#💬gameplay-discussion
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well yeah we do as well
Id be impressed if someone one shots goz from full hp
true true
okay that is fair
With baldris
It can happen
I do want other TA bosses
We have the stats
I also want new GA bosses wtf
True
And the mald isn't that bad
fucking srkr for the 4th time smh
no heres another binah ga
57 minutes remaining on the mika team
Binah haven't went for a while on jp
do we think it's successful?
So it can happen
I will not accept another binah GA except for triple tor bare minimum
I like binah I enjoy its gas
Luna binah GA and we're all like wtf
What
let it be outdoor rbp
Lunatic would be blue torment kaiten we got last time
i feel like they might have considered the deca bosses to have already gotten a rerun because of world raid
F no
oh god
Can happen but f no
The baldshino
Kaiten GA
might as well give me geburah GA
Srkr ga is next month and next 4 months 
greg ga!
In global
There's no sign of it getting lunatic despite it being next in order
But jp just had kaiten right before srkr
I think bhimari's debuff counts as 1 debuff right? She targets highest HP too, which is greg main body.
Binah is the only one that jp hasn't gotten for the longest
Shiro Kuro has a higher chance atm due to the fes units
Yeah
Yes I would think so
Binah is doable too
though binah did technically get a rerun in world raid
But I dunno if that’s good
Oh right
On yellow that might be good since yellow eff buff
might as well run goz GA atp
Guessing either goz or yesod for next TA
Blue yesod will die
Has to be non-luna bosses
Can't do that since it already had a lunatic
We haven't had ga with luna bosses
😔
I'm guessing new TA
so thats the pattern
The new debuff ? Isn't it color related though ? The enemy needs to be yellow armor. Or you're thinking yellow greg
Yup
bruh thats bs
And binah/chesed is out bc world raid
🚬
Yellow greg indeed 
If we are gonna rerun the same GA bosses might as well have them on a different terrain
So we only have 3 options for ga
Hiero kaiten srkr
Unless they pop out peroro luna ga
Kaiten
Hiero most likely tbh
Why can’t they rerun the lunatic bosses on GA
Longest out of the 3
That would be ideal but for some reason they not doing that
No reason but it's the trend
Lunatic GA
I remember when I started playing ba, I saw some russian youtuber playing and explaining how to beat yellow greg torment, with iori (ako himari buffers).
I thought back then I'll never touch torment difficulty
it looked hellish.
looks like they are using the GA as a testing ground for luna development I assume
dw now it's sdesuno showcase 
Blue torment kaiten was basically a lunatic
No it's a lot easier
Even on field
wasnt that like 6 months ago
Especially if aaris aa breaks shield
😟
yakumo + 3X beam byebye p1
oh nvm theres another before
Bc aaris ex is 1tap
Nope that was blue greg torment.
Yellow tor greg was even before makoto release
And kaiten p2 can't kill you before aaris ex
no yellow torment greg was right after makoto release
in the beginning people were trying to make makoto wanpan work
only for iori to later end up coming out on top
That was blue torment
Ah right yeah, I played it, cleared hardcore or something x)
Yellow torment was like a year ago
We can't have Kaiten GA tho bc then we won't have luna Kaiten until after a while
the wording is really weird, but if it does break the shield then I fear that blue is gonna be a fucking joke with diabolical speedrun strats
It's been so long...
Rio is hiero tuned
How many hits does a.aris ex does?
Bc of subaru
it was really funny, people were like "oh no yellow greg is gonna be such a gigawhale raid it's gonna suck" and then in came iori with a steel chair
I was coping for malkuth ta, but I'm not so sure anymore
If u saw the thing in vol 6
Yeah
Might be that
High chance
22
Malkuth GA 
So she breaks shield
what's this 8 from?
dude what 30
Really mecha aris with her kit and numbers feel like she'll break every blue content
Not that, we were speculating her aa alone breaks shield bc all her attacks are ex dmg type
oh
if she breaks shield just like that she's gonna be one of the top picks for red
no built-in effbuffs !
Oh true
powercreep fr
the aoe
And if her ex doesn't count as ex skill hits, then we throw her in set
oh I see
It's gotta be one way or another
my blue archive
Green archive 🦖
Blue archive 🐳
Green kaiten GA torment 
Blank cutoff like the blue hovercraft
Hmm
Green geburah GA torment
I was gonna say what if we have another snagisa but I think the two debts probably wouldn't stack
I only played for so long
does BA usually run a Binah GA with new armor matching the newly released fest dps color right after?
fes buffers tend to have unique effects anyway
Yeah
Nope, dhina had an indoor hiero ta :p
unique effects
Nyfuuka rio snagi are the trinity imo of unique effects
I mean if we're counting kei's accumulation as a unique effect ig
oh yeah, ny fuuka is cut cost by half, not by a set amount
kei has her accumulation and shoshi was the first ever eff buffer
imagine orange geburah
Nyfuuka has the effect of making your card cycle 3 ex rotation instead of 4
actually do we still count special effects if it was completely unique at some point?
like shoshi was the first ever to have eff buffs and wakamo was the first ever to use accumulation
Not for this case, because we're assuming nobody in the future will copy like Rio
Well I'm saying nyfuuka rio snagi don't have anyone doing what they do
imagine rainbow geburah
I am predicting 2027 orange dps Mika
And nobody else will debt like snagi

slow but idc it's whatever let me sleep this week
Seia and ui doesn't rotate like nyfuuka
With guaranteed crit
But they rotate like each other
nah they're gonna release swimsuit chiaki and market her as green mika and then release a fes mika alt who is a way better green dps
Then release a bunch of subpar non fes dps of that color which has huge drawbacks
Nah, next is red. And she's special slot. With guaranteed crit.
die geburah die 
And you'll b50 ue60 the chiaki anyway

It's a waifu invest after all
Or striker that does both striker dmg and special dmg as a striker
i'd b50 ue60 lb75 swimsuit chiaki too
Chiaki may get her alt next 6 months though, with ibuki & iroha
lb only goes up to 50
ohhhh you meant 3x 25
yes
What about blue Greg?
like my dsaori gonna need that healing lb ~~when we get a healer saori in 2030
~~
We don't know yet
if they delay luna hiero I'll believe chiaki will be the next premium healer 
It goes up to 50? 
But judging by numbers she might
Her aoe is good too?
Similar to dhina
Wow
But more area
damn they're gonna add lb transfer?
No idea tbh
better lb25 my OG hanako's atk
Hits more targets but average each target adds up to about the same
We need lunatic blue greg so sserika can come out on top there
uh oh yeah my brain was elsewhere
eh, blue greg is dominated by nutsuki
6 cost for 0 damage pack it up vro 🥀
nutsuki is 302% x16
but for real - if they release a chiaki alt and she's a dps and she'll be woefully and shamelessly replaced by someone within 3 months (i.e. before people would get to use her properly in top play), i will actually drop the game
she will be a healer 
It's both multipliers and atk stat
Chiaki alt is going to be welfare
and nutsuki's def pierce

Well there's this new color caled green so maybe green content will appear in the near future
No **
don't forget nutsuki is hitting at 0 def vs everyone else
time for tix fraud #2
The advantages don't rly matter as much as the final dmg performance
Sserika surely with the guaranteed crit as special
I believe in the "taking a picture = healing" theme with satsuko's EX & sseia basic
tax evasion haha
U can have someone with SS mood, def ignore, +100% dmg dealt and ex dmg dealt, +300% blue buff, +400% cdmg, ignores boss dmg reduction do 4m x 16 final dmg and then have someone else D mood, resist color, no buff, cannot crit do 100m x 1 for the same cost
Usually with the alts of a student, one is quite useful while the other not so much, so there's hope for chiaki.
Still there are cases like serika's 
except nutsuki works insanely well rotationally as well
Yes
ur forgetting that atsuko was already a healer
But Im just saying we won't know who's better until it comes
bah, that doesn't matter. Shigure also wasn't
and yet oshig is human rights!
reisa is a tank and mreisa is also human rights!
michiru into dmich!
heck isn't dmich playing into that picture theme as well?
yeah
just Believe™!
no dj saori
🎱 yes
bruh i was schizo and thought she was ue40 already
You should 1pan insane
Shanako in red purple and cherino in yellow (comfier)
so
Id do that if I have cherino!!!
Going to have to make due with shanako on yellow insane.
shanako st dps and what else?
Shanako is aoe against mobs
Dhina in red, smika in purple, mika in yellow
- Hyperbuffers kisaki rio daru shoshi etc
hello gpd
hello
hello
i have not done GA
suh 
hi avren
ook
Good luck :3
GA is truly slacc 
"seeeensei~♪ kanoe, ureshii na~♡"
🛐
so you're saying i should look at your message history
No
too bad
Damn
goodbye gpd
it was a fun while
i want to give a shout-out to avren for accompanying me on this journey
had to eject with AAs again
it was a good run, see you in gpdban
hmm should I invest sseia
do you need her atm?
would investing into her right now get you a clear that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do?
just curious
did you guys actually raise and built moimoi?
I never really built her as a new player
where else is she used other than yellow chesed though?
Shes 
and commission
she carried our asses back then before shanako and all that
she'll probably see use in lunatic
i dont think ive ever seen this. same exact hp left and mika damage on two different resets
hi practic thanks for the yellow chesed clear
i'll be malding to find your makoto again tomorrow
request sent
accepted
awesome

what did you use for yellow aoe then?
even on my current JP account I'm using her
I used Nonomi and Junko (and also Maki) without cost halving I would not recommend using 3 5 cost students on a yellow team
yes
life saver for shanakolet

if I built ny mutsuki already
should i still build moimoi?
their roles kinda overlaps right?
well one is blue and one is yellow
u dont have to build her if u already have good mobbing units 
but shes strong and free so
i mean they are just for mobs right?
I think they can overcome color differences
idk I have not tested
Nothing else really, but she usually shows up on chesed whenever it runs
build koyuki instead
Koyuki is yellow aoe?
koyuki is for nihaha pretty much
blue
Blue aoe there are not lot of options
S hanako is basically blue aoe
SHanako the best aoe student
Koyuki basic aoe is 0 cost for smaller waves 
You mean S. Hanako is the best ST student 
40 hit count out of nowhere too 
SHanako too balanced
New purple content seem to be balanced around having actual single target rather than shanako brainrot
Which is good
Is there an immortalisation this month in jp?
Who knows

ttt
T
I see the event immort schedule so is possible Ibuki immort happens 2 months later that is good
That sure is good
Ibuki not viable?
I guess I just get for roster then
camp possible soon as well
Perhaps next month
I know is only one immort per month usually unless there is none
is that right?
I am expecting a mini livestream at the end of the seimi rerun in jp :3
camp hare is pretty nice to have, kotama is the backbone of hod and maki is best l2d but skippable otherwise
Chare is yeah
I am skipping camp and hoping for spooks instead
Correct thing to do in your case
The plan is currently Dress Ako, SIroha, SHanako recollect banner, 5.5 fes banner, SHiyori, magical rerun and Dress Arius
And kisaki ako
Sure is a plan
Kei 51% atk buff isn't as high as chare but if you're just clearing insane, it's more than enough
I am hoping that 5.5 fes designs are skippable
51% atk is sure big enough, we ditched chare for rio's atk buff
It’s just speculation
For us they aren't skippable but for you it's speculation
We don't actually know what will happen
I'm kinda convinced I should skip magicals with all the upcoming banners. And pull for chare if she didn't spook until seia rerun. What do you think?
Who do you think will be 5.5 fes students?
Dress arius is only dress saori though
I am predicting a Dress Arius event I hope does not happen this year
Yeah I think it works if you need to keep up with the pyrox
You'd probably end up with yesod extreme if you skip magicals
Think idols and geb
Magicals and yesod are like idols and geb
That’s true
I'd ditch chare completely, and choose magical girls and seia rerun.
"All the upcoming banners" is just bhimari and fes :p
Do u have bhoshi and troko
Also there’s probably more raids where the magicals have a good usecase
Might be a good idea to have enough pyrox to keep up with the constant fest expense
F2p rly only have enough for fest + one banner between fests
Problem is I can't save up in idols/kisaki banner since you got a 2nd must pull there unless I get super lucky and with fest and recollect in the horizon pyro planner is looking red with magicals.
Bohshi yes. Si can do 200 maybe 
You can borrow msuzumi, but I'd recommend looking at comps to see who you have and who u don't
No ins isn't that bad tbh
It's just coins loss for one week
Insane is a bit more forgiving I guess
I'd choose imari anyday over chare. Always meta limited over meta permanent (kisaki may be an exception)
There might be a few “alternatives” to chare
Yeah not skipping imari or kisaki just optimizing my future plans
Cuz I'm also shoshilet
::nezo::
Tough life
U can live being shoshilet
:nezo:
Do you have shanako and dhina
Yep
Since we have so many good buffers now that if you're just doing tor, dhina's own red buff is good enough
D hina has her own red eff buffs
eh, I wouldn't phrase it like that. it's that having a striker healer as powerful as imari is a much higher value in utility than having chare given the assumption that other hyperbuffers are available
SHoshinoless?
Mika and wakamo too got them last fest. Sad cuz I still need to pull for recollect
we always valued striker healers and imari is an exceptional one
I'd prioritize shoshi & idols first. Magicals are ? in your case, and I hope you spook kisaki during those pulls before her banner
at least you hopefully won't need full spark since its only 1 unit
we can "lmao" on tmari now because we have options but she's still a striker healer at the end of the day
Shoshino is pull if u have pyrox
Bond transfer for Imari trust
Ur not gonna die without her
what about red set without shosh
Nezo once cleared Greg 40m without shoshino
not happening
You’re doing red set, it’s ass
Even if it’s possible, you better be prepared with the other students needed
Imari is a fes level unit for me. Chare is not as important since she's permanent and we have other atk buffers (although sure less % than her)
I'd recommend chare to the tryhard nowadays, he has more important banners to pull for in his case.
74 is still piss easy with a maxed b yoshimi
Brio
ehh


If you don’t have s hoshino, what are the chances you have the other niche students for red set
See I have enough for the must pulls (idols/recollect/kisaki/pre fes + fes). Just seeing if I should ditch magicals since I'm looking for seia rerun. And the question is where does chare land in all this?
she's our best survival tool for lunatic. we've had these before.
koharu - ext, onod - ins, tyuuka - tor.
and now imari is to lunatic
it wasn't even that long ago that tyuuka was literally a must-pull status similar to what imari is enjoying right now
I think u can 200 on magicals and then pray for 200 on kisaki
U only need tyuuka and kisaki from that banner right
That's 200 for kisaki and 200 for recollect.
and now the last time I've used tyuuka was literally for goz and not in any other raid
Oh
thats kinda a dumbass question
s hosh is fest
archive fes, no less
if you miss fest its a long wait
which is still a stupid ass banner
while others can be spooked
there was tiphareth recently 
oh yeah I did use tyuuka for yellow
You're looking at it from a lunatic lens, I'm looking at imari from an enabling perspective, I didn't clear any luna yet I've used her a lot and she made my life a lot easier.
Gotta consider his roster isn't that much developed so any enhancement in comps is welcomed.
Kinda of a headache no? I can't predict my luck so I'm left with planning for worst case.
her moniker was quite literally "the unit that allowed other units to survive when they shouldn't"
Yeah it is
Bringing aru to hiero 
I personally would take a gamble bc u might get kisaki early
Tbh if I'm in your place I'll skip magicals (will use a ga tix on mreisa) so that I can leave fes with enough pulls for seia rerun
Yeah I was here when she was stated as one of the highest must pulls :3 she was a primary waifu pull target for me though.
On average I'd expect to have more chance of you getting early than not
Still
The headache is you might end up going back to pull mreisa
Honestly if I pulled magical I'll do full spark and try to get mreisa too. No aoe healer is bricks if I don't get a csena or shigy spook.
Yeah
But I do think you're not gonna hit 400 for the kisaki shoshino banner
Low chance you'd get no rate up for that long
Like 1/8
Well for soshi I'll dip out unless I'm super close to a spark, and probably same for kisaki.
imo pull > don't pull
odds are you don't go to spark for all of those
Well you'd go to spark for magicals and idols tho
just get all of them in a 10 rolls
Both are good to get, and bc they're limited, going back for the other is a pain

It's not worth it
And if you're just missing troko for the aris kei fest, you might not end up 400 either
But it's a lot closer than kisaki/shoshi
It's about where I hit the rate up too. I can dip out if it's rate up in 50 or smth. And all those banners have a 2nd students worth considering.
Yeah but for magical and idols I'd go for both if you hit rate up before
Yeah seia will rerun in 2 months after probably
If u look closely
ur only 28k in the red those are rookie numbers
I have 4 chances to go for tmari
i sacc on fuyu, i hit 75% or sacc on magigals, or i sacc on takane
it's cuz I have 4 sparks between now and tmari 
come to think of it, magigals is the first limited I planned 400 on
never planned 400 till shupos shitted on me
let's hope I do as well as shupos and get free ue50 mreisa
never planned 400 until uneru rio shitted on me
damn I kinda feel bad for bieng lucky 
Uneru rio 400 made me pull only one banner between fest from now on
I'm fine with taking the L on yesod
As long as I get the W on hiero
That's what Domo would have done
Kei is so precious
Happens
Peav u pulling fest reroll?
I think jp fes banner ends in 60 mins
If no flower/shiny/radiant node 1, gold should be next and then copper and then metal
Yea
Gold has artifacts, copper has bd, metal has random stuff but can have t4s
8.33% t4 bd from copper beats 10.8% t4 tn from plat
Which update will be continuation of arius story?
Iirc, after the next WH event
Glorious F75
v6c2 in 3 weeks, v6c3 in 7 weeks from now
Ah its 3 parts, not 2 
im literally eva malding missions 
nope not doing that till lv70
nvm my roster is dogshit for comms
Wtf
@odd geyser can you show me your RFF comp?
how do you guys 1 pan yellow?
is the wall purple
I hyperbuff shanako and mob using shanako
Purple used to be referred as structure
How big Acari needs to be to tank the ball in Chok?
Then I wait for 10 cost and pre buff mika
Low score?
What score
27m3
hm
do i need to really have to play good at rhyth games to get max stuff
My shanako ue40 mmmm mmm
I guess cost reduction goes to ui
It was a old gamemode
Yeah
rate my shana
Ancient even
UH
Ui has red armor so might be tough
UHHH
i mean do i need to beat evil stages to get maxium stuff or its just score chasing
:3
Definitely not enough for Insane mobbing
Well if u hyperbuff might be able to get away
wtf
wah
Just cycle shanako super fast
wym not enough for ins
why this is expensive
777
she cant?
Good luck
Nah it's enough
my 3* can kill to drop the comms bot on tor wym ue30 not enough 1 tap ins
He has kisaki and rio
what do you mean tank the ball
should I t8 her?
Yes
you should t10 her
Ideally, T9
Ideally t9
and again and again
man
Yup again and again
Likely until eos
I use her to speedrun every event
Event stage 1-8 super speed
She used to contribute a good bit for half the raids, but now it's down to like 1/3
Bc new kits overtook her at certain niche
this is all I can give
Now go test that out
uh
Then shanako rio ex on second wave
even with rio it's not enough to one shot everything consistently
Ideally blue tank
beside mika and shana
Mika shanako daru tsubaki ig
use sseia and heavy is lightwork
priority?
Rio shanako kisaki
Rio buff shanako ex hopefully kills all
Mine does idk about yours
let's try it
Shanako own ex before shanako ex copied by rio
Then kisaki rotation and rotate back to shanako
Tsubaki will tank in the meantime
Hopefully she's built
Seems like she's decently built
Yeah
she didn't 1 shot with rio
A bit slower but yeah go kisaki
https://x.com/Showori_/status/2019071537236582598 wait you can hook them up with the ahoge
Kisaki
It's in the screenshot
How about kisaki first then shanako
Then rio copy shanako and the clear second wave
why not just aru before hanako
Then rotate back
why kisaki
More consistent
should do the job regardless
Daru sometimes u crit sometimes u don't
Mobs don't die when u don't crit
And you end up with a mess where the students chase after the remaining sweepers
that's why I went sseia himari 😎
Changing shanako spray angle and how many she kills next spray
consistency
And then your runs get significantly different between resets
Now ur malding mob clear and team positions
2 raids of malding score and I'm already past ever doing it again
idk how yall don't get tired of it
suzushi desune~~
@copper crescent sorry for going back to this, but what do you think would be higher priority if I pulled for magicals. Cuz I was going to prioritize suzumi not only for yesod but for her being a striker atk buffer that could help me in srkr or boat p2 for example. That's where the skip magicals and wait for chare came from.
4 resets?
What a malder 🦖
close call
mreisa is by far more versatile
I think magical is like a pull so you don't suffer
slacc chokma
Tbh I don't fully understand the question
Priority for after pulling magical?
In a dry spark scenario
MReisa
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1YmF5z2E3E/ mmomoi full auto
M.Reisa > M.Suzumi
it's not particularly close either

Both are good, but M.Reisa enables much more
enables what
all the content where you want a healer 
Can't I just imari it then?
what can she do that oshig cant
Acari tanks the ball or just buffs?
Rotate faster
Higher floors on Set for one...
she helps eating a fireball but she's not main tank
lol?
Yeah u can just imari and be fine for tor, I got all tors without mreisa and oshig
124 Blue Chokmah 
Not seeing mreisa being needed for tor
you dont like the kung fu girl?
Comfy tors are every raid rn without her
doesn't mreisa get you quite a bit more damage vs luna krkg than oshig
No, but I mean, sure, O.Shigure covers more or less what M.Reisa does, but it obviously enables more options, not just for Torment but Lunatic
if we're being pedantic with the word "enables" then mreisa probably doesn't "enable" much aside from high frr floors
That's actually kinda sick
Yes luna is a good argument for mreisa but bro isn't doing luna
this is the comp I ran on JP since I actually own her there
Likely not even until after mreisa rerun
yeah mreisa cuts a team out of luna krkg at least
Definitely
compared to oshig, which is 3 teams min
so better-oshig is suddenly a must pull now
No one said that she is a must pull
you pulling arch?
Well that's argument between you two

Mreisa is kinda the imari of special slots in a way
peroro laser bait
Msuzumi for me if u have to pick between the two bc she makes yesod bearable
also yeah mreisa ain't a must pull
In that case can I just skip magicals entirely and save the pyros for chare. If I spooked her I just saved 24k for whatever students will be after seia's rerun after next fest? (Sorry I'm going full circles)
In fact she is "Good to have" in the pulling guide for a reason, because yes, we can't expect most people to do harder content
Aint nobody got time to pull magical girls when takane is right there
Hard skip
The pulling guide is mostly for newbies bc ppl planning for luna already knows who they want
But the argument / question here is / was that "M.Reisa or M.Suzumi?" M.Reisa 100%
yea skipping a unique buffer is quite wise
Magical girls don't equate to takane
If ur planning luna ur at least vet enough to know who ur pulling

both are mid to any casual
I think pinning a unit as "lunatic only" is dumb cause lunatic units will in turn make torment and under easier to clear
Who needs takane when we have snowtoki later on

I mean
Even if i had Oshiggy i'd still pull for MReisa
pull magic, spook takane 
Yakumo
I'm struggling to find any case where someone would really appreciate msuzumi over a hyperbuffer
outside of set?
Makes your life in Kaiten P1 easier
But if you're just clearing tors, having universal is enough
Im not taking any chances
Not everyone will 1pan
I still don't 1pan
Come on Arch, you are being pedantic about M.Reisa just enabling Luna and higher FRR floors... and yet that's exactly what M.Suzumi does but to a lesser extent
imari not a must pull because we have kok 
so confidently skipping a unique buffer for a better-oshig?
His situation is uhh, needed Idols
you heard it here first, tomoe must-have because unique buffs
This with takane unironically
bussin
The magical girls debate is pretty much dependent on your priorities imo
I'm ngl, I think she made my life harder here (over CHare) but I don't think 3* CHare would've had the same impact buffwise
A buffer only used in Luna clears and higher FRR. If your argument is FOMO then same can be said about Ritsu, no?
truuue, yeah I can see the case with kuro or other AAers
Pulling ritsu for the dream mmomoi comp
ur gonna hit atkspd cap lmao
she has a natural safespot too. I just used Akari to bodyblock instead
same for why the fuck would better-oshig be a prio
if u rly dont need msuzumi then u dont need mreisa either
When is this magical banner??
cus u wouldnt care abt meta
3 weeks later on global
I think we're not helpful to the dude
Yeah, I think we are getting nowhere 

also used her in blue hiero
Fuyu, Yakumo, Kanoe, DTsukuyo, etc. are units which I'd label as "lunatic only" as well.
The unfortunate thing is, they're all not hyperbuffers.
Even as good as they are, they are specific in what they do and aren't universal in all content.
What matters here is - what raids are you going to do and do these units matter for your goals?
imagine her with SNonomi in luna!
Classic you-do-you situation
Oh next GA? During shirokuro?
Conversation got carried away 
I think that dude bailed from the convo 15 minutes ago
y'all are asking the wrong questions
Oh wait no that's 4 weeks later, but it may change if there's a possible acceleration
but still! you have alternatives if you just pulled another random hyperbuffer and not msuzumi
~1month
Wtf what it feels like the banner is so fast moving
if they wanted to clear luna kkg, they'd pull for better oshig
not that I dislike her, I'm just thinking of the arguments
We did have one week of acceleration
Ppl forgot about SHina rerun before MSuzu
Like, I haven't used oshig like ever for tor
if they wanted to go for set boat yesod, I'd recommend msuzumi

I'm still here wondering what've got myself into
Damn. I hope i have enough for the fest
it's just mreisa > msuzumi and it's not particularly close imo
I don't rly think u need mreisa for tors while u do need msuzumi for yesod
yea i still dont get the better-oshig hype when their ass wasnt even considering pulling oshig
Overall it's more raid coins
i am in this picture
oh i read as "better pull for oshig"
And one less raid to worry about
you don't need msuzumi for tor yesod?
That's only if u have to pick one
dont rly ye
Hyper seasoned players arguing over opinions because what else
like not even for luna yesod
blue tors pre aaris gonna smack you outta nowhere
and ask you: where's your blue fes
Just see whichever is more useful to your goals.
I really enjoy these chats, as long as nobody's getting heated over em
I still stand that magical girls are dependent to your future goals
fun to talk about the what-ifs
the problem here is neither are hyperbuffers

nono you should pull mreisa and skip msuzumi
new volume makes me wish we were able to put story related l2ds in our lobbies

😔
Time to screenshot this convo and laugh at the people who skipped magical girls when they become giga value
That's what I'm doing tho


if I miss i'm sparking mreisa and skipping msuzumi
good for you
But hey if I get free UE 30 before the spark I'll just grab msuzumi
Another Geburah incident lmao
This is the new
Skip idols
But their both meta right? Like a must pull?
neither are "must"
Don't worry I remember your convo from before, I'll just see what happens
if ur casuaL
Yes, but the question was if you didn't get a rate up in 200, who are you picking
So easy skip?
Meta but not must pull
not easy either
There was only 1 person I ever rec'd they pull I.Wappi over I.Mari 
they hate you now
No
He's giga casual who slaccs extreme at most
and had a kokona
so armor type doesn't even matter

Be casual
And I.wappi let him clear gebby easier
Im not sure but m.suzumi?
so its a win
Meta doesn't fuck you in the ass

Aren't they like nonomi and nozomi?
No
rip nonomi
Wildly different
Oh i see
im pulling to 400 if i need but i stand by msuzumi in your hypothetical
So no need to get them both
Safe to skip over all the other an actual must pull inb4 Angel thinks I'm advocating to skip them completely 
Well the original question was if I should skip magicals, save pyros, and maybe pull for chare if she didn't spook by that time. I'm not sure if I should consider luna planning from now.
I'm 4 months old btw so I'm still building my roster. I'm open to know if maybe pulling magicals now is better for long run since chare is regular idk.
...is everyone gonna gloss over nonomi and nozomi? 
If you are pushing for harder content, you want both, if not, safe to skip
So m.suzumi is a must than m.reisa?
I'm trying to piece together what that means
Bc lack of meta knowledge and just guessing but I don't wanna call them out and make them feel welcomed
Hmmm.... I'm having a hard time thinking lol
Fair enough
do you mean nozomi and hikari??
Do you have I.Mari, Kisaki, S.Hoshino, T.Yuuka and enough for two sparks for Fest?
I was just comparing
There's no comparison to make there
In terms of that it's no question that hikari is the priority
Ow... Sorry mis name them lol
Hikari and nozomi i mean
Shupogakis have nothing to do with Magical Girls
Shupos are a little different compared to magical girls
well I mean the pointn of comparison could have been "one's a buffer and one's a dealer, so you prioritize the buffer"
but yeah magicals are a healer and a unique buffer
yep it's a bit harder to choose between the two if you don't have a proper plan
Nozomi is just a purple DPS, Hikari is a buffer only for purple units
M.Reisa is a general content attack buffer and AoE healer, M.Suzumi is basically an Auto Attacker buffer
Only t.yukaaa
Like you pull for them, now what?
I planning to pull them too u mentioned
ur just pulling cus yes atp
Then skip Magical Girls, unless you have 160k Pyros
Next time I think we should have an answer prepared instead of using the chat to discuss without helping the person
sorry dajin
Why do i feel like im on the side m.reisa simce she's a buffer attacker lol
well the discussion is good for them to see, since the answer isn't obvious
I see
Any nice raids you planning to do
peavv why the fuck did you end up in the same situation as global
Only have 40k so far
Basically nothing and not guaranteed for must pulls
surprised their banner still shows on the bottom left
Well, two sparks, but that should be reserved for Fest above all
So magical girls ain't that really important.. They're juts like alternatives to other students similar with their skills?
Still, ideally I think they should be given a tailored answer with clear explanation and situations where they would pick one or the other in controversial cases like this
I think mreisa is better even with oshig
again, sorry dajin
😔
181 keystone fragments gg
anyway i will still keep this acc
They are, like the image says: "Good to have"
Tbf
Just skip them and save pyros for the actual must pull units
If the argument of
oh, did jp just hit maint
Should I pull or not
There aren't many aura atk buffs compared to targeted atk buff
In addition p2 yesod can be bodythrown while p1 is harder
no
Imo for me it's kinda hard to say since the situation is similar to the idols pre-geb release, could be a hit and miss or the latter
yea
ohhh it's been up
If u are strict about minmaxing units
but i am still bricked
Go for hyper
Kisaki, i.mari and a.hoshi?
watching is free
Like back in 3.5th
We have like 5 months of foresight
gold is free aruji-dono
Getting limiteds on first run generally is the easiest time to get them since they're usually at the highest usecase soon after, even if they aren't top pick later on.
As others have said, lunatic units do make lower difficulties more accessible in general due to their higher base power (See: Kisaki).
I'd rather you pull than to skip.
That said, the reason why MReisa is more generally recommended is that she fills more holes in different types of content.
While MSuzumi has a unique buff that shines in a few, she isn't potent and as such is in a weird place between valued yet lower than expected usage rates.
In the end, if you just win the 75% on magigals you don't have to make a choice.
So ask again then 
Hopefully nothing really big happens within that period at least
Msuzumi is more an avoid headaches pull for me
is this good score
Yes
I used both in blue hiero 
Bc u have both
Luna priority augh....
- Fest (two sparks) 48k to guarantee at least two of the four Fest units: Kei > B.Hoshino > A.Aris > Kuroko
- Fest Archive 24k: S.Hoshino
- Kisaki 24k
- I.Mari 24k
I guess I did have borrow that I didn't use so I could've just borrowed Reisa
Mreisa takes more to raise bc healing
no shot, this game is brutal on newer players now
I got both rateup so I used the spark on Reisa 
and more jokes to tell ourselves
Next pre fest has a good chance to be even worse
don't roll magigals oh my god
you have imari and 6 fest units to pull
I can't imagine not being set on my general roster at this time
it sounds like pain having to make these tough choices
If u put it that why i guess I'm skipping magical girls then how sad
Look at the upcoming reruns
tbf, I'd tell a fresh new player to skip magicals if it meant sparking Kisaki/Tyuuka banner
wtf my f104 clear got no views
totally
I hope you're right about this.. I'll take your advise
Wonder if shupos gonna be another skipogaki membrane for senate


We literally didn't know if she'd be useful on jp!
mf when you join 5 years after game release and still plan to chase meta
120k Pyros, yes, and quite frankly all those units are basically non negotiable
U kinda forgot about 1 thing
Archive fest before that
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