💬gameplay-discussion

[odd geyser]

it's so nice

[winged geyser]

slack score

[odd geyser]

doubled from 13 seconds to 26 seconds

So if she's responsible for opening core, her basic lasts the entire open

[supple star]

4* Cherino

[candid gust]

https://youtu.be/ClHrnFXvJO0

🧀

[supple star]

Ngl i thought You had an ue+ Cherino

[odd geyser]

random spook + eleph from events

[candid gust]

ok dajin your midori was critting enough

that's the hardest shit

the rest are free

[odd geyser]

I dnf'd in tourny b/c of her

I blame lethe. He banned someone I relied on for that team

[supple star]

I want that Cherino node soon
4* Cherino is 😟

[odd geyser]

I just got her 4* on jp

and some more. 3x hards was goated

[wicked vine]

wheres shun node

[odd geyser]

urban pvp needs to end first

[supple star]

The same for Makoto
I'm gonna ligma her till ue40

[wicked vine]

damn

when is pvp ending on global anyway

feel like its getting close

[odd geyser]

soonish since magical banner is coming up

[candid gust]

how bald do you want

[odd geyser]

urban has gotten so much worse as time goes on

[wicked vine]

worst pvp season ever???

[odd geyser]

I really lucked out the first week by getting my r1 early (no refresh!)

[supple star]

Stupid sweepers
Theres always one surviving

[odd geyser]

It's felt like one of the most defender favored seasons so far

[wicked vine]

i think im gonna take a break next season for pvp

[odd geyser]

I have so much trouble climbing but my rank stays relatively stable

[wicked vine]

unless i land a good bracket with good mafias

[odd geyser]

ngl, next season is just whale/10

[candid gust]

guys i have an idea...

[odd geyser]

it starts out f2p enough

but DMichiru + Yakumo + Saki made it awful

[candid gust]

100 eligma for 100 pieces of keystone

[lost wagon]

That one robot that survives randomly and goes straight for Seia---

[candid gust]

[wicked vine]

why does saki make it bad again

i see her value this season

cant say for next season

[odd geyser]

early in next season, Hibiki + Saki + SHanako + Tsubaki makes a nearly unwallable core

her NS keeps yellow tanks/Atsuko at low hp

[supple star]

[odd geyser]

and if your SHanako gets clipped a little bit, it's just a death sentence if the enemy has Saki

[wicked vine]

damn

might need to ue40 her

[odd geyser]

yeah

I have 3* and she's not enough

healers can overpower her

[wicked vine]

when is saki getting farmable

feel like its been about long enough?

[frigid oar]

more like when will Miyu be farmable

[odd geyser]

after this season of pvp

[odd geyser]

everyone honestly deserves a miyu

[frigid oar]

I still dont have Moe until now lmao
but I have SMoe

[eternal thorn]

[odd geyser]

I've gotten all SRT on JP

[snow portal]

How many of them will you use tho

[supple star]

Man

[odd geyser]

just missing smoe on global

[supple star]

I don't have Miyu and SMiyako

[odd geyser]

I used SMoe for that one purple jfd

og miyu's the only one I haven't used on JP and that's just b/c I'm poor

actually I take that back, I haven't used og Moe either

but I used her on global

Moe was always kinda clutch in kaiten

[torn thorn]

I’m missing smiyako

[wicked vine]

i have all srt

[odd geyser]

Moe's basic hits all 5 kaitengers for free cc

[odd geyser]

pulling ssrt was f2p for the first greg smh smh!

[steep vortex]

i went to go make a joke about being f2p, when did i get saki lmao

[odd geyser]

she randomly spooks lmao

[steep vortex]

bro what

[steep vortex]

i thought all this whole time i didnt have her lmao

[odd geyser]

[steep vortex]

exactly

[odd geyser]

ssrt was the first banner I sparked on jp

[supple star]

Isnt Rabu enough tho?

[odd geyser]

not for luna

[steep vortex]

oh my marisu hit b20, time for 4*

[supple star]

Oh Luna

Yea

[supple star]

Dajin catching strays

[supple star]

[odd geyser]

for tor tho? Don't mess up

cleanup yesod is despair

for context lethe

Tsubaki gets pulled out of position to CC when you use focus fire

I guess there's Kayoko but she's 6 cost which is kinda yikes

Hifumi sounds dead af when you have no real shields left

and lmao

[supple star]

Oof

[odd geyser]

this says nothing about cc power which I'm pretty sure just excludes Suzumi

[supple star]

So

You always cc when it has more than 50% hp

[odd geyser]

if you're able to yeah

[supple star]

[odd geyser]

reading the boss

[supple star]

Surely it won't happen

[frail glen]

guys what would you do in my shoes

use the next 3 resets for farm artifacts and some mats from event

or trying to reach ue30 with s atsuko

[desert sphinx]

Use serina till you get her 6 stars

[supple star]

Ue30

Of course

[odd geyser]

reach ue30, it's a no brainer

[copper crescent]

Yeah

[odd geyser]

mats can always come later, this is your last time to farm atsuko

[supple star]

[copper crescent]

Anything below ue40 if ue40 matters means u keep farming

[supple star]

Me ue50 f2p rights

[frail glen]

I kinda hoped I started playing when the event first dropped

So I could ue 40 s atsuko

[copper crescent]

Does welfare farm ue40 matter? No -> farm ue30
Yes -> farm ue40

[frail glen]

btw how hard is it to craft purple furnitures?

[dim frigate]

You'll be okay, i was lazy farming like every welfare until last year

[odd geyser]

Does welfare farm ue40 matter? No -> farm ue40
Yes -> farm ue60

[frail glen]

I am prob not going to use these furnitures, but if they are hard to craft, might as well just buy them rn

[atomic meadow]

does the wildhunt event have any farming worth hoarding AP for or just satsuko all in

[atomic meadow]

thinking if i need to make hoard guide or not

[odd geyser]

all in satsuko no hoard

[atomic meadow]

cool

[snow portal]

Last time you can farm her event, go as hard as you can

[supple star]

Saten despite being welfare from a box gacha farm
was pretty decent ngl

[odd geyser]

if they put Saten's kit on a striker, she'd be kinda op

[summer dew]

the next big one is the magical girls event, it has welfare AND ligma farm

[mint sapphire]

farm

[atomic meadow]

oh yeah, that i will prep guide for sure

(in case i forget feel free to ping me)

ty for info

[frail glen]

seems like ritsu is not getting merged

[summer dew]

oh they actually have pity on the card draw/omikuji things

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-sensei-gif-11902604194440307830

[supple star]

[polar orbit]

[simple ravine]

[copper crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1254148955802177647/headpattimeYUKARI.gif

[fleet narwhal]

3/5

[odd geyser]

[polar orbit]

look who decided to show their face

[fleet narwhal]

oh

[supple star]

Mineleft

[fleet narwhal]

its that student everyone already owns

[polar orbit]

not everyone!

[fleet narwhal]

hmm ?

who doesnt

[polar orbit]

me

[simple ravine]

just spook her

[fleet narwhal]

me who

[frail glen]

guys how hard am I coping for deliberately not exchanging neru and hopeing to spook her once archive banner gets more tickets

for the free 120 eleph

[fleet narwhal]

its hard to put into words

[odd geyser]

actively griefing yourself b/c a wakaboat is coming up

[fleet narwhal]

but to put it plainly

its just a dumb move

[simple ravine]

also losing uneru stat transfer

[fleet narwhal]

with such little payout

[frail glen]

120 eleph is 120 eleph

[fleet narwhal]

that its actually hilariously pointless

[frail glen]

takes forever to farm

[fleet narwhal]

uh, bond takes time to build up too

[simple ravine]

what if we could convert 120 ap into 30 pyros

[fleet narwhal]

and you are coping for a spook chance if archive every gets an update

[polar orbit]

okay. sure. i guess

[fleet narwhal]

btw... ue40 hifoom should be enough for luna boat right

[snow portal]

Today's L2D roll is brought to you by the letter S for Sakurako! Wappi~

[fleet narwhal]

surely those pathetic stat increases arent noteworthy for luna

[odd geyser]

think of the Hifumi dps tho

[frail glen]

wait does this mean I had been trolling this whole time coping for spook

[fleet narwhal]

i think i'll be safe

[odd geyser]

yes

[snow portal]

0/5 bnnuy

[fleet narwhal]

cuz... it is

lmfao

[odd geyser]

you should claim every single shop farmable at least bro

[steep vortex]

[supple star]

[odd geyser]

Like seriously - if you could buy 50 ligma for 900 GA coin rn, would you do it?

[supple star]

Aiming for ue50?

[frail glen]

I honestly dk

which is concerning

[odd geyser]

[frail glen]

but i think with the context the answer is yes?

[simple ravine]

i should claim my farmables too

[fleet narwhal]

it very EASILY is a yes

[steep vortex]

just hit ue40, will keep going tho

[supple star]

Good

[steep vortex]

also finally finished buying out the gifts

[snow portal]

Lesson elephs

[simple ravine]

[snow portal]

Cube!

[steep vortex]

wtf

why do i have more

[snow portal]

30 blue springs, I got scammed by scrimms 🥀

[simple ravine]

[fleet narwhal]

I'm gonna be bullied if I post mine

[steep vortex]

im f2p tho

[simple ravine]

i forgot when did you start

[odd geyser]

[steep vortex]

a month after you

[torn thorn]

212……

[fleet narwhal]

NO CHANCE

I...

[frail glen]

wow I just got it after exchanging all the claimable

[fleet narwhal]

I am afraid

[simple ravine]

fake f2p im afraid

[steep vortex]

i only have 180 students total, im too f2p for this convo

[odd geyser]

we f2p are here to stay

[fleet narwhal]

oh god I am afraid.... this is getting too close to kaijujin

[simple ravine]

i have 169

[supple star]

i only have 177 students total, im too f2p for this convo

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[odd geyser]

my student count comes from age, me f2p not whale

[snow portal]

[torn thorn]

Me not even 200

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[fleet narwhal]

he lies as naturally as he breathes

[simple ravine]

i only spook good students like d aru c hare and mine

[odd geyser]

I'm actually surprised we're so close

[snow portal]

That's because you've been whale all along

[odd geyser]

‼️💢

[fleet narwhal]

i'm actually surprised we're so close

[odd geyser]

me f2p sacc, no whel

[snow portal]

That's because you are whale

[supple star]

[fleet narwhal]

me f2p sacc, no whel

[frail glen]

omg we are the same

[snow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/search-your-feelings-you-know-gif-5340126

[frail glen]

[odd geyser]

my shoshi fes:

[frail glen]

I think I can reach 200 if I am lucky by the 5th fest

[odd geyser]

I considered pulling for pure 6% a noob trap and pulled out!

me just sacc

[torn thorn]

I mean unless ur stretched really thin

Kinda worth pulling to 200 for the eleph bonus

[steep vortex]

i got super lucky and sacced shanako and wakamo from fest spooks

[supple star]

Sacc

[snow portal]

Soon...

[torn thorn]

I’d pull out if there was another banner I wanted to pull that I wouldn’t be able to afford if I do a full 200

[steep vortex]

damn i hit ue40 before the whale, what have i become

[torn thorn]

But like aside from that I’m gonna go 200 on fest regardless

[odd geyser]

[snow portal]

I didn't farm her a lot last time

[frail glen]

smh whale and lucky

[snow portal]

I slacc'd

[frail glen]

[supple star]

[steep vortex]

same, i was farming normals

from 3* to ue40

[supple star]

Dang Dajin
Where did that luck go man

[odd geyser]

I never experienced 6% early on in my account b/c I just left the banner early

[snow portal]

I hate weekly limits...

[mint sapphire]

i just cant stop myself

[snow portal]

🛶

[atomic arrow]

🛶

[simple ravine]

41 out of 33

[fleet narwhal]

joey explain to me why my name was changed

[supple star]

Kanoemaxxing

[mint sapphire]

took you way too long to notice

[atomic arrow]

I thought you changed it...

[fleet narwhal]

i was asleep, fym it took me way too long to notice

[fleet narwhal]

no... the mega newb i added myself

[mint sapphire]

no you were talking here when i changed it

[steep vortex]

shouldve noticed in your sleep

[atomic arrow]

ohhh

[fleet narwhal]

grrrr...

[simple ravine]

do you think i can get ue40 or not enough time

[fleet narwhal]

mod power abuse !

and no watsen to report it to

[snow portal]

Are you refreshing?

[supple star]

[snow portal]

If not, then no

[simple ravine]

x3 only

and i run out of pvp coins🥀

[snow portal]

Yeah you don't make it

Oof

[summer dew]

fun farm

[steep vortex]

well theres 3 more days, thats 60-70 elephs

so

[fleet narwhal]

Joey needs to be banned

[simple ravine]

i remember i basically didnt farm her on the first run

[atomic arrow]

[simple ravine]

only got to almost 3* and dropped it

got 3* through lessons

[supple star]

Welp

Keep farming

[fleet narwhal]

anyway, can someone do my chesed/chok for me

[supple star]

Permits to ue50 it is

[odd geyser]

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

whlejin. …

[odd geyser]

me no whel, just sacc!

I just shared receipts

[frail glen]

[supple star]

Dajin in global: 😃
Dajin in jp: ☠️

[torpid galleon]

better flex than mines ssg

[fleet narwhal]

could you share your pyro count real quick

[fleet narwhal]

on main mister

[frail glen]

wait a minute

the banner

[simple ravine]

i only had 2 saccs in my life tyuuka and bneru in 10

[odd geyser]

don't worry about it

[fleet narwhal]

no no, i am not the one worried

please show

[fleet narwhal]

i only sacced bkazus

never got lucky since

[odd geyser]

I also sacc'd Nagisa and Koyuki right after Mika's banner

[supple star]

I had some good saccs

[frail glen]

nvm me blind

[supple star]

CHare in 10 and DAru in 6 single tix

[steep vortex]

my best sacc was shina in first 10 pull, its been downhill from there

[frail glen]

when can I get those lucks

[supple star]

You have more students than me

[torn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381641952549802168/1383464856262541443/XJdO5g1.webp

[frail glen]

the number is largely inflated by farmables

farmables don't count right?

[odd geyser]

dhina's fes is where all my jp luck went.
got shoshino and dhina within 20 pulls but kept going.
spooked chare, mika, both aris, hibiki

[supple star]

Saccjin

[odd geyser]

i skipped DAru too

simply spooked her on Shupo banner

[fleet narwhal]

hmm, I think my best spooks were iwak/nykayoko/ui/mine/wakamo/daru

[odd geyser]

yeah, I spooked all of them on jp too

[mint sapphire]

how fitting

[odd geyser]

I was playing as waifu player and just spooked meta

[fleet narwhal]

us lucksacks got it rough

[supple star]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-meme-looking-out-the-window-sad-missing-out-sad-squidward-gif-5401562831942688207

[frail glen]

this is me fr

[supple star]

Everyone with nyk

[odd geyser]

dw kei's taking her job soon

[supple star]

B-but the buff stack!!

[fleet narwhal]

what do you want joey

havent you bullied me enough

[odd geyser]

you'd rather stack attack probably ngl

color effectiveness is the weakest buff

[frail glen]

doesn't ny kayoko technically has higher ceiling if all her skills hit the student you want at the right time?

surely she won't get replaced right?

[supple star]

Hmm
I remember reading that

[odd geyser]

in shorter fights anyway

[supple star]

So You prefer one color buffer

[odd geyser]

NYKayoko beats CHare if a fight drags on b/c of her subskill

but for shorter fights or if you can't proc her sub, then CHare is better

[supple star]

I see

[odd geyser]

unless its frr and you have free slots

[supple star]

Dw Dajin i'll sacc Kei in 10

[odd geyser]

good

[supple star]

Oh

[odd geyser]

going dry feels bad, nobody should have to go through it

[supple star]

Acari doesnt stack

Cooked

[odd geyser]

nah

she should

[supple star]

Fr?

Isnt Kei aoe?

[odd geyser]

Akari color effectiveness comes from the TS passive

Kei comes from EX

check source:

[supple star]

[summer dew]

Ye you could stack 4 sources of blue eff

[odd geyser]

Akari's EX is technically summoning the TS.
The TS is a distinct entity with its own skills

[summer dew]

Akari sub+ts, kei, nyk

[sly ice]

@odd geyser I got Aris at long last

[supple star]

Thats nice

[odd geyser]

[supple star]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-this-information-is-worth-millions-info-secret-information-informant-gif-17581596

[odd geyser]

gotta count nyk sub in that case too

[summer dew]

Lmao

[fleet narwhal]

...scary

[summer dew]

So what wtf you could troll with kuroko having 7x blue eff buff

[placid ruin]

How many students do you have then in total

[summer dew]

Useless but

[sly ice]

I just hit 210

[placid ruin]

Nothing but respect

[sly ice]

Thank you gang

[sly ice]

Wdym scary?

[fleet narwhal]

missing only 2 students total...

thats scary kaiju level

[sly ice]

Not counting limiteds

[frail glen]

can't compete

[sly ice]

Which I am missing out on a few more of

[supple star]

Lmao x5

[sly ice]

And dw, those pyrox WILL be going to Fuyu and Miyo

[odd geyser]

nyk sub

[sly ice]

I feel bad because Kuroko is the only fest girl I lack

[sly ice]

But shes getting a rerun, and I will be pulling tf outta her banner

[supple star]

Kei is 2 cost right?

[odd geyser]

yeah

[supple star]

Huge

[stable tulip]

if I increase this by 300-500 is that...worth it? I'd have to upgrade momiji a bit more to do it

[fleet narwhal]

[supple star]

[odd geyser]

what teams are you running

[stable tulip]

don't remember last time, I threw all of kivotos just to clear current setup is this. If I can make p1 a clear team I can borrow a mika for p2 instead of shanako

[odd geyser]

shanako borrow?

[stable tulip]

I don't want to? that's the whole point of my current setup

[odd geyser]

oh, I was wondering what the empty slot was for

[stable tulip]

it was for her, but it'd be filled by someone else if I can beat without

[odd geyser]

ngl, if you just borrow SHanako for p1 instead - there's no reason why your Mika shouldn't be able to just 1core the boss

NYFuuka + SNagisa is trolling yourself tho

They don't stack

The most recently applied crit dmg buff EX overwrites the last one

[stable tulip]

there's a very good reason my smika can't 1core, and nyfuuka was to smack with mika 4 times

[steep vortex]

[stable tulip]

I could get 2/3 of her skills to 10 ez, her items are a bit more of a headache

[supple star]

[fleet narwhal]

[sly ice]

Will this hold on over the weekend? First ever platinum potentially

[steep vortex]

210 students and you never platted before?

[fleet narwhal]

its chesed, you arent going to see 1350 upscores

[supple star]

Aren't You fossil?

[fleet narwhal]

over weekend only

[stable tulip]

I was focused on uneru and getting my buffers up post-fest, was just told continuously borrow dps 🥀

[sly ice]

I’ve only been playing for like 8-9 months

[supple star]

[steep vortex]

🦖

giga kaiju wtf

[fleet narwhal]

Thats

scary

[sly ice]

I only hit level 90 in like November

[supple star]

Newbies are buffed these days

[frail glen]

I am not progressing fast enough I see

[stable tulip]

I just hit lvl90 2 weeks ago

[sly ice]

I’m Irish so I think the gacha luck just comes to me

[fleet narwhal]

210+ students in less than a year....

[odd geyser]

as an iori hater, what do your yellow mobbers look like then?

Momoi actually can do much better than Momiji in purple chesed ins

[stable tulip]

yellow team, and yes momoi did way better than expected without much invest

[sly ice]

Iori hater but he used her, mods please eviscerate this man

[stable tulip]

hmm, might need to invest more in her to use her on purple but that's a way better invest imo

[full granite]

Yeah you're fine

[odd geyser]

actually wait a second, if you move Hikari onto your SMika team - you should be able to 2 shot the boss still

[full granite]

And im fine too >:D

[stable tulip]

I'll give it a shot, nothing lost

[tropic saddle]

[supple star]

[true scroll]

[odd geyser]

with better groggy trim, you should still have time to get the 2nd shot without a bot blowing up in Seia's face

[stable tulip]

mock complete, mistimed the groggy and barely got the second shot off but it worked

[odd geyser]

[stable tulip]

thanks so much for the help

only thing left to do before I do full run is figure out a better p1 formation. it works but it's clunky

[iron nymph]

Me at level 68, watching in awe at others do millions of damage. It has been a while since I’ve felt that in a game.

[odd geyser]

Tsubaki (350 tanks in general) feel kinda troll for p1

[lilac solar]

I felt this way when I first got back into BA after my three year hiatus

you will get there

trust

[stable tulip]

don't worry, it doesn't wear off until you start doing it, the jump from insane->torment->lunatic is so massive you can't help but look up

[iron nymph]

Definitely. I’ll have to take advantage of the three upcoming double exp weekends.

[stable tulip]

tsubaki is just my best tank, that's why she's here atm. thinking if I optimize p1 to just cycle back to shanako instead of using dsaori as backup sweeper is better

[odd geyser]

kinda janky but if you do something like this (Anybody, Tsubaki, (650 Range Aka DSaori), SHanako):
SHanako will naturally move into a spot where she can wipe out the 1st wave

[iron nymph]

Also I think I am at the point where I need to prioritize gear upgrades to get through missions now.

[covert spoke]

it is very important yes

[odd geyser]

waiting here lets you build up the cost and wipe the first wave in 1 ex. The extra cost lets you cycle quickly back to hanako for wave 2

[stable tulip]

current setup is kinda like what you posted, kokona is the unneeded healer that cycles quick and removes a cost later on. thinking of swapping in sshiroko for same reason

[supple star]

[odd geyser]

ngl, serina is probably better than Ako

[iron nymph]

I was getting through missions relatively easily with just T2-3 stuff.
Then 18-1 to 18-5 started slapping me around.

[stable tulip]

yeah tbh ako/himari are unnecessary since shakano 1 shots anything here anyway

[frail glen]

t4 is usually the sweet spot for missions

i believe

you can push through the rest with either some investment in levels

or use fest students

fests are built different

[odd geyser]

himari is nice just b/c of her subskill

I'd keep her if you don't need her on the last team

[stable tulip]

ah fair, it'd probably save more than the 1 time cost reduction of swimsuit shiroko

[odd geyser]

if you have iwak btw, I'd yeet NYFuuka on that last team for her

[full granite]

Sshiro has the same cost recovery sub skill lol

[iron nymph]

Will probably save my gems for this years fest characters

Not sure if any upcoming banners are super worth it and sadly missed D.Hina.

[full granite]

A lot of them are super worth it

Close to fest

[odd geyser]

yeah, these two in particular if you don't have

[iron nymph]

Got Kisaki.

[untold tusk]

I recommend getting Track Yuuka

[odd geyser]

I consistently skip TYuuka on JP and struggle b/c of it

[iron nymph]

… I just looked up T.Yuuka. That, that is a lot of shields.

And positioning.

[full granite]

She's core for slumpia

And geburah ig

[stable tulip]

interestingly enough, idk which is better for p2 iwak or nyfuuka. I think I save...1-3 seconds with iwak? I have to use mika's ex 3 times tho

[frail glen]

the slumpia hw i had been researching don't use Tyuuka

everybody just choose to face tank and health check the boss

[stable tulip]

chesed doesn't have the closing animation on the iwak run though so that's nice

[frail glen]

but tyuuka ones really make the raids feel comfy

[fleet narwhal]

geez that banner is brutal

but im skipping

[odd geyser]

huh what does your sshiroko look like

[odd geyser]

tyuuka returns despite her armor in geburah torment

[stable tulip]

lvl69

[loud knoll]

bad armor tank surviving fine is not something unheard before

[odd geyser]

the amount of mystic effectiveness they gave the boss makes it seem like the devs really didn't want her to be useful there

[loud knoll]

shield too fat 😭

and well million healing from heater

[snow portal]

Big fat shield?

[odd geyser]

okay, I popped that into the calc - yeah you might wanna just use NYFuuka then but it's up to you

[sleek flicker]

At last, 4 stars

[odd geyser]

It's a damage range b/c of your sshiroko's (and SNagisa's) level

[untold tusk]

x6 refresh during exp boost worth or is x3 refresh good enough?

[stable tulip]

nope it was crit malding

[odd geyser]

no such thing with smika

that's stability malding

[stable tulip]

it had something to do with dps variability

[loud knoll]

its same as x3 without boost, if you do it daily already

[untold tusk]

I do not really x3 refresh daily

[odd geyser]

yeah, since SMika always crits - the only other rng for damage you'll encounter with her is stability. That stat affects the minimum amount of damage a student can do per hit

The game rolls between your minimum and maximum damage each hit regardless of crit

[loud knoll]

its mostly how much you want faster level 90 vs how much you want pyro

[odd geyser]

Unless that student is DHina (ignores stability)

[untold tusk]

I guess I rather save for rolls

[opaque dagger]

Hina Dress' EX is max stab but not guaranteed crit

[odd geyser]

I don't like 6xing unless it's for eleph/ligma

[loud knoll]

as you seem to be more focused on collecting, might as well not refresh at all

[odd geyser]

like sure we have 3x comms but that's whatever

[polar orbit]

im so excited for this fests 3x cause none of it interferes with an eleph farm

[untold tusk]

I am already doing that just thought to x3 refresh since was exp boost for some days

[loud knoll]

Are you close to max level by the way?

[untold tusk]

I am currently level 81

[loud knoll]

unless you want to be 90 asap little reason to x6

[polar orbit]

6x as a f2p is quite tough

3x i think is okay, and is 100% worth it during eleph farms

[loud knoll]

but its only like 3 days of x2 exp or so

not daily x6

[polar orbit]

ah i see

[odd geyser]

no regrets 6xing for MYuzu

[fleet narwhal]

hmm

i think i only did 6x during skoharu and doujin events

[polar orbit]

so whel

[fleet narwhal]

fym whel, those were terrific deals

[odd geyser]

6x4x for MYuzu = UE50

[loud knoll]

I remember you spamming x6 if not x9 on shrimps

[fleet narwhal]

did I ?

[polar orbit]

sounds like deno

[fleet narwhal]

maybe 6x, i never did 9x

and even then i dont think i did 6x

[slate sky]

Smiyu event was decent ligma farm

[polar orbit]

fs

[fleet narwhal]

ye shrimps were like twice as good as the wh we had

[wanton pilot]

Having every pvp farmable at ue60 feels so good, never worrying about coins for refreshing again

[lilac solar]

ngl event credit farm is pretty good

I'm only at 21.7k aronagems though so idk if it's worth 3xing

[slate sky]

It's enough time to get a spark by magical girl banner of pulling that

[fleet narwhal]

i wish i focused on smiyu over eligma back then

[supple star]

RAAAAAAAAH

[fleet narwhal]

whalren

[untold tusk]

So am assuming x6 for more exp not worth

[polar orbit]

are we green squaring people now

[polar orbit]

i would say no

only if there is also an eleph farm going on

[fleet narwhal]

you uh... dont get it ?

[simple ravine]

whelren

[polar orbit]

no i get it that's why i commented

[lost wagon]

If i finish platinum this grand assault with the triple I, I'll uh happy

[polar orbit]

did you speedrun

[lost wagon]

Red and purple

[untold tusk]

Does the BToki eleph farm count as an eleph farm?

[polar orbit]

need triple speedrun for plat

[lost wagon]

Bruh

[astral fern]

Denosaur kaijuing so hard rn 🦖

[fleet narwhal]

its a.toki, but ye

btoki is bunny toki

[polar orbit]

yes but you cant use AP to farm her

[stable tulip]

I put everything into the schaledb calculator for torment to see what happens, but idk how to read the result page. it's saying with the ex it only does a max of 147k and that can't be right?

[polar orbit]

so it's different

[untold tusk]

BToki sounds better so I am abbreviating as that

[fleet narwhal]

...ye but that doesnt work here

[woeful gull]

Quick question are all the chapters for vol 6 all there or will they release more later

[fleet narwhal]

because everyone here associates bunny toki with btoki

[polar orbit]

more

[loud knoll]

no, only 1 out of 3, more will come later

[untold tusk]

Is either BToki or BSToki for I

[woeful gull]

Okay thx

[stable tulip]

oh I needed to click exposed throne on, whoops

[untold tusk]

Or perhaps since I abbreviate as BKHimari I abbreviate as BKToki

[stable tulip]

yeah I thought the ex wording was a bit off

[obsidian heath]

bullshit toki

sounds like a good abbreviation for one such as I

[lilac solar]

bricktoki

[stable tulip]

yeah I can't clear torment like this, maybe post-fest if I spook shanako

[polar orbit]

that damage seems quite low

each smika ex should deal at least 4 million

[echo oar]

baka himari

[opaque dagger]

4 million minroll is already kinda bad but if you 2 core that's fine

[polar orbit]

should be way more than 1.1m at the least

[opaque dagger]

True

Did you add buffs to your calcs

That looks like buffless dmg

[loud knoll]

Bratty himari. Or wait, its the usual one

[stable tulip]

I mean...my smika isn't exactly "optimal" if you know what I mean. I was focused on other students at the time

[polar orbit]

borrow?

[stable tulip]

I want to borrow yeah but I don

[opaque dagger]

If your Meeka does that dmg fully buffed

Don't use her at all

[stable tulip]

don't have shanako

[opaque dagger]

Are you doing the calcs right

[polar orbit]

dont need shanako to clear phase 1

[opaque dagger]

You still need her for P2 tho

[polar orbit]

no

just AA

[opaque dagger]

So you throw another team to do the 4 waves?

Hmmm

[polar orbit]

1 core

assuming they have the relevant buffers

[opaque dagger]

I mean yea, you are suggesting using other AoE for groggy setup

[stable tulip]

yeah?

[loud knoll]

shanko is easiest, but not hard requirement. Can cook with other purples if available

[polar orbit]

no you just take the phase 1 team all the way to 3.8 waves

[midnight river]

What are the 🦖 🐳 cooking today?

[loud knoll]

t3 gear

[opaque dagger]

Nah bro I see UE30 I'm out

Also you turned off the sub

[loud knoll]

t3 gear is easier to fix than ue

[stable tulip]

it wasn't on in the first place, and doesn't it take a while to happen? by the time p2 opens core it's not on

[opaque dagger]

You probably need to P1 with a different team, and 2 core P2 with your team

[stable tulip]

I've got 10k eligma I could easily ue40

[polar orbit]

still not beating a borrow

[opaque dagger]

Sub is always on wtf. And if Basic is not on during groggy, you lose a shit ton of dmg

[stable tulip]

doesn't mean anything if I can't reach the boss or beat the goons

[opaque dagger]

Like I said, P1 with someone else

P2 2 core with borrowed Hanako Swimsuit + Meeka Swimsuit

[polar orbit]

that's another option yeah

not a bad idea

[stable tulip]

oh, didn't even see the sub, I just saw basic off and assumed that's what you were talking about

[loud knoll]

as an alternative actually build mika and do 1 core

[opaque dagger]

I recorded such a clear but then I was too strong and 1 core'd it

Is Nagi buffs not there

[stable tulip]

you guys are confusing me a bit here, I can only borrow 1 either shanako or smika, I'd have to build smika anyway since no shanako

[opaque dagger]

Either that or your Meeka Swimsuit isn't even EX5

[loud knoll]

you can (hopefully) clear gauntlet without shanako, borrow fat mika and 1 core

[stable tulip]

she is ex5 and nagi buff is on just not lvl10

[opaque dagger]

??? I'm talking about her EX

[polar orbit]

two teams. Get to the core room +2 or 3 waves with a different team, then bring in your own s.mika and a shanako borrow with buffers after forfeiting the other team

[opaque dagger]

Are you not using her EX

[stable tulip]

of course I'm using her ex! and yes it's ex5! you're assuming she's lvl90 which she's not she's 20

[polar orbit]

that's a lot of missing damage

[opaque dagger]

I don't see her buffs there btw

[polar orbit]

the stat transfer does actually matter from 20 compared to 90

[opaque dagger]

3/3, only Hikari, Hoshino Swimsuit and Seia Swimsuit

You forgot to add Nagi Swimsuit's EX

[stable tulip]

oh so putting her into the special slot thing doesn't also add her to the buffs/debuffs menu? that's kinda sucky

[opaque dagger]

........

[polar orbit]

you have to apply her ex

[loud knoll]

it adds only sub

ex and basic (if exist) should be added manually

[opaque dagger]

I was like "no way it's that low even at UE30"

[stable tulip]

you add her into the sub thing, automatically put her in the buff thing disabled, enable it. web design

[opaque dagger]

I mean, you can choose to not use her EX

[loud knoll]

then again, t3 hat

[feral jetty]

did you see the t3 gear?

[opaque dagger]

Nah still far too low

T3 to T10 hat doesn't triple your output

[grim finch]

[stable tulip]

no but it does add 1mil

[opaque dagger]

Now this number makes sense

[polar orbit]

is your only cost regen character s.shiroko? no himari or kisaki?

[opaque dagger]

That is pathetic, you don't even 6 tap

[stable tulip]

himari yes, kisaki no

[polar orbit]

why are we not using himari

[steady canyon]

are any of the current banners worth pulling for for raids/high lvl content?

[opaque dagger]

So it won't work unless you get more gear and UE40

[grim finch]

tor without shanako? 💀

[stable tulip]

was told to use iwak>nyfuuka

[opaque dagger]

That's if you groggy setup

[polar orbit]

that was probably assuming you were borrowing a max s.mika

[opaque dagger]

But you clearly cannot 1 core to begin with

So all of those ideas get thrown out the window

[loud knoll]

totally doable if you don't care about speed

[echo oar]

none right now, nor for a month

[stable tulip]

I was doing this out of curiosity and needed help understanding the calculator, that's what this was all about

[echo oar]

maaaaaybe magicals if you have the pyros to spare, but check that you can pull on fest recollect, fest, kisaki/tyuuka, imari first

[polar orbit]

oh

[stable tulip]

I already knew I couldn't clear torment?

[opaque dagger]

I see, ok my bad

Apologies

But that clears Ins though

[polar orbit]

i think you can clear i believe in you

[stable tulip]

like don't get me wrong I'm glad to get the info to see what needs to be done, but I was just trying to get my current stats calculated

[opaque dagger]

But yea, if you wanna clear with what you have

The only way is to

• P1 with other AoE
• P2 2 core with UE40 Meeka and better hat and borrowed Hanako Swimsuit

I don't see how else you can reasonably do this

[stable tulip]

yeah that second part is easier than the first one, that's actually why the calculations stopped mattering

[grim finch]

[stable tulip]

I can't clear AoE

[opaque dagger]

Question is: do you even have anything to get to P2

This idea is pointless if you cannot drag yourself into P2

[stable tulip]

uhh, lvl87 dsaori?

[grim finch]

doable

[opaque dagger]

That...might work

Bring Tsubaki in case you eat explosions

[stable tulip]

what?

[opaque dagger]

And Serina

[grim finch]

will take some effort

but its doable

[opaque dagger]

Ye that's honestly better than needing Nonomi

[grim finch]

as long as she 1 ex mobs, it should be ez

[stable tulip]

the eating explosions part is ez, done it several tests before. real problem is being surrounded, big guy, turrets

[opaque dagger]

That's why Saori Dress goes after those instantly

Prioritize killing them

[loud knoll]

sure, bring tank, bring healer, take it slow, leave 1 mob at the end of each wave and regen energy

[opaque dagger]

^

Leaving 2-3 alive is actually good for cost regen

[loud knoll]

someone like s.koharu can help too

[stable tulip]

account too new, don't have skoharu

[opaque dagger]

I doubt they have her

Ye I was gonna say, no way bro is coping so hard if they had Koharu Swimsuit

[stable tulip]

I joined like june last year

[loud knoll]

i tried s.koharu myself and was very annoying (cubes always survive), switched for ichika despite more cost

[stable tulip]

I detest playing games on mobile so had to wait for pc release, and yeah didn't think about emu at the time

to this day despite having the game on my phone now I can't do anything battle related on it, phone chugs

[opaque dagger]

2 hit moment

Hanako Swimsuit 6 hit unironically superior for Chesed

[loud knoll]

in blue she worked fine, probably my skoharu just not big enough

[opaque dagger]

Like, everything in her kit benefits Chesed

[opaque dagger]

First hit kills mob, second hit kills sweeper

But for this both hits went into mob so yea

[grim finch]

-def when boss has negative def

[stable pollen]

Who should I go for with free ten pulls… Fuyu or Miyo?

[old rose]

fuyu

[feral jetty]

okay.

we take those

[loud knoll]

Fuyu or Ritsu

[ripe mason]

Damn never got a good third wave clear in mock but got a decent run first ticket

[slate sky]

Fuyu

[torn thorn]

Oh yeah I gotta check if this GA ticket lines up with anything

[dim frigate]

magical girls

[torn thorn]

shina

[wanton pilot]

It expires before magical no

[polar orbit]

this one makes it

[wanton pilot]

Ahh this raid yea

[torn thorn]

Last one alr got used

I had like, 50 pulls worth of tickets

[proven dove]

I know café ap goes to mail if after claim my total ap will surpass 999, and I know that achievements ap isn't claimable in that case.

What about ap via pvp coins refresh and ap via pyros ?

[loud knoll]

you cant buy with pyro (and actually can't do most claim things) when 999. Only can buy pvp ones

[old rose]

you cannot ap refresh beyond 999

it just doesn't let you

you can pvp refresh at 999, just goes to mail for a day

[polar orbit]

the free 10 from the whale shop also goes into your mailbox when at 999, but it lasts for 7 days

[loud knoll]

always can fail some mission and make it 998 as per guide, it unlocks things

[proven dove]

Alright good enough, thanks :3 I'll send as much ap as possible from Saturday to sunday :p so that ep count per week becomes 0 again

[old rose]

i love chesed

[plush delta]

Anw, aside from 4cost n 😎, any other reason why aru over toki/dhina on malkuth?

[old rose]

she's a normal dps

for the purposes of autoing it at least

toki dhina are stance n stuff

[loud knoll]

it should die to next shot even with closed core. probably

[old rose]

yea I just shot the closed ball

but supposedly this team can 40m, just haven't figured it out

[midnight river]

100% stab trust

[plush delta]

🤢

Stab pala kau

[proven dove]

Toki works the best against enemies with high def.

About aru, I think it's because she doesn't have red eff in her kit, which makes her attacks powerful against non red enemies

[plush delta]

No need for mults anw so auto seems to be the reason

Seeing that they auto'd malkut

It's quite the chore tbf to hit some flat n tall clankers

Everyday

[loud knoll]

with these non-ue specials even?
I personally never managed one pan with similar team and abandoned it alltogether

[old rose]

i ran the calc and it's doable

there was one guy who did it without ue kisaki

well... has ue

but not ue40

[plush delta]

Ssg not ueing kiki

[polar orbit]

mine is also 4 star

[old rose]

tbh I will very likely end up having to ue40 kisaki for a shot at luna krkg

[steep vortex]

mine is also 4 star

[old rose]

but praying I don't have to and then I get a dupe on tyuuka banner

actually like 1000 eligma save

[plush delta]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-pinocchio-lie-long-nose-not-telling-the-truth-gif-17524233

[obsidian heath]

holy f2p

[old rose]

fr non ue himari p1 as well

[obsidian heath]

what is buff retention

[steep vortex]

oh hey thats the comp im using

gonna ue mine for comfy tho

dajin said that p1 is a pain in the ass without ue mine

[olive light]

A bit cope. But finally got my first torment clear (started during shupos)

First two rooms just shredded my students

[old rose]

koharu p1 without ue himari

p2 without ue kisaki

p2 without ue40 mreisa

[plush delta]

Ssg krkk balding

[old rose]

so therefore I can just do it all with 3* himari ue30 mreisa and 3* kisaki

[obsidian heath]

ok but missing both kisaki and msreisa is a different thing

[old rose]

[plush delta]

Might as well bricc both of em

[opaque dagger]

Isn't P1
Hanako
Meeka
Rio
Meeka
Copy
Hanako
Seia
Meeka
Meeka
Aru
Hanako
Rio
Hanako
Hanako
Copy
Meeka
Seia
Meeka
Hanako
?

[steep vortex]

i’m giving mreisa ue40 immediately

[old rose]

dno what is written down

[hollow saddle]

https://youtu.be/KqVgn6CjxsA

[opaque dagger]

Sequence of skills used for the entirety of P1

[old rose]

i don't ever smika for gauge actually tho

[opaque dagger]

That's the rotation I would use with Rio

Ok that's where you are losing out

[old rose]

i enter p2 earlier lol

[opaque dagger]

Do you

[old rose]

but yea the ref I saw actually puts smika into stance

which also I do not do

[opaque dagger]

This one gets you to P2 in like, 70-80s

[old rose]

well I'm the same timing im pretty sure

you use daru at 2:40.100 right before you enter p2 to trigger smika basic

so that it triggers again sooner and you can start core dps when you actually want to instead of having to wait 5 seconds

[opaque dagger]

Hm

Ye that's the cost recovery diff

I naturally trigger that before entering P2

I wonder if you can just use this skill sequence but adjust timings to account for cost recovery
https://youtu.be/QnKBiKMMUQE

For me, hardest part was figuring out skill sequence

Once I got that down the timing is pretty easy to adjust/figure out

Also, yea, the range with Rio is kinda ass, but you run Kisaki Aru Dress so that's better ranges than Nagi Seia Swimsuits

I stole the entire P1 sequence and then just modified P2 accordingly since I needed a bit more stall on Wave 3

[polar orbit]

i met my goal with 2.5 days to spare. Maybe i can get to 100/120?

nice

[eternal thorn]

[mint sapphire]

bullshit raid, trash raid, abysmal dogshit raid, terrible raid, remove this raid from the game please and thank you goodbye

[tropic saddle]

I am free

[atomic arrow]

[wicked vine]

holy whel

how many refreshes a day?

9?

12?

[karmic hill]

what's the next total assault so i can prepare

[snow portal]

Geburah

[karmic hill]

bruhhhh

i love minmaxing hardcore

[lost wagon]

Will I survive 2 more days chat?

[sacred mango]

If your in EU server

[obsidian heath]

2 days maybe
3 days nah

[lost wagon]

Yes

How am I already a rank down

[tropic saddle]

Okay for what it is
There's more tickets yet

[pastel mortar]

@lost wagon You gave up on torment?

[lost wagon]

Ye

I'll try again tomorrow

Screw it I'll try now

Last time

[simple igloo]

i be lievr in you

[past spruce]

I overfarmed a bit

[marble gust]

🧹

[loud knoll]

Archangel (maid)

[lone widget]

do we have anything special for next wildhunt event

[simple igloo]

you

[candid gust]

you

[proven dove]

3 weeks event

[simple igloo]

any1going to burnt tix on satsuki

[young lotus]

Fuck this game man

I get this run first try when all the other times I mald other raids it takes me hours

and the one raid I hate

[candid gust]

slacc

still mald

[young lotus]

I was planning on slacc

but like I said

[candid gust]

"Was planning"

[young lotus]

first try

[candid gust]

There is no planning

[young lotus]

[candid gust]

[proven dove]

To each his trials, and this is yours :p

[young lotus]

because this raid is a sick fucking joke

[candid gust]

Chesed speedrun is always ass

[proven dove]

Nope

I'm not a believer in ue60 special dps

[simple igloo]

hm

would be cool if max cost was a buff

and not a stat

[west perch]

not this guy?

[eternal thorn]

[pallid inlet]

Is that causew

[eternal thorn]

Yeah

[past spruce]

Chesed is pretty easy if you aren't balding

[west perch]

exactly

[grim pine]

which boss isn't

[past spruce]

Goz on the other hand has the bs trains

[west perch]

but goz will always be a bitch!

[proven dove]

Goz is by far more enjoyable for me than chesed

[grim pine]

[past spruce]

You are balding it aren't you

[west perch]

focus fire is a goz mechanic

[past spruce]

[proven dove]

I did once in blue chesed, but only to clear. It was my first torment.

Last purple torment ga I did 3 high insane (no seia/ui so 3 mika's ex per core were not possible) and this ga I cleared everything once then slacked.

[pale fractal]

petition to delete chesed, such a horrible raid

[simple igloo]

is the p1 that bad

[proven dove]

I'm just not fond of the raid mechanics

[simple igloo]

tyuuka , aoe , nuke thats it

wat could be so bad hm

[west perch]

y'all are counting steps and manipulating positioning to get optimal outcomes when none of it is even close to necessary for clear

[past spruce]

Yeah

[obsidian heath]

holy clickbait

[marble gust]

yall hating on chesed 2y after shanako

[west perch]

and then mika walks in front of tyuuka

[marble gust]

no gratitude...

[pallid inlet]

Because of course

[west perch]

or your tyuuka cancels wakamo basic

[obsidian heath]

"they tried to fix him" no, they actually fixed him
*for one run

[west perch]

or you brought shanako to p1 and your rotation is dogshit

[past spruce]

[pale fractal]

[west perch]

or your tyuuka walks too far to the right because you clicked 3 pixels more than usual

[past spruce]

I just use Nutsuki

[marble gust]

sorry its me

[west perch]

anyways, p1 wasn't the point of that

[midnight river]

Sorry I needed to check the account

[west perch]

it's that focus fire is a dogshit mechanic even if it was made for goz

[past spruce]

Focus Fire on a boss with a big hitbox, what could go wrong?

[pale fractal]

chesed horrible raid i will slacc

[past spruce]

I just need to mald a bit for purple score

[grim pine]

every tyuuka repo is a position reset

[past spruce]

And I should be good

[grim pine]

meanwhile chesed randomness accumulates

even first wave just spawning is fcking random in ins

by the end of p1 everything is wild

[west perch]

meanwhile in chesed you can bring a decent makoto and 1 core without any trouble

[strange ridge]

I mean even with a big hitbox of an enemy, pre-frontface Goz, you can still not hit it at cruicial times

[past spruce]

?

[grim pine]

absolute trash

[past spruce]

Wdym random?

[strange ridge]

Or even pre-card reveal

[grim pine]

random is random

[strange ridge]

You lnow, the blue/red one

[west perch]

We have enough absolute aoe that ins randomness barely matters

[past spruce]

Yeah

[west perch]

unless ofc, you really care about score

[past spruce]

Unless you use the bald strats

[strange ridge]

...I hated Goz pre-frontface

[west perch]

in which case you're malding for score, not that the raid is hard

[past spruce]

Which I know you are if you are complaining that chesed is hard

[west perch]

clearing goz is an exercise in patience in itself