#💬gameplay-discussion
round kayak
hallow plank
Serina is a summon.
old rose
is there video of f124 blue set
odd geyser
calm flicker
<:KokonaF2P:1373687294703439912>
lone widget
covert spoke
simple ravine
kokona 
ancient star
It’s Dress Kokona wdym?
X
stuck valley
whats the benefit of Concentrated command then?
covert spoke
extra rewards
ancient star
You get some extra Pyros when you clear the puzzle in x amount of moves
copper crescent
30x5x30 + 30x3x80 = 4500 + 7200 = 11,700
ancient star
You can ignore Concentrated until max level and you have better teams / units that can reliably clear on Auto / Skip function 
stuck valley
You can ignore Concentrated until max level and you have better teams / units th...
I skip some trash mob and my whole second unit died 
I dont like it
maybe I should do that instead
ancient star
Then that's how you know you should just be doing Simple Strategy
copper crescent
It's for when you can do it 3* with skip
Instead of spending 5 minutes per stage, u skip and spend 30s
stuck valley
but that means you have to like- start doing Mission all over again when you’re lv90
copper crescent
Yes
young lotus
Simple command to rush to higher stages for better gears/cafe upgrades > come back and do concentrated for pyrox achievements when you can field multiple teams
copper crescent
If you want the extra pyrox
young lotus
stuck valley
I’ve been wasting my time trying to full clear those with concentrated commands then 
copper crescent
Basically simple cmd first run is like 1 minute
ancient star
but that means you have to like- start doing Mission all over again when you’re ...
Do you want to spend 30 minutes clearing Concentrated (since you have to do it Manually) or spend 1 minute clearing Simple and then 5 minutes once you are max level / can reliably Skip battles?
copper crescent
concentrated cmd when ur op and skipping is 30s
ancient star
Nah, not 30seconds, since you still need to move around units and do the Boss battle
copper crescent
Ur spending like 5 minutes vs 1m 30s doing conc manually vs simple cmd and doing conc with skips
ancient star
Maybe 3 minutes at least
copper crescent
Ohhh i forgot I can't skip boss battle
ancient star
Ur spending like 5 minutes vs 1m 30s doing conc manually vs simple cmd and doing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPo6LKw8LxM See? 5 minutes
stuck valley
cant wait for kei chan in July 😭
marble gust
newbies doesnt know the pain of no simple strat no skip battles
copper crescent
Wtf it's 5 mins with skips
stuck valley
Wtf it's 5 mins with skips
I spent like 30 min in 16-3 hard at lv 70
ancient star
Again, you have to move around units + also watch the guide (so 5mins + whatever time you spend watching what to do), but it's still much faster than doing it manually / no skip
stuck valley
so just simple strat until I’m OP enough for conc
midnight river
I spent like 30 min in 16-3 hard at lv 70 <:ShunnySob:1315437590647668767>
Just come back to it 
midnight river
so just simple strat until I’m OP enough for conc
Yes
midnight river
You simply don’t have enough invested students
marble gust
finally found a way to record ba in 2k 180fps
candid gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPo6LKw8LxM See? 5 minutes
back in the day moment
midnight river
finally found a way to record ba in 2k 180fps
Why? lol
stuck valley
finally found a way to record ba in 2k 180fps
mfw high bitrate video that can’t even load on web 😭 🥀
or compressed to 60fps 1080p youtube
copper crescent
Ig I did spread misinfo 😟
copper crescent
Okay so uh 5 minutes for conc skip and another 5 minutes to do it without skip
stuck valley
ancient star
back in the day moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsU0DOy9rE - Here's an actual back in the day moment, 13:38 minutes to clear one Mission 
midnight river
Cafe chibis
I thought the game ran max 144 fps 
obsidian heath
I thought the game ran max 60 fps
copper crescent
So like 7 minutes to do simple and come back to conc skip vs 14 mins to do conc without skip
candid gust
I thought the game ran max 60 fps
120 exists but idk
snow portal
Triple team areas with blue armor enemies without shanako to carry you
Maaaaan just use Chise
midnight river
I thought it was 60 phone
144 pc max
copper crescent
Iroha
marble gust
i thought it runs on unlimited
candid gust
no
ancient star
So like 7 minutes to do simple and come back to conc skip vs 14 mins to do conc ...
Yeah, there's literally no benefit in doing Concentrated early on
candid gust
marble gust
candid gust
Yeah, there's literally no benefit in doing Concentrated early on
yes there is benefit
pyroxs
proven dove
Apparently beimi has good numbers as a red dps :3 but she's slow to deal damage
stuck valley
50 pyrox woa
candid gust
copper crescent
I mean if u rly rly rly need the pyrox then sure
candid gust
you get achievements
snow portal
Apparently beimi has good numbers as a red dps :3 but she's slow to deal damage
It's fine the enemy will be distracted by her huge gun
ancient star
yes there is benefit
Unless you are pulling every single banner, sure, but the pyros there are not needed immediately
candid gust
Unless you are pulling every single banner, sure, but the pyros there are not ne...
Yea newbies are so happy
me midbies
copper crescent
It's just in terms of time spent you'd spend half as much time doing simple + conc with skip
candid gust
stuck valley
when are you considered midbies
copper crescent
Ins clearer
marble gust
tor speedrunners
stuck valley
what does that mean
candid gust
only 1 lun and tons of tor
copper crescent
U can clear at least 3 insane raids is when I consider starting to be midgame
candid gust
I am oldbie i think
830 days
and tons of tor
wow tor are so easy nowadays
back then it was an achievement
now? uhm it is but less
stuck valley
tor?
guess I’m newbie I don’t understand batshit
copper crescent
Clearing half of all torment means you're endgame
copper crescent
That's good too
stuck valley
I started like December 23rd last year
copper crescent
Clearing all luna means ur whel
copper crescent
I see
stuck valley
Spent all pyrox in fest banner after that because I didn’t know
then I started saving!
for keichan maybe
daring coral
Clearing half of all torment means you're endgame
All tor*
copper crescent
Aw
daring coral
it’s free enough anyway
copper crescent
Fine
sleek flicker
Hmm, Decent enough for Geburah
copper crescent
Im just thinking bc some tors never run often enough
ancient star
Hmm, Decent enough for Geburah
Ehhh probably no
copper crescent
And the dude prob can clear all tors too but no proof bc 1-2 raids didn't happen
daring coral
Besides ancient enough sensei can clear torment with their willpower alone
gleaming wren
god hiromi is so hot
copper crescent
Causew doing tor without any gacha characters
stuck valley
final rewards for Total assault and grand assault are not so different in each ranks though
gleaming wren
can't wait to pull for her
stuck valley
I’m gold everytime
copper crescent
All causew had was like ako and kotama
stuck valley
whatever that is
copper crescent
And sshiz too ig
daring coral
final rewards for Total assault and grand assault are not so different in each r...
I just do torment cuz more token =
More tech notes = more gift fodders
And it’s not like 3 digit is hard in Asia
copper crescent
Tor is kinda free tbh
gleaming wren
Not farmable
pliant bluff
Even ako is not farmable
daring coral
By today power level, yeah tor is very doable
gleaming wren
ako is archive banner
copper crescent
Ako isn't farmable but archived
pliant bluff
Still not that farmable
gleaming wren
torment won't be truly free until lvl95 cap
ancient star
Hmm, Decent enough for Geburah
Okay, just checked, she is literally useless with those investments (assuming you are thinking of doing Insane)
Ice Pillar has 242,000 HP and that Maki, if all stars line up, is doing a maximum of 179,865 damage, so she can never one shot the pillar which is the intended use of C.Maki... one shot the pillar without having to wait out the shield
round kayak
Okay, just checked, she is literally useless with those investments (assuming yo...
can I see the full calcs just curious
ancient star
can I see the full calcs just curious
Not sure if I'm missing some buff or anything but yeah:
round kayak
interesting this is 3* right?
ancient star
Hmm, Decent enough for Geburah
Literally just copied everything here
4*, Hat 6, Watch 3
west perch
Not sure if I'm missing some buff or anything but yeah:
maxed EX btw
west perch
huh, did you not turn on basic?
west perch
did you add in geb's dmg buff? I'm getting different figures 
summer dew
yeah
ancient star
Ohhhhhhhhh
young lotus
summer dew
ancient star
young lotus
Gwebby buff
untold tusk
CMaki is defense ignore special dps?
Or was that a different special dps?
round kayak
defense ignore is boshi and bkarin
round kayak
def ignore is gpina, satsuki, & shinata
isnt that def pierce?
summer dew
same outcome
west perch
ah I just mixed them together since they're similar
ancient star
Minimum 200,645
Maximum 247,070
So honestly, still not good
untold tusk
Shield ignore perhaps is good
summer dew
def pierce ignores xxx value from armor
west perch
one's flat values, the other is % value
summer dew
so enemy with 700 armor getting attacked by boshi vs satsuki, satsuki ignores more armor
ancient star
Shield ignore perhaps is good
It's not overall, it's just niche for Geburah
summer dew
also why percentage def shred is so important in geb fight, because the nonlinearity of DR that def gives
further down you shred the def the more effective satsuki def pierce becomes
pliant kelp
OMG WHAT THE FUCK
untold tusk
Geburah Insane 1pan or 2pan more efficient?
west perch
in what way
round kayak
its less bald if you multipan
ancient star
Geburah Insane 1pan or 2pan more efficient?
Geburah is not Chesed
untold tusk
I know some raids are more efficient as 2pan
ancient star
You have idols anyway, so you shouldn't have issues with Geburah if you actually invest in Idols
simple igloo
OMG WHAT THE FUCK
woah 799m
untold tusk
I guess 2pan Insane Geburah most likely not enough for rank gold
ancient star
She, but yeah probably not going to be Gold
ancient star
Wut what?
opaque dagger
Is it though
opaque dagger
Last I checked JP gold cutoff is high Ext
snow portal
Wut what? <:ReisaDerp:1440245878341374043>
Bro's a girl?
opaque dagger
For most raids
torn thorn
If u hav idols surely it should be easy 1pan lol
ancient star
Bro's a girl?
I mean, look at her profile...
opaque dagger
You open people's profiles?
snow portal
I mean, look at her profile...
Damn, welp this is why reading is important
torn thorn
Who tf reads
ancient star
Sometimes incidentally, others because I don't want to misgender someone or because I want to check / make sure which server they are
ancient star
It's not that deep seriously...
untold tusk
I have the possibility of 1panning Insane I just do not have good icebreakers
ancient star
I have the possibility of 1panning Insane I just do not have good icebreakers
Don't you have Shiroko Swimsuit?
untold tusk
Don't you have Shiroko Swimsuit?
I do not yet have
ancient star
You can just use Satsuki borrow as ice breaker anyway
west perch
kei survives thanks to ue HP damn
untold tusk
Satsuki borrow is not for damaging Geburah?
I guess I just have to find rotation for destroying ice and when to dps
summer spire
I miss only one important student to do waka boat
round kayak
Satsuki borrow is not for damaging Geburah?
I guess I just have to find rotation...
do you not have a single icebreaker at all?
copper crescent
I went from seeing f124 set being impossible and thinking maybe one day they'll release enough units to make it possible and now it happened
wide basin
Good to have but not necessary
summer spire
No u dont?
Makes ur life easier tho
ancient star
Satsuki borrow is not for damaging Geburah?
I guess I just have to find rotation...
I don't think you understand what Geburah is about
wide basin
P1 luna is literally free
copper crescent
Sshiroko for ice break satsuki for dps
untold tusk
do you not have a single icebreaker at all?
I do not think I have any
round kayak
I do not think I have any
iwak, cmaki, sfubuki, hibiki ?
there's myuzu but thats kinda cope
untold tusk
iwak, cmaki, sfubuki, hibiki ?
I am close soon to unlocking Hibiki
hallow plank
It's not overall, it's just niche for Geburah
Surely it is good in PvP!
ancient star
Even if you don't have Icebreaker, Satsuki 3 cost is still a viable option for ice breaker
round kayak
~~Surely it is good in PvP!~~
you gave me an idea to try
summer spire
~~Surely it is good in PvP!~~
Just put all on green with this luck
summer dew
Nezo what are you cooking
indoors mostly
wide basin
Wtf u mikalet
round kayak
ah reminds me
untold tusk
Why you rolling Mika?
round kayak
yes
covert spoke
nezo notoriously lacking in basic human rights
gleaming wren
is it me or do the BA characters blink
round kayak
cause I dont have her duh
summer dew
is it me or do the BA characters blink
chare:
round kayak
nezo notoriously lacking in basic human rights
I blame fucking hiero for being a piece of sht last 3.5 fest
covert spoke
is it me or do the BA characters blink
they breathe too
round kayak
gleaming wren
no but like
untold tusk
Mika not even used too often nowadays
gleaming wren
The portraits
summer dew
what have you been smoking
wide basin
Mika not even used too often nowadays
Sybau
gleaming wren
i swear i saw miyo blinking
round kayak
Mika not even used too often nowadays
ehh I wouldnt say that when she's needed at the time I need her
round kayak
binah luna....
wide basin
- hod
ancient star
Mika not even used too often nowadays
Mika can be used literally in everything but Red content...
wide basin
Also that
covert spoke
i swear i saw miyo blinking
one time yakumo winked at me on the screen and said "nobody will ever believe you"
untold tusk
I am not risking the miss chance
summer dew
also having a fes dps unit of your own allows you to cook more comps when you are locked for "mika borrow"
covert spoke
I am not risking the miss chance
dont fall the the meme, she only has 5% miss chance against very few bosses
it is just noticeable when she does
ancient star
And who cares about miss chance when her damage is insanely high?
wide basin
dont fall the the meme, she only has 5% miss chance against very few bosses
U mean 14% on chesed
covert spoke
||yes i know its more than 5%||
gleaming wren
ill stare at this until she blinks again
summer dew
chesed is chesed
round kayak
I am not risking the miss chance
only super pro max balders care about that gea....
worthy charm
untold tusk
Well guess I will use Mika borrow for easier gold rank though I do not think I will gold Chesed TA I do not have good aoe
hallow plank
you gave me an idea to try <:KoyukiStare:1149185819920322661>
S. Fubuki probably not that strong this season.
Last season I managed to claim R1 with her.
marble gust
summer dew
most raid bosses have either 1 or 100 evasion and from native yellow armors only chesed has 200
round kayak
I think I experienced uneru having a few misses when i was balding 27m
truly the bald problems amirite
summer dew
let her have em
untold tusk
Who to use as aoe in Chesed I know the clears I watched used SHanako
wide basin
Makoto nonomi momoi
covert spoke
cherino
gleaming wren
Yuzu has 3 arms
no but the poor thing has an arm with twice the length of the second one
hallow plank
I think I experienced uneru having a few misses when i was balding 27m
Surely you need a high accuracy, high stability yellow DPS built-in card redraw for outdoor Chesed! 
(Shameless propaganda)
summer dew
and where's the third
ancient star
Who to use as aoe in Chesed I know the clears I watched used SHanako
You should focus on building for JP next Raid, which is Binah
wide basin
no but the poor thing has an arm with twice the length of the second one
They just drop an update 200mb
Yuzu weights 200mb
covert spoke
isnt that her removed glove
covert spoke
i know brother
gleaming wren
idk how im gonna be able to wait
untold tusk
I built already Maki to skills M/M/7/7 in preparation for Binah
marble gust
smh just delete X for a week
ancient star
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1201921121373655081/1471782041346375702/t...
The more I look at it, the more cursed it gets
obsidian heath
Surely you need a high accuracy, high stability yellow DPS built-in card redraw ...
surely they'll give open core guaranteed crit damage received and high evasion
copper surge
I decided to pull for Coffee Yuzu. That's all.
summer dew
wait wait wait she has two right hands
covert spoke
I built already Maki to skills M/M/7/7 in preparation for Binah
if you wish to use shiyori then bhimari ako maki skanna dtsukuyo will work fine
but it might not gold if it is slow and you dont crit with shiyorin
untold tusk
I already maxxed Maki EX skill should I not have done that
round kayak
wait wait wait she has two right hands
isnt that the left hand just crossed over between
covert spoke
I already maxxed Maki EX skill should I not have done that
probably not that necessary right now.
if you were trying torment then i would say it would be good
summer dew
isnt that the left hand just crossed over between
look at your own left hand
copper surge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1201921121373655081/1471782041346375702/t...
is this a shop?
round kayak
look at your own left hand
looks correct tho
untold tusk
How fast to clear Binah for gold?
I seen a 30 second clear do I have to be as fast as that?
round kayak
Im doing a real time inspection rn
hallow plank
surely they'll give open core guaranteed crit damage received and high evasion
Surely we'll have this QoL in lunatic Chesed.
Nodoka: Is it my turn?
round kayak
covert spoke
How fast to clear Binah for gold?
I seen a 30 second clear do I have to be as fa...
i am not sure you have the striker buffers
to clear in 30
summer dew
Im doing a real time inspection rn
im inspecting my hands too but i can not bend my left one in any angle to match either of yuzus
round kayak
im inspecting my hands too but i can not bend my left one in any angle to match ...
okay that is understandable
unless she's "really" flexible
dim frigate
isnt that literally just two different animations so it's her right hand in both
covert spoke
look at your own left hand
i am pretty sure it is just two different positions of her right hand just both being imposed at the same time
summer dew
that must be it
dim frigate
round kayak
so its two different frames at one single scene?
untold tusk
When is Bunah TA is tomorrow yes?
copper crescent
In 4 days
round kayak
untold tusk
Which attack type was Binah I remember was yellow
untold tusk
Is not SHiyori weak to yellow I have to run shield student?
copper crescent
SHiyori is weak to binah attacks yes
midnight river
Which attack type was Binah I remember was yellow
Better memory than me 😔
copper crescent
You can borrow mika or uneru and then use your own kisaki and ako and maki and akane
obsidian heath
Better memory than me 😔
I only rember the resist color and infer the atk color from that
you use red tanks vs binah or kaiten so they got to have yellow attack
covert spoke
Is not SHiyori weak to yellow I have to run shield student?
you are aiming to kill quick so it doesnt matter
copper crescent
Oh true
covert spoke
every boss except wakamo has blue attack because boshi
obsidian heath
the tor speedrun meta and its consequences
copper crescent
Ig I've came full circle
this line used to be smth like the ins speedrun meta and its consequences
I didn't believe that was how it rly went for the difficulty cycles but now it's right here
I used to be like, no way tor is gonna be speedrun when it's so hard
torn thorn
Like any gacha game “difficulty” comes from stats
tor was only “hard” because our units were literally weaker
By virtue of having lower tier gear
copper crescent
Yes
torn thorn
That’s not even accounting for spiking power levels due to support powercreep
gleaming wren
usuba ritsu.... usawa reisa.........
old rose
why does yuzu trends say current global raid is yesod
gleaming wren
theyre not trying to hide it....
copper crescent
Oh my god
feral jetty
I used to be like, no way tor is gonna be speedrun when it's so hard
just wait for when it happens to luna
old rose
just wait for when it happens to luna
nah that can never happen, luna is too hard !
copper crescent
I'm still trying to wrap my head around it
untold tusk
Lunatic is not very easy
copper crescent
Luna 1pan speedrun feels ridiculous to imagine
old rose
greg is probably a wanpan
copper crescent
And then somehow in 2028 ppl are probably doing them
west perch
why you think they haven't rerun greg yet
feral jetty
Luna 1pan speedrun feels ridiculous to imagine
you just have to wait for next luna greg
torn thorn
luna 1-2pan when lv 100
copper crescent
Greg is greg
west perch
mark my words
90/100
untold tusk
A level 100......................
covert spoke
peroro is alr 3pan
torn thorn
did bro miss baris lol
copper crescent
I mean peroro luna 1pan
feral jetty
But peroro? How tf
wait for when we get the survivability to be able to run a full team without a healer and run a support instead
untold tusk
Arius fes would be cool
I predict that will not be this year
untold tusk
This year will be SIroha TS support as fes 5.5
simple igloo
This year will be SIroha TS support as fes 5.5
sibuki siubki sibuki
covert spoke
😭
copper crescent
So you'd pair her with rio and then it'll be busted
covert spoke
s.ibuki lets you draw your entire hand at once and use any card for 20 seconds
copper crescent
Funny enough if u don't give any buff aside from the double redraw, I don't feel like it's that busted
copper surge
Gehenna fest has an Hina-sized problem
I dont think Nexon wants anothr Hina alt right now, but who can be fest on GeHINA faction?
feral jetty
i'm not an iroha ibuki fest believer
i feel like they'll be the next limited to be revealed but not fest
copper crescent
Yes
untold tusk
SIroha and SIbuki for will be fes 5.5 just wait
gleaming wren
i'm not an iroha ibuki fest believer
not even nearly close to being relevant enough for being fest
0 chance
feral jetty
yeah you're not wrong
gleaming wren
they might get a banner like swimsuit hyakkarouran
polar orbit
Definitely not fest, maybe some random standard banner though
copper surge
Gehenna is quite the underveloped faction because most of their students hang around outside it
untold tusk
Iroha is popular enough student for fes!
feral jetty
i'm expecting them to be revealed in the next stream
feral jetty
Iroha is popular enough student for fes!
not powerful enough though
copper crescent
Oh wow
odd geyser
feral jetty
that's not how fest works
copper surge
I see an universe where Iroha geta new tank, and Iroha + Tank are stroung enough to be considered fest caliber
gleaming wren
not powerful enough though
(hanako isn't either but that's not the point)
feral jetty
you can't get all the way up to fest level through popularity alone
feral jetty
(hanako isn't either but that's not the point)
hanako has influence
she's not physically powerful sure
odd geyser
it'd be Makoto fes
feral jetty
but she's powerful in other ways
untold tusk
not powerful enough though
You telling me Hanako is all powerful?
copper crescent
Hanako is politically and intellectually powerful
dim frigate
smartest trinity student
odd geyser
You telling me Hanako is all powerful?
#story-skippers
untold tusk
Well who do you think will be fes 5.5?
candid gust
uhhhhh okay i will take them all
gleaming wren
Well who do you think will be fes 5.5?
Hifumi naturally
copper crescent
I'd say she's better than nagi if they're given the same task of managing and hanako is willing to do it
feral jetty
it's too early to say right now
covert spoke
the way I see it is theres shit going on with the blue archive story
we've had chroma
we've had robots
but im not sure anyone really knows about the gematria and magic stuff
if thats where the story goes next, theres three schools for it
hyakkiyako for eastern style yokai and magic from deities and such
or arius (or gehenna) if its more about religious rituals and souls
odd geyser
Well who do you think will be fes 5.5?
the only path to SIroha is for SMakoto fes
copper surge
boring as it may sound, Gehenna fest will be Hina, so they'll delay it for a bit until people miss Hina again
untold tusk
the only path to SIroha is for SMakoto fes
I would like SMakoto fes why not?
gleaming wren
hina was already fest onc- oh wait hoshino has 2 fest variants
copper crescent
Vol f is v1 finale, vol x is v2 finale
copper surge
because its a summer fest i expect the sleeping girl from Hiakk to be it
gleaming wren
odd geyser
Hina (Terror)
feral jetty
boring as it may sound, Gehenna fest will be Hina, so they'll delay it for a bit...
i think makoto could be gehenna fest
copper crescent
so next vol is gonna be v3 finale
copper surge
i think makoto could be gehenna fest
what is the community opinion on Makoto?
feral jetty
maybe we could get something like smakoto + niyaniya double fest
copper crescent
She could
candid gust
uhhh thanke dajin
odd geyser
what is the community opinion on Makoto?
doesn't matter
untold tusk
I like Makoto
copper surge
Fest are usually popular students bro
copper crescent
it doesn't matter
copper surge
Hina, Hoshino, Aris, all popular
copper crescent
Yes
covert spoke
was hanako really that popular
round kayak
makoto sucks (per personality)
odd geyser
Fest are usually popular students bro
I'd argue Neru/Hanako became more popular after their fes
feral jetty
neru wasn't all that popular too
dim frigate
neru definitley
copper crescent
But not like makoto level of unpopular
dim frigate
they really hit with the pairing of her and seia
copper surge
Makoto fest is like someone telling me Cherino will be fest. She is a heel in the story. I like her, but she is not well loved
copper crescent
Makoto fans is like 10 ppl or smth
covert spoke
hanako was more just a vessel for koharu jokes
i appreciate makoto
i didnt really like her at first
copper crescent
same
covert spoke
but then i realised hina deserves it
gleaming wren
i thought Niya and Nagusa would be fest not gonna lie
copper crescent
wtf
gleaming wren
but then i realised hina deserves it
truth nuke
covert spoke
niya is like
feral jetty
you are right in that 99% of gehenna's power is concentrated in hina though
copper surge
but a Makoto SPECIAL fesT? Sure, why not. If Nagisa can...
feral jetty
and that otherwise the school is full of bums
covert spoke
its such a shame that she wasnt fest after the v5 ch2
copper crescent
Idk why hina deserves it
odd geyser
Fest are usually popular students bro
double fes means one of the fes can be less popular
proven dove
i thought Niya and Nagusa would be fest not gonna lie
Especially nagusa x_x
dim frigate
you are right in that 99% of gehenna's power is concentrated in hina though
akari stomach superpower erasure
copper crescent
Is it just bc hina gets shilled so much
copper surge
Hina keeps Gehenna in order, but does Gehenna wants to be in order?
covert spoke
her power is from output
gleaming wren
gehenna is condemned to just be the shadow of Hina
covert spoke
that doesnt win a war
untold tusk
I do not really like Hina so is best scenario for me if is Hina fes again since I just save more instead
feral jetty
maybe we could get a ps68 fest? idfk
covert spoke
you are all forgetting that the average gehenna mob is a supersoldier
copper surge
Most Gehenna named students seen to resent or fear Hina, so I dont know who, exactly, she is protecting
gleaming wren
your mom
covert spoke
who else
odd geyser
Most Gehenna named students seen to resent or fear Hina, so I dont know who, exa...
makoto gotta be the true hero of gehenna fr fr
untold tusk
Erika
copper crescent
Im running out of ideas
round kayak
ibuki
untold tusk
Iroha
covert spoke
hina doesnt protect them
hina also doesnt protect fuuka all that much
she has been kidnapped and put into bondage twice per week on average by gourmet gang
candid gust
Wtf dajin's blessing?!
copper surge
Oh, I see it now...
....ERIKA FEST
round kayak
not as much as protecting but it just her job ig
untold tusk
Erika as fes you say?
copper crescent
Hina keeps Gehenna in order, but does Gehenna wants to be in order?
Yeah now that u mentioned it, maybe Hina is stunting Gehenna's growth
dim frigate
Gehenna main story + fox squad resolution would be perfect for me
simple igloo
happy valentines day
marble gust
Oh, I see it now...
....ERIKA FEST
hopium
simple igloo
i like ibuki
copper surge
Yeah now that u mentioned it, maybe Hina is stunting Gehenna's growth
I think Gehenna would be a 2nd Red Winter without Hina, tbh
Makoto is just a grow-up Cherino
proven dove
I think Gehenna would be a 2nd Red Winter without Hina, tbh
I wholeheartedly disagree
round kayak
Gehenna main story + fox squad resolution would be perfect for me
fox squad resolution sounds like something that happens when we solve the mystery of the GSC president
dim frigate
i mean they're just in jail
round kayak
getting out is another question aye
dim frigate
ask wakamo
round kayak
copper crescent
Unlike cherino, makoto doesn't have much power to go against the troublemakers
copper surge
I still think Ayame is on the books
They can use fest to close the story arch with she waking up
copper crescent
Any one group would sweep her
gleaming wren
Unlike cherino, makoto doesn't have much power to go against the troublemakers
she does, she just doesn't care lol
covert spoke
Unlike cherino, makoto doesn't have much power to go against the troublemakers
wym she employs them
copper crescent
Huh
copper surge
Gehenna is mostly a dump with a small cluster of weatlhy around Makoto, and Hina tagging along
So Hina plays police because in the end, it's that or live in the dump, and she likes the comfort of a posh life
covert spoke
you know demons crave the hot springs and the department is bankrolled by gehenna right
proven dove
Gehenna has a lot of quirky characters, but y'all just wanna blame hina.
Haruna, kasumi, makoto, aru, their factions are interesting by themselves.
Heck I'd even see a fes potential out of these units if they wanna focus on them
Also ako iori and other characters are interesting to focus on
copper surge
Gehenna has a lot of quirky characters, but y'all just wanna blame hina.
Haruna...
But those students are usually outside Gehenna, and they get lots of spotlight already
proven dove
Gehenna literally a gold mine
covert spoke
ako is not
gleaming wren
ako is hot
copper crescent
Iirc during dhina fest makoto employs kasumi and got cooked
And when hina gone makoto was powerless
proven dove
But those students are usually outside Gehenna, and they get lots of spotlight a...
They are inside and outside, they even participate in the school's trips.
copper surge
"Point in the doll where Hina touched you, Kasumi"
hybrid halo
copper surge
I know its played for giggles, but Kasumi fear of Hina seen genuine.
covert spoke
u mean kasumi?
copper crescent
Kasumi yeah
copper surge
u mean kasumi?
yeah, sorry
covert spoke
it is very genuine
copper crescent
Makoto def doesn't fear hina
copper surge
But the community reacted negatively to Hina getting special treatment so I dont know if Nexon would go for it
A lot of students have just 1 alt, for Hina to get her 3rd will rub people the wrong way
candid gust
copper crescent
Hina won't get more alts
copper surge
Hina will get more alts, eventually
candid gust
copper crescent
She has reached the supposed max that we've seen
copper surge
I dont expect students to be always 1:1 in terms of alts
But some fan favorites are still missing
copper crescent
How well do u think makoto fest would be received
copper surge
Not much, she is a "villain" char and JP like good girls.
dim frigate
after pandomonium the altless situation is pretty fine
covert spoke
badly unless we had a gehenna volume then good
copper crescent
Oh true
copper surge
she can be the 2nd fest, but you need a MAIN fest to carry, like Seia + Neru
copper crescent
Makoto hasn't gotten much development
copper surge
wait, Seia was not the fest
copper crescent
Seia was not
covert spoke
its just that we havent had gehenna volume
copper surge
who went with Neru? Rio
copper crescent
Rio was
copper surge
So yeah, something like Makoto + someone
copper crescent
Rio carried
covert spoke
i mean like
copper crescent
Uneru was lesser of the two during the reveal
covert spoke
the announcement cheering at event was like massive for seia
feral jetty
she can be the 2nd fest, but you need a MAIN fest to carry, like Seia + Neru
makoto fest with niyaniya carrying 
copper surge
Mind you, people may welcome a Gehenna eps without Hina, just for the novelty of it
copper crescent
They will
covert spoke
and kinda some cheers for uasuna
copper surge
the plot may even be "Hina took a vacation and now Makoto needs to deal with the fallout"
covert spoke
then subdued kinda ... nice cheers for uneru
copper crescent
The Gehenna story without hina would be fresh
copper surge
So its just chaos and chaos, and no HIna to clean up the mess
covert spoke
then again explosion for rio
covert spoke
i mean
copper surge
(i know she was not fest)
copper surge
Hina is missing, Makoto goes full dictator, and from the masses, the pleb students raise to challenge her tiranny, lead by.....
copper crescent
Holy cooking
crude sable
Erika breaks nexon containment and holds hina hostage arc
copper surge
No, Erika FREE Hina
copper crescent
For a chaotic school, gehenna isn't that overwhelming
simple igloo
No, Erika FREE Hina
copper crescent
Trinity with all their manipulation and politics going on and Millennium fighting gods and Gehenna is just chilling
copper surge
https://tenor.com/view/narnia-aslan-knife-lower-it-put-it-down-gif-5556694520895...
🙁
copper surge
Millenium exports tech
Trinity exports luxury
Gehenna exports trouble
simple igloo
Millenium exports tech
Trinity exports luxury
Gehenna exports trouble
gehenna export ibuki
copper surge
I feel Ibuki is for the internal market
I wonder if the writers think that ahead, but most Trinity named students seen to just be rich
Like, Hifumi can go on her Peroro splurge with no sign of ever needing money
This apply to ASS club too
simple igloo
crude sable
The thing about gehenna is that under the surface, theres the potential for an incredibly serious arc revolving around something from thunder emperor era with makoto not acting like an idiot because its the one thing she takes seriously
covert spoke
Like, Hifumi can go on her Peroro splurge with no sign of ever needing money
Thi...
thats not rich though thats just good exchange rate
copper crescent
Yes there is
simple igloo
mommy nagisa club money fund
covert spoke
there is a gap in wealth in trinity
copper crescent
The thing about gehenna is that under the surface, theres the potential for an i...
There is yeah but we have not gotten anything of that level yet
covert spoke
i would not be surprised if wild hunt is on average richer than trinity students, if you exclude tea party
and if you included tea party, that trinity suddenly is twice as wealthy on average
copper surge
thats not rich though thats just good exchange rate
But other students deal with money issues
Game Club always need funding or new gadgets
Gehenna students are notoriously chasing money and working part time
Hiakk festival is about, well, making money
Red Winter is just poor af
But Trinity is like "a new expensive limited cake is on sale, LETS GO"
odd geyser
who needs borrow?
copper crescent
"F2pbtw"
odd geyser
copper crescent
Trinity girls are rich rich
simple igloo
i would not be surprised if wild hunt is on average richer than trinity students...
wat talm abt
copper surge
Trinity girls are rich rich
This is the overall vibe I get
covert spoke
i dont get that vibe
trinity girls speak about saving up money and getting jobs part time
copper surge
Gehenna seen to be split, we have a weathly elite and poor plebs.
copper surge
trinity girls speak about saving up money and getting jobs part time
Really? I don't recall
simple igloo
trinity girls speak about saving up money and getting jobs part time
wat
copper crescent
Weird I don't remember trinity girls talking about needing money
covert spoke
shifumi bg2 says she saved up a long time for it
crude sable
Trinity is rich on a ridiculous level; wild hunt seems rich when you consider its primarily a fine arts school, owning a museum and vaults with god knows how much value
covert spoke
yoshimi works at cafe
copper crescent
Most of the time it's I don't like someone and she should get punished
copper surge
Yoshimi working??? 
simple igloo
shifumi bg2 says she saved up a long time for it
prob sum evil blackmarket tank price punp up
copper surge
Holy shit, Yoshimi F2P, not whel
copper crescent
Yoshimi was always f2p
copper surge
Which is weird since Yoshimi has a LITERAL silver spoon
dim frigate
ichika also perma working
odd geyser
Yoshimi f2p like me fr fr
crude sable
Thats like renge and suzumi tbh
copper surge
Ah, I see.. Yoshimi mega whel, just working to fake it. The cafe is prob from her family
crude sable
They do it for the love of the game
odd geyser
copper surge
Yoshimi is F2P like Dajin. Trinity filhty rich, confirmed
odd geyser
Ah, I see.. Yoshimi mega whel, just working to fake it. The cafe is prob from he...
bro the sweets club just bought a whole bunch of instruments on a whim. think about it
copper surge
yup
copper crescent
And has their own designed clothes with their band logo
copper surge
Well, tbf, printing a log on a white shirt is dirty cheap
simple igloo
Well, tbf, printing a log on a white shirt is dirty cheap
15 clamps
copper surge
Gehenna is poor, but Haruna is part of the whealthy elite.
Its weird having 1 rich and 3 poor students in a group but thats how Gourmet Club rolls
candid gust
F99 is so free wtf
hallow plank
Yoshimi f2p like me fr fr <:YoshimiSmile:1075815622564380722>
True!
copper crescent
Its weird having 1 rich and 3 poor students in a group but thats how Gourmet Clu...
Someone has to fund their meals lol
odd geyser
F99 is so free wtf
F106 is so free wtf
copper surge
dang... I did F97 and was feeling good about myself
simple igloo
tf unifofm mika
copper surge
Comparison is, indeed, the thief of joy
odd geyser
odd geyser
I did 99 on auto nerf 
copper crescent
Kei and msuzumi makes f106 free im p sure
hallow plank
F99 is so free wtf
F108 also free!
copper surge
its getting harder and harder to release swimsuit fest tho
odd geyser
Kei and msuzumi makes f106 free im p sure
tbh, it was mostly MSuzumi/MReisa I'm pretty sure
Kei made it stressful to just keep her alive
copper crescent
Wot
old rose
f124 also free !!
copper surge
F999 free af
copper crescent
Ok whel
odd geyser
Nerfnow is the real yoshimi whel of gpd
odd geyser
list of 124s
copper crescent
Whew
feral jetty
any videos yet?
old rose
list of 124s
u have all the students just borrow bnatsu and you can do f124 too !!
feral jetty
also lol nykayo actually got replaced by kei
odd geyser
my kokona is 3* and I don't have nebra
feral jetty
ripbozo
old rose
didnt think she would live...
copper crescent
She probably was designed to live
polar orbit
i am shocked that ny akari still makes the cut
feral jetty
i guess it makes sense that if they're keeping broko alive that kei would live too
copper crescent
That's why they specifically went for hp
feral jetty
kei also has long range so she can avoid some attacks i believe
odd geyser
i am shocked that ny akari still makes the cut
tbh, it might be just for the basic
odd geyser
maybe with kok you have the cost to summon her
feral jetty
the sub probably helps too
odd geyser
but at least with the team I took, I felt like I didn't have enough to do everything I wanted
Akari is also a great stat stick
copper crescent
Yeah defense up raises ehp
polar orbit
yeah my thought is just that's a lot of blue buff dilution
old rose
i am shocked that ny akari still makes the cut
would be sad if she didn't
her kit is made for set
feral jetty
you got atk sub on mreisa and crit dmg sub on skikyou
copper surge
Acari was an amazing spook. I am happy.
copper crescent
If u take like 10% less dmg bc of the increased defense, you'd be able to tank 11.1% more dmg
odd geyser
I could see a world where SMimori is used instead
old rose
also was there any other team that cleared f124 blue chok?
polar orbit
what buff does mreisa give when she's on the field
old rose
atk
copper crescent
Atk
polar orbit
ohhh
copper crescent
Cdmg if enough stacks
polar orbit
Cdmg if enough stacks
so occoasionally she conflicts with skikyou?
copper crescent
She's like oshig but also slightly buffs team with atk and cdmg
polar orbit
or no cause it's basic skill
copper crescent
Yes
polar orbit
might be too early for my brain to work
copper crescent
I forgot how auras overwrite
old rose
i don't think so?
polar orbit
it should be the same rules
odd geyser
so occoasionally she conflicts with skikyou?
aura crit dmg basic so no
old rose
isn't skikyou's basic actually targeted
feral jetty
(ignore that it's just f99)
copper crescent
Huh rly
feral jetty
oh shit
dim frigate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKgrqaK7i3Q
lilac solar
ritsustare
old rose
its aoe applied to everyone in her range
copper surge
old rose
snagisa here is vile
candid gust
F108 also free!
KANON!
lilac solar
fox squad fes pls
copper crescent
Skikyou basic stacks with mreisa sure but what about her ex
candid gust
just need to crit more
feral jetty
so occoasionally she conflicts with skikyou?
notice the wording of the skill
old rose
Skikyou basic stacks with mreisa sure but what about her ex
wdym
polar orbit
isn't skikyou's basic actually targeted
yes, her basic is, but not the hammock's enh
old rose
yes, her basic is, but not the hammock's enh
yea so that stacks with mreisa just fine, cuz hers is basic aura
copper crescent
Does her aura cdmg buff stack with mreisa's aura cdmg buff
polar orbit
notice the wording of the skill
right, it changes thermite pink's enh to also give crit dmg, but kikyou's hammock has crit dmg buff
old rose
Does her aura cdmg buff stack with mreisa's aura cdmg buff
skikyou is enh aura, mreisa is basic aura
polar orbit
so we have two enh aura crit dmg buffs
feral jetty
yeah
polar orbit
which dont stack
old rose
no?
polar orbit
thermite pink's basic is damage and healing
old rose
mreisa doesn't have an enhanced cdmg aura buff
polar orbit
she does every 5 uses
old rose
this is basic
copper crescent
But when she pops her basic, the next tank she summons has the cdmg enh aura
feral jetty
"improving the passive skill to also increase crit dmg"
old rose
it doesn't count as sourced from her basic?
copper crescent
Her basic is for the next tank she summons
polar orbit
no cause the basic changes thermite pink's enh
copper crescent
Yeah
opaque dagger
i am shocked that ny akari still makes the cut
Bag and Def Basic goes hard on top of her existing buffs
polar orbit
so it's not coming from basic it's coming from enh
opaque dagger
Like, quad Bag Specials is the name of the game
odd geyser
IT'S ACTUALLY POSSIBLE
shanako stat transfer diffy 
feral jetty
schale says they stack though so i'm confused
old rose
they all stack in schaledb calc
candid gust
shanako stat transfer diffy <:clueless:1306337894289375304>
one moment nyk got saved by kok before nyk died
polar orbit
dajin help us
odd geyser
dajin can u test it
test what
old rose
i mean I think they should? it's basic sourced
copper crescent
Only Dajin can test it
feral jetty
test if mreisa and skikyou crit dmg buffs stack
odd geyser
they should
copper crescent
they should but
polar orbit
test what
every 5 uses of termite pink, she gets crit dmg on her enh skill, which may or may not conflict with skikyou's hammock
copper crescent
Yeah that
odd geyser
Thermite Pink to also increase allies' Crit DMG
by 16.3% while they stay within range.
that implies aura
SKikyou basic isn't aura
polar orbit
it's not her basic
copper crescent
Not skik basic
polar orbit
it's the hammock
opaque dagger
kei also has long range so she can avoid some attacks i believe
Kei probably avoids Bursting Radiance, that's huge, that one does so much dmg
hallow plank
so occoasionally she conflicts with skikyou?
Yes, M. Reisa occasionally conflicts with S. Kikyou.
polar orbit
kanon has decreed
odd geyser
man MReisa basic takes forever to proc
feral jetty
> Thermite Pink to also increase allies' Crit DMG
> by 16.3% while they stay wi...
this is the problem
copper crescent
Idk why they say passive skill instead of enh
Thermite doesn't have one that specifically states passive skill
old rose
passive skill and enh must be different that's why they stack
polar orbit
anyway if they don't stack it just means the routing is a bit trickier
copper crescent
Yeah
polar orbit
that's all
copper crescent
In case they don't stack tho
hallow plank
aura crit dmg basic so no
We are talking about M. Reisa, right?
That 16.3% Crit DMG should be from summon passive.
copper crescent
How does aura determine which buff gets canceled
odd geyser
skikyou basic alone
odd geyser
SKikyou basic + EX
feral jetty
dajin we're not talking about skikyou basic
copper crescent
Yup
polar orbit
okay
copper crescent
Dajin is still doing stuff
polar orbit
what about mreisa discounted ex + skikyou ex
copper crescent
Now do we get mreisa and skikyou ex stacked
odd geyser
SKikyou basic + EX and MReisa Basic
polar orbit
yes
old rose
cuz its from basic !!!
hallow plank
old rose
feral jetty
wao they stack
copper crescent
Huh
polar orbit
that was just them normally
odd geyser
I yeeted IMine off to the side and she loses MReisa basic and SKikyou EX. Keeps SKikyou basic
polar orbit
well yes cause they are aura
polar orbit
that wasnt the question
old rose
the point is skikyou basic is targeted (just for clarification)
polar orbit
the question was does the 1 cost mreisa crit buff stack with skikyou's hammock
copper crescent
So u can stack everything mreisa gives with everything skik gives
round kayak
anyone got the HW of this lineup 
copper crescent
the question was does the 1 cost mreisa crit buff stack with skikyou's hammock
It should be as seen from third aru pic
polar orbit
we know skikyou's basic stacks
polar orbit
It should be as seen from third aru pic
but was that the discounted or not
or just both ex's normally
copper crescent
It is
polar orbit
oh
copper crescent
Bc only the discounted gives cdmg
copper crescent
Normally it gives atk
odd geyser
anyone got the HW of this lineup <:KUYASHII:1217517796842537071>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zApFSKn0Tzk basically just this
you don't really need hw for the last team
polar orbit
well color me surprised
copper crescent
Same
polar orbit
this game is weird
copper crescent
I remember doing this with umika
round kayak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zApFSKn0Tzk basically just this
you don't really...
thanks dajin 
feral jetty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zApFSKn0Tzk basically just this
you don't really...
what the fuck i don't even need mreisa?
odd geyser
thanks dajin <a:IrohaRub:1228871234293469214>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFrxhSlqgtE found one with mreisa
copper crescent
polar orbit
imari human rights
odd geyser
feral jetty
imari havers
pale fractal
aaaa...
old rose
we got koharu
tall glacier
round kayak
check this shit out https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1...
wao so thats the infamous safe spot ive been hearing about
polar orbit
ue60 koharu is free!
hallow plank
SKikyou basic + EX and MReisa Basic
What… So in theory they don’t stack but in practice they stack?
odd geyser
What… So in theory they don’t stack but in practice they stack?
different sources
MReisa is basic aura, SKikyou is EX summon's passive aura
round kayak
we got koharu <:ShizukoStonks:1075815655288344687>
oh duck found this 3* himari on p1 if you want
https://youtu.be/CcwlaeDHm74?si=VLSrNdzLX42TMoYQ
round kayak
I think it does for some cause I saw one hw which waited a bit longer before using shanako's ex
old rose
i can throw like 3 teams to make up damage for phase transition
round kayak
wait this is green?
old rose
i think it is
old rose
but im color blind so my opinion might not be the most reliable
hallow plank
different sources
The wording of the skill description sounds more like M. Reisa’s basic skill improves her summon’s passive aura to also buff Crit DMG.
It says, “improving the Passive Skill of the summoned Thermite Pink to also increase allies' Crit DMG”.
S. Kikyou’s buff also comes from her summon’s passive aura.
round kayak
I suck in colour classification so yeah we are in the same boat
polar orbit
it's like a mute olive imo
old rose
ur a mute olive
polar orbit
wtf
old rose
copper crescent
Idek anymore
odd geyser
The wording of the skill description sounds more like M. Reisa’s basic skill imp...
there's a delay to the activation of the effect which really makes it look like a normal basic skill
candid gust
dajin pls help