#💬gameplay-discussion
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Damn
Well...you still need to be able to raise her if you roll her
DPS being first on chopping block makes sense
It's not bad if you're just doing tor tbh
at least in the spaces I was around at the time, no would would have considered prioritizing isak even for a second
Since you can 1pan most raids that uses uneru with uneru borrow
completely unhinged
These pull guides were never meant for Luna raiders anyway
Isak was pretty niche...you had to be doing geb or special dps main
ins raider still wants imari for geb just as much as isak (actually more)
hardcore->insane raiders dont even need anyone besides seia rio
Until you realized that it was literally fortune telling since Geb reran twice 
imari went on to be used in every single raid besides slumpia
And Greg Luna was forced Special DPS
was this a thing back when that guide was made
Do you use her for Chesed for cycling filler
cause iirc idols were mostly geb units
No
yeah as a smika alternative for shanako
We knew not much about imari usage early 2025
why is an old guide being judged by the info after it's made
on idol banner release idols were like mostly geb only, with imari showing up in chok too, there werent any other lunas yet and it was expected to be a 1 a year raid like krkg/greg was
It shouldn't be, but the guide shouldn't be circulating in gph if being outdated
if u have no grasp on what units will be good or bad (and there are plenty who did) then you shouldnt make pull guides in advance
its very easy to go "why didnt they think of this situation that recently occured 2 years ago"
one can be forgiven for not rating sfubuki as useful when there was no content for her
I think by the time people realized how valuable Mari Idol really was, the banner was already over
what are you talking about bro
Oh
Since iirc it was very early in this half year cycle
i don't even use imari that much even these days
for the target audience it was fine
you do realise rio fest is not happened again
but if u look at imari or rio or seia and dont think they are broken then you should not give advice
its in the past
Nvm it's in the past
ngl even I don't get the imari propaganda for newbies
isn't rio like way high in the prio before
why are 2 healers suddenly good to have/must pull
its a 6 month look ahead that was around for the 6 months then unpinned
this was a year ago

imari remains by far the most overrated unit in the game
rated by you guys
shes adequately rated

she is rated and whelmed
if you're just doin torment she's not as necessary 
which is quite a high diff already for the target gph audience

Yes
Does a Koharu team clear Tor Hiero 👀
I think so
Yes
utility aoe healer suddenly more worth than a unique buffer shocking
imari solves all healing on tor-
msreisa is overglazed
Dps are so strong rn that she likely could
imari prolly solves most ur healing issues but i dont rly think shes must pull for newbies
now we fight...?
outside frr
You cannot deny though, how much easier life is with Mari Idol
for newbies who won't approach lun within next year it's ehh
Damn i miss hinwah
there's definitely something to be said about resource allocation with units like kisaki, imari, msreisa
Mreisa is good for tor+ ppl, not so much newbies imo
Newbies game is mainly hyperbuff and then win
newbies doko
Most ins aren't gonna need mreisa
🦖
You kinda need to think about having an AoE healer once you start pushing FRRs and AoE healing raids like Kurokage
hanako is right there
And honestly, if you're using Trinity mats on Hanako, might as well raise Reisa Magic instead
The thing is
yea not like hanako is free
Ur pulling mreisa
Newbies do get checked by healing checks like hiero and geb but for the most part free healers are ok

everyone i see chatting here are vets 
mats>pyrox suddenly
i pulled mreisa on my jp alt that started on her banner
i have used her in every single TA since
☹️
If you can afford, imo you should go for the upgrade. Otherwise yea, stick with Hanako
Yes this is gph graduates channel
U can clear tors without mreisa
Comfortably too
All depends on pull plans tbh
m reisa underglazed
If you can't afford, nothing you can do
Pull everyone 
Well my point is, you can clear tors with like 50% of the meta units
ssg healer main 
time to build xhanae
Be like JP bros, just have everyone
Newbies don't need the whole set of supports to do tors
Exactly
build your farmables
i dont own her LOL
there is something to be said about how much tankier mreisa makes you on a ton of bosses
most overrated unit in the game but I WILL spend 30 usd for a 5% chance of getting her
Craziest "This you?" I've seen all year
Mreisa is rly good yeah but not rly a newbie pull
Newbies can have their healing needs with imari
Damm why is Alex under fire now
did u buy the imari ticket tho
Lmao
wtf happened
anyway im at the point where i can afford "nice to have" units like imari
so it would be nice to have her
i think we should all pull for takane
wait why'd you need heal/repos for peroro am i havin a stronk
me calling imari overrated while already borrowed her for like 6 raids till now
R u the bunny
Luna
max fuuka heal heater and repo on geb
what's the repos for
Heal yes, but why repo?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Only whales buy that thing. I did and got scammed
#💬gameplay-discussion message
idk fuck like chise for running to the right for no reason
is this peroro or geburah
get you a girl taht can do both
and getting targetted by minions
Basically, Luna balding™
lovely AI pathing there
good old pathing
Now if only we could get some pathing for pink slips to my pulls, Arona

think i got
tyuuka dupe (ue30-40)
xserina (new)
hiyori dupe (free 4* waah)
I would've preferred a T.Yuuka dupe over B.Yoshimi dupe
Truthfully I was hoping for small chance to smash a limited I didn't have 
Purely for collection purposes
vol F part 2
Plana is resting.
Vol F Part TWO
it'd be kinda cool if owning phena's card was canon and we used it somehow
i thought they might do something with it when they let us remake it but idk
They introduce he had massive pyrox debt from trying to save his world. If you pay it off it restores his timeline and everything in it 
would be cool if theres a story branch where you can pay off abydos debt and own hoshino as pet

give us blacksuit back

hes been gone since vol F
owning black suit as a pet does sound nice
homie for life
There should be a story branch where we are able to spoil Mika as much as we want
Buying her accessories, cakes, new classroom supplies, etc.
-# no particular reason
ibuki >>>> overrated hag
Ik

Eve to be precise
t rex chat
i am back gpd
Damn triple s tea party without any invitations 😭 this must be my year 
Lazy rich girls
Hello back gpd
which hard mission to farm
15-3
the most important eleph you need for the priority
16-3
Iori, Aru, Hibiki, Hinata, Izuna, the likes
24-3
So as I was theorycracking the potential BG3 buff, the one thing I thought of is Wakamo's EX base dealing more dmg, more mystic accumulation, a massive increase in dmg dealt for the duration of the accumulation, and changing the activation condition of her basic. I thought the last part sounded ridiculous but turns out C. Utaha already did that.
im braindead
i mean which double normal
tf bg3
+100 accuracy 👍
epic
give wakamo brio sub but blue
Ytd i was at 20
or put it in ex
When i login i was at 145
what a sweaty bracket
sir theres a 3* iwak that is not sweat
not that
the fact that one fell down from 20 to 145
ok what the
I mostly buy from extra permit xD
for comparison my other t2s
wowee
T2 is fine
T3-4 sure
you have a sure chance to get the main gear from a run anyway
with a low chance to get an extra
weak looking+bad def
happens
So it better to just draw all 4
Nah
not even with a weak looking and bad defense
it happens
Rng at work
idk i go from r80 to r260 in my sweat bracket some days on alt
its just very easy to win offense this season
50/50
if u have 50% winrate on offense this season thats like 25% in others
then there's the Marina gamba 
Is there any chance we ever get bg3?
i dont even think 20% of the students got a bg
I’d rather have them release like 4x the bg more than their normal pace
tf thats more than i thought
BG sucks anyway
i thought there were like 30


🐦 
mika bg when

😟

not 100... (lny should be special enough for b100 day if u do celebrate them)
anw gratz


Hello there bird, I failed vs your pvp comp
u are forgetting koyuki, renge, hare, xhanae, chinatsu, chise, umika, shifumi, yoshimi, misaki bgs i fear
halfway there
i really dont get why they give units bad bgs
hare deserved a bad bg
why?
its a good precedent
to have a unit so unusable and not fix them
and even if they did give her something she'd still be so unusable everywhere else that it'd be ass
having that clear game design deliberately spelled out is good
I don tthink having some units being plain out bad is good game design
But why
because you can ignore them
Then why does the unit even exist
I’d rather have them be budget version of existing unit
People fall for bad nori ragebait once again
you dont have to bother farming hare to ue60 on the chance that she becomes meta for phase 1 indoor hovercraft vs purple armored wakamo

thats my line
granted shes an old enough unit that it wouldnt be the worst if like, her basic was chihiro basic+
but it sure would be annoying
I see... 🤔
tldr: Hare pre-bg and after-bg didn't make a difference
and thus the whole argument is pointless
no diff
funnily enough i do think it's borderline anti solo yuuka tech next season but
idk if u can kill even so

qmarina user be like 
i dont think ppl really use it on def though
idk tho
at least none in my jp bracket top 100
but the point is that hare kit is a fuckin mess all around

aoe stun that does no dmg
-recovery basic (not even aoe)
crit with crit ue despite no dmg
eva sub
bad stats, pin user

idk i remember from like a year ago now seeing her ue and taking a second look at her kit and how she scaled (previously only using her 1111 111 for robot jfd) and being like
huh so thats how they balance stuff/do tuning fixes in this game, good to know
geburah tomorrow
huh is there maint tomorrow
isn't maint in like 9h 42m
its tomorrow for me
wait there's maint?
thats what im asking

no there isn't
i dont see any announcement

lny fireworks
Gebruh is ready to shoot the firework
🎆
And my god people is shooting the fireworks on the outside

huh? china gets geb now?
good edit
People forgetting about a certain 2887% firework in this lunar new year…
Geb for the new year 🧨
100k
issue
5.16
lowest value is 100k bro
doesnt exist
CN got to geb already?
i thought its 100k 1mil 10mil?
I think you are missing the point
Early Happy Lunar New Year
2 weeks AP worth?
Event?
Worth for normals!!!!!!
tf is dinosaur

bro
rawr

ap pack is kaiju whel
monthlies are f2p tho
how tf tsubaki didnt die but smika did
evasion ig
nah it was bag and not eva
yeah, she kept getting in the way
tsubaki takes like 30k while smika takes 88k

but the idea was aris would take out mika via collateral anyway
seeing her exodia eimi was satisfying af
is aris meta now
yeah despite her charging on auto, aaris seems good
even in tank season
this guy's comp was just stally enough that I could get away with it
ah
Hibiki would clip her to death
also did they update the way pvp evaluate who wins instead of 90% hp 1 student win 4 students 50% hp its the opposite
can you rephrase that
instead of 90% hp of 1 student remaining taking 90% of the bar it takes 1/4 * 90%
if timer ends how pvp winner decided
higher bar
yeah, the fixed the bug where students dying messed with the percentage of the bar they took up
if thats what you mean
but like if you wanna enter with solo yuuka she'd still be 90% of the bar
solo yuuka dmichiru + satsuko actually sounds funny af against that guy
i want to 
but tsubaki have stronger aa
she kills
all his damage except tsubaki/eimi was weak to yellow
but yeah, it's a coin flip without real damage
uoooooooo moe thanks for taking off your hoodie and show me your full swimsuit oooooo
Hi


Timing may be a bit random, but i've been thinking & i think i should clarify some things. I've seen messages around here not to long ago about me not using any advice for the gameplay (from what i've understood) and thing like that i call my investment decent while others call it suboptimal.
The former isn't exactly true, because while i don't really use advice when it comes to investment on students because i don't care about that so much that i actually never asked advice for that & probably never will, i do use non-investment related advice (which student to borrow on the battle i'm trying to beat, which of mine to use, in which order to put the striker formation, for what i should use the students i use, etc.), so for investment related advice, i'd honestly say ya shouldn't bother with me, but non-investment related advice works just fine
As for the reason i consider my investment decent, even when other consider it sub optimal at best is because while it may be suboptimal at best for a balder... how do i say this properly? Imo casual players are significantly more flexible on what's decent & what's not.
I needed to bring that up because i've had enough arguments with balders before (not necessarily here, i mean overall) and sometimes feel like a pretty high number of balders don't really understand the POV of a casual (which admitingly i think applies the other way around too).
Is that Chinese geburah
it's lunar new year right now
Yes
no angpao for whales
what are ur goal exactly
There's no "decent / suboptimal" way to play this game. If you enjoy what you do, then so be it, that's how you want to play this game, but just know that most of the harder content require from you to build accordingly and not just throw whatever you think is "decent".
....
please keep your own self imposed challenges to yourself
if ur not borrowing a max dps it is automatically a self imposed challenge
if not care about gameplay then why yap in gameplay-oriented spaces
Smth technicly gameplay related that's been kinda bugging around a few places, here included
You're free to raise whoever and do whatever, but just know there will come a time where that's gonna bite you in the butt and you won't be able to clear something because of it
I said i don't care about investment, not about gameplay overall
If you're okay with the consequences then so be it
sir
Investment is a core part of the gameplay
That's perfectly fair
not raising units properly is also a self imposed challenge
like the lvl 69 tor clears
for example
@severe steeple
big shian
im gonna sleep after these stupid fireworks
happy lny
Level 69 is possible to clear Torment?
mine alr stopped
and yeah, my place has been shooting fireworks all over the place
Happy lny
they alr clear it with lower lv
so yes
happy lny

kiki
actually if you deny any single proper advice given here its a self imposed challenge
end of discussion
and since ur not good enough to even play the game properly
please dont do it
you think shian is rly a lvl 69 player skill
lol
wait that was shi-an :o
dw they arent the first
"i saw a lvl 69 tor clear" from other newbies
and proceed to think they can do it too
i remember next krkg had a lvl 60 clear
wtf
I wouldn't doubt it
hello
"nah, i'd win"
thats very sarcasm man
ye 2pan
aaris probably makes smth possible
I remember it
2
inb4 shian clears goz lun at lv69 with mechalice
Here's the thing, these channels are all gameplay oriented channels where people are giving help and info. Your POV does not matter here when it comes down to what is and isn't decent. For gameplay purposes, the way you invest is terrible, and should be stated as such. You calling it "decent" runs the risk of misinforming other players who read the chat
wait no i think aaris borrow with kisaki and cdmg buffer makes noob blue binah possible
I mean.. ig that one is kinda true, but i did notice some not really correctly understood like for example when i just merely mention a how a run in FRR went, some tend to take it as advice, even though the lack of a ? should imply it's not, so i kinda needed to clarify some things because of past miscommunication
also is bro looking down people cus theyre "balders"
Not quite
pretty much but I'm not gonna feed into rage baiters
honestly, if you don't play it optimal in this channel, you get judged to death
that's all
well yea for me i can understand what ur doing

i think ive already told you this
I just don't really know what to properly call the opposite of casuals here
you didnt post as a blog or smth and didnt clarify either when people tried to help you when you didnt ask for one
malders
the casuals dont go here....
well me a casual so dont count
trex, whel

now ik why gpd used to be elitist
like if i went on facebook and posted my extreme clear none gives a shit
good thing me casual i don't belong here
good thing me casual i don't belong here
good thing me casual i don't belong here
good thing me casual i don't belong here
Investment is tied to gameplay. Some students are outright not viable to use without investment
but since ur here u look like ur finding for improvements? while also doing self imposed challenges? cmon
I am semi casual I only do Insane raids and perhaps Torment 6 months later
good thing me casual i don't belong here
sfubuki and cmaki are fucking useless without enough damage for pillar break
i am casual too
mine not critting on greg organ
you are also new and have not been playing long, you are also doing much better than the other player
also you play jp without being fully able to read which is even harder
using Mina while at EX1/3 is trolling
excuses like "not enough resources" or whatever is fine
but "i dont want to" ? like cmon man
shoshi & mine die in gregorius without the investment
we do mock battles just to find breakpoints for investment too 
I can bring up so many goddamn examples
Saying you care about gameplay and not investment is lying to yourself
you don't care
my 3* mine dies exactly on 3rd choir
i play global and i can barely read, wheres my award

you already get chained to gph as punishment

Eh, lying to myself is 1 thing that's deffinetly not quite true.
- asks for advice from balders
- "casuals > balders"
my students are getting scholarships yours are failing kindergarten
That i didn't even remotely imply
I think the key problem is nearly every time you show up, half a dozen people get baited into this exact same conversation
here, explain "Imo casual players are significantly more flexible on what's decent & what's not."
I want an explanation
Like, I don't care how you want to play, how you want to write status reports in any of these channels, that's your freedom and your right to do so. All we do is tell you when you're wrong, that's all. And unfortunately, despite what you think, the way you invest in students is terrible and should not be recommended to anyone at all (hence the importance of correcting you when you say it's decent)
they mean that casual players give less of a shit about what's optimal or not
there are some new players in this channel who take advice, earnestly misusing words and trying to rewrite definitions is not going to fly unless its about being f2p
I just upgrade some students I like such as Idol Mari or Rio
Is the new Eimi and other alt limited
no
no
i wonder why come here if casual anyway
happy new year
Nice I can skip
this is the gigabalder gameplay optimization chat
What i mean by flexible if that for example, i've heard someone say about a student (don't remember which) that any less then 5MMM in skills is a waste of time, but casual tend to not think of that to that extend, like it takes waaaay lower investment for a casual to think of it as a waste of time
expect to see gigabalder gameplay optimizers here
There are things that are objectively true and false
Should i pull on the new alts or reisa mine banner
Give it a thought

That's literally it on that 1
correction: any less than ue2 5mmm is a waste of time
Hello theres literally a guide that tells you to raise to whatever step you can
Literally a step by step guide to handhold you like a baby
to be fair that is for a single unit
we need the 800 step flowchart guide that updates with raid rotations for new players
Ok, when it comes to clearing raids, there are minimum requirements in raising certain students that will make the raid go smoothly. Anything less and you're basically shooting yourself in the foot and making things harder. And that's okay, if you want to play that way. But don't go around saying it's decent and casuals can settle with that, because fyi, casuals would much rather have a brainded ez clear, and for that, they should go for appropriate invests in their supports
Kisaki was the first student I upgraded because I like Kisaki and happened to have enough mats
newbie flowchart sounds like hell
Also another thing to clarify, misinforming was literally never the intention in the 1st place
i say we yeet them to the mines until they can beat ins
the intention doesn't really matter
you can do bad things without having the intent to, do you not apologize in such a case?
Doesn't matter what your intention what, how your messages came across is what matters. I know what you're trying to get at, but the way you said that can easily be misunderstood by people who are less fluent in English
I guess the problem is... we aren't even sure what you are trying to accomplish right now 
ngl kinda harsh but foolishless often bring more chaos than people with bad intentions
Instead, say "yea I know these are bad, but idc, I'm happy with this and will work with this". No one will give a shit if you just said that
Wait they did not clear Insane yet smh
wao even i don't have everyone at mmmm
Have you? 
Yes
LMAO
stinky
Amazing
why posting 1 of the 🚮 wasteful unit

literally 0 use
Tbf when i do so without the intention, i'm usually never aware of the part where i'm doing smth wrong like that
chokmah isnt real
Cause ur a coward and didn’t do lunatic bro
im f2p...
Give her to me
🫳
Nah
dumb s ui
Kurokage is f2p friendly
most of us arent trolls so not doing what we tell is already wrong
unless u post on like facebook
used her only in binah tor and couldnt even clear cus i bricked akane move speed skill
you not being aware of your consequences does not mean you didn't do something bad
I cleared ShiroKuro GA Insane and am to clear Insane Binah TA in some days
Nah bro, have you seen the copers on Reddit and Twitter 
It's honestly the same for every game
especially when other people told you the consequences beforehand
Discord is full of tryhards, Reddit has the semi-competent players, Twitter players barely scraping through, FB players peak pepega
I love eligmaed/building student mid raid ticket
It never changes regardless of game

I didn't say i don't do smth bad with it, just that at that moment itself, because it's not the intention, i'm never aware of the bad thing in the 1st place
and /bag/ has golders
and golders only
gold players arent scary
bro reddit is just art spam worse than bagen🙏
I know, I'm just saying that people here have told you about how you should go about asking advice without misinforming other new players in the channel
the scary ones are the golders who think they "cleared endgame"
I haven't seen any people who actually "Play the game" on reddit
How about the whels with almost the full roster who slack ext anw

whales are whatever
pinned threads
alr let me check rq
surely it cant be that bad

causew has a reddit account so i assume he's singlehandedly carrying
arch 1 year ago still chill in hardcore being lv90
i didnt even consider myself a player

the goat 6_lasers is probably a bigger tryhard than any of you all
just daily chore 5min login

In all fairness, to most people, high difficulty raids is not "endgame", it's "optional flex content". HC/Ext is far enough as endgame for most players
so tutorial is endgame
step 254: upgrade ako heal to 7
step 255: fodder arius/shj blue tech notes for selector
step 256: clear up to floor 43 minimum in current frr
step 257: upgrade millennium basic from 1->4 (a, eimi if bg2, b, hibiki if followed reroll guide in ii, c, uasuna or chare if pulled, d, delay til step 271b)
where's the LB display 
☹️
Thank you, I appreciate clearing up the misunderstanding
Just remember that the definition gameplay hub uses is very far off from the average player 
I feel like you would clear insane on accident at some point . Like eventually mika pretty much one shots binah right
Discord is NOT full of tryhards
You just happen to be in the channel where people take this game relatively more seriously
I dunno man, 4 channels of tryhards is a lot
we are the very small minority of this server lol
And majority of people here are still slackers
The thing is they can but probably choose not to

lemme go to ba servers and open the gameplay channels ah yes so mald
yeah, gpd isn’t full of malders like it used to be
gpd is real channel other are mental illness
idk maybe there's just not a channel for ppl like the dude
You’re really overestimating the amount of people who actually visit these channels
Its just the same names
Compared to the overall player population
its nothing
Yeah, we couldn't even vote against emotes 
just visit bag for half a day

i mean they never said official BA discord server, maybe they're talking about the tryhard club discord servers where they gatekeep strats 
Why would I? There's no spicy art in bag
we're like the 10%? 20%? here
majority of BA players are slackers and you just gotta accept that, KR/TW players take it more seriously
tbh 90% of the top rankers i see on raid lbs are unknown people
either im not that social or whatever
gpd is just 25 of the same people visiting here every day and then randoms asking for gameplay help every once in awhile
the average raider clears hardcore
The real gatekeeping happens with cn rotations
median rather
90% of the top rankers i see on raid lbs are chinese
Most kr malders reveal their tech
not as big of a diff as I expected
Reminds me of how CN pros in GFL gatekept their strats till final day. Same shit, just different game
search by image
Gfl? Gfl2?
GFL
Idk about that then
gfl2 is not a game
Anyways
i never saw any cn strat
we talk a lot, they image spam 
gfl2 has no leaderboard.... gs isnt a real gamemode
i barely have enough time to cook my own rot idk how those people manage to even gatekeep strats
still "only" 3.5M images
wow yeah i just opened bag
Just don't post your clear videos
the image spam really just never ends
Cn rotations are often kept secret cause it takes a few people’s effort to make and they don’t want that easily replicated
surprisingly the ratio is smaller in the past month
#closing the gap
how do you even have a conversation in there
bag are just rly good at remembering who they're talking to ig
Global players dont need or want to self cook
saw 6 images in a row there yesterday
you dont want to theyre all chronically online asocial zoomers
so they're the same as us?
its different
i self cook slacc clears because i’m so slacc i can’t even be bothered to watch hw 
Hey balders
I mean, most people play BA to relax, and high difficulty raids is quite literally the opposite
Can't blame them
hi aisha
I'm just a balder at heart, so I naturally gravitate to it
Balder?
Hi geburah balder of tomorrow 
My falling hair literally clogs up my laptop vents, have to clear it once every few days 
oh right yuck, geb tomorrow
i used to incompetent mald a lot
ill start balding geburah in 68 years
krkg ext sub 3min clear poggies
i’ll finally do tor geb
even I myself said me slacc
cooking up teams when i returned to the game was actually pretty fun
before i got my own kisaki and was able to copy most of the top hw
im also balder
that was fun to watch you do
im pretty sure theres multiple groups of people who help each other cook up rots
but i cant prove cus ive seen none of them
like that dexter meme
Yea I found out a lot of tryhards in gacha games, they have private Discord servers for the tryhards
who knows what horror lies in the secret chinese private server
or there’s deniki who sits there for 10+ hours throwing himself at the boss
Where they theorycraft in those servers
i am pretty sure he didnt cook up his final rot himself lol
maybe those ppl are too much for me
he definitely didn’t
Like, I've been into a JP community server for sweats
his first clears he does tho
yea but the group of people behind those cooking
They have like, most of the top 50 tryhards of the game
are so unknown
Its pretty simple, do you ever see global peeps come up with their own rot that isnt a mirror/failure of the jp/cn homework?
And they have a pinned channel for every major content
it feels so alienated
Cooking is mostly on JP/CN/KR side
yeah
And when we talk bout rank 1 rots
this is why we need more acceleration 
Its often the work of 3-5 people
Like, imagine a BA tryhard server where there's a dedicated channel for each raid boss
And for each boss they have various clears/notes/docs
You mean threads
Hm, currently had 89k pyroxenes, will I be able to collect around 144k pyroxenes in total before the kei /b.arisu banner came out? Since I want to pull for (mg.suzumi + reisq, b.rio+himari, d.arisu+kei)
JP is months ahead of us though so i don't think it's fair to include it there
threads would be much better
holy f
It dont take much effort to set up something like that
id imagine that but none of them does that
Nah, they make full blown channels for each of them back then
its like an underground business or smth
Threads weren't around in 2021
discord threads suck
CN and KR however
yeah we global players just fucking suck
ive seen cn clears where they thank people for helping cooking rots by tagging them and thats all
Idk, the sort of fantasy you hold for those “tryhard clubs” are kinda too detatched
Like you realize
Arch is so fascinated by the exclusivity of the tryharding community in CN
They also just follow JP/CN/KR homework
I am in 2-3 of them 
Right
use pyroplanner (it usually a bit more than what's intercepted)
ive tried to join groups in bilibili to research more but those shit are paid like member exclusive chats
Not for BA exactly, but I just described it in BA terms to explain what the server is like
f2p gains from today until fes is about 46k
I was wondering, cause I dont see you in any of those na/asia clubs
TW already has server like that but we don’t really need specific channels to do that honestly
The tryhards pretty much shared their account between each other and one guy usually do the job for them all
rule of thumb is u get around 12k pyroxene a month playing somewhat actively
do you have link
Damn I am cutting close then, hopefully one of them come home before I need to pull for 400x
oh nvm tf
I'm casual in BA 
Only here for the lood and the cute
Well here’s the tricky part
It’s technically public but it’s not intended for tourist
Tldr
That is a low estimation as well, not counting any gifts they may or may not send out /etc
BA giga slacc
Yea same thing happened in other gacha games, half the server's accs are piloted by 1 player
anyway was just wondering who are these undercover people even jeez
You can prob find it if you join some TW BA server and look for the clubs
So it's like, 1 player taking half of top 20 
what even is considered casual tbf?
malding for hours is casual 
everything and nothing
7 hours is casual if you grind FPS games 
something then nothing
Our guy basically did 5200+ for 10 accounts in luna peroro
malding while u sleep is for balders fr!
You realize the piloting that you’re flaunting about is against tos right
casual to me is just, anything under 2 digit
me mega casual then
yet another proof
is first year player clearing easiest lunas in year 2026 more or less casual than 7 month sensei clearing easiest tor?
No one really cares, it’s a public secret already
me giga slacc f2p
Yep yep, exactly that kind of thing
Casual to me is login in, doing daily and chao
醒醒吧,你在官方群這麼囂張
i dont rly mind that ngl
Its not prohibited here cause its some secret
its how they cooked up the 52mil peroro the first place
Its prohibited because the rules state so
我又不是他們其中一個,我也管不了
I’m saying to not talk about it
The plot twist
Its not something to be proud of either
if macro talk isn’t allowed here, this definitely shouldn’t be either
Sure
The more gacha games you play, the more you realize it's just the same shit over and over again
Truly, gacha game communities never change
Oh yeah, definitely lol

anyway whatever the issue was how you never see competitve rot making
i mean, if you've been playing for 5 years and still go for the hardest content you prob arent a casual
You guys think too much bout all these things
what about other 20%
but what is casual and isnt is in the eye of the beholder
You're just not invited to it, you're not bald enough for them
giga kaiju klee level
you're responding to one 
ur still kaiju tho, deno
Oh! That's me!
lol ngl ive dreamt of being invited to one when i cleared peroro lun if it even exists
Bold of you to assume leviathans dont use any of the above
The hours of live theorycrafting, I've participated in it before
im pure f2p actually
It's actually a really fun process
never seen one
you never see it because english speakers just copy from bilibili or japanese yt
it’s hard being a f2p these days
Its usually an intermix of those
well one problem is i dont speak jp and another is im not in those communities either sadly
😔
yet here I am
it’s hard being a f2p these days
it’s hard being a f2p these days
it’s hard being a f2p these days
we gotta stick together
true true
my f2p powers will defeat shin godzilla
i tried researching bilibili but their chats are member exclusive
It is too time-consuming.
It is just exhausting.
Hearing people talk about balding here kinda hurts my head
I’m impressed how some of the top malders have the energy to cook rotations for every raid.
i doubt they cooked it themselves 100%
they must have other people helping to cook
and those people
thats whhy i never bald alwyas comfy
are the real ones im interested
it's iterative
Its not a problem for them to have multiple people working on one rotation
Its pretty cool actually
did shin retire yet, iirc he said he retire after pelolo
yea but who?

i never bald me always comfy
please
Various peeps
shin balded GA chesed
They actually get credited
kaijushin never stops balding
yea ive seen people credit others
Both JP/CN do so on twitter or bilibili
hes a true lizard
guess im too slacc
So what are you confused about
"thanks V for providing an eu server account"
You’re speaking like its some shady ass group cooking rotations up
rank 7 on chesed
well im also kinda jealous myself 
Yea it's iterative
illegal theorycraft
slacc for shin is mega bald by normie standard
It's like, first you find a 1 cost save, and then another 1 cost save, etc etc
I’m not gonna talk about their inner workings, in short its just people helping each other out
Its just a game
are private servers illegal
yes
..

uh ye obviously lmfao
are crit clients illegal??

that's just stat modifier
yea this is why i dont
damn chinese players

so yes
it’s actually vietnamese fb community that’s been going public about this
anw me wasting an hour in this channel is dumb, ig I'll be back to bunker for another month anw

damn southeast asia
ssgh whleeveon
The rats in cn at least try to hide it
And theres those who dont need such tricks
After all you still need to go through the math to see if some check points are doable
id prolly be more competitive if i was actually invited to one of those
but im not

well...
also envy them having friend groups that mald gameplay together
If you play on global servers you could easily join one of those if you actually are one of those
Easily
asia
I wonder whether they are also doing something similar to what I did in the previous red Set.
Bruh, then the entry to ARS or the like isnt that high
its very low
Ars is slacc club now
You know, I do consider the usual GPH/GPD people as fellow BA malders

they are too noob for me to consider joining
Fyi, even the cn clubs have very low req
well didnt expect clubs to have their own rot cookers id always thought its different people
Usually no reqs at all

I’m telling you
also lIke sh doesnt cook at all LOL
You have this weird fantasy about competitive clubs in BA
u dont even need to join club
im in meds and the only requirement is being in plat
Tbf, some prolly exist for CN KR JP
you dont even need to do tor as long as you get plat
Outside of that, nah
None of them cook except jp/cn/kr GIGA malders
im in some random club that has 2 active members and idc
and ur alr in bunker
i just borrow from joe and few other meds
im just like someone wondering how chocolates are made and wanna see the factory
So what Arch is basically saying is that
type shi
u dont cook rots
















