#💬gameplay-discussion

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echo oar
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the "skip uneru if you have mika" conversations were fun

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she was first on the chopping block if you couldn't roll em all

copper crescent
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Damn

opaque dagger
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Well...you still need to be able to raise her if you roll her

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DPS being first on chopping block makes sense

copper crescent
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It's not bad if you're just doing tor tbh

obsidian heath
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at least in the spaces I was around at the time, no would would have considered prioritizing isak even for a second

copper crescent
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Since you can 1pan most raids that uses uneru with uneru borrow

obsidian heath
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completely unhinged

opaque dagger
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These pull guides were never meant for Luna raiders anyway

tall glacier
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Isak was pretty niche...you had to be doing geb or special dps main

obsidian heath
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ins raider still wants imari for geb just as much as isak (actually more)

covert spoke
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hardcore->insane raiders dont even need anyone besides seia rio

opaque dagger
covert spoke
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imari went on to be used in every single raid besides slumpia

opaque dagger
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And Greg Luna was forced Special DPS

covert spoke
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and binah

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but she still saw some binah usage

lilac grove
opaque dagger
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Do you use her for Chesed for cycling filler

lilac grove
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cause iirc idols were mostly geb units

copper crescent
covert spoke
copper crescent
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We knew not much about imari usage early 2025

lilac grove
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why is an old guide being judged by the info after it's made

worldly sun
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on idol banner release idols were like mostly geb only, with imari showing up in chok too, there werent any other lunas yet and it was expected to be a 1 a year raid like krkg/greg was

copper crescent
lilac grove
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is it

covert spoke
worldly sun
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its very easy to go "why didnt they think of this situation that recently occured 2 years ago"

covert spoke
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one can be forgiven for not rating sfubuki as useful when there was no content for her

opaque dagger
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I think by the time people realized how valuable Mari Idol really was, the banner was already over

worldly sun
copper crescent
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Oh

opaque dagger
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Since iirc it was very early in this half year cycle

lilac grove
worldly sun
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you do realise rio fest is not happened again

covert spoke
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but if u look at imari or rio or seia and dont think they are broken then you should not give advice

worldly sun
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its in the past

copper crescent
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Nvm it's in the past

marble gust
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ngl even I don't get the imari propaganda for newbies

lilac grove
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isn't rio like way high in the prio before

marble gust
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why are 2 healers suddenly good to have/must pull

worldly sun
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its a 6 month look ahead that was around for the 6 months then unpinned

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this was a year ago

steady prairie
worldly sun
marble gust
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rated by you guys

covert spoke
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shes adequately rated

grand lagoon
copper crescent
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she is rated and whelmed

lilac grove
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if you're just doin torment she's not as necessary NodokaRelax

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which is quite a high diff already for the target gph audience

copper crescent
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Yes

opaque dagger
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Does a Koharu team clear Tor Hiero 👀

copper crescent
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I think so

tall glacier
marble gust
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utility aoe healer suddenly more worth than a unique buffer shocking

obsidian heath
copper crescent
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Dps are so strong rn that she likely could

covert spoke
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i think msreisa is underglazed

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but also shes not gamebreaking

marble gust
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imari prolly solves most ur healing issues but i dont rly think shes must pull for newbies

copper crescent
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now we fight...?

covert spoke
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outside frr

opaque dagger
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You cannot deny though, how much easier life is with Mari Idol

obsidian heath
copper crescent
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Damn i miss hinwah

covert spoke
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there's definitely something to be said about resource allocation with units like kisaki, imari, msreisa

copper crescent
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Mreisa is good for tor+ ppl, not so much newbies imo

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Newbies game is mainly hyperbuff and then win

grand lagoon
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newbies doko

copper crescent
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Most ins aren't gonna need mreisa

marble gust
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🦖

opaque dagger
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You kinda need to think about having an AoE healer once you start pushing FRRs and AoE healing raids like Kurokage

marble gust
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hanako is right there

opaque dagger
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And honestly, if you're using Trinity mats on Hanako, might as well raise Reisa Magic instead

copper crescent
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The thing is

marble gust
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yea not like hanako is free

copper crescent
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Ur pulling mreisa

tall glacier
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Newbies do get checked by healing checks like hiero and geb but for the most part free healers are ok

grand lagoon
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everyone i see chatting here are vets ReisaDerp

marble gust
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mats>pyrox suddenly

covert spoke
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i pulled mreisa on my jp alt that started on her banner
i have used her in every single TA since

marble gust
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☹️

opaque dagger
copper crescent
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Yes this is gph graduates channel

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U can clear tors without mreisa

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Comfortably too

marble gust
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i got both hanako oshig upgraded and soon mreisa

opaque dagger
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All depends on pull plans tbh

simple ravine
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m reisa underglazedNatsustare

opaque dagger
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If you can't afford, nothing you can do

snow portal
copper crescent
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Well my point is, you can clear tors with like 50% of the meta units

lilac grove
opaque dagger
copper crescent
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Newbies don't need the whole set of supports to do tors

snow portal
marble gust
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build your farmables

covert spoke
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there is something to be said about how much tankier mreisa makes you on a ton of bosses

obsidian heath
marble gust
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though i built fuuka for peroro

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her heal is bit better than oshig basic

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with repo

snow portal
copper crescent
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Mreisa is rly good yeah but not rly a newbie pull

worldly sun
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you know this was clearly satire

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like its a very unlikely scenario

copper crescent
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Newbies can have their healing needs with imari

round kayak
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Damm why is Alex under fire now

covert spoke
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did u buy the imari ticket tho

fleet narwhal
daring coral
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Lmao

round kayak
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wtf happened

worldly sun
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anyway im at the point where i can afford "nice to have" units like imari

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so it would be nice to have her

fleet narwhal
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i think we should all pull for takane

lilac grove
marble gust
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me calling imari overrated while already borrowed her for like 6 raids till now

copper crescent
covert spoke
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max fuuka heal heater and repo on geb

lilac grove
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what's the repos for

round kayak
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Heal yes, but why repo?

opaque dagger
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

snow portal
marble gust
round kayak
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is this peroro or geburah

covert spoke
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get you a girl taht can do both

marble gust
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and getting targetted by minions

opaque dagger
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Basically, Luna balding™

round kayak
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lovely AI pathing there

steady prairie
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good old pathing

snow portal
covert spoke
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think i got
tyuuka dupe (ue30-40)
xserina (new)
hiyori dupe (free 4* waah)

round kayak
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gimme plana gacha animation and my life is yours Nexon

copper crescent
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I mean iirc they said smth about plana animation

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Idk when it'll come tho

snow portal
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Truthfully I was hoping for small chance to smash a limited I didn't have clueless

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Purely for collection purposes

round kayak
snow portal
copper crescent
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Vol F Part TWO

covert spoke
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it'd be kinda cool if owning phena's card was canon and we used it somehow

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i thought they might do something with it when they let us remake it but idk

snow portal
simple igloo
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would be cool if theres a story branch where you can pay off abydos debt and own hoshino as pet

steady prairie
fallen scroll
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hes been gone since vol F

summer kite
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owning black suit as a pet does sound nice

candid venture
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Nono.... blacksuit OWNS you as his pet

pallid inlet
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You both own each other

fallen scroll
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homie for life

daring coral
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-# no particular reason

simple igloo
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ibuki >>>> overrated hag

tall glacier
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Cn????ShunnySob

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It even has jp voice

daring coral
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it’s CNY

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So

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Yea

tall glacier
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Ik

daring coral
tall glacier
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Eve to be precise

simple igloo
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bruh

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they deleted the c word gif

pliant bluff
grand fern
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t rex chat

gleaming wren
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i am back gpd

candid venture
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Damn triple s tea party without any invitations 😭 this must be my year SeiaSunglasses

strange ridge
marble gust
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which hard mission to farm

covert spoke
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15-3

strange ridge
covert spoke
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16-3

strange ridge
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Iori, Aru, Hibiki, Hinata, Izuna, the likes

covert spoke
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24-3

strange ridge
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So as I was theorycracking the potential BG3 buff, the one thing I thought of is Wakamo's EX base dealing more dmg, more mystic accumulation, a massive increase in dmg dealt for the duration of the accumulation, and changing the activation condition of her basic. I thought the last part sounded ridiculous but turns out C. Utaha already did that.

marble gust
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i mean which double normal

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tf bg3

strange ridge
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T9-T10 tbe

strange ridge
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starting at the higher nodes

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or tiers

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yeah I think T8 is the start

supple heron
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5 win today

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Feel good

atomic arrow
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epic

covert spoke
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give wakamo brio sub but blue

supple heron
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Ytd i was at 20

covert spoke
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or put it in ex

supple heron
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When i login i was at 145

strange ridge
covert spoke
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sir theres a 3* iwak that is not sweat

strange ridge
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the fact that one fell down from 20 to 145

marble gust
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ok what the

strange ridge
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...

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just do T5+, they have a chance to drop T3 watches ShirokoPyroxium

supple heron
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I mostly buy from extra permit xD

marble gust
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for comparison my other t2s

atomic arrow
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wowee

supple heron
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Watches eat alot

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Same for hats

strange ridge
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T2 is fine

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T3-4 sure

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you have a sure chance to get the main gear from a run anyway

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with a low chance to get an extra

supple heron
covert spoke
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happens

supple heron
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So it better to just draw all 4

supple heron
strange ridge
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it happens

supple heron
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Rng at work

covert spoke
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idk i go from r80 to r260 in my sweat bracket some days on alt

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its just very easy to win offense this season

supple heron
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50/50

covert spoke
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if u have 50% winrate on offense this season thats like 25% in others

strange ridge
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then there's the Marina gamba NinDead

daring coral
wide basin
copper surge
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Is there any chance we ever get bg3?

wide basin
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no

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not in another 5 years

marble gust
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i dont even think 20% of the students got a bg

daring coral
marble gust
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tf thats more than i thought

copper surge
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BG sucks anyway

marble gust
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i thought there were like 30

ruby laurel
covert spoke
daring coral
atomic arrow
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🐦 worshipshake

marble gust
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mika bg when

steady prairie
marble gust
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😟

ruby laurel
wide basin
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anw gratz

steady prairie
wide basin
copper surge
covert spoke
daring coral
covert spoke
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halfway there

copper surge
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i really dont get why they give units bad bgs

daring coral
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8 left

covert spoke
copper surge
covert spoke
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its a good precedent

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to have a unit so unusable and not fix them

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and even if they did give her something she'd still be so unusable everywhere else that it'd be ass

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having that clear game design deliberately spelled out is good

copper surge
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I don tthink having some units being plain out bad is good game design

daring coral
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But why

covert spoke
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because you can ignore them

daring coral
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Then why does the unit even exist

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I’d rather have them be budget version of existing unit

full granite
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People fall for bad nori ragebait once again

covert spoke
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you dont have to bother farming hare to ue60 on the chance that she becomes meta for phase 1 indoor hovercraft vs purple armored wakamo

daring coral
simple igloo
covert spoke
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granted shes an old enough unit that it wouldnt be the worst if like, her basic was chihiro basic+

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but it sure would be annoying

copper surge
wide basin
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should have made it aoe

restive kraken
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tldr: Hare pre-bg and after-bg didn't make a difference

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and thus the whole argument is pointless

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no diff

covert spoke
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funnily enough i do think it's borderline anti solo yuuka tech next season but

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idk if u can kill even so

daring coral
wide basin
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qmarina user be like MomoiSmile

covert spoke
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i dont think ppl really use it on def though

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idk tho

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at least none in my jp bracket top 100

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but the point is that hare kit is a fuckin mess all around

restive kraken
covert spoke
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aoe stun that does no dmg
-recovery basic (not even aoe)
crit with crit ue despite no dmg
eva sub

bad stats, pin user

wide basin
covert spoke
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idk i remember from like a year ago now seeing her ue and taking a second look at her kit and how she scaled (previously only using her 1111 111 for robot jfd) and being like

huh so thats how they balance stuff/do tuning fixes in this game, good to know

simple ravine
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geburah tomorrowNatsustare

pliant bluff
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red mist tomorrow

torn thorn
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I forgot geb isn’t until after maint time

simple ravine
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huh is there maint tomorrow

copper crescent
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isn't maint in like 9h 42m

simple ravine
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its tomorrow for meKoyukiStare

copper crescent
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wait there's maint?

simple ravine
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thats what im askingKokonaQuestionKokonaQuestion

copper crescent
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no there isn't

torn thorn
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Maint time

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Never said maint

simple ravine
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i dont see any announcement

torn thorn
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There isn’t main

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T

simple ravine
marble gust
peak night
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Oh wow

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This one look cool af

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With Lunar NY theme on CN BA

copper crescent
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lny fireworks

peak night
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Gebruh is ready to shoot the firework

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🎆

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And my god people is shooting the fireworks on the outside

steep vortex
marble gust
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no

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tw edit

steep vortex
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ah

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i was about to say, they haven’t even had idols yet

marble gust
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dont think its official lol

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just funi edit

peak night
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Oh

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I thought it was real for some reason ChiakiXD

grim finch
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good edit

hallow plank
# marble gust

People forgetting about a certain 2887% firework in this lunar new year…

prime geyser
odd geyser
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i saw this def and had to do it to em

candid venture
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Geb for the new year 🧨

covert spoke
candid venture
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100k

covert spoke
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lowest value possible

simple igloo
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issue

upbeat hawk
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5.16

copper crescent
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lowest value is 100k bro

covert spoke
worthy charm
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CN got to geb already?

marble gust
fleet narwhal
marble gust
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oh edited

sleek flicker
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Early Happy Lunar New Year

stuck valley
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2 weeks AP worth?

sleek flicker
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Event?

stuck valley
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x2 normal

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and x2 hard

torn thorn
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Worth for normals!!!!!!

stuck valley
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tf is dinosaur

torn thorn
stuck valley
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bro

peak night
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rawr

worthy charm
steep vortex
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ap pack is f2p tho

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all monthlies too

worthy charm
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ap pack is kaiju whel

worthy charm
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monthlies are f2p tho

odd geyser
copper crescent
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I see now

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shanako no touch aaris = shanako no touch yuzu

simple igloo
worthy charm
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evasion ig

copper crescent
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nah it was bag and not eva

odd geyser
copper crescent
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tsubaki takes like 30k while smika takes 88k

worthy charm
odd geyser
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but the idea was aris would take out mika via collateral anyway

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seeing her exodia eimi was satisfying af

simple igloo
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is aris meta now

copper crescent
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yeah despite her charging on auto, aaris seems good

simple igloo
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even in tank season

odd geyser
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this guy's comp was just stally enough that I could get away with it

copper crescent
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ah

odd geyser
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Hibiki would clip her to death

simple igloo
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also did they update the way pvp evaluate who wins instead of 90% hp 1 student win 4 students 50% hp its the opposite

odd geyser
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can you rephrase that

simple igloo
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instead of 90% hp of 1 student remaining taking 90% of the bar it takes 1/4 * 90%

copper crescent
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if timer ends how pvp winner decided

simple igloo
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higher bar

odd geyser
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yeah, the fixed the bug where students dying messed with the percentage of the bar they took up

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if thats what you mean

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but like if you wanna enter with solo yuuka she'd still be 90% of the bar

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solo yuuka dmichiru + satsuko actually sounds funny af against that guy

simple igloo
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i want to chise

simple igloo
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she kills

odd geyser
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all his damage except tsubaki/eimi was weak to yellow

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but yeah, it's a coin flip without real damage

gleaming wren
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uoooooooo moe thanks for taking off your hoodie and show me your full swimsuit oooooo

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Hi

wanton pilot
simple ravine
ivory iron
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Timing may be a bit random, but i've been thinking & i think i should clarify some things. I've seen messages around here not to long ago about me not using any advice for the gameplay (from what i've understood) and thing like that i call my investment decent while others call it suboptimal.

The former isn't exactly true, because while i don't really use advice when it comes to investment on students because i don't care about that so much that i actually never asked advice for that & probably never will, i do use non-investment related advice (which student to borrow on the battle i'm trying to beat, which of mine to use, in which order to put the striker formation, for what i should use the students i use, etc.), so for investment related advice, i'd honestly say ya shouldn't bother with me, but non-investment related advice works just fine

As for the reason i consider my investment decent, even when other consider it sub optimal at best is because while it may be suboptimal at best for a balder... how do i say this properly? Imo casual players are significantly more flexible on what's decent & what's not.

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I needed to bring that up because i've had enough arguments with balders before (not necessarily here, i mean overall) and sometimes feel like a pretty high number of balders don't really understand the POV of a casual (which admitingly i think applies the other way around too).

wide basin
polar orbit
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Yes

torn thorn
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what is bro yapping about

tall glacier
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Gong xi fa cai

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Hong bao na lai

marble gust
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no angpao for whales

ancient star
wide basin
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....

marble gust
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please keep your own self imposed challenges to yourself

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if ur not borrowing a max dps it is automatically a self imposed challenge

obsidian heath
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if not care about gameplay then why yap in gameplay-oriented spaces

ivory iron
polar orbit
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You're free to raise whoever and do whatever, but just know there will come a time where that's gonna bite you in the butt and you won't be able to clear something because of it

ivory iron
polar orbit
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If you're okay with the consequences then so be it

wide basin
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sir

ancient star
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Investment is a core part of the gameplay

ivory iron
wide basin
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this place is meta-gameplay channel

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we only give the 'good' advice KazusaSip

marble gust
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not raising units properly is also a self imposed challenge

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like the lvl 69 tor clears

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for example

wide basin
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@severe steeple

marble gust
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big shian

wide basin
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he's awake iirc

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cuz lny

marble gust
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im gonna sleep after these stupid fireworks

peak night
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happy lny

untold tusk
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Level 69 is possible to clear Torment?

wide basin
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mine alr stopped

peak night
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and yeah, my place has been shooting fireworks all over the place

tall glacier
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Happy lny

wide basin
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so yes

steady prairie
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happy lny

steep vortex
marble gust
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kiki

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actually if you deny any single proper advice given here its a self imposed challenge

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end of discussion

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and since ur not good enough to even play the game properly

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please dont do it

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you think shian is rly a lvl 69 player skill

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lol

wide basin
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he played way longer than me

marble gust
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me too

copper crescent
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wait that was shi-an :o

steady prairie
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he sees shian and proceed to use a half baked hinata for shit and giggles?

marble gust
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dw they arent the first

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"i saw a lvl 69 tor clear" from other newbies

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and proceed to think they can do it too

simple igloo
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hi lunar happy new year to asia

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im late 29m bruh

marble gust
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i remember next krkg had a lvl 60 clear

copper crescent
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wtf

marble gust
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some week 2 players gonna go for tor

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imagine

copper crescent
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I wouldn't doubt it

summer dew
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hello

tall glacier
marble gust
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thats very sarcasm man

wide basin
copper crescent
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aaris probably makes smth possible

wide basin
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I remember it

marble gust
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no 1pan inthink

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but fine ig

wide basin
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2

marble gust
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whatever

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still

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"nah id win" mindset

obsidian heath
opaque dagger
copper crescent
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wait no i think aaris borrow with kisaki and cdmg buffer makes noob blue binah possible

ivory iron
# marble gust not raising units properly is also a self imposed challenge

I mean.. ig that one is kinda true, but i did notice some not really correctly understood like for example when i just merely mention a how a run in FRR went, some tend to take it as advice, even though the lack of a ? should imply it's not, so i kinda needed to clarify some things because of past miscommunication

marble gust
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also is bro looking down people cus theyre "balders"

ivory iron
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Not quite

copper crescent
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pretty much but I'm not gonna feed into rage baiters

wide basin
steady prairie
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honestly, if you don't play it optimal in this channel, you get judged to death

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that's all

marble gust
steady prairie
marble gust
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i think ive already told you this

ivory iron
marble gust
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you didnt post as a blog or smth and didnt clarify either when people tried to help you when you didnt ask for one

west perch
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malders

wide basin
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the casuals dont go here....

west perch
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tryhards

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balders

wide basin
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well me a casual so dont count

west perch
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trex, whel

wide basin
copper crescent
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now ik why gpd used to be elitist

marble gust
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like if i went on facebook and posted my extreme clear none gives a shit

steady prairie
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good thing me casual i don't belong here

wide basin
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good thing me casual i don't belong here

tall glacier
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good thing me casual i don't belong here

obsidian heath
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good thing me casual i don't belong here

west perch
marble gust
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but since ur here u look like ur finding for improvements? while also doing self imposed challenges? cmon

west perch
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wakamo dies without enough HP in yesod

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and yet she's core

untold tusk
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I am semi casual I only do Insane raids and perhaps Torment 6 months later

marble gust
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good thing me casual i don't belong here

west perch
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sfubuki and cmaki are fucking useless without enough damage for pillar break

summer dew
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i am casual too

marble gust
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mine not critting on greg organ

covert spoke
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also you play jp without being fully able to read which is even harder

west perch
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using Mina while at EX1/3 is trolling

marble gust
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excuses like "not enough resources" or whatever is fine

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but "i dont want to" ? like cmon man

west perch
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shoshi & mine die in gregorius without the investment

tall glacier
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we do mock battles just to find breakpoints for investment too ReisaDerp

west perch
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I can bring up so many goddamn examples

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Saying you care about gameplay and not investment is lying to yourself

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you don't care

marble gust
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my 3* mine dies exactly on 3rd choir

torn thorn
marble gust
steady prairie
brave totem
ivory iron
copper crescent
#
  • asks for advice from balders
  • "casuals > balders"
covert spoke
#

my students are getting scholarships yours are failing kindergarten

ivory iron
obsidian heath
#

I think the key problem is nearly every time you show up, half a dozen people get baited into this exact same conversation

copper crescent
#

I want an explanation

opaque dagger
#

Like, I don't care how you want to play, how you want to write status reports in any of these channels, that's your freedom and your right to do so. All we do is tell you when you're wrong, that's all. And unfortunately, despite what you think, the way you invest in students is terrible and should not be recommended to anyone at all (hence the importance of correcting you when you say it's decent)

feral jetty
covert spoke
#

there are some new players in this channel who take advice, earnestly misusing words and trying to rewrite definitions is not going to fly unless its about being f2p

wide basin
#

i wont take the bait nori

untold tusk
#

I just upgrade some students I like such as Idol Mari or Rio

stable pollen
#

Is the new Eimi and other alt limited

wide basin
#

no

copper crescent
#

no

feral jetty
#

i wonder why come here if casual anyway

dim frigate
#

happy new year

stable pollen
#

Nice I can skip

feral jetty
#

this is the gigabalder gameplay optimization chat

ivory iron
feral jetty
#

expect to see gigabalder gameplay optimizers here

restive kraken
#

There are things that are objectively true and false

tall glacier
#

Should i pull on the new alts or reisa mine banner

restive kraken
#

Give it a thought

tall glacier
obsidian heath
restive kraken
restive kraken
#

Literally a step by step guide to handhold you like a baby

torn thorn
#

also who reads guides

#

i just ask

covert spoke
#

to be fair that is for a single unit

torn thorn
#

and have other people spoonfeed mye

#

like a bebe

#

👶

#

🍼

covert spoke
#

we need the 800 step flowchart guide that updates with raid rotations for new players

restive kraken
#

Pls use it

#

My mom kinda homeless

opaque dagger
# ivory iron What i mean by flexible if that for example, i've heard someone say about a stud...

Ok, when it comes to clearing raids, there are minimum requirements in raising certain students that will make the raid go smoothly. Anything less and you're basically shooting yourself in the foot and making things harder. And that's okay, if you want to play that way. But don't go around saying it's decent and casuals can settle with that, because fyi, casuals would much rather have a brainded ez clear, and for that, they should go for appropriate invests in their supports

untold tusk
#

Kisaki was the first student I upgraded because I like Kisaki and happened to have enough mats

steady prairie
ivory iron
steady prairie
#

i say we yeet them to the mines until they can beat ins

feral jetty
#

the intention doesn't really matter

copper crescent
opaque dagger
ancient star
#

I guess the problem is... we aren't even sure what you are trying to accomplish right now ReisaDerp

marble gust
#

ngl kinda harsh but foolishless often bring more chaos than people with bad intentions

opaque dagger
#

Instead, say "yea I know these are bad, but idc, I'm happy with this and will work with this". No one will give a shit if you just said that

untold tusk
#

Wait they did not clear Insane yet smh

west perch
#

wao even i don't have everyone at mmmm

ancient star
untold tusk
#

Yes

restive kraken
#

LMAO

torn thorn
#

used her in 1 raid

tall glacier
#

stinky

ancient star
torn thorn
#

used her in 0 raids

wide basin
torn thorn
wide basin
#

literally 0 use

ivory iron
wide basin
#

chokmah isnt real

restive kraken
torn thorn
#

im f2p...

tall glacier
restive kraken
#

Nah

simple ravine
#

dumb s ui

restive kraken
#

Kurokage is f2p friendly

marble gust
#

most of us arent trolls so not doing what we tell is already wrong

#

unless u post on like facebook

simple ravine
#

used her only in binah tor and couldnt even clear cus i bricked akane move speed skill

copper crescent
untold tusk
#

I cleared ShiroKuro GA Insane and am to clear Insane Binah TA in some days

opaque dagger
#

It's honestly the same for every game

copper crescent
#

especially when other people told you the consequences beforehand

opaque dagger
#

Discord is full of tryhards, Reddit has the semi-competent players, Twitter players barely scraping through, FB players peak pepega

wide basin
#

I love eligmaed/building student mid raid ticket

opaque dagger
#

It never changes regardless of game

wide basin
ivory iron
obsidian heath
#

and golders only

marble gust
#

gold players arent scary

simple ravine
#

bro reddit is just art spam worse than bagen🙏

copper crescent
marble gust
#

the scary ones are the golders who think they "cleared endgame"

woven sigil
marble gust
#

"ba endgame is easy"

ext clearer with 2 ins

#

pollo 👍

tall glacier
marble gust
#

whales are whatever

obsidian heath
wide basin
#

surely it cant be that bad

feral jetty
grim finch
#

arch 1 year ago still chill in hardcore being lv90

marble gust
obsidian heath
#

the goat 6_lasers is probably a bigger tryhard than any of you all

marble gust
#

just daily chore 5min login

atomic arrow
opaque dagger
marble gust
#

so tutorial is endgame

covert spoke
#

step 254: upgrade ako heal to 7
step 255: fodder arius/shj blue tech notes for selector
step 256: clear up to floor 43 minimum in current frr
step 257: upgrade millennium basic from 1->4 (a, eimi if bg2, b, hibiki if followed reroll guide in ii, c, uasuna or chare if pulled, d, delay til step 271b)

crystal heart
marble gust
#

☹️

copper crescent
opaque dagger
dim frigate
restive kraken
#

You just happen to be in the channel where people take this game relatively more seriously

opaque dagger
steep vortex
#

we are the very small minority of this server lol

restive kraken
#

And majority of people here are still slackers

tall glacier
marble gust
#

lemme go to ba servers and open the gameplay channels ah yes so mald

steep vortex
#

yeah, gpd isn’t full of malders like it used to be

simple ravine
#

gpd is real channel other are mental illness

copper crescent
#

idk maybe there's just not a channel for ppl like the dude

restive kraken
#

Its just the same names

#

Compared to the overall player population

#

its nothing

tall glacier
steady prairie
feral jetty
opaque dagger
#

Why would I? There's no spicy art in bag

steady prairie
#

we're like the 10%? 20%? here

restive kraken
#

majority of BA players are slackers and you just gotta accept that, KR/TW players take it more seriously

marble gust
#

tbh 90% of the top rankers i see on raid lbs are unknown people

#

either im not that social or whatever

steep vortex
#

gpd is just 25 of the same people visiting here every day and then randoms asking for gameplay help every once in awhile

covert spoke
#

the average raider clears hardcore

restive kraken
covert spoke
feral jetty
restive kraken
#

Most kr malders reveal their tech

obsidian heath
#

not as big of a diff as I expected

opaque dagger
covert spoke
restive kraken
#

Gfl? Gfl2?

opaque dagger
#

GFL

restive kraken
#

Idk about that then

covert spoke
#

gfl2 is not a game

restive kraken
#

Anyways

simple ravine
#

HikariThinking i never saw any cn strat

steep vortex
wide basin
#

gfl2 has no leaderboard.... gs isnt a real gamemode

marble gust
#

i barely have enough time to cook my own rot idk how those people manage to even gatekeep strats

obsidian heath
#

still "only" 3.5M images

feral jetty
#

wow yeah i just opened bag

opaque dagger
feral jetty
#

the image spam really just never ends

restive kraken
#

Cn rotations are often kept secret cause it takes a few people’s effort to make and they don’t want that easily replicated

dim frigate
#

#closing the gap

feral jetty
#

how do you even have a conversation in there

restive kraken
#

Otherwise theres no diff

#

Majority BA players are slackers

copper crescent
#

bag are just rly good at remembering who they're talking to ig

restive kraken
#

Global players dont need or want to self cook

simple ravine
#

saw 6 images in a row there yesterdaymariprayhard

covert spoke
feral jetty
#

so they're the same as us?

covert spoke
#

its different

steep vortex
#

i self cook slacc clears because i’m so slacc i can’t even be bothered to watch hw KanaSleep

orchid axle
#

Hey balders

opaque dagger
#

I mean, most people play BA to relax, and high difficulty raids is quite literally the opposite

#

Can't blame them

simple ravine
#

hi aisha

opaque dagger
#

I'm just a balder at heart, so I naturally gravitate to it

restive kraken
#

Balder?

orchid axle
opaque dagger
#

My falling hair literally clogs up my laptop vents, have to clear it once every few days MikaXD

steep vortex
#

oh right yuck, geb tomorrow

marble gust
#

i used to incompetent mald a lot

simple ravine
#

ill start balding geburah in 68 years

marble gust
#

krkg ext sub 3min clear poggies

peak night
#

me literally gonna try to clear ins gebruh

steep vortex
#

i’ll finally do tor geb

wide basin
#

even I myself said me slacc

feral jetty
#

cooking up teams when i returned to the game was actually pretty fun

#

before i got my own kisaki and was able to copy most of the top hw

simple ravine
#

im also balderKoyukiStare

steep vortex
feral jetty
marble gust
#

im pretty sure theres multiple groups of people who help each other cook up rots

#

but i cant prove cus ive seen none of them

#

like that dexter meme

opaque dagger
#

Yea I found out a lot of tryhards in gacha games, they have private Discord servers for the tryhards

simple ravine
#

who knows what horror lies in the secret chinese private server

steep vortex
#

or there’s deniki who sits there for 10+ hours throwing himself at the boss

opaque dagger
#

Where they theorycraft in those servers

marble gust
copper crescent
#

maybe those ppl are too much for me

steep vortex
opaque dagger
#

Like, I've been into a JP community server for sweats

steep vortex
#

his first clears he does tho

marble gust
#

yea but the group of people behind those cooking

opaque dagger
#

They have like, most of the top 50 tryhards of the game

marble gust
#

are so unknown

restive kraken
opaque dagger
#

And they have a pinned channel for every major content

marble gust
#

it feels so alienated

restive kraken
#

Cooking is mostly on JP/CN/KR side

copper crescent
#

yeah

restive kraken
#

And when we talk bout rank 1 rots

dim frigate
#

this is why we need more acceleration ReisaDerp

restive kraken
#

Its often the work of 3-5 people

opaque dagger
#

Like, imagine a BA tryhard server where there's a dedicated channel for each raid boss

#

And for each boss they have various clears/notes/docs

restive kraken
#

You mean threads

scarlet talon
#

Hm, currently had 89k pyroxenes, will I be able to collect around 144k pyroxenes in total before the kei /b.arisu banner came out? Since I want to pull for (mg.suzumi + reisq, b.rio+himari, d.arisu+kei)

feral jetty
#

JP is months ahead of us though so i don't think it's fair to include it there

steep vortex
#

threads would be much better

copper crescent
#

holy f

restive kraken
#

It dont take much effort to set up something like that

marble gust
opaque dagger
#

Nah, they make full blown channels for each of them back then

marble gust
#

its like an underground business or smth

opaque dagger
#

Threads weren't around in 2021

obsidian heath
#

discord threads suck

feral jetty
#

yeah we global players just fucking suck

marble gust
#

ive seen cn clears where they thank people for helping cooking rots by tagging them and thats all

restive kraken
#

Like you realize

opaque dagger
#

Arch is so fascinated by the exclusivity of the tryharding community in CN

restive kraken
#

They also just follow JP/CN/KR homework

restive kraken
#

Right

wide basin
marble gust
opaque dagger
#

Not for BA exactly, but I just described it in BA terms to explain what the server is like

dim frigate
restive kraken
#

I was wondering, cause I dont see you in any of those na/asia clubs

quartz remnant
copper crescent
scarlet talon
marble gust
#

oh nvm tf

opaque dagger
#

Only here for the lood and the cute

wide basin
#

I mean piloting is normal, I seen them every raid in bunker

quartz remnant
#

Well here’s the tricky part
It’s technically public but it’s not intended for tourist

restive kraken
#

Tldr

dim frigate
restive kraken
#

BA giga slacc

marble gust
#

oh ye defo send me then

#

jk

opaque dagger
marble gust
#

anyway was just wondering who are these undercover people even jeez

quartz remnant
#

You can prob find it if you join some TW BA server and look for the clubs

opaque dagger
#

So it's like, 1 player taking half of top 20 AronaJoy

summer dew
#

what even is considered casual tbf?

fleet narwhal
fleet narwhal
opaque dagger
marble gust
#

something then nothing

quartz remnant
wide basin
restive kraken
steep vortex
#

casual to me is just, anything under 2 digit

fleet narwhal
#

yet another proof

summer dew
quartz remnant
steep vortex
#

me giga slacc f2p

opaque dagger
ancient star
restive kraken
marble gust
#

i dont rly mind that ngl

restive kraken
#

Its not prohibited here cause its some secret

marble gust
#

its how they cooked up the 52mil peroro the first place

restive kraken
#

Its prohibited because the rules state so

quartz remnant
restive kraken
#

I’m saying to not talk about it

opaque dagger
#

The plot twist

restive kraken
#

Its not something to be proud of either

steep vortex
#

if macro talk isn’t allowed here, this definitely shouldn’t be either

quartz remnant
#

Sure

opaque dagger
#

The more gacha games you play, the more you realize it's just the same shit over and over again

#

Truly, gacha game communities never change

restive kraken
wide basin
#

the duality of gacha games top leaderboard, 40% is macro, 40% is piloting KazusaSip

#

anw

marble gust
#

anyway whatever the issue was how you never see competitve rot making

fleet narwhal
restive kraken
#

You guys think too much bout all these things

simple ravine
#

what about other 20%

fleet narwhal
#

but what is casual and isnt is in the eye of the beholder

opaque dagger
summer dew
#

thats a fair point

#

and exactly how it should be seen

steep vortex
fleet narwhal
summer dew
#

ur still kaiju tho, deno

marble gust
restive kraken
opaque dagger
#

The hours of live theorycrafting, I've participated in it before

simple ravine
#

im pure f2p actually

opaque dagger
#

It's actually a really fun process

obsidian heath
steep vortex
restive kraken
#

Its usually an intermix of those

marble gust
#

😔

fleet narwhal
torn thorn
#

it’s hard being a f2p these days

dim frigate
#

it’s hard being a f2p these days

summer dew
#

it’s hard being a f2p these days

steep vortex
fleet narwhal
#

true true

simple ravine
#

my f2p powers will defeat shin godzilla

marble gust
#

i tried researching bilibili but their chats are member exclusive

hallow plank
restive kraken
#

Hearing people talk about balding here kinda hurts my head

hallow plank
#

I’m impressed how some of the top malders have the energy to cook rotations for every raid.

marble gust
#

they must have other people helping to cook

#

and those people

torn thorn
#

thats whhy i never bald alwyas comfy

marble gust
#

are the real ones im interested

obsidian heath
#

it's iterative

restive kraken
#

Its not a problem for them to have multiple people working on one rotation

#

Its pretty cool actually

wide basin
#

did shin retire yet, iirc he said he retire after pelolo

marble gust
#

yea but who?

wide basin
summer dew
#

i never bald me always comfy

restive kraken
feral jetty
#

shin balded GA chesed

restive kraken
#

They actually get credited

fleet narwhal
#

kaijushin never stops balding

marble gust
#

yea ive seen people credit others

restive kraken
#

Both JP/CN do so on twitter or bilibili

fleet narwhal
#

hes a true lizard

marble gust
#

guess im too slacc

restive kraken
#

So what are you confused about

simple ravine
#

"thanks V for providing an eu server account"

restive kraken
#

You’re speaking like its some shady ass group cooking rotations up

fleet narwhal
marble gust
wide basin
#

that's slacc to him

#

...

opaque dagger
#

Yea it's iterative

fleet narwhal
#

slacc for shin is mega bald by normie standard

opaque dagger
#

It's like, first you find a 1 cost save, and then another 1 cost save, etc etc

restive kraken
#

I’m not gonna talk about their inner workings, in short its just people helping each other out

#

Its just a game

marble gust
#

ive heard of some actual illegal ways they make their rots

#

but wont discuss ofc

simple ravine
#

Natsustare are private servers illegal

wide basin
#

yes

restive kraken
#

..

marble gust
fleet narwhal
#

uh ye obviously lmfao

obsidian heath
#

are crit clients illegal??

restive kraken
wide basin
#

that's just stat modifier

marble gust
#

yea this is why i dont

simple ravine
#

damn chinese players

marble gust
wide basin
#

so yes

restive kraken
wide basin
#

anw me wasting an hour in this channel is dumb, ig I'll be back to bunker for another month anw

simple ravine
#

damn southeast asia

torn thorn
#

ssgh whleeveon

restive kraken
#

The rats in cn at least try to hide it

And theres those who dont need such tricks

#

After all you still need to go through the math to see if some check points are doable

marble gust
#

id prolly be more competitive if i was actually invited to one of those

#

but im not

restive kraken
#

Sure…

covert spoke
marble gust
#

also envy them having friend groups that mald gameplay together

restive kraken
#

If you play on global servers you could easily join one of those if you actually are one of those

#

Easily

marble gust
#

easily spoken

restive kraken
#

What server are you on then

#

I doubt you play on kr/tw

marble gust
#

asia

hallow plank
restive kraken
#

Bruh, then the entry to ARS or the like isnt that high

covert spoke
#

its very low

wide basin
#

Ars is slacc club now

opaque dagger
wide basin
covert spoke
#

they are too noob for me to consider joining

restive kraken
#

Fyi, even the cn clubs have very low req

marble gust
#

well didnt expect clubs to have their own rot cookers id always thought its different people

restive kraken
#

Usually no reqs at all

marble gust
restive kraken
#

I’m telling you

marble gust
#

also lIke sh doesnt cook at all LOL

restive kraken
#

You have this weird fantasy about competitive clubs in BA

covert spoke
#

u dont even need to join club

fleet narwhal
#

im in meds and the only requirement is being in plat

opaque dagger
#

Tbf, some prolly exist for CN KR JP

fleet narwhal
#

you dont even need to do tor as long as you get plat

opaque dagger
#

Outside of that, nah

restive kraken
#

None of them cook except jp/cn/kr GIGA malders

summer dew
#

im in some random club that has 2 active members and idc

covert spoke
#

and ur alr in bunker

summer dew
#

i just borrow from joe and few other meds

marble gust
#

im just like someone wondering how chocolates are made and wanna see the factory

opaque dagger
#

So what Arch is basically saying is that

marble gust
#

type shi

fleet narwhal
opaque dagger
#

We're not good enough for him

marble gust
#

u dont cook rots

opaque dagger
#

I do

#

Just not for you