💬gameplay-discussion

[worthy charm]

dmichiru ez skip

wait for dizuna

[obsidian heath]

dmichiru must pull

[snow portal]

You're actually capping

[worldly sun]

Must skip

[snow portal]

Gotta be

[lone widget]

no way im gonna miss out on that ring

[worldly sun]

Just like imari

[lone widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1451892476934619228/Michiru_L2D_2025-12-20_02-58-46_Blue_Archive_BA_Stream_Clipchamp_B3.gif

[sleek flicker]

Is it ok to skip D.Michiru if you have Iwak?

[worldly sun]

Yes

[marble gust]

ngl screw devs for making dmichiru same healing as satsuko

[snow portal]

LOL

[echo oar]

roll dmichi in 20 and then wait till next run to nab both dizuna + dtsuku

[marble gust]

aside satsuko basic

[lone widget]

im rolling dmichi cuzz she hits all my spot

[obsidian heath]

I'm rolling mitcher because two fishes is better than one fish

[echo oar]

I still can't get over how she yells in her l2d

[worldly sun]

Ama cheating on wives with another new student smh

[echo oar]

it's so adorable

[snow portal]

Some will tell you yes, but truthfully you can if you don't care for PvP or having a secondary iwak, but healing. But I mean what's better than 1 iwak? Two iwaks

[lone widget]

the great one approves it so no worry

[worldly sun]

Does hina Mari aoba mean nothing to you

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/shiroko-iwak-seikanashi-blue-archive-blueaca-gif-12576967082864112841

[echo oar]

psmh including aoba in that

[lone widget]

they're welcoming on the other hand

[marble gust]

tf who are you not pulling

oh you already have idols

[snow portal]

LOL

[lone widget]

me know my wives

[obsidian heath]

not pulling fuyu unless she's needed for this binah

not pulling takane cuz she doa

[lone widget]

peak welfare

im waiting for rerun to ue50 her

[worldly sun]

Ama was an aoba for a while

[echo oar]

say it aint so

[lone widget]

https://tenor.com/view/utsumi-aoba-aoba-blue-archive-cafe-blue-archive-gif-13777753670313800492

[worldly sun]

He was straight aobing it

[lone widget]

when shupo rerun tho

probably 6x4x can take her to ue50

[simple igloo]

dmichiru gifs get more usage in 2 weeks than michiru entire existence

[worldly sun]

Who up aobing their spanna

[sleek flicker]

Unexpected but alright

[lone widget]

better yeh

[worldly sun]

[obsidian heath]

not sure about skipping ayuzu
pros: yuzu
cons: synergizes with units I don't like

[marble gust]

does mreisa cdmg buff only last for the current ex

[echo oar]

god she's so cute

[covert spoke]

third year btw

[worldly sun]

Yes

[simple igloo]

wah

[lone widget]

imma return when the event rerun

[simple igloo]

whu

dhina?

[marble gust]

jfc thats gonna be godly to time

[obsidian heath]

smika and mechalice

[worldly sun]

It’s once every 3

[simple igloo]

is smika that hag

[marble gust]

especially if it procs on the 2nd time

[lone widget]

aoba

[snow portal]

Somehow Kirara has proven to be actually really strong at taking down Tsubaki/Atsuko in S10 PvP, but most don't do it because that's a lot of materials for essentially a one time use unit

[covert spoke]

oh yeah

shes acc sub

hmmmm

[sleek flicker]

Sericute

[marble gust]

wtf finally kirara shining

[snow portal]

For 1 pvp season yes

[simple igloo]

next season kirara +900% cdmg buff watch my words

[obsidian heath]

so kirara is officially a tier above kirino and nodoka

[snow portal]

Ayy lmao

[simple igloo]

hey kirino still usable jfd unit!

i used her like 2 jfd ago

[snow portal]

Kirino actually had some tech in S6 PvP

[worldly sun]

First ex 2 stacks, second ex 4 stacks, third ex 5 stacks and 1 overwritten, fourth ex crit and build 2 stacks

[covert spoke]

i looked at kirino calcs for binah before noticing none of the specials can miss

unluck

100%->59% hit chance on him tho

[worldly sun]

So 4th ex then every 3

[copper crescent]

4 7 10

[worldly sun]

Chances are you will probably only have it happen once

[obsidian heath]

kirino will be meta once we get a boss with self-healing

[summer dew]

[covert spoke]

wait a minute

[copper crescent]

Doesn't tiph self heal

[worldly sun]

Tip

[obsidian heath]

well tiph only if you fuck up

[obsidian heath]

doesn't count

[marble gust]

if you let tiph self heal idk wtf ur doing

[candid gust]

i don't feel so good

[worldly sun]

To make your fuck up less bad

[covert spoke]

hare kirino counter yuuka chinatsu comp?

[candid gust]

i saw a bricc

nvm i won

gg free r1

[summer dew]

it's most likely me doing yellow tiph f74 without kisaki and rio if that happens

[marble gust]

well 2.4% heal instead of 4% if you miss a whole side

nozomithink

less groggy though

[obsidian heath]

she'd have to AA the heart during a laborer wave

which won't happen

[candid gust]

[marble gust]

oh thats her sub lol nvm

[worthy charm]

[summer dew]

oh yeah nope then

[candid gust]

That's 2 days in a row

wow

i love rng

[worthy charm]

Wtf azusa pvp

[candid gust]

card 1 is bricc btw

makes marina proc basic

[covert spoke]

just hit

or is she that fraud

[candid gust]

she is

check her accu

[covert spoke]

wtf

no i meant like

if she didnt kill

if possible all hit

[candid gust]

yes if she gets card 1 marina can evade and easily procs basic

[candid gust]

then you are fine

but that's rare as heck

[marble gust]

tf azusa

[covert spoke]

u know whats the worst

[candid gust]

Azusa only does 13 hits

[covert spoke]

when u iwak first card and it crits a weak marina

[candid gust]

With pvp debuff she does 26

[candid gust]

ik

insta kill

Got it once

[covert spoke]

weak meaning

ue40

so it insta procs

[candid gust]

ohhhhh

idk mine just killed

(nah not 100%)

[covert spoke]

need to start b150 shiroko i think...

[candid gust]

marina got 1% hp left

[echo oar]

ue40 iwak?

[covert spoke]

eventually

[candid gust]

ue30

still can kill

just stab and crit

[covert spoke]

i only just upg her hat

[candid gust]

Unless it's b150 iwak

No not even

just b25 25_25

and crit

[covert spoke]

think im 22 25 18 40

[candid gust]

That's enough stab alresdy

[candid gust]

Yea that's a kill with crit and hit

[covert spoke]

might not even be 22 might be 21

[snow portal]

Not sure why Triver didn't make it easier to see the first one, but based on them these are two tierlists evaluating units during early S10 (Left) and the revised list (Right)

Funny how much things shifted

LOL

[covert spoke]

the urge to selector saki...

[copper surge]

what the conrext os this list? pvp?

[snow portal]

Yes it's PvP

[marble gust]

guhh

is it time to ue60 tsubaki

[covert spoke]

whilst still missing qtomoe nyharuka kikyou..

[echo oar]

bneru

[marble gust]

prolly going like

eimi atsuko tsubaki kanoe

[simple igloo]

😭

[marble gust]

tank and distracts shanako

[simple igloo]

is this normal

[marble gust]

oh im prolly dropping tsubaki for shanako ig

[obsidian heath]

no mitcher?

[marble gust]

thats before her i think

dmich prolly S+

[supple heron]

ah yes... just saw battle eimi chibi, i like her reload animation... smack her railgun lol

[covert spoke]

was qmarina really only for that one week

[marble gust]

you probably get outhealed

[supple heron]

isnt qmarina mostly in yellow chok

[summer dew]

no no hear me out, we use tyuuka and kirino to tank binah and add chinatsu with bg2 to have eva boost every 40s

do not ask who is shredding def and doing dps

[covert spoke]

binah missiles and laser dont miss

[summer dew]

shh

[snow portal]

Made before she came out, but just assume S or higher. She had been making people dog walk competition
https://youtu.be/Bu8UP9oEvTU

[marble gust]

theres a few days where qmarina was used in next pvp

cus her dot doesnt miss

but idk what happened to that

[summer dew]

i know and this was a joke to begin with

[snow portal]

Like D.Michiru is literally Iwak but satsuko healing

Prime target for S10 to consolidate roles of iwak and satsuko into one

[west perch]

y'know, i forgot i made her ue30 at some point

[marble gust]

screw devs for making her satsuko heal tier

[snow portal]

Yeah so she is definitely highly used

[west perch]

also... I'm guessing this is how LB is being shown?

[snow portal]

You can combine with with Reisa

Or hibiki

Or saki

Or whatever you damn well please

She goes with everything

[obsidian heath]

the urge to ue saki only for it to contribute fkall on yesod

[marble gust]

the urge to not build my saki at all

[covert spoke]

alright we're cooking

[pliant bluff]

what is this

set

oh yeah

f124?

[west perch]

lolno

[snow portal]

S.Hanako still out here even in S10

[supple heron]

want subaru

[covert spoke]

close

[pliant bluff]

seems like it

[west perch]

that's definitely not 124 material

[pliant bluff]

[marble gust]

thats too less utility

[supple heron]

next season?
well she has nice aoe

[marble gust]

id give 109

[obsidian heath]

you know how competitive TCGs have card banlists
ba pvp would be much better if it had a unit banlist

[west perch]

im gonna say they're underlevelled so that's 74

[pliant bluff]

banpick?

[supple heron]

BA pvp is... sometime make u rage

[summer dew]

true, and also s10 favors eva anyway so getting ai rng to use fish on something like miyako is just wasted 3 cost

[pliant bluff]

well surely

[supple heron]

50/50 win

there time u get 5 lose

[pliant bluff]

hope that most of the ban wouldn't be hibiki/nagisa/shun

[snow portal]

Yeah you get a massive HP buff, but S.Hanako is still good chip damage that's cheap and most people have her built over Kirara who arguably can kill blue tanks better

[supple heron]

which kinda pissed u off

i have kirara

[snow portal]

Yup

[supple heron]

but mostly stuck inn3* for now

[snow portal]

Tsubaki back on top, I missed you

[supple heron]

gonna raise my bunny neru

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/tsubaki-kasuga-tsubaki-blue-archive-gif-26777309

[summer dew]

but honestly though, i expect to see both being used rather equally in the future. neither is going to replace either even in pvp

[snow portal]

Yeah it'll all depend on the gimmick

[summer dew]

gimmick and terrain i guess

[snow portal]

If it favors eva tanks - D.Michiru
If it favors def tanks - Iwak

[marble gust]

so eimi tsubaki atsuko shanako?

[snow portal]

You can swap for B.Neru if you run into Hibiki

So basically

[marble gust]

does eimi rly die even when hibiki

[snow portal]

No, but most wins are by time scam and HP

[supple heron]

depend if hibiki is doin constant 100k dmg

[snow portal]

Having Eimi against hibiki is more chip

[marble gust]

ig eimi will be constant low hp

[pliant bluff]

her ns hurts more than her ex

idk

[marble gust]

lmao

[supple heron]

coz that her only source of dmg

[summer dew]

isn't the win condition scammed by total hp percentage of whoever is on the field when timer runs out?

[supple heron]

bonus self heal

[snow portal]

Yeah

[covert spoke]

it worked

[supple heron]

fake

the equip is t3

[covert spoke]

yeah i didnt scroll

[pliant bluff]

yippe

[snow portal]

For example in this situation Triver won the match because total HP combined was higher

[summer dew]

and indeed total percentage remaining, not absolute values?

[supple heron]

man

[summer dew]

oh total hp combined?

[supple heron]

i dont have saki at ue30-40

[snow portal]

She is used a lot on def in S10

[marble gust]

time to hoard

[supple heron]

atsuko making sure u stay at top percentage

unless she got instant downed

[west perch]

hm, not sure if I like it covering the portraits like that

[obsidian heath]

% hp remaining of currently alive units
meaning it can be beneficial for someone to die rather than stay at 5% hp

[snow portal]

Luckily I made investments on these weird picks already

[copper surge]

A funny PvP interaction is shields counts as HP, so if someone like Yuuka use her EX and get shields, she may win vs a shiedless student.

Yuuka vs Yuuka fights on Iroha season often were decided by who EX before time out

[summer dew]

i now know where your cubes went

[snow portal]

Which is why B.Neru has been scamming hard lol

[snow portal]

I was already planning ahead

[novel timber]

ig i have to raise saki immediately

[summer dew]

i am 2 cubes away from being able to MM7M saki

[copper surge]

Sski has one of the 3 good things PvP unit can have, which is targeting

You can always do shenanigans with a unit that targets something in pvp

[summer dew]

14 from MMMM

[snow portal]

But my cube supply will soon be back to normal

[supple heron]

im... gonna wait abit b4 i decide to ligma bneru or saki to ue30-40

[summer dew]

nice kubes

[copper surge]

the other 2 good things is huge aoe and high damage with low cost

[snow portal]

Then I can oh idk spend em on Takane

[copper surge]

I been raising my BNeru on the excpert shop since forever

so she is Ue40 now

I'll prob at Ue40 tho. Ue50 will take too long

[covert spoke]

oh no

[snow portal]

Wow a lot of PvP meta next season uses cubes huh

[covert spoke]

bdsmshimiko is gonna need wolfseggs isnt she

[snow portal]

Perhaps

[copper surge]

if you play pvp a lot, a lot of pvp students are repeats

[covert spoke]

indeed

[obsidian heath]

utena shimiko feels like a haniwa user

[covert spoke]

please let me know when the next iroha season is

[snow portal]

They made Karin use 3 different T4s for each of her forms...

[copper surge]

Atsuko, Marina, Shun, Yuuka, Hibiki, Iori, Hoshino, Haruna and others, they are all common faces

[snow portal]

Uhhhh cope and hope it's S12

[supple heron]

dunno who be my single target backline healer

[summer dew]

mmh saki looking nice atk transfer stick tho even in the worst case her cc being useless on fight

[copper surge]

for next season, I am not even planning on kill, I plan to use Hibiki to just wear them down low enough to win timeout

prob the best damage uptime in pvp right now unless I am missing something

[supple heron]

provided she can hit eva tank alot

battle of timer run out and see who has the most hp percentage season

[copper surge]

Fever Time gives extra energy too, so just sandbag units are not good. I am not sold on Eimi yet

[covert spoke]

if u run mreisa and or tsubaki theres just a bunch of random repos shit that happens

if eimi gets in front of their yuuka/tsubaki answer

its just...

quite bad feeling

[summer dew]

roll b.eimi to snipe eimi before fever happens

[covert spoke]

t. s10 match watcher

[supple heron]

and then there bneru who charge in

[copper surge]

people may run Saki as a sure-fire counter to SHanako, so I dont thik SHanako def will be good because you;ll only defend once and lose to Saki

[supple heron]

and kill their dps

[covert spoke]

shun is rly good vs shanako

also against boshi

[copper surge]

Initial Shun review said she wont be good because you lose value of the 3 energy because everybody is so fat, but end up her basic pew pew is still cash

[supple heron]

but shun wont be able to kill any tank no

[covert spoke]

u dont care

[copper surge]

Next season, winning by time out is an option, you just need to do more dmg than the enemy

[summer dew]

this is actually not too far fetched but nah it won't happen and requires too much randomness to happen

[copper surge]

I just dont know the plan vs 4 tanks yet

[snow portal]

Out-heal them

[supple heron]

the only thing that can kill eimi is herself huh :v

but we wont be getting that anytime soon

[summer dew]

i mean those AAs hurt but full cycle takes 25 ish seconds from prone to basic hit

[supple heron]

so wonder oshigu a good choice

for extra aoe heal

[torn thorn]

Down to 1 digits

[summer spire]

Nice gems

[torn thorn]

It’s f2p…

[summer spire]

Lie

[torn thorn]

#💬gameplay-discussion message

It’s barely enough for my plans

[supple heron]

must get eimi armed

[summer spire]

I hope arona will not scam me on swimsuit hina

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[dim frigate]

I assume you're gonna punt the subaru banner if something crazy hits JP soon

[supple heron]

that make....
5 millenium girl total i mus pull

[torn thorn]

Idk what else can hit JP

[supple heron]

rio, himari, kei, arisu, a.eimi

[summer dew]

hold that thought unless waifu tho. there is no real use for her as of right now

[dim frigate]

in a month we might see the pandamonium limiteds

it would be fast but possible

[summer dew]

panda

[supple heron]

hmm msuzu or mreisa

[summer spire]

Both

[summer dew]

mreisa way more versatile

also not saying msuz is bad

[covert spoke]

mreisa might be the first unit that is lb75 prio

[obsidian heath]

@summer dew I spreaded misinformation about % hp
my pvp enjoyer friend misled me and I took him for granted

[summer dew]

oh

so it is absolute value?

[obsidian heath]

yea

[summer dew]

dang

[west perch]

it's kind of yes but no, no?

[summer dew]

well idk what kind of cope i find myself in next season anyway

so it kinda is whatever happens, happens

[west perch]

if there's 1 unit in the team at the start of combat, the % hp is of that 1 striker unit

but if there were 4 at the start & 3 others die, the last striker would only contribute 25% total at full HP

that's how solo eimi shenanigans can win

[hallow plank]

It used to be like that until they fixed the bug, IIRC.

[obsidian heath]

I thought they could have fixed it for s10 but I went back and watched s9 footage

[covert spoke]

well

its a 74 i suppose

[summer dew]

Yakumo huh

[covert spoke]

stat stick and crit basic

[sly ice]

Imagine using Kei to buff Umika and all her launchers

[covert spoke]

i did that with my local f2pbtw borrow on 49

[sly ice]

Goated

[covert spoke]

it makesit a bit harder to see though

[summer dew]

Anyone have ss of set battle filled with umika launchers?

I don't want a vid, just ss

[odd geyser]

[true scroll]

[wanton pilot]

[summer dew]

wait im unc what does 🪚 mean

[pliant bluff]

where is your crit

[true scroll]

hornbreak

[summer dew]

ohh

[wanton pilot]

I thought it means fresh wood

[summer dew]

🪵

[wanton pilot]

I got her to ue60 today

[grand anchor]

[wanton pilot]

B50 in 2 hours

[summer dew]

wait huh

you just stole one borrow from kris

[grand anchor]

2 days and my satsuki is also b50

[summer dew]

and that's me

it's not personal i just borrow the biggest and fattest satsuki

[wanton pilot]

[grand anchor]

🦖

[summer dew]

f2pvren

[wanton pilot]

[lilac solar]

UE60 hag

[grand anchor]

good

[wanton pilot]

[grand anchor]

WE love hags

[lilac solar]

real

wakamo my beloved

[summer dew]

i have a bit more to go, maybe on next rerun after 2 years

[wanton pilot]

Do you have that eri you and I sticker

[simple igloo]

intimidating

[grand anchor]

i don't think i've ever used eri stickers

[lilac solar]

dang my satsuki is built exactly like this

duplet

[summer dew]

i was working on my way to build her but mr. f2peno forbid me

[wanton pilot]

Can we forward messages from hh here

[grand anchor]

dunno

[thick mango]

why shouldnt you be able to

[summer dew]

you might get automodded if forwarded message contains embed links

i once got 5min ban because of that

[grand anchor]

2 days and i'll get everything done

[wanton pilot]

Guardi is mad if ppl join for emote

[thick mango]

[grand anchor]

oh this sticker

yes i used the selector for satsuki dupe

[wanton pilot]

No ligma?

We're getting eleph selectors soon

[grand anchor]

the last 100 elephs no

[wanton pilot]

Rip

[grand anchor]

not in the mood of spending 50+ euros worth of pulls for one dupe tbh

[thick mango]

avren will you mog him

[wanton pilot]

Would I win?

[thick mango]

you could

[grand anchor]

i just want r3 or 2, r1 i literally can't

[wanton pilot]

I need to go count how many satsuki exs you used in your run

[simple ravine]

trexren will be top 10

[wanton pilot]

And find something similar with 10.5 cost

[thick mango]

the one issue you would have is the boshi repo

thats right at 11

you would need to overcap a lil there

or move way further back with that one

then its fine with more distance maybe

[wanton pilot]

She reposes by running back to front?

[thick mango]

yea

[wanton pilot]

Yea maybe possible with more distance then

[lilac solar]

is kok selectorable yet

[grand anchor]

wasn't 10.5c enough for the super team strat?

[thick mango]

not for mine

[wanton pilot]

I selectored her a year ago

[grand anchor]

hm?

[lilac solar]

say less

[wanton pilot]

Secret 🇨🇳 strats

[grand anchor]

you're not using the latest jp r1?

[wanton pilot]

Unless that was kr idk

[summer dew]

damn these kaijus talking about some luna speedruns when my plan is to just get a clear on ins 👶

[west perch]

ikr

my plan is merely 4pan luna

[odd geyser]

another pb

[calm flicker]

Psure it’s 17% left right?

[odd geyser]

yea

[copper surge]

I want to see what JP will cook for Binah

[odd geyser]

the boss isn't overstaying this time

[calm flicker]

Same as the first WR

[odd geyser]

its pretty fun

[feral jetty]

yeah it's dying very fast right now actually

looks like they're using the magic on it now

[copper surge]

which boss?

[feral jetty]

world raid

[obsidian heath]

isn't binah starting this wednesday

they have to wrap this up now

[feral jetty]

yeah

[simple igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/crotch-groin-itchy-tickly-scratchy-gif-15188770

[calm flicker]

||I mean, JP senseis or who knows Japanese already knew what happened so ||

[feral jetty]

dajin's gonna be getting banned for posting world raid spoilers

[copper surge]

I dont see the point of doing those global bosses when everybody already know about Nexon Magic

[feral jetty]

getting currency and rewards?

[odd geyser]

we do it for the rewards

[calm flicker]

You can say this one as an eye for an eye

[odd geyser]

we f2p are here to stay

[lilac solar]

John Nexon is pleased

[copper surge]

Mido knew Hina would lose her spots as top DPS to ImbAris and left the game in silent protest. It all makes sense now.

[feral jetty]

there's even a farmable this time

[calm flicker]

Out of all WR bosses

[true scroll]

wait midogooni actually left

i thought he only abandoned his website

[copper surge]

Me: See a cool boss appear
ImbAris: NOPE, brrrrrrrrrrr
Boss: ded

[copper surge]

He abandoned his site?

[odd geyser]

there is no world raid boss in gpd

https://tenor.com/view/ba-sing-se-gif-20976912

[true scroll]

almost completely

[copper surge]

Well, probably a lot of work to maintain

[lilac solar]

oh nykayoko is selectorable too

decisions decisions

[feral jetty]

yeah she has been for a while

everyone up to 4th fest is selectorable

[lilac solar]

I don't usually whel 🦖

[feral jetty]

it's always up to the previous fest when we get a selector

like when we got the 2.5th fest selector

[copper surge]

I want to say "why NyKayoko when Kei exist" but if we think that way, we play with only fest and farmables and perhaps a couple of outliners like TYuuka and Kisaki

[feral jetty]

it was for everyone up to 2nd fest

for 5.5th fest it'll be for everyone up to 5th

[torn thorn]

Need selector

[marble gust]

ssora meta is weird im not rly into it

[torn thorn]

[marble gust]

also all battles feels like fury of set

aa gameplay everywhere

[lilac solar]

perhaps I will kok it

[torn thorn]

surely the scamtix will be stonks next fest

[feral jetty]

anyways yeah kokona has been selectorable since 2.5 and nykayo since 3.5

[true scroll]

[odd geyser]

[copper surge]

I am surprised BA gameplay still hold after 5 years. Gacha grew weird as they get old. We may be getting there but we are NOT there at least

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/violence-cat-speed-cat-slap-gif-1134650139805887121

[true scroll]

well, it has changed

for both better

and worse

[copper surge]

i feel a lot of gacha devs plan the game to work for, say, 3 years, and after 3 years powercreep breaks the game, hard

[polar orbit]

i think it holds cause our powercreep is slow so the meta doesn't shift every patch

yeah exactly

[true scroll]

i wouldn't call ba powercreep slow

[odd geyser]

kei exists but nykayoko still sees use

[true scroll]

we're getting new support meta every fest for a year now

[copper surge]

you have not seen good powercreep

[marble gust]

good part is high content doesnt reward as much

[hallow plank]

Kanon used to place B. Kazusa's and S. Kikyou's furniture together.
And S. Hiyori's and Hoshino's furniture together.
Kanon is a good sensei, isn't she?

[true scroll]

but yeah it could be worse

[marble gust]

bad part is you get shit like asia server slacc

[true scroll]

looking at you honkai slop rail

[copper surge]

Id say, the closest of true powercreep we got in BA been Kisaki, a unit used on almost every raid

[polar orbit]

yeah not sure how to explain it. it's like it doesn't feel as oppressive as in other games

[lilac grove]

issue with other powercreep is that if you don't pull, you can't use old units to clear reliably
in BA if they worked once before, they'll always work

[copper surge]

but some other gachas, you have 6 kisakis and they are used on every raid

[odd geyser]

I have Kazusa's furniture near SKikyou so she can look disgusted at her

[polar orbit]

one day BA will have 6 kisakis

literally

[copper crescent]

was i bricking myself

[marble gust]

hsr changes all their enemies gimmicks per patch that makes previous patches units unusable

[copper surge]

one day, yes. All roads lead to a 6-fest meta

[pure vessel]

did you not do deca d this whole time lol

[copper crescent]

no i did c

[pure vessel]

borrow aaris solos

each beamu does 50m lmao

[true scroll]

i will personally shame everyone who doesn't do d on deca world raids once they come to global

[marble gust]

im struggling on decag c

[copper crescent]

holy ***

arch go see dajin vid

in jpd

[marble gust]

im lvl 40 man

i saw

[copper crescent]

oh

[marble gust]

only got snagi

[copper surge]

isnt D the easiest? or hardest?

[feral jetty]

The year is 20XX, there are 8 Kisakis... the closest thing we have to an AA Kisaki is still just MSuzumi.

[pure vessel]

bro

[copper crescent]

d = tor

[marble gust]

d is torment

[copper crescent]

a = normal

[pure vessel]

you don't need the full 1 groggy exodia

[copper surge]

BA has the whole color wheel thing, so it will take a while for every raid to be 6 fest

[pure vessel]

you can do 3 groggy pretty easily

[marble gust]

yea im leaving with like 6mil left lol
also didnt read mechanics

[copper crescent]

use hod skill

[pure vessel]

borrow aaris shanako and a healer

[copper surge]

but once a fest hits a niche, it keeps on that niche forever

[pure vessel]

use hod skill before the summon lasers

[obsidian heath]

he should genuinely just shut the fuck up

[lilac solar]

actually wait should I selector skanna instead

hmm

[true scroll]

better hold it

[lilac grove]

why even watch this lmao

[copper crescent]

whatever attack blocked by your hod fills groggy bar by a ton

[marble gust]

wtf selector skanna but skipping fuyu

[obsidian heath]

archangel made me curious

[true scroll]

if you don't need any of its contents right there and right now

[odd geyser]

[copper crescent]

I didn't even she does that much LOL

[feral jetty]

don't worry it's fine, no guitarrock viewer is doing anything above f49 anyway

[odd geyser]

I don't even need to use that kether before that EX

[pure vessel]

all of the prophet summon attacks that deca does instantly max out her groggy when blocked

and groggy is like x10 damage or something

[copper crescent]

yeah

[lilac solar]

skanna better on gebby

[marble gust]

im borrowing wheljin aaris and 3 charges deal like 9mil

[odd geyser]

skikyou was kinda pog b/c I'm pretty sure she counts

[marble gust]

with snagi

[copper surge]

I think Guitar Rock fills a niche, but I dread the idea of a player who find his entry-level advice useful.

I dont think he is wrong as much as he says obvious stuff

Unless he is telling people to, I dont know, pull New Rio

[feral jetty]

he's telling people to pull beimi for red set

[torn thorn]

[feral jetty]

she's red armor

[torn thorn]

🧱 🪨

[marble gust]

i mean he always adds like "wait till the future for confirmation" so like

[marble gust]

technically isnt spreading misinfo

[pure vessel]

lmao

[copper surge]

Surely, you jest

[marble gust]

but still doesnt check it himself too

[feral jetty]

see this

[copper surge]

The only logic I see is
Does F49 (no color atk)
BEimi survives
BEimi meta for Red Set

[marble gust]

f49 meta

[obsidian heath]

the fact that he refers to set as "final restriction" makes me think he battled with the mode once or twice in his career

[copper surge]

Because if you ever touched higher floors you instantly see the issue, like why we dont use yellow armor on Binah. It's burned on our minds (with laser)

[marble gust]

||imagine the meta actually changes later and beimi is actually worth bringing to babysit||

[copper crescent]

aka wakamo

[copper surge]

to be fair, I called it FRR for a long time (I never recall if its RFF or FRR)

[obsidian heath]

i mean there are 3 final restriction bosses

only one of them favors AA dealers

[marble gust]

pov beimi meta in yellow chok

gr the prophet

anyway prolly skipping byuzu unless nexon does a funi

[simple ravine]

people who take 🎸 🧱 as a credible source deserve to get bricked

[marble gust]

also valiant also released their pull prios

havent watched though

[copper surge]

But giving advice on BA is hard
If you are a waifu chaser, you pull for waifu
If you are casual, you pull for obvious meta
If you are competitive, you pull for weird niche picks
And new players need way too much stuff to list.

Waifu chasers dont need advice, and competitive know their stuff better than youtubers so you really only have casuals to advice

I'd say people who need more advice are new players who don't know the value of student like Kisaki and IMari yet

[grand anchor]

this guy can't be serious lmao

[marble gust]

ben yoshimi

[hallow plank]

All caps + exclamation mark title is immediate blacklist.
"Language mirrors cognition."

[copper crescent]

pretty much

you don't need to advertise as hard if whatever you're selling is already good

[obsidian heath]

That means I have to start typing like this in order for Kanon to respect me.

[marble gust]

[fallen scroll]

i do think b.eimi is the rawest definition of "potential girl"

[covert spoke]

no

[fallen scroll]

she gets massive buffs in exchange for losing out on atk speed buffs

[hallow plank]

I already respect you as a fellow Set malder!

[marble gust]

i remember f116 set was min maxxing hell

[covert spoke]

shes just a kaiten unit

[fallen scroll]

red armor tho

[marble gust]

now f124 is fuck it whatever

[copper surge]

both Rio and BEimi being red / red is sus

[feral jetty]

beimi knows what content she's made for (kaiten)

[copper crescent]

brio is red/blue

[feral jetty]

that's already better than shinata

[copper crescent]

not red/red

[covert spoke]

and possible hiero babysit

[marble gust]

lol

[copper surge]

really? ahh, than I dont know

[obsidian heath]

beimi is the ritsu user for kaiten

[copper crescent]

np

[feral jetty]

yeah wario is hiero unit

beimi is kaiten unit

both urban

[copper crescent]

yeah

[fallen scroll]

wario

[feral jetty]

though for some reason her B mood is outdoor and not indoor

[copper surge]

I gave up on the non-EX meta. If a unit can't be buffed by Kisaki (not because Kisaki, mind you) I am extremely skeptical

[marble gust]

anything but real dhina counter

[covert spoke]

sweatyrio can be used p2 kaiten im sure

[obsidian heath]

I think set is the reason

[feral jetty]

not that it matters since indoor is the dhina terrain anyway

[copper crescent]

brio can be used on kaiten too

[obsidian heath]

I'm a believer in the wario over snono idea

[snow portal]

Would you agree with this statement?

[copper crescent]

non-ex meta is harder to design than ex meta I think

[covert spoke]

the dhina counter is all red striker focused lunatics being urban

[feral jetty]

i'm not

unless you have 2 rios and 2 imaris

[obsidian heath]

?

[copper surge]

I am a sucker for Ui-coded units

[covert spoke]

wario 100% is S tier hiero

[marble gust]

prolly cus of baris and smika bias

[feral jetty]

snono's best team has much less overlap with toki's best team

[copper crescent]

byuzu isn't even meta

[obsidian heath]

I'm talking about set

[marble gust]

im rly not considering byuzu

[odd valve]

bruh how do I save this

[feral jetty]

ohhhh

i'm stupid as hell

[odd valve]

should i skip anyone

like

im

desperate

[feral jetty]

yeah i can see that

[pure vessel]

byuzu kit seems useful but I'm not sure if she'll ever get used on speedruns

from what I can tell snagi is still top tier

[copper crescent]

ur pulling too much man

[odd valve]

but they all

"meta"

[snow portal]

Welp there goes Toki's time in the sun as top Urban Hiero pick in anything lower than Lunatic whenever that drops

[pure vessel]

so she's relegated to lunatic unit

[copper surge]

fest is always priority
You can skip Reisa and Michiru. I wont skip IMari tho. Imari is too good.

[marble gust]

yuzu?

[copper crescent]

think less about meta

[covert spoke]

skip eimi yuzu

[summer dew]

byuzu is role compression. not your first pick but not useless either

[copper crescent]

think more about who u can't live without

we call those

"human rights"

[covert spoke]

toki is also S tier urban hiero

[odd valve]

i dont have nyfuuka to make up for that

i just have

like

[marble gust]

ngl im just gonna wait till an urban rer dps

[marble gust]

thats absolutely not how it works

[feral jetty]

yeah we can't really say if wario's gonna be better than toki on torment as of now

[snow portal]

Correct, but I suspect she get phased out for the more conventional wario

[odd valve]

wa

[copper crescent]

yeah ur looking at this so weirdly to me

[marble gust]

byuzu does not replace or do whatever nyfuuka does

[copper crescent]

yeah

[copper surge]

Yuzu is more like Ui than NyFuuka. NyFuuka comps are usually spammy, you can't do a spammy comp with Yuzu

[feral jetty]

you probably use more slots for def down on wario

[odd valve]

enlighten me

[marble gust]

shes a worse ui in many cases

[hallow plank]

Papa, mama~

[odd valve]

ohhh

[feral jetty]

whereas you can focus more on hyperbuffs on toki who has def ignore

[covert spoke]

well not on lun which is what matters

[marble gust]

have you tried cycling seia/ui

worse than that if not baris/smika

[odd valve]

yep tried both

[feral jetty]

so i don't think it's that obvious who the winner's gonna be

[copper surge]

do you have oShig or S Shiroko?

[covert spoke]

i think it is

[snow portal]

But that's what I said from the start

[odd valve]

yes...?

so we good without them

[covert spoke]

the winner will be whichever has the rio imari team

[odd valve]

dam

[feral jetty]

i'm talking about torment

[covert spoke]

and toki functions the best without that team

[copper crescent]

u joke but she's currently going to be my selector if I don't spook her by end of selector

[feral jetty]

yes

[covert spoke]

however toki still outperforms rio

on that team

[odd geyser]

im not even joking

[covert spoke]

EXCEPT

[odd geyser]

she saved goz for me on both accounts

[covert spoke]

for max crit max stab handgun

so enjoy that

[copper crescent]

damn

[marble gust]

tomoe goes hard i didnt even upgrade her

[snow portal]

I won't

[copper surge]

than you already have a unit similar to MReisa and D Michiru. Would you like another?

[feral jetty]

joke?

[copper crescent]

idk

[marble gust]

i think dmichiru heal is too good to call her a second sshiroko

[feral jetty]

qtomoe have or die for luna binah

[copper crescent]

a year ago I wouldn't have thought qtomoe = good

[odd geyser]

and you know what? maybe I'll use her in geb next!

[odd valve]

idk about M.Reisa tho cuz she is significantly better

[copper crescent]

u see how we see byuzu rn

[covert spoke]

a year ago i'd have thought that qtomoe f2p

[copper crescent]

that's how i saw qtomoe

[covert spoke]

it seems i was right

[fallen scroll]

an UE50 B.eimi can do up to 130k dps to kaiten mech if shes buffed with ritsu and m.suzumi

not bad tbf

[marble gust]

she isnt that much better but like

[feral jetty]

i mean i think byuzu's probably good

[snow portal]

I still need to give her UE someday

[marble gust]

oshig is prolly enough if ur like a torment clearer

mreisa is just more utility

[copper crescent]

byuzu is so hard to say

[fallen scroll]

shes just hella specialized and prolly would require her to be paired up with cost-expensive students

[copper crescent]

idk what I'd do with her kit

[covert spoke]

hes actually right though

byuzu human rights

[feral jetty]

i can see how it'd be always be nice to be able to just throw her on aaris/smika team

[covert spoke]

its just that its for lunatic not for his hardcore/ext audience

[pure vessel]

byuzu human rights for that bodysuit

[copper crescent]

it is but other than that idk

[odd geyser]

#💬gameplay-discussion message

[covert spoke]

su haa su haa

[marble gust]

look at these whales pulling byuzu

[odd geyser]

I could see the future!

[marble gust]

[copper crescent]

wtf weeby

[covert spoke]

i swear i asked about kokona qtomoe geb last year

[odd valve]

wait so our fes is earlier than JP's fes?

[feral jetty]

if she can repos tank to laser safe spot that's gonna be even more insane

[polar orbit]

gj team

[fallen scroll]

Q.tomoe is actually huge for gebby

[odd valve]

global

imeant

[odd geyser]

[copper crescent]

i went on jp having qtomoe and saw opponent qtomoe in pvp

[odd valve]

or sth idk

[copper crescent]

and knew what i had to do

[fallen scroll]

the only problem is that she needs a striker healer to be effective at her job

[odd valve]

is B.Hoshi and S.Shiroko just a normal limited banner?

[feral jetty]

i can see there being uses for byuzu's atk buff essentially not having a time limit from what i can see

[odd valve]

or im trippin

[odd geyser]

sfubuki pvp?

[marble gust]

tf bhosh is fes

[copper crescent]

i don't have sfood sadly

[marble gust]

sshiroko perma

[covert spoke]

maybe he means stacked shiroko

[obsidian heath]

they probably meant T.Shiroko

[copper crescent]

i was just having fun with the repos

[odd valve]

then what is this

i

im confused

recollect?

[copper crescent]

yes

[fallen scroll]

yeah

[copper crescent]

it's retired fest units banner

[marble gust]

other than dmichiru ye

[fallen scroll]

no rate ups tho

u gotta get em raw

[odd valve]

any possible spook of some kind

or

[marble gust]

no increased 3* rates

[covert spoke]

u choose the rate up but its not doubled fest rates

[odd valve]

just that

[marble gust]

its a normal banner

[odd valve]

normal limited

[covert spoke]

u can still spook the other retired fests

[copper crescent]

think of it like a limited banner

[fallen scroll]

also the banner lasts for 7 days

[odd valve]

anything like this happened before?

[copper surge]

Once a fest goes into the recollect banner, can we still spook her on fest?

[copper crescent]

no

[fallen scroll]

(at the cost of them never ever being spooks in fest banners afterward)

[marble gust]

recollection is like archived so no

[copper crescent]

she gets removed from the new fest spook list

[odd valve]

ehh Mika tho...

idk

[marble gust]

no

[copper crescent]

so on 5.0 fest, u can't spook mika, shoshino, or wakamo anymore

[copper surge]

I;ll never get Ue60 Wakamo now...

[odd valve]

she kinda got outplayed by U.Neru

[feral jetty]

you will

(from expert permits)

[odd valve]

dam

[fallen scroll]

dudes gonna take 50 years or so

[feral jetty]

no she didn't

[odd valve]

but i don't have both so idk

[copper crescent]

u gotta learn about moods man

[feral jetty]

mika's SS mood terrain is uneru's D mood terrain

uneru's SS mood terrain is mika's D mood terrain

[marble gust]

tf why are you pulling all these if you dont even have the basic units

[fallen scroll]

[copper surge]

is the fest recollection banner before, or after, Aris fest?

[covert spoke]

mika still very good on urban hod

[odd valve]

[copper crescent]

before

[covert spoke]

she is still mika

[copper surge]

dang

[copper crescent]

during second week of dmichiru event i think

[marble gust]

like the week before kisaki

[copper crescent]

oh ***

[marble gust]

which is before fes

[copper crescent]

nerf reminded me

[marble gust]

back to back to baxk

[copper surge]

Who more is on the week of the recolllection banner?

[copper crescent]

i forgot to add recollection banner to roadmap

reeeee

[marble gust]

their spark is separate

[covert spoke]

the ninjas are still on it but its separate and recrutis dont carry over

[marble gust]

but dmichiru

[copper surge]

DAMN YOU NEXOn

[covert spoke]

also ramen event

[copper surge]

I guess I cant pull on Dress and convert the ticket to the recollection

[marble gust]

bro thinks he could cheese the system

[covert spoke]

where hiyori is the premier bonus giver

then shes farmablea fter

[marble gust]

[copper surge]

It worked for DHina

[copper crescent]

was dmich banner and recollect in the same 2 weeks

[marble gust]

huh with who

oh the free 100?

[covert spoke]

makoto?

dako?

[marble gust]

i remember the free 100 with iroha

[copper surge]

I got both fest during Rio / Neru, and used the spark on DHina

[marble gust]

oh lol

[covert spoke]

oh but thats normal

[copper surge]

Do recollection banner uses normal tickets or that green ticket?

[marble gust]

wait no what

[covert spoke]

pyrox

[marble gust]

dhina isnt running on rio fes

[copper surge]

Are you sure?

[marble gust]

its shanako

[feral jetty]

wasn't it smika fest where we had dhina?

[obsidian heath]

yes

[copper surge]

Right, SMika, someobyd was right

[covert spoke]

yes because i sparked her for +200

[marble gust]

anyway its all fes so yea they share

[copper surge]

This, I pulled both SMika and SNagisa, spark on DHina

[copper crescent]

gacha simulator link: https://bluearchive.page/vue/GachaSimulator?gachaTime=1781697600000

[marble gust]

but theres other permas running so ig

[marble gust]

normal

[odd valve]

so then the next fes is still B.Aris right?

[marble gust]

actually wait the color is different so like

[copper crescent]

yes

[copper surge]

normal ticket but separate spark... lame.

[marble gust]

im not sure if it even uses ur 10 pull tix lmfao

[odd valve]

cool

[copper crescent]

what the gacha sim has different banner order than ingame

[marble gust]

psmh

[odd valve]

wow wasup S.Nagisa

[marble gust]

also again fuck nexon for skipping tiphy twice

like why man

they better run purple and yellow back to back

[summer kite]

ez

[copper surge]

its simulator bro, does it even counts?

[copper crescent]

bro

look at their msg before that

[odd valve]

I swear Kaho is haunting me man

[marble gust]

dw theyre using their luck on a mere simulator

[odd valve]

my Kaho is UE30 with the pulls

like

why

[marble gust]

just get them in the real fes

(trust

[obsidian heath]

had to show off the shiny new students

[copper crescent]

else global won't pull

they need the shilling

[odd geyser]

here's my real pyro count chat

[marble gust]

else theyre gonna riot like uneru

[copper crescent]

so f2p

[copper surge]

Being a new player on fes is both amazing anbd terrible. Its nice almost anything is an upgrade, but than you realize even with all the spook you are bricc

[copper crescent]

why spend for pyro when u already have 10m pyros

[odd valve]

1 yellow even in the simulation

like

idk

yeah i aint pulling shi no more

[copper crescent]

it accurately reflects the game's chance

[feral jetty]

4 rate up in 200 ez game

surely it'll be like that in the real game :clueless:

[copper crescent]

miyo 🛐

my jp is more sacc than i thought

[copper surge]

Mr Dajin, I dont feel so good

[simple ravine]

wasting luck in the simulator

[gleaming wren]

I wouldn't doubt it tbh

hello haiker

hello gpd

[simple ravine]

hello

[copper crescent]

hi

[odd valve]

i will take that

aight 100 pulls for B.Aris

big W

[copper crescent]

it does feel like jp 5.0 fest rates is better somewhat

[odd valve]

3 more banners

[copper surge]

Before Dajin turned into "F2P" I always though of him as an average spender, but now I dont even want to know how much he spends. I fear the truth.

[west perch]

I still sacc on simulator, as per usual

[copper crescent]

but maybe that's bc im rerolling

[simple ravine]

i barely got purples even in simulator

how to reset my luck

[copper surge]

Write a whel name on the envelope, this tricks Arona in giving you the good stuff because she thinks you are a paying customer

[simple ravine]

will sign all my envelopes with "dajin"

[copper surge]

This is the way

[olive scaffold]

yu

you here

again

[simple ravine]

[charred crystal]

ok yall

enough with sim pulls lol

[simple ravine]

hello youre here too

[obsidian heath]

enough with sim pulls
time for the real deal

[ashen turret]

@west perch @odd valve@odd geyser Please refrain from spamming gacha simulator pulls, thanks.

[copper surge]

#💬gameplay-discussion message Proof of Dajin Trick working

[obsidian heath]

post your fuyu pulls

[ashen turret]

post them in #🏆flex-archive

[copper surge]

But I used Oom name for Seia, because bird. You need to know your lore.

[west perch]

glad I get called out for posting 1

[simple igloo]

woah modunny

hello

[west perch]

wait, is this a softmod?

[odd valve]

i finished

[west perch]

No way, it's a soft mod

[copper crescent]

mod in training

[odd valve]

thanks for the reminder

[torn thorn]

[copper surge]

I should be a mod, to have a cool name

[ashen turret]

just click this button

[copper surge]

No more hot takes, they would be OFFICIAL takes

[pale fractal]

112 done

[west perch]

I mean if everyone were to start posting 1 image of the simulator it'd be spamming too ig

can't afford to max out my broko rn

[copper surge]

"Acktshually, Kotori do good DPS" - This message been approved by a mod

The perks of having a trash waifu is no hopes of her ever being fest.

[simple igloo]

is set technically 4:25s long

[copper crescent]

4:30

[simple igloo]

die animation very long

[feral jetty]

no

timer stops on death animation

[simple igloo]

wat

oh

[pure vessel]

it's kind of funky

[copper crescent]

when hp reaches 0, timer ends