💬gameplay-discussion

[covert spoke]

standard isnt it

[echo oar]

10/10 lures? or just 10/10 headpats

[karmic hatch]

・「When cleaning in each area of ​​Game Development Department'', if a student who has already been picked up is visiting, you will earn bond points with that student, **`and there is a certain probability`** that you will receive God's name letter'' for that student.。
・「Every time the game development department is cleaned 5 times, regardless of area, the visiting students will be replaced.。

[pallid inlet]

What does it mean for lessons then

[karmic hatch]

**and there is a certain probability **

[marble gust]

so normal lesson event then

lol

[covert spoke]

its a minigame that gives lessons that is pog

[karmic hatch]

Lesson but time-limited Farming

need jp bro test the elephz rate

[echo oar]

actually nori, when you said you got 10/10 frequently, that's the same thing, right?

cause I filled out almost the entirety of both my cafes with lures and still get like 7-8 out of 10 lures on average

though the other 2-3 are often in my roster anyway, so

[covert spoke]

yeah well usually its like 9/10 and one b20 3*

[echo oar]

yeeee something like that

[covert spoke]

i do have ~45 lure per cafe

[marble gust]

tf min maxxing cafe invites

[echo oar]

I've p much filled out the whole space except like 20 squares

[marble gust]

think like half my furnitures are for unowned students lmao

[echo oar]

and not with the giant furniture either, the space-efficient ones 🤓

[covert spoke]

if making pretty cafe have it as preset for when u want to look at it and swap back to lure setup on reset

[echo oar]

the bond seriously adds up!

ohhhh and that's a good idea...

I like that a lot, never thought about it

[covert spoke]

theres more presets avail now too

[tall glacier]

I do one layout for trophy room

[echo oar]

oh, speaking of trophies: https://fixupx.com/yuba_clip/status/2023015528177320396

鳥翅ゆば。次はミレニアムオンリー (@yuba_clip)

格ゲーしてるイェソドくん好き

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FixupX · Feb 15, 2026, 12:44 PM

silly idea

[covert spoke]

i had some bronze peroros next to the sserika grill and srt camping firepit

[echo oar]

how could you

[lone widget]

smol yesod

looks kinda funni

[covert spoke]

the paid cafe invites are so nice for maki

other students too that u havent ever done lesson for and have no lures

[west perch]

sounds 🐳

[covert spoke]

not whale just longterm

would rather delay the timeline of all students geared max and start on the ultra efficient across the board bond raising

[echo oar]

ehhh even that's too much for me

it's, what, 40 pyros for another invite?

[lone widget]

pretty much

[covert spoke]

30 pyro for 60 bond

[echo oar]

ah 30!

[west perch]

half a spark a year for more bond

[echo oar]

still 14.5k pyros for a b50 😨

[covert spoke]

cheap

[west perch]

I'm good

[echo oar]

I'd rather have another spark than 2 more b50s

[west perch]

it's whel behaviour

I can't relate

[covert spoke]

fair, its better than lesson refreshing

but thats fun gamble

[echo oar]

tbh idk about that...

[worldly sun]

This is definitely the self report of all time

🐳

[covert spoke]

next fest i will get the dream x99 eleph lesson day

just watch

[echo oar]

another lesson for 30 pyros gets you 50 bond if it lets you get 2 you want bond on

plus the chance at elephs and double bond

[west perch]

I'd only refresh if it was 3 at bare minimum

and that basically never happens

[echo oar]

saaaame, and only maybe

I'd have to want elephs on all 3 of them too keke

wait why don't people talk about that more

[covert spoke]

i dont want to say what my most recent waste of 30 elephs per day was while aether is here

[west perch]

cuz I only do it on 2x/3x lessons

I wouldn't even think of it on any other day

I'd give up pyrox for resources easily but bond's a lesser priority

[echo oar]

fair, it just made me think that, even with only 2, that's a 12%+12% chance at getting 1 eleph for 30 pyros

or ~1.2 eligma per 30 pyros on average, even on 1x

which is kinda close to camp rates??

[west perch]

eh. Then why not refresh hards then?

[echo oar]

cause lesson elephs aren't farmables!

[covert spoke]

refreshing hard nodes daily during 1x is a great regret for one such as i

well a particular hard node

[echo oar]

hibiki?

[covert spoke]

no hibiki has a use

[echo oar]

aha...

[covert spoke]

same first 2 letters tho

[pallid inlet]

Hina?

[echo oar]

I thought so

[covert spoke]

sure lets go with that...

[west perch]

Hinata

[simple igloo]

[echo oar]

tbh I may have convinced myself to start refreshing lessons when I'm at 0/7 and have more areas with 2+ elephs I want

gonna have to look at it in more detail

[west perch]

wao

I've only ever refreshed lessons twice

[echo oar]

what are camp rates again??

2 eligma per ap refresh??

[covert spoke]

its pretty good when theres like a double/triple fest/meta unit lesson in haruhabara/schale/millennium/trinity

/du

[simple igloo]

is d.u that good

oh

[echo oar]

the zone is actually kinda inconsequential to me

[covert spoke]

its nice bonus

but yeah i do red winter greys if needed

[echo oar]

totally, just not the priority for me

and apparently, camp is 1.7 eligma per refresh at max bonus

[covert spoke]

it feels kinda bricc but heaven mandates all wakamo ibuki nyharuna lessons as well as anything funny

ie hoshino hiyori lesson

okay, boshino

idt id do regular hoshino hiyori would just take screenshot

thats slightly worse than camp but u get bond

and the bond is worth gifts

so if not bond focused i suppose you skip the gifts in shop

[echo oar]

I'm too meta-brained to do things just for the gram

[covert spoke]

and then it makes up for it

[echo oar]

but yeah it sounds totally worth it in 2x/3x, and maaaaybe worth it if you find 3 you want and/or 2 you want bond on too

better than extra cafe invites imo imo

[west perch]

dw just hope the char you like gets an alt who is made for lunatic

[echo oar]

nodoka dps where

aiming for luna at this time is always in flux, too...

like I was just thinking, I have the roster to do geb luna on this run

[opaque dagger]

Inb4 it was a Hifumi refresh

[echo oar]

BUT if I wait till the rerun, I'll have SO many more advantages without lifting a finger

[opaque dagger]

It's like me forcing the F100 on this Blue Set: how much do you want the glory

And how steep is the price for that glory

[echo oar]

takane dmichi uasuna in my roster, 4* ukarin -> ue40+ ukarin from the rerun, ue30 tyuuka -> ue40 tyuuka, ue30 mash -> ue50 mash, etc etc

[opaque dagger]

For me the price was literally some equips and UE40 Shigure Hot Spring, I can pay that

[echo oar]

yeah exactly haha

it takes so much more eligma to do it now as opposed to on the next time it runs

[opaque dagger]

It's also the only time I'll be using Hasumi Track on a F100 Blue Set

[lone widget]

ngl

[opaque dagger]

I really wanted to just prove that this team works

[lone widget]

why TA has to lock us out of insane/torment during the first day

[echo oar]

that's half the fun of the game imo

[lone widget]

we lose quite a bit of coins

[opaque dagger]

All the copium cooking I've done over the months

All the Niya clears

[simple igloo]

frick you

[echo oar]

so much niya...

[lone widget]

would be nice if we could do them all right away

[round kayak]

Time to set the house on fire

[opaque dagger]

I've used her in 8 raids now

[round kayak]

Cooking with gas

[lone widget]

i mean

[west perch]

I think it's you every time I see niya now

[lone widget]

ppl will do higher diff regardless

[echo oar]

she'll truly shine once krkg comes along next month

[west perch]

ehh

[echo oar]

and then she can be retired in peace...

shhh don't spoil it

[opaque dagger]

Hiero Tor, Chesed Tor, Hod Ins, Kaiten Ins, Goz Ins, F74 Chok, F74 Tiph, F100 Set

This is what happens when that's your only cost recovery option and she somehow is faster even as ded slot

[west perch]

they should've just made niya blue/yellow

[simple igloo]

jfd?

[opaque dagger]

You know what's funny? I'm most likely borrowing Kisaki for Kurokage Tor

[echo oar]

heaven will forsake you

[opaque dagger]

Because if I don't, I need to research keeping Seia Swimsuit alive

[harsh root]

hoho im malding in geburah again

[echo oar]

I was gonna say isn't that just a single repos, but you probably aren't using mine on the niya team

[round kayak]

Just repo her away with social distancing

[grim finch]

wtffff

[round kayak]

[opaque dagger]

I am the one guy who uses Niya in every bloody raid except in the intended raid called Kurokage

[lone widget]

just use imine

free

[round kayak]

Didn't expect it to be easy with mine lol

Just the standard boshi shenanigans

[opaque dagger]

...why am I doing this on Tor again?

[lone widget]

no kei

[round kayak]

cause you don't have hair

[little timber]

Dunno what should i borrow in geb-

[round kayak]

[opaque dagger]

I like how we assuming I'm doing Luna or some shit

[tall glacier]

So the bot is O kei

[echo oar]

whaaaa, all you said is you want to keep sseia alive!

[round kayak]

Badatsh

[echo oar]

so my head went to the mine repos

[lone widget]

shes a bit of tsundere

only appears once in every 3 days

[opaque dagger]

What am I supposed to clear Luna with? I don't have a second AoE healer option nor a Kisaki for Team 2

[echo oar]

I never said anything about luna!!

[opaque dagger]

So why am I doing Mine Seia Swimsuit tech on Tor, and does that even work in P2

[little timber]

2 pan? Or 3?

[echo oar]

we're talking in circles!!

[opaque dagger]

Also Mine and Niya in the same team feels troll

[echo oar]

it'd be so you can use sseia and not borrow kisaki, using niya instead

but yeah that exactly, it conflicts with itself

[echo oar]

hence this

[opaque dagger]

Yea I thought about keeping my Niya tradition alive

But the Kisaki borrow is just so much easier

[round kayak]

will you abandon niya after you get kisaki

[opaque dagger]

Unless I do Hikari + Aru Dress + Rio

[echo oar]

[opaque dagger]

And borrow Sena Casual

[round kayak]

that works tho

[marble gust]

not this shit again

[round kayak]

:archangel:

[opaque dagger]

So what, you guys want me to do the Sena Casual + Hikari + Aru Dress + Rio + Niya Tor clear?

[lone widget]

yeh

[echo oar]

hell yeah

[opaque dagger]

Cos I actually can pull that one off

[lone widget]

we lost quite a bit of coins

[round kayak]

Looks fine

[lone widget]

[marble gust]

its my pelolo team

[round kayak]

anything goes on tor nowadays

[opaque dagger]

You know what, sure, that makes for a banger Youtube video

[echo oar]

send er, bud

[opaque dagger]

I need to go find a Sena Casual borrow for that, but that's a nice idea actually

[echo oar]

anyway, night!

[west perch]

hm... sounds possible, especially since Niya isn't a dead slot for once

[steady prairie]

alright, zzz

[round kayak]

Good night

[lone widget]

whelzo should i do torment geb

[opaque dagger]

Hikari's buffs far less effective than Seia Swimsuit tho

But I just have no way of keeping her alive on P2, I think

[west perch]

it does sound like a perfect groggy angle though, or at least a 4 shanako normal groggy

[round kayak]

Do it or dmichiru will drain your ass

[lone widget]

hmm

the latter sounds better actualy

[tall glacier]

You threatened him with a good time...

[opaque dagger]

Actually lemme see if there's Seia Swimsuit Tor clears

[lone widget]

leme think

we do have like a tons of millennium coming up

[round kayak]

dry spark btw

[lone widget]

it's ok

[round kayak]

[lone widget]

i need to do 200

for ligma

[round kayak]

Damm look at this whel

[lone widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1451892476934619228/Michiru_L2D_2025-12-20_02-58-46_Blue_Archive_BA_Stream_Clipchamp_B3.gif

[opaque dagger]

Wtf, she survives Tor

[lone widget]

but surely she loves me so much

that she will come in 100

[opaque dagger]

That's crazy

[marble gust]

post rework krkg be like

[lone widget]

mleisa heal is strong

also eye rework ye

[marble gust]

oh nvm tf that

[round kayak]

Sseia survives on luna

[opaque dagger]

That's P1

[round kayak]

so yeah

[opaque dagger]

This is bringing her through P2 as well

[round kayak]

Yes?

[marble gust]

mreisa diff

[opaque dagger]

P2 hits harder iirc, no?

[round kayak]

doesn't the top 2pan team have her on that

[opaque dagger]

Yea but Seia Swimsuit team is P1 Luna

This is taking her through the entirety of Tor, which means she needs to live P2 Tor

[west perch]

she dies quite soon after p2 enter

[opaque dagger]

I think without Reisa Magic, this team just does not work

Might be able to swap Fish out for Niya

[west perch]

what?

[round kayak]

Uhhhh

What

[opaque dagger]

Yea, Team 1 doesn't do much in P2 iirc

[west perch]

I mean if you didn't watch any clear I can see your confusion

[opaque dagger]

2nd team does all of P2 and P3 afaik

[worldly sun]

Are you supposed to use sseia? I mostly saw mine hikari akomari

[opaque dagger]

Seia Swimsuit faster clears

[round kayak]

I haven't seen any sseia clears yet cause I was focusing on my plans

[steady prairie]

either sseia akomari for hikari kasumi p2, or hikari p1 csena p2

[west perch]

hikari is the more stable p1

[round kayak]

But it should be still enough for the groggy setup no?

[west perch]

they're doing tor sir

[round kayak]

Oh wtf

nvm then

[opaque dagger]

Just in case, this is Tor

[steady prairie]

nvm not enough damage i don't have nyharuka for this shit

[frigid oar]

hello GPD balders

[round kayak]

[worldly sun]

And second shanako team was daru kikyou shosh kisaki mreisa

[lone widget]

fiani

[opaque dagger]

Seia Swimsuit lives all of Tor with Reisa Magic, apparently

[lone widget]

[round kayak]

Yeah you'll need mreisa for that

[opaque dagger]

Yea pretty sure I can't do this with Shigure Hot Spring

[frigid oar]

Who the hell is Fiani ?

[opaque dagger]

I like how everyone is assuming I'm going to do Luna

When I freaking don't have Kisaki

[lone widget]

doable trust

[opaque dagger]

Not even a consideration

[wanton pilot]

[frigid oar]

I don't like how no one assuming I'm doing Luna

[marble gust]

ok

[frigid oar]

[marble gust]

this is too hard

[opaque dagger]

There are 0 Luna clears in JP without Kisaki

[wanton pilot]

Hardcore geburah got hands

[west perch]

so wait, what's stopping you from borrowing kisaki here?

your own shanako?

[opaque dagger]

Ye this straight up was my original plan

[marble gust]

no oshig he says

[opaque dagger]

But Audiens wants me to keep the Niya dream alive

[west perch]

oh

[frigid oar]

Torment is easy thankfully

[opaque dagger]

And then I went into a rabbit hole of seeing if Seia Swimsuit lives Tor

[frigid oar]

but there is one SHanako strat that kinda needs stabmald or high stat transfer

[opaque dagger]

My guy, wtf did you think I used for F100 Blue Set

[marble gust]

idk ahanko

pollo?

[worldly sun]

Hmm I dunno if I’m prepping the right stuff although all of these teams were used on LB in some combination

[opaque dagger]

Using Trinity mats with my current debt?

That's craaaazy

[marble gust]

as if mreisa wouldnt

are u pulling magicals

[opaque dagger]

She is precisely the reason I cannot raise Hanako

[worldly sun]

[steady prairie]

main problem is just p1 rot because i know that team exist but idk if it's as functional without mari cost down

[west perch]

Switch koharu and kokona
use mine to displace kokona from main AoE

[steady prairie]

and also team 4 is hanging by a thread with only kokona

[worldly sun]

Doesn’t kokona insta die on the first hibiki attack

[marble gust]

121 more elephs forue50 hibiki

[west perch]

hibiki?

[marble gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463420224207454281/1467847469424443497/MiyoOutside.gif

[opaque dagger]

Set main obligated to roll for them. Not even optional

[worldly sun]

The 10 circles

[steady prairie]

use mine to repos her away from it

[west perch]

yeah that's why you use mine to displace kokona

[steady prairie]

and she's basically only getting hit by aa

[worldly sun]

How exactly does that work, where do you social distance her to

[marble gust]

so hibiki mm77 enough?

[steady prairie]

just a bit to the right

[steady prairie]

mmmm

[marble gust]

tf do i need her sub for

[steady prairie]

if you're using hibiki by her own maybe you can get away with mmm7

it's still more cdmg bro

[marble gust]

fine ig

but wolfseggs

[worldly sun]

Should I be using koharu on team 2 then instead?

[marble gust]

[opaque dagger]

Oh wait

[covert spoke]

hibiki 5mmm basic pvp rights

[steady prairie]

the boshi team

[opaque dagger]

Getting my Hibiki to EX5 means I go back into Wolfsegg debt

[west perch]

hell no

[opaque dagger]

:worry:

[covert spoke]

just double imari

[west perch]

what?

[worldly sun]

Krkg is mandatory double shanako

[west perch]

well

[worldly sun]

Regardless of how skippable imari is

[west perch]

not mandatory

[marble gust]

just build yukari smh

[west perch]

p sure even I could do 1 shanako clear now

[frigid oar]

no double SHanako is possible yeah
but you need to build other Purple DPS

[marble gust]

bhosh prolly 30mil

[covert spoke]

i wonder if peroro is mandatory double boshi after mkaris

[west perch]

main thing is groggy setup

[opaque dagger]

Isn't double Hanako Swimsuit, like, the easiest option for Luna Kurokage

[covert spoke]

maybe clearable without

[west perch]

oh ofc it is

[marble gust]

i mean ofc lol

2 cost 10mil dmg on groggy

[west perch]

it just isn't required technically

[covert spoke]

its the only option 99% of time

[marble gust]

prolly even more than that

[worldly sun]

But yeah looks like I can’t get away from raising oshig, might as well now for better set

[marble gust]

tf oshig slacker

[opaque dagger]

You not rolling for Reisa Magic?

[covert spoke]

oshig set 🚮

[worldly sun]

I am

Obv

[marble gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030399686638575656/1430764170776805486/reisaboogie.gif

[worldly sun]

[opaque dagger]

Maybe some Reisa Magic comp might work for you then?

[covert spoke]

csena > oshig invest

[frigid oar]

Cheapest and easiest strat is still double SHanako

[marble gust]

need 2-3 teams ig

[west perch]

if the mine kokona team works well, then you don't need the team with oshig

[worldly sun]

@opaque dagger context

[covert spoke]

there is also skanna smika team

[opaque dagger]

Oh team 3 is the one with Reisa Magic?

[worldly sun]

The missing spot

[opaque dagger]

Is team 2 just backup in case you miss the groggy setup?

[worldly sun]

With the original plan koharu is much slower so would need a bit more, usually that team is imari

So the cost goes a long way

[covert spoke]

do u own csena

[worldly sun]

No

[covert spoke]

prepare 5 more teams and get the slow clear

[opaque dagger]

I guess that setup looks a bit pricey, but if it clears, it clears I guess

[covert spoke]

ichika,skoharu, basuna natsu hoshino nonomi chise, ayane rumi skanna smika renge yukari dsaori bkarin

grab a few

expect to need 10m

[opaque dagger]

Do the non-Purple ones even add to groggy

[covert spoke]

and likely will need smika for groggy adjust

no and thats a good thing

[opaque dagger]

Is this adjusting to ensure that you get out of P2 after groggy or something

So you purposely do more non-groggy dmg or something

[covert spoke]

the groggy adjust is so your second shanako team gets ideal groggy

[opaque dagger]

Also, nice 3 coins

[covert spoke]

wtf that def...

gl spooking csena niya ig durg

[simple igloo]

tough guy

[worldly sun]

What’s the ideal setup breakpoints supposed to be first shanako p1 and what 95% groggy or smth, second shanako starts double groggy p2 and optional p3?

Basically what state is krkg supposed to be at before shanako 2 arrives

[covert spoke]

might be quite different if stretching teams and not super comp idk if there videos on it

[astral fern]

Gatekeep this tourist

[simple igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/adin-adinross-what-does-he-even-do-adin-what-does-he-even-do-what-does-he-even-do-meme-gif-7301893521340817246

[pallid inlet]

Does he know?

[pliant bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[steady prairie]

what if i do ins without a satsuki hmmm

[novel timber]

bald

[opaque dagger]

Ugh, took me 3 tries to win, but 90 coins today 🎉

[marble gust]

aight imma build my hibiki

brokege

[worldly sun]

Show tor arch

[pallid inlet]

🦖

[simple igloo]

is yuuka that strong

[marble gust]

no imari iwappi tor like man dont joke

[pallid inlet]

For hibiki and ukarin should I upgrade their enhanced or sub skill?

[worldly sun]

Why is this all you ask

[simple igloo]

130k yuuka dmg

[worldly sun]

You got the satsuki

So that’s like saying imari but no satsuki

And you got uasuna

[marble gust]

do i farm pin+watch or pin+necklace

[opaque dagger]

It's doable but you need like, 3-4 teams minimum?

[opaque dagger]

You know, so true, I keep forgetting I have a Natsu raised

Thank you, imma go fix this now

[simple igloo]

wats the point of raid fighter role

is it conquest level ancient

[daring coral]

It’s

Kinda easy

You got this

[round kayak]

Give reset already

Wanna do tor....

[round kayak]

Where tor arch

[marble gust]

any hw for hibiki team

i think i can squeeze out 100mil from my satsuki team

even more if i do bhosh ping pong but hell no

[round kayak]

Ins?

[marble gust]

tor

[round kayak]

Lemme see

This one?
https://youtu.be/aXBB_FYk2-I?si=Ok8-bYinOKcQNM_L

[daring coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1395642937177542686/IMG_6557.png?ex=69955246&is=699400c6&hm=044dbb00815f0828b9e7dd90f5988eb031d85c5908e3de35afa4f8c2bb09e3d2&

comfy 3 pan Strat I used back then

[candid gust]

:ask_crystark:

[round kayak]

[marble gust]

18mil only

😟

[round kayak]

How much do you need?

[steady prairie]

squeeze more https://youtu.be/pzfKmNiCX4c

[candid gust]

:ask_crystark:

[daring coral]

“Just crit bro”

[candid gust]

[marble gust]

lol wappi

[steady prairie]

ah gws

[daring coral]

[candid gust]

sniff sniff

i smell crystark doing lun

[steady prairie]

Why lun when i can do sui's garden of grotesqueries

[marble gust]

how long is this

[daring coral]

4 hoshino long

[round kayak]

20 seconds

[candid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/in-sheep-wolves-disguise-politician-gif-27623978

[round kayak]

[marble gust]

so like this?

[royal grove]

the healing amount should be thrice not twice iirc

[simple ravine]

but its triple heal for students

[marble gust]

ig

anyway

i love cancelling azusa basic

[royal grove]

why not use maki tho

the uptime is worse but more def shred

[marble gust]

on main team

[royal grove]

i c

[marble gust]

no buffs is kinda tough lol

[candid gust]

BRUH

[royal grove]

[candid gust]

[royal grove]

hyper carry shanako

[hallow plank]

Ouch…

[marble gust]

lmao my hinata deals like 0 dmg

[astral fern]

Surely I can get 1 purple, right?

[marble gust]

hmm

[astral fern]

Got about 8 purples

I'll take that

[candid gust]

[royal grove]

how

[candid gust]

0.133

ssg...

[wicked vine]

satsuko dps

[marble gust]

not too bad

can 4* nagisa break tor ice

30%

@opaque dagger

[opaque dagger]

I like how you assume I know the calcs. I don't

I didn't calc it for enbac

[marble gust]

more like idk how to use the calc either

[opaque dagger]

Just put your Nagisa, your Specials, and whatever buffs you have at that point

You need to put in Source of Intelligence and Heater Overload in the buffs

[candid gust]

never

[opaque dagger]

Those are not automatically applied

[marble gust]

ig i can use like shanako to help break

[opaque dagger]

Nah she will do like, 30k dmg

At best

[steady prairie]

nagisa + shanako was lun meta icebreak bro

[opaque dagger]

How many splashes

[marble gust]

lol 40k/120k nagi

[steady prairie]

tbh not rlly meta but they're usually paired

usually it's 1 nagi + 1 splash

[marble gust]

oh good to hear

[steady prairie]

and you mash on that double def down

[opaque dagger]

Oh her Basic covers the ice pillar?

[steady prairie]

Nah

[opaque dagger]

Oh the double Def Down on Geb

Ya I know, I'm literally using Hanako Swimsuit for Team 2 myself

[marble gust]

damn bikeroko cant hit both ice and geb

[opaque dagger]

Triple Def Down for Hibiki

[marble gust]

fraudroko

[pallid inlet]

Why hit the ice and gaybruh at the same time

[steady prairie]

any def down on pillar is kinda meaningless because nagi overwrites

[pallid inlet]

Is it?

[steady prairie]

and you can't target it with basics

[opaque dagger]

How does that work btw? Does the Def Down apply first before dmg, or the other way around

[pallid inlet]

First debuff applied

[steady prairie]

iirc it was def down as the first hit lands or sth

[opaque dagger]

So at worst, first hit has no Def Down

All subsequent hits do

[pallid inlet]

The def down happens just before the first hit does damage

[steady prairie]

should have all def down

[pallid inlet]

I’ve tested it out before

[royal grove]

it should be instantly as the first missle hit

[arctic cape]

[modest comet]

[west perch]

...? Someone brought baggers here

[marble gust]

pro hinata

[pallid inlet]

Almost as much damage as nagisa

[worldly sun]

Every hit with ex applies def down

[pallid inlet]

It’s not every hit

It’s the first one

[royal grove]

[marble gust]

nagi applies right before the 1st hit

[worldly sun]

I think they can run in and still be affected

[modest comet]

[pallid inlet]

How do we test that exactly

And is there even a scenario where that matters

[candid gust]

balls

[covert spoke]

i dont think thats the case

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894565075669635072/1423833435188756490/received_24716930701299989.gif

smikalet life

[covert spoke]

its not like that with niya

[candid gust]

it's so umazing

[covert spoke]

idk tho

where chare shanako snagi kisaki reisa imari

[simple igloo]

🤝

wait i do have smika

noob

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894565075669635072/1423833435188756490/received_24716930701299989.gif

[pure vessel]

marihyper

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1406293117174284324/1755352544_B24747A7BCE35297822681E8F8B05C3F.gif

slowly prepare for lun krkg

[pallid inlet]

On idols rerun, after getting both idols, I should prioritise imari dupes over the other two students if I’ve got remaining rolls left yes?

[candid gust]

yes

or just dump it on normal banner

[pallid inlet]

Nah

It would be insane if I get both idols in under 200 rolls

[past spruce]

Go do it

[simple igloo]

tf 1000 3*

[candid gust]

chare

uh huh

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-laughing-gif-3676435433606054883

[past spruce]

:subvitals:

[cold egret]

where hasaki 😭

[marble gust]

i just saw mari shield not work on heater

[pallid inlet]

Reading

[pliant bluff]

tor tmr

[marble gust]

but shes like one of the 3 students who has basic def down

[pliant bluff]

no pls

[past spruce]

Luna mock tomorrow

[candid gust]

i will do tor this time

fuck geburah

[past spruce]

Hope I can beat Geb Lun this time

[candid gust]

🚮

[cold egret]

😭😭

[candid gust]

[tall glacier]

The coffers

[candid gust]

wait...

[west perch]

yeah, I'm thinking we may get another one before luna hiero comes

[marble gust]

oh rio

wtf ritsu

jesus

[candid gust]

jesus

[marble gust]

her stonks are rising quite much

[pallid inlet]

Gotta fund a use somehow

[marble gust]

ok im somehow confident i can clear tor without prep

clueless

[west perch]

huh, did we not get kanna bg before luna binah?

that is surprising

[pallid inlet]

Nope

I forget kanna is even there

[west perch]

she's in the corner for hiero there but she's decent damage on binah, given accumulation being what it is even at 50%

[candid gust]

ok

ayo

[cedar niche]

I played the game for 3 days is 15 lv on Hina relationship good enough

[pallid inlet]

Maybe

[wanton pilot]

T9 pin or bricc

[gleaming wren]

hello gpd

geburah hardcore is so hard...

[west perch]

man's gonna gamble on that 3rd shot crit

[candid gust]

t10

[candid gust]

it's fine i have hibiki + nagisa team left

so i needn't to gamba

[gleaming wren]

joexyz

[mint sapphire]

mental illness is when you mald for a score that won't be relevant anymore in 9 hours

[candid gust]

sth sth

[round kayak]

:hyper_baldshino:

[marble gust]

is it better to double satsuki or borrow imari

[gleaming wren]

imari

[royal grove]

imari

[marble gust]

why though

[wanton pilot]

Lol EU completely mogged top NA hardcore scores

[marble gust]

think i saw a satsuki koharu team do 80mil

[gleaming wren]

is your koharu ue60 lb25 healing

[candid gust]

[marble gust]

no

[gleaming wren]

then no

[marble gust]

do 106

or 109

[candid gust]

106 btw

time to mald

👨‍🦲

[lone widget]

ssg frr warlord

[pure vessel]

gebby chan

[lone widget]

time to bring out the nunny

[round kayak]

[lone widget]

[wanton pilot]

[round kayak]

wappi we need to talk about how tf you aren't moving right

[candid gust]

nice proc

nyk died then kok proc on nyk

[lone widget]

[novel timber]

geb makes my rank automatically 4 digit tho

slacc ins

hope so

[royal grove]

👍

[round kayak]

Time to lock in after next reset

Now where's that TL

[wanton pilot]

In the geburah raid
straight up "reposing it"
and by "it" I mean
Haha let's just say my wappies

[subtle kestrel]

Highest isakulet hc score on first try

[pure vessel]

https://x.com/i/status/2023091281505997044

かるぱ(karupa)🐟 (@karupapon)

ワッパー食べたい🤤🍔
マリー…ずるいょ…‼︎

X · Feb 15, 2026, 5:45 PM

borgar

[round kayak]

Reminds me the old Collab on mom's touch

[lone widget]

[pure vessel]

the highlander one isn't even that old

the ps68 one...

[opaque dagger]

Welp, gotta delay by half cost, and this is the best for Level 1 Sensei

[pure vessel]

oh I still have the photocards from the old collab

lmao

[round kayak]

Watafak ssg

Love the artsyle

Looks very vibrant

[marble gust]

https://youtu.be/u7wT_uja8ig hm

[candid gust]

me when seeing nykayako dies 3.14 times

[summer spire]

π kayoko

[candid gust]

uhm

ignore it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894565075669635072/1423833435188756490/received_24716930701299989.gif

[covert spoke]

too colorful

[opaque dagger]

Cool, got my new video 👀

[simple igloo]

is hanae that good

can she do allat

oh ue hanae

[opaque dagger]

UE30 but EX3 and only T4 necklace iirc

Maki and Serina/Atsuko Swimsuit is objectively better ofc

[hollow saddle]

https://vxb23.tv/jGtuD0y

Wtf uniform kiki

[simple igloo]

wtf

straight 12min of yapping shit

[dusky sapphire]

@steep vortex

[idle rampart]

is there any pvp sheets meta for next pvp?

[worldly sun]

read your momos sensei

[hollow saddle]

Already did

Just surprising using uniform outside momo's

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[pliant bluff]

new alt

fest for sure

[pure vessel]

c.hina (actually chinese)

👲

[candid venture]

Everyone knows kiki alt is kiki (kindergartener)

[frosty tusk]

@frosty harbor hey, do u have any slot available? I really need a highly invested gpina

[pallid inlet]

Kisaki mentioned

If they added a kisaki alt than I’d 💳

[simple igloo]

hm

would a kisaki alt worth $180 🤔

[pallid inlet]

She’s worth everything

[simple igloo]

do you even have everything in the first place

[pallid inlet]

Yes I do

[simple igloo]

784 pyroxene to your name ❤️‍🩹

[pallid inlet]

Nah I’ve got 70k pyros just for her

[simple igloo]

i heard 1cm3 of skin = $10-$30

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-shupogaki-tachibana-nozomi-tachibana-hikari-shupo-gif-1530529737200909041

[pallid inlet]

Easy ue60 b100 lb75 kisaki alt

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1345795159895445545.webp?size=160&animated=true

[pastel mortar]

Is a hag?

[pallid inlet]

She is wife

[simple igloo]

wth

a mod was watching

[pallid inlet]

🐟 or

[simple igloo]

im not sure i just know he deleted my bagen gif

i cant even get away with sending it here anymore

[karmic hatch]

They cooked Kissaki route too much, they really want that Lunar NY

[pure vessel]

kisaki alt is gonna be such a money printer fr

when they released the February birthday merch on the akihabara yostar store only the kisaki merch was sold out immediately lmao

[orchid axle]

hi bald of the balds

extreme plat looking kinda nice

[pure vessel]

give me lunatic or give me death

[pallid inlet]

Kisaki is peak design

[pure vessel]

china

it will never stop being funny that the person who inspired her moment of character development was fucking cherino

[west perch]

proxies take a while to respond so i can't ever get mika's birthday merch

[pure vessel]

"am I really fit to lead?"
"lmao why do you care what the PLEBS think, im the best"

[agile pollen]

As expected from our glorious leader

Glory to the Red Winter

[simple igloo]

i predict we will get x200 free pyroxene from an external source within 2 weeks (exclude web events and daily login free stuff)

[covert spoke]

eimi did not die it timed out

[pallid inlet]

Damn baldris in PvP

How does she fare

[covert spoke]

weird

she seems bad if enemy is running like saki bneru

[pallid inlet]

I can see why

[covert spoke]

its 3 full rotations then she deletes someone

but if u get taunted or stunnned then 🥀

[pallid inlet]

What about qmarina then

[covert spoke]

kinda goated

but if repos happens and she thuds into eimi

🥀

[marble gust]

4x hp enables a shit ton of units

[covert spoke]

mreisa is *at times the ruin of both of the units but

dmichiru is the goat

[pallid inlet]

She is

But I’m not going for her

[random lake]

how many months till anni?

[covert spoke]

4.8

[random lake]

so like 48k pyrox

[covert spoke]

closer to 60

[random lake]

great

so its not brick if i pull miyo

[covert spoke]

its brick

because she is a rather useless unit

and is a perm

throw ga ticket sure

[random lake]

if the only banners to pull are FES, Magicals, thats 4 sparks + 12k (pre-fes) then my hoarding has 96k pyrox so that covers it and what we get being around 60k opens it for yuzu armed

[random lake]

i already did that one taht will expire

but didnt get lucky

[random lake]

but shes cute

[covert spoke]

pulling miyo is like pulling gpina when you already own a ue50 satsuki

[random lake]

who is my ue50 satsuki in this analogy

[covert spoke]

mimori

[pure vessel]

you pull miyo for the l2d

[random lake]

mine is lvl 1

[pure vessel]

like eri

[covert spoke]

thats your issue not mine

mimori is free ue60

miyo is not

[random lake]

true

but i have ligma to spare

[covert spoke]

miyo is also inferior until ue40

you would essentially be ligmaing mimori

[random lake]

she comes at 4 star then its relatively cheap to get her to ue40

[covert spoke]

yeah only 900 eligma for a mimori sidegrade

[random lake]

isnt she superior at ue40?

[covert spoke]

yes but mimori is more usable in other areas besides yesod

[pure vessel]

barely

in jp I think miyo was #1 but mimori was #3

so it's like

literally only matters if you're going for top 3 tier

[covert spoke]

geburah, srkr, kaiten, goz mimori has a lot of utility

[pallid inlet]

What about in kaiten?

[covert spoke]

she tanks p2

[pallid inlet]

Is that all?

[covert spoke]

yes

well she does her buffing stuff

[pallid inlet]

Sure is something

[covert spoke]

its more of an original torment / potential luna angle for that tbh but ye

i remember i used her for insane when i had no tanks raised

[pallid inlet]

Where would an atk speed buffer be used in the first place m outside of yesod p2 and set

[covert spoke]

boat likely

miyo also could see use in some goz comps with like cutaha +1 + repos, though prob not that needed after jp fest

[pallid inlet]

So baldris powercrept the hell out of goz

[true shale]

Taking a step back, AtkSpd dps are used when we have no cost with which to fuel dps EX skills.

[covert spoke]

miyo is kinda like a premium unit for outdated units outside of her boat usage
even on boat its not that great anyways, shes a definite bkaz upgrade though but its again, just scorechase mostly

[true shale]

And thus AtkSpd+ starts scaling well when said dps are present.

They’re usually going to feature on secondary teams, which is often quite deep into a clear, considering how large our roster is nowadays.

Mimori specifically… I actually use her most often as a tank, tbh

[covert spoke]

that said all signs point towards next TA being aa focused in some way

and yellow atk

[pallid inlet]

Didn’t we just have a new TA boss?

[covert spoke]

last year

[pallid inlet]

Yesod still isn’t out on global

[true shale]

You’re right, though the release pace is so slow, the prediction is that another one would be on schedule by the time we get all the old raids on Luna.

[pallid inlet]

What exactly can we infer about a possible new TA boss then

[west perch]

they released all of greg, boat, and kkg within like a few months

[true shale]

Nothing really, to be perfectly honest. Doesn’t mean that it’s not fun to try.

If the community uses the infinite-ammo-scattergun approach to its predictions, then we’ll get at least something right, won’t we?

[covert spoke]

kisaki b tier

[west perch]

wrong, because aaris

[covert spoke]

aaris bad on set too

[true shale]

Airi meta this time. Trust.

[covert spoke]

i dont think it will be the same sort of thing

rather the opposite where its dilution+ dr in some way

[copper crescent]

Make new acc and pull her

[west perch]

and? it's not like aaris herself even has a raid rn

[covert spoke]

every blue

[west perch]

oh yeah, like uneru is made for chesed and troko is made for srkr

[pallid inlet]

Uneru is not made for chesed

Kuroko though

[west perch]

every single one of our fes has been made for a raid

[covert spoke]

i mean

[copper crescent]

Uneru is hod i think

[pallid inlet]

Urban yellow raids

[covert spoke]

aaris was made for saving the world

which she is quite good at

[west perch]

wakamo to srkr, shoshi to hiero, mika to binah, shanako to kkg

[marble gust]

reverse yesod and make it -200% atk 0% crit -200% ex dmg -150% eff

[covert spoke]

really good in fact

[copper crescent]

I swear we're gonna get kether either as frr or ta

[marble gust]

fuck kether

[west perch]

not kether

[pallid inlet]

World raid moment

[round kayak]

just make it both an AA raid and EX at the same time

[covert spoke]

intentional bricc account making gains

[pallid inlet]

Would be a cool idea

[true shale]

I think Kether’s animations look cool…

[copper crescent]

Yeah

[pallid inlet]

But kether abilities in world raid

[restive kraken]

I like Geburah cutscene

[west perch]

unless someone's telling me aaris was really made for peroro and chokmah
I'm waiting for it

[copper crescent]

Kether is the only one left out atm

[covert spoke]

shes not made for them but she still shines in them

[west perch]

so is dhina shining in greg tor

[covert spoke]

she was made to do the thing in the pv vs malkuth

shoot the big beam

[pallid inlet]

Was she not made for Greg?

[west perch]

are we gonna say dhina's a greg unit?

[covert spoke]

pv is allowed

[copper crescent]

Dajin literally made the scene

[pure vessel]

beamuuuuuuu

[restive kraken]

[pallid inlet]

Why not

[restive kraken]

D Hina is not meant for Greg

Greg is not meant for D Hina

[covert spoke]

dhina is meant for kaiten

[pallid inlet]

Right

[covert spoke]

indoor hiero

[pure vessel]

||funny that it was actually kei that did the beam battle in the final showdown against decagrammaton||

[pallid inlet]

With kaiten appearing on urban

[restive kraken]

Shes meant for single target red boss

[covert spoke]

im still ocring it man

settle

[restive kraken]

especially Hiero

[pallid inlet]

Indoor Jerome makes sense

[west perch]

she's so awkward in kaiten though

like imagine she didn't 1pan p1

which is what luna is going to be

[restive kraken]

You need proper set up for D hina if you wanna use her in a situation that isnt curbstomp for Kaiten

Not just unga bunga roll high crit

[west perch]

like what are you gonna do on that last minute shooting one kaitenger

[copper crescent]

True

[restive kraken]

So yeah D Hina isnt meant for Kaiten either, but she’s intended to be used as a viable option

Either in p1 or p2

[west perch]

dhina's a hiero unit as well

[past spruce]

Uhh

[covert spoke]

arent u talking abotu urban though folie

[past spruce]

Isn't that spoilers?

[restive kraken]

No?

[past spruce]

[restive kraken]

Just talking about bosses in general

[covert spoke]

cuz field kaiten is a dhina field day

[restive kraken]

If you use D Hina in the difficulty thats actually not a curb stomp

She kinda sucks balls in Kaiten p2

[past spruce]

Back to d.hina critmalding

[restive kraken]

Like Nexon would never expect even 10% of the player base to giga high roll d Hina crits just to make her work

[west perch]

not red armour sucks in p2 kaiten
heck, even red armour sucks sometimes

[restive kraken]

Thats never what D Hina is intended for

I’m just saying she was designed with Hiero in mind, but they gave her enough tools to work outside of Hiero

[true shale]

D.Hina has taunt resist also! Very nice for P1

[covert spoke]

there was def some consideration for kaiten p1

[restive kraken]

^

[copper crescent]

Yeah dhina is for p1 kaiten not p2

[restive kraken]

Yes, hence why I said they gave her enough tools to work outside of Hiero, the intended raid

But she’s not gonna shit on Kaiten the same way she does on Hiero

[covert spoke]

yeah well

[restive kraken]

Nor would she shit on Greg the same way

[covert spoke]

i feel like thats a mistake if units are designed that strong

[restive kraken]

Not really, they do want to introduce more tools for us to clear

[true shale]

You are all on a super distant tangent from how this topic started though.

[restive kraken]

Powercreeep is always existent

And necessary

[west perch]

hence aaris indeed does not have a raid

[restive kraken]

Otherwise newer players will eat shit all year

[true shale]

Idk if you were even about to have a debate or not…

[pure vessel]

a good enough dps will find their way into basically every raid where people can fit her in

[west perch]

just because she stomps on most blue content doesn't mean they are her raids

[covert spoke]

i thought you were talking about this from earliest pov

[sleek flicker]

...

[restive kraken]

A Aris definitely had a raid they wanted to trivalize

[copper crescent]

Srkr

[restive kraken]

But same as D Hina

[past spruce]

Probably srkr

[restive kraken]

She has enough power to shit on the other raids too

[covert spoke]

any raid with increased dmg burst window

[west perch]

where's my red adjacent armour type then

[pure vessel]

they might have given some pieces in her kit that were intended specifically for certain raids but I don't think it's correct to say "she was designed for x raid"

[west perch]

why is it yellow

[restive kraken]

Until the lunatic difficulty has some mechanic that prevents A Aris from existing

[pure vessel]

she's just a stupidly powerful red striker dps

[restive kraken]

Like how D Hina is reduced to a bodythrow on Geburah

Cause they realized ayo this unit kinda fucking busted

[covert spoke]

shes a pretty good one though

[restive kraken]

Yes

Thats how busted she was

I’m not against powercreeps btw

[past spruce]

If you want to complain about busted, how about we talk about s.hanako

[restive kraken]

She has her niche and is tolerable imo

[west perch]

oh hey i didn't even need to read story to claim this one

[restive kraken]

She got powercrept by B Hoshi in Peroro

Not a problem

[true shale]

I think this potential point is discussion is more interesting still, imo: #💬gameplay-discussion message

[past spruce]

Wth

Kisaki B tier?

[restive kraken]

Idk

[past spruce]

In what context?

[pure vessel]

like honestly I feel like kuroko and boshino are the weird fes dps exceptions in that their effectiveness is more limited to specific raids

[west perch]

i assume next raid is aaris' so nope

[covert spoke]

i think they want to make a boss where ex skills are less good

ie aa focus

[pure vessel]

boshino has utility in her tank form though and kuroko is a victim of not being able to eat kisaki buffs

[restive kraken]

Yeah, it definitely felt weird when Wakamo was already not eating all the buffs she can

[covert spoke]

not necessarily to the extent of set

consider kisaki as C or D tier on set

[restive kraken]

They limited Wakamo to largely ATK buffs and effectiveness buffs only

They limited B Hoshi to largely high def AoE

[obsidian heath]

yeah I can see a blue AA-focused boss

[pure vessel]

aside from those two I feel like fes dps generally find their way into every high difficulty raid in their color

[restive kraken]

They limited Kuroko to AA

[pure vessel]

even with bad mood

[restive kraken]

So they were right to add A Aris

[pure vessel]

can't believe they fucked up blue raids too

[restive kraken]

A blue ST DPS that can actually eat all the buffs but also have some AoE

[pure vessel]

[past spruce]

It was bound to happen eventually

But not this fast

[west perch]

not this fast?

[past spruce]

Imo only

[west perch]

more like about damn time

[restive kraken]

Its been ages lil bro

[pure vessel]

we had a good run bros

[restive kraken]

Its about damn time like aether said

[west perch]

blue GAs were so fucking awkward with troko

[restive kraken]

Did you not see what I said above regarding blue dps awkwardness

You cant benefit from all existing buffs with those dps units

[copper crescent]

Maybe the boss has ex dmg resist like set and builds groggy through aa and then the ex dmg resist is removed on groggy

[restive kraken]

Or they’re limited to very specific content

[copper crescent]

Or p1 aa and p2 ex