#💬gameplay-discussion
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ooo i see now
Either the wording is misleading or they somehow implemented it as Thermite Pink’s basic aura.
so you're saying the game places down thermite pink, applies the normal buffs, and then thermite pink triggers normal reisa to activate her basic buff

are we saying thermite pink and reisa are different
if so, that's whack
i thought they were the same
i mean have you ever seen them in the same room together
When consuming 5 stacks, mreisa tank originally doesn't have the cdmg aura, but the basic gave the tank its cdmg aura a short delay after summoning
Reisa's probably animation stalled while you're using her EX initially for the summon.
When that animation ends, her basic activation condition of being at 5 stacks can be resolved and procs.
right but it doesnt proc via thermite pink, else it would conflict with skikyou, so even though it's worded to come from thermite pink, it comes from mreisa instead
And bc the basic gave the tank its cdmg aura, it went into the basic aura slot instead of the ex aura slot
So to prove this we gotta use someone
on a separate note, why tf are byuzu and beimi still not in schaledb
i dont think anyone else has this interaction 
But then idk who even does what reisa does
wait are there any video clears of set? we can just watch the video probably
i am going to crash out because of kokona's basic rng
Umm, then it is probably implemented as Thermite Pink’s or M. Reisa’s basic aura which copies the coordinates of the passive aura.
Assuming Crit DMG is aura instead of targeted.
i mean dajin tested it already
bro run kaede
why
yes
peavbrick
It is aura #💬gameplay-discussion message
until kokona's basic rng comes in
im sensing masochism
Gpd talking about aura
I see. Thanks for the info.
are you saying we have no aura 
no we are discussing aura, aura discussion
we got aura
do geb luna for 1000000000+ aura
kokona heal is 2 cost so just use that
nice ragebait
I CAN'T GET IT IN TIME
I HAVE THE OBELISK TOO
It doesn’t really matter whose aura.
What matters for the stacking rule is whether it is from basic or passive.
Passive auras of the same stat should always overwrite one another.

0.0
ok that one was a clutch kanon, it's rng based
i play 3 heal so that not my problem 
Well, IIRC there used to be NY Fuuka sub skill quirk, so the code must’ve been spaghetti anyway.
pls pls pls
since the crit buff comes to thermite pink via mreisa basic, my best guess is the code thinks that it's a basic aura, which would stack with skikyou enh aura
me f2pbtw
ohhhhh my bnatsu is M777
definitely spaghetti code moment yeah
i f2p too
its listed in basic so its basic buff 
it just says "enhances next passive skill" but you should ignore that
just keep your sanity
Free dmg for us so whatevrr
until they patch it 
will try later tbh
it works
i don't rely on hw
or team used
Did we just
Find a bug for them
you can't just tell peavine to not mald
One possibility is that they don’t explicitly hardcode the stacking channel, but instead relying on which skill grants the effect.
Then it becomes: basic skill + aura.
Whether this is a bug or feature, it is much favourable to us, though.
‼️💢
agree
If it favorable it feature
😟 😟
What happened?
If it not favorable it is bug
@candid gust Do not mald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spLA3bpAfyI
Listen no one had this clip uploaded and I felt it was my duty to inform the world
so uhhh kokona needs to proc the right time to save nykayoko during the chokepoint
like twice

i thought that for nexon it was "if not favorable it's feature, if favorable it's bug"
Yeah, otherwise managing overlapping buffs is a huge mental burden.
When I didn’t have S. Shiroko, I had to manage three overlapping ATK buffs from S. Eimi, Kotama, and Himari. 
f106 worth a gift box
😟
do you have himari ?
Is the 4th challenge possible without s Hanako
don't tell me you wanna do akomari
maybe with a giga invested ichika
just look at how long they've been trying to avoid fixing special covers on srkr

Wtf
Tweak your heal plan a bit or just mald?
My F111 red also required Kokona to proc one of her basic skill not too early, not too late, in order to rescue B. Yoshimi. 
idk i might try to swap kuroko and nyk's os
Pos
Is there a welfare student this event
No
No
No
huh
Or simply UE40 your B. Natsu.
this selfcook sucks
no kanon
the problem is nyk herself
The rest are fine

I mean yea
Should I roll miyo 
I sad now
4* hanako 😟
sheeeshhhh

the wiki crushed my dreams
not even ragebait
My NY Kayoko also 3-star.
She survived until the spear.
Can you spare a Kokona EX on NY Kayoko?
uh yes but i can't save the obelisk fast enough
maybe i will figure different rotation
whatever
imma sleep

why hanako
bNUTsu
close enough
Me thrifty.
but if u mess up her timing she dies
i only use her for chokmah
i messed up my ue40 timing and needed to kok her
it's fine dw nyk will die before her
the only books i have are from the current frr 😟
i didn't notice them...
so much craft material
damn you must have a jurassic park
😟
yes
aoe heal
clearing 99 in 2024 was always rex
oh wtf
only whels do 97 
i only missed 97 the first time because i was sizunalet

I use mine pretty actively 
4B credits

when you start getting all your farmables up to ue60
-6m on each is genuine pain

i usually had lack of credits but now im getting too many and i cant spend them enough
id stay at around 250M when rich, now almost at 500M and im still spending raising units + shop
with ue60s
koyuki birthday
gremlin
one luna where I need to raise a couple extra teams' worth of main dealers and I'm immediately down 200m credits
Ako L2D today? 
i cant get ue60s reliably cuz i dont have the elephs for that, so thats out of the question 
most i can do is skills and levels
damn, did you have all the mats ready already?
I'm generally pretty good on mats
kind of short on millenium and trinity rn but I generally get enough raid coins to clean out everything I want from shop + have a bunch of selectors
The L2D roll of the day is brought to you by the letter S for Saya! 🐀
i wonder what the "send thanks" will do after it unlocks on the web event
dw
miyo will break down your door and take your body as thanks
you will see the credit starve once you do lunatic
oh my

akira
i prep them before the raid comes usually
it's lun yea
oh my
it's lun
3 kanoes and akira
but so far havent been able to clear any luna 
my dream
1/5 bnnuy
pulling after the first SR or SSR is whel
i actually wanted to try goz luna but i was busy that week
idk if i wanna do lun binah
sounds cancer
they really should rework binah completely
trash raid
cuz they do
check schaledb
kekw
no i mean all diffs
yeah like that
oh yea they revamped
with a new way of doing the boss
they reworked binah on jp
with the world raid
where
it's still statistically unlikely after the first card is revealed to be SR/SSR for the other cards to be SR/SSR, as only one card is guaranteed to be of that rarity
check schaledb
check on schaledb
it's confirmed
wtf
no more stab cancer
when was this
like 2 weeks ago now?

at the start of the deca world raid
oh i missed binah boss (arrived too late) maybe thats why i didnt notice it
tanks
tanks
will be there any boshitno
happy birthday koyuki

Lesson elephs
what does stabily rate do
bruh
i never saw that before
dmg varience
just take mika as example
holy luck
come to think of it
whats the gamer word for "reworked" in jp gaming?
you do the same thing twice and it do different damage because of stability
how do they decide which weekends to run double exp and which weekends to... not
nowadays
it used to be they only did double xp weekends during fes
upgraded
i feel like it's every month atp lmao
Like 2 weekends a month rn?
No scam today
it's weirdly inconsistent
Welcome to the family
where the fack are my goddam purple cards
damage stability is a hidden stat that determines your output damage. basically characters dont deal 100% of their dmg, more like 80%-100% (or even lower than 80% depending on how low their Stability stat is). its completely RNG and its another layer to the RNG layers of dmg 
60 flips no purple
Just like in Pokémon!
when games only have a few buttons for gameplay they tend to add lots of rng to make it less easy (or take more tries) to complete. i get the reasoning but RNG is so shit, especially for competitive stuff
Two words
PKMN VGC 
I know all too well about damn damage rolls
Wow ur so smart, have a cookie 🍪
🍪
vgc stand for video game championships
dkayoko in binah

stupid unit
atleast every pokemon has the same damage roll chances unlike ba
the byuzu/eimi banner is 2 weeks?
Fair point, but it still sucks

dont google corphish aqua jet vs onix in sun little cup calcs
corpish is goated
the only character that avoids Stability is D.hina (during EX), thats why you'll see the same numbers popping up when you deal multiple crits/non-crits and why her dmg is so insane, its always at 100% @shy oasis
and the only character atm with a pure def piercing stat

fest privilege moment
pure def piercing?
barely anyone notices
def piercing without needng ue40
like DEF penetration from Satsuki?
She has 357 def piercing
or ex
azure can you read
I just like posting kufufu
yea its pretty powerful but its not only D.hina that has it
kufufu
It's literally it
Pina (guide) also has Def pen
it's only dhina that has it without needing a skill for it ffs
that's what we've been talking about since the beginning
it's pure stat
dhina just has DEF PIERCING STRAIGHT UP IN HER STATS
😭
guys stop screaming
it's not in her skills or anything


💔
and she's the only one that has that
and there's no reason for her having it other than stupid fest privilege
so agitated for nothing, im trynna understand what you mean
ngl i found it by accident
Maybe John Nexon thought it would be funny
when checking stats
"pure stat" is a weird way to call it, got me confused
Is she really the only student with built in Def Piercing
yes
Yeah?
Bet you can't find 2nd one
Atm

yeah without ue2* trait
Am asking cos I genuinely dunno lmao
maki has it too guys
dhina's def piercing is stupid because it's not taking up any skill slots
like she has an actual UE40 other than def piercing
while someone like nutsuki has def piercing yes
but she needs an entire skill slot for it
mind blowing fact
Fest priv 
cuz shes only reliant on it
this is why dhina hits so hard in greg

cuz she has that damn def piercing
no stab, def pen, and buffs to crit rate, acc, atk + explosive effectiveness
all you need is to buff Crit dmg and rest of crit rate
It's so funny that devs randomly decided "sure Hina, here, take this Def Piercing"
Go all in
And they thought people didn't notice

(well most of them didn't)
It's like nerfing 3324 in silent
not to mention all her skills are just perma buffs to herself
basic skill is Enhanced Skill #2
yeah she's not a fair unit
10 whole millions dmg
red was already dead enough thanks to shoshi
then they went ahead and released dhina
just wait till next fest when we get dhina but urban
red dead so now we have green
who up givin they track mari healing lb
omg me
I mean, we got the D mood Urban btw for Hina Dress
is this why she has tons of red effectiveness to prevent even more braindead abuse from dhina?
who
the AA ain't a joke
The only reason Toki wins on Tor Hiero is because of the high Def
dhina but with cdmg instead of red eff
dhina was built for kaiten anyways

she was built for kaiten too
why taunt immunity needed
because of her CC immunity skill
cuz it's for kaiten too!

Because not trying to lose firing mode in Kaiten
yes too
Aru (Girlboss) and then she has 100% Crit chance, 100% stab, and has a huge circle around her target which counts all entities inside and multiplies the total damage by the amount of enemies found to that 1 target. so you have 5 peroros caught in the area, it deals 5x damage to the 1 you chose.
just to lose to dhina
D.Hina was never meant to be a fair unit, just a strong one
the only time ive seen her range end was on Tower defense event of DJ Saori
the range is 10m but the actual shot range is 20
Double the range

Reminds me of Haruna in that JFD we just had
yeah thats why auto spam wont work when ur at like 15m away
centroid targeting doesnt understand it
It's out of target for auto
ye
but for manual the shot can reach
ye
ye
that cheese strat you have to manual shot
cuz the auto range can't reach cheese
but the shot can

but that requires me to play the game!
Hmmmm
Me thinks I will have a chance to use Fuyu before Miyo
Probably will build her first
use miyo now in set
i want miyo
Also that Hiero GA
i want mayo
I think Fuyu is used in the blue team there
bonk
purple too
😟
oh wait, that blue is purple
Not like I have a choice until A.Aris is released to save me from the hell that is Maldris

huh i'm in progress again 
when is maris ever gonna be used again
should i make an alt idk
I have no idea
Looking at A.Aris numbers even just 2 teams is a lot of dps
Use your own and a borrow
luna srkr
2x mkaris
on an 850?
no ex buff for maris
Thank goodness I don't care for Lunatic
it's gonna be balanced around that
are u sure you're going to use maris with no kisaki/sseia/nyk and probably unusable daru
i'm curious, have you tried or cleared any tho? i mean surely you have the roster but that's only half of it
Kurokage pre-nerf

i see
that shattered your soul and "never again" ig 
nah im joking but luna is still like a top 0.1~3% privilege depending on raid
me going to go on 4 lunatics in a row or die trying 
So now I just plan to wait until they actually fix those lunatic raids to not be ass, or release units that trivialize it. Not like I need it for plat anyways
geb luna itself ain't ass though
comfy slacc 
just raise your own gpina/satsuki
if it gets peroro treatment then might need every single body in luna but outside that i think baris just sweep (so maris got benched)

and it's magically a whole lot easier
raise student for exactly one raid kinda
tho
the luna is somehow doable without your own so having one is gonna be an easy win
me looking at my about-to-be ue60 pnoa:
subaru ritsu/ochin
||uneru||
wakamo kuroko acari
izuna dmichiru dtsukuyo
think all these teams outperform maris
subaru 
in context of all premium buffers given to mkaris teams
boshi might just single bounce
i am thinking its more like, if shiro is similar to p1 hod
in case the real danger is p2 kuro crows
cuz surely its not just hp and number bloat
that would be too cool and exclusive
it would be too cool lmao
lemme remember some stuff
outside of greg and peroro, did any lun get specific adjustment?
most of them did
goz got camera buff and cards
I have 1 slot left for you NA folk
#1459364729356161057 message
geb also exactly the same
geb debut'd as a lunatic
goz camera change was for the whole diff but i forgot what difference they have between lower and lun

there was no max difficulty tor geb
greg got yellow wave and white wave change, and p3 guaranteed crit
dhina for geb 
Scamming the noobs
Last minute of luna goz is him spamming ATG.
Before that, his coins also either give cost recovery or dmg up
but yeah if that were to be the case then lun srkr can be just hp padding to oblivion
is it different on lower diff?
i forgot
Yep
its so peak 
last minute of goz was just normal
oh
in lower diff
ok then
yeah so goz greg and peroro that has lunatic exclusive change that isnt just stats
and thx to binah now bhimari on higher prio
well ig always has been
cost reco moment
more like finally a not-ass yellow eff buff moment
JP Silver-Kun twitter post 3 seconds after the lunatic p3 is announced:
ということは、「シロとクロ」と戦うにはルナティック難易度にしないといけないんですか?そうしないと、「シロ」と「クロ」の順番にしか戦えないんですね…そういうことなんですね…...
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we got slapped with sui repo into seia basic
seia atleast works nicely due to how her kits are with the cost regen , cost reduction and having shield
4 cost sui just feels miserable

they introduce it to lunatic, and then when slumpia world raid comes they will have a toned down version for everyone to experience
nobody wants slumpia world raid unless repos is removed
i must have brain damage i know, but i somehow like repos mechanics
dw I know a very good way to change your mind
dont say kotori
do goz with only kotori 

never again
try mimori repos
I'm glad EXT goz could miss

i opten for mimori ffs, no shield was better than kotori
i did
wow.....
oh, deniki got the 2nd clear on 124
his was slightly more f2p, with only ue50 msuzumi & skikyou!
https://fxtwitter.com/d3n1k1/status/2022355971553792174
Those are some crazy numbers
Tf do you mean Bike is doing 40m lmao
16.6m on Kei
And 4m on Akari NY
Holy buff heaven lmao
bike shiroko basic strong
broko is one of the strongest AAs afaik
That's still a shit ton of dmg on top of her utility
I guess all the buffs do help her a lot
Gyatt 
sorry, it's happening already #💬gameplay-discussion message
Straight up a matter of "can I Atk Down every bloody attack on ATG3"
Turns out the answer is yes
current set for 112 also uses her 
but yeah it's like we discussed earlier
yea I was hoping she would have been forced out by f124
the crazy ppl will do anything to make one thing easier
Turns out you can do magic with what, 70% Atk Down?
if broko was forced out then kei wouldn't have been possible tbh
even if it means complicating stuff
Suzumi Magic also probably dies without Bike
yea I didn't wanna see kei in f124 either lol
They were already struggling to keep her barely alive in 120
didn't we see chihiro on red? lol
Ye Chihiro 120 on Red and Suzumi Magic still barely alive
yea but that was interesting
124 is another +4k Atk
kei being used over nyk in set is just blatant powercreep
So if Bike doesn't work, then both Kei and Suzumi Magic will get kicked out
But yea, I guess this means Kayoko NY is fully in retirement home now
if they ever gonna rerun goz or peroro it would be so funny
here i was thinking i'd have to start permitting stsurugi for goz rerun
tho being real most player still gonna refer to nykayoko just so that they can brainoff set

kei shouldnt be too hard to use tho
her survivalbility is the issue
so it's more of needing to aware when to use broko
ur top raider for sure gonna use her
but the average player unlikely to even know how set works
the timing to use broko itself isnt hard but most player are slacker
Nah, average skill level of players is lower than you think
sleep
What you feel isn't hard is hard for a lot of people
true that
I can't help but rmbr this guy when picturing the average casual now
#💬gameplay-discussion message
Eh, that's pretty much all CC that play BA
Like, pretty much all of them are casual, and at best are into the characters and story
None of them know anything about high difficulty content
ah yes the chesed speedrun disconnect strats
I am still not defeating Blue Set f60 I perhaps just have to wait until level 90
ur comp?
Oooh, it's 40m...
I wonder if it's still doable with just Kuroko + Akari NY + Himari + Ako + healer lmao
Or you probably need more than that for F60
SHoshino, Kuroko, Kei, NYKayoko, THasumi, Idol Mari, Ako, Kotama, Hanako, Dress Michiru
Not having Red Orb buff is ass tho
what lvl u are atm?
Ooooh this might be rough
Students all at level 70
Cos you need Hasumi Track to live to pop orb
hmm i guess me being nykayolet is a little less brick than i originally thought after fes
My account level is 82
Honestly, Mari Idol is prolly hard to keep alive
don't worry they're rerunning nyk after fest!
yippee!
Set already has 13k attack on F60, not very trivial I guess
All the students except Kuroko and SHoshino retreated very early
oh
Prolly a gear/level issue
I have borrow UE60 Kuroko
How early we talking btw? Before 3:00 timer? Or somewhere deeper into the fight
I slightly forget I think was when the lightning attacks appeared
very specific
All the attacks are lightning 
the lightning attack from the lightning elemental 
Was most likely a minute into the fight since was time over
Oh nvm that's also lightning
Did you spam too much 
tho yeah it doesnt look pleasant
yeah
Perhaps could MKArisu be an orb breaker
Actually, from this damage range, can roughly tell this works on F60
F60 has 40m HP 👀
She will be harder to keep alive than Hasumi Track purely because of armor type
Assuming similar levels and gear
MKArisu have higher tier gears and skill levels more
Unless she currently has double the HP of Hasumi Track, she will die faster
i think the root issue might be your fight getting prolonged since your buffers arent probably maxed in skills etc. so you hit atg2+ and start dying?
I have not yet got spook SShiroko
ok hmmmm
If you die within 1 minute, then I doubt you're getting anywhere without more levels/gear
If you're dying with 1 minute remaining, then there might be things we can do
Ye healer strength is also another factor here
I am more likely able to recreate than you tbh
I have UE30 T4 EX3 Hanae and 3* T3 EX1 Serina
But I'm not doing it today
who are the 4 students that got new equipament for buff in this last update ? - Koyuki, Momoi, Haruna track and who is the 4th ?

f60 was 6,412,996 hp before time over
huh
Oh you went all the way to the end
I thought you died in first minute
If you meant students dying at 1:00 timer (1 minute remaining)
Then yea it's either gear/level issue or healer issue
Or you're not cycling fast enough to get back to Hanako quickly to heal
Did I not see a Hanako there
oh
wait
hanako is therer
mb
weirdge
how the hell did i miss that jfc
what is ur hanako investment atm?
umika
thanks
Me looking at Set casually doing 31384 resist dmg 
3/1/1/1
I could upgrade necklace to T7
oh
3*?
oh
Or 2*
joever
Wait 3111 should be 3* at least
But that is a very oof Hanako
Actually
I have something similar
surely he is not that broke...
I can actually go try lmao, I have UE30 T4 necklace 3444
I could perhaps upgrade until skills 3/7/7/7
EX3 is very cope, not sure if it's enough
You might have to cycle back to Hanako fast
3*
That is very rough
And no bg
can u get her bond gear?
.
oh god

i dont have any healer
that i could use to replicate that
I could just wait to defeat them in the rerun
I recommend also investing in an AoE healer in general
Having 1 AoE HoT on hand ready will be hella useful
I am rolling MReisa in the rerun I build one before that?
thats in like 8 months

If you wanna go the next 8 months without an AoE healer, sure
dont you have tmari
also want one for yesod
she doesnt have koharu?
She is aoe heal?
Koharu enough for Insane? Actually ye, probably enough what am I saying
she doesnt have shanako?
yes but doesnt heal herself

Is investing Track Mari worth the Trinity notes and BD
i think hanako more worth
I might be able to replicate what she is running
but like
i am just thinking if she would be best option for yesod p2
or p1 even on insane
for someone such as nextgearvii
pretty sure p2 heal check is not that hard no?
p1 could work yeah
assuming like
but surely we won't be seeing yesod for a while...
Casual 435 Def stat transfer
https://x.com/Shachiku0515/status/2022224383184617478
b150 sroko stat transfer
435 is so much lmao
Ya 4 bag meta is real
mreisa uses bag? as if she couldn't be more broken
Ye she does
that's the main reason she can survive in kkg
dang
they role compressed harder than anyone has ever role compressed before
MReisa is attack buffer I remember that
and healer
Heal and buffer in one slot?
yes
her heal is as strong if not stronger than oshigure
not stronger
The more I see about mreisa and her usage the more I
about skipping 
this is why you don't skip
The only alternative is skipping someone equally useful, i.e. imari or tyuuka tho
she still has an awkward duration of 22s that is mitigated by costing less
Same reason why people run Nagi Swimsuit in Chok and Tiph, bag is OP
you could make the case to skip tyuuka if you already have kisaki
skip tyuuka and suffer in goz srkr tiph
skip mreisa and suffer everywhere else
Isn't Kaede more comfy for Tiph
Thats kind of where im at right now; contemplating skipping tyuuka but... we'll see ig 
Plus
tbf in most case im not sure if this will be a big disadvantage
My tracksuit bloomers wife has carried me far beyond my wildest dreams
And msuzumi is on her banner, whereas tyuuka is the only one I need from her banner
most people cycling seems to be fine with her
10/10 would highly recommend Yuuka Track
oh, no. I just am used to csena/oshig duration so 
as someone who had both since their debuts I get caught off-guard when she expires earlier than my internal timer
Personally my plan is
M.Reisa > I.Mari > Pre Fest / Fest > B.Yuzu
wao skipping cfuuka
It will happen 
skipping pj koyuki?
Striker Fuuka
oh???
Spilt what?
Whaaaa
wait she's feeling better?
Ohhhh
huge
Well, that says everything
but yeah we need to wait for pajama rerun first
people has been coping for pj koyuki
let's see if it will be granted
i have to skip both cause i need dress ako 😔
as much as I want to believe you, I don't wanna get my hopes up for nothing
nah pkoyuki skip
ong...
pj is probably early march
I skip PKoyuki
how dare u skipping pj nihaha
I sacc'd on pj banner too hard last time that ue50 pnoa barely hurt my eligma
When is code box rerun I might consider saccing I mean rolling that banner
Almost halfway there















