💬gameplay-discussion

[sonic crater]

u know

i feel like

some schizo

will attempt that

.....

making uneru auto groggy the missile

[fleet narwhal]

alice

[tulip geyser]

Is there a new chihiro..?

[sonic crater]

no lol

[tulip geyser]

Oh that's a not in igirisu

I see now

[covert spoke]

ok i can go back to farming hinata

[opaque dagger]

Neru School really needs Rio lmao

[covert spoke]

here i was thinking i'd need stronger bodythrow groggy setup teams

[sonic crater]

same lol

guess i can slack farmable again /s

[atomic arrow]

I noticed the last 3 fes events had students that worked too well with each other
u.neru with rio
s.mika with s.nagisa
a.aris with kei

[covert spoke]

most student pairs work well together

if they already have teamwork that is

[atomic arrow]

[tulip geyser]

Dang

Bro spitting facts here

Most synergies have synergy 🗣️

[steep vortex]

did kanna just standing man emote for a sec lmao

[atomic arrow]

standing man?

[steep vortex]

LOL

[atomic arrow]

oh the T pose, classic

[polar orbit]

oh now we got rio

[steep vortex]

now with rio its very dead

[snow portal]

I guess the noobs are smarter now and won't fall for D.Hina scam

[steep vortex]

someone borrowed my kisaki btw

[sonic crater]

yeah see

sseia live LOL

[summer dew]

it's still too early to say that

but there is hope

[hollow saddle]

Needs to furthest cover on p3

[old rose]

why does binah deal no damage tho

i would expect everyone to die to missiles lowkey

[polar orbit]

red armor stronk

[sonic crater]

student with cover

[hollow saddle]

Cover buff

[sonic crater]

receive 50% damage reduction

[old rose]

i thought it was supposed to be an "adjustment" tho

it's just a flat 50% damage nerf tho?

[sonic crater]

yeah the cover give that

it just there is a lot more damage from missile received by tank

and binah atk stats is still his tor stats

despite t10 existence

[old rose]

tank is tank tho

more pressure on tank is generally not that big of an issue

[sonic crater]

yeah

[astral fern]

Couldn't even pass p1

Damn

This is rough

[prime geyser]

[snow portal]

😔

[sonic crater]

he kept resettin g

[astral fern]

It's ok

It's only a mock

[sonic crater]

could have been a kill

[astral fern]

I'm not doing the same mistake thrice

[old rose]

this deniki guy

[covert spoke]

theres already been luna clears surely

so he wont be first

[polar orbit]

yeah

[covert spoke]

might as well upscore

[sonic crater]

early entry

OME

[old rose]

where is yuzutrends live

[covert spoke]

OI OI YOU CANCELLED THE BASIC

[young lotus]

Binah

[polar orbit]

lmao

200k

[sonic crater]

gg

gg

[steep vortex]

lolk

[sonic crater]

LMAO

[young lotus]

Is

Severely undertuned

[sonic crater]

FREE

[old rose]

gg

[sonic crater]

FREE

[polar orbit]

gg

[sonic crater]

OME

[old rose]

looks free

[steep vortex]

genuinely free lunatic

[young lotus]

What a disappointment

[covert spoke]

krkg or binah easier

[polar orbit]

binah

[young lotus]

[sonic crater]

binah

lol

[steep vortex]

binah for sure

[sonic crater]

even post eye fix keke isnt

[feral jetty]

deniki is depressed

[sonic crater]

this free

[young lotus]

Binah lunatic might as well be binah torment with how hard it gets bullied now

[steep vortex]

as soon as i saw 50 mil hp, i knew this shit was free

[sonic crater]

ikr

LOL

[simple ravine]

mine stocks

[feral jetty]

he didn't even use any groggy teams either did he?

just straight up 2pan

[steep vortex]

nope

[old rose]

ts looks easier than krkg

[polar orbit]

i wonder if mine is even best tank cause she's conflicting with skanna and rio

[steep vortex]

literally 2pan

[sonic crater]

nein

clear already

in less trhan

2 hours

[steep vortex]

unoptimized as hell too

[sonic crater]

man he is

[covert spoke]

we will see 53m binah...

[sonic crater]

so disappointed

LOL

[polar orbit]

easily

[old rose]

looks doable without skanna?

[sonic crater]

the baffled voice

:icantr

[steep vortex]

i can’t blame him

[polar orbit]

nani kore

[sonic crater]

100%

[covert spoke]

did he use fuyu

[steep vortex]

how does binah go from a super difficult tor on debut to piss easy luna

[polar orbit]

nope

double skanna

[sonic crater]

no

[steep vortex]

no

[sonic crater]

he did double skanna

[old rose]

wtf there are leaderboard clears with daru

[sonic crater]

so now he has 5 days to bald

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[polar orbit]

that's torment

[old rose]

oh those are tors

[polar orbit]

lunatic is mock only rn

[echo oar]

2pan r247

[old rose]

yea i paused and rewatched

[echo oar]

oh duh

[opaque dagger]

It's Eimi and it's not even close lmao

[polar orbit]

eimi is team 1 though

already used

[opaque dagger]

You kinda need the repo or the rest of the team dies to laser

[hollow saddle]

No need dtsukuyo anyway lol

Eimi truly goat

[steep vortex]

welp, guess that’s the stream

[old rose]

it actually just looks like a tor clear

[opaque dagger]

Eimi actually ate all that up, crazy

[steep vortex]

onto the next lunatic

[polar orbit]

casually buying the pyroxene cafe invite

[echo oar]

after he's 1.5 hours late to opening the cafe!!

[dull mauve]

🐳

[prime geyser]

Lmao

Tor

[polar orbit]

not b150 neru

brick

[prime geyser]

60s missile

[covert spoke]

f2p

[old rose]

wonder how much maki needs to live team 1 tho

she was on life support in p2

[covert spoke]

does its def not change eitehr

[opaque dagger]

7200 Def

[steep vortex]

ue60 maki is free

[covert spoke]

so essentially no

[steep vortex]

yeah

[covert spoke]

thats fucked

[old rose]

but ma coins

[opaque dagger]

400 more than Tor

[steep vortex]

it’s basically just 2x hp and does more damage

[polar orbit]

i mean max maki is f2p

[steep vortex]

that’s it

[old rose]

does it really deal more damage though

[steep vortex]

a lot more damage

[sonic crater]

[opaque dagger]

I mean, I did say

[sonic crater]

geniuely if people want to get cheap lun clear

do binah

lol

[opaque dagger]

Luna Binah will either be the easiest shit or the baldest shit

And we now know which one Nexon chose

[old rose]

also outdoors so ue40 uneru/mika probably perform quite well

[steep vortex]

doubters out

[hollow saddle]

Even lunatic, binah still punchbag

[sonic crater]

oh boi

[torpid galleon]

wait till they announce level 95 difficulty

[sonic crater]

he's gonna bald aint he..

[torpid galleon]

[opaque dagger]

I feel like Binah is so hard to balance

Either it's too easy or too difficult

[steep vortex]

i mean why not atp

[sonic crater]

true...

[steep vortex]

he cleared in a little over an hour

[torpid galleon]

Give them 3 years to announce it

😂

[opaque dagger]

Next they're gonna research if double Mika or double Neru is faster

[polar orbit]

what the takane doing

[old rose]

mika 1 uneru 2 seems quite good tho

[grim finch]

so

[old rose]

looks f2p

[grim finch]

luna binah free?

[old rose]

yes

[grim finch]

nice my 2nd luna

[polar orbit]

ohh he's trying to go team 1 tankless

ahhhh

[steep vortex]

it’s free free

[opaque dagger]

Have to admit tho, that Eimi Mika team is actually fantastic

[grim finch]

why it only have 50m hp

it should be like 100m

[old rose]

fr

[covert spoke]

whys it only have 7200 def

[torpid galleon]

I knew it was going to be 50M HP

[covert spoke]

it should be 9000

[opaque dagger]

Everyone was guessing 90-100m when the patch notes came out

[steep vortex]

i was expecting 100mil bare minimum

[grim finch]

nexon making game easy for the noobs

[steep vortex]

i mean they literally got rid of the stab debuff, of course this was gonna be easy

[covert spoke]

70m hp 9k def 40k atk

[polar orbit]

[sonic crater]

even if they keep it, it's still way undertuned

[sonic crater]

[old rose]

isn't the cover change just a 50% damage nerf to binah? I didn't read it when it was annouced in the world raid

[sonic crater]

aint no way

[simple ravine]

[sonic crater]

they gonna make mika live....

....

god

[polar orbit]

basically, unit takes 50% less damage behind cover, but being behind cover means you cannot dodge

[sonic crater]

please no

[old rose]

when were we dodging

[polar orbit]

tankless team babyyy

[covert spoke]

underestimated bhimari tho the delicate medical cool genius beautiful hacker does it again

[polar orbit]

exactly

[steep vortex]

eimi who?

[polar orbit]

lmao 31m

[old rose]

19

[simple ravine]

damn down to 19 mil

[sonic crater]

mika tank

works

[old rose]

and now you have eimi for p2

[sonic crater]

....

mika tank

[polar orbit]

eimi who

[sonic crater]

fcking

works

[steep vortex]

lmaoooooooo

[sonic crater]

WHO NEEDS EIMI

OME

[covert spoke]

my gorilla 💞

[old rose]

another kokona raid...

[grim finch]

my 400 pulls for fes archive is ready for mika

[polar orbit]

i wonder if aoba or d.tsukuyo > mine just to not conflict the def downs

[sonic crater]

hello hi yes would who is eimi again?

[sonic crater]

u can time it

[polar orbit]

yeah

[sonic crater]

so it isnt that confliction

[covert spoke]

lun binah hit with the penalty card
do not pass go
do not collect body throw teams
do not pass groggy setup
proceed directly to shiroko dmichiru shun no tank speedrun brainrot

[sonic crater]

ONG!!!!

[sand harness]

Aw man ofc I got this on mock after I got 15.226

[grim finch]

dmichiru sales go up now?

[covert spoke]

no

[sonic crater]

nah

she's good but this binah

[polar orbit]

michiwho

[sonic crater]

doesnt stock her up atm

[simple ravine]

more like kokona and mine stocks

[sonic crater]

man

i cant believe

that mika tank works

[covert spoke]

dmichiru > iwak for dkayoko finisher

[sonic crater]

💀

[old rose]

imari probably doesn't work ?

[covert spoke]

maybe idk

[polar orbit]

insant missiles vs yellow armor

[sonic crater]

iirc uhhh
ue 60 b50 lb max

[old rose]

overheal tho

[sonic crater]

tho idk for how long

[polar orbit]

does she overheal herself?

[old rose]

or can she overheal her self i have no idea

[polar orbit]

lmao

i should know this

imari is like my most used unit

[opaque dagger]

She can't target herself, pretty sure

[hollow saddle]

She can

[opaque dagger]

Wait she can target self?

[old rose]

no, her ex selfheals tho

[feral jetty]

yeah it works like kokona ex

[steep vortex]

yeah she can overheal herself

[opaque dagger]

Does the self heal give overheal

Wow

[polar orbit]

apparently

[old rose]

lives missiles ?

[wicked vine]

https://x.com/astryminal/status/2024015201092206668?s=46&t=Akh_A5mtogzKhWfn-usjMw

ASTRYYYYYMiNAL (@astryminal)

My wife cheated on me in 2017 with a man named Neon Fox. Since then, we got divorced and she got the kids. This spiralled into me losing my job and becoming homeless. I have always hated Neon for ruining my life but not as much as i hate Geburah from Blue Archive total assault

X · Feb 18, 2026, 6:56 AM

[polar orbit]

yerp self overheal

good unit

[hollow saddle]

Lmao

[sonic crater]

kek

[hollow saddle]

1 uneru ex stance

[sonic crater]

oh

still not 52.8 huh

[polar orbit]

not 53m!

[simple ravine]

like 13 seconds faster

[hollow saddle]

3min raid duh

[sonic crater]

yeah

the possibility is there tho

52.8m

[echo oar]

I guess they just never tested healerless comps

[polar orbit]

i guess i gotta spook skanna now

[wicked vine]

are they doing binah luna yet

[old rose]

the did it already

[polar orbit]

it's 2 teams

[wicked vine]

afc

wtf

HOW

[sonic crater]

they already

speedrunning

cuz

the raid is undertuned

[old rose]

its 50m hp

[sonic crater]

so u can 2 pan it

[wicked vine]

crazy

[sonic crater]

without bodythrow

[feral jetty]

yeah the raid looks kinda free

[sonic crater]

oh also

[wicked vine]

i was expecting something bro

[sonic crater]

u can make

mika tank

[sonic crater]

with kokona

[echo oar]

make binah the first GA luna

[sonic crater]

who is eimi again....

[polar orbit]

triple lunatic

[wicked vine]

i thought it was bad because bro starts using missiles 10 seconds in

[hollow saddle]

No DAru allowed

[polar orbit]

cover reduces damage by 50% so it's basically free

[wicked vine]

first luna ever???

[sonic crater]

if u wanna do one ig sure

it's quite cheap

well

it is still lun so

yeah

[polar orbit]

you may not even need your own skanna if you have enough backup options

[wicked vine]

does skanna need to be ue30/40

[frozen birch]

The back, the vents

[grim finch]

this luna is geb tor level

[steep vortex]

easier than geb tor

[hollow saddle]

I would say its below geb

[sonic crater]

doesnt seem like it? need more people

since deniki testing it with ue 40+

it is doable with 3 star but like

[feral jetty]

the mechanic that was meant to force you to use dtsukuyo

[sonic crater]

there "might" be some change in rot

[feral jetty]

ended up being the one that made it a giga free raid

[steep vortex]

just 3* skanna on the mika team and ue40 skanna on the uneru team

[feral jetty]

that's really funny

[opaque dagger]

Also he's doing it with 11 cost

[wicked vine]

lol

so theres one new mechanic and its that?

[sonic crater]

yeah might need 1-2 bodythrow for cheaper team but like

it's pretty easy for a lunatic

[wicked vine]

i expected more tbh

[sonic crater]

no it just they revamp how binah works

but lunatic and torment has the exact same mech

exact same stats atk

400 more defense on lun

[frozen birch]

Urban?

[grim finch]

i expect a dkayo return on luna binah

[sonic crater]

outdoor

[grim finch]

but nexon

[sonic crater]

so mika shine

31m mika

[frozen birch]

Oh outdoor, makes sense

[sonic crater]

binah's hp is 50m

[opaque dagger]

The thing is, these Binah teams are straight up just everyday raid students

[sonic crater]

yeah

[frozen birch]

On lunatic? Wow that’s…..

[opaque dagger]

That's why it feels extra free

[steep vortex]

they’re also not even optimized rn

[sonic crater]

undertuned yeah

[steep vortex]

literally just free balling

[sonic crater]

oh btw cj

[frozen birch]

Yea I figured this would be free lol

[sonic crater]

mika can tank

with kokona

[steep vortex]

yeah, no need for eimi

or aoba

[frozen birch]

Oh nice

[steep vortex]

your mine is gonna be goated

[opaque dagger]

Is it more dmg with Meeka tank?

[sonic crater]

this is still 11c rot so need to see

10c rot

[frozen birch]

She definitely won’t die lol

[sonic crater]

there might be some difference

[steep vortex]

for sure

[sonic crater]

2-3m more damage

[frozen birch]

Anyways I can’t talk much, irl sensei work and I’m off break now

[sonic crater]

cuz kokona allow faster cycle

[polar orbit]

faster cycle, cost back, no tank slot used

Mine is human rights

[young lotus]

Man Binah got castrated

[polar orbit]

binah, no chesed

[young lotus]

[ancient star]

Lose its pair of Chesed

[copper surge]

Is possible for Kokona to survive at all on this rid?

[old rose]

sure

[polar orbit]

in geburah? yeah with shields

[copper surge]

This is not good

[polar orbit]

oh shoot

52.8 video with fuyu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4sTe5Y5gk8

[atomic arrow]

I found out how to do more damage

[prime geyser]

[fleet narwhal]

i cannot believe it...

binah is a joke ?

[polar orbit]

yep

[fleet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976

...must i go for yet another luna...

[opaque dagger]

I like how everyone here wanted to get bullied by Binah

[polar orbit]

i wonder if we're gonna see double fuyu

[opaque dagger]

GPD truly a den of masochists

[atomic arrow]

no longer raidless

[polar orbit]

great description

[copper crescent]

Huh

[lament gyro]

[copper crescent]

Wtf happened

[obsidian heath]

binah is a joke

is what happened

[lament gyro]

wtf cheets

[atomic arrow]

no...

[severe aspen]

was hoping itd be as horrible as the first binah torment

[torn thorn]

Whels

[lament gyro]

[torn thorn]

4* skanna wortg?

[copper crescent]

Dang

[torn thorn]

[dim frigate]

fuyu pullers winning the long game

[lament gyro]

First you luck out on high dhina crit for urban binah

Now you get bigger damage

[atomic arrow]

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it

[obsidian heath]

fuyu skippers will just go double skanna and probably have a better time anyway

[fleet narwhal]

heres your luna binah sir

[copper crescent]

I wanted to get bullied by binah 😔

[copper crescent]

Wtf how

Bro

[atomic arrow]

himari gaming

[fleet narwhal]

like.... this shit looks like torment lmfao

[copper crescent]

I thought this was gonna be 20 teams

[steep vortex]

its 50 mil hp with no stab debuff

[lament gyro]

[obsidian heath]

I hoped I'd get to use pina fina or something

[dim frigate]

new difficulty NOW nexon

[copper crescent]

We didn't even get to pina gaming

[fleet narwhal]

pina is for boat !

[atomic arrow]

we need binah, but they ban mika, easy

[steep vortex]

thats urban but then again, d mood mika, ss uneru

[copper crescent]

That might be even easier ngl

Instead of S and S we have SS and SS

[atomic arrow]

good thumbnail

[lament gyro]

Binah lunatic makes krkg lun look hard

[lament gyro]

[dim frigate]

we need to keep valkyrie students out of the waterpark

too op

[obsidian heath]

lmao @ lunament

real

[steep vortex]

lunament

[copper crescent]

Lunament is another name for tor+ ig

Not exactly luna but somewhere between tor and luna

[lament gyro]

It’s just easier tor

[copper crescent]

Yeah

[lament gyro]

No stab debuff

Only hp increase

[polar orbit]

lunament

[lament gyro]

was expecting nexon to make Binah apply more stab debuff

With higher defense

[fleet narwhal]

i was expecting it to be peroro type of bs

[copper crescent]

I was expecting it to be much harder than peroro 😟

[fleet narwhal]

....sui stocks are fuking plummeting

[copper crescent]

Bc that's what binah tor used to be like

[fleet narwhal]

ye i remember

[polar orbit]

forget sui, we didn't even need seia

[feral jetty]

what's new

[copper crescent]

Coping we get sui stock up in chesed

[polar orbit]

i wanna see how the no skanna/no fuyu clears are

that'll be the real f2p teller

[fleet narwhal]

i was expecting her to be a must there

[obsidian heath]

this was her last stand basically

she's not getting used for chesed

[copper crescent]

Damn

[polar orbit]

her last stand is yellow chokmah

my keyboard is dying

and so is my brain

[copper crescent]

My chesed expectation: mobs so tough u actually have a hard time clearing p1
What'll happen at this rate: shanako spam

[polar orbit]

double s.hanako

[atomic arrow]

has to be indoor if you want to discourage her

[fleet narwhal]

man

but like... what the hell is this lmfao

[hollow saddle]

https://fxtwitter.com/igacyan_gameaka/status/2024210157769806043

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FxTwitter · Feb 18, 2026, 7:51 PM

[fleet narwhal]

what is the point of luna

[polar orbit]

this is true f2p

[obsidian heath]

shirokuro lun will be a wanpan at this rate

[polar orbit]

somehow they gotta balance around baris

gl with that

[fleet narwhal]

i really just dont get it, like we got peroro or boat

on the other hand we get this

i thought HOD was easy but like... come on

[loud knoll]

devs probably became unhappy that 98% of players treat this difficulty as it doesn't exist

[copper crescent]

Maybe binah was giving his gratitude for us stopping binah idk

[dim frigate]

there's also a lot of people that complain if a boss has one mechanic lol

[fleet narwhal]

okay but this is literally torment team

[copper crescent]

Makes sense

[young lotus]

It almost feels like luna binah was undertuned on purpose

As an overcorrection for torment debut

[dim frigate]

This is just haps wait for new difficulty moment

[copper crescent]

Torment debut was perfect

[polar orbit]

maybe they wanted to keep binah as an entry point for non-fossil sensei to do a lunatic

[copper crescent]

Ah

[young lotus]

I love the mechanical changes made to Binah but

[polar orbit]

now they have a goal they can achieve in a realistic timeframe

[young lotus]

The numbers bros

[obsidian heath]

that would have been goz after this fes

[young lotus]

The numbers are too low

[copper crescent]

The numbers are bad

[true shale]

It almost feels bugged

[fleet narwhal]

i mean.... binah sucked ass

[true shale]

It got obliterated lol

[copper crescent]

Most of the problem solving stemming from binah isn't seen here

[fleet narwhal]

kinda feeling rn like i did with yesod being wakamo raid

[obsidian heath]

it hasn't even been 3h and it's already sub 5min speedrun slop

[copper crescent]

Bro what

Oml

[obsidian heath]

like he's just groggied half of the time

like actual torment

[polar orbit]

who got sub 5

[obsidian heath]

deniki

[obsidian heath]

that 2pan he uploaded

[copper crescent]

Bro if deniki got sub 5

[obsidian heath]

1:10 on the clock

[copper crescent]

The sweats are gonna nuke binah

[polar orbit]

ohh

[young lotus]

[polar orbit]

lunament

[polar orbit]

did you see the 57.819 clear

sorry 52

[obsidian heath]

no

[old rose]

57m

[polar orbit]

shush

my brain is mush rn for some reason

[copper crescent]

Be not mush idk

[true shale]

It appears the we can groggy him 4 times, which is a lot.

[copper crescent]

Rest drink water get blood into brain

Yeah no groggy setup needed

[true shale]

They adjusted the P3 cover arrangements too, and the adjustments are actually in our favour.

[polar orbit]

819 finished with 1:27 on the clock in team 2

sub 4:30

[copper crescent]

Maybe binah was just being nice this time

[true shale]

Old P3 cover could have posed a huge challenge with the new mechanics.

[polar orbit]

dw, hell difficulty binah will be impossible to compensate

[sonic crater]

they changed p1 cover also

[true shale]

This is the most undertuned I've ever seen a raid on a new difficulty release

[sonic crater]

it is

not even hod is this

bad

💀

[copper crescent]

It is

[fleet narwhal]

what if

what if we get luna cutoff

[copper crescent]

I feel like im looking at tor

[sonic crater]

as if

[obsidian heath]

on jp yes, probably

[true shale]

I almost wonder if they've made a reference error and loaded stats from something else.

[fleet narwhal]

on jp its likely imo

same with kr

[sonic crater]

jp player is slacker if we actually see the bigger picture

kr....

yeah

[sonic crater]

top raider coping for this also

but there we no additional patches

so uhhh

yeah

[dull bay]

kr has been a massive slacker for years now ngl

[obsidian heath]

50M was minecrafted a relatively long time ago

[copper crescent]

Yeah

[obsidian heath]

it's shocking they didn't end up buffing it

[sonic crater]

huh really?

interesting

ig time has changed

[copper crescent]

I saw 50m 7.2k before this

[true shale]

I didn't spot that. What did the old covers look like?

[polar orbit]

i think the issue is this is the first raid with no barrier to entry.
Peroro is just hard
Greg, geburah, and hod are specific unit checks
boat and goz are roster depth checks

Binah just has no barrier

[copper crescent]

Oh.

Guys

[steep vortex]

hi joe

luna binah is easy

[copper surge]

Is this low or high for this team?

[sonic crater]

uhhhh gimme a moment but the tl;dr is bottom cover is gone

[loud knoll]

will next binah rerun have 1 team clears?

[copper crescent]

Idk i think we might not be allowed to talk about this

[true shale]

Oh, the rock. I get you.

[polar orbit]

joe gonna ban hammer us

[true shale]

Was it a rock?

[sonic crater]

yes

[true shale]

Yeah, I see.

I wonder if that one would even be a factor given that cover doesn't get destroyed now in the first place.

[atomic arrow]

low, that team can 1pan insane

[young lotus]

Thinking about it tho

The raid would suck if you didnt raise eimi

[dim frigate]

18 mill dmg kinda hard to materialize outside of a fescreep

[young lotus]

But

[steep vortex]

who needs eimi

[polar orbit]

raising eimi is human rights

[young lotus]

Surely nobody would just ignore eimi

[mint sapphire]

[young lotus]

[true shale]

But yeah, this raid is undertuned on every front

[atomic arrow]

joe is here

[sonic crater]

yeah i was thinking of that also. i dont remember in older time that someone take the cover no?

[ashen goblet]

I just did ins, but the ue40 satsuki i borrowed did 51 million without any idols nor asuna. Seems low.

[steep vortex]

why is the trex fat

[sonic crater]

she can 1 pan so no that is too low

[loud knoll]

sure we'll get yellow baris next fes

[sonic crater]

[torn thorn]

just ukarin left...

[true shale]

It interfered with things like Neru/Izuna tank, iirc.

[torn thorn]

surely 15m trivial?

[sonic crater]

get the kill chief...

[sonic crater]

oh right

[atomic arrow]

[polar orbit]

carrying baby inside

[true shale]

They'd get dragged procedurally sideways by each cover breaking, and eventually get out of range of AoE healers.

[sonic crater]

right neru did have similar interaction in kaiten

[sonic crater]

ic

[true shale]

That's why all the Neru tanks ended up in P2/P3, (at least to my memory)

[torn thorn]

who do i actually put to taank o nthis last team

[copper crescent]

I think maybe nexon was trying to test what happens if raid was undertuned

[sonic crater]

u dont have hanae or serina?

[copper surge]

I am not happy with the results but its a team

[torn thorn]

am i supposed to just icebreak with 7 cost ukarin

[sonic crater]

just use them instead of nagisa and switch csena with natsu or something

[fleet narwhal]

ye

[sonic crater]

yes

[atomic arrow]

tor clearer

[fleet narwhal]

you can do taht

[sonic crater]

[copper surge]

Wow, I am slacking

[torn thorn]

but i saved nagisa just for this..

[true shale]

The reason I say that idk if it would even matter, is because Kokona and I.Mari survive missiles, so...

[torn thorn]

also my serina wont 1tap

[sonic crater]

highly preferable getting heater overheat asap

lol

if u use csena it'll be super freaking slow

[loud knoll]

what about your f2p satsuko?

[torn thorn]

used her on team 1

[sonic crater]

uhhh

what

right

serina need lb iirc

u can just hanae ig

tho she needs specific adjustment

if u dont mind lbing serina and t10 her then iirc she can overheat at the start

idt it needs ue 60? not sure

[torn thorn]

i thought it needed ue60

i do have her ue50 and lb alr

[true shale]

Serina UE60 LB25 Heal T10 neck + B29

[sonic crater]

huh

b29 huh

lemme check mine

[true shale]

I think. I haven't checked.

[sonic crater]

i remember that high check

was for t9 necklace

[true shale]

Idk, I assumed T10

[sonic crater]

did that hagfcker upload his vid.....

uhhh gimme a moment

lemme look into some hw

yeah coha was right ig

weirdge did my serina bond is that high

[true shale]

Probably almost exactly from what I can tell.

I think she gets it to literally exactly 99.1%

[sonic crater]

did xerina give healing i forgot...

sec

[true shale]

Because if you wait for a decay, then the cumulative heat number on the UI actually rounds down

[sonic crater]

wait

what

[true shale]

She's been with you from Day 1

[true shale]

Oh, maybe not?

[sonic crater]

i did pull off uhh

30-35m

with this serina

with random bullshit rot

[true shale]

Maybe B29 was only needed for UE50?

[sonic crater]

tho mine is more stacked

[sonic crater]

the jp vid mentioned the exact investment u said tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pk0YtIQ49g

[true shale]

[sonic crater]

i'll just wait for bee to upload his clear

he might have lower investment

[true shale]

I picked that number up from a second hand source a few days ago

And since I was already above that investment, it wasn't of great concern to me.

[sonic crater]

the stats check is just for the first overheat right?

[true shale]

Yeah

[sonic crater]

ok then

[true shale]

We'll get the buff from a broken ice each time after

Do you remember what the required heal number is exactly?

[sonic crater]

165k

[true shale]

We can mess around on the calculator

[sonic crater]

uhhh wait coha

reminds me

[true shale]

No no, it doesn't start at 0%

[torn thorn]

figured out a potential strat

[sonic crater]

oh

[torn thorn]

sacrifical kokona

[sonic crater]

yeah i was

gonna ask u that also

[torn thorn]

[sonic crater]

💀

sorry yeah idk the exact hp at the start also

[true shale]

I think it's 2/3rds but not exactly sure

UI says "67%"

It's probably 2/3rds. 55k sounds familiar.

[lyric hatch]

Pretty sure it starts at 70%

[sonic crater]

looks off

[true shale]

But we also don't need to get the heater all the way to 100%, iirc.

It's like Hieronymus lantern

[true shale]

It only needs to get to 99.1%, or something like that?

[sonic crater]

yeah this match i think?

[sonic crater]

wait really?

[young lotus]

Ye

[true shale]

I'm hazy on the exact numbers, but yes.

[young lotus]

There's a bit of leeway

[old rose]

it's apparently anything above 99%

[sonic crater]

:o

[true shale]

Do you remember what it is exactly? My memory fails me.

[old rose]

but from a little bit of testing myself I have overheated even below 99%

[torn thorn]

alright i think i have enough time to cook something

[sonic crater]

ig that explained why b25 works

[young lotus]

I dont remember

[atomic arrow]

trying to get silly

[sonic crater]

where do people usually archive this info? idt ijw has it right?

[true shale]

They ought to. @harsh dragon

See if you can figure out where the B29 comes from

[young lotus]

But iirc its

Lb 25 heal, ue60, b24 serina?

With t10

And that should hit the threshold

[sonic crater]

yeah should be above 99% even if it's only 1 digit then

cuz if it were to be 99.1% then my serina cant hit it

[true shale]

What happens if you assume the heater starts at 2/3rds instead of 67%?

[sonic crater]

way off

sec

[true shale]

It's just 55k lol

[frozen birch]

how exciting, guess lunatic Binah is super free lol

[true shale]

99% of 165k - 110k should be ~53.35k

[sonic crater]

oh wait

u're right

[frozen birch]

its a good day to have a hyper invested Mine who will guaranteed not die on Binah

[sonic crater]

tho yeah it's higher

[frozen birch]

plus two def downs

[sonic crater]

i think tha 67% sounds more believable

[frozen birch]

Kokona doesn't survive missiles tho i imagine

[young lotus]

It could just be

99.01%

Threshold

[sonic crater]

or anything as long as u pass that 99% yeah

even if it were like

[lament gyro]

Makes krkg lun look hard lmao

[sonic crater]

99.001% or something

[true shale]

They must have calculated from a 67% starting point then. But I still don't see where the mistake was that caused them to arrive at the erroneous B29

[frozen birch]

i mean mechanically Binah do just be like that lol

[true shale]

Unless SchaleDB has a rounding error that was fixed in the interim.

[summer dew]

iirc it was more than 99.01 but less than 99.10

[sonic crater]

the one from my vid isnt exactly stating it must be b29 but i assume the source which u got it from stated that explicitly?

[obsidian heath]

wrong
the first few torments were hard

[feral jetty]

she has to be able to survive missiles for the team to be possible in the first place

[true shale]

The SchaleDB calculator is not precisely correct, fyi

[feral jetty]

because luna binah starts the fight with missiles now

[sonic crater]

oh

[young lotus]

https://youtu.be/2pk0YtIQ49g

[old rose]

i mean you can check the healing stat in game as well

[young lotus]

This vid

[old rose]

and multiply

[young lotus]

Overcharges

[true shale]

Normally when people calculate things to this precision they're accurate about it, but maybe there was a miscommunication?

[young lotus]

With b24 serina

Either that or you need ue50 b49 serina

[feral jetty]

a lot of units you wouldn't think should be able to survive missiles are able to now

[young lotus]

Healing lb is a given

[feral jetty]

because of how they changed missile multipliers

on top of cover being buffed

[cyan ether]

imari survives even

[true shale]

Maybe we should pin this in the raid channel?

[cyan ether]

but man im disappointed, this boss shouldve had 100m hp or something

[young lotus]

I have mixed feelings

Mech changes are great

Numbers too low

[true shale]

I agree

[young lotus]

But it means lunatic being more accessible is a good thing

But it also gets fucke

[sonic crater]

probably cuz my b25 works...

[cyan ether]

i thought dtsukuyo was going to be core lol

[young lotus]

Because raid schedule and cycle means months gap for before bullying binah

So accessibility isnt even a thing

[true shale]

Torment got the changes too, so I don't think Lunatic needs to make any concessions for accessibility.

[copper crescent]

75m hp 9.5k def 15m groggy would've been okay ig

[steep vortex]

i agree there, atleast with 100mil we could’ve seen atleast 3 teams

[feral jetty]

it's really funny because they clearly made the new cover mechanic in order to make dtsukuyo be core and fuck us over

but instead it ended up being what made the raid so free

[true shale]

Yeah, if feels like an oversight of some kind.

[sonic crater]

personally yeah...

[copper crescent]

Or 90m hp 18m groggy

[young lotus]

Cover mech is good

Fuck the acc and stab mald

[steep vortex]

another raid ruined by an oversight

[young lotus]

But they could have given binah more atk

[copper crescent]

Yeah mechanics good stats bad

[true shale]

Moreover the new cover mechanic seems to support the philosophy of deploying a large portion of our roster into the raid.

[obsidian heath]

I mean 50M isn't an oversight
it's low at first sight

[west perch]

so anyways luna binah is free

[copper crescent]

Yes

[west perch]

I'll add it to my list

[sonic crater]

trust the process 150m shiro 175m kuro lunatic srkr as the compensation

[west perch]

I even have fuyu so that's funny

[copper crescent]

It's probably easier than my first binah tor with kisaki

[west perch]

who the heck do I even borrow?

like I can do no borrow

[feral jetty]

devs: this mechanic is genius! it lets us sell dtsukuyo because most tanks can't take cover and will just get shredded by the boss!
players: oh so it means we can run no tank and just use a healer to keep mika alive

[steep vortex]

i’m just gonna borrow skanna

[copper crescent]

Not even a healer

[feral jetty]

though again even if you do use dtsukuyo

the hp is so low that it'd probably be 2pan anyway

[west perch]

^

50m is so

like

[cyan ether]

my kanna and dkayoko collecting dust until next difficulty again

[steep vortex]

yeah idk what they were thinking with the 50m hp

[west perch]

dude they introduced bhimari and I started getitng cold feet

[feral jetty]

dkayoko continues to be a scam

[cyan ether]

HC unit

[true shale]

This Kokona strat was even a theoretical speedrun on the Binah Torment debut, though it was too hard to pull off for any players at the time. It also still resulted in a 3-pan, iirc.

Which is to say, that Luna debut is literally easier than the Torment debut in a head-to-head contemporary comparison

That is not okay

[cyan ether]

4pan

it was the last team that was too hard tho

[feral jetty]

i hope we still keep that new cover mechanic at least

[cyan ether]

yuzu crit mald nonsense

[feral jetty]

it's still better than the stab and acc debuff

[copper crescent]

I mean, they're not gonna change mechanic until next diff

[true shale]

Cover mechanic is good.

[sonic crater]

yeah honestly everything else is fine even the atk stats and whatnot

it just

[cyan ether]

and they still didnt remove his crit…

[sonic crater]

the hp

lol

[true shale]

I think it's safe to say that we'll keep the cover mechanic, since they retroactively added it to all difficulties.

[sonic crater]

even 75m would have been fine

[copper crescent]

I thought you were stronger ahh meme

[true shale]

The statline is clearly the problem.

What even is his attack stat, do we know?

[sonic crater]

30k

[feral jetty]

my lvl 79 jp account was able to clear torment thanks to the cover mechanic lol

[copper crescent]

Same as tor

[sonic crater]

same as torment

[west perch]

Exact same as tor

[copper crescent]

But with 50% dmg reduction

[sonic crater]

defense only 400 higher

groggy went from 6.5 to 10m

[copper crescent]

So more like 15k atk

[sonic crater]

it's really just the hp

[true shale]

[west perch]

The groggy to HP ratio also went down

[sonic crater]

ah yeah

[true shale]

It's several stats.

He really does need higher offensive pressure to prevent Mika/S.Kanna from tanking

[copper crescent]

Binah is stats check raid

[sonic crater]

oh

ok yeah that's fair

mika tanking like

1 hour in

is disgusting

lol

[copper crescent]

Groggy hp too

[sonic crater]

i think the groggy is fine?

[true shale]

Having to spend a teamslot on a dedicated tank inhibits our damage by a lot.

[sonic crater]

personally it's the atk and hp

[cyan ether]

they tried to make him more of a “kill-you-first” boss i think

[sonic crater]

everything else looks fine

[cyan ether]

but it failed

[copper crescent]

Kill you first boss when he didn't kill you first

[sonic crater]

yeah deniki got 1 extra mika ex thx to kokona

[true shale]

Hard to say, at a glance. I don't even know where missiles/sandstorm goes in the timeline right now. But it might be fine.

[cyan ether]

get staggered
get staggered
get staggered

[feral jetty]

it's so funny it's like they completely forgot that mika can take cover

[true shale]

We'd want to increase groggy proportional to HP though

[sonic crater]

atm i dont see people utilizing sandstorm or missile cancel but i might be wrong

[true shale]

4 groggy opportunities is already very high.

[sonic crater]

so ig yeah maybe true....

[west perch]

[pallid inlet]

What now

[true shale]

That's because:

1. We're just killing him before he casts them
2. Those moves aren't going to kill us if they hit anyway

[sonic crater]

we wait for new lun

[sonic crater]

yeah i agree

💀

[cyan ether]

the mika team is groggying before sandstorm

[west perch]

I can't believe they brought back mika tanking when they purposely killed it in torment

[cyan ether]

not even cancelling the skill

[sonic crater]

[feral jetty]

so i guess i'm not pulling fuyu then lol

[sonic crater]

nah just double skanna

lul

[west perch]

I pulled fuyu for hiero and hopefully that one's not a lunament either

[sonic crater]

funny how so far

[cyan ether]

trust her NS yields more dmg than skanna

[sonic crater]

only peroro did the mech change

correctly

and actually make it impactful

[cyan ether]

i pulled fuyu to bald kaiten anyway

[sonic crater]

🦖

[fleet narwhal]

i mean, didnt greg do that too

[true shale]

Greg was good, imo

[sonic crater]

dhina still slip in

and did 320m

[true shale]

And Goz too

[sonic crater]

💀 💀

[west perch]

the other lunatics had the decency to at least be hard

[true shale]

I also liked Hod mech change, tbh

[fleet narwhal]

sure but it made it impactful

[sonic crater]

i didnt count goz cuz it affect everyone but ig true

[true shale]

But yeah, the raids were still a challenge

Especially with Peroro, it's the statline that makes more of an impact as well

[sonic crater]

yeah but atleast with peroro it kills nykayoko but with greg dhina still live

but since we are getting kei soon then ig you are right

[west perch]

I don't even get to bring out Miyu for this y'know

[sonic crater]

[true shale]

Once powercreep puts us past needing to heal the backline, the Lunatic Peroro laser won't feel much different from the Torment one

[sonic crater]

cuz for greg final goal is making special shine again

[copper crescent]

Groggy setup was a big part of binah planning

[west perch]

well hold on: -9999 on bubble is still a thing

[sonic crater]

it unironically the raid identity

[west perch]

that one stings a ton

[sonic crater]

with peroro it's mostly just be above 50% groggy and u are good

[polar orbit]

2nd ue60 🦖

[sonic crater]

binah need that specific groggy on its early torment

[west perch]

-6m creds

[sonic crater]

owelp now we need to wait

1 more month

for new lunatic

or maybe another rerun