#💬gameplay-discussion

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candid gust
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lol

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also satsuko is important

desert sphinx
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crap, I forgot to recast cover

polar orbit
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I wonder if we may see boshi get dropped

opaque dagger
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Current rotation is boshi eating the 900%, so yea...

candid gust
opaque dagger
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No, that can never happen because you need a tank for the AA

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What will most likely happen is early Kirino Swimsuit cover

signal hound
opaque dagger
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So double cover soaks up the missiles

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And Boshi does not eat 900%

polar orbit
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Interesting

polar orbit
# signal hound in FRR?

Yeah she's barely living floor 120 chokmah. If they wanna go higher they need to figure something out

candid gust
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oh btw stab mald involves

opaque dagger
pliant kelp
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oh now i knew why they made it to f120

polar orbit
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D mood btw

candid gust
dim frigate
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reijo and kei missed the 4 star party

candid gust
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hvae fun

signal hound
opaque dagger
# polar orbit D mood btw

I think to go to 124, either you bring Bike instead of Ibuki, or you fit 2 covers into missile rain

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Unless Boshi actually survives 900% on 124

opaque dagger
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Conflicts with Ibuki

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Both Basic

polar orbit
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Something about skirino stat transfer being chonkier too

opaque dagger
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Shizuko is used in Yellow because they got no space for Ibuki there

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Wait actually

opaque dagger
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What if Mari Idol gets dropped for Reisa Magic in Yellow too

polar orbit
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Likely story

frail glen
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It a joke

candid gust
polar orbit
candid gust
frail glen
candid gust
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also imari is -9 cost every 3 ex uses

opaque dagger
candid gust
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right!

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no wonder boshino almost died

polar orbit
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I mean maybe she comes back to overheal boshi

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Yeah

opaque dagger
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Nah that means you drop Ibuki

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And Reijo probably dies because of that

signal hound
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Ibuki helps Reijo survive?

opaque dagger
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Well I guess you can overheal Reijo to survive

polar orbit
opaque dagger
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Iirc Reijo is the reason you need Atk Down on 120

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She's the one dying to a single missile iirc, unless I'm mistaken

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The only reason Boshi is dying is because people don't wanna cast double cover before missiles

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If you do that Boshi is bing chilling, but that hurts early dmg cycle I guess

hollow saddle
opaque dagger
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I am watching the F120 video

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Gahahahahaha

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Bro just cancelled missile rain

marble gust
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they cooked that up like 2h after aaris was released btw

old rose
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i mean thats standard

marble gust
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😟

old rose
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most rotations in high floor chok cancel missiles

wicked vine
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it is animated

opaque dagger
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Be like "oh you firing missiles? How about no"

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And then sometimes you Boshi juke the ground attack

old rose
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you almost always do ReisaDerp

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the burn hurts

opaque dagger
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High floor gaming truly is different

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Bruh that P2 energy boost overkill

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I don't think that was needed AronaJoy

teal nova
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that was pure hatredKoharuWheeze

pallid inlet
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I do wanna how

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How do you juke the missiles with boshi

opaque dagger
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Not missiles

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The ground attack

pallid inlet
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Oh that

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I know you can dodge it

opaque dagger
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Like, on lower floors you just eat that

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And don't care

pallid inlet
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But you can still dodge the missiles on boshi

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Somehow anyway

signal hound
old rose
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also I am convinced you can fit in another charge before the 2nd aaris ex of each groggy

opaque dagger
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Can you?

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It looks so insanely tight

old rose
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it doesn't look very tight at all lol

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there is well more than 4 seconds between the end of her EX and the end of groggy

opaque dagger
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Groggy is 20s right

signal hound
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Why isn't Kirino's EX aura deployed around the students? +ATK% is bad?

opaque dagger
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Save cost, cycle more Saori Swimsuit

pallid inlet
opaque dagger
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Oh then it's not possible

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Aris EX is 7.93s animation

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And charge up is 4s

pallid inlet
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Longer than uneru wtf

simple igloo
old rose
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kei is better atk buff

opaque dagger
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EX + double charge + EX is 23.86s

pallid inlet
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You’d have to prefire that

opaque dagger
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So you will miss out like, 2s of damage frames

old rose
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yea but you are firing you first EX early

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cuz the first 4 shots happen a lot earlier than the majority of the damage (the laser)

opaque dagger
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It's very exact then

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You can cast 2s before the Ballistas hit

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But everything else has to be exact

old rose
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yea it already is, the cycle back isn't hard because her ex takes so long lol

simple igloo
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how long after use her ex when baris start doing dmg

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2s?

signal hound
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What about you miss the final two seconds of Aris's EX?

simple igloo
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the last 10 hits is ahh anyway

old rose
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no, her EX is a pewpewpewpew with AR into backflip initiate mech laser

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the first four hits you can skip (the video already does)

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so just time groggy to lineup with laser

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and the vid has like 4.5 seconds between end of her damage and groggy, so u can definitely fit another charge

simple igloo
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top 5 pull

opaque dagger
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BLUE TORMENT IS NOW FREE

old rose
old rose
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unfortunately just barely not enough damage

simple igloo
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wah

opaque dagger
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Ya, slightly short

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You guys counted 4 buffers or 3

old rose
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max stab max crit was like 46m or smth

simple igloo
old rose
simple igloo
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oh wait i heard som1 talm abt kei basic not up

old rose
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nyk sub isn't active

opaque dagger
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Bald harder

old rose
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what are ur buffs?

opaque dagger
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Hare Camp

marble gust
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bruh im not doing 109 wtf is this

old rose
opaque dagger
old rose
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you don't generate enough cost to get that off before train kills you

simple igloo
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hm

old rose
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let me put in my fifth striker

frozen chasm
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hmmm how do you use aris

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just rio her to charge level 3

opaque dagger
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You drop Kayoko NY bro

frozen chasm
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then ex?

frozen birch
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whats new Aris terrain again?

round kayak
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no

teal nova
opaque dagger
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Oh Rio speedrun

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I was thinking Nagi Swimsuit

signal hound
frozen birch
# teal nova urban

hm. so she doesn't fully step on Wakamo but she kinda does since, Aris just does more raw i imagine

opaque dagger
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Wait then Kisaki Rio Aru Dress Kei

marble gust
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its broken

old rose
opaque dagger
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You just ignore and go for the 1 tap

old rose
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ur using tyuuka immediately? i think whatever side tyuuka isn't on will die

old rose
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nyk can tank a bit unlike chare

frozen chasm
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cause the energy level reset after ex

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there's no point double ex-ing

opaque dagger
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But this is a one tap

frail glen
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you know now I think about it
is S nagisa basically the more mald Rio
their design philosophy seem to be wrapped around "doing as many ex as possible during buff period"
Rio gives a straight forward attack buff while S Nagisa gives CDMG with no crit

old rose
opaque dagger
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Should be able to if you Nagi Swimsuit, no?

round kayak
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don't think it's needed since while mecha Aris is doing her ex animation you'll be rotating through the stack already

old rose
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with how long it takes to recharge to full and send another one ex via rio copy, all your buffs have run out

frozen chasm
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rio dont force you to cycle 4 skills to use it again

opaque dagger
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You pick a side and roll the 50/50, then you buff and charge and hit Goz

opaque dagger
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Is that not viable, Duck

frozen chasm
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I mean using rio to charge only

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not to shoot

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💀

opaque dagger
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You redraw after charging bro

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That's the whole point

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Aris redraws herself when you charge

pallid inlet
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It says so in the skill description

opaque dagger
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I think if you put Hare Camp at the side where you wanna do the 50/50, and go Yuuka Track -> buff + charge -> fire

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Hare Camp might live?

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I dunno

old rose
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it redraws when you charge

opaque dagger
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Ins is a 1 shot for sure with this

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Only need 3 buffs

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Kisaki/Seia Swimsuit, Nagi Swimsuit and Kei

old rose
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also what terrain are you calcing with?

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i don't reach 50m

pallid inlet
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Is it indoor or field

covert spoke
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think 2+2 will be more common on speedruns or 3+1

old rose
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indoor is better for aaris than field

covert spoke
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and dropping buffers for speed

old rose
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but still doesnt reach 50m

opaque dagger
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Dammit

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I forgot about terrain

old rose
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you are a fool

pallid inlet
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💀

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Did you select urban

opaque dagger
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47.5m

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So close, yet so far

pallid inlet
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One shotting sounds crazy

covert spoke
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maris kinda homeless

pallid inlet
covert spoke
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at least her bond is still contributing

opaque dagger
covert spoke
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eh

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yeah sorta but 2 dhina ex is doing similar shit

opaque dagger
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Unfortunately 5 buffers is not a real thing

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Actually, why would you even 4 buffers if no one shot

pallid inlet
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Because of the elephant in the room

opaque dagger
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Just 3 buffers 2 cycle it then

signal hound
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Doesn't goz get groggy halfway through the beam?

old rose
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if you time it well then goz will finish his trains attack first

pallid inlet
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If he doesn’t phase transition midway through

old rose
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he doesn't insta phase change after dropping below 30m

pallid inlet
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If he’s in the middle of an attack then no phase change

covert spoke
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correct

opaque dagger
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Bruh, because she does so much dmg in one hit

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The terrain diff is so obvious

pallid inlet
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And yet there’d still be insane cutoff on Asia

opaque dagger
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Also, just curious

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In that case, wouldn't 4 buffer 2 EX with 1 charge each be faster

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But that's some absurd crit balding

pallid inlet
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What buffers

opaque dagger
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Nagi Kisaki Kei Kayoko NY on Indoor

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Rolling 22 crits sounds just about impossible ngl

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Twice, in fact

old rose
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you have kei sub don't worry

opaque dagger
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Oh the guaranteed 500k dmg because Aris shits out so much dmg AronaJoy

old rose
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nah that's her basic

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kei sub increases crit

opaque dagger
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Oh the Crit buffs

old rose
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crit malding made easier

opaque dagger
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44.4% to 51.9%

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From bald to bald

marble gust
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lmao railgun misaki

pallid inlet
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Magical ReisaStare

opaque dagger
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2x charge feels like the way to go

pallid inlet
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Is mreisa good on chokmah?

opaque dagger
pallid inlet
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Wouldn’t she die or something

marble gust
opaque dagger
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You cast after the missiles

frozen chasm
pallid inlet
covert spoke
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urban chok calc

pallid inlet
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Chokmah is dead

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But also the minimum and maximum

opaque dagger
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Too bad the next Hiero Tor does not have Aris Mech

pallid inlet
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Satsuki stab crit bald :baldshino:

pallid inlet
opaque dagger
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2 tap still bald tbh

somber raven
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How many month left on global on fes

daring coral
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What if I call new arisu

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Eris

fresh edge
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4-5 months

daring coral
somber raven
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I have 10k pyrox

frozen chasm
daring coral
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Better than wario

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Ebi eshuh arisu > Eris

frozen chasm
daring coral
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Oh I must’ve misremembered the name then

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So just aaris

frozen chasm
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just type mech aris

frail glen
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imagine someone read it as
abbie is huh

frozen chasm
daring coral
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imma just call her arisu strike freedom

frozen chasm
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AC 6 aris

daring coral
frozen chasm
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clanker aris

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claris

covert spoke
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3+1 will prob kill hiero

frail glen
frozen chasm
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holy shit

frail glen
daring coral
frozen chasm
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call her Claris

daring coral
old rose
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mcdonalds aris to go with burger king himari

opaque dagger
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Actually, Blue raids in JP is now gonna be a torture

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Because JP is so competitive

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Now everyone has to do Aris balding

daring coral
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Even with mech arisu

frail glen
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imagine playing BA for competition
can't be me

daring coral
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Asia won’t tor cutoff

covert spoke
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think theres potential for krkg

frail glen
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would peroro ga happen before geburah ga

covert spoke
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peroro ga has happened multiple times

frail glen
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i mean like

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in the future

dim frigate
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release gundam aris then run no blue raids for 6 months

frail glen
daring coral
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Corrosive damage

covert spoke
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geburah ga is just not viable atm bc i dont think people are gonna bother with raising karin as the only option for GA ranks

old rose
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doesnt satsuki outperfom karin on yellow

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the problem is we have no good purple or blue

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im pretty sure yellow tor is doable

covert spoke
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double iwak clears blue im sure but

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thats a wild statement

opaque dagger
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Purple is the real problem

covert spoke
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i mean i think it is too but

old rose
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we have a surplus of red specials that all deal 100% damage to yellow

covert spoke
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purple is not a problem because its so lacking in options that its not up for consideration

daring coral
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Mika body throw will prolly work somewhat decent

opaque dagger
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They run it anyways just for the memes

daring coral
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She can take a lot of heat from me geb missiles

pallid inlet
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Double iwak is absolutely insane

covert spoke
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well yeah it would clear insane

old rose
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honestly a uneru team would probably do a lot over 4 minutes

pallid inlet
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How exactly would iwak be doing enough damage on insane then

opaque dagger
covert spoke
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kinda scuffed that you'd run iwak skanna though

old rose
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why not just uasuna

covert spoke
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you use 2 iwak

opaque dagger
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Ye double buffer Maki would be better no?

old rose
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oh for the second one lmao

covert spoke
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i mean ig u could ssaki but prob worse

old rose
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yea skanna is better debuff and cycle as well

opaque dagger
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Does Fish dmg hit first before debuff applies

daring coral
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With idol team

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It’s enough to wanpan ins

covert spoke
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o yeah smash

candid gust
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guys

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guys

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old rose
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nah

covert spoke
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xd

pallid inlet
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What

old rose
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the devs made a mistake

pallid inlet
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F124

old rose
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is not too late to roll out the emergency balance patch

candid gust
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@opaque dagger

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F124

dim frigate
frozen chasm
candid gust
covert spoke
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lmfao boshi hp...

dim frigate
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more frr floors comin shiroko

old rose
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D MOOD BY THE WAY

pallid inlet
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Actually would you need Imari for chokmah if mreisa is there

candid gust
opaque dagger
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Boshi survives the 900% like a gigachad

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Holy

candid gust
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not bald right?

opaque dagger
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:baldshino:

dim frigate
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reisa working overtime to keep this team alive

opaque dagger
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@polar orbit the deed is done

candid gust
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😟

opaque dagger
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I legit thought they would 2 cover missiles

dim frigate
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oh thats cool kirino stays alive just long enough and the ball just times out

candid gust
opaque dagger
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And they went "nah, Boshi'd win"

candid gust
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yea just stab mald instead

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hitting low stab

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😟 😟

dim frigate
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kei so powerful

pure vessel
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you can't just come at me a month later and tell me this

old rose
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our first legitimate f124

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how far we've come

candid gust
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😟

old rose
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💀

dim frigate
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they'll just never run her good mood ReisaStare

candid gust
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Devs saw blue was so weak so they released an op one

old rose
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if nexon pulls out the emergency nerf i wouldn't even be mad

candid gust
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from the weakest color to the strongest

signal hound
dim frigate
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yeah nothing bad will happen if you nerf a character people already whaeld for lol

old rose
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i did say i wouldn't be mad

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some people would be

signal hound
old rose
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just moggs wakamo and kuroko in everything ever

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wakamo primary use case relegated to yesod

candid gust
opaque dagger
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Who needs the 2 charge

wicked vine
old rose
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yea they just dont need the damage lol

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also no cost by the end

wicked vine
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the colors move around

idle rampart
dim frigate
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bond gear upgrade inc for WakamoCoffee

wicked vine
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so its technically animated

wicked vine
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just very subtly

idle rampart
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the most climatic chokmah fight

old rose
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also we have a whole one second to spare and some stab/crit mald

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f125 when

dim frigate
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i mean ill be honest if this wasnt enough to kill 124

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what was supposed ot kill it

old rose
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an outdoor dps maybe

pallid inlet
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So f2p

covert spoke
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this was less than i thought it'd be

frozen birch
pallid inlet
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But also that ssaori isn’t borrow

old rose
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oh true kuroko primary use case is blue set

pallid inlet
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Mcaris would be dead in blue set

old rose
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good to see all the other blue dps still have a piece of content where they shine

frozen birch
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Wakamo’s the worst off really

old rose
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yesod ShizukoStonks

covert spoke
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you know, we could get a new boss that specifically is bad for aaris if shes gonna be powercreeping wrong mood stuff like this

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it'd be fair

pallid inlet
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Yesod still a usecase

frozen birch
old rose
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maybe mcaris annihilates yesod too tho idk

pallid inlet
old rose
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who needs 2x damage

pallid inlet
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Unless

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Blue yesod

covert spoke
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i can see her doing decent on yesod

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you get a bunch of free cost so

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shes getting a gigabuffed ex off, even if doesnt ignore dr

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or effectiveness

old rose
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its correct mood too

covert spoke
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like if you gifted uneru a free max stack ex she'd do good in some blue urban raids

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if she had no piercing in her kit

pallid inlet
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She kinda does

covert spoke
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i mean thats with her having so much effectiveness in her kit, imagine without

pallid inlet
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Wait what

frozen birch
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I wonder what a hypothetical Shun bond gear would do

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Not that she needs it ofc

covert spoke
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increase basic to 4.8

wide basin
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ye that or atk

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more cost is definitely

old rose
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make her basic proc faster so she doesn't brick herself

wide basin
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nah

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they fix it

covert spoke
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||when she gets 3 kills, recast basic||

prime geyser
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wide basin
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u late

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whelrai

prime geyser
signal hound
prime geyser
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F2p fr

steep vortex
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damn f124

old rose
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nerf pls maripray

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it was an accident

opaque dagger
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I have been here long enough to witness complete powercreep

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One thing off the bucket list

candid gust
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I got notif so i sent the link very fast

covert spoke
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dhina still prob a bigger creep for her time

old rose
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this is powercreeping other fest tho

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so still new

candid gust
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shoshi:

idle rampart
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remember

round kayak
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rio:

idle rampart
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this is not just one powercreep

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this is double powercreep

covert spoke
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think dhina is easier comparison bc
press button 3 times
deal infinite damage in her color

frozen chasm
idle rampart
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imagine if shoshino and dhina released at the same fest

frozen chasm
old rose
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it is another press button 3 times = deal damage

opaque dagger
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That's funny, cos Aris is the same

idle rampart
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aris and kei released at the same time and just powercreep every single blue dps

opaque dagger
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Press 3 buttons
Infinite blue dmg

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In fact, both are subject to stupid amounts of rolls

marble gust
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kris ur comment sounds kinda

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😟

dim frigate
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this is all s.nagisa's fault

covert spoke
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every problem with this game is due to irresponsibly assigning backpacks to meta buffers

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double m.reisa summons hp inheritance and give that kid a pin

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nagi should be pin too

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no wakamo shenanigans, no brokoless 124

merry mango
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20 million backpacks

signal hound
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AAris bond 109 btw

unique marten
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Very fast today

covert spoke
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well done

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keep it up!

signal hound
unique marten
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Remove daru?

signal hound
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yeah

  1. Rio (SMika)
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  3. SMika (2nd box)
  4. Akane (3rd box)
  5. Rio (SMika)
  6. SMika (c) (3rd box)
simple zinc
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240k jfd impossible for me.

covert spoke
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smika skipper...?

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or impossible bc dont click enter

summer spire
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For me 252k is possible but after malding 1h I'm ain't doing that anymore HoshinoFumo

blissful arrow
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covert spoke
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🐌

summer spire
simple zinc
blissful arrow
opaque dagger
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Can she survive on 3* 👀

summer spire
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Rejio looks tanky enough to me KoyukiStare

opaque dagger
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Hmm, I dunno, you can always go calc it

astral fern
opaque dagger
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My guess is UE30 needed, but what do I know

summer spire
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Well ue30 is not that expensive

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And I'll do 800 pulls on anniversary so elimga do not problem IbukiYay

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Also i hope global will get that 5% discount

obtuse crane
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Is this good for newbie guys?

simple zinc
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Is it possible to get 180 elphs in 10 days ...

simple zinc
summer spire
simple zinc
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Pyro shop.....

summer spire
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Last time on anniversary i spent around 500-600$ so basically I'll get one pack for free sounds like a good deal to me tbh

marble gust
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bro

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steam is basically 20-30% discount

summer spire
simple zinc
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How?

summer spire
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But google play is greedy

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Like this is how many points i have and i can't convert them cuz country diff

rose perch
#

IGT: 02:35
RTA: 03:09.893

summer spire
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And i was like what's wrong with the gif

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Lol and ice is too close together

rose perch
#

Ah, I see the reference now

opaque dagger
#

@old rose is this realistic or not

candid gust
#

😟

opaque dagger
#

The problem with this is: can you get Nagi Basic onto Goz

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If you can, the one tap is real with insane balding

candid gust
#

just use sizuna

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be smarter bruh

opaque dagger
#

Oh you can't

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Cos 4 buffers + Yuuka Track

candid gust
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wtf lmao

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is this p2

opaque dagger
#

No

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This is one tap Tor

candid gust
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you can't one tap tor tho

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2 taps maybe

opaque dagger
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I mean...I've got the 50m

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See above calcs

candid gust
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problem is

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snagisa might not land on real goz

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so yea

opaque dagger
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Ye that's my question

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Can you get that to hit Goz

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Cos without that Basic you don't hit 50m

candid gust
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Just repos to real goz

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The centroid will be moved

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so snagisa can hit real goz

opaque dagger
#

It's still very bald

candid gust
#

indeed

opaque dagger
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Cos it's max stab max crit

candid gust
#

crit res exists for a reason

opaque dagger
#

But ye, if no one found a way to 50m yet this morning while I was asleep

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This is it, there is a way

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But how realistic it is, I dunno

candid gust
#

it's only in theory

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like mido said

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40M hiero used to be possible

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in theory

opaque dagger
#

Ye in theory

candid gust
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if you hit 95% crit

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of dhina's shot

opaque dagger
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I mean, just hit 22/22

candid gust
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iirc the best effort was 39.991M in CN

candid gust
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it's more than that

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cuz t8

opaque dagger
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No, I meant for Goz

candid gust
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and akomari

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ah

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nah idt it's possible

opaque dagger
#

Ok I vod reviewed

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In order for Nagi Basic to hit

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You need to repo up to Goz, yep

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Cos train hits at 30s

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You'll need to delay Nagi Basic or something

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Or you repo and pray that it hits

rocky cosmos
#

?

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Just focus fire why are you bringing repos

opaque dagger
#

Can you survive 35s without shield

rocky cosmos
#

Sure

opaque dagger
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Doesn't Goz bomb hit like a truck

rocky cosmos
#

Just let your buffer tank it

candid gust
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wtf lmao it's just so clown

rocky cosmos
#

Doesn't matter if she die after you use her buff

opaque dagger
#

Well if you rely on Nagi cost debt...

candid gust
#

just stack the cost

rocky cosmos
#

It's 30s you get like 15 cost

candid gust
#

Assuming ue60 supports

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It's easy

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problem is crit striking

pallid inlet
#

Goz has crit res

candid gust
#

yes

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that's the problem

opaque dagger
#

You have about 18 cost

candid gust
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if you think dhina is already bad

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top 1 crit scam

opaque dagger
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2 + 3 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 12

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Actually not enough

summer dew
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just get a better toilet guys

opaque dagger
#

You need the cost debt

pallid inlet
#

18 cost rotation

opaque dagger
#

The rotation is 24 cost if Izuna Swimsuit to force Nagi Basic

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25 with Yuuka Track

pallid inlet
#

Huh

candid gust
#

Huh

opaque dagger
#

So without cost debt you need 48s

candid gust
#

atp just do lun thanks

opaque dagger
#

True but I like this fun exercise

pallid inlet
#

:baldshino:

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Will you try to bald this one out

opaque dagger
#

Nah I'd just 2 tap and call it a day lmao

candid gust
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i will just

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do lun

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😟

pallid inlet
#

At that point I’d just use wakamo

opaque dagger
#

It's actually much faster with Aris though

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It's sub 2 mins

candid gust
#

idk if we can 2 pans goz lun

pallid inlet
#

The setup to get that insane damage

candid gust
#

maybe yes

astral fern
#

https://youtu.be/igigmjXGEsM not surprised now

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candid gust
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cool

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we gettjng more reposts

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happiness

astral fern
opaque dagger
astral fern
pallid inlet
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:baldshino:

simple ravine
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next fest will 1shot lunaticNatsuStareSoul

obsidian heath
#

well that didn't take long

opaque dagger
strange ridge
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MoodD Field btw

obsidian heath
#

now I see I typed "not" instead of "now" lmfao

strange ridge
#

Welp

opaque dagger
strange ridge
#

Hod Indoor GA will be annihilated

rocky cosmos
#

Actually why are you doing focus fire repos?
Isn't doing sseia aris nykayo kei sroko snagi better

marble gust
#

wut raid

pallid inlet
opaque dagger
rocky cosmos
#

That's too slow

strange ridge
#

All of Hod and its entire family line

pallid inlet
#

Yellow is dead

opaque dagger
#

No way 2 cycle is faster than 1 cycle + waiting for Nagi Basic

rocky cosmos
#

Wdym two cycle?

strange ridge
#

Its the +40% dmg up that really breaks everything

pallid inlet
#

Would red hod urban be deleted by d hina as usual

opaque dagger
#

Last I checked, you don't hit 50m with that team

candid gust
strange ridge
#

Remember the time when fest students had a +24% dmg boost? Yeah I don't remember that.

candid gust
opaque dagger
#

Or do you just toss in Shiroko Swimsuit EX

pallid inlet
#

Right

candid gust
#

Haiza just do lun

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Tor isn't guaranteed plat anymore

pallid inlet
#

Iwak making a diff here

candid gust
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baris is just too broken

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just do lun atp

pallid inlet
#

Iwak damage is baby with baldris

strange ridge
#

Anything blue will prpbably be needing a luna clear

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Well...

pallid inlet
#

And the def debuff is not worth it on goz

#

The powercreep on goz lunatic

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As for peroro lunatic maybe something changes?

strange ridge
#

Tho Goz Luna most probably can't be wanpanned

opaque dagger
pallid inlet
strange ridge
#

And Perorodzilla field still has its own challenges

opaque dagger
#

Then yea, you need Himari for 1 tap

signal hound
opaque dagger
#

Himari Seia Swimsuit Nagi Swimsuit Kei with Nagi Basic hits 50m

strange ridge
#

As much as we know of Waris dmg outputs, vs Perorodzilla, I still don't think she can outpower B. Hosh

pallid inlet
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Not even a quarter of a million hp

pallid inlet
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Even a maxed out iwak is barely scratching goz

strange ridge
#

But vs Shirokuro

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Goz

obsidian heath
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I usually doubted the 124 hype but this was something else

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it's astonishing it didn't even take him a week of critmalding with D mood

pallid inlet
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I can already imagine srkr lunatic is gonna be balanced around double Baldris or something

strange ridge
#

I'll be surprised and disgusted if Waris can wanpan.

Yeah I think I can understand the HP Bloat

opaque dagger
# pallid inlet Lol no

So the question now is, what is the way to do this:

  • Yuuka Track repo to move the whole team to get Nagi to target Goz
  • Focus fire and hope we survive 35-40s
strange ridge
#

Repo is always better

pallid inlet
#

That I don’t want to find out

opaque dagger
#

I'll wait for Duck's input, he's asleep now

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Thing is

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The main person at risk of dying if focus fire

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is Kei AronaJoy

pallid inlet
#

Hairpin moment

opaque dagger
#

No, because she's the only non-Blue non-Purple in the team

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Oh wait Aris too AronaJoy

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Izuna Swimsuit and Seia Swimsuit are Blue armor

pallid inlet
#

Considering goz hits hard

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Yeah

opaque dagger
#

Ye I was saying, Goz hits so hard

pallid inlet
#

They expect you to use shields

opaque dagger
#

Ok scrap the focus fire idea, 100% doesn't work

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Holy shit that dmg even on resist

summer dew
#

who is the target

rocky cosmos
#

That's lower than sizuna hp tho

opaque dagger
#

Izuna Swimsuit

opaque dagger
rocky cosmos
#

Also it's slow

opaque dagger
#

Actually wait, I forgot the most important thing

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Someone will die to train because cycle is over 30s

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So it doesn't matter, you need Yuuka Track

west perch
#

just saying this idea dies to rabbit rockets

rocky cosmos
#

Hmm... Hare is better than kayoko
But still not enough HoshinoSleep

opaque dagger
#

Hare is better yes

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But to hit 50m you need both Himari and Nagi's Basic

summer dew
#

ue30 snin will survive that dmg even without stat transfers

opaque dagger
west perch
#

no aoe to clear the first wave Miyujiii

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no shield either

rocky cosmos
#

If you are hellbend on keeping everyone alive try qtomoe instead of wasting striker slot tyuuka

opaque dagger
opaque dagger
marble gust
#

aris aa/basic can do no

opaque dagger
#

Yea you rely on AA

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The key thing is Nagi's Basic

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That must hit Goz

summer dew
#

you can get sizuna basic to hit goz

opaque dagger
#

Peav's idea was to repo close to Goz to get Nagi to hit Goz

rocky cosmos
#

I mean

opaque dagger
#

The hard part is that the Basic is 35s and not 30s, and 2nd wave of mobs spawned by then

opaque dagger
rocky cosmos
opaque dagger
#

Problem is if you remove Nagi, no cost debt so cycle is slower

#

But ye this works too

#

And yours is probably more consistent with Tomoe Qipao buffs

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Trade off I guess, ultra bald sub 40s, or a 50s clear that is far, far more realistic

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Still very bald

west perch
#

I'd still say not possible

pliant kelp
#

am i allowed to send the f124 link guys
or someone sent it before

opaque dagger
#

We've already seen it 5 times AronaJoy

pliant kelp
#

fair enough

west perch
#

no, no. send it again. I haven't seen it clueless

summer dew
#

ive not but im not interested either tho

opaque dagger
west perch
#

survival & repos issues

opaque dagger
#

I agree that it's an insanely unrealistic roll

candid gust
#

Cost debt only works if you have full strikers

west perch
#

first you gotta kill the first fucking wave

candid gust
west perch
#

then you gotta repos to not be fucked by train

pallid inlet
#

Id be damned if someone actually makes that theoretical scenario happen

still sparrow
rocky cosmos
#

Actually hmm... Isn't this only 26s?
Before first train hit

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Just use cost debt to use aris ex

west perch
#

if you don't kill the first wave, you're likely not avoiding the train properly either

opaque dagger
#

Problem is you probably die before the 26s

rocky cosmos
#

Ah there aris charge

#

I forgot something MiyakoBedge

#

Nah no one is dying before 26s

opaque dagger
#

The other thing is first Goz bomb hits before 25s

west perch
#

baris dies in 2 rabbit rockets + aa

opaque dagger
#

Someone will die

west perch
#

there's also bear slams

#

bear slams do damage if it's not your tank

opaque dagger
#

The Tomoe Qipao one looks doable imo

#

Aris AA is quite fast no?

rocky cosmos
#

Idk you are thinking too much I think
We did silly on reposlet start before it's fine MiyakoBedge

west perch
#

there's 4 rabbits and 4 bears that are all separated in the very first wave

rocky cosmos
#

It's fast
Kei AA also goes through she is rg remember

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It helps kill back line with proper angle

opaque dagger
#

Ok you still die to Goz bomb

obsidian heath
#

cast shield first 🛌

opaque dagger
#

No they were proposing shieldless

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With shield this can be attempted, I like the Tomoe Qipao one

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Looks the most realistic out of all the suggestions

rocky cosmos
#

Nah they'll live I have nothing to back this but my own believe ARS_KotoriAckshually

opaque dagger
#

It would be insanely funny if someone pulls this off

#

Sub 1 min Goz

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on Torment AronaJoy

pliant bluff
rocky cosmos
#

Well one ex is one thing but sub 1 min should be easy

pliant bluff
#

||iirc one tested it and she dealt 100m dmg||

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Oh wait torment?

rocky cosmos
#

Dead strat is pretty stron

candid gust
#

😟

opaque dagger
rocky cosmos
#

Yeah

#

Don't even need sroko tbh

opaque dagger
#

1 + 2 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 4 first cycle
2 + 3 + 3 + 12 second cycle

36 cost - 5 cost debt is 31 cost

rocky cosmos
#

It's dead strat you aren't doing snagi

opaque dagger
#

Unless it's charge -> Aris beam -> quickly buff all 3 -> charge back

#

Oh ded strat

covert spoke
rocky cosmos
#

Yea just let people die and shoot aris 3 times
Maybe 1 charge first ex

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Should kill MiyakoBedge

opaque dagger
#

Your buffs don't last that long, no?

rocky cosmos
#

No idea how it will works but my feeling says it would

opaque dagger
#

Also 0 charge with Tomoe Qipao + the 4 buffers you mentioned

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Is 18.8m max crit max stab

#

I dunno how you hitting 50m when one buff expires

covert spoke
#

1 charge then shoot -> go p2

#

comfy

opaque dagger
#

Comfy is 2 tap ye, but we were discussing theoretical 1 taps

covert spoke
#

who cares

#

itd be slower

opaque dagger
#

Nah, it's a 50s clear

#

Unless you do 2 teams with Shiroko Swimsuit and Shun I guess

covert spoke
#

sshiroko and shun should be where you start when theorycrafting the speedrun

rocky cosmos
#

Sseia 29.7 nykayo 47.6 kei 30
Just use their ex right before train hit
Then may rio sroko

covert spoke
#

well unsure whether iwak or dmichi better for this, could go either way depending on if u need to kill a bear while cycling

opaque dagger
#

They're all ded before that lmao

rocky cosmos
#

You are over estimating goz dmg

covert spoke
#

post the atsuko ss

opaque dagger
#

The usagis do like, 10k dmg to Aris and Kei

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With their AoE

rocky cosmos
#

I have 0 data backing me up rn, just experience rn and I think they'll survive MiyakoBedge

opaque dagger
#

I still think your best idea was Tomoe Qipao 👀, but I guess we can wait for Goz to happen in JP

desert sphinx
#

https://youtu.be/igigmjXGEsM?si=NGeJ8qUyLSVEfM4j

F124 clear??? Is this last level?

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https://youtu.be/igigmjXGEsM?si=NGeJ8qUyLSVEfM4j

wow guys have you seen this today

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rocky cosmos
#

Well it's just instict
Like on goz tmt before, troko shoshi wakamo nykayo team doesn't use qtomoe/sshizuko until 28s after fight
And there wakamo is still alive
Ik troko is fast but I just have a feeling it will work

desert sphinx
#

Whoot? I am 6th?

#

lol more peep

candid gust
#

Yea

marble gust
magic reef
#

😱

teal nova
#

can we stop spamming thisReisaDerp

candid gust
#

arch acting fr

desert sphinx
desert sphinx
#

Or maybe it is

daring coral
teal nova
rocky cosmos
#

Or if you are that worried about bomb there is also skikyou bait strat
I'm not going to think how it works tho that's easy to figure out when it come MiyakoBedge

candid gust
#

balls

summer dew
#

this JFD buff for snipers is going bonkers lol. first 2 boxes hyperbuffed ue50 maxed dsaori, and last one for 3777 t755 lvl65 3* yukari with 50 stacks OMEGALUL

pallid inlet
summer dew
#

urban MoodD moment

marble gust
obsidian heath
#

qtomoe as the sole healer sounds insane

pallid inlet
pallid inlet
opaque dagger
covert spoke
obsidian heath
pallid inlet
#

What the hell

covert spoke
#

qtomoe too good

covert spoke
#

even though qtomoe is f2p

pallid inlet
#

Mreisa is human rights

marble gust
#

i cant do past f104 ig

covert spoke
#

im not sure what point in the comp you start ue60ing reijo

obsidian heath
#

is she even close to dying

covert spoke
#

no its for damage

#

and she does no damage

obsidian heath
covert spoke
#

some of the 115s didnt even have her max glove

summer dew
obsidian heath
#

kei's acc does next to nothing

pallid inlet
#

Even boshi does more damage than reijo

covert spoke
#

boshi does good damage...

#

esp when spamming ex

pallid inlet
#

That 156% atk buff

opaque dagger
marble gust
#

kanoe 900 chare 300 uneru 900 rio 300 seia 900 nymucc 200 daru 600 bhosh 500 hinata 1k nyjunko 400

#

ah theres the 6k

pallid inlet
#

Would baldris cause a change in the fest banner priorities or still same as before?

summer dew
covert spoke
#

tbh yeah

opaque dagger
candid gust
#

you guess it

pallid inlet
#

I mean

#

Banner priority

opaque dagger
#

It's still Kei and Boshi first as usual

pallid inlet
#

Of course

covert spoke
#

kuroko dead in ditch

obsidian heath
#

newer players almost don't need wakamo and terror atp

opaque dagger
#

Wakamo is relegated to Yesod now, Kuroko is relegated to Set

pallid inlet
#

Which is crazy actually

marble gust
#

ngl im starting to

#

like if you started 5 years after game releases

opaque dagger
#

And there's Boshi for Pelolo ofc

pallid inlet
#

Wakamo used in the one raid where her atk type isn’t even favourable

pallid inlet
marble gust
#

then man like dont even think of chasing meta till youve played 3y

west perch
#

eh, chasing meta in what sense?

marble gust
#

idfk

west perch
#

most newbies can still chase hyperbuffers

opaque dagger
#

Wakamo/Kuroko prio dipped so insanely hard it's crazy

marble gust
#

ur gonna skip like kuroko bhosh

covert spoke
#

kuroko seems very easy skip now

opaque dagger
#

Nah, it's still Kei -> Boshi -> Aris

marble gust
#

and funny to assume the units after would be any weaker

opaque dagger
#

But ye, Blue is the new Red

pallid inlet
#

Skipped kuroko on her debut

#

Still skipping her on rerun apparently

opaque dagger
#

Outside of a few niches, you just nobrain Hina Dress. Now you do the same for Blue with Aris Mech

covert spoke
opaque dagger
#

Funniest part is that both have a Fes Eff buffer to accompany them

pallid inlet
#

Aris and Kei

#

They were made for each other

opaque dagger
#

Kei being 2 cost still blows my mind

pallid inlet
#

Does that mean acari is worse

marble gust
#

shes enh

covert spoke
#

no it means gtsubaki is worse

#

:c

marble gust
#

sadg

marble gust
opaque dagger
#

Kei doesn't survive Blue Set anyway

soft chasm
#

Not even a fes dps is safe with powercreeping, might as well focus on supports instead

west perch
marble gust
#

devs were like might as well

covert spoke
#

gtsubaki needs bond gear to give her 40% aspd buff on basic or someshit

pallid inlet
#

How would acari fare then?

marble gust
#

no slot

#

kei already does everything

west perch
#

acari gets away with usage in srkr

marble gust
opaque dagger
#

I wonder how far you can go with Kei on Blue Set before she starts dying

west perch
#

p2 tank ShizukoStonks

pallid inlet
#

That’s something I guess

marble gust
#

think ur gonna have an extra sustain slot if u run kei no

pallid inlet
#

There’s also fury of set so

covert spoke
#

prob like 110 with broko

#

being generous

west perch
#

how far did yellow chok go last time btw?

#

cuz we do have bhimari for that one as well

opaque dagger
#

122

west perch
#

oh ok so it's dead

marble gust
#

did we

opaque dagger
#

That's why I said

#

Both Chok prolly 124 clear now fr

west perch
#

1.2x flat multiplier to all damage

covert spoke
#

the issue with that isnt dmg though