💬gameplay-discussion

[polar orbit]

[marble gust]

i just went from 200k to 90k after peroro

[polar orbit]

56

[odd geyser]

bro was buying gear

[dim frigate]

Zero permits = optimal

[polar orbit]

zero permits is f2p

[simple igloo]

[copper crescent]

Wtf world raids are so long

[odd geyser]

I mean, there's a TA on the 18th

[copper crescent]

Hmm

[marble gust]

pls peroro rerun

[odd geyser]

will it be the same

[marble gust]

no ofc

[odd geyser]

or do you just wanna dunk on it

[marble gust]

but fuck it just gimme my lun clear

[copper crescent]

Kei will give u ur lun clear

[marble gust]

imari

[supple star]

Done

[polar orbit]

skip imari again just to try imariless

[marble gust]

if csena spooked me then yea i got a chance

i aint doung the double healerless again

[supple star]

Bruv i didnt notice i hit the permit cap already

[polar orbit]

everyone who hoarded did

[odd geyser]

MReisa peroro

[marble gust]

a bit worse than oshig ngl

[supple star]

1 min

[odd geyser]

okay but oshig works at 3*

[supple star]

Another month for ONodoka

[summer dew]

i left a very strategic amount of ta coins

to get maki & koharu

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[marble gust]

date has changed

[supple star]

[summer dew]

it hasnt tho

it's 9pm

[dim frigate]

Gonna get outa trinity debt just in time for Reisa

[simple zinc]

Big if true

[echo oar]

[marble gust]

hey smika snagi added to ep shop

[echo oar]

trinity wildhunt though

[simple zinc]

[supple star]

Discounts!!!

[simple ravine]

[summer dew]

taxes paid

[simple zinc]

Buyimg fest from permit shop....

[odd geyser]

I was about to panic but I realized I bought those two out already

[polar orbit]

b34 b,nezo

[marble gust]

ep her to 4*

[simple zinc]

I never buy fest from permot shop now

[simple zinc]

Wtf

[odd geyser]

I knew something changed! Hello Hiyori

[simple zinc]

How do you survive without your built dhina

[marble gust]

farming hiyori in 2026

[odd geyser]

hell yeah

[west perch]

hiero luna incoming

[marble gust]

arubroke

[summer dew]

[supple star]

give me TA i need to pay taxes

[frail glen]

OH CRAP I FORGOTTO BUY JFD SHOP

[west perch]

ain't it bought out from last jfd?

[supple star]

Now You are one month behind

[polar orbit]

[summer dew]

that's why you do it right after monthy reset OR along as you get the coins

[west perch]

well, at least my jfd shop was already bought out before this jfd started

[frail glen]

bc we have more jfd right? my head thought I should clear shop after today

[odd geyser]

I remembered today

[frail glen]

bruhhhh

[frail glen]

I will just eligma Eimi then

[polar orbit]

pat the ojou sama

[frail glen]

[marble gust]

free

[polar orbit]

dont do that, that's dumb

[west perch]

[hollow saddle]

[summer dew]

i mean i'm considering myself brick for even considering about ligmaing eimi to ue30 when im 100/120 so uhh i'd hold

[snow portal]

Today's L2D roll is brought to you by the letter S for Sena!

[marble gust]

C

[hollow saddle]

4 f2p ue60

[polar orbit]

me in a few months

[snow portal]

1/5 bnnuy

[west perch]

schale also got an update

[polar orbit]

oh finally they moved FRR

[west perch]

oh, malkuth is in

oh... ALL the bosses are in

[marble gust]

lmao malkuth is still at 85%

[west perch]

as in, including their world raid variants

[marble gust]

we're at 3/13 days

[frail glen]

you know what's funny?

I bought out trnity mats yesterday to raise Mika

[west perch]

luna binah sneak peek? 👀

[frail glen]

then today lesson dropped me 4x purple BD

[simple ravine]

why are they killing malkuth so slowly

[odd geyser]

lol anti boshi technology

[marble gust]

bro thinks 1.9 quadrillion hp is low

[polar orbit]

f2p health tbh

[hollow saddle]

this one as well

[supple star]

finally

[snow portal]

Lesson elephs

[odd geyser]

[polar orbit]

guh they removed the stupid debuffs

huge

[echo oar]

doubly immune

[simple ravine]

what the hell is that

[steep vortex]

nice, 116 elephs to go

[echo oar]

no I'm blind

[feral jetty]

so binah now deals more damage to the 3 closest strikers but deals less damage to whoever is furthest away

[west perch]

that might be how they can make binah do more dmg overall without just killing all supports outright

[odd geyser]

the cover change means that Akane is still taking about the same amount of damage as before

[feral jetty]

means you can make whoever has the highest range take only 150% from missiles just by putting hifumi ex down

[odd geyser]

[old rose]

or any summon

[feral jetty]

yeah

[hollow saddle]

all

[snow portal]

No cubes 🥀

[simple ravine]

did they change deca bosses

[odd geyser]

Hifumi?

Himari on a bike on Mika

[polar orbit]

it's an all terrain wheelchair

[snow portal]

Scrim scam 🥀

[torpid galleon]

ok nice

[odd geyser]

lets you protect DAru

[feral jetty]

150+150 > 400?

what does all mean there

[opaque dagger]

The first 3 students still take more dmg

[supple star]

Lunatic Binah is coming (??

[feral jetty]

yeah

[odd geyser]

realistically, it's first 2

since whoever's 3rd is in cover

[opaque dagger]

It's now 900%/450%/450%/300%

[feral jetty]

oh yeah true

[opaque dagger]

Depends on how many covers Binah destroyed, I guess

[feral jetty]

it won't be destroyed before sandstorm

or did they change it so sandstorm doesn't break it either?

[opaque dagger]

Eh, in the last GA the cover is destroyed by Binah AA

[feral jetty]

yeah but they changed that

binah doesn't hit cover anymore

[opaque dagger]

Wait they did?

Oh yea right, that

But your tank is still gonna die

Even with red tank it's 450% atk

[feral jetty]

ngl this seems like a massive dtsukuyo shill

[opaque dagger]

That's over 120k dmg on Tor

[hollow saddle]

still ded

[feral jetty]

900% dmg to tank from missiles without cover

[hollow saddle]

this is with cover on

[polar orbit]

close enough, wb chokmah

[opaque dagger]

You still cancel missiles anyway

[feral jetty]

you might not be able to cancel in time

if it's luna

[opaque dagger]

But for Luna you probably need to tank them

[feral jetty]

on torment release you cancelled sandstorm and took missiles instead

you're gonna have to build a lot more groggy to cancel missiles

[opaque dagger]

Real question is: how much higher is the Atk on Luna

[odd geyser]

its good old binah crit mald

[opaque dagger]

It's already fucking 30k now

[simple ravine]

oh only binah changed

[odd geyser]

and stab mald, just hope it low rolls

[opaque dagger]

Boshi probably unusable in Luna Binah

[hollow saddle]

huh??

[polar orbit]

my taxes have been paid

[feral jetty]

we still can't really know who's gonna live or die at the moment

since luna binah's atk stat is probably gonna be higher

[west perch]

also depends on cover and positioning depending on team

[slate sky]

[summer dew]

s.atsuko is like free 2* from one-time rewards right?

[covert spoke]

+3

[summer dew]

right

[polar orbit]

you get 23 free one-time eleph

[summer dew]

alright but close enough

[polar orbit]

[west perch]

she can now 1-tap overload tor heater with pillar without sub

[hollow saddle]

wait, really?

[west perch]

yes

[summer dew]

i mean i still havent done any of the event minigame, i hope i dont forget to look at it

[echo oar]

does she need bond for that??

[west perch]

high bond if non-UE specials

[echo oar]

meh just do a sweep once you're a week or a few days away from the end for security

[steep vortex]

jesus 50k

[covert spoke]

do your minigames!

or no prizes!

[polar orbit]

eye on the prize

[supple star]

Eye on the prize!!!

[covert spoke]

[frail glen]

maybe the real minigame is the friends we made along the way

[gleaming wren]

hello gpd

[west perch]

on hibiki mash ue40, she needs ue60, t10 neck, b20 + lb10 healing for bare minimum

[summer dew]

how long until rabu farm btw? rough estimate?

[gleaming wren]

your mom months

[summer dew]

ok

ty

[gleaming wren]

like a month and a half

[summer dew]

alright i can go pretty low on pvp coins then

[polar orbit]

halfway there. comfy ue30. ue40 aint happenin though. Probably won't even be close

[odd geyser]

lmao I was wondering where the Kether skill we can use came from

literally never saw this while fighting it b/c type V died so fast

[west perch]

jeez

does it do that extra damage if we apply ff

[odd geyser]

https://schaledb.com/raid/kether_854

all these mechanics and none of them matter

[feral jetty]

the first 2 kethers die so fast they might as well not have mechanics

[supple star]

[feral jetty]

i'm sure they'll get their HP increased by a lot if we get it as TA though

[odd geyser]

ngl, type V could be obnoxious af with more hp

[feral jetty]

you might run mari at first to save atoki for the last kether if it's multiteam

[gleaming wren]

tbh

[odd geyser]

yeah

[gleaming wren]

ill just wait until atsuko is ep farmable

[hollow saddle]

lmao

that's 99 multi

[gleaming wren]

this farm sucks balls

not worth x6 refresh

[polar orbit]

EP farm sucks more balls

[gleaming wren]

No?

[polar orbit]

yes

[gleaming wren]

What do u even spend them on

[polar orbit]

a lot

[echo oar]

what do you spend them on??

[gleaming wren]

i just used 14k ep that were left over from last month

[polar orbit]

wtf what do you not spend them on

[feral jetty]

i don't have enough left over after spending them on the limited elephs

[polar orbit]

either way though, it's 360 AP for 1 s.atsuko eleph in the EP shop, but it's like 120 AP/per in the event

[gleaming wren]

useless welfares

[hollow saddle]

is this craftable?

[polar orbit]

it's at least 3x more efficient

[snow portal]

Yup

[odd geyser]

eeeh

okay yeah it is

[summer dew]

so 40k vouchers will buy me 100 entries right, so that's 23 + 100 guaranteed eleph + 20% roll for extra... with perfect luck that's still barely a 4*

[gleaming wren]

what do u think i spend them on outta these top options

[polar orbit]

ny junko

[gleaming wren]

(no one)

[supple star]

none

[odd geyser]

[polar orbit]

i buy seia and uasuna there

[odd geyser]

Is your Seia UE40?

[polar orbit]

mine is not, whiteL's probably is

[hollow saddle]

welp can't ue50 satsuko now

[snow portal]

Why

[supple star]

I bought Seia elephs cause i feel i will need ue40 soon

[hollow saddle]

hard & comms

[polar orbit]

i just got her 4 star last month

hopefully the rest will be permits, at least for a while

[feral jetty]

i bought seia elephs because i will be getting her on her rerun

[west perch]

lessons

[polar orbit]

smart

[odd geyser]

I did that with BKarin, NYMutsuki, and Toki

[hollow saddle]

gonna wait real bounty shop

[opaque dagger]

Excuse me, wtf

I hate this farm

[supple star]

It is what it is

[gleaming wren]

nope

[west perch]

[feral jetty]

why not buy seia elephs then wtf

[gleaming wren]

because where would I need her to be ue40

[polar orbit]

eventually

[gleaming wren]

same for asuna or sakurako

[odd geyser]

Hod lunatic and general QoL for Seia UE40

[proven dove]

With smika in ep shop, I'll need to spend like 42k ep every month x_x

[gleaming wren]

im almost done here

after that ill consider seia

im already done with kuroko too

[proven dove]

In your place I'd buy seia, imari until I get her, and uneru :3

[gleaming wren]

getting imari

Lol

Lmao

[summer dew]

you don't want to have her basic last for almost 5sec longer?

[echo oar]

I forget, are uasuna and isak okay with ue30 for greg luna

[west perch]

3*

[gleaming wren]

3*

[proven dove]

Get her

[echo oar]

bwoah fr?

[gleaming wren]

Yeah

[west perch]

you run healers on their teams

[gleaming wren]

seia is only really an option cuz buff retention slop

[west perch]

unless you wanna run the bald comp

[proven dove]

Ue30 for maldy 2pan. 3* for comfy 3pan

Seia generates more cost in ue40

[gleaming wren]

im not buying shanako or kuroko anymore cuz I plan to get the last dupe pulling

[west perch]

healerless variants need the UE

[echo oar]

oh but you need a healer when they're 3* yeah

that makes sense

[odd geyser]

this is honestly the biggest reason I got her

[echo oar]

I was only thinking of the crazy no-healer strat

[odd geyser]

like you can obviously adjust to the cost loss but I was doing so much mental math in Goz for wakamo timings

[summer dew]

yea i mean that extra 0.25 cost from ex self buff with optimal rot is not going to make or break anything outside some very niche speedrun strats

[proven dove]

I am buying her elephs until I get her on rerun

[odd geyser]

her exploding in Hod also helped me make the decision

[polar orbit]

this is the team i'm going for

[feral jetty]

they're limited elephs regardless

why not buy them monthly

[odd geyser]

I'm not working on UE50+ Seia - that's madness

[gleaming wren]

i think equipment is more important

[proven dove]

I'm buying sayane toki seia smika wakamo shanako boshino uneru.

I'm not sure I can get monthly 42k ep :x

[echo oar]

whoa there let's not talk crazy

[polar orbit]

actually, dajin how important was ue50 boshi compared to ue40? is it strictly necessary for greg luna

[echo oar]

surely less necessary with kei now

[odd geyser]

the only acceptable blueprints to buy in the EP shop is Tsubaki's T4 bag

[west perch]

you'd need to always refresh 3x to get 42k

[echo oar]

raids are getting vastly easier with time

[odd geyser]

bro I think I may have done it with UE30 lemme double check

[polar orbit]

with super team?

[odd geyser]

nvm she was probably UE40

oh why tf are you asking me about super team

[polar orbit]

-_-

[odd geyser]

I didn't mald!

[polar orbit]

you whaled!

[odd geyser]

[proven dove]

Yeah nah not possible x) I'll ditch uneru for now, and get back to her after giving wakamo/shanako ue50

[echo oar]

oh greg

[polar orbit]

i would rather bald than whale!!

[proven dove]

I'm not sure I'm gonna be ready for yesod luna by then, I'll be at least half ready

[supple star]

Lunatic?

[odd geyser]

Original Hoshino transfer stats are probably more important ngl

[polar orbit]

oh

well about that...

[odd geyser]

don't forget - she has def transfer

[gleaming wren]

noneleft

[gleaming wren]

have you already done a luna

[polar orbit]

no

[gleaming wren]

damn

[supple star]

Oh it was lunatic

[odd geyser]

just claim wtf, do you still have archive cope or something

[gleaming wren]

im just praying i spook regular kikyou

to do kurokage

[polar orbit]

i was gonna try for kurokage, but there's just not enough time for me to farm gears

ill skip

[odd geyser]

B20 Hoshino is probably way more impactful than UE50 Boshi for survival

[polar orbit]

no im just sitting on the spark

[proven dove]

Comfy Greg luna teams

(not me)

[polar orbit]

but im hesitant to claim hard node farmables cause that's so much extra time needed to farm 120 more eleph

[west perch]

bruh

[echo oar]

bwoah

[gleaming wren]

just do it tbh

lmao

[west perch]

also what's saya doing there

[odd geyser]

actually I guess we don't know when the next greg is but it's still trolling

[torpid galleon]

🤝

[echo oar]

thing is, when on earth are you ever going to do more archive pulls

[odd geyser]

Especially for shop farmables like Mashiro/Saya

[torpid galleon]

I did this for Aru and Izuna back then

[polar orbit]

saya was greg prep before i realized s.misaki was dummy broken

[odd geyser]

You'd prefer the ligma over coin

[echo oar]

it'll be at least another year or two before they add more, right?

[covert spoke]

claim them you friccer

[polar orbit]

[gleaming wren]

for real

[covert spoke]

free b20 on them all if you'd claimed

[gleaming wren]

i finished HIFUMI MARRY ME in the time you had her there

[polar orbit]

is b20 really worth an extra like 2-3 months of farm time

[odd geyser]

It's arguable that Aris is also griefing now that she has a fes alt

[polar orbit]

mmm yeah...

[covert spoke]

b30*

[echo oar]

you don't use a lot of lures in your cafe, right?

[polar orbit]

i dont quite have enough for b30 yet but i can definitely farm it up in time

[polar orbit]

i do now. I have tea party table, idol stage, and some other fest furniture

[odd geyser]

ngl, I'm probably going back to hoshino farm anyway during 2x for gear

[echo oar]

ahh not bad then, they'd show up a lot more if you didn't...

[eternal thorn]

how many elephs do you have for each of them?

[echo oar]

but yeah I'd still look at it from the eligma angle

[odd geyser]

not this 2x but future 2xs

I'm staying on SAtsuko farm

[echo oar]

+50 per each one that you claim

[gleaming wren]

almost done here

[echo oar]

...wait

[proven dove]

The issue is that they're too many and unobtainable outside the archive banner.

I'd claim mashiro saya hoshino hifumi (and aris after waris release)

Hifumi saved my life in boat torment at 3*

(twice)

[covert spoke]

this is glenn type behaviour btw

[polar orbit]

Izuna - 129/120
Hifumi - 180/120
Mashiro - 275/120
Aru - 195/120
Hoshino - 172/120
Aris - 146/120
Hibiki - 219/120
Saya - 130/120

[gleaming wren]

guitarrockleft

[polar orbit]

[covert spoke]

holhy shit ur bricked

[polar orbit]

i did slack hard nodes for quite a while at the start

[covert spoke]

i was expecting like 500 aru izuna hibiki

[gleaming wren]

bro literally didn't farm anything

[polar orbit]

didn't quite understand them

[gleaming wren]

bro preferred doing bairi farm than hard nodes

[odd geyser]

this is the only farmable I've kept on cope in JP

[polar orbit]

okay well hard mode does get dropped for welfare, that's inevitable

[gleaming wren]

No

[polar orbit]

but i used to not farm hard mode at all which was bad

[covert spoke]

kinda sometimes

[echo oar]

yeah none, so spooking them after claiming would be a 90-eleph loss vs spooking and then using the elephs to star up, but you gain 50 eligma instead

you have to hit a hard node 225 times to make up the 90 elephs, which costs 4500 AP, so you're spending 4500 AP for 50 eligma, or 90 AP per eligma

which is a pretty decent eligma farm rate...

it's just that you would be late to raise them if you needed them earlier

[covert spoke]

but u lose out on free b20 and random lesson eleph

[polar orbit]

hmm

[odd geyser]

all of those nodes are also just nice to farm for the gear drops except for Aru

[proven dove]

I'm just coping for a karin spook in archive banner one day, so she'll be instantly ue40 (so far 310 elephs farmed)

I don't care about izumi I can claim her anytime

[covert spoke]

and the eligma u get from spooking them

[echo oar]

this too!!!

[covert spoke]

izumi boat staple

[echo oar]

I got so much gear from random hard farms

[polar orbit]

my only spook on archive banner pulls was izumi

[copper crescent]

I spooked haruna

so sacc

[odd geyser]

one day I'll spend them

[gleaming wren]

i got stoned to death once for saying this

[signal hound]

Ibuki loves me

[gleaming wren]

time always proves me right

[copper crescent]

ssg

[odd geyser]

tbh, it depends on context.

[polar orbit]

do you know what the eligma rate is on the average eligma farm event?

disregarding first rw of course cause that one was op

[echo oar]

I forget, but I usually hear 1 pyro refresh = 1 eligma for the decent ones?

[odd geyser]

I agree with you that hard node equipment is nice but I wouldn't use it as an argument against farming a welfare.

[eternal thorn]

My cope

[odd geyser]

just claim her, 50 ligma is more valuable than that GA coin

[echo oar]

okay now that's actual brick

spend the 900 GA coins for 50 eligma!!

[proven dove]

My Kaede is only getting ue30 by yesod ta, which may ruin the luna clear possibility

[odd geyser]

2 ligma for UE50?

I'm kidding

[west perch]

don't we get another reset?

[odd geyser]

yeah but it won't be enough for UE50

but like, that's giga cope

[gleaming wren]

i think the added value of the good characters in hard nodes often overtake the welfares (depending on the ap to eleph rate they give and how useful they end up being)

[west perch]

just lessons it

[west perch]

the only time this argument is right is box welfares

[supple star]

ngl i respect anyone going all in for welfares

[proven dove]

I'll need to give her 16 ligma to be ue40 by yesod ta :p

[supple star]

[gleaming wren]

it also depends on what kind of rewards u get for sweeping

[odd geyser]

Regardless of what's happening ingame, I always believe in at least farming 60 AP worth of hards a day.
I think the only welfares that weren't worth going all in on were: Nodoka, Tomoe, and CHibiki

[opaque dagger]

The "imma hold on to them and see what happens first: I need them or Archive Update and I spook them" strat 🔥

[gleaming wren]

there's 0 reason to really go above ue60 idol mine for example

[steep vortex]

i always do 60 ap worth of hards a day at minimum for the keystone

[echo oar]

ah, I guess baseball was 1.7 eligma per 88-100 AP?

[feral jetty]

hikariless coping

[eternal thorn]

I guess I could at this point

[west perch]

and box welfares

[polar orbit]

right in range then

[echo oar]

so that comparison falls short a bit, but the gear and bond still!!

[gleaming wren]

ukarin and ibuki were very different because the extra rewards that were given were already enough of an argument against hard nodes

[west perch]

that's most good welfare btw

[gleaming wren]

not really

sIchika is in that limbo

[west perch]

myuzu smiyu sshizuko

[proven dove]

I'm not doing 60 ap hard node farm in satsuko farm :p first time (and most likely last time)

[gleaming wren]

sAyane was too

[west perch]

skoharu

[gleaming wren]

sMiyu would still be in that limbo

[odd geyser]

Only time I think I completed skipped was MYuzu b/c Yuzu

[feral jetty]

i could probably get a higher score by borrowing another smika i'm lowkey trolling by going double sroko

[midnight river]

[gleaming wren]

dice race is shit

ppl still think it's good

[midnight river]

Its good if you are always lucky

[opaque dagger]

Out of curiosity, none, do you farm to 720 or 840 Elephs for those 👀 or you're nowhere near that yet

[polar orbit]

not even close

[odd geyser]

if I knew UE60 existed, I would've gone harder

[polar orbit]

i dont think i farmed hard mode for the first like 7 months of playing

💀

[feral jetty]

farm your fucking welfares

[obsidian heath]

yea double fish is only worth it if you have a bunch of dpses

[echo oar]

holy

[obsidian heath]

(miyu doesn't count)

[feral jetty]

i like doing it because it lets me use miyu mmomoi

[echo oar]

I went so hard on hards for my first half year haha

[polar orbit]

i wish i did

[west perch]

excuse me what

[echo oar]

sacrificed non-welfare events for it, still doing like 7 different nodes and not getting much from the event shops

[gleaming wren]

ye

[west perch]

bad dice race is bad.

[echo oar]

also not optimal, but I wanted to be done with them faster

[polar orbit]

i've started doing that

[west perch]

bro just because wildhunt had a shit track for 2 weeks doesnt mean all dice race is bad

[steep vortex]

srabbits dice race was good

[echo oar]

ye like next wildhunt event is a decent time to farm hards I think

[gleaming wren]

srabbits dice race only gave me balls

[polar orbit]

for sure

[feral jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-newgens-gif-8678210315718230321

[echo oar]

it offers decent rates on stuff, but nothing essential

[west perch]

I got 150m credits off this event

[gleaming wren]

aside from that all tix weren't useful at all to guarantee anything

[echo oar]

the godlike farm

[steep vortex]

i gained a good chunk of eligma from that event

[feral jetty]

this was insane

[steep vortex]

it was great

[polar orbit]

holy that track is insane

[west perch]

most "good credit events" nowdays barely hit the 100m mark

[fleet narwhal]

ye shrimps were really good

[snow portal]

We had good credit events...

[odd geyser]

I really hope luna chesed doesn't lockout SMiyu

[snow portal]

Once upon a time

[obsidian heath]

I think it will

they will kill shanako and smiyu will be collateral damage

[ripe mason]

they gotta give me a reason to use ue50 moe

[odd geyser]

I mean, they can use the opposite of what they gave BRio/BHimari to avoid that

[feral jetty]

please i beg you give moe bond gear before luna chesed

[polar orbit]

smiyu? huh?

[feral jetty]

smiyu was the chesed GOAT at some point yes

[odd geyser]

Resist Damage Multiplier

[obsidian heath]

specifically resist?

[feral jetty]

why the opposite

[obsidian heath]

I was rather thinking they'd give them increased weakness damage

so you have to use yellow

[feral jetty]

can't they give the bhimari debuff specifically

yeah that

and they increase the hp by a lot so that only yellow can kill them

[odd geyser]

don't make Miyu homeless again

[polar orbit]

miyu has boat

[obsidian heath]

smiyu

[odd geyser]

smiyu

[gleaming wren]

smiyu lol

ppl just now talking about smiyu being worth it

[feral jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3poPvkaH4s8

[gleaming wren]

nerfed for greg

[covert spoke]

wakamo NEEDS the extra 14 hp man

[odd geyser]

does wakamo even get kaede

[west perch]

on tor? not sure

[obsidian heath]

on tor I don't think she does

[snow portal]

Haruna gaming

[obsidian heath]

she just survives

[compact sparrow]

oh damg I'm looking at Aris' fest kit

[covert spoke]

on tor she survives with lvl 1 specials

[compact sparrow]

Toki walked and tripped so Aris could fly

this is so sad

[snow portal]

Aris has gone far beyond

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-boll-z-goku-4k-aura-gif-17280297536369521911

[covert spoke]

she do be flying doe

ty 4 uneru dajin
but i borrowed the b56 mika instead

[compact sparrow]

Also Kei is blue S.Hoshino?

Do we know if it's like an aura buff or applied

[snow portal]

Not quite

[old rose]

aura

[odd geyser]

aura

[compact sparrow]

darn it

[west perch]

wdym darn it

[marble gust]

fes privileges

[compact sparrow]

I can't just ignore NY.Kayoko

Wanted her powercrept and gone

[snow portal]

Nope

[marble gust]

lmao

[polar orbit]

the messiness of the clear has a sort of charm to it

[old rose]

damn what did nyk do to you

[feral jetty]

it's so funny that yellow's AoE dmg is so bad that other colors can be competitive on chesed

[compact sparrow]

I just don't wanna build her

[covert spoke]

yellow aoe is good now

[compact sparrow]

I can't lie...

[feral jetty]

nykayo is still gonna be useful

kei is probably not gonna survive vs set

[covert spoke]

she can...

[odd geyser]

if we still need to run wakamo in goz, you really don't wanna pair her with Kei

[snow portal]

But you know who is powercrept and gone?

[compact sparrow]

[west perch]

also we have 2 blue bosses that force you to run around

[obsidian heath]

wakamo?

[compact sparrow]

no she's still very relevant, think of the juicy bond boost Azure!

[feral jetty]

you think she's powercrept and gone but with the amount of hp they're giving luna srkr you'll just end up running triple aris instead

[compact sparrow]

for the better Aris

[fleet narwhal]

srkr will be bloated well enough to still force you to critmald the old way

[snow portal]

Have you been B.Arisu average when all buffs applied?

[odd geyser]

Patch Notes:

• the 750 safespots have been changed to 850 safespots for lunatic srkr

[snow portal]

4× more than Maldris critting

It's over

[covert spoke]

i mean u compare that to 3 maris hits

not 1:1

[feral jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOh8LFWD6Nc look at this shit oh my god

the 2 specials on p1 are both red AoE dmg dealers

[west perch]

just imagine this but in goz

[odd geyser]

he put nagisa and smiyu in the wrong spots

[fleet narwhal]

ye, and I'm certain that as a cause of that they will bloat srkr to such extent you'll still need more dps after

[covert spoke]

thats old shit though

[snow portal]

Cope

[compact sparrow]

Rio looks... interesting kit wise..

[polar orbit]

wait they added s.mika and s.nagisa to permit shop but not s.seia or s.hasumi? huh?

[fleet narwhal]

I am 100% certain it will happen

[odd geyser]

comparable to toki dps wise afaik

[feral jetty]

that's not cope

have you not seen what they did to luna peroro?

[compact sparrow]

oh for real?

[odd geyser]

yeah so pretty good

[west perch]

nah just reference causew's 850 safespot hw for thasumi

[compact sparrow]

wait Toki is good?

[odd geyser]

p1

[covert spoke]

we have makoto saten biribiri syukari shasumi rio now

[west perch]

oof

[odd geyser]

Toki's been bis urban hiero since kisaki

[snow portal]

I did, but they simply won't because I said so

[west perch]

bond gear bro

[snow portal]

I own Nexon you see

She's good for urban hiero

[compact sparrow]

ummm

[teal nova]

better than snonomi

[snow portal]

Not sure that's a high bar to clear anymore

[feral jetty]

lend me some power kisaki this is base snonomi we're up against

[opaque dagger]

Limiteds are much more delayed. We just got Seia and Asuna School recently, so I expect to see them 6 months later.

Thx for reminding me I have another student to be scheduled into my permit plans

[odd geyser]

I just pulled her on the recent rerun

[compact sparrow]

when was the last time we had an urban hiero raid?

[polar orbit]

few months ago

[covert spoke]

last hiero

[compact sparrow]

I.. probably just used D.Hina I can't lie

I cannot remember it

[covert spoke]

it was yellow tor

[fleet narwhal]

i mean if you arent scorechasing then it barely matters

[compact sparrow]

oh

[west perch]

we're going to have another one as GA soon

[fleet narwhal]

but for luna ? toki is going to be the first pick

[west perch]

blue + red tor

[compact sparrow]

I'll just get Himari

[gleaming wren]

yes

fest characters are always added on the month post banner

[polar orbit]

ah

[odd geyser]

last may for red tor

[polar orbit]

they are trying to scam us into buying them

[obsidian heath]

have they added skipogakis yet

[compact sparrow]

Himari's sprite art is so cool

[odd geyser]

moo going for meta

[compact sparrow]

Hover bike

[gleaming wren]

they barely added idols recently

[polar orbit]

it's all terrain wheelchair

[compact sparrow]

Himari's better than Rio anyway

[gleaming wren]

XD

[compact sparrow]

🚮

Himari more funny

[supple star]

[compact sparrow]

I don't even hate Rio, but I'll hate her just to make my affiliations clear.

[supple star]

Rio slander will not be tolerated

[idle rampart]

but Himari and Rio love each other

[echo oar]

paying my taxes again

[supple star]

Himari x Rio

[crude sable]

The meanest mod hopping on the himari "rio is sewer water" bandwagon 🥀

[teal nova]

mario

[gleaming wren]

I'd like more basic skills to have an effect like maki's

[polar orbit]

you just want more makis

[gleaming wren]

yes

[crude sable]

You mean like def down in the basic?

[gleaming wren]

no

i mean the visual effect

like the 3 painting balls rotating on the enemy

[supple star]

[snow portal]

Well with the new alt you're no longer playing with Rio. You're playing with WARio

[compact sparrow]

You're darn right

[opaque dagger]

Is it really a dmg issue? Feels more like a cost issue, you got Mutsuki NY and Hanako Swimsuit but no such thing for Red and Yellow. And the fact that with modern buffers, you can brute force off color mobbing on Ins

[compact sparrow]

Rio's hobby is designing? well maybe she needs a new hobby because Avante Guard looks GARBAGE

[supple star]

[gleaming wren]

yes because most yellow aoe are mobbers and not really aoe

[crude sable]

Its 100% a cost issue, most if not all are 5+ cost

[supple star]

Moo is so mean today

[gleaming wren]

example of aoe not mobber: Yuzu
average yellow aoe mobber: momoi, nonomi

[copper crescent]

are we sure this is moo

[compact sparrow]

[fleet narwhal]

we need a new moo

[opaque dagger]

Think about Red bro, they have it worse

[supple star]

[idle rampart]

if only they design mobber students as aoe

[compact sparrow]

I'm still getting Rio

[teal nova]

true

[crude sable]

Red is in shambles for aoe

[compact sparrow]

[gleaming wren]

best yellow aoe used to be a fucking collab character

[compact sparrow]

Misaka?

[gleaming wren]

yeah

[compact sparrow]

Wasn't Junko still better

[gleaming wren]

depends on strat

[supple star]

yea Junko was better

[gleaming wren]

problem with junko was the range

the area she covered was very lacking

[compact sparrow]

I see..

[supple star]

[odd geyser]

huh red has Minori

[gleaming wren]

and Hina

[compact sparrow]

Is Nagisa not an epic aoe

[snow portal]

Don't forget to pull Wimari too

[gleaming wren]

and hibiki

[compact sparrow]

of course, himari is the priority

[opaque dagger]

Ok, like any of them are good on Chesed

[odd geyser]

SMiyu is

[crude sable]

Yea but then you sacrifice a special alot for aoe with the decent red mobbers

[odd geyser]

[opaque dagger]

When low cost mobbing is what you need

[odd geyser]

And Minori was used on Chesed speedrun

[gleaming wren]

sfubuki also does a really good amount of damage

[compact sparrow]

Nagisa..?

[opaque dagger]

Muh special slot

[crude sable]

But for ins its just better to use shanako tbh, even for speedrunning

[gleaming wren]

moo is also right we love you moo

[compact sparrow]

Don't love me

I'm mean and evil

[opaque dagger]

But ye, Hanako Swimsuit was a mistake, still is a mistake

[snow portal]

Meh could've been worse

[gleaming wren]

moo is wrong please stone him and crucify him

[compact sparrow]

Also... will UE50-UE60 Toki be valid now..?

[crude sable]

Lipgloss for mine bond chasing at least

[compact sparrow]

[opaque dagger]

And I love the fact that no one remembers Kotori Cheer

[odd geyser]

probably

[compact sparrow]

hmmm I may consider then...

[odd geyser]

for hiero, she's not really used outside tor tho

[compact sparrow]

[gleaming wren]

does kei have slop retention at ue40

[opaque dagger]

Trust in the Hiero Luna soon™

HP

[gleaming wren]

nice

[opaque dagger]

So will be useful for survival

[odd geyser]

I just slacc with SNonomi each ins red hiero

[copper crescent]

no she has hp

[odd geyser]

[gleaming wren]

what about bikemari

[copper crescent]

retention doesn't do anything for her lmao

[odd geyser]

hp

[gleaming wren]

ggs

[compact sparrow]

hmm

[copper crescent]

also hp

[odd geyser]

Retention has bad synergy with both of their kits

[opaque dagger]

Kei might survive Set

[gleaming wren]

wait bikemari hp will be important

[opaque dagger]

Because of that HP

[compact sparrow]

mm..

[copper crescent]

buff retention doesn't do anything for bhimari either I don't think

probably just the cdmg

[odd geyser]

she died to a turret in chesed so probably

[compact sparrow]

Thinking UE60 Aris, UE40 Kei.... uhhh I'm not sure if I want to UE Himari...

[gleaming wren]

idk if I hear buffer i just think of it

[copper crescent]

fair

[gleaming wren]

[compact sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030399686638575656/1465091018671128824/arudemonposession.gif

[copper crescent]

but yeah bhimari and kei are unusual buffers

[gleaming wren]

i don't remember what their kits do

[supple star]

does she has retention in enhanced+ ?

[copper crescent]

no

she has hp

[supple star]

bruv

[gleaming wren]

i only know kei is cracked

[copper crescent]

she buffs via her ts

kei is super cracked

[compact sparrow]

darn I need to put these in a planner

[full granite]

Her buff is 40 seconds if she times out that hp IS buff retention

[steep vortex]

kei and aris are cracked

best fest

[copper crescent]

51% atk that fits nearly everywhere

[gleaming wren]

lol

[copper crescent]

aoe for 2 cost

[gleaming wren]

ggs torment raids

[supple star]

[gleaming wren]

WAIT I REMEMBERED

[crude sable]

The 2 cost in itself is crazy for what she does

[gleaming wren]

she buffed damage dealt right

[copper crescent]

interesting take but uh

yeah

[gleaming wren]

i remember saying there was gonna be a character who would do this but ppl didn't believe me

"its too broken!!!"

[opaque dagger]

Aris Mech actually can one tap Goz Tor if you're willing to bald

[atomic arrow]

I believed you

[copper crescent]

idek what ur prediction was bro

[opaque dagger]

Blue is now the new Red

[copper crescent]

yeah

red is now the new blue

...

[gleaming wren]

just say im right everytime I speak and we're good

[copper crescent]

bruh

[odd geyser]

did you inspect element MSuzumi's skill desc to make this

[feral jetty]

kisaki's skill

[opaque dagger]

Fes eff aura buffer with Atk buffs
DPS so good she beats everyone on D mood

[fleet narwhal]

weren't you predicting you'd be a mod too

[feral jetty]

i stole the basics proficiency part from msuzumi

[gleaming wren]

(I didn't even apply)

[compact sparrow]

[fleet narwhal]

psmh

[opaque dagger]

This is Hina Dress and Hoshino Swimsuit reskinned

[gleaming wren]

if I did i would have banned u

[opaque dagger]

Only difference is that Kei cannot tank

[compact sparrow]

Congratulations, you have been selected as our next mod!

[gleaming wren]

wow thanks

[fleet narwhal]

fool

[compact sparrow]

[fleet narwhal]

i killed Kyatoru already

[gleaming wren]

please ban deno

[fleet narwhal]

what chance would you have

[compact sparrow]

no..

[crude sable]

Dont compare the marvelous mecha aris to 🚮 dhina like this bro

[opaque dagger]

You won't be saying this when you need to bald for 22/22

[odd geyser]

when the honey moon period is over, people will mald with her - it's how these things go

[opaque dagger]

It is straight up the same brand of bald

[odd geyser]

DHina was loved on launch

[crude sable]

Balding is always a given with aris, its part of her charm

[feral jetty]

let it be known that i hated dhina from the beginning

not even for crit mald

[feral jetty]

but because i wanted to use azusa on indoor tmt hiero

[odd geyser]

I used Azusa anyway

[copper crescent]

this is so uncanny

[odd geyser]

she got the killing blow

[feral jetty]

i mean azusa as the main dps

[atomic arrow]

222

[feral jetty]

i used azusa for def down

[opaque dagger]

It's ok, Indoor Hiero has been deleted from existence

[copper crescent]

no i mean iwak having 2 cost

[gleaming wren]

if iwak had 2 cost she would be a nightmare in pvp

[obsidian heath]

🚀 🚮

[supple star]

ooh
its extended based on her hp

[full granite]

Not what I meant

[copper crescent]

huh

[full granite]

Her buff gets refreshed as long as he lives

[copper crescent]

yes

it's just idk how to feel about that take

[supple star]

yea but i didnt know the other thing

[full granite]

If she lives the full 30 seconds without dying you get 40 seconds of piercing efficiency like nykayoko

[supple star]

actually im just reading her kit

[full granite]

If she dies early you get less

Hence the hp buff is basically retention

[copper crescent]

I see now

[polar orbit]

🤨

that's like saying giving boshi more hp is debuff retention

[compact sparrow]

man..

[crude sable]

Oh yeah, the shops reset, time to pay taxes

[compact sparrow]

I'm so rich

[copper crescent]

guys if iori has a bg that makes her lowers her ex cost by 1 every time she does her basic

will she be rly good

[snow portal]

Iori

[obsidian heath]

iori bg
lol
lmao

[polar orbit]

Iori is already 3 cost

[crude sable]

Mines l2d kinda fire ngl

[snow portal]

Iori does have a bg

[copper crescent]

oh damn

[polar orbit]

you should bond uncap her

[full granite]

Not really the same thing since himaris wheelchair isnt a tank...

[simple ravine]

what about useful iori and not this one

shes too strong for a bg tho

[full granite]

I was saying that in jest regardless but you get what I meant

[atomic arrow]

you're welcome...

[lilac solar]

hmm perhaps I should bond uncap tmari

[untold tusk]

gpd do I roll for BHoshino?

[copper crescent]

yes

[lilac solar]

just boshi it

[compact sparrow]

whew

[loud knoll]

you will have all 3 Nezos if you do

[compact sparrow]

the planner is looooking

very chill

[untold tusk]

I have 48K pyroxenes will my roll plan for the year still be possible if I roll BHoshino?

[fleet narwhal]

i thought you play on jp ?

[copper crescent]

yes

they play on jp

[fleet narwhal]

...so what plan

[copper crescent]

planning for next fest

and limiteds

[fleet narwhal]

even if they were at 0 they would be fine if that was the only goal

[untold tusk]

My roll plan is as said before
Dress Ako, SHanako, 5.5 fes SIroha and ???, SHiyori and magical rerun

[dim frigate]

Almost zero chance 5.5 is pandemonium btw

[copper crescent]

yeah

[teal nova]

siroha

[fleet narwhal]

apart from dress ako, none of these are guaranteed to happen before next fes

hell, shanako/madoka/shiyori are beyond unlikely

[untold tusk]

Iroha alt will happen in 5-6 months no?

[fleet narwhal]

there is a chance

[copper crescent]

yes

[old rose]

[fleet narwhal]

since shes getting shorts

[copper crescent]

there is a chance

[fleet narwhal]

but its not a a guarantee

[copper crescent]

u just need to hold onto that chance, however slim it may be

[opaque dagger]

Hiyori Swimsuit is now lmao good luck

[copper crescent]

jp

[fleet narwhal]

so, in roughly 6 months on jp

[opaque dagger]

Prolly need to wait for perma

[teal nova]

sshupo is better

[opaque dagger]

Whenever that happens

[dim frigate]

Most alts foreshadowed in the shorts happen within 2-3 months. Odds are pandemonium will be the limited event before fes

[steep vortex]

that’s my guess

i don’t see them being fest, again

[lilac solar]

fox squad fes theory is alive and well

[untold tusk]

Guess for me I am rolling Dress Ako, SIroha and SHanako recollect before fes 5.5
Will my pyroxenes be enough if I roll BHoshino?

[copper crescent]

yeah gehenna doesn't have anyone on fes tier aside from hina

[fleet narwhal]

then again, seia was twice prefes

[steep vortex]

that’s because shes seia lmao

they were making up for lost time

[fleet narwhal]

shanako is not getting recollect before 5.5, I can bet on that

with 100% certainty

[teal nova]

also shanhaijing has no alt beside shunny and csaya

[steep vortex]

shanghaijing will never get new alts

[untold tusk]

SHanako not getting recollect is easier for I is one less roll

[steep vortex]

they showed that with runny recently

[fleet narwhal]

but

shun has an alt

[steep vortex]

new alts

its been over 3 years

[feral jetty]

kokona alt never

[untold tusk]

I just have a feeling SHanako might be added to recollect before fes 5.5

[fleet narwhal]

well, you're wrong but you can think that if you want

[proven dove]

If the next recollect is before 5.5, she might be added her and dhina

[fleet narwhal]

took almost 2 years for them to make recollection banner for wakamo/shosh/mika

[lilac solar]

dress kokona 6.0 fes

[fleet narwhal]

i believe with utmost certainty they wont make a recollection for shanako just a year after her last banner

[untold tusk]

Is best scenario for I if they do not add SHanako to fes recollection banner

[proven dove]

They can remove 2 fes from each fes and total number of fes offrates stay the same (10)

[untold tusk]

So will pyroxenes for the roll plan be fine if I decide to roll BHoshino?

[proven dove]

Tbh I think they will :p her and dhina too, but I don't know if the recollect banner will be before or after 5.5

[polar orbit]

I'd do it

[lilac solar]

boshilet = golden brick

[proven dove]

If you want get boshino go for it it's worth it and you have the pyros.

And know that every rerun during fes likely will be the only one before eventually getting switched to recollect.

Just make sure to contain yourself in the permanent banner and save pyros after fes :3

[zealous tusk]

Is global gonna maintain a 3 month delay or are they planning to sync global and the rest?

[polar orbit]

3 month

[fleet narwhal]

we arent even at 3 month delay yet...

but the plan is to reduce it to 3 months and keep it that way

until further notice

[untold tusk]

I am just concern I do not have pyroxenes by the time Dress Ako rerun happens

[lilac solar]

two more months of acceleration

[dim frigate]

This would be amazing but it’ll prob stay at 3 month

[fleet narwhal]

more like 1.5 month

[lilac solar]

rounding error

[fleet narwhal]

we already accelerated i think 46 days ?

[dim frigate]

Yeah we’re 6 weeks off now

[proven dove]

You'll have enough, just as I said as long as you don't spend them on permanent banners.

You seem like the kind who'll fall to banners like csena or wildhunt tbh :p

[zealous tusk]

Got it, was checking banners and noticed that bunny neru has the same date as CH 6 so I thought they'd be rushing to sync everything

[dim frigate]

There’s 2 easily cut weeks coming up too

[untold tusk]

I would perhaps have rolled Miyo?
I do not like CSena design too much

[polar orbit]

They started this acceleration project a full year ago and said they wanted it done by end of 2025 they aren't rushing at all

[zealous tusk]

Kinda wish they'd do S Hina and magical girl banners at the same time

So if I luck out and get M suzumi I could pity for S hina

[fleet narwhal]

no chance they'll do that with a new limited banner

[lilac solar]

I sparked kanoe and spooked csena

[polar orbit]

The only next obvious cut is meru/minori/oshig

Anything else is iffy

[supple star]

wait i still dont get it
you mean a total of 40 s no??

[lilac solar]

fine by me I already have oshiggy

[fleet narwhal]

these 2 are like the only banners they might combine with something else

[copper crescent]

holy aaris energy beam

so satisfying

[summer dew]

uhh i think i failed math a bit...

[untold tusk]

Kurokoless or BHoshinoless.............?

[dim frigate]

They would maybe do the opposite direction and tag it on the ritsu banner

[summer dew]

well we don't need chihi for a while right?

[polar orbit]

The only problem with the s.iori one is the raid schedule. Not that they couldn't desync it but there is raid JFD raid back to back to back

[fleet narwhal]

that could happen

[untold tusk]

Which is better?

[teal nova]

kurokolet is better

[fleet narwhal]

ye i think the only banner that wouldnt change anything with raiding schedule is the oshiggy one

[polar orbit]

Yeah

[fleet narwhal]

which is why I believe they will skip only 1 more week before next fes

...so we'll be left with 5 weeks to cut after that.... they sure are not in a rush

[polar orbit]

Fr

[full granite]

A total of 40s ye

[zealous tusk]

I hope they combine Sports Yuuka banner with ninja club event to save me trouble at least

[polar orbit]

It's already combined with kisaki

You're not getting better than that

[zealous tusk]

Already have kisaki so I was planning to skip

[fleet narwhal]

i mean, maybe he owns kisaki already

[polar orbit]

Yeah it not moving lol

[fleet narwhal]

but wont change the fact that they are not gonna shift the banner for no reason

[zealous tusk]

Welp was coping anyway, still gonna roll for Yuuka so guess I'll pity for S mari if lucky

[polar orbit]

You're gonna have to roll for just yuuka

[zealous tusk]

Shame I'd have to skip ninja club

[loud knoll]

you dont need her for anything other than luna hod, wakamo and some bizarre FoS teams

[supple star]

where does it say you get 40s tho?

[proven dove]

You don't need to care about bricks since you're not focused on raids

[dim frigate]

That banner won’t change but duration might be shorter

[proven dove]

This to @untold tusk

[feral jetty]

buff lasts 12 seconds and bhimari gives you the buff for the last time 2 seconds before leaving