#💬gameplay-discussion

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copper crescent
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Oh

west perch
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well yeah we do as well

pallid inlet
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Id be impressed if someone one shots goz from full hp

round kayak
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true true

feral jetty
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okay that is fair

pallid inlet
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With baldris

copper crescent
round kayak
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I do want other TA bosses

copper crescent
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We have the stats

round kayak
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I also want new GA bosses wtf

pallid inlet
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True

copper crescent
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And the mald isn't that bad

round kayak
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fucking srkr for the 4th time smh

marble gust
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no heres another binah ga

feral jetty
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57 minutes remaining on the mika team

copper crescent
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Binah haven't went for a while on jp

feral jetty
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do we think it's successful?

copper crescent
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So it can happen

west perch
proven dove
copper crescent
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Luna binah GA and we're all like wtf

pallid inlet
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What

marble gust
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let it be outdoor rbp

pallid inlet
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Lunatic would be blue torment kaiten we got last time

feral jetty
copper crescent
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Ooooooo

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Makes sense

marble gust
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so another srkr ga

copper crescent
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F no

round kayak
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oh god

copper crescent
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Can happen but f no

pallid inlet
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The baldshino

slate sky
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Kaiten GA

round kayak
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might as well give me geburah GA

proven dove
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Srkr ga is next month and next 4 months AronaJoy

west perch
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greg ga!

proven dove
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In global

pallid inlet
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Would be nice if indoor Jerome

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GA

slate sky
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There's no sign of it getting lunatic despite it being next in order

copper crescent
west perch
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I think bhimari's debuff counts as 1 debuff right? She targets highest HP too, which is greg main body.

copper crescent
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Binah is the only one that jp hasn't gotten for the longest

slate sky
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Shiro Kuro has a higher chance atm due to the fes units

slate sky
feral jetty
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though binah did technically get a rerun in world raid

pallid inlet
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But I dunno if that’s good

copper crescent
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Oh right

pallid inlet
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On yellow that might be good since yellow eff buff

round kayak
slate sky
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Guessing either goz or yesod for next TA

copper crescent
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So this might be tough damn

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We can't do goz ga

pallid inlet
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Blue yesod will die

copper crescent
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Has to be non-luna bosses

slate sky
copper crescent
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We haven't had ga with luna bosses

slate sky
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😔

west perch
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I'm guessing new TA

round kayak
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so thats the pattern

proven dove
copper crescent
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Yup

round kayak
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bruh thats bs

copper crescent
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And binah/chesed is out bc world raid

round kayak
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SmolHoshinoFumo 🚬

pallid inlet
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If we are gonna rerun the same GA bosses might as well have them on a different terrain

copper crescent
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So we only have 3 options for ga

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Hiero kaiten srkr

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Unless they pop out peroro luna ga

slate sky
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Kaiten

round kayak
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are you serious

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another srkr GA

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💀

copper crescent
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Hiero most likely tbh

pallid inlet
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Why can’t they rerun the lunatic bosses on GA

copper crescent
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Longest out of the 3

round kayak
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guess ill take hiero

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just not srkr

slate sky
copper crescent
slate sky
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Lunatic GA

proven dove
round kayak
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looks like they are using the GA as a testing ground for luna development I assume

pallid inlet
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Blue torment kaiten was basically a lunatic

proven dove
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No it's a lot easier

slate sky
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Good times while that was still hard

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Now kuroko is out

round kayak
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now if blue tor kaiten comes out today it will just be evaporated by mecha aris

pallid inlet
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Even on field

copper crescent
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Especially if aaris aa breaks shield

marble gust
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😟

west perch
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yakumo + 3X beam byebye p1

copper crescent
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Even worse on urban

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P2 is just u bringing buffers

marble gust
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oh nvm theres another before

copper crescent
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Bc aaris ex is 1tap

proven dove
marble gust
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last ga was blue tor

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my first tor

copper crescent
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And kaiten p2 can't kill you before aaris ex

feral jetty
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in the beginning people were trying to make makoto wanpan work

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only for iori to later end up coming out on top

past spruce
proven dove
past spruce
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Yellow torment was like a year ago

marble gust
copper crescent
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We can't have Kaiten GA tho bc then we won't have luna Kaiten until after a while

round kayak
slate sky
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There's no sign of kaiten lunatic coming

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Both fes units blue atk

copper crescent
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It's been so long...

slate sky
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Rio is hiero tuned

round kayak
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new blue raid?

copper crescent
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Yes

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We are anticipating

past spruce
copper crescent
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Bc of subaru

feral jetty
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it was really funny, people were like "oh no yellow greg is gonna be such a gigawhale raid it's gonna suck" and then in came iori with a steel chair

proven dove
copper crescent
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If u saw the thing in vol 6

past spruce
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Yeah

copper crescent
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Might be that

past spruce
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High chance

round kayak
copper crescent
past spruce
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So she breaks shield

round kayak
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what's this 8 from?

marble gust
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dude what 30

proven dove
copper crescent
marble gust
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oh

obsidian heath
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if she breaks shield just like that she's gonna be one of the top picks for red
no built-in effbuffs !

past spruce
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Oh true

marble gust
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powercreep fr

west perch
summer dew
copper crescent
round kayak
copper crescent
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It's gotta be one way or another

mint sapphire
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my blue archive

copper crescent
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Green archive 🦖

frail glen
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Blue archive 🐳

slate sky
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Green kaiten GA torment ReisaStare

frail glen
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Green geburah 2027

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it will happen, source: trust me bro

slate sky
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Blank cutoff like the blue hovercraft

copper crescent
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Hmm

wanton pilot
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Green geburah GA torment

copper crescent
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I was gonna say what if we have another snagisa but I think the two debts probably wouldn't stack

frail glen
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I only played for so long
does BA usually run a Binah GA with new armor matching the newly released fest dps color right after?

west perch
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fes buffers tend to have unique effects anyway

copper crescent
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Yeah

west perch
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well I say that but we only have 2

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rio's copy and snagi's debt

proven dove
feral jetty
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2?

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there's at least 4

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if you count kei and shoshi

west perch
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unique effects

copper crescent
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Nyfuuka rio snagi are the trinity imo of unique effects

west perch
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I mean if we're counting kei's accumulation as a unique effect ig

frail glen
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oh yeah, ny fuuka is cut cost by half, not by a set amount

feral jetty
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kei has her accumulation and shoshi was the first ever eff buffer

mint sapphire
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imagine orange geburah

copper crescent
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Nyfuuka has the effect of making your card cycle 3 ex rotation instead of 4

feral jetty
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actually do we still count special effects if it was completely unique at some point?

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like shoshi was the first ever to have eff buffs and wakamo was the first ever to use accumulation

west perch
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Not for this case, because we're assuming nobody in the future will copy like Rio

copper crescent
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Well I'm saying nyfuuka rio snagi don't have anyone doing what they do

queen plank
frail glen
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I am predicting 2027 orange dps Mika

west perch
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And nobody else will debt like snagi

queen plank
summer dew
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slow but idc it's whatever let me sleep this week

copper crescent
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Seia and ui doesn't rotate like nyfuuka

slate sky
copper crescent
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But they rotate like each other

mint sapphire
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nah they're gonna release swimsuit chiaki and market her as green mika and then release a fes mika alt who is a way better green dps

slate sky
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Then release a bunch of subpar non fes dps of that color which has huge drawbacks

west perch
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die geburah die WoKeke

wanton pilot
proven dove
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It's a waifu invest after all

copper crescent
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Or striker that does both striker dmg and special dmg as a striker

summer dew
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i'd b50 ue60 lb75 swimsuit chiaki too

proven dove
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Chiaki may get her alt next 6 months though, with ibuki & iroha

mint sapphire
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ohhhh you meant 3x 25

summer dew
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yes

summer dew
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like my dsaori gonna need that healing lb ~~when we get a healer saori in 2030 ReisaDerp ~~

copper crescent
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We don't know yet

west perch
wanton pilot
copper crescent
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But judging by numbers she might

slate sky
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Her aoe is good too?

copper crescent
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Similar to dhina

slate sky
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Wow

copper crescent
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But more area

feral jetty
proven dove
feral jetty
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better lb25 my OG hanako's atk

copper crescent
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Hits more targets but average each target adds up to about the same

slate sky
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We need lunatic blue greg so sserika can come out on top there

summer dew
west perch
pliant bluff
copper crescent
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Dhina 100% 55% 10%x3, Aaris 100% 15%x9

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Actually I forgot how many were there

west perch
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nutsuki is 302% x16

mint sapphire
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but for real - if they release a chiaki alt and she's a dps and she'll be woefully and shamelessly replaced by someone within 3 months (i.e. before people would get to use her properly in top play), i will actually drop the game

west perch
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she will be a healer AkariJiii

copper crescent
frail glen
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Chiaki alt is going to be welfare

west perch
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and nutsuki's def pierce

frail glen
pliant bluff
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Well there's this new color caled green so maybe green content will appear in the near future

copper crescent
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No **

west perch
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don't forget nutsuki is hitting at 0 def vs everyone else

summer dew
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time for tix fraud #2

copper crescent
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The advantages don't rly matter as much as the final dmg performance

slate sky
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Sserika surely with the guaranteed crit as special

west perch
summer dew
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tax evasion haha

copper crescent
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U can have someone with SS mood, def ignore, +100% dmg dealt and ex dmg dealt, +300% blue buff, +400% cdmg, ignores boss dmg reduction do 4m x 16 final dmg and then have someone else D mood, resist color, no buff, cannot crit do 100m x 1 for the same cost

proven dove
west perch
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except nutsuki works insanely well rotationally as well

copper crescent
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Yes

mint sapphire
copper crescent
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But Im just saying we won't know who's better until it comes

west perch
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bah, that doesn't matter. Shigure also wasn't

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and yet oshig is human rights!

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reisa is a tank and mreisa is also human rights!

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michiru into dmich!

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heck isn't dmich playing into that picture theme as well?

feral jetty
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yeah

west perch
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just Believe™!

marble gust
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no dj saori

dull lodge
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erm

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uh

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should I 2 pan insane ?

wanton pilot
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🎱 yes

marble gust
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bruh i was schizo and thought she was ue40 already

proven dove
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You should 1pan insane

dull lodge
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haven't tried it but

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well

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shanako it I guess

proven dove
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Shanako in red purple and cherino in yellow (comfier)

dull lodge
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so

patent vault
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Id do that if I have cherino!!!
Going to have to make due with shanako on yellow insane.

dull lodge
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shanako st dps and what else?

proven dove
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Shanako is aoe against mobs

Dhina in red, smika in purple, mika in yellow

  • Hyperbuffers kisaki rio daru shoshi etc
gleaming wren
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hello gpd

feral jetty
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hello

proven dove
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hello

gleaming wren
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i have not done GA

atomic arrow
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suh moyaiHD

gleaming wren
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hi avren

dull lodge
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ook

proven dove
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Good luck :3

west perch
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GA is truly slacc hoshinoblindstare

mint sapphire
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"seeeensei~♪ kanoe, ureshii na~♡"

dim frigate
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🛐

gleaming wren
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i wanted to send a message but joe is here

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so I'll wait

mint sapphire
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so you're saying i should look at your message history

gleaming wren
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No

mint sapphire
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too bad

gleaming wren
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Damn

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goodbye gpd

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it was a fun while

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i want to give a shout-out to avren for accompanying me on this journey

feral jetty
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had to eject with AAs again

steep vortex
dull lodge
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hmm should I invest sseia

summer dew
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do you need her atm?

feral jetty
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would investing into her right now get you a clear that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do?

frail glen
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just curious
did you guys actually raise and built moimoi?
I never really built her as a new player

feral jetty
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yeah

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she's really good

frail glen
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where else is she used other than yellow chesed though?

wanton pilot
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Shes izunafreee

frail glen
feral jetty
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she carried our asses back then before shanako and all that

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she'll probably see use in lunatic

dry lintel
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i dont think ive ever seen this. same exact hp left and mika damage on two different resets

feral jetty
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hi practic thanks for the yellow chesed clear

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i'll be malding to find your makoto again tomorrow

dry lintel
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actually now that you returned you can add me

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i think i have spot on my list

feral jetty
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oh sick

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-1 hour of malding borrows

dry lintel
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im 50/50 lemme free up a spot

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if youre out of that menu here is my code AYZCQTDZ

feral jetty
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request sent

dry lintel
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accepted

feral jetty
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awesome

dry lintel
west perch
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even on my current JP account I'm using her

untold tusk
lone widget
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life saver for shanakolet

frail glen
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if I built ny mutsuki already

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should i still build moimoi?

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their roles kinda overlaps right?

feral jetty
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well one is blue and one is yellow

lone widget
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u dont have to build her if u already have good mobbing units ReisaDerp

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but shes strong and free so

frail glen
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i mean they are just for mobs right?
I think they can overcome color differences

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idk I have not tested

dry lintel
loud knoll
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build koyuki instead

untold tusk
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Koyuki is yellow aoe?

lone widget
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koyuki is for nihaha pretty much

loud knoll
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blue

untold tusk
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Blue aoe there are not lot of options

lyric hatch
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S hanako is basically blue aoe

untold tusk
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SHanako the best aoe student

tall glacier
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Koyuki basic aoe is 0 cost for smaller waves KoyukiStare

strange ridge
loud knoll
frail glen
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S hanako is the best healer

untold tusk
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SHanako too balanced

loud knoll
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New purple content seem to be balanced around having actual single target rather than shanako brainrot

pallid inlet
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Which is good

untold tusk
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Is there an immortalisation this month in jp?

pallid inlet
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Who knows

summer dew
marble gust
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ttt

pallid inlet
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T

untold tusk
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I see the event immort schedule so is possible Ibuki immort happens 2 months later that is good

pallid inlet
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That sure is good

untold tusk
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Ibuki not viable?
I guess I just get for roster then

west perch
untold tusk
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I know is only one immort per month usually unless there is none

west perch
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is that right?

untold tusk
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I would not really know

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Is camp a "must roll"?

proven dove
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I am expecting a mini livestream at the end of the seimi rerun in jp :3

full granite
proven dove
untold tusk
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I am skipping camp and hoping for spooks instead

proven dove
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Correct thing to do in your case

copper crescent
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Yeah you don't need camp hare that much

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Could live with kei atk buff

untold tusk
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The plan is currently Dress Ako, SIroha, SHanako recollect banner, 5.5 fes banner, SHiyori, magical rerun and Dress Arius

copper crescent
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And kisaki ako

pallid inlet
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Sure is a plan

copper crescent
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Kei 51% atk buff isn't as high as chare but if you're just clearing insane, it's more than enough

untold tusk
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I am hoping that 5.5 fes designs are skippable

copper crescent
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Good chance it might be

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But no confirmation

proven dove
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51% atk is sure big enough, we ditched chare for rio's atk buff

pallid inlet
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It’s just speculation

copper crescent
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For us they aren't skippable but for you it's speculation

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We don't actually know what will happen

pastel mortar
untold tusk
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Who do you think will be 5.5 fes students?

proven dove
untold tusk
copper crescent
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You'd probably end up with yesod extreme if you skip magicals

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Think idols and geb

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Magicals and yesod are like idols and geb

pallid inlet
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That’s true

proven dove
copper crescent
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Do u have bhoshi and troko

pallid inlet
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Also there’s probably more raids where the magicals have a good usecase

copper crescent
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Might be a good idea to have enough pyrox to keep up with the constant fest expense

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F2p rly only have enough for fest + one banner between fests

pastel mortar
# copper crescent Think idols and geb

Problem is I can't save up in idols/kisaki banner since you got a 2nd must pull there unless I get super lucky and with fest and recollect in the horizon pyro planner is looking red with magicals.

pastel mortar
copper crescent
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You can borrow msuzumi, but I'd recommend looking at comps to see who you have and who u don't

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No ins isn't that bad tbh

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It's just coins loss for one week

pallid inlet
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Insane is a bit more forgiving I guess

proven dove
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I'd choose imari anyday over chare. Always meta limited over meta permanent (kisaki may be an exception)

pallid inlet
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There might be a few “alternatives” to chare

pastel mortar
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Yeah not skipping imari or kisaki just optimizing my future plans

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Cuz I'm also shoshilet

loud knoll
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::nezo::

proven dove
copper crescent
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U can live being shoshilet

pallid inlet
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:nezo:

proven dove
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Do you have shanako and dhina

pastel mortar
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Yep

copper crescent
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Since we have so many good buffers now that if you're just doing tor, dhina's own red buff is good enough

pallid inlet
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D hina has her own red eff buffs

west perch
untold tusk
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MiyuPeek SHoshinoless?

pastel mortar
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Mika and wakamo too got them last fest. Sad cuz I still need to pull for recollect

west perch
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we always valued striker healers and imari is an exceptional one

frozen chasm
proven dove
# pastel mortar Yep

I'd prioritize shoshi & idols first. Magicals are ? in your case, and I hope you spook kisaki during those pulls before her banner

loud knoll
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at least you hopefully won't need full spark since its only 1 unit

west perch
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we can "lmao" on tmari now because we have options but she's still a striker healer at the end of the day

copper crescent
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Shoshino is pull if u have pyrox

pallid inlet
copper crescent
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Ur not gonna die without her

west perch
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just very very very sad

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on red raids

pallid inlet
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Basically any red raid other than gaybruh

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Maybe greg

copper crescent
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U can still clear tor without shoshino

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And plat

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In many servers

summer dew
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what about red set without shosh

pallid inlet
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Nezo once cleared Greg 40m without shoshino

west perch
pallid inlet
copper crescent
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U can still get f74 without shosh I believe

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F99 nah

pallid inlet
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Even if it’s possible, you better be prepared with the other students needed

west perch
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maybe once we finally get another red effectiveness buffer

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but that's not happening

proven dove
frozen chasm
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74 is still piss easy with a maxed b yoshimi

copper crescent
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Brio

frozen chasm
pallid inlet
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If you don’t have s hoshino, what are the chances you have the other niche students for red set

pastel mortar
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See I have enough for the must pulls (idols/recollect/kisaki/pre fes + fes). Just seeing if I should ditch magicals since I'm looking for seia rerun. And the question is where does chare land in all this?

west perch
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and now imari is to lunatic

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it wasn't even that long ago that tyuuka was literally a must-pull status similar to what imari is enjoying right now

copper crescent
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U only need tyuuka and kisaki from that banner right

pastel mortar
west perch
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and now the last time I've used tyuuka was literally for goz and not in any other raid

copper crescent
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Oh

frozen chasm
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s hosh is fest

west perch
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archive fes, no less

frozen chasm
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if you miss fest its a long wait

west perch
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which is still a stupid ass banner

frozen chasm
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while others can be spooked

copper crescent
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Well they have wak and mika

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Nvm

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Ugh

west perch
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oh yeah I did use tyuuka for yellow

proven dove
# west perch and now imari is to lunatic

You're looking at it from a lunatic lens, I'm looking at imari from an enabling perspective, I didn't clear any luna yet I've used her a lot and she made my life a lot easier.

Gotta consider his roster isn't that much developed so any enhancement in comps is welcomed.

west perch
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not purple tho

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yeah, when tyuuka came out she enabled a lot of bullshit as well

pastel mortar
# copper crescent Ugh

Kinda of a headache no? I can't predict my luck so I'm left with planning for worst case.

west perch
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her moniker was quite literally "the unit that allowed other units to survive when they shouldn't"

tall glacier
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Bringing aru to hiero ReisaDerp

copper crescent
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I personally would take a gamble bc u might get kisaki early

proven dove
copper crescent
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Either u get msuzumi early or kisaki

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Unless ur luck is super bad

proven dove
copper crescent
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On average I'd expect to have more chance of you getting early than not

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Still

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The headache is you might end up going back to pull mreisa

pastel mortar
copper crescent
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Yeah

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But I do think you're not gonna hit 400 for the kisaki shoshino banner

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Low chance you'd get no rate up for that long

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Like 1/8

pastel mortar
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Well for soshi I'll dip out unless I'm super close to a spark, and probably same for kisaki.

old rose
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odds are you don't go to spark for all of those

copper crescent
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Well you'd go to spark for magicals and idols tho

frozen chasm
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just get all of them in a 10 rolls

copper crescent
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Both are good to get, and bc they're limited, going back for the other is a pain

frozen chasm
copper crescent
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It's not worth it

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And if you're just missing troko for the aris kei fest, you might not end up 400 either

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But it's a lot closer than kisaki/shoshi

pastel mortar
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It's about where I hit the rate up too. I can dip out if it's rate up in 50 or smth. And all those banners have a 2nd students worth considering.

copper crescent
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Yeah but for magical and idols I'd go for both if you hit rate up before

pastel mortar
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Idols definitely

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Damn magicals too shiroko

copper crescent
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Also you'd get more pyrox

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The planner hasn't accounted for world raid pyrox

pastel mortar
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Yeah seia will rerun in 2 months after probably

copper crescent
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If u look closely

old rose
#

ur only 28k in the red those are rookie numbers

west perch
#

I have 4 chances to go for tmari

copper crescent
#
  1. Limited scamtix
#
  1. Tmari banner
west perch
#

i sacc on fuyu, i hit 75% or sacc on magigals, or i sacc on takane

copper crescent
#

Oh that

#

I didn't think of it that way

west perch
#

it's cuz I have 4 sparks between now and tmari HiyoriDespair

copper crescent
#

I have 1 spark

#

Can't compete

west perch
#

come to think of it, magigals is the first limited I planned 400 on

marble gust
#

never planned 400 till shupos shitted on me

west perch
#

let's hope I do as well as shupos and get free ue50 mreisa

copper crescent
#

never planned 400 until uneru rio shitted on me

west perch
#

damn I kinda feel bad for bieng lucky shiroko

copper crescent
#

Uneru rio 400 made me pull only one banner between fest from now on

#

I'm fine with taking the L on yesod

#

As long as I get the W on hiero

#

That's what Domo would have done

west perch
#

holy I got kei greeting me today maripray

#

log in 7 days and 2 of them is kei

copper crescent
#

Kei is so precious

snow portal
#

Crafting scammed

#

No gift/shiny nodes

copper crescent
#

Happens

candid gust
#

AP consumer

copper crescent
#

Peav u pulling fest reroll?

#

I think jp fes banner ends in 60 mins

#

If no flower/shiny/radiant node 1, gold should be next and then copper and then metal

candid gust
copper crescent
#

Gold has artifacts, copper has bd, metal has random stuff but can have t4s

#

8.33% t4 bd from copper beats 10.8% t4 tn from plat

calm flicker
#

Definitely not spoiler

copper crescent
#

I will wait

#

I know she will come

loud knoll
#

Which update will be continuation of arius story?

calm flicker
#

Iirc, after the next WH event

copper surge
#

Glorious F75

copper crescent
#

v6c2 in 3 weeks, v6c3 in 7 weeks from now

calm flicker
loud knoll
#

Ah its 3 parts, not 2 FubukiNice

west perch
#

im literally eva malding missions HiyoriDespair

#

nope not doing that till lv70

#

nvm my roster is dogshit for comms

copper crescent
#

Wtf

copper surge
#

@odd geyser can you show me your RFF comp?

dull lodge
#

uhhhh

#

chat

copper crescent
#

Iori is so good for comms

#

Hi

dull lodge
#

how do you guys 1 pan yellow?

copper crescent
#

I hyperbuff shanako and mob using shanako

calm flicker
copper surge
#

How big Acari needs to be to tank the ball in Chok?

copper crescent
#

Then I wait for 10 cost and pre buff mika

dull lodge
copper crescent
#

And then I open chesed

#

Oh

#

Uh

dull lodge
#

my first team

#

I 2 paned it

#

but

#

it wasn't good

copper crescent
#

Low score?

dull lodge
#

yea

#

mock of couse

copper crescent
#

What score

dull lodge
#

27m3

simple igloo
#

hm

copper crescent
#

Hmm

#

I went with rio kisaki daru seia mika shanako

simple igloo
#

do i need to really have to play good at rhyth games to get max stuff

copper crescent
#

My shanako ue40 mmmm mmm

dull lodge
calm flicker
copper crescent
#

Yeah

dull lodge
#

rate my shana

calm flicker
#

Ancient even

copper crescent
#

UH

polar orbit
copper crescent
#

UHHH

simple igloo
dull lodge
#

:3

calm flicker
copper crescent
#

Well if u hyperbuff might be able to get away

dull lodge
simple igloo
#

wah

copper crescent
#

Just cycle shanako super fast

simple igloo
#

wym not enough for ins

calm flicker
#

Mxxx

dull lodge
#

why this is expensive

calm flicker
#

777

frozen chasm
calm flicker
#

Good luck

copper crescent
#

Nah it's enough

simple igloo
#

my 3* can kill to drop the comms bot on tor wym ue30 not enough 1 tap ins

copper crescent
#

He has kisaki and rio

frozen chasm
#

what do you mean tank the ball

dull lodge
copper crescent
#

Yes

full granite
#

you should t10 her

calm flicker
#

Ideally, T9

copper crescent
#

Ideally t9

dull lodge
#

alr

#

t9 then

calm flicker
#

Because u will use her again

#

In 2 TAs

full granite
#

and again and again

dull lodge
#

man

full granite
#

and some more

#

until you die

copper crescent
#

Yup again and again

dull lodge
#

76m will be gone in 1s

#

😭😭

copper crescent
#

Likely until eos

#

I use her to speedrun every event

#

Event stage 1-8 super speed

#

She used to contribute a good bit for half the raids, but now it's down to like 1/3

#

Bc new kits overtook her at certain niche

dull lodge
#

this is all I can give

copper crescent
#

Now go test that out

full granite
#

no t9 pin 😔

#

no crit 😔

copper crescent
#

Rio first then shanako own ex

#

On first wave

dull lodge
#

uh

copper crescent
#

Then shanako rio ex on second wave

full granite
#

even with rio it's not enough to one shot everything consistently

dull lodge
#

who's for striker?

#

2

calm flicker
#

Ideally blue tank

dull lodge
#

beside mika and shana

copper crescent
#

Mika shanako daru tsubaki ig

full granite
#

use sseia and heavy is lightwork

copper crescent
#

U don't rly need ui

#

Since it's 2ex kills

dull lodge
copper crescent
#

Yeah

#

Uh

dull lodge
#

priority?

copper crescent
#

Rio shanako kisaki

#

Rio buff shanako ex hopefully kills all

#

Mine does idk about yours

dull lodge
#

let's try it

copper crescent
#

Shanako own ex before shanako ex copied by rio

#

Then kisaki rotation and rotate back to shanako

#

Tsubaki will tank in the meantime

#

Hopefully she's built

#

Seems like she's decently built

dull lodge
#

t8 bag tsuba

#

she's good

copper crescent
#

Yeah

dull lodge
#

uh

#

maybe I should buff kisaki too

copper crescent
#

Uh?

#

I see

dull lodge
#

she didn't 1 shot with rio

copper crescent
#

A bit slower but yeah go kisaki

frozen chasm
full granite
#

what's your 2nd special

#

alongisde rio

copper crescent
#

Kisaki

#

It's in the screenshot

#

How about kisaki first then shanako

#

Then rio copy shanako and the clear second wave

full granite
#

why not just aru before hanako

copper crescent
#

Then rotate back

full granite
#

why kisaki

copper crescent
#

More consistent

full granite
#

should do the job regardless

copper crescent
#

Daru sometimes u crit sometimes u don't

#

Mobs don't die when u don't crit

#

And you end up with a mess where the students chase after the remaining sweepers

full granite
#

that's why I went sseia himari 😎

copper crescent
#

Changing shanako spray angle and how many she kills next spray

full granite
#

consistency

copper crescent
#

And then your runs get significantly different between resets

#

Now ur malding mob clear and team positions

full granite
#

2 raids of malding score and I'm already past ever doing it again

#

idk how yall don't get tired of it

copper crescent
#

Mald ain't worth it unless ur scorechasing

#

I personally don't mald

marble yacht
#

suzushi desune~~

copper crescent
#

I rarely go past 10 resets each tix

#

This tor chesed took me 4 resets

full granite
#

✨ tekiga✨

pastel mortar
#

@copper crescent sorry for going back to this, but what do you think would be higher priority if I pulled for magicals. Cuz I was going to prioritize suzumi not only for yesod but for her being a striker atk buffer that could help me in srkr or boat p2 for example. That's where the skip magicals and wait for chare came from.

supple star
dull lodge
#

close call

copper crescent
#

Damn ok

#

I didn't think u go that fast

copper crescent
dull lodge
#

Win

copper crescent
#

Priority for after pulling magical?

pastel mortar
#

In a dry spark scenario

supple star
old rose
#

it's not particularly close either

supple star
ancient star
#

Both are good, but M.Reisa enables much more

marble gust
#

enables what

old rose
#

all the content where you want a healer ReisaDerp

pastel mortar
#

Can't I just imari it then?

marble gust
#

what can she do that oshig cant

copper surge
copper crescent
#

Rotate faster

ancient star
odd geyser
marble gust
#

lol?

copper crescent
ancient star
#

124 Blue Chokmah ReisaDerp

copper crescent
#

Not seeing mreisa being needed for tor

copper surge
copper crescent
#

Comfy tors are every raid rn without her

odd geyser
echo oar
#

doesn't mreisa get you quite a bit more damage vs luna krkg than oshig

ancient star
#

No, but I mean, sure, O.Shigure covers more or less what M.Reisa does, but it obviously enables more options, not just for Torment but Lunatic

old rose
#

if we're being pedantic with the word "enables" then mreisa probably doesn't "enable" much aside from high frr floors

full granite
copper crescent
#

Yes luna is a good argument for mreisa but bro isn't doing luna

odd geyser
copper crescent
#

Likely not even until after mreisa rerun

echo oar
#

yeah mreisa cuts a team out of luna krkg at least

copper crescent
#

Definitely

echo oar
#

compared to oshig, which is 3 teams min

marble gust
ancient star
#

No one said that she is a must pull

round kayak
#

you pulling arch?

copper crescent
#

Well that's argument between you two

round kayak
polar orbit
#

Mreisa is kinda the imari of special slots in a way

marble gust
#

yes im getting both

#

mreisa needed for tiphy

#

sadl

odd geyser
copper crescent
#

Msuzumi for me if u have to pick between the two bc she makes yesod bearable

round kayak
#

also yeah mreisa ain't a must pull

pastel mortar
# copper surge you dont like the kung fu girl?

In that case can I just skip magicals entirely and save the pyros for chare. If I spooked her I just saved 24k for whatever students will be after seia's rerun after next fest? (Sorry I'm going full circles)

ancient star
#

In fact she is "Good to have" in the pulling guide for a reason, because yes, we can't expect most people to do harder content

full granite
#

Aint nobody got time to pull magical girls when takane is right there

polar orbit
#

Hard skip

copper crescent
#

The pulling guide is mostly for newbies bc ppl planning for luna already knows who they want

ancient star
#

But the argument / question here is / was that "M.Reisa or M.Suzumi?" M.Reisa 100%

marble gust
#

yea skipping a unique buffer is quite wise

round kayak
#

Magical girls don't equate to takane

copper crescent
#

If ur planning luna ur at least vet enough to know who ur pulling

round kayak
west perch
#

both are mid to any casual

polar orbit
#

I think pinning a unit as "lunatic only" is dumb cause lunatic units will in turn make torment and under easier to clear

round kayak
#

Who needs takane when we have snowtoki later on

polar orbit
calm flicker
#

I mean

supple star
#

Even if i had Oshiggy i'd still pull for MReisa

odd geyser
#

pull magic, spook takane ReisaStare

calm flicker
#

Yakumo

echo oar
#

I'm struggling to find any case where someone would really appreciate msuzumi over a hyperbuffer

#

outside of set?

calm flicker
#

Makes your life in Kaiten P1 easier

copper crescent
#

But if you're just clearing tors, having universal is enough

full granite
polar orbit
#

I still don't 1pan

ancient star
old rose
#

imari not a must pull because we have kok ReisaDerp

marble gust
#

so confidently skipping a unique buffer for a better-oshig?

calm flicker
echo oar
#

you heard it here first, tomoe must-have because unique buffs

full granite
marble gust
#

bussin

round kayak
#

The magical girls debate is pretty much dependent on your priorities imo

odd geyser
ancient star
echo oar
#

truuue, yeah I can see the case with kuro or other AAers

full granite
#

Pulling ritsu for the dream mmomoi comp

old rose
full granite
#

I shall evolve past the cap

#

Momoi will transcend

odd geyser
marble gust
#

if u rly dont need msuzumi then u dont need mreisa either

tender olive
marble gust
#

cus u wouldnt care abt meta

round kayak
copper crescent
#

I think we're not helpful to the dude

ancient star
#

Yeah, I think we are getting nowhere ReisaDerp

calm flicker
odd geyser
west perch
odd geyser
#

imagine her with SNonomi in luna!

calm flicker
#

Classic you-do-you situation

tender olive
pastel mortar
full granite
west perch
#

y'all are asking the wrong questions

round kayak
echo oar
#

but still! you have alternatives if you just pulled another random hyperbuffer and not msuzumi

odd geyser
tender olive
#

Wtf what it feels like the banner is so fast moving

west perch
#

if they wanted to clear luna kkg, they'd pull for better oshig

echo oar
#

not that I dislike her, I'm just thinking of the arguments

round kayak
#

We did have one week of acceleration

calm flicker
#

Ppl forgot about SHina rerun before MSuzu

copper crescent
#

Like, I haven't used oshig like ever for tor

west perch
#

if they wanted to go for set boat yesod, I'd recommend msuzumi

calm flicker
pastel mortar
young lotus
#

SHe'll pop up here and there

tender olive
old rose
#

it's just mreisa > msuzumi and it's not particularly close imo

copper crescent
#

I don't rly think u need mreisa for tors while u do need msuzumi for yesod

marble gust
copper crescent
#

Overall it's more raid coins

odd geyser
marble gust
#

oh i read as "better pull for oshig"

copper crescent
#

And one less raid to worry about

old rose
copper crescent
#

That's only if u have to pick one

marble gust
full granite
old rose
#

like not even for luna yesod

odd geyser
#

and ask you: where's your blue fes

west perch
echo oar
round kayak
#

I still stand that magical girls are dependent to your future goals

echo oar
#

fun to talk about the what-ifs

west perch
#

the problem here is neither are hyperbuffers

brave totem
marble gust
gleaming wren
#

new volume makes me wish we were able to put story related l2ds in our lobbies

marble gust
gleaming wren
#

😔

young lotus
#

Time to screenshot this convo and laugh at the people who skipped magical girls when they become giga value

round kayak
young lotus
round kayak
old rose
#

if I miss i'm sparking mreisa and skipping msuzumi

marble gust
#

good for you

round kayak
#

But hey if I get free UE 30 before the spark I'll just grab msuzumi

young lotus
#

If I miss I'm sparking m.reisa twice for her ue60 because she's cute AF

tender olive
marble gust
round kayak
# odd geyser wild

Don't worry I remember your convo from before, I'll just see what happens

marble gust
#

if ur casuaL

copper crescent
tender olive
copper crescent
#

Meta but not must pull

marble gust
#

not easy either

young lotus
#

There was only 1 person I ever rec'd they pull I.Wappi over I.Mari RidgeStare

old rose
#

they hate you now

young lotus
#

No

#

He's giga casual who slaccs extreme at most

#

and had a kokona

#

so armor type doesn't even matter

round kayak
#

Be casual

young lotus
#

And I.wappi let him clear gebby easier

young lotus
#

so its a win

round kayak
#

Meta doesn't fuck you in the ass

young lotus
tender olive
#

Aren't they like nonomi and nozomi?

copper crescent
#

No

marble gust
#

rip nonomi

round kayak
#

Wildly different

tender olive
#

Oh i see

odd geyser
tender olive
#

So no need to get them both

ancient star
pastel mortar
# west perch Just see whichever is more useful to your goals.

Well the original question was if I should skip magicals, save pyros, and maybe pull for chare if she didn't spook by that time. I'm not sure if I should consider luna planning from now.
I'm 4 months old btw so I'm still building my roster. I'm open to know if maybe pulling magicals now is better for long run since chare is regular idk.

echo oar
#

...is everyone gonna gloss over nonomi and nozomi? Natsus

ancient star
tender olive
#

So m.suzumi is a must than m.reisa?

echo oar
#

I'm trying to piece together what that means

round kayak
#

Wait why are we talking about nonomi and nozomi

copper crescent
#

Bc lack of meta knowledge and just guessing but I don't wanna call them out and make them feel welcomed

tender olive
round kayak
#

Fair enough

echo oar
ancient star
tender olive
ancient star
#

There's no comparison to make there

round kayak
tender olive
echo oar
#

okay yeah hahaha

#

that puts the pieces together

tender olive
#

Hikari and nozomi i meanMikaXD

ancient star
round kayak
#

Shupos are a little different compared to magical girls

echo oar
#

well I mean the pointn of comparison could have been "one's a buffer and one's a dealer, so you prioritize the buffer"

#

but yeah magicals are a healer and a unique buffer

round kayak
#

yep it's a bit harder to choose between the two if you don't have a proper plan

ancient star
#

Nozomi is just a purple DPS, Hikari is a buffer only for purple units

M.Reisa is a general content attack buffer and AoE healer, M.Suzumi is basically an Auto Attacker buffer

round kayak
#

Like you pull for them, now what?

tender olive
#

I planning to pull them too u mentioned

marble gust
#

ur just pulling cus yes atp

ancient star
copper crescent
#

Next time I think we should have an answer prepared instead of using the chat to discuss without helping the person

candid gust
#

sorry dajin

tender olive
old rose
#

well the discussion is good for them to see, since the answer isn't obvious

copper crescent
#

I see

tall glacier
#

Any nice raids you planning to doReisaDerp

marble gust
#

peavv why the fuck did you end up in the same situation as global

tender olive
ancient star
#

Basically nothing and not guaranteed for must pulls

round kayak
#

Is that another alt peav?

odd geyser
ancient star
#

Well, two sparks, but that should be reserved for Fest above all

tender olive
#

So magical girls ain't that really important.. They're juts like alternatives to other students similar with their skills?

copper crescent
#

Still, ideally I think they should be given a tailored answer with clear explanation and situations where they would pick one or the other in controversial cases like this

stable mulch
candid gust
#

😔

odd geyser
candid gust
#

anyway i will still keep this acc

ancient star
calm flicker
#

Tbf

frozen chasm
ancient star
#

Just skip them and save pyros for the actual must pull units

calm flicker
#

If the argument of

echo oar
#

oh, did jp just hit maint

calm flicker
#

Should I pull or not

stable mulch
candid gust
round kayak
candid gust
echo oar
#

ohhh it's been up

calm flicker
#

If u are strict about minmaxing units

candid gust
#

but i am still bricked

odd geyser
calm flicker
#

Go for hyper

tender olive
frozen chasm
calm flicker
#

Like back in 3.5th

copper crescent
echo oar
#

gold is free aruji-dono

west perch
# pastel mortar Well the original question was if I should skip magicals, save pyros, and maybe ...

Getting limiteds on first run generally is the easiest time to get them since they're usually at the highest usecase soon after, even if they aren't top pick later on.
As others have said, lunatic units do make lower difficulties more accessible in general due to their higher base power (See: Kisaki).
I'd rather you pull than to skip.
That said, the reason why MReisa is more generally recommended is that she fills more holes in different types of content.
While MSuzumi has a unique buff that shines in a few, she isn't potent and as such is in a weird place between valued yet lower than expected usage rates.
In the end, if you just win the 75% on magigals you don't have to make a choice.
So ask again then NoaWink

odd geyser
round kayak
copper crescent
#

Msuzumi is more an avoid headaches pull for me

dull lodge
#

is this good score

copper crescent
#

Yes

odd geyser
#

I used both in blue hiero ARS_icantt

copper crescent
#

Bc u have both

round kayak
#

Luna priority augh....

ancient star
odd geyser
copper crescent
#

Mreisa takes more to raise bc healing

round kayak
#

Hopefully next pre-fest will have a calmer banner schedule than this

copper crescent
#

Uh

#

Bad news for u

echo oar
#

no shot, this game is brutal on newer players now

odd geyser
west perch
copper crescent
#

Next pre fest has a good chance to be even worse

obsidian heath
echo oar
#

I can't imagine not being set on my general roster at this time

#

it sounds like pain having to make these tough choices

tender olive
copper crescent
#

Look at the upcoming reruns

calm flicker
odd geyser
marble gust
#

wtf my f104 clear got no views

echo oar
#

totally

tender olive
#

I hope you're right about this.. I'll take your adviseMikaXD

round kayak
#

Wonder if shupos gonna be another skipogaki membrane for senate

odd geyser
round kayak
odd geyser
#

We literally didn't know if she'd be useful on jp!

marble gust
ancient star
calm flicker
#

Archive fest before that

echo oar
#

tbf it wasn't this bad for us people who joined at around 3 years in!

#

we actually had space between banners to recoup