph with testing and stuff
also i think it was like 99.07% did not overheat
Ah oops, I was thinking of the history of how the Serina investment threshold was found actually, by extension
that was in the graph which included proofs
5-dupe meaning 5pan cuz of the TL
as soon as i saw the hp i was like "oh damn they really buffed his def"
then i saw mika ex do 6m and immediately decided to stop farming karin
Are they referring to the 1st clear, or the R1 clear by the end of the 1st season?
Hi is there anyone who currently has a well built Satsuki for raid? Can I add you please?:ā<
i think ill mald the 3pan
if I highroll satsuki and improve my gpina rot im pretty sure i can do it...
yeah despite saying this, this wasn't what I expected 
i didnt think she'd be even fourth main team
i thought just premier groggy chip setup if hasumi didnt live
I expected 5pan at bare minimum
My prediction for Luna is for a 7-10 median on most raids
geburah is 2/3 in the backend but the heater only displays whole numbers. I dont remember the hp% for the lantern
Thanks 
We were discussing the investment threshold for Serina on Lunatic
There's some minor misinfo going around, it seems
Ah, not harmful though
oh yeah was there a final determination on the actual serina threshold
is ue50 doable at all or anh
"Buff" -> increase 400

It's UE60 + T10 + LB25 + B24
wtf
Ah, this is possible with UE50 + T10 + LB25 + B49
i wasted those invites...
Hi is there anyone who currently has a well built Satsuki for raid? Can I add you please?:ā<
It's been commonly quoted that this requires B29 though, for reasons I couldn't quite determine.
turns out 2 akanes were enough
and we don't even need the og akane
A clear is a clear ig
Did we got teased on who's on next banner yet?
idk i just looked at the graph and i couldnt work out much besides
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B29
it should be ritsu
If you've already tried #1108594770332373143, there's nothing to do but wait
good thing i preemtively wrote her off
cuz there was no way i was getting her to ue60 in time for this raid
lol
she has a lot of nodes now
Chat, which momotalk should I read today?
anyway i hope this is enough for yesod

hopefully i wont need anything other than ue50 wakamo
ive heard own smika can go in pretty underinvested
Howād the ticket go
burned 1 ticket
I tried and got someone, thank you didnāt know that channel exist
Hoping I will survive Extreme:v
grats, I did a mock earlier and it was not pretty lol
perhaps add maki / boshi
how many pans
Yuzutrends have this

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I messed up the exodia team and asuna died so I missed like 8 mil at the end
Binah may be first boss that u can clear with all "free" units
i can't even field 4 full teams cuz lacking healers
my last ukarin team is super scuffed lol
all units are free
My t mari ran out there and did her best for exactly 6 seconds
You only have 3 healers?
while karin charges up and shoots once every 30 seconds
natsu? 
Already used aoba?
Who are you missing?
that can onetap
Does Hanae count?
my hanae
where hanae chinatsu..
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like if i was really struggling to clear
i could build her
but i managed to clear with my wackass ukarin team so its whatever
I don't even have hanako raised myself
I guess it's fine if it's not needed
Every bond is step closer to Kaiten
Dont have them:(
Just the farmable/welfare healers is already 4 teams, and most people also have I.Mari, is why I was caught by surprise
This is the first time I got this high in raid š Ty the borrowed Satsuki
a lot of ppl dont value chinatsu
I spent a bit of time today mocking luna but won't clear it today
I'll have more free time tmr & sat 
It might be investment-locked again, but Kokona + Mari + C.Shiroko can get some mileage, for future reference.
hmmmmmm
I seem to recall that C.Shroko doesn't do it in fact.
wats binah lun hp
cherino i think
She doesn't need it for the very first hit.
At UE30, anyway
do p1 missiles do less dmg or something?>
on lun she does
cuz she dies to the missiles on p2
at ue30
fortunately she lives long enough to boost the heater once
which is all i need her to do lmao
Really? Did I misremember? I feel like I did it.
Or did I squeeze Mina EX in? I'll check.
mina š¦
I used Mina + Ibuki instead of C.Shiroko in P2
Because it's a bit too tricky to rotate C.Shiroko fast enough when U.Karin is on the team
yea Ukarin cleanup is honestly pretty miserable
Oh damn causew's going in blind
Just doing it in P1 without ATG is much easier though
Idk how people are doin like 30m with her
a very stable ukarin team that crits every hit only needs to get like 4 ex off
Midori? 
No, she lives. I didn't misremember.
Open with Kokona -> Mari
That's all
oh, Mari
I think on 1st season, my Kokona was UE30, and Mari was UE40
yeah thats the way to make her live i thought u meant without
alright anyone wanna spoon feed me yesod Luna comps

I need to figure out who to farm gear forā¦
lunament
its lose lose with gpd
such as it is to be human
what kaiju lunatic?
pelolo
Peroro

pelolo f2p btw
hmm
I finally cleared insane
With 3 teams


whel score 
why bald 40m when 50m is free
Finally I beat insane all raids
Ue 60 Kisaki Rio, ue50 snagi, Mine, ue60 kok and both dps: 
Not very free for me
surely I can have them cheaper

also half of them are the same investments as mine sooooo

Ue60 check
2pan tor f2p slacc
raid mechanics powercreep
Just like a lot of card games
lun cutoff jp and insane cutoff asia/na might be justification to revise plat spots
surely NA at least gets torment cutoff
Cap
they got it on peroro
can na 1pan tor with eimi/mika tank
ig just following the luna comp above is pretty brainless 2pan so
yeah maybe tor cutoff
why they sitting up there
Mari trying to be like Yuzu
its to hide the sins in the darkest abyss
okay so geburah is literally angering me
i decide to whale
how do i whale
sorry i think a better question is
how do I invest and receive maximum profit
maybe your right
š³
Sacc this boss then spend every roll on Reisa

Never underestimate how an ice railgun can change your trajectory
sorry guys my dark side was out for a brief second
I forget, are you trying to clear tor
With no idols or sth
i am no longer a whale

just insane
but I lack resources for multi teams

ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦..
.....................
?
yea it could
not right this minute anyways
pull on satsuki until ue60

I can ue60 satsuki
LMAO
but I will not do it
I actually forgot her banner was up rn
truly whel mindset
I will no listen to the voices in my head
you could pull until ue60 satsuki even if her banner weren't up

the mindset of whels truly is an enigma for me
is that srkr
ye
might as well invest on wakamo and borrow kuroko
the voices in my head is talking to me again
the voices are telling me to ue60 shiroko
help
tell them to fuck off and make boshi UE 60
You mean iwak?


nah it won't be worth it, pvp season ending soon
dont
looking at next srkr to avoid confronting the geburah in front of you?
sire waris is coming
i got the plat ext score for euro
hopefuly it should be enough for plat
who tf makes her UE 60 this time
stop trying to be the voices in my head
where UE 70
no i'm not even joking she does need ue60
and some more
-# to live in luna yesod p1 without max hp sub
jokes aside tor can work with UE 40 already
yeah if ur not doing Luna, ue40 enough
just pull on mreisa for more ligma
I think I hit buy accidenly one more time....


Worth
okay this might be asign
From ue60 kuroko owner
i am bricced two times today already
But I also ue50 wakamo
i acidently hit max when buying t2 equips today, wasted 30k permit
now I bought more elephs than necessary
like wtf
what is going on
is the whales taking over my pc
Welcome to the brickery
My life in this game is being bricked by my own stupidity
anyone wanna fund my dhina
Dang it, a Mine collab plush and itās one time batch only.
oh man i misclicked again !
no misinfo
how u got 2 blue star and lvl 1 ue at the same time
cause I didnt upgrade at all? 
You donāt need to level the weapon to unlock the stars
You can UE it but don't upgrade
or does ue50 b50/50 live in luna yesod p1 without max hp sub?
Important since weapon mats are either in excess or donāt exist
thats not a consideration
but it can
guys can you guys comfort me
the two bricc instances today are actually driving me crazy
I am about to lose it
pat pat
Hello again
you are cute
Here, the council.
It's finally that time of the year
Holy car
So yeah itās a shame thereās a Mine plush coming for the collab but
what time 
Even a brick has a birthday
there is kisaki ball official merch over at cn
Ah yes 
Anyways
Geburah:
- Being 2nd highest boss HP on insane (prolly to other diff as well)
- thic def
- locked with very specific team to clear
No wonder after 3rd encounter I still can't take on insane
A Mine plush Iāll never have unless I buy it from someone whoāll own it
Wait, this is not GPH
I do not like limited collab merch like this since Mine wonāt get a Chocopuni anytime soon anyways
st boss and 87m at the same time 
st what?
single target
oh dat
also grants ur entire team 500 cost recovery 30% atk and 60% cdmg and increases dmg dealt of your specials by 80%

yeah special DPS: not found (at least on my case)
seems difficult
Specifically need red special dps
it should have been 80% buff to striker and 80% nerf to special dps
-D Hina
At this point D Hina can probably solo Insane lol
No idols Iām guessing? Or lacking idols
If there's a better yellow dps maybe
Mika and uneru
i litterally only have asuna as core team
Both did their best but not enough
we talm abt geb



me
bonus long grind F2P unit 7 star Mashiro
And doesnāt low stab too many
ins cutoff 
You're ext?
punish this slaccer
How many teams?
no idols, no tyuuka, no u auna, played after 4th anni no resources for second team

me 3 tor
Geburah be like that.
I went tor tor ins
Cause we lack comfy for Geb. Itās still maldy even with the good stuff
Oh right, like two days left of Cyberstan.
trying to find mari with this background visuals is giving me a seizure
Yeah uhh
89% on star kield
Not good
kotori cope lol
Even with seaf bayonet charge
cleanup 
Oh well, we need to accept losses sometimes
where's your hibiki and koharu for cleanup
she has fan service !
š cj they stole the democracy space station blueprints
Theyre gonna build their own
my s fubuki can't one shot pillar....
If we dont do this
hibiki is for team 1!!!!
I ran out of equip orbs

Yeah, weāll need to counter soon but nothing we can do to get Cyberstan liberated
there was just no planning done at all
sfoob and hibiki will deal with that

man
Doesnāt help that bug and squid divers cost us lives btw
Isnt there like 23% of total players on bugs

How some of you actually ran out of those
i thought i could 1 pan
raised ~15 characters in 2 months
+new player
you didn't even check if your sfub could one shot pillar...
Mine sitting at around 1300 and that's why I didn't grab them from the event shops

Ahh I see
Yeahā¦
IT ONE SHOTS IN MY MAIN TEAM BC I HAVE S KANNA
Well, good luck farming those in events shops
caps

Could be worse. This isnāt fully endgame yet but yeah
This isnāt like if we failed to defend Super Earthā¦and sure, but we do it in another channel or in DMs lol

Anyways iqguy Iām sad
Thereās a Mine plush coming next week but itās limited one time batch only.
And it wonāt be available for overseas ordering ofc
Oof.
.ffO
Maybe chocopuni will make the mine serina hanae plush set soonish
Maybe
Remedial Knights arenāt that popular but
Itās a higher chance than Shun chocopuni
Well its gonna suck if they blast one of our planets 
Unfortunately yeah, itās the bots version of the Meridia black hole
Itās better than Shunās chances tho cause
Naturally, Shun canāt be made into a Chocopuni unless sheās Shunny.

Hold that thought
today its wifes birthday

Nexon only considers Shunny the canon one anyways
Stop dooming start hoping

























