💬gameplay-discussion

[frozen chasm]

and you just missed my whole point

[grand anchor]

it's a game, you do you

[feral jetty]

i can't do luna even if i wanted to

i missed too much

[frozen chasm]

the whole point was to not have to do lun cause ins speed runner dont have to do tor

[feral jetty]

and by that i mean mostly seia rio uneru

[lone widget]

true

[feral jetty]

idols

[lone widget]

Lun is pretty out of reach for me for now

[grand anchor]

i can do lun on basically every raid, and i do it, if you can't unlucky

[copper surge]

I'll do Luna as long as I don't need to do stuff like repositioning to a magic pixel, or interrupting skill for a unit to move to a specific spot.

[feral jetty]

i can't do luna because i stopped playing for half a year+

[grand anchor]

not mandatory to do lun anyway

[feral jetty]

which was enough powercreep for me to be unable to compete

[frozen chasm]

bro still missing the point of the convo

[grand anchor]

yeah, we got many powerful units and supports lately

[copper surge]

I don't want to burn out, so I play in a way I find fun, and the whole "crit mald, magic pixel, use skill at 1:25:32 precisely is NOT for me.

[lone widget]

[grand anchor]

as everyone should

[frozen chasm]

try harding in a casual game is lmao

[feral jetty]

i feel like that's more of a torment thing than a luna thing though

all that precise stuff is moreso for when a difficulty becomes easy than when it's hard

[grand anchor]

i was close to a burn out during kurokage lunatic, worst thing ever made

[feral jetty]

i know it sounds weird but it's because you're more focused on just a regular clear when the raid is still hard

[grand anchor]

lun geb i was clearing it constantly even without needing hw, i had a lot of fun with it

[copper surge]

Like, I was playing some this GA chesed and the game "made sense"

You aoe the mobs, you save energy for the core, you burst it when it open, with a good margin of error

I still had to know the mechanics, I still had to think ahead, but I did not need flawless execution

A lot of people who played with those strict mechanics are now absent for the server. You just burn out.

[true shale]

If considering a Luna clear on its debut run, it's fairly likely that this can show up in some capacity too.

[copper surge]

I may try Kurokage Luna

[grand anchor]

it's literally free now

[true shale]

It constitutes a smaller fraction of the overall execution, but it's still present.

[grand anchor]

from hardest to easiest lun

[copper crescent]

Wtf binah came first

[copper surge]

I don't believe on GPD free

Everything is free here.

[west perch]

I did no such thing for luna kkg debut

[supple star]

No fes krkg luna?

[true shale]

We may have to utilitise all means at our disposal to clear the raid.

[feral jetty]

certainly a smaller fraction of the execution than when the raid is easy and people start getting crazy with the TLs

[grand anchor]

the change to the eye mechanic made it soooo free

[true shale]

Good job? Congrats?

[copper surge]

I am more happy we have better h ealing now

[true shale]

Congrats! I think.

[copper surge]

the extra healing from necklace may just be enough for it to be painless

[lone widget]

mleisa

[true shale]

That's true. But don't be under the illusion that it goes away (or even corellates linearly)

[feral jetty]

i don't remember doing anything like that for luna goz either

[west perch]

more healers and no bad eye rng would matter more imo

[feral jetty]

it was fairly consistent overall

i didn't clear but i was missing a lot at the time

i got it down to like 20m hp though at least

[obsidian heath]

goz luna was full of magic pixels

[west perch]

you just reset on bad eye rng if you're doing comfy rotation (which many weren't on tor)

[feral jetty]

yeah i didn't do that

[grand anchor]

that thing was so atrocious and rng that i ended up throwing 10 teams, never cleared in mock, i was close to quit

[copper surge]

Sadly I dont think i got a single new purple DPS for KK

[feral jetty]

it's as simple as not doing the magic pixel stuff and figuring out your own stuff

[true shale]

If you can do it, and it produces benefit, there's no real disadvantage to engaging in higher-precision play.

[copper surge]

wait... is the new renge purple?

[unique marten]

So damm strong

[feral jetty]

srenge? ST purple

[unique marten]

I have no idea

[feral jetty]

designed for yesod

[obsidian heath]

p1 didn't need precise repo but p2 was unforgiving

[copper surge]

ah, she is ST

[feral jetty]

i don't think that's true

not for my runs at least

[obsidian heath]

at least damage was consistent

[feral jetty]

for topscore teams sure but you don't have to do that for a simple clear

[obsidian heath]

AA team dmg averages out, wakamo has consistent damage

[grand anchor]

i had more problems on p1 with the repo because of the teams i was using, and one with qtomoe on p2

[copper surge]

how far are we from KK?

[sly ice]

Can I get a hell yeah?

[true shale]

3 TA seasons away

[grand anchor]

besides one part on the specific qtomoe team i was using and one team 1 with mimori, everything else was ok

[true shale]

Geburah -> Yesod -> Kurokage

[feral jetty]

let me repeat this

[copper surge]

So we have Reisa by that time

[feral jetty]

the magic pixel stuff is not something that you'll see happen on a regular clear

not unless you're copying some bullshit

[true shale]

[copper surge]

I dont know who'll pick on this team but I can surely think of something

[true shale]

We also have Hikari, and T10 2rd slot gear, etc. etc.

A series of power increases have added up.

[copper surge]

i wanted to put Nozmi but she prob die. Maybe Nozomi p1?

[feral jetty]

nozomi vs krkg?

[true shale]

P1/P3 is fine, yeah

[copper surge]

yep

[grand anchor]

no, don't use nozomi for kurokage

[west perch]

but why?

[copper surge]

body throw

[west perch]

are you not doing double shanako?

[feral jetty]

at that point i'm sure someone like even momiji would be better

[grand anchor]

she won't work at all

[west perch]

lacking kikyou?

[true shale]

I think what the others mean is: Start with the main teams/P2 teams, and then work backwards.

[copper surge]

I used all my units on the old KK

[wicked vine]

[grand anchor]

if you need a bodythrow even bhoshi dps is better

[copper surge]

but if I get an extra healer (Reisa) I may need an extra DPS for that team

[sly ice]

Just use Niya I spook her all the time

[west perch]

like what do you even lack to even need cope bodythrow levels

[true shale]

With the level of powercreep, the main teams may do more than you expect this time around.

[old rose]

if you have exhausted your other purple aoes and boshi, you begin using ST dps for bodythrows

[west perch]

I prepped chise, I didn't end up needing her

[copper surge]

or maybe I'l use Reisa on a big boy team

[old rose]

they have the distinct advantage of only needing ST def down

[grand anchor]

it's an easy 2pan

[sly ice]

Got fat stacks in the bank

[wicked vine]

[copper surge]

I am trying to think if I use Hinata or Chise on some body throw

[grand anchor]

team 1 now can do enough damages to get into p2 with a lot of groggy

[true shale]

Explain that to Nerfnow, lol

[west perch]

ok can I ask what your 2 shanako teams are?

[copper surge]

well, I'll think about it when we get there

[pure vessel]

just double shanako + momiji + boshi

ez game

krkg luna free

[west perch]

I'm walking in there expecting to clear like this

[grand anchor]

lun kurokage so free now that you don't actually need all of these copium bodythrows

[copper surge]

The thing I agree is you want to get out of the p2 asap

[true shale]

They improved on the non-C.Sena team as well, in case that's who you are missing.

[pure vessel]

the next krkg is post mreisa too isnt it

[copper surge]

anything else changed out of the eye not repeating?

[west perch]

It is

[grand anchor]

yes

[old rose]

maybe for you 🦖s

[pure vessel]

ez game

[lone widget]

[west perch]

you can mreisa kisaki daru kikyou shoshi even
it's funny

[true shale]

Not on the boss side. We got stronger, and got more students.

[west perch]

We got ue60

we got hikari

ue60 on shanako is ridiculous btw

[copper surge]

The main issue is P2 is hell, so you want to optmize your SHanako teams. I dont think this changed.

[west perch]

You just do 4 shanako groggy and you're good

[grand anchor]

literally given away for free

[copper surge]

But I am pepega so I'll prob not optimize it and be stuck on P2 hell

[true shale]

The extra vertical power gives us a much greater margin for error.

[tall glacier]

[old rose]

this image has 20,000+ eligma spent in it

[pure vessel]

Hey, just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (luna was harder pre mreisa) on the LUNATIC (luna was harder pre mreisa) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (luna was harder) at it, and I'm happy that you've (used mreisa and broken supports) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (luna was harder) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (luna was harder) your teams stuck (luna was harder) together through them all, and you were rewarded for your patience and (mreisa won't be OP next year) tenacity. Congratulations (mreisa is OP right now) once again, and here's to more success in your future (luna used to be harder) endeavors!!!

[copper surge]

Was KK pre t10 gear?

[pure vessel]

pre t10 pre snagisa pre sseia

[true shale]

There was T10 for slot 1 and 2, but not for slot 3

[west perch]

No one's asking you to do 5 shanako perfect groggy
There's even 3 shanako groggy that clears fine

[pure vessel]

I remember t10 being new enough that I didnt have t10 dps gear on anyone except my main dealers

only sparing hairpins for the squishiest units

[true shale]

Don't stress so much. I've compared Kurokage to Binah in the past, which means that it gets powercrept at a similar magnitude to Binah when we get vertical power increases.

[copper surge]

I think hitting correct grog on KK make it easier, you really want to interrupt him. Its the one raid Id prefer to time the mechanic instead of just going by my gut

[pure vessel]

timing the groggy on krkg p2 was really important yes

[copper surge]

but this is mostly for the team who enter him (p1 -> p2 transition)

[pure vessel]

it's less about interrupting and more about having the correct shanako cycle lined up when it pops

[copper surge]

yeah, true

[pure vessel]

because first lunakage was just like

[copper surge]

I failed for a specfic reason. My Daru died, always

[pure vessel]

if you're unlucky you can get confusion anytime

[past spruce]

Hmmm, how much dmg would I lose out if I don't have Mine

[west perch]

perfect groggy or suffer

[past spruce]

For team 1

[true shale]

With the coming Kurokage, the emphasis on defensive groggy timing is much less. It's mostly been overidden by our added damage output.

[west perch]

throw boshi on p1 beforehand

[copper surge]

There was too much dmg when he did the vacuum thing, DAru was not healed enough and the rest is history

[grand anchor]

the restarts because of the random confusions on lunatic... cringe af

[past spruce]

There gonna be the problem of s.seia too

[west perch]

if your main team is setup perfectly, you should be fine

[past spruce]

[west perch]

wait, you're doing hikari p2?

[past spruce]

I don't have Hikari

[lone widget]

how will 3* mine fare tho

[past spruce]

[west perch]

used to be eye mald I think? You'd have to ask dajin

[grand anchor]

she's getting healed, so not a big deal

[lone widget]

alright

i wont have much ligma til dmichi

[west perch]

with new eyes I'm not sure

[lone widget]

welp gonna mock then

[true shale]

It sounds like you're pulling M.Reisa, but beyond that, T10 necklace will go a long way to supporting more potential P2 teams.

It's definitely less scary than it was last time.

[old rose]

directly replacing mine with natsu the team deals ~50m

[past spruce]

I have an empty slot for the s.hanako team so I can use a repo unit so that s.seia moves out of kurokage's attacks

Well, most of them

[copper surge]

I am pulling on that banner, but I am undecided on who.

I want both, but I only have 200 pulls and bad luck

[lone widget]

im going for mreisa

[past spruce]

Hmmm

[grand anchor]

yeah, r13 had mine 3*, very very free

[lone widget]

need a hot striker now

[copper surge]

I like Suzumi, but I think she will be memes

[true shale]

Well, T10 necklace on the old healers is still of value. Do you own C.Sena?

[lone widget]

and leisa is hot

[young lotus]

cat

[copper surge]

Yup. All raised

[past spruce]

Ooh, Kasumi

Hmmm

Can I replace Hikari with C.Hare

[old rose]

no

[true shale]

You should be fine then. She makes a marked difference because of how the team slots line up.

[past spruce]

Oh

[grand anchor]

that's an high score team, not the best for just clearing

[past spruce]

I don't have much options

So I'll try following that tbh

Since I don't have Kikyou

[pure vessel]

nice car but mines better

[feral jetty]

it looks like kokona might be able to more easily survive krkg's aoe now thanks to t10 gear

[pure vessel]

:^)

[feral jetty]

i might not need to do that stupid repos thing anymore

[young lotus]

[true shale]

Oh, did she survive last time? What investment did she need for that?

[past spruce]

For Luna?

[copper surge]

ngl, I liked her repo. It was comfy

[past spruce]

I doubt that tbh

[copper surge]

I think P1 was super simple, no stress

but P1 into P2 team was a pain

[feral jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1402753377846427728/kokona_repos.mp4?ex=698e3ae3&is=698ce963&hm=cc3120c9e1e829043ae96d40651762264bad5359a416ad0ec953addac1996248&

[grand anchor]

nah kokona is never going to survive on lunatic

[true shale]

Okay, you are all talking about the same repos tech, obviously, which I have no idea about.

[west perch]

It's similar for sseia

[past spruce]

Mine ex skill to Kokona before reload

[true shale]

Oh, I see.

[grand anchor]

oh hmm

[copper surge]

oh.. I think I just used Serina (lol) and repo' ed her to the top

[true shale]

Yeah, I was doing something completely different.

[past spruce]

So that Kokona moves away from Kurokage attack range

[feral jetty]

i don't think i saw anyone other than me do that actually

it's something i did for my own clear attempt

[true shale]

I just dragged her with S.Shizuko in a completely different context.

[grand anchor]

right i forgot about that, i even did that on luna

[copper surge]

Sent Kokona to the (xxxx) corner like a bad behaved student

[grand anchor]

but yeah, without that repo she's never going to survive

[summer dew]

punishing your kok

[true shale]

I used that push for Seia (+O.Nodoka), and somebody who was on my team with Utaha basic+ turrets

I forgot who exactly the latter was

[past spruce]

I'll probably have a ue30 Momiji when Kurokage arrives

[feral jetty]

maybe if i can figure out some bullshit i could let sseia survive too and replace reisa

but that seems like some magic pixel bullshit

and i'm not sure it's worth it

when i could probably clear without it

[past spruce]

Most repo can probably do that

[grand anchor]

the thing with sseia is, i think she's going to die at some point on p2

[past spruce]

I might try using Aoba repo

[feral jetty]

she doesn't need to live the whole time

she just needs to live long enough

[copper surge]

I had a team survive the whole duration insde P2 with oNodoka, but I had no DPS worth putting there

[past spruce]

I could also just use I.Mine to repo tbh

[feral jetty]

see that's the funny part actually

[grand anchor]

yeah, i recall seeing a high score with sseia on team 1, 2 mins team or so

[feral jetty]

i don't have imine because i wasn't playing

[copper surge]

Dang, I have PTSD of repoing Mine on Kurokage now

[past spruce]

Rip

[true shale]

If you need to force a P2 team for groggy, then double healer is always an option.

[grand anchor]

mimori maybe?

[feral jetty]

yeah she could work

but then it's not worth it

i'd be losing more damage than i gain from replacing anyone to babysit sseia

[grand anchor]

worst thing is, they're rerunning the idols some weeks after krkg 2

[feral jetty]

i think something like this already works fine enough (ignore investment because i haven't used planner in ages)

[old rose]

literally the week after iirc

[feral jetty]

add some teams inbetween for groggy if needed

i still have ichika, kasumi, oshig, etc

renge too since she has her bg now iirc

[grand anchor]

yeah looks good tbh

[candid gust]

def piercing is def ignore but flat

[gleaming wren]

you guys already know so I'll leave it without caption

[candid gust]

it's just to differ easily

[copper surge]

instead of agonzing with perfect grogs, maybe I'll just do P1 with blue units and just stay "comfy" on p2 with the Shanako teams + Reisa / oNodoka

[onyx swan]

Will the this recruitment ticket be able to use/last in magical banner before it expires?

[feral jetty]

should last, yeah

i think magical banner is in a month

[candid gust]

kurokeke in April?!

😟 😟

[grand anchor]

idk if i should try the mreisa team or the old with csena and rio

[candid gust]

Both work

Mreisa comfy

[grand anchor]

can't scorechase that much without hikari ue40

[candid gust]

?

you don't need ue40 hikari

[marble gust]

one of the visual bugs

[grand anchor]

i heard she's needed for the highest score runs

[lone widget]

fund me for my mleisa pull peavy

[candid gust]

wrong

[lone widget]

[candid gust]

it's csena

👨‍🦲

[grand anchor]

already have csena

[candid gust]

with that sseia mine imari team 1

ultra bad

and bald

i need to build csena

guh

[grand anchor]

since i cleared the first lun krkg already, of course mine is already builded and ue40

[candid gust]

🛐

imma scorechase

Free 2 digits

[lone widget]

ssg

[grand anchor]

single digit also not too hard

[lone widget]

🦖

[grand anchor]

double digit ultra free

[copper surge]

I dont think I ever regretted investing on a healer. They are some of the safest invest in BA

[west perch]

for EU

asia single digit is where the tryhards gather

[frozen chasm]

which is kinda funny since healer is like the last investment you want to do since you'd go no healer if you can help it

[west perch]

I have fallen completely for striker healer propaganda

[frozen chasm]

also

gph dead for 30m

[true shale]

In general, I think most raids tried to go for no tank before no healer

[frozen chasm]

discord killed it

[west perch]

srs?

[true shale]

Tell them to come here

[copper surge]

Some raids require healers (Hiero, Kurokage)
Other healers are good because they do stuff (IMari, Kokona)
And sometimes you need your units to not die

Unlike DPS, I always go back to using old healers, even veterans like Serina and Hanae

in contrast, some DPS are already filling for retirement now imbAris exist

Maybe one day I'll have so many healers the old invests will be outdated but this day has not come

[true shale]

Wait a second, this was Luna right? Do you remember what this team was?

[copper surge]

Cherino, oNodoka, Marina, Momiji...

it was pretty much a red winter team

[west perch]

2 badge units

[true shale]

Marina P2... Okay, that was probably my oversight.

Do you remember the rest though?

[strange ridge]

CM Arcie stream
One last pull she said
SSR
G. Pina
Lets go Arcie!

[copper surge]

give me a sec

[wanton pilot]

[true shale]

Also did you tank the shadows? Or kill? Or push/dodge?

[atomic arrow]

[lone widget]

nyacari

[wanton pilot]

this hw is supposed to clear f117 but I realized it needs ue40 nykayoko after trying for 2 hours and did f109

[true shale]

I tried to design an O.Nodoka solo-heal P2 team that season, but I couldn't work it out

[lone widget]

surely next selector

[wanton pilot]

[lone widget]

[simple igloo]

first time i got triple purple

[copper surge]

Marina is part of the Cherino engine, I only wanted the extra energy I believe

[simple igloo]

will i get targeted if i dont have ue specials in r100s

[midnight river]

Huh I thought you were 🦖

[frozen chasm]

depends on bracket

[simple igloo]

would you target me if i dont have ue specials

[lone widget]

maybe

[simple igloo]

steam migrant here

[lone widget]

[midnight river]

🐍

[copper surge]

@true shale I may have used Kotama (atk down)

[simple igloo]

the r99 i won was a 3* 4* special guy btw

[copper surge]

The last one may or may not been Kasumi.

[simple igloo]

i was so lucky when i got mika 1st ex and she gets killed so i got kuroko 2nd card as 1st card procc

[true shale]

I understand. I overlooked that Marina had the potential to survive in P2 at all.
I don't think I used her at all, or if I did, it was a P1 bodythrow team.

[true shale]

But probably yellow defence + 550 range, you think?

Not in the skill cycle, I guess, since you don't remember?

[edgy widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282515026803949579/1417833235181998182/icon_38.gif

[simple igloo]

hello spectator

[copper surge]

I think it was Kotama (3) - Kasumi (4) - Momiji (4)- oShig (5)- repeat. It was a pretty dumb team, and very costly.

by the time I was back to oShig, she would be fading

[true shale]

Wait a sec, O.Shigure? Or O.Nodoka?

[copper surge]

oShig

I did not had oNodoka at the time

[true shale]

Oh, O.Shigure. I thought you meant O.Nodoka.

[edgy widget]

the goz appears

[simple igloo]

would be cool if 1 of the mods is forced to provide an id after all the other verification failed

[copper surge]

Sorry, if I said that, it was my bad.

[true shale]

That's okay. No harm done! Thanks for your time all the same!

[pure vessel]

guys

very important question

is yoshimi a tsun or a gaki

[summer dew]

not sure, ask kanon

[true shale]

I vote "Tsun"

[round kayak]

what does gaki mean

[snow portal]

She's literally the classic twintails tsundere

[round kayak]

[summer dew]

brat

[true shale]

She has "Gaki" elements too, but less so

[round kayak]

Ah both then

[pure vessel]

see I thought she was tsun too

[lone widget]

tsun

[true shale]

I think the "Tsun" is much more central to her character dynamics

[lone widget]

she isnt really gaki for me

[restive kraken]

She is 100% not gaki

[lone widget]

more like a tsun tsun

[round kayak]

Is she

[true shale]

There's also the fact that her "Gaki" side is inevitably in contention with Natsu's behaviour

[restive kraken]

She’s a very good girl

[round kayak]

Guess my perspective is a little different

[lone widget]

gaki is mutsuki

[round kayak]

but the tsun is 100%

[summer dew]

mutsu and nozomi are prime examples of gakis

[restive kraken]

Mutsuki is also a good girl but yeah she’s a little devious and more of a gaki

[restive kraken]

Hikari is a gaki, Nozomi on the otherhand has her caring side

[pure vessel]

but someone brought up that she's not very tsun and she doesn't have a lot of dere moments either, she just more or less is acting her age

[true shale]

You'd have to decide whether you think Yoshimi would behave differently if Natsu were not present to take the lead

[summer dew]

hmm

[marble gust]

tsungaki

[frail glen]

mutsuki is more on the side of Imp

[round kayak]

puberty hits hard

[frail glen]

know the difference between gaki and imp!

[round kayak]

[pure vessel]

Id say iori is the classical tsundere

[summer dew]

well both are bratty enough to be gaki in my book

[true shale]

That's reasonable. It doesn't really come out that much.

[restive kraken]

Not really

[lone widget]

hikari is homete homete~

[round kayak]

Hikari is just uhh

[true shale]

For me the most "Tsun" moment from Yoshimi is one of the lobby greetings of her band alt

[frail glen]

Neru is more tsundere imo

[true shale]

That's extra extra Tsun

[restive kraken]

Hikari and Nozomi are too different, Hikari just does whatever she wants

[frail glen]

I think you are thinking about nozomi

[pure vessel]

like yoshimi being angy mode isnt the same as iori being ticked off at you

[frail glen]

Hikari is the quieter one

[pure vessel]

the dynamic with yoshimi is more or less teasing and reacting

[true shale]

No, that's just her having a shorter temper, imo.

[pure vessel]

her angy mode is a short reaction not a regular state of being

[true shale]

The Tsun elements are more far more subtle

[lone widget]

sunshine

[true shale]

One could argue that "Tsun" only applies to an unrealistic level of shyness/defensiveness, perhaps?

In which case Yoshimi may well not qualify

[restive kraken]

Whats that got to do with Hikari doing whatever she wants

[past spruce]

Is there a kurokage Luna comp with s.hanako m.reisa as main team?

[restive kraken]

Hikari is definitely the stinky brat of the twin

[summer dew]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-shupogaki-tachibana-hikari-button-pressing-gif-12138609800714363229

[frail glen]

I would argue she is too innocent to know what she is actually doing

[round kayak]

https://youtu.be/B6DCacezMNM?si=bknHcY6VPoMXpFVv

[frail glen]

nozomi on the other hand

[round kayak]

[restive kraken]

That does not stop her from being a brat….?

[frail glen]

everytime I see a s hanako I am reminded me don't have her

[restive kraken]

I didn’t know a stupid brat needed to be intentional

[round kayak]

Wait does main team mean that shanako team is on groggy right?

[lone widget]

mostly yeh, they tickle u off intentionally

hikari is more on a carefree side

[true shale]

I interpret "gaki" as having an element of 'stirring', but I'm not sure tbh. That's just me.

[pure vessel]

but back to yoshimi

she's not actually tsundere but just short fused

meanwhile she has a bunch of teasing bratty moments

[true shale]

I think she's tsundere

[pure vessel]

like stealing your dessert in her bg momo

[summer dew]

edge case but more on the tsun side

[true shale]

It's not her whole character, of course

[copper surge]

She is tsun. She even has twintails

[true shale]

Which is probably what's so nice about it.

[restive kraken]

you could call anyone a gaki, it just means to be a fucking brat

[pure vessel]

I've been convinced ngl I don't think yoshimi really fits a tsun archetype anymore

[past spruce]

Kikyou again....

[pure vessel]

she's too friendly and close to you to be a tsun

[past spruce]

I'll try cooking with Kasumi

[copper surge]

but BA is a 5-years old game, and she is based on the old tsun archetype

Same way Mashiro whole personality is the meme "flat is justice"

BA devs are old farts

[true shale]

Uh, wait. Does "brat" not come with a connotation of 'misbehaviour' to you?

[round kayak]

Pretty impossible to remove kikyou in the main team due to her role compression

[tender olive]

Who's this?

[round kayak]

Rabu

[past spruce]

Rabu

[lone widget]

Gabu

[tender olive]

When is her banner?

[young lotus]

weebs

[pure vessel]

the dynamic you have with yoshimi is closer to mutual teasing

[young lotus]

[lone widget]

welfare

[round kayak]

Your favourite NPC boss for like 4 years

[past spruce]

She's welfare

[round kayak]

[restive kraken]

Yes, but it’s just a brat in English

[past spruce]

On Magical Girls

[lone widget]

a cutie

[tender olive]

Rabu regular?

[restive kraken]

Basically what Hikari does…

[lone widget]

glad i can take her home now

[young lotus]

Nozomi is the better twin

[summer dew]

better, shes freeeeee if you dont miss the event

[young lotus]

Hikari annoying AF

[marble gust]

lmao

[marble gust]

hate they made her free but we take it ig

[true shale]

To me, "misbehaviour" implies motive.

[restive kraken]

Hikari is cute so we forgive her

[frozen chasm]

uhhh no, she knows, she just doesnt care

hikari is smart as hell

shes just not using it

[lone widget]

[true shale]

(This is really getting into the semantics though, so it's kind of superfluous at this point....)

[tender olive]

Oh i see.. Thats why i can't see her on future banner list in the internet lol

[restive kraken]

A little lost in context and my wording is off, so I apologize if thats what you’re confused about, but basically what I mean is Hikari doesnt mean to be ill

Just that she does whatever she likes

[true shale]

So is she still described as "gaki" in your book, despite that?

[young lotus]

I'll just say if I started acting like Hikari I'd get slapped across the face

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1350056329116385320/1471331729867538536/gif.gif

gosh i like those gifs

so cute

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796251250827329536/1468224682963763261/HAOQwffbYAAsVcG.gif

[supple star]

Rabu is from trinity right?

[candid gust]

ye

[restive kraken]

You are right in how misbehaviour often has the motive to do the action itself, rather than something unconscious

[round kayak]

Gomen arisu summons dajin

[summer dew]

ye

[supple star]

oh man

more trinity mats to farm

[copper surge]

guy, I did it, F97 with no stress.

[candid gust]

doesn't dajin like both

[restive kraken]

But the unconscious part is probably more on how they dont pay attention to how other’s are affected by their misdoings

[candid gust]

you can't gomen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1350056329116385320/1471331729867538536/gif.gif

[restive kraken]

In Hikari’s case, she’s just pretty much harmless

For most part

[round kayak]

It's more of the phrase leaving aris out

[lone widget]

hikari is just carefree

[restive kraken]

Although Aoba probably doesnt enjoy how they are

[round kayak]

[summer dew]

still a brat 💢

[true shale]

Oh uh... I was expecting a y/n answer? That wasn't meant to be a rhetorical question, sorry.

[lone widget]

Aoba is a special case ye

[true shale]

I just want your opinion

[lone widget]

[restive kraken]

Tldr yes shes a brat

[true shale]

JP is not my 1st language etc etc.

[restive kraken]

Has been said at the start

[lone widget]

peak welfare anw

[true shale]

I see I see

[candid gust]

amashizo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1350056329116385320/1471331729867538536/gif.gif

[true shale]

Thanks for teaching me!

[lone widget]

ngl kei is more wifey than arisu

[round kayak]

Is tsubaki enough for a wanpan in P2 tor yesod

rabu looking to expensive to build for me

[candid gust]

uh yes...?

Rabu isn't that expensive

[round kayak]

oh sweet

[true shale]

So is there a different phrase they use for what I had in mind then?

[candid gust]

it's just she is trinity

[lone widget]

just 6x4x easy

[restive kraken]

Dunno what you mean

[lone widget]

[round kayak]

Yeah that's the point

[candid gust]

they are all the same

[pure vessel]

white is the color of gomen

[restive kraken]

In short Gaki = brat

[summer dew]

haniwa t4 dolls t3?

[lone widget]

nuh uh

[round kayak]

I'm not whel as you whelshiro

[lone widget]

arisu is more daughteru

kei is more mature

[pure vessel]

I want to squish kei

squishable

[lone widget]

therefore kei more wifey

[pure vessel]

fondle the kei

[round kayak]

The trinity mats gets drained by mreisa, and I'm switching to saving for millennium fest and Luna krkg

[true shale]

What do they say to describe a brat which unambiguously infers intent? Is there a similar word for that?

[round kayak]

no room for rabu

[true shale]

Like the murder/manslaughter relationship, if that helps explain

[lone widget]

i dont think rabu will need that much tho

[summer dew]

fair. im dried on trinity also so rabu will sit homeless for a quite while

[lone widget]

[restive kraken]

I dunno what you’re looking for

Not sure if it gets that complicated

[tall glacier]

raidless

[restive kraken]

Saying “kuso gaki” in japanese is equivalent to you cursing “goddamn brats”

[true shale]

Okay, that's fine. Thank you still

[restive kraken]

So take that into consideration for what the gaki is

[lone widget]

besides the shop should sell some trinity mats no?

[tall glacier]

you mean like how nemugaki is sleepy brat

[odd geyser]

[true shale]

My JP is not as good as I'd like it to be, etc. etc.

[pure vessel]

the sound of the police

woop woop

[round kayak]

How much per minimum

[lone widget]

beat me

im also asking

[round kayak]

[lone widget]

[round kayak]

I'm just gonna stick to tsubaki for now

[lone widget]

but trinity and millennium aint a problem for me anw

i hoard enough

[round kayak]

Smh kaiju

Me only fishy bro

[tall glacier]

Surely i can try lun

[lone widget]

now i have to guess which school gonna be for 5.5th fest

im picking gehenna

[lone widget]

sure sure ue60 nagi

[restive kraken]

Nemugaki is a term used by otakus iirc

Kuso gaki is just a general used term in Japanese

[tall glacier]

[west perch]

oh hey been a while since the last one

[round kayak]

F2p investment

[sly ice]

Is mine a good invest?

For elephs I meN

Mean

[snow portal]

Ehhh

Well she has use in Greg

[west perch]

what, as a random invest?

[round kayak]

she's a good investment but stars are not needed unless Luna or speedrun

[odd geyser]

and krkg

[frosty cedar]

[pure vessel]

stars help in tor too

[odd geyser]

3* mine krkg is suffering

[sly ice]

Someone posted a doggy run and she seemed good there

Doggy is kurokage

[round kayak]

from what

Diff?

[strange ridge]

If UE30+

Like Dajin said, 3* Mine is pain.

[marble gust]

raidless

[sly ice]

Mhm

[pure vessel]

mine is a great option for aoe def down whenever it's needed and stars help her survivability

[pure vessel]

but ofc you don't need to invest ue in her if she doesnt die

[strange ridge]

She dies most of the time tho

In lower stars especially

[west perch]

kkg greg peroro binah are her main possible usecases
another red tank for boat p1 & kaiten, and a self repos tank for geb

[true shale]

I seem to recall 3* Mine being sufficient for Torment Binah. Hard to say if that will still be the case on Lunatic.

[strange ridge]

Does Mine use cover?

[copper surge]

Some stereotypes are based on the time they were built.

Old tsunderes would be considered something else today for people who don't know better.

You can also frame than on other archetypes like "hero and nemesis" if you pick hero's journey, or "straightman and funny man" on comedy, or "face and heel" if you go wrestling

What I mean is, definitions are loose. It's a tag you can apply, but their only have meaning if they serve a purpose

Does making Yoshimi a tsundere changes anything? No, unless you are writer being told to write her like one.

[true shale]

Nope

[strange ridge]

Then no

[true shale]

She breaks it with her EX, even. If that's you're thing

[strange ridge]

You need more investments to Mine

Considering they kind of buffed Binah's missile rain

[round kayak]

oh right arch finally did F99

[true shale]

Hmm...? Do we know something about Lunatic Binah already?

[candid gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1350056329116385320/1471331729867538536/gif.gif

glad i have ue mine

[west perch]

p sure only SMG tanks use cover anyway

[strange ridge]

No but the JP binah World raid did

[true shale]

What happened?

[west perch]

and majority of our red tanks don't use cover

heck, I'm pretty sure our tanks aren't supposed to be for binah

[candid gust]

SG never uses cover

Just keep in mind

[summer dew]

MG and SG never use cover

[west perch]

our premier red tank for binah is Eimi

[candid gust]

RG

[true shale]

[strange ridge]

Missile rain:
Deals 150% dmg and stronger to weaker dmg based on how far the stusent is from Binah

Sandstorm: Removed accuracy and stability to:

Binah deals 50% less dmg to cover ztudents, but can't avoid attacks

[true shale]

[candid gust]

So uhh

[strange ridge]

As what Dajin posted

[candid gust]

Bianh still can destroy cover

[strange ridge]

Deals less dmg however

[copper surge]

Uh... what I am seeing here?

[candid gust]

Yeah we won't need to mald like heck

[odd geyser]

new binah

[strange ridge]

And I think this is making the players consider cover ib Lunatic

[odd geyser]

we've already experienced him on world raid on jp

[true shale]

Does this mean, a student in cover can never block either?

[copper surge]

Change? ON MY BLUE ARCHIVE???

[west perch]

red tanks are red tanks, and don't need cover

[candid gust]

dw guys just bring the stab debuff

[strange ridge]

Hence:

D. Tsukuyo is a prime tank

[candid gust]

on lun

[odd geyser]

yes. since they're never blocking, the cover won't take damage unless from AoE

[true shale]

I see

The sandstorm will still destroy all cover, is that correct?

[torn thorn]

whatsw th actual imapct of tihs

[strange ridge]

Most likely

[pure vessel]

oh wait fuck

[frozen chasm]

early missile damage mitigation I guess

[west perch]

isn't she a badge tank?

[strange ridge]

I thought when it meant unavoidable dmg means that Binah's attacks won't miss

[summer dew]

that also means boshi will take 150% damage when shielded

to her hp

[frozen chasm]

and you are incentivized to bring cover now

[strange ridge]

Therefore it will always jit cover first

[pure vessel]

I forgot to claim my jp cafe AP

[odd geyser]

students won't move around into different cover (kinda messes up some old akane strats)
yellow/blue armored students may actually survive

[pure vessel]

I'm gonna overrun

[frozen chasm]

wait what?

[strange ridge]

Meaning evasion tanks who use cover can't evade at all?

[west perch]

I bet dtsukuyo still takes more damage than Eimi

[strange ridge]

Maybe

[frozen chasm]

???

[summer dew]

think about it? if she pops up shield, she is granted cover status

[copper surge]

was evasion on Binah ever a thing?

[strange ridge]

Bit cover

[summer dew]

cover not blocking

[frozen chasm]

doesnt that mean she only take 50% damage

[true shale]

I'm quite a fan of this one, tbh. I sense the handiwork of whoever designed the Torment Perorodzilla laser

[frozen chasm]

[strange ridge]

Binah does rsther have low accuracy that an evasion tank can cheese.

[summer dew]

yeah but yellow armor

[strange ridge]

D. Tsuku?

She's red armor

[frozen chasm]

so you mean 150% is total

[west perch]

You are not using boshi in lunatic lmao

[summer dew]

ye

[copper crescent]

yeah binah has 1300 acc

[true shale]

We did deploy evasion tanks on Binah a little bit, but they weren't typically as effective as def-based tanks.

[strange ridge]

Exactly

[copper crescent]

def not luna

[strange ridge]

Hence. Cheese

[copper crescent]

but I was surprised they ran him first

[copper surge]

it looks like a buff to me, you can now survive binah missile if you have sand in your panties

[strange ridge]

Also speaking of

[odd geyser]

boshi never blocks

[strange ridge]

Isn'r unavoidable NOT Unblockable?

[copper crescent]

no they meant unblockable

[odd geyser]

I have a feeling that schale may have used the wrong word but I never tested with Mika/dodge tanks

[true shale]

Idk if I call it "cheese" if the approach was to heal them in proportion to their damage intake, but it's just nomenclature I presume.

[copper crescent]

imo they used the wrong word

[strange ridge]

Evasion cheese

Wait...

[copper surge]

or, mayber this means no more shield cheese

no kotori, no shizuko

[strange ridge]

Evasion IS cheese

[copper crescent]

yes

[copper surge]

you just tank it (or die)

[strange ridge]

Nah Barriers are still viable, but Binah will still hurt.

A lot

[torn thorn]

tbh idk what imapct that has

just means shge takes more dmg?

does the cover remaining in place have any effect

[harsh dragon]

did world raid binah have crit

[odd geyser]

yes, you take half damage while in cover

[strange ridge]

I don't think they removved Binah crit

[west perch]

Ye, you can see him crit above

[frozen chasm]

before: cover block the damage for you until it break
now: cover dont block but you take 50% damage when using cover

[harsh dragon]

if they remove binah crit i think if luna binah is the same then boss is prob gonna feel way better

[frozen chasm]

so you take 50% more damage compare to normal

[summer dew]

devs just want to see ppl use ninja bosh (dtsuku)

[true shale]

I am curious to know if the ATG Sandstorm would destroy B.Hoshi's cover too

[copper crescent]

welp

[strange ridge]

Maybe Luna might remove the crit chances in all other Bjnah's attacjs?

[frozen chasm]

and destroy boshi along with it

[copper crescent]

maybe

[strange ridge]

Unless the crits are there to stay

[copper surge]

does all binah attacks can crit? or just the bite?

[copper crescent]

all

[strange ridge]

All

[odd geyser]

pretty sure the DoT is chise style and can crit

[summer dew]

even the laser fire ticks

[copper surge]

Thats not daijoubu

[strange ridge]

Yes

[copper crescent]

yes

[strange ridge]

Its only Binah who crits in everything

Also can they remove Hiero's crit rate in the statboards?

[copper surge]

Binah, when the game was new and full of ideas

[ripe mason]

binah is crit malding us

[strange ridge]

Its confusing af

Like they gave jim crit rate but was coded to NEVER crit

[copper surge]

Hiero will curse multiple students, I can see it now

[true shale]

Binah's CDmg isn't especially high, but it still does make a difference, especially against the tank.

[strange ridge]

Doubt

[dim frigate]

all*

[copper surge]

all is multiples 😏

[frozen chasm]

doubt

[summer dew]

hmmh about 8 hours until byuzu and beimi numbers

[copper surge]

doubt is only making fate make it happen

[frozen chasm]

hiero will likely debuff healing even more

[strange ridge]

Not the point, but a crit to a nin-tank student can end their career

[tall glacier]

nin tank student

[odd geyser]

[strange ridge]

I still remember the torment's 70% dmg to a full HP Maki

[copper surge]

it bother me slightly I can't dodge an attack with Izuna teleport.

[true shale]

You talking about Izuna or Tsukuyo?

[copper surge]

evasion tanks

[strange ridge]

*non-tank

[copper surge]

oh, non-tanks

[true shale]

Oh, I see, haha

[odd geyser]

if izuna got crit early in the fight, I just reset

this was the raid that made me UE40 NYFuuka

[true shale]

Yeah but this is just abusing the fact that Binah can't reciprocate.

[odd geyser]

[harsh dragon]

what i like most about the binah change is cover students become very good defensive options

[odd geyser]

binah kun isn't allowed to reset for crits on us

[true shale]

We'd never engage in this type of play if Binah could restart upon receiving a crit

[harsh dragon]

you can prob do funny things with shizuko and keep yellow armour alive

[copper crescent]

will we have cover repos

for laser

[strange ridge]

Now if they can only five Shimiko buffs

[frozen chasm]

then they release new student that can place big/multiple covers

[tall glacier]

Shimiko agenda is still alive

[odd geyser]

Shimiko's def buff coming in clutch since the hp of the cover doesn't matter

[true shale]

It is pretty fancy. It always irked me that the purportedly single-hit of Sandstorm couldn't be blocked by cover.

[harsh dragon]

bro hear me out, shimiko ns+ is teamwide auto shield

ssss tier

[tall glacier]

[odd geyser]

[true shale]

Teamwide auto-shield on any special student would be SSSS tier

I still want it on Fuuka BG

I'd love to have an auto-shield with a longer duration than its cooldown too.

Maybe Shimiko would be a good platform for that

[strange ridge]

5.5 BG 3 EX buff

[copper surge]

Pass me some of this hopium bro, dat's good stuff.

[harsh dragon]

i mean doubling down on a units purpose is what they do with (good) bgs

shimiko is def buff, cover, shield....

so surely teamwide shield......

(we dont talk about kotori)

[odd geyser]

I'm not really sure why we'd want to bring our own cover unless luna binah destroys all cover at battle start

[pure vessel]

shimiko redemption arc

[restive kraken]

Cover gaming for Binah too…?

[copper surge]

Kotori DPS, I believe

[pure vessel]

when are we getting a tmari bg

[true shale]

Sandstorm cast traditionally has destroyed all the cover.

[pure vessel]

give

[harsh dragon]

based on wording wouldnt missiles and sandstorm kill cover? so youll need to replace

[torn thorn]

i still dont get the iplcation of this

[versed carbon]

my dude @harsh dragon, will you make a yesod guide in yt in the future? looking forward to it

[torn thorn]

will binah target cover instead of other students?

like tbh i never really thought about cover mechanics

and how they acftually work

cuz its rarely relevant unless its a sepcific gimmick

like chok/srkr

[frozen chasm]

inb4 shimiko bg is just some increase on the ST Shield

[true shale]

Also how do the formations work in P3 if cover can't be destroyed?

[copper crescent]

with cover change, students who take cover will take cover and get free 50% dmg reduction

[copper surge]

I guess what it means the cover wont block the dmg, and the translation is bad?

[harsh dragon]

oh wait missiles is single target isnt it, so only sandstorm breaks cover

[torn thorn]

i thout it says cover no longer block dmg

[copper surge]

people who dont pvp forget block is a thing

[copper crescent]

no longer blocks dmg, but they take 50% less dmg if they're in cover

[torn thorn]

oh

didnt know that a tihng

[west perch]

I never forget, since cover blocks kaiten sword

[copper surge]

if you have S mood vs someone with D mood, you can perma-block an attack pretty much

[copper crescent]

so if they're in cover, they take half as much dmg when sandstorm/missiles hit

[torn thorn]

ok yeah that pretty bg change then

'

[odd geyser]

Atp, I'm thinking you'd also need to heal your students for the new cover to matter. That'd be a lot of slots dedicated to just defense

[harsh dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1471341754816135198/image.png?ex=698e954a&is=698d43ca&hm=660890ee081d9327122a5b397c86ab5c0f9be9a21cd2103e8a9cdd1a69ea6a88&

[copper crescent]

trueee

so healers viable in binah

[harsh dragon]

yeh for sure, but its extra teams where jt wasnt possible before....

[strange ridge]

Pretty sure when it sais evade

[past spruce]

Only sandstorm breaks cover now

I think

[west perch]

always has been?

[frozen chasm]

also

[strange ridge]

Itvmeans mo evasion

[frozen chasm]

dont the missile deal increased damage on luna

[copper crescent]

yes but not to this extent

[frozen chasm]

like similar to chokma missile

[past spruce]

No news just yet

[strange ridge]

But I think itscnot unblockable

[past spruce]

But looking at the description

Probably

[true shale]

Remember there also used to be many students who would get outright one-shot, hence limiting the impact of healers.

[copper crescent]

now missiles that normally would end the team in 1 minute would not end the team, and the team with a healer would instead last the whole 3 mins

[harsh dragon]

i mean we dont even know if luna is getting world raid changes so lets not talk in present tense

[true shale]

Forcing two slots of dedicated defence students is one way to slow down the damage snowball, fwiw

[odd geyser]

They did mention in the patch notes that binah in general was getting changed. We just saw it in world raid first

[harsh dragon]

we dont know what changes, watch them adjust the stab value

[odd geyser]

no p3 in world raid was trippy. I hope p3 stays

[frozen chasm]

all dps have 10% stab now

[copper surge]

First Goz, now Binah

BA is changing....

...back in my day... 👴

[true shale]

Is it just a Luna change, or retroactive to all difficulties?

[harsh dragon]

like its obvious the evidence is telling hs something but we still dont talk in present tense for these lol

[odd geyser]

I accidentally sent you the screenshot from normal btw

[copper surge]

With this change, I'll finally be able to do Binah insane.

[harsh dragon]

huge if real

[odd geyser]

the torment text just has the anti airi verbage added

[copper surge]

do blue students die to sandstorm / missile in binah?

[past spruce]

Increase binah crit chance

[rocky cosmos]

They better make it actually hard...

[past spruce]

[pure vessel]

retvrn of 20 team binah clear

I member

first binah tor

[true shale]

They used to, but maybe not anymore.

[copper crescent]

yeah enabling blue armor teams to live might be huge

[copper surge]

there is only 1 student I think that benefits from this: Yuzu

[past spruce]

With shield no

[true shale]

Hence why this change is potentially such a big deal

[true shale]

You've got all your striker hyperbuffers and healers that you forgot!

[odd geyser]

I ran binah with barely any level/gear investments for Noa on my first torment.
If she got hit, no matter what investments I could do - she would die.

[harsh dragon]

yellow armours lived in the og torment binahs with shield and 80% atk debuff

[past spruce]

80% atk down?

[harsh dragon]

blues lived like 2 missiles with just shield

[harsh dragon]

chihiro + broko

[copper surge]

Nah, they can die

[odd geyser]

ue40 noa was an investment I was unwilling to make when Kazusa needed to survive too

[true shale]

It's the debuff cap, btw

[past spruce]

Ofc B.Roko dies right?

[harsh dragon]

uhh

[odd geyser]

just dodge missiles and groggy on time

[rocky cosmos]

you can keep anyone alive with enough atk down

[harsh dragon]

^

[strange ridge]

But with an 80% atk down MAYBE Bikeroko can live

[copper crescent]

broko lives

[past spruce]

So it's the same for all debuffs

[copper surge]

Like, supports are fat, they (usually) dont die because badge / pins

[past spruce]

Dang

[pure vessel]

remember when first day of mock was almost over and people were like this shit is literally impossible nexon doesnt playtest their own game

[odd geyser]

raishin did this

[pure vessel]

and then someone got the fucking 20 team clear

[strange ridge]

Also Bike uses badge

[true shale]

Uh... I feel like I've answered this before, but it's not completely universal, so... idk.

[rocky cosmos]

senovit did that on jp lol

[harsh dragon]

a lot of ppl did. It was common on urban cause of kazusa

[pure vessel]

senovit goat

[harsh dragon]

i did it myself

[summer dew]

Now pull takane for enabling blue armors on a binah team

[rocky cosmos]

I never need to resort to such tactic 😟

[true shale]

Global didn't see it because the reposition missile dodge came out near the end.

Global players maybe did it with Iori, if at all

[harsh dragon]

smh global players

[odd geyser]

I just learned how to dodge

[past spruce]

Most of global players are slaccers

[harsh dragon]

funny js that tech always existed in old binahs. It just wasnt useful till torment

there was an insane 1pan with iori back in the day that used it

[odd geyser]

pretty sure I didn't have Chihiro + Broko back then either

[copper surge]

Iori still dies tho

Sadge 😔

[pure vessel]

ancient tech

[true shale]

Yeah, I guess we could say that they refined the rotation necessary to apply it in battle.

[odd geyser]

[harsh dragon]

its so old the repos dodge was on the first version of the insane doc

[true shale]

Also Global has a somewhat complicated opinion of C.Shiroko's usefulness

[harsh dragon]

oh btw im rewriting the entire raid guide...

[odd geyser]

good luck causew

[copper surge]

@harsh dragon Know who has blue armor and uses cover? 😏

[copper crescent]

thank you causew

[harsh dragon]

google came out with a relatively new feature of doc tabs

so i can give each boss its own page

[past spruce]

D.Ako

[harsh dragon]

instead of the 180page behemoth...

and lets me do more detail without bloat. can consolidate low and high diff on the same doc too

[pure vessel]

how will you explain yesod to normal diff slaccers

:^)))))

[true shale]

We can now do 180 pages for each!

[odd geyser]

glad I never need to mald D mood OChin blocking ever again

[copper surge]

"shoot the cyberdemon until it dies"

[pure vessel]

elite reference

[harsh dragon]

i have yesod wip already on the doc, it should be understandable

[pure vessel]

I should do a new doom playthrough

[true shale]

Give them the Lunatic mechs and they won't notice the difference before it dies.

[harsh dragon]

my opinion of yesod tho is if you like puzzle solving you should do it blind

[sly ice]

Oh shits its causew love your boss tutorials man :)

[harsh dragon]

its a good puzzle

[copper surge]

I haven't read a single line of Yesod. I only know he claps us and sometimes his hand hurts when he claps us

[west perch]

too late

[true shale]

Huh. Did you come up with this advice, or is it going around in general?

[harsh dragon]

its mine

[true shale]

I've been recommended the same thing.

[summer dew]

Yeah same, I've been avoiding all yesod

[harsh dragon]

it has a real "aha" moment

[pure vessel]

me when I misaim my shanako and my team ceases to exist before I can reset

[summer dew]

I know theres drones and pillars

[harsh dragon]

well, p1 anyway

[west perch]

I already have the rotation for both my p1 teams

[summer dew]

And he has big hands

[true shale]

I guess a friend of mine must have been lurking on your streams if you said it there

[copper surge]

its more... I'll need to read it again when it arrives, no need to learn it beforehand

[harsh dragon]

p2 read the guide dont bother

[tall glacier]

I alr know cause i have to funnel investments for lun

[west perch]

p2 is genuinely sleeper

[tall glacier]

[harsh dragon]

but p1 is an excellent puzzle for puzzle enjoyers

[true shale]

What type of puzzle? Like riddle-esque puzzle? Or Sodoku-esque puzzle?

[pure vessel]

I had to 2pan world raid yesod c

[copper surge]

I am sure GPD will say Yesod is free

[hollow saddle]

Just copy TL and

[harsh dragon]

Sekiro "what buttons do i press so this guy doesnt fucking murder me" puzzle

[west perch]

it's free for us

[past spruce]

Ssg

[west perch]

it's not free for bag

[copper surge]

this said, F97 Set this time was surprisingly free... I guess having Acari helped

[marble gust]

yesod p2 is completely free

[true shale]

Since I haven't looked into it, I don't know if it's achievable for me or not.

[tall glacier]

What will asia yesod cutoff be

[torn thorn]

yesod luna f2p, meta is all old permas

[west perch]

HC

[past spruce]

Then wonders why their units are dying after the slam

[marble gust]

p1 gives free dmg buffs

[west perch]

I have no faith in this server

[past spruce]

[frozen chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-beast-grab-crucify-elden-ring-gif-15054066516100438359

[true shale]

My resources are low...

[hollow saddle]

Nah its free entertainment for clueless

[marble yacht]

Most likely around high end ext, low ins

[torn thorn]

Same