💬gameplay-discussion

[covert spoke]

on lun?

[frozen birch]

UE40 LB25 Healing+HP isnt comfy on torment lol

with all t10 gear

[covert spoke]

idk something wrong there maybe ur not recasting with buff

[frozen birch]

it lives the majority of the time, once ATG kicks in tho

[covert spoke]

but should be fine but

[frozen birch]

I am recasting with buff

[covert spoke]

its good if she dies at end

you want that

[frozen birch]

the shield dies with buff

[covert spoke]

with like 40s left

[frozen birch]

also cause ofc, i need to let the heater die a lot more often

[sonic crater]

ew

dogshit crit

[frozen birch]

like TYuuka generally survives and the shield is very chonky otherwise but once i get too far in, its done for

like with 2 mins left

or no, its at the 1 min 30 second mark

[dull mauve]

[covert spoke]

you tyuuka right

rightwards

to delay wave impact

and heal

she should live

[frozen birch]

yeah im doing that

she dies to the follow up once she got no shield on her

since the ice takes longer to be vulnerable

[covert spoke]

might be casting ex too late ideally you time it so it connects right as shield falls

[frozen birch]

its later ATGs because they're quicker and i need shield to survive among other things

again, TYuuka aint comfy

doable but not comfy

[midnight river]

Hows Julius?

[frozen birch]

Kotori needs to refresh her shield every time she can on team 1 too so its a bit slow there

[odd geyser]

we f2p are here to slacc

[frozen birch]

i'd love an attack down on my Hibiki team but it would hurt her damage a lot

[sonic crater]

oh that works

alright no need to ue skanna

[restive kraken]

Did u raise ur s fubuki

[covert spoke]

Did u raise ur s fubuki

[restive kraken]

I kinda wish I spooked a g pina

[sonic crater]

i dont even have her

ome

[restive kraken]

Would try the double s sakurako comp

[covert spoke]

1 team?

[sonic crater]

it was hibiki skanna team

[fleet narwhal]

Still as dumb as ever

[sonic crater]

roughly 25-26m

[covert spoke]

in p2?

[sonic crater]

yeah

[covert spoke]

?

[sonic crater]

im too lazy to learn the other rot (tyuuka one)

[covert spoke]

3* skanna?

[sonic crater]

yeah

[covert spoke]

how live

[sonic crater]

nah she died during final 1 min but i kind of wnat her to die anyway

[covert spoke]

o

[sonic crater]

since it will be ex spamming session

but uhh

my kotori lived

[covert spoke]

i also dont think skanna is bad to ue...

[sonic crater]

[covert spoke]

surely needed anyways

beener

[sonic crater]

binah looks easy

so

idk

[covert spoke]

hiero

[sonic crater]

she's

dead dead there

ome

[covert spoke]

nuh uh

[sonic crater]

[odd geyser]

nah

[pastel mortar]

Random thought: is there a chance they make a boss with purple attack in the future? Maybe with more green armor students it would be viable.

[frozen birch]

yeah shame TYuuka isnt comfier, even at this invest level....

[grim finch]

huh they lineup so well

[grim finch]

no reason not to

if they are too lazy to make new boss, atk color change on GA is also an option

[sonic crater]

that's free

alright

guess i can just let mimori die on final 1 min

[novel timber]

i hate geb

[grim finch]

easiest luna for real?

[sonic crater]

if u have everyone uhhhhhh

not

sure

personally greg and hod are way easier

[frozen birch]

Satsuki is a miserable experience as per usual

[odd geyser]

UE60 SAtsuko is comfy af

[grim finch]

o right

[odd geyser]

[grim finch]

for ins comp: iwak satsuki skanna imari imine
who is better last slot, boshi or maki

[frozen birch]

tfw you need 100 mil to be safe and can only barely make 80 mil on average

[polar orbit]

i would boshi so you have someone to tank the auto attacks

[odd geyser]

are you missing someone cj?

[frozen birch]

UAsuna since the SKanna variant is struggling

[sonic crater]

imine can tank

lol

[grim finch]

mine can tank easily tho

[polar orbit]

oh

didn't see mine

maki then

[grim finch]

i used a lot of satsuki outside of maki def down earlier

feel like its more trouble

boshi sounds comfy

[tidal tree]

Any idea what ext score you need for NA plat?

[polar orbit]

probably omega speedrun

[old rose]

sub 1 minute ideally

[grim finch]

kill it in 4 ex

[tidal tree]

I did do that

Was looking for a benchmark for score

[polar orbit]

i would look up the speedrun on souriki border

copy it

[tidal tree]

Is that a website

[polar orbit]

https://www.souriki-border.com/

[ashen goblet]

You need a tor team to speedrun ext.

Whales should leave some plankton for little fishes like me.

[frozen birch]

yeah thats it, again im not doing torment lmao. Satsuki is just miserable and I want UAsuna for comfier rot+more average damage

right, 100 mil is only possible with SKanna if she's UE40....

[fickle lichen]

Should i whale on monthly pyroxenes?

[frozen birch]

if you're buying anything monthly it should only be the ticket packs

[fickle lichen]

Oh the one you can use to farm more itens?

[frozen birch]

ye, it also reduces Scrimmage AP costs to 0 if you buy both packs

[fickle lichen]

Oh

I see

[sonic crater]

give it a few months and u gonna get flooded by UE mats from monthly

the gap is

wild

[frozen birch]

@polar orbit i give up already lol

[polar orbit]

sadge

[frozen birch]

ins slacc it is cause i can't do a comfy torment still

it needs UAsuna so Satsuki's damage stops falling off a cliff sometimes

[grim finch]

wait next rerun and do luna

[frozen birch]

yeah no thanks

[sonic crater]

imagine

3rd geburah rerun

[grim finch]

unless it rerun before uasuna

[frozen birch]

problem is that SKanna needs UE40 for Satsuki to do 100 mil potentially

[grim finch]

[polar orbit]

i feel like skanna is good enough to just do the ue40

[frozen birch]

she needs the UE40 for debuff retention

[polar orbit]

i'd do it

[frozen birch]

i dont have ligma sadly

what little i have is saved for MReisa

[sonic crater]

1.5k ligma for ue 40 skanna also

💀

[frozen birch]

but yeah Satsuki is just a miserable experience is all

[cyan ether]

free...

[polar orbit]

i'd do it

[frozen birch]

54% crit paired with 70% stab is just

its miserable

nothing but misery

[sonic crater]

wtf leviathan.....

[frozen birch]

Satsuki's base crit is like

40% isnt it

[sonic crater]

uhhh

[cyan ether]

48.7

[sonic crater]

48.7% yeah

[frozen birch]

yuck.

once i can actually get 100 mil damage potential on deck, i'll do torment.

cause the Hibiki team only manages like, 8-9 mil.

[sonic crater]

uhhhh

what's the full team?

for hibiki?

[frozen birch]

im using Reisa TYuuka Maki Akane Serina Hibiki. Hibiki is UE50. I might've low balled cause i forgot to check how much it was doing when TYuuka dies at 1:30 left on the clock

[covert spoke]

yeah that team doesnt work at all

[frozen birch]

i was told it was fine

[lilac solar]

where special buffer

[frozen birch]

they're...on the other teams lol

[covert spoke]

i think you need hanae for that team

[grim finch]

where kok

[frozen birch]

I dont have UAsuna so yeah

[grim finch]

where kogaru

[frozen birch]

Kok doesn't survive on torment at all

[grim finch]

right

[frozen birch]

First team before Satsuki team is

SHanako Koharu Kotori SMiyako Mashiro Nagisa

so Koharu is there

[grim finch]

hmm can kok survive p1 with tyuuka

[covert spoke]

how much does it do

[frozen birch]

like 14 mil

[covert spoke]

thats really low

is it not full duration

[frozen birch]

no since a single major attack just nukes Kokona for 54k damage

[covert spoke]

or you only want 14m

[frozen birch]

it is cause its p1

Mashiro is UE60 with M777

[covert spoke]

is she not bg2...?

[frozen birch]

she has BG2 for the guaranteed procs via basic+ stacks yes

[covert spoke]

i do not think that ukarin team is good at all

i think that is where you should place kokona

[frozen birch]

and have her die immediately, i mean yeah

[covert spoke]

yeah

[frozen birch]

i was saving Kokona for a very weak DHina throw on p2

but

nah im just not malding Satsuki when that super team cannot

do at least potentially 100 mil

[covert spoke]

it can...?

[frozen birch]

it cant without SKanna at UE40

[covert spoke]

it can...

[frozen birch]

for the debuff retention

Satsuki in general is a miserable experience when her damage falls by 90% even with heater and full buffs at times

[zealous tusk]

Dang really wish there's a Rio equivalent for special students looks like extreme is a bit out of my reach for now

[sonic crater]

this looks

way too low

[frozen birch]

Geb is generally the most hyper oppressive raid for a reason

[frozen birch]

maybe i just was throwing a bit too much cause TYuuka needs to refresh her shield A LOT

like, before every major attack and slightly inbetween each attack wave especially when ice is on field

[sonic crater]

ur tyuuka didnt take any auto right?

ik reisa is there but

[frozen birch]

no autos ye

[sonic crater]

double checking

hmmm

[zealous tusk]

Can only reach 7m damage but that's with Uasuna mashiro and satsuki already

[sonic crater]

honestly even kotori refreshing shield like crazy

[frozen birch]

yep

and even during p1 i have to refresh Kotori shield a lot

[sonic crater]

i just assume it needs specific rot

cuz 7-8m tyuuka sounds

odd

[zealous tusk]

Guess I'm chilling in hardcore

[frozen birch]

it might be a little tight, i dont think its supposed to be that bad

i was just prolly rotating wrong

on that anyways, the real crux is

my Satsuki team isnt capable of pushing at least 90-100 mil

[sonic crater]

yeah

[frozen birch]

so really

Imma need UAsuna (or SKanna UE40) before I have a comfy torment

[covert spoke]

literally just press random buttons with maki akane healer x x satsuki borrow and u clear ext

besides maki ex

[frozen birch]

ah well, i mean this was definitely my comfiest deal yet cause the first two teams i run get into p2 no problem

i just need Satsuki to do more damage so the Hibiki team can clean up a bit more before UKarin

[frozen birch]

Again, these are the teams

[covert spoke]

yeah i mean i think you can do like

[frozen birch]

if I could get SKanna into the Hibiki team after i get UAsuna that would be great.

[sonic crater]

oh u need sub 27m for ukarin here huh

[frozen birch]

mm

[covert spoke]

14m - > 90m - > 24m -> 6m

try building from that

[frozen birch]

perhaps. Satsuki is just a miserable uncomfy experience is all

[covert spoke]

and 1 ukarin ex

[sonic crater]

man the bug fix really kill hibiki team damage

she used to be able to do 30m+ with skanna

[frozen birch]

Satsuki losing 90% of her damage randomly with everything active is just

not fun

but that's 54% crit rate and 70% stab for you

handgun DPS suck even if they have something to counteract those

Nozomi has the decency to be guaranteed crits to mitigate the awful 70% stab

even DKayo has guaranteed crit but not all the time ofc so, still not great

[frozen birch]

i'll try. getting the 90m is the problem since Satsuki is so miserable

and im following the correct rot (albeit i do need to cost overflow at points)

UAsuna's variant causes no overflow

[feral jetty]

wait what's the bug what got fixed

[frozen birch]

heater now ramps up degrading if

its on overheat for too long

[feral jetty]

oh that

[frozen birch]

anyways, i think i give up again

[old rose]

give up -> give up again

[crude sable]

I believe in CJ

[frozen birch]

once Satsuki team is capable of 100 mil potentially that will work.

but until then, I give lol

[frozen birch]

just be like that, I'm not spending another 5+ hours even on this

and even if i get it on mock it wont be consistent for a real ticket

[west perch]

hm, you're just struggling on the main team?

[west perch]

that won't help btw

like your problem is baseline satsuki

I'm not sure where the issue even is since I can somewhat consistently get a 90m run in at bare minimum
and I often don't accept those runs since it's too low on damage variance

[frozen birch]

I’m borrowing a UE50 one and not cancelling her basic, she’s not critting and low rolling a lot on average

I don’t have a UE60 borrow cause that would semi help with the cost overflow by a bit

[frozen birch]

The lack of consistency is indeed the main problem

[lilac solar]

mocked a sub 2 minute extreme run

[frozen birch]

UAsuna would at least make the rotation smoother cause

[lilac solar]

my poor uasuna's EX isn't maxed so I could get it even lower

[frozen birch]

I wouldn’t need to hold SRoko constantly and overlap with SKanna in the worst case

UAsuna also has the best armor for it so i could risk the heater dying for longer

[snow portal]

Are you not on my list?

[frozen birch]

afaik no cause i hit gold during something so I removed myself

[frozen birch]

forgot what it was tho

heck i'd need to be removed since i wouldnt get the plat equivalent on FRR once thats on our ID cards if it isnt already

but yeah, if only the Satsuki team could be more consistent I'd feel better about this

ptsd flashbacks of poor damage is really getting to me

[snow portal]

Oh I only care about raid plats

[frozen birch]

Oh.

Oops

[frozen birch]

Well I’m not gonna do torment atp so, please don’t worry Azure lol

[snow portal]

I mean if papi doesn't show up today then you can take his slot

At that point it'll be two weeks of him being gone

[frozen birch]

I promise to do Geb torment once I get UAsuna.

[snow portal]

[frozen birch]

Just for consistency

[snow portal]

INS is still plat anyways

[frozen birch]

Cause I’m sick of the rot constantly cost overflowing

[young lotus]

Are you self cooking

[frozen birch]

I should try and mald the insane wanpan at least so maybe I’ll borrow your Satsuki for that. Once I get back in tho

[frozen birch]

It’s more ingrained into me from 40 total hours of mocking in the past

Still can’t get it cause Satsuki damage falls off a cliff sometimes even with all buffs

[young lotus]

What hw are you even trying to copy

[snow portal]

[frozen birch]

I mean I forgot the specific one I looked at, but it’s just ingrained into me from the last two runs

Tends to happen when you do 7 hours straight mocking it

[young lotus]

[frozen birch]

But again, the rot aside

Problem is lack of consistency

With UAsuna I would at least be able to hit Geb with SRoko and not overflow constantly

[wanton pilot]

I alt tabbed fully zoomed out, but after I alt tabbed in my camera was violently zoomed in at this spot

[proven dove]

It happens quite a bit with satsuki (idk about gpina) when following hw

[frozen birch]

Well yeah

[frozen birch]

54 crit at best be like that

Plus 70% stab from being a handgun

It’s never comfy

[proven dove]

Geburah for me requires quite the focus, that's why today I just cleared and tomorrow I'll mock luna

[young lotus]

[proven dove]

I'm decaffeinated and I need to get used to it

[west perch]

geb is now comfy to me, I'm more nervous about yesod

[frozen birch]

I’m just not spending another 7-8 hours mocking to get this figured out only to not have the luck on real ticket lol

[west perch]

yesod looks stressful man

[young lotus]

Global gonna get skill issued by extreme yesod

Mark my words

[frozen birch]

lol. I’ll watch causew for mechanics first

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-roman-reigns-hes-history-hes-gone-he-is-history-gif-20296311

[young lotus]

They'll just shoot the boss and ignore the pillars

And get fucked by the boss

And cry

[frozen birch]

Anyways I hope UAsuna reruns at some point.

[young lotus]

She will

[proven dove]

I just thought so when I started thinking which raids require focus to me

[young lotus]

She's not too far after idol banner and those reran in jp

[frozen birch]

Cause I need the most consistent Satsuki team at least before I clear Geb torment reliably. Unless I maybe wanna UE40 SKanna before then

[snow portal]

Surely, but let's hope the rerun isn't at a time when you'd be dry or need to pull something else

[proven dove]

I too am waiting for seia rerun. But I hope she won't come soon after jp fes so I get to farm more pyros :p

[spice spoke]

It can't be too far away, right?

[atomic arrow]

too difficult ☹️

[young lotus]

Tbh raids SHOULD require a braincell or two

[crude sable]

Im kinda looking forward to yesod ngl, looks like a fun raid

[young lotus]

Especially for insane+

[spice spoke]

UAsuna was a couple months after Idols

[proven dove]

Yeah only pajama rerun between fes and seia rerun

[frozen birch]

Hopefully not….but only time will tell.

Geb torment is a bit of a priority eventually tho so, I would prefer it.

It’ll depend on what’s around

[proven dove]

Trying to 1pan ?

[atomic arrow]

3 teams used...

[spice spoke]

that would be absurd work for a 1pan, right?

like impossible

[young lotus]

Should I risk it and run torment geb right now while at work

[polar orbit]

no

[proven dove]

I'm sure you have enough teams to clean up whatever error you might do during run :p

[proven dove]

What ? Ayyecs don't you have like everyone ?

[snow portal]

Aight I got a some room; BFUTTXBE

[atomic arrow]

I'm skill issued

[frozen birch]

One mo

[proven dove]

1pan with boshino degenerate strat is possible.

[frozen birch]

Can I keep you until end of the raid

[proven dove]

no u_u Just follow the kkarchives torment hw, and clean up whatever 30m hp left

I remember you being quite skillful in chesed

[frozen birch]

I’m prolly only doing insane for it but that should be fine.

[atomic arrow]

but chesed is easy

[proven dove]

The yellow mika use in purple tor is tricky

[frozen birch]

Sent. I’m Christopher.

But anyways

Since plat is still insane I’ll just slacc

Today is the only day I can raid proper anyways

Since I have irl sensei work next few days

[snow portal]

Yeah just remember, I only care about keeping raid plat on the friends list for decent-to-strong borrows lmao

[frozen birch]

And then other work over weekend

[snow portal]

PvP and FRR be damned

[frozen birch]

Gotcha.

Not like you’d need to borrow my Mine for something like Greg since we’re both Mine fans

[snow portal]

Shiiidd making it easier for a unit to survive is no problem to me

[frozen birch]

Anyways, thanks Azure imma try a comfier ins wanpan tomorrow

[snow portal]

At my point I usually just borrow for a second team dps or more bulky supports if I haven't done it myself

Usually it's just units I neglect to build myself

Like Nozomi

Which I still need to do

But that's a lot of eligma

[atomic arrow]

you think this team could finish 15m (after raising specials)

[snow portal]

Probably not

[atomic arrow]

really?

[snow portal]

Yes

[atomic arrow]

☹️

[snow portal]

You'll probably need another team

[atomic arrow]

what about 3* satsuki over u.karin

[dim frigate]

4 ukarin shots for 15 mil sounds doable

[west perch]

if it lasts 4 mins ye

which it should

the weakest link there is ssaki unironically

[atomic arrow]

guh

[west perch]

her HP is too low and dies randomly even with atk down

[proven dove]

Yes

But a bit tricky

[atomic arrow]

oh I need a repo, duh

[snow portal]

I pretty much didn't see it happening since survival looked on the low end and U.Karin is only 4*

[west perch]

hey my 4* ukarin could finish 15m on debut geb

[snow portal]

You said raise, but I don't even know by how much you intended to invest

[west perch]

don't underestimate her

it just that she jumped up to like 25m at UE30

[snow portal]

How interesting

[proven dove]

Ayyecs is rich in resources, I think also he may have her elephs but just didn't ue her

[snow portal]

Then he should say that

[proven dove]

But yeah survival is the issue

[atomic arrow]

now problem is kotori can't live past first atg

gonna try throwing more teams before transition

[frozen birch]

im using Kotori on p1 since her shield honestly is too weak for p2

[atomic arrow]

ah

[frozen birch]

not that TYuuka is any better tbh but at least TYuuka is generally comfy enough

and idk about throwing a DHina team in p2 atp

[quiet raft]

nvm saying Geburah ex is hard, it's actually kind of free after levelling Kogari

Koharu*

[west perch]

df fuyu

oh, ext.

[quiet raft]

Insane sounds actually insane however cuz of reposition req plus mystic dmg

I have Akane lvl 1

[quiet raft]

And no Mimori to repo, heard of Boshi forcing movement due to her ex but heard it's just for speedruns

[round kayak]

dont do that

at all

[west perch]

it's a speedrun strat for a reason

im doing lunatic and I don't dare touch that

which probably says enough on its own, yeah?

[quiet raft]

yes

[old rose]

if you are sincerely desperate...

[quiet raft]

What? Kotori?

[loud knoll]

insane happens to have more than 3 times more health, so even if you obtain reposition and fix survival somehow it will be not very close to the clear

[quiet raft]

iirc shizuko S does have reposition let me check back again if I'm mistaken

[polar orbit]

she can reposition and shield

[quiet raft]

[round kayak]

but you wouldnt use her unless its with the dhina bodythrow team

cause the special slots would be contested

[quiet raft]

does however sound like would take away from overall damage rotation than just using iwak/Mimori

[fickle lichen]

Can i just target the iceberg on gebura fight?

[quiet raft]

yes, after invul is done

[fickle lichen]

uh invul?

[quiet raft]

it has 2.5 seconds of invulnerability

and 20 of shield

[frozen birch]

This is generally the most this team can do cause Mashiro cannot get two stacks of basic for each EX

[lost shell]

there is a barrier that has 300% of iceberg HP , invulnerable for 2.5s
usually you wait 20 seconds for the iceberg shield gone and decrease by 80% max hp so its easier to target in

[frozen birch]

Mashiro's damage on average is pretty terrible ngl

[fickle lichen]

Oh

[frozen birch]

since if she doesnt get the bonus damage on ex it hits for nothing

but also ofc low crit

[lost shell]

u need to fix your rot tbh
i expect that to deal 20m dmg
or your mashiro low investment

[fickle lichen]

So on gebura my rank can decrease?

[frozen birch]

not much i can do about rot, Mashiro is UE60 M7777 with t9 gear. cant rush her skills since no nebras

[round kayak]

if there are people who got a higher score than you then your rank will naturally decrease

[stable pollen]

Anyone have UE60 Satsuki borrow?

[quiet raft]

problem is geburah's attacks while heal drops to 1hp

[frozen birch]

Also, Kotori needs to refresh her shield constantly i cant wait for hypothermia to build up more

[lost shell]

not a problem tbh just 1 torpede attacks
quick break ice + heal
easily survive

[quiet raft]

what even is this Geburah rotation?

[round kayak]

dhina team huh

[quiet raft]

It was when I was kind of desperate for ideas till I asked

[untold tusk]

What cost was UAsuna EX skill again was 3?

[fleet narwhal]

shanako + maki would provide more value there over shoshino and dhina

[frozen birch]

so i guess UE60 M777 T9 across the board is low invest

[untold tusk]

I thought UAsuna EX skill cost was 3 or 4
So is 3 I note that then

[lost shell]

this does 20m

[tender olive]

Even s.saki dies her sub skill remains effective in the whole raid?

[lost shell]

no

[tender olive]

Damn

[frozen birch]

well i cant afford TYuuka on p1 since she's more useful on p2 since Kotori cant survive p2

SHanako is a weaker def down so there's that

Maki do be the strongest basic def down

[lost shell]

that doesn't change anything
i use p2 kotori and that still works

[round kayak]

pain

[frozen birch]

p2 Kotori just dies tho, go figure. i dont have any attack downs so even TYuuka UE40 LB25 Healing+HP dies at 1:30

[lost shell]

yeah sure

[summer dew]

but you kinda knew what you were walking into right? 👨‍🦲

[frozen birch]

yeah no clue how your Kotori survives when a single aoe downs her shield lol. its a weak shield

[loud knoll]

can't use imine instead of kotori?

[lost shell]

be fast

just be fast

kekw

[frozen birch]

not on team 1 that's for sure, idols stick together

duc just has way better invest than I do

given since duc does lunatic

Mashiro just sucks for damage output

[lost shell]

i could do a p2 guide on youtube since LUN release but at that time i played on mobile so no recording then

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-kitty-softpaws-gif-5189271525576822491

[round kayak]

100% free raid

[frozen birch]

anyways Mashiro is just poor for damage since

gotta gamble and cant get two stacks of basic+ each time i hit geb

and if she doesnt have that proc she does no damage

[atomic arrow]

gonna try some of these

[steep vortex]

are you just learning boshi repo on insane lol

[lost shell]

boji repo

🥀

[round kayak]

nope im just trying out sfoob rots for boji repo on ins

[steep vortex]

i see

[loud knoll]

hibiki does more than mashiro, borrowed each for extreme to see what happens

[summer dew]

thats a tix run tho

[steep vortex]

i think i’m just gonna slacc and not boshi repo

[round kayak]

there's more than enough time dw

[summer dew]

[frozen birch]

helps that Hibiki basic+ actually does damage

Mashiro doesnt

Mashiro also doesnt double ex rot well

[summer dew]

yeah this is fine, im sure nothing will break or burn

[loud knoll]

mashiro has that chance based more damage on ex thing

which is apparently not too good

[frozen birch]

since Mashiro can only get that guaranteed extra damage once

every 2 basics

[quiet raft]

dang

[steep vortex]

how much does a normal ue30 ukarin team do

[quiet raft]

with that many teams I think I'll stick to extreme for sanity and resources

[fleet narwhal]

i know i can deal 20m + with ue30 ukarin solo dps

i mean, sorta depends on what sorta ukarin team you're runnin

[steep vortex]

oh free

[quiet raft]

how much hp does insane have?

[summer dew]

87

[steep vortex]

i can do 90-100 mil with satsuki team, then the rest with hibiki and ukarin

[quiet raft]

ugh...

[round kayak]

lovely

[summer dew]

hi deno

i mean not deno

[round kayak]

alright time to booth the repo out

🔪

[loud knoll]

Also @wanton pilot Satsuki is so fat I no longer need clean up somehow

[tidal tree]

What's a good amount of damage for first team? Mostly focused on keeping people alive here (ins)

[frozen birch]

okay guaranteed my TYuuka dies by 1 min left

[steep vortex]

how built is your tyuuka

[rough nebula]

geburah insane should've been torment wtf

[frozen birch]

UE40 LB25 Healing+HP T10 gear across the board

[steep vortex]

wowie, what team are you using her on

[frozen birch]

she dies cause of ATG into a quick AoE by 1 min

[round kayak]

wait hold on wrong dmg

[frozen birch]

Reisa TYuuka Maki Akane Serina Hibiki

[wanton pilot]

She has secret chinese crit buff, but don't tell nexon

[steep vortex]

https://youtu.be/feo8TFNnhZM?si=SKcgG0s8E-qVEce9 try this

unless your satsuko isn’t ue40+

[frozen birch]

only UE30 so yeah

[steep vortex]

ah rip

[frozen birch]

also SKanna's on the idol team already

[steep vortex]

oh you don’t have asuna?

[round kayak]

69.6m (should be >20% hp for ukarin setup)

[frozen birch]

hence my dilemma cause

[steep vortex]

i see

[frozen birch]

the idol Satsuki team actually overflows cost constantly

because of it

see on the UAsuna version there's always a buff you can fire and refresh

while your cost recovery is up from the heater

SKanna version I'd have to waste SRoko and overlap with SKanna on Geb

and if i do that, it means ice break isnt as soon as shield drops lol

so really, the crux of the matter is the Satsuki team not being consistent

and it cant hit 80 mil on average let alone the 90 mil i need minimum

100 mil potential with UAsuna

[snow portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1367422874016813206/caption-1.gif?ex=6996260a&is=6994d48a&hm=2f5f1aa9074c6efac0d9d5315a6f9425aaf01a5f64b200dd609429d50a44f1fa&

[summer dew]

hmm

im looking at raid lobby but maybe i will just go to bed instead

yeah nah it's izunasleep time

[snow portal]

The the solution is shrimple
Just UE60 them both

[frozen birch]

honestly even with that i'd overflow

cause i cant burn anyone

[loud knoll]

tried and true f2p solutions

[quartz remnant]

6600 are f2p

[frozen birch]

I wish Satsuki wasn't so inconsistent but that's just handguns

[quartz remnant]

T10 watch does make a difference

But uhh

Still need a bit of luck

[round kayak]

I dunno about that, I cant feel it at all

[frozen birch]

54 crit rate plus 70% stab is the killer

[round kayak]

[odd geyser]

ue60 satsuko comfy af

[snow portal]

This will be our hell until they release limited red ST dps for Special slot

[frozen birch]

fr

[obsidian heath]

satsuki's hg is a problem but you're overblowing it
the ex is 12-tick

[frozen birch]

when she can suddenly lose 90% of her damage output even with buffs up, i aint overblowing it.

[obsidian heath]

she can't

[frozen birch]

she does not have guaranteed crit or anything to mitigate it in her kit

[stable pollen]

How do people do this with no movement EX’s

[snow portal]

Comfy? Comfy how?

[frozen birch]

and its not enough hits to make up the diff either

[quartz remnant]

I got geb down to 18m with the imine/satsuki team
Got 3963 in just 5 mins
Sadly my top 1 couldn't hold long since I don't have gpina

[odd geyser]

she let me overflow past 10

[round kayak]

precision and maximum stab/crit balding

[loud knoll]

they use b.hoshino to push students around
Scary stuff

[snow portal]

Only thing comfy about Satsuki are those pillows

[odd geyser]

I said SAtsuko not Satsuki

[frozen birch]

lol

[astral fern]

Bruh none of my frens have satsuki as borrow

[round kayak]

tried it out in ins and her average crits is already at the worse margin for me wtf.....

[astral fern]

THis is going to be rough

[dull mauve]

[odd geyser]

I intentionally borrowed UE50 instead of UE60 for torment

too much dps

[round kayak]

surely in tor she wont be an ass

[quartz remnant]

Is ur satsuki max

[frozen birch]

54 crit chance with buffs included be like that

[quartz remnant]

I borrowed a max one

[round kayak]

borrowed max ye

[frozen birch]

Satsuki has 48 crit chance at base which is just awful

[steep vortex]

your movement ex is boshi btw

gl

[round kayak]

the boshi repo isnt mald but mfking satsuki wont crit

[frozen birch]

nothing besides her pillows are comfy

and its a false sense of comfort

[steep vortex]

its crazy how trivialized geb will be when we get a competent special dps

[quartz remnant]

Just play as quick as possible and you'll have more attempts in a hour

[dusky sapphire]

Ilmao I hate the movement AI

DESPISE IT

[frozen birch]

plus notable reruns ofc

[steep vortex]

worst part of ba

[frozen birch]

pathing AI fr

[dusky sapphire]

I wholeheartedly agree

[frozen birch]

dont forget how angles cause you to lose range

[round kayak]

if I can memorise the whole rot this time

[frozen birch]

hence why you repo to weird places

[steep vortex]

oh, guess its time to ue30

[quartz remnant]

No worries you'll eventually memorise everything once you tried enough

[frozen birch]

ayyy Mine

[quartz remnant]

Or simply quickread

[steep vortex]

[round kayak]

im thinking of using visual aids for this

[quartz remnant]

Wdym

[snow portal]

ur did it

[round kayak]

nothing like the good old tape lined in your monitor screen

[steep vortex]

im so pro

[quartz remnant]

Why don't you...get a second device?

[snow portal]

Probably has an ultrawide

[dusky sapphire]

Congratulations, she is cute and adorable

https://tenor.com/view/mine-blue-archive-pick-up-drag-gif-9974498494502104979

[steep vortex]

you can ping me btw, dw about that

[round kayak]

I do but the delay between pauses tend to waste time for me

also I have to deal with one problem

[frozen birch]

me with UE60 LB25 lol

[round kayak]

which is wappi's basic

hopefully this works now...

[quartz remnant]

Ur pushing her with bhosh?

[proven dove]

Done with smika gears :3 now unto nozomi~

[atomic arrow]

maybe geb isn't for me

[round kayak]

yeah problem is on the last rot between 20m she wont move even after boshi is positioned right between her

[steep vortex]

damn im broke

[round kayak]

so I have to check again the whole hw for delays or misinputs

cause it may be a basic or aa delay

[proven dove]

Is this some glitch in players u_u Like tsubasa, who struggled in geburah tor too

[quartz remnant]

Either ur timing or coordinate is wrong
Or maybe smth you missed like waiting for reload before using EX

[atomic arrow]

[round kayak]

probably, I need to check that part cause thats the only last hurdle for my 1pan lmao

even so I only got that far two times from 30 or so resets

[steep vortex]

alright time to do geb

[quartz remnant]

Ur doing luna right

[round kayak]

nexon give trasuki a mfking BG

nope

[steep vortex]

LMAO someone borrowed my kisaki

[loud knoll]

Hag abuse 💢

[steep vortex]

@snow portal step up your game

[quartz remnant]

If you can 1 pan bhosh in torment you pretty much can do luna
Unless you don't have ukarin or smth

[round kayak]

its the investments

im lacking ligma for breakpoints sadly

UE 30 sfoob and UE 40 iwak

[proven dove]

My satsuki is b34, I was surprised to find a lot of malders with lower satsuki bond than me (I don't bond chase)

[quartz remnant]

For which students
Merely clearing luna doesn't need ue40 sfoob or wappi

[summer dew]

Being trash shouldn't be hinas sole privilege so i just made

[snow portal]

"My lobsters too buttery, my steak is too juicy ahh borrow list"

[steep vortex]

i borrowed yours anyway for extreme dw

[round kayak]

I dont have much of the other teams invested or even owned so the only way I can do luna is with the 2 pan bald

[loud knoll]

Pretty sure I've seen more than those 2. Was it maris?

[round kayak]

only luna im actively planning rn is krkg

cause its cheaper and I have all the units built already (kinda)

[proven dove]

Himari ?

[summer dew]

I'm not sure, I've only seen trash hina so far

[steep vortex]

gonna use my p1 tor hw for insane

[round kayak]

yep

[proven dove]

Niice

[round kayak]

lvl 1 tho

[proven dove]

Not niice

[wanton pilot]

[round kayak]

need to farm....

[summer dew]

But if any single unit makes you restart a good run over and over again, they deserve trash emote

[proven dove]

Insane should work with whatever memory you have using super team

[round kayak]

oh she's lvl 5 lmao

[proven dove]

Lool why ichika ._. was this during the first kurokage ta ?

[summer dew]

Srkr purple tor soon and also purple tiph

[steep vortex]

true!

[summer dew]

Trash nozomi incoming

[wanton pilot]

A clubmate made it, its personal

[quartz remnant]

krkg is so cheap thanks to mreisa
I have some really cheap luna hw and the units that you need to invest specifically is just ukrain (or sastuko if you somehow didn't grind her elephs) and rest is either 3 star or free to grind

[round kayak]

alright it hurts me to say this but you gotta add trash hoshino

peroro incident is real

[summer dew]

I repeat myself

[quartz remnant]

Dps is unbuilt unless b50+ue60

[round kayak]

thanks for the help but ill just stick to my 1pan tor, maybe on next rerun if there's even one

like my hibiki isnt built at all and I dont even have nagisa

[proven dove]

It's likely the hw issue not not the unit (unless maris) the real question is who are the dps units that don't make you restart a good run ? :3

[quartz remnant]

This shit will take more than a year to return
For good

[round kayak]

which is good cause ill have time to prep

2 more fest for ligma farm

[summer dew]

Hmm yeah indeed, why we rely on single big crits so much?

It's just too simple and fun when it works out

[proven dove]

To 1pan

[quartz remnant]

Technically ue40 can work since mood isn't related
And you might not even need hibiki team if ur satsuki does 145m
I have a free ukarin team that does 30m

[proven dove]

Then upscore

[round kayak]

is that the one with kok cause I dont have her too

also no tyuuka

[steep vortex]

lmao, who needs hw

[round kayak]

I had to hard skip her before

[proven dove]

Brick nezo

[round kayak]

[round kayak]

it was her or nykayoko man 🥀

[quartz remnant]

No

https://youtu.be/GxNkvCmiU4A?si=hgMnAxGDpfyewShJ

[proven dove]

I left like 175k hp after super team x)

[stable pollen]

Didnt realize, but I aint doin all that

[round kayak]

oh this is the one ive been watching lmao

[proven dove]

Tyuuka and selector nykayoko eventually :p

[round kayak]

still dont have pjyuuka so I havent tried either

[proven dove]

But I know you had peroro in mind

[round kayak]

yeah

[steep vortex]

free, time for tor

[quartz remnant]

Unfortunate

[round kayak]

made me pull on acari just because of peroro luna

which well...

didnt go as planned

[steep vortex]

thats funny as hell

[round kayak]

two peas in the same pod

[summer dew]

You share "fuck it, hibiki can clean this up" braincell

[quartz remnant]

Not bring 4 students for cost recovery is funny
But this is just insane so

[lyric hatch]

“Just” insane lol

[sleek flicker]

Huh?

[atomic arrow]

one thing I'm looking forward to is if the score will land me around same place as last 2 geb raids

[summer dew]

We only got like skanna and foob reruns in between?

I don't think it's going to make a big diff

[atomic arrow]

🛌

[old rose]

and the satsuki herself

[quartz remnant]

Torment is almost free if you can do insane
Almost

[summer dew]

Oh her too ofc

Anyway, me and raid tomorrow

[lyric hatch]

Bruh how tf am i going to do 50 mil more damage i can barely finish ins

[worldly sun]

wtf slaccyeccs

[atomic arrow]

I'm sorry for being washed ☹️

[quartz remnant]

Oh insane already took you multiple teams
I thought idolet can only do extreme

[worldly sun]

Idolet ins is easy

But you need your own special dps

[quartz remnant]

Weird if that happens but ig

[proven dove]

Try again these days, but do not mock any more for today

[lilac solar]

does anyone remember the plat score cutoff on last gebby

[atomic arrow]

if I try tor again it'll be with a hw

[worldly sun]

Do you have idol ayeccs

[atomic arrow]

yeh

[worldly sun]

Then you got no excuse

[atomic arrow]

my excuse is I have a skill issue

[tropic anchor]

🤝

[lilac solar]

me idollet

[steep vortex]

oh lmaooo

i did too much damage

and entered p2 too early

[tropic anchor]

I think this is it (NA)

[lilac solar]

welp gold looks better anyway

danke schon

[tropic anchor]

Good luck

[lilac solar]

I'm at 15.14m

[tropic anchor]

Time to face the music

[young lotus]

Idolet torment is possible too pretty sure

Just have 5 teams ready to go

[old rose]

watafak i overcrit

[severe steeple]

Have you cleared it already?

[round kayak]

not yet im still double checking the rots today, ill do another attempt tomorrow

[tidal tree]

What's your rotation like? And is Maki better than Akane?

[old rose]

with iwak for sure

the rotation is kinda hard, I'm still ironing it out

[pallid inlet]

Chat we are so back

I just got 3 hibiki elephs today

[tidal tree]

Would be curious to know once you figure it out cause I feel like I'm spending too much time/cost moving people around with Mimori

[pallid inlet]

Now I just need 3 more elephs to ue30

[old rose]

i'm only using mimori at the very last moment, so your rotation probably has some room to improve

[tidal tree]

Are you using Maki's EX at all?

[old rose]

never

[west perch]

you basically never use dead EXs unless something is seriously wrong

[tidal tree]

Just an example but I'm waiting for shields to go down on iceberg and I am stuck with these cards

[old rose]

you should get in another damage cycle then

use iwak on geb and rotate back

[west perch]

yep, and if you've determined that you can't make it back then you have to sit on it

just make sure to do sroko > koharu in this position

otherwise you're stuck getting around 5 EXs

[worldly sun]

You definitely could have done another full cycle before heater died in this case

[sleek flicker]

Hmm...

[worldly sun]

How have you done less dmg than I do without skanna or imari

[sleek flicker]

No Idea

[tidal tree]

I messed up going for another rotation. Needed iwak but no iwak

[west perch]

[worldly sun]

You can swap out iwak in the last rotation before breaking for mimori repo, this way iwak is already in bar and def debuff is still up from previous

[tidal tree]

Really wish you can move the textbox so you can see the debuff bar

[steep vortex]

hmm

[worldly sun]

So if you’re doing koharu>uasuna>iwak>satsuki
Then for icewall you do
Koharu>uasuna>mimori>satsuki
Now your bar is iwak koharu maki ready for ice break

This is conveniently roughly around when you need to move your team for hypothermia

[pallid inlet]

🦖

[worldly sun]

Now do ins

[pallid inlet]

sure

[atomic arrow]

[pallid inlet]

I think I might need to get my maki and uasuna hairpin up

[ripe mason]

Getting ukarin to crit enough sucks smh

[worldly sun]

If they don’t get one shot then they have enough hp

No one really dies in geb

[quiet raft]

ffs

mock battle showed I could beat it on extreme but then a lot of RNG screwed me over and timed out

[young lotus]

What team are you running

[tidal tree]

You gotta just go for the clear if you are close to timing out

[worldly sun]

Ext is free what is your team

[covert spoke]

one that ext is not free with

[worldly sun]

Like akane maki +2 serina satsuki(a) is easy clear

Filler can be additional cost support, tank or cycle unit (or sub skill def down if owned)

[covert spoke]

1111 defdowns :psmh:

[quiet raft]

Koharu, Fuyu, Maki, Boshi, satsuki borrow and

but like

things like Geburah at only one or 5 stacks of health happened

[young lotus]

https://youtu.be/h-yf9ua_cS4?si=9JrzmDeMpZHSyRAT

[quiet raft]

My Koharu has no more problems with healing the reactor but gosh so many times I keep not damaging enough even though it has liek 3 stacks of def down

[worldly sun]

Unless all your units are completely uninvested that should be easy ext

[young lotus]

https://youtu.be/QA80WREQBz8?si=KeMxOcstu3Z_xksp

[quiet raft]

maybe I should then just heavily invest on Maki's basic, idr what level they are

iwak's sub skill is 7
maki's is 5
Fuyu's ex is 2

[young lotus]

Maki basic is pretty good

[west perch]

but what if levelling maki basic here means rio basic is lower lvl in the future

[quiet raft]

I could probably raise akane solely for this raid

[young lotus]

What level is your iwak ex

[quiet raft]

naaaah, I have shitton of coins

[quiet raft]

1

[young lotus]

[quiet raft]

ex def down does not stack

[west perch]

they're doing fuyu def down

[quiet raft]

so why level when Fuyu/Akane would bring the def down?

[young lotus]

Because you could also just use iwak def down and remove fuyu/akane

[quiet raft]

the lower def down does not override the higher one, right?

[young lotus]

But I guess that works too

[worldly sun]

All your units are completely uninvested no wonder

[young lotus]

But yeah

The investments are pretty iffy

[worldly sun]

Ex def down stacks with basic

If they don’t stack it’s most recent applied

[quiet raft]

ik

[pallid inlet]

Goddamn I’ve got no idea how I should be rotating the skills

[worldly sun]

What’s your team again

[quiet raft]

I cannot invest more into Fuyu without playing the event/spending coins on shop

[worldly sun]

Why is maki dead

[young lotus]

Honestly investing into iwak is a decent call for other raids too

[pallid inlet]

Pillar

[young lotus]

And for geb specifically

Sbe can do decent damage since she also gets buffed by boss mechs

[quiet raft]

compared for ex 3

[worldly sun]

Also that’s easy rot
Koharu uasuna iwak satsuki
When ice wall appears
Koharu uasuna imine satsuki
Break ice with iwak, heal with koharu and then resume first rot slightly offset

On your very first rot do koharu uasuna iwak, save to 9 and do satsuki koharu quickly

[pliant bluff]

Lol

[worldly sun]

So heater is overheated for satsuki

[pliant bluff]

Ok tor is surely 3 digit

[worldly sun]

Then just keep topping off until ice, let die and heal to full under buff

[west perch]

man it's times like these I'm glad I can't read japanese
There's so much story discussion on twitter rn

[pallid inlet]

So would I need to upgrade maki for her to survive

[worldly sun]

She shouldn’t be dying

No one should

[old rose]

eh lvl 73, if your pin is real low she could

[worldly sun]

If she’s rocking like t1 pin there’s your big problem

[pallid inlet]

She has t6 hairpin

[worldly sun]

Level her up too

Lvl 90 is 20% dmg reduction on top of the stats

[pallid inlet]

Lvl 90 is too expensive for her when I need to level up hibiki and ukarin as well

[worldly sun]

Well then do 85 or 87

[old rose]

this should just be save to 8 bc satsuki is 5 cost

[worldly sun]

It’s not like maki is a one off invest, you’ll use her a lot

[worldly sun]

She’s 3+3

Oh right iwak

[old rose]

2+3 on first rotation with iwak

[worldly sun]

Nm

But you get the idea

[old rose]

well it's the rot i'm following as well currently so i was checking for myself too

[young lotus]

Maki is goated AF

[covert spoke]

not levelling ue50 maki :psmh:

[pure vessel]

I got a shipping date for the imari figure

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dance-sea-lion-gif-18060641275691946665

[young lotus]

Ew. Why buy figures when you can buy more gems in game

Get that ue100 I.mari prep

[calm flicker]

He did both afaik

[frosty cedar]

should do both

[astral fern]

Contemplating to get selector on skanna

[young lotus]

Be like that one KR dude

Who did 6k pulls on S.fubuki

Because he simps

[astral fern]

Was it Archer?

[young lotus]

Im not even joking

[torn thorn]

It was not me…..

I’m f2p I don’t pull permas

I spoked sfoob

[young lotus]

2 straight hours of pulling on s.foob banner

[median lotus]

Bruh

[torn thorn]

[old rose]

idol haver struggling with ins...

[torn thorn]

Just clean up with hibiki

[old rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1388423110755352667.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=psmh

[gleaming wren]

noooooooo YouTube is down my homewooooork

[feral jetty]

you can still look hw up and watch

[old rose]

how tf is youtube down

[torn thorn]

I’m still on it…

[worldly sun]

Pay your internet bill

[pure vessel]

this guy fucks with police

[torn thorn]

Skill issue ngl

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[young lotus]

[astral fern]

I fucking hate it here

[median lotus]

I don't have u asunaaa

Or ue 60 satsuki

[old rose]

idol haver...

[median lotus]

Bruhhhhh

[old rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1388423110755352667.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=psmh

[median lotus]

I KNOW

ITS WEIRD

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[old rose]

here I just stole this big version from archer

[median lotus]

I GOT ALL IDOLS AND IM STILL LEFT WITH 7 HP BARS

[astral fern]

Well imma pirate the music instead doing ins geb because yt is dogshit

[old rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[astral fern]

Ins?

[median lotus]

Yeah-

[astral fern]

Crit harder with satsuki

[median lotus]

You can see, I used maki

[median lotus]

I need ue 60 man

[astral fern]

Ue50 was enough for me

Just 50/50 every single hit

52% crit rate moment

[feral jetty]

not 1 teaming with both idols sounds like a rotation issue

[gleaming wren]

insane or tor

just kidding, this is gpd so of course its extreme

[astral fern]

Imma atrempt tor anyway

[west perch]

eh, I'd say there's some rotational diff in ins

[astral fern]

Surely I can 3 pan geb without skanna

And is gpina maldier than satsuki?

[west perch]

idk what it is without following hw

Less

[marble yacht]

oh god...

[west perch]

she has pin + less hits

[astral fern]

Cuz satsuki is either I 1pan ins or I lack 20M

Because 50/50 moment

[west perch]

satsuki still better since gpina does less on higher HP

[astral fern]

I see

Sad I can't invest into my own satsuki

Only 1100 eligma

Not even for ue40

[astral fern]

Does gpina have hp% mechanic somewhere in her kit?

Like less than 80% hp she will do double dmg

[west perch]

Nope, just reverse mika

[astral fern]

Reverse mika?

[true shale]

Do the A.Hoshino social-distancing teams rely on I.Sakurako basic Lv10?