Maaaaan
#💬gameplay-discussion
snow portal
steep vortex
don’t forget the fest recollection
lone widget
7th anni?
opaque dagger
What is Eimi Armed even for
snow portal
All I can say is good luck
haughty bluff
i want both bhimars and brio but i need the roxenes for fes
my luck better go insano style with those 100 free pulls
opaque dagger
I look at the kit and I was like "holy shit can I use her for Set" and then I saw the armor type
lone widget
they're just released today
copper crescent
Her kit is a mystery to me 😔
opaque dagger
Kaiten maybe or new raid
If this was Blue/Purple armor I'd try her out on Set ngl
snow portal
What is Eimi Armed even for
To satisfy popqn's need for humongous 
opaque dagger
Looks good for Set
copper crescent
Yeah she would be
opaque dagger
But Red armor makes me wonder
copper crescent
It's the red armor that makes this a puzzle
opaque dagger
Outside of Kaiten, who else is Yellow Atk Red Armor
copper crescent
No one unless ga
summer dew
it's easy for me: skip magicals, pull imari, skip iwappi, skip ninjas, skip tyuuka, selector kisaki, pull shoshi, pull kei
zero regrets
lone widget
it's easy for me: skip magicals, pull imari, skip iwappi, skip ninjas, skip tyuu...
good plan
opaque dagger
Thank you Nexon, very cool
haughty bluff
im going to spend 72000 pyros max on fes for kei, aris, and boshino
wish me luck on magical girls and idols such that i dont have to spark on either of them
copper crescent
Yellow attackers are binah boat kaiten srkr
lone widget
my plan would be mleisa, hot dmichiru, then fests and maybe byuzu
wait will next selector has byuzu or still too soon
opaque dagger
Yellow attackers are binah boat kaiten srkr
Hot idea: Yuzu Armed for Tiph
lone widget
i can ditch nyacari since i can slacc f99 blue set without her now
opaque dagger
It conflicts with Rio, but imagine having cost down on both Yukari Swimsuit and Meeka
woven sigil
wait will next selector has byuzu or still too soon
1.5 years till then approx
opaque dagger
And literally no buff uptime worries
opaque dagger
I feel like Yuzu Armed could be stonks on Tiph
opaque dagger
Ye and there's no buff uptime concerns
Only problem is it conflicts with Rio directly
So Rio exists just to copypasta
haughty bluff
I feel like Yuzu Armed could be stonks on Tiph
who would work best with byuzu on tiphareth?
smika is the first that comes to mind but she has suck indoor affinity
opaque dagger
who would work best with byuzu on tiphareth?
smika is the first that comes to mi...
Yukari Swimsuit and Meeka both 6 cost
summer dew
<:CONCERNED:1162402561551249438>
everything is going to be fine trust
lone widget
believe in love
opaque dagger
Think about the stonks on Yellow Tiph
lone widget
the bonds we have with the students
snow portal
everything is going to be fine trust
Let's put a pin in that
haughty bluff
Yukari Swimsuit and Meeka both 6 cost
oh, this is for yellow tiph?
lone widget
then surely everything will be alright (or u spark 5 banners in a row)
opaque dagger
oh, this is for yellow tiph?
Dunno how good she will be for Purple Tiph
west perch
who would work best with byuzu on tiphareth?
smika is the first that comes to mi...
rotationally, tiph balances around having cost down on 2 units
whether we'll see it being useful is 
however, she is on the special slot
snow portal
Special slot is highly contested
lone widget
ye
west perch
eh, i feel like removing rio removes justification entirely 
haughty bluff
armored core x blue archive collab when
west perch
the state of wasting time
west perch
i will slap you
haughty bluff
but why
west perch
if you share it here
lone widget
i will yesod u
haughty bluff
if you share it here
i wont, i'll just watch the stuff on youtube
west perch
i dont get wanting to see it without the context of the story 
untold tusk
Did they add BEimi to schaledb?
I want to update roster
haughty bluff
i dont get wanting to see it without the context of the story <:shiroko:90856374...
i just think the boss fights look cool
west perch
give 'em time
haughty bluff
i will read story tho, i enjoy it
mint sapphire
i dont get wanting to see it without the context of the story <:shiroko:90856374...
reminds me of that one guy i saw under a raid clear who desperately wanted a raid clear with EX skill animations turned on
copper crescent
Wait are we sure byuzu doesn't stack with rio
copper crescent
Ah just wondering bc her atk buff is a bit different than usual
west perch
also realised
copper crescent
I see
west perch
beimi bhimari is another end animation that will never be seen in normal play 
pliant bluff
unless you time right after the ex hits and rio hits right after byuzu buff
copper crescent
Too much effort lol
Next new boss release would be frr I think since chokmah came before geb and tiph came after but before yesod
frigid oar
bye
summer dew
bye
copper crescent
bye
candid gust
hmm ok
candid gust
bye
i know what i am doing tbh
i can just take the account within 7 days and it will cancel the reset progress
copper crescent
The last 4 new boss releases are all deca
copper crescent
oh
copper crescent
i did not know that
simple ravine
simple ravine
tall glacier
Real
polar orbit
man... what am i supposed to think about this
polar orbit
soft junco
i dunno even the 2 times cost down units are hard to use
a 3 times one? seems very complex
polar orbit
it's 9s attack buff that gets me
you probably need to bring a second dedicated attack buffer
soft junco
yea might as well not exist
polar orbit
uneru's skill animation itself is practically 9s
summer dew
9s is 4.54 cost with a cost sub unit in team
polar orbit
yeah but the point is that the attack buff doesn't last
copper crescent
you probably need to bring a second dedicated attack buffer
The 9s starts when the ally use the ex with cost down applied
pliant bluff
Yeah
polar orbit
okay she's broken
copper crescent
So in aaris' case, she gets 9s when she charge and the 9s reset when she use the beam
soft junco
what were u trying to do?
copper crescent
U can delay the 9s by not using the ex
pliant bluff
okay she's broken
Not rlly?
polar orbit
free attack buff on 3 uses of an ex
copper crescent
She looks like she might be good with aaris but I don't think it's that huge an advantage over seia/ui
soft junco
is that atk buff gonna replace ex atk buff?
summer dew
yes
soft junco
hmmm
pliant bluff
She's best for those who have continuous ex usage like smika or aaris
Uneru is not I think
Uneru wants to spam her ex more
polar orbit
byuzu is 4 for 3 ex, himari is (practically speaking) 6 for 3 ex
copper crescent
Seia is 3+2+2+4 = 11 with seia generating cost, byuzu is 4+2+2+2 = 10
echo oar
4 cost is real awkward if you don't have a good way to use her every rotation
polar orbit
smaller buff but saves cost
soft junco
whatever she's perma unit. Hope one day she spooks
summer dew
seia is 1.8 if you bake in the cost regen over 15s rot
copper crescent
4 cost is real awkward if you don't have a good way to use her every rotation
That'll come with time when ppl have more time to figure out how to rotate with her
pliant bluff
Either they just use 1 ex and be fine
copper crescent
Imo still too early to say about not having rotation
pliant bluff
Or use other ex to rotate back to the dps ex
copper crescent
U also don't have to use her every rotation
pliant bluff
Idk
polar orbit
or use her ex on someone else
polar orbit
anyone with card redraw
copper crescent
It's more than just that if you're using 6+ cost ex
pliant bluff
Which we have 2 atm?
polar orbit
she conflicts with rio though, so that's unlucky
copper crescent
For 6 cost EXs, it's a net gain of 5 cost per byuzu ex
And still a net gain of 2 cost for 4-5 cost ex
pliant bluff
If her ex cost 3 then it can be considered
copper crescent
I think her conflicting with rio is intended
summer dew
Seia is 3+2+2+4 = 11 with seia generating cost, byuzu is 4+2+2+2 = 10
tho if you add chare for atk buff, and assume seia were 1.8, then it's 1.8+2+2+2+4 = 11.8
it's role compression but with smaller buff, same way nyfuuka is
pliant bluff
I think her conflicting with rio is intended
I think her playstyle is for those card redrawn exs
Not normal exs
copper crescent
It is, but it's also about seeing if we can use her outside of those two
candid gust
pliant bluff
Like you either use exs continuously or ramp up and use 1 to end it all
candid gust
deleting acc postponed!
copper crescent
She's not so restricting that you could only use her for smika and aaris
pliant bluff
It is, but it's also about seeing if we can use her outside of those two
Kinda like ui at ex 3 iirc
iirc
ui ex cost decreases right?
candid gust
ui has 2 ex cost down at any level
copper crescent
Yes
candid gust
It's just reducing the cost to reduce it
candid gust
Her ex cost
5 5 4 4 3 ya!
copper crescent
5 for ex1, 4 for ex3, 3 for ex5
copper crescent
Seia is the one that doesn't get 2x cost down until 5ex
sleek flicker
Hmm, 5 enemies huh?
copper crescent
Nyfuuka also doesn't get 2 cost ex until 5ex
candid gust
Nyfuuka also doesn't get 2 cost ex until 5ex
3 3 3 3 2
haha funny
haruna is 4 4 4 4 3
copper crescent
Yeah
pliant bluff
Either way I think she's gonna be an usable unit
copper crescent
Maybe chesed luna will have so many waves
candid gust
Wtf are you guys talking about
Ex cost getting chopped down
copper crescent
That you'd want to have a mobbing ex right after the previous
copper crescent
So triple mobbing ex
spice spoke
So triple mobbing ex
For the 2nd team? Since SHanako will take first
copper crescent
Chesed gets difficult when he spawns a wave when you don't have cost
sleek flicker
IIRC, S.Hoshino was like: 6 6 6 6 5
copper crescent
Nah shanako is likely not working well for luna chesed
if ur using her for mobbing by having huge buffs, the huge buffs might be better off used for core dps
copper crescent
Isn't that every unit
candid gust
Isn't that every unit
no
copper crescent
Oh
copper crescent
Yeah the jump
candid gust
Yeah the jump
Nice bait tho
copper crescent
Kirara isn't a unit I'd build anyways
untold tusk
BEimi skill upgrade order is skill EX then basic yes
copper crescent
Idk how good she is tbh so I can't say
fresh edge
For now don't build her
untold tusk
Why not though?
copper crescent
We don't know how good she is yet
And if she'll be used anywhere
And if she's good where she is used
odd geyser
Why not though?
she won't help you clear insane binah next week
untold tusk
BEimi have red armour is she not fine as a slot in Binah?
odd geyser
a fully built akane or maki is much more useful for binah and also use millennium materials
dim frigate
Millennium debt is looking great!
odd geyser
"fully built" for Akane is extremely cheap btw. Just maxed EX, nothing else
for Maki now a days, that just means maxed basic
candid gust
does anyone have a knife? End me.
odd geyser
but you won't have those materials if you just yeet them into Eimi
untold tusk
I randomly maxxed Maki basic one time
copper crescent
Not bad
candid gust
woah wtf
untold tusk
I thought was not the most thoughtful decision to maximum basic on Maki
copper crescent
Skoharu:
candid gust
oh thanks bob
copper crescent
Sure why not
candid gust
proven dove
I thought was not the most thoughtful decision to maximum basic on Maki
Basic is the highest priority to max for maki
snow portal
untold tusk
I already maxxed Maki basic skill guess is fine
polar orbit
we love gambling
snow portal
Everyone else has an interactable so Hifumi just keeps yappin
feral jetty
damn... they actually did it.......
candid gust
odd geyser
damn... they actually did it.......
she's kinda pog for smika too
polar orbit
azoos
polar orbit
she's kinda pog for smika too
for uneru too
snow portal
I wonder if they'll ever let someone bust it down on this dance game
polar orbit
I wonder if they'll ever let someone bust it down on this dance game
i wish it was OG kayako so that it could be a madoka magica reference
(their names are close enough)
odd geyser
for uneru too
eh, I think you'd still prefer Rio for UNeru
polar orbit
that's fair
odd geyser
Yuzu is most powerful for students with natural redraw
copper surge
@odd geyser Are you pulling for Cofee Yuzu?
covert spoke
feral jetty
ritsu must pull for new beimi raid trust
odd geyser
<@314787460867424257> Are you pulling for Cofee Yuzu?
no, I lied for an entire week and am skipping
copper surge
no, I lied for an entire week and am skipping
low on pyro, or low on interest?
copper crescent
No
wide basin
I rather use nyfuuka tks
odd geyser
low on pyro, or low on interest?
/s i guess
of course I pulled yuzu bro YUZUUUUUUUUUUU
hallow jacinth
.... ok .. Tsurugi.. but the pink gremlin
copper surge
<:bruh:472625103889235968>
I mean, she is not Aris, unless you also want all Game Club
covert spoke
she is aris slave
copper crescent
I can't imagine Dajin skipping GDD
covert spoke
i can imagine dajin skipping maris (he hates her)
copper crescent
GDD sensei skipping gdd is psmh
hallow jacinth
copper surge
I guess asking Dajin for this was a mistake, he is waifu pilled for Game Club. -.-
odd geyser
I guess asking Dajin for this was a mistake, he is waifu pilled for Game Club. -...
I wouldn't recommend most people to pull her except for maybe @untold tusk since she's already half pulled Eimi and needs a cost down student still
copper crescent
If gdd then = must pull
ripe mason
maid gdd was as easy skip
lament gyro
If gdd then = must pull
copper crescent
What if
lament gyro
What if
copper crescent
What if
copper crescent
Yes
lament gyro
and chihiro still doesn't get an alt
copper surge
Chihiro is not a launch student so its fine
snow portal
and chihiro still doesn't get an alt
They think Chihiro is boring and never want to do anything with her
hallow plank
and chihiro still doesn't get an alt
At least she’s got a surprise new job.
candid gust
swimsuit peavine
😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟
lament gyro
swimsuit peavine
That’s just swimsuit nagi
candid gust
dajin's schizo hour
lament gyro
steady prairie
That’s just swimsuit nagi
copper surge
They think Chihiro is boring and never want to do anything with her
Chihiro is the straightman of Veritas, and straightman are hardly interesting
steady prairie
wow banging peav
copper crescent
They think Chihiro is boring and never want to do anything with her
In order to make a character good they gotta understand the character
lament gyro
wow banging peav
copper crescent
But yeah makes sense chihiro isn't as popular, but I do find her mature thinking to be cool
snow portal
Chihiro is the straightman of Veritas, and straightman are hardly interesting
True, and yet Karin has 2 alts. Curious 
copper crescent
She isn't like yuuka
lament gyro
They scammed chihiro fans out of camp alt
snow portal
In order to make a character good they gotta understand the character
If.Chihiro = Boring;
lament gyro
copper surge
Time for some misinfo again
copper crescent
Surely
snow portal
Idk to me it just seem a lot of the glasses girls kinda get shafted
Ayane, Chinatsu, Akane, Chihiro, Meru, Kotama, Kotori, Moe..
They get one alt maybe and then are forgotten about forever
copper crescent
Yeah it's so weird
copper crescent
Ig jp fandom just doesn't like glasses
copper surge
if I would guess JP preferences, it is long hair, no glasses, flat, unnatural hair color
odd geyser
bro just described Hoshino
feral jetty
bro just described hina
odd geyser
odd geyser
I mean, she is not Aris, unless you also want all Game Club
she isn't aris and i'm too poor to give her more yet
hallow plank
https://tenor.com/bdF5A1zwtLc.gif
Konata chan~
odd geyser
its not my fault they stopped all raid coin income!
the lack of GA shop this month gonna ruin me
snow portal
if I would guess JP preferences, it is long hair, no glasses, flat, unnatural ha...
JP loves long straight black hair, lighter skin, slim everywhere except obvious places
Which is part of why Rio is so popular
copper surge
the lack of GA shop this month gonna ruin me
No GA this month???
odd geyser
No GA this month???
copper surge
she isn't aris and i'm too poor to give her more yet
YOU PULLED?
odd geyser
YOU PULLED?
bro I can't with you sometimes
odd geyser
YOU PULLED?
fleet narwhal
😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟 😟
copper crescent
Abydos has nonomi ayane troko left for alts
summer dew
torn thorn
candid gust
thx
odd geyser
even i know dajin is a gdd simp and ive been in this discord like 4 months
gotta raise them all
lilac grove
gotta raise them all
earless twins will be specials confirmed
summer dew
thx
know that sometimes the page bugs out and doesnt show the hotspots or the riddle... it's the same as my office, you need like 0~4 refreshes for it to work lol
fleet narwhal
gotta raise them all
4* 
copper crescent
Moi and Dori
odd geyser
4* <:smhf:1469260131803074592>
I'll give her UE the first raid I use her
probably won't push past UE30 since Yuzu was generous and freed us from the buff retention curse
odd geyser
we f2p and ue60 satsuko
copper crescent
Dajin do u think we'll get Moi and Dori next patch
wicked vine
odd geyser
Dajin do u think we'll get Moi and Dori next patch
I'm skipping AEimi and reading my momos if I have to
candid gust
know that sometimes the page bugs out and doesnt show the hotspots or the riddle...
i got it first try
somehow
fleet narwhal
when are we getting ain sof ohr 
candid gust
unlike my office
snow portal
Looks like this time we're getting extra drained
summer dew
I'm skipping AEimi and reading my momos if I have to
:iroharub:
covert spoke
when are we getting ain sof ohr <:clueless:1031200942722387978>
bad news...
hallow plank
Let me compete!
(How much did you refresh?)
covert spoke
🥹
wicked vine
when are we getting ain sof ohr <:clueless:1031200942722387978>
probably next fest
copper crescent
No story spoiler
fleet narwhal
copper crescent
See pins
hybrid halo
Let me compete!
(How much did you refresh?)
x6 and ||💳 ||
summer dew
copper surge
My (current) plan is to pull Coffee Yuzu, unless Nexon release Kisaki 2.0 or something like that
wicked vine
wtf bro spoiled me
summer dew
@ joexyz denosaur is spoiling us deca story
fleet narwhal
wtf bro spoiled me
in what sense did i spoil you even tf
hybrid halo
wth me always f2p!
copper crescent
Same
hallow plank
x6 and ||💳 ||
odd geyser
wth me always f2p!
wicked vine
in what sense did i spoil you even tf
idk something happens ig
covert spoke
every single student in the roster dies
its really sad
and then theres no more updates
fleet narwhal
eos so soon
copper crescent
Damn
covert spoke
they said its because not enough senseis refreshed on the world event so netzach just absorbed the world
hallow plank
we f2p and ue60 satsuko
I overslept the maintenance and now I have 12x AP packs still lying in the mailbox and a UE50 + 113 S. Atsuko… 
feral jetty
they said its because not enough senseis refreshed on the world event so netzach...
this is what's gonna happen to global servers after they set the HP to be the same as JP
the only surviving server? KR
covert spoke
politics-discussion
copper crescent
Eu is so cooked
copper crescent
Eu has like 10x less players vs jp
astral fern
I don't play whel games, it's your stuff
🦖
Yea you use mirror and 🦖 looks like you
odd geyser
I don't play whel games, it's your stuff
odd geyser
astral fern
odd geyser
||I signed Obese TRex and the slip flipped pink and got AYuzu||
copper crescent
Gpd hall of mirrors
lilac grove
hallo mods
astral fern
||I signed Obese TRex and the slip flipped pink and got AYuzu||
||Deno sponsorship is real||
lilac grove
dajin is hackin the gacha
fallen scroll
chat, who would perform better in set if theres only 1~2 AA students, miyo or ritsu?
odd geyser
I have faith in saiba suit banner in 3 weeks, I need to save pyro
fallen scroll
copper crescent
Moi
copper surge
why tail move
technology
right, the twins are the only ones left without extra skins
copper crescent
Yes
odd geyser
I'm skipping AEimi and reading my momos if I have to
we out here mashing that story skip button like fubuki intended
copper crescent
Idk if the twins will be with Kei in another event or just have their alts now
I'm seeing they'll have their alts soon
copper surge
i think it will be on rerun
west perch
comparing damage numbers like it's their stick down below
copper crescent
Idk why it feels that way but I'm feeling it
odd geyser
swimsuit kei + saiba just feeds into the gomen aris memes and im not having it
copper crescent
So yeah I think Dajin u should prepare for Moi and Dori coming
odd geyser
covert spoke
momoi is foreshadowing
copper crescent
Moi and Dori will come trust
covert spoke
one who knows nothing -> achieve nirvana -> sage mode momoi
copper crescent
Coincidence
fallen scroll
chat, who would perform better in set if theres only 1~2 AA students, miyo or ri...
chat i need help with this
copper crescent
They attack, forget they attacked you, they see ur team and think they win, so they attack again
copper crescent
I would think miyo depending on how the 2 aa compare to each other
feral jetty
why did this guy wait 3 hours between attacks
mind games
they gotta keep your team guessing
copper crescent
If 1 aa does double the dmg of the other aa, ritsu probably better
feral jetty
they let their guard down thinking "oh it's been 3 hours surely they won't attack again" and then bam
odd geyser
given these options, I'd attack 26 tbh
copper surge
why did this guy wait 3 hours between attacks
sometimes I do one attack to collect rewards, and do the rest near claim
feral jetty
oh yup that's kaiten moods on beimi
SS urban B outdoor
seems like a pretty weird kit for kaiten though
for p1 the problem is that it's ST and for p2 the problem is that it's AA damage
which isn't ideal for part breaking
copper crescent
Im thinking she's for new frr raid and so is byuzu
feral jetty
beimi and byuzu don't synergize at all though
copper crescent
Byuzu could go on the other 5 strikers ig
obsidian heath
@covert spoke if the kiss comp doesn't work they'll find another way
there are too many ways to potentially do this
summer dew
what the hell are you cooking
old rose
summer dew
mood
obsidian heath
there was a case being made on gph that alice potentially onetapping shiro isn't that big of a deal
echo oar
HOLD THE PHONE
summer dew
mmh yeah doesn't that need shit ton amount of time to prep and impractical as f
west perch
I don't mind this, but what the hell was up with comparing her and dhina earlier?
echo oar
don't misrepresent the argument!
copper crescent
No verdict other than super good for aaris and smika
echo oar
I just meant dhina was THE powercreep for red, and aaris isn't leaps and bounds above her in terms of effectiveness
fallen scroll
Guys how we feel about b yuzu
seia but is cracked and takes up special slot instead
echo oar
she's still big powercreep too! but I just think people are overstating it
copper crescent
The other use cases need testing to see if they're actually good where we think they might be good
odd geyser
4 cost ex down 3 times
you dont actually save much cost over other cost savers in most cases. It seems most powerful when the student has natural redraw
fallen scroll
copper surge
BEimi is Red / Red right?
copper crescent
Yesp
west perch
she's still big powercreep too! but I just think people are overstating it
audiens, you wanna look at chokmah in the eyes and say that again?
opaque dagger
mmh yeah doesn't that need shit ton amount of time to prep and impractical as f
Might be viable now with Yuzu Armed 
summer dew
Guys how we feel about b yuzu
it's role compression, similarly to nyfuuka but with atk, except the buff works bit differently (= you cant override it unless mid animation)
fallen scroll
audiens, you wanna look at chokmah in the eyes and say that again?
F124 clears existing might be a problem 
covert spoke
audiens, you wanna look at chokmah in the eyes and say that again?
frr not a real mode
odd geyser
Wait b yuzu attack up is stackable?
no
summer dew
it's direct applied from ex, assumedly proven
west perch
proven*
frail glen
Oh i guess i read that message wrong
fallen scroll
the plain ol awful Ui's dmg buff remains
copper surge
you dont actually save much cost over other cost savers in most cases. It seems ...
but you also give a (small) buff. Do a rotation with Fuuka, one without her, the diff is stark
copper crescent
I was gonna say maybe until they add someone like rio but redraw twice then byuzu is must have but I doubt they'll do that
obsidian heath
we probably react this way because she came out at the same time as kei
dhina came out 1.5y after shosh
odd geyser
man the quick claim AP on jp was removed
obsidian heath
so the powercreep is so immense
copper crescent
Bruh
feral jetty
you dont actually save much cost over other cost savers in most cases. It seems ...
without redraw you're probably gonna be doing funny rotations where you buff 3 students lol
copper surge
man the quick claim AP on jp was removed
quick claim?
odd geyser
but you also give a (small) buff. Do a rotation with Fuuka, one without her, the...
nyfuuka crit dmg buff was always cope
copper crescent
But like, if they make double redraw buffers a thing, then byuzu would be rly good
odd geyser
quick claim?
extra tab to get to free ap
copper surge
nyfuuka crit dmg buff was always cope
its a 2-cost buff bro
fallen scroll
nyfuuka crit dmg buff was always cope
miniscule but cutting cost for a redraw aint that bad ig
opaque dagger
without redraw you're probably gonna be doing funny rotations where you buff 3 s...
Or you could do
Yuzu -> A -> B -> C -> D -> DPS -> A -> B -> C -> D -> DPS -> A -> B -> C -> D -> DPS
frail glen
without redraw you're probably gonna be doing funny rotations where you buff 3 s...
Now we just need to cope the gamer twins to have force redraw mechanic
odd geyser
its a 2-cost buff bro
yeah, I'm saying it was never the main appeal
copper crescent
Now we just need to cope the gamer twins to have force redraw mechanic
They might tbh bc gdd synergy
west perch
Or you could do
Yuzu -> A -> B -> C -> D -> DPS -> A -> B -> C -> D -> DPS -> A ...
It's just way too unrealistic of a rotation when raids have specific timers where mechanics need to be met
odd geyser
It's like using Ui for the attack buff
untold tusk
I wouldn't recommend most people to pull her except for maybe <@1117220613317214...
I decided on being costdownless
frail glen
It's just way too unrealistic of a rotation when raids have specific timers wher...
Jp bro will figure something iut
fallen scroll
tbf it aint that bad
copper crescent
It's just way too unrealistic of a rotation when raids have specific timers wher...
But also if someone can slot in those timings then it'd be good and hw makers seem to be good at doing that
west perch
Jp bro will figure something iut
when Ui came out, we didn't use her all the time either
copper crescent
Yeah
opaque dagger
It's just way too unrealistic of a rotation when raids have specific timers wher...
I mean, that's the whole point, using Yuzu once early on means you probably have room to fulfill raid mechanics in upcoming cycles
copper crescent
I rarely use ui nowadays
frail glen
when Ui came out, we didn't use her all the time either
If need more time, just ue 60 special for 11 cost
opaque dagger
I have had problems where first cycle I can fulfill raid mechanics, but I cannot cycle back in time on 2nd cycle
simple zinc
opaque dagger
This potentially solves it
copper crescent
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1340287886305660998/im...
Hi Kazama
simple zinc
Hi bob
odd geyser
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1340287886305660998/im...
one day, I will be able to compete...
copper crescent
This potentially solves it
Yeah the implications of byuzu has yet to be discovered
summer dew
i think the use cases outside from being b.aris/smeeka slave are still very small
frail glen
I have had problems where first cycle I can fulfill raid mechanics, but I cannot...
I think, didnt do the math yet, s nagisa prob can help you do second ex faster?
simple zinc
one day, I will be able to compete...
My alt cant event compet with your main ssg
copper crescent
Byuzu is too complicated to speculate all her uses from just looking at the kit
fallen scroll
prolly heavy synergies between battlesuited GDD
simple zinc
Ia this yuzu btw
odd geyser
My alt cant event compet with your main ssg
did you mix my alt with your main
copper surge
Ui was more important pre energy gen
west perch
I have had problems where first cycle I can fulfill raid mechanics, but I cannot...
It's the classic
"Why do I pull nyfuuka when I have Ui?"
odd geyser
Ui was more important pre energy gen
ui was important post cost sub
copper crescent
Yeah i was like "don't u mean my main can't even compete with ur alt ssg"
simple zinc
did you mix my alt with your main
Yah
copper surge
ui was important post cost sub
Cost sub is what I call energy gen
fallen scroll
It's the classic
"Why do I pull nyfuuka when I have Ui?"
the same applies to b.yuzu with ny.fuuka/seia too
untold tusk
Although if BYuzu was a striker cost down then I might have rolled
frail glen
Time to add another 24k pyro to the planner
copper surge
wait, nm
frail glen
odd geyser
Cost sub is what I call energy gen
frail glen
Mika terror confirmed?
simple zinc
one day, I will be able to compete...
This remin me i built myuzu for raid yesterday
copper surge
Ui + Mika is, perhaps, what made Ui famouis
copper crescent
Yes
fallen scroll
This remin me i built myuzu for raid yesterday
T3 watch
covert spoke
hes baiting do not fall for it
fallen scroll
covert spoke
damn too slow
fallen scroll
i fell for it
covert spoke
we f2p are here to stay
copper surge
But with Seia, I am only using Ui for memes now
simple zinc
hes baiting do not fall for it
Can you see yellow dot. Not bait
odd geyser
This remin me i built myuzu for raid yesterday
This remin me i built ayuzu for raid hours ago
copper surge
how big is Yuzu attack at ue30?
simple zinc
This remin me i built ayuzu for raid hours ago
What she do
copper crescent
Wait guys i got idea
covert spoke
im sorry dajin..
odd geyser
What she do
Ui powercreep (real)
copper crescent
What if new raid has buttons like deca skills but has cost
covert spoke
its my fault for reminding nexon of byuzu stat transfer... she was gonna be 9700 atk before that
simple zinc
Ui powercreep (real)
Damn what happen to seia
fallen scroll
What she do
x3 halving cost, and Ui's dmg buff for a total of 4 cost
copper crescent
So like u buff an object to use its skills against the boss
odd geyser
Damn what happen to seia
binah lunatic killing her
copper crescent
And the object uses the deca skills slots
copper surge
This remin me i built ayuzu for raid hours ago
4600 atk feels quite low
simple zinc
Then why tf did they waste seia with such a lame skillset
copper crescent
Then byuzu would be core or smth
odd geyser
4600 atk feels quite low
she's 4*
I'll give her UE30 when I use her in raid! cope for lessons for now
fallen scroll
4600 atk feels quite low
its only 4*
odd geyser
she doesn't have buff retention UE40 so UE30 is the stopping point for invest. No rush
fallen scroll
Then why tf did they waste seia with such a lame skillset
simple zinc
x3 halving cost, and Ui's dmg buff for a total of 4 cost
Wouldnt 3x be difficult to cycle
covert spoke
its low
copper surge
Someone inspect a big Yuzu on borrow, pls
fallen scroll
Wouldnt 3x be difficult to cycle
yeah its just shoving her cost downs into all students atp
copper surge
I'd be surprised if she hit 6k at ue30
odd geyser
Then why tf did they waste seia with such a lame skillset
I'm shitposting btw. Seia is still the best in yellow if you can keep her alive
fallen scroll
the cost refund is lit too
simple zinc
I'm shitposting btw. Seia is still the best in yellow if you can keep her alive
Seia took job of both ui and s.ui.....so pro
odd geyser
I think binah lunatic might mean we're finally doing double mika brainrot
covert spoke
will be tough
copper surge
Seia took job of both ui and s.ui.....so pro
dual-lane robbery
simple zinc
Wouldnt 3x be difficult to cycle
What aboit dis
odd geyser
and AYuzu is here to support it
shrewd mirage
Binah is out?
copper crescent
Yes
feral jetty
next week
copper surge
poor sui's getting beaten up nowadays
It's ok, there is always taem 5
fallen scroll
50k hp for her feels like thin paper against water somehow
copper crescent
I was surprised too
shrewd mirage
Cool
copper crescent
But sui def gonna be used for binah i dont doubt
feral jetty
I was surprised too
we are NEVER getting luna kaiten at this rate
covert spoke
luna kaiten literally the enxt luna
copper crescent
Imagine they made it the very last raid
covert spoke
(its urban)
odd geyser
i wonder if i can do luna binah on jp ngl
opaque dagger
The one that is really nowhere in sight is Luna Chesed
copper crescent
I doubt
odd geyser
bob
fallen scroll
What aboit dis
shes mainly used for students who can instantly redraw their cards, or to run with 1-2 strikers team
covert spoke
(greg will be the only indoor red luna)
feral jetty
dajin did you see that qtomoe might be human rights for luna binah?
shrewd mirage
Damn it's 3 skills 
copper crescent
Yeah
shrewd mirage
Is that for like wet mika
feral jetty
copper surge
Maybe Nexon does not know how to raise the mobs health, but make old students like Momoi still relevant
odd geyser
and yes, I spooked xserina on yuzu banner
copper crescent
Dajin is so stacked on def down holy
copper surge
Dajin is so stacked on def down holy
The power of wh.... I mean, an adult.
odd geyser
dajin did you see that qtomoe might be human rights for luna binah?
I was saying this before her banner btw
odd geyser
I ran this test before. You can apply def down while putting tank in safespot
shrewd mirage
3 skill sounds kinda awkward for most team ngl
copper crescent
Until I see binah stats im not gonna bet if u can clear luna binah or not
shrewd mirage
What team has 3 strikers that want cost reduction
odd geyser
3 skill sounds kinda awkward for most team ngl
most useful for students who naturally redraw or if you're using every other skill anyway
copper crescent
3 skill sounds kinda awkward for most team ngl
Mostly smika aaris for now
3 cost down rotation is a field yet to be explored
odd geyser
The power of wh.... I mean, an adult.
wtf I got via fes, not whale!
copper surge
Binah will be
Team 1 Mika
Team 2 Neru
Team 3 ?
copper crescent
Mika
odd geyser
Team 1 Mika
Team 2 Mika
copper crescent
I mean who else
odd geyser
AYuzu is here to support the Mika agenda
copper crescent
Idk if neru or mika is gonna be team 2
odd geyser
Mika loses power as the fight goes on
copper surge
Maybe people will sandbag P1 with weaker teams, and use Mika for transition
copper crescent
True tbh
shrewd mirage
Is outdoor right?
odd geyser
but I think she'll be preferred over Neru when possible b/c of armor
covert spoke
u fail to consider the iwak myuzu triple dps team
copper crescent
Wat
copper surge
If we need 2 Mikas to get him to half health, no way Neru will be able to finish the job
copper crescent
I think 2 mika brings him to 2/3 tbh
feral jetty
xerina byuzu triple dps team
shrewd mirage
Greedy
copper surge
Maybe it will be
Team 1 good no fest
Team 2 Mika
Team 3 Neru
Team 4 Neru (borrow)
Team 5 body throws?
copper crescent
Is double mika or double uneru better 🤔
covert spoke
snonomi byosh msuzumi shoshi team
snow portal
Is double mika or double uneru better 🤔
Do you want to crit mald or not
copper surge
if we need double Mika because he has too much HP, there is no way a single Neru can do the rest
copper crescent
Mika it is
odd geyser
Is double mika or double uneru better 🤔
If we're ever forced to tank a special, Mika
shrewd mirage
Double Maki again trust
covert spoke
🙏
copper crescent
Binah is probably more like peroro
odd geyser
Maki does like 11m tops right
copper surge
its not like we can field 10 teams on Binah. We need survival and def down too
copper crescent
Im thinking like 8 team clears
copper surge
I mean, we can field 10 teams but they do pitiful dmg
odd geyser
didnt maki do like 14m
I'm genuinely asking tbh
covert spoke
i might be rounding up but i remember she did more than half tor
shrewd mirage
Wonder what takane userate will be
untold tusk
I upgraded Maki to skills 5/M/7/7 is that fine or did I upgrade too much
exotic dawn
Im thinking like 8 team clears
Maybe more, since everyone might gonna die very soon to missle before can deal much dmg
copper crescent
I upgraded Maki to skills 5/M/7/7 is that fine or did I upgrade too much
It's much but not too much
covert spoke
missiles are changed
copper surge
Who are the best non-fest DPS for Binah? Kazuza?
covert spoke
shiyori by a mile
copper crescent
Yeah
obsidian heath
yellow armor
copper crescent
And dkayoko
covert spoke
the struggle is if she lives
copper crescent
We make her live
covert spoke
she lives with broko assuming lun has +10k over tor
shrewd mirage
What happened to missile
copper surge
No way DKayoko is usable between missile and sandstorm
copper crescent
Dkayoko is like 64% def ignore
opaque dagger
Actually, real question
feral jetty
i hope they don't give luna binah yellow eff
covert spoke
they dont need to
feral jetty
let broko thrive
opaque dagger
What tf do we even do against sandstorm ATG
ATG does not reset on Binah when you groggy
copper crescent
Missiles do 900% to nearest target to binah 450% to the 2 next closest, and 300% to the furthest
I think u just tank sandstorm
opaque dagger
Feels like you just die to sandstorm after missiles anyway
copper surge
Just use Utaha, confuse snakes with drones
copper crescent
Doesn't hurt as much as missiles
shrewd mirage
Lol forced tank now
polar orbit
they haven't unconvered lunatic stats yet have they
copper crescent
No
feral jetty
Feels like you just die to sandstorm after missiles anyway
you're not gonna be cancelling everything
shrewd mirage
No more Mika tanking xd
covert spoke
the rewording on missiles makes them seem to not get distracted
feral jetty
on the first torment binah people were tanking either 2 sandstorm or 2 missiles on mika team
copper crescent
Imagine getting to groggy so many times u cancel everything
feral jetty
depending on how much time they were willing to spend on building groggy
copper surge
I think we can make 5 real Binah teams with proper buffs and debuffs. Maybe 6 if you have a stacked account.
feral jetty
if you're at the point where you're cancelling every binah AoE
copper crescent
Yes
opaque dagger
So the superteam must be all red armor, basically
feral jetty
you're already at the point where you're speedrunning it
feral jetty
So the superteam must be all red armor, basically
yeah
opaque dagger
And healer probably needed, no?
copper crescent
Not necessarily with the new cover change imo
covert spoke
uneru is honorary red armor
copper crescent
The cover change might let u send in 1-2 blue/purple armors
feral jetty
yeah that's true
shrewd mirage
Does cover tank the sandstorm now?
copper crescent
No
shrewd mirage
Second one
copper crescent
Cover makes them take -50% dmg
shrewd mirage
Isn't that just worse
opaque dagger
Which will be a giant problem if your students don't take cover
copper crescent
Yes
copper surge
Mika
Neru
(borrow)
Kazuza
Kayoko
feral jetty
Isn't that just worse
no it essentially makes them red armor if they take neutral damage
though it might be balanced around red armor also getting the 50% dmg reduction
shrewd mirage
Yeah but before it would block all damage
feral jetty
but the point is that if they're in the back
copper crescent
But it also enables more teams overall
feral jetty
they're not blocking anyway
odd geyser
the cover was 1 time use before
copper crescent
Before it would block all dmg
shrewd mirage
So it doesn't break now?
opaque dagger
the cover was 1 time use before
Nah on Ins, it tanks 2 AA I think
copper crescent
It doesn't break now
opaque dagger
So it doesn't break now?
Not unless you break it yourself
copper crescent
Well if they take cover then they block all dmg if cover rolls block
If not take cover then they die
feral jetty
it's a buff to your survivability because the ones in the back weren't gonna be blocking any of binah's attacks anyway
opaque dagger
Well if they take cover then they block all dmg if cover rolls block
Cover does not block attacks anymore in Binah iirc
Like in Chokmah
copper surge
Look at all the DPS we can't use....
copper crescent
Now they don't block anymore
covert spoke
marina will see use
odd geyser
Nah on Ins, it tanks 2 AA I think
I think you might be thinking of a student running to a different cover to block multiple hits
covert spoke
she is hasumi upgrade
opaque dagger
I think you might be thinking of a student running to a different cover to block...
Let me check my vod
summer dew
copper surge
I forgot Kayuza is yellow, so dunno what to put in her place
copper crescent
Look at all the DPS we can't use....
Broko can make one of them live
odd geyser
Look at all the DPS we can't use....
its the same as its always been tbh
covert spoke
hasumi was core groggy setup...
odd geyser
use them for a quick burst or get creative
copper surge
its the same as its always been tbh
You think we would have more options by now
summer dew
hi avren
feral jetty
kazusa doesn't take cover so she doesn't get the 50% dmg reduction either...
copper crescent
That's why she gets broko
covert spoke
shiyori gets broko
copper crescent
Oh
odd geyser
although, I think I had some unhinged strats involving Iori/Kasumi tanking a hit behind cover - baiting the laser, and running to new cover
copper crescent
What the f
copper crescent
Oh that
copper surge
https://tenor.com/view/%EB%B8%94%EB%A3%A8%EC%95%84%EC%B9%B4-%EC%9D%B4%EC%98%A4%E...
ty sir
feral jetty
Oh that
no not that i was giving the gif to nerfnow
it doesn't have anything to do with what dajin said
odd geyser
What the f
shrewd mirage
Those weren't actual strats were they 
opaque dagger
There's going to be a lot of science behind Binah Luna teams 👀
shrewd mirage
Wasn't it just for a meme clip
copper crescent
Techniques
odd geyser
Those weren't actual strats were they <:Natsus:1328281593059741697>
I'm talking about groggy trim strats at least
copper surge
maybe there is one team using Utaha and Miyu out there, but feels more like an extra team, not a real one
covert spoke
chare bunker strat was common
feral jetty
are you kidding me
shrewd mirage
I mean of that iori clip
opaque dagger
Real talk tho, how much HP you guys predicting Luna Binah to be
copper crescent
Binah teams might end up with so much variety
opaque dagger
Around 60-70m?
feral jetty
nerf what are you talking about
covert spoke
i expect miyu team to do like 14m
feral jetty
are you living in pre-miyu BG era still
odd geyser
maybe there is one team using Utaha and Miyu out there, but feels more like an e...
Miyu was one of my strongest dps pre miyu BG during my first urban tor
copper surge
i expect miyu team to do like 14m
But Miyu is the most common option. Replace her with your favorite Utaha partner.
feral jetty
miyu absolutely destroys your fav
ivory iron
Hmmm, i've decently close to beating challenge 2 on the event 11-12 lvls early (Miyo about halfways, Fuyu almost dead), so while i don't think i'll be able to 3 stars it, i might be able to beat it at all this early at all.
odd geyser
but tbf, I doubt we give her Utaha
torn thorn
shrewd mirage
Maybe we'll see momoi midori bg finally so something
opaque dagger
Actually 60-70m kinda low compared to how much HP bloat most other Lunas had, no?
copper crescent
I'm thinking 90m hp 9500 def
copper surge
but tbf, I doubt we give her Utaha
you prefer to use Utaha to bait missiles?
feral jetty
we're not gonna be slandering miyu in the big 2026
opaque dagger
If we use 4x...it's 92m, so somewhere 90-100m
odd geyser
you prefer to use Utaha to bait missiles?
yes. Neru is enough for Miyu
feral jetty
she's honestly a better pull than kazusa at this point
covert spoke
wording implies missiles seek students
opaque dagger
I'm thinking 90m hp 9500 def
Ok 9500 Def is diabolical
odd geyser
covert spoke
will have to see if that truly is the case
copper crescent
Ok 9500 Def is diabolical
It makes the most sense
If u check the dmg reduction value conversion for def of each diff
There's an obvious trend
copper surge
Do cover count as a target for missile? Like if I have 4 students and a deployable cover, does it count as 5 targets, or the student under cover counts as a single target?
odd geyser
no this isn't chokmah
shrewd mirage
Cover doesn't
opaque dagger
If u check the dmg reduction value conversion for def of each diff
But that's 1900 Def at Def cap, that's still so much Def
copper crescent
Yes
copper crescent
Which is why this is trickier than you initially think
shrewd mirage
feral jetty
did they not remove the ability to avoid missiles entirely?
odd geyser
oh my god
copper crescent
Like, what do we do with that much def remaining
feral jetty
now it says 150% to ALL allies
opaque dagger
Like, what do we do with that much def remaining
I was honestly thinking 8000-8500 Def, just to be equal to Kurokage/slightly higher
shrewd mirage
Wait bruh that's fucked 😔
copper surge
How much dmg Darude does?
feral jetty
300%
odd geyser
I wish I tested more in world raid
copper crescent
Darude unchanged
odd geyser
I was too focused on spending tixs
copper surge
the person in the back... is not taking much dmg
shrewd mirage
Was missile or sandstorm the attack you could pull out of range with repo
I forget
covert spoke
the person in the back... is not taking much dmg
still 300%
odd geyser
copper surge
maybe it can survive with just shield?
opaque dagger
the person in the back... is not taking much dmg
You forgot that Tor Binah has 30k Attack to begin with
odd geyser
now it says 150% to ALL allies
All doesn't matter if it still relies on the old rectangle for targetting
feral jetty
All doesn't matter if it still relies on the old rectangle for targetting
yeah but i'm talking about utaha strats
copper surge
do yellow units have any hope of surviving if you do stuff like Broko?
opaque dagger
What part of Tor Binah is leak
odd geyser
im the one getting punished
feral jetty
bro's living in 2022
covert spoke
do yellow units have any hope of surviving if you do stuff like Broko?
yes
||with chihiro||
copper surge
Dajin is a snitch, villain arc unlocked 😔
copper crescent
I was honestly thinking 8000-8500 Def, just to be equal to Kurokage/slightly hig...
9500 converts to 85% dmg reduction, which is next in line for the 6800 def converting to 80% dr for tor and 5000 def converting to 75% dr for ins, the trend goes like that for all binah diffs
covert spoke
calc the damage reduction after 80% reduction
opaque dagger
1900 is close to 50% Dmg Red, no?
copper surge
Still need to have a decent def down on top of making units survive. If was just surviving it would be less of an issue
copper crescent
-53.27%
opaque dagger
That is awful
copper crescent
So binah takes 0.4673x of dmg
opaque dagger
So fighting a 90m Binah with 9500 Def, assuming you can 80% cap Def Down, is still like fighting a 200m HP Binah
copper crescent
And dkayoko def ignores 64% of that remaining 1900 def
copper surge
Its a pity they decided so early to have a single TS on the field. Rotating S Ayane to summon 2 or 3 choppa would be lit
opaque dagger
Dread it, run from it, Kayoko Dress still arrives
copper surge
I can see DKayoko being used as a core option, but I expect pain
Too much HP, too little students to make viable teams
opaque dagger
I think...if you're doing Luna, you don't even get to choose
copper surge
once your Makis and Akanes are out you start to make cope teams
I stick to the idea we can make perhaps 5 real, viable teams and after that is copeville
I said Kazuza earlier but she is yellow armor so I dont even know who would be the last DPS. OG Neru???
opaque dagger
What if we use wakamo
Who's even gonna fill in the accumulation
copper surge
So it would be
Mika
UNeru
Borrow
OG Neru
DKayoko
Pina or Junko?