#So not sure what to do here

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torn heron
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I’m not sure wheather to make this a DEW build or a carrier build I know I need either isomags or hangar consoles just gotta figure out what to do first any help is appreciated

cloud bridge
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Depends on what you like more and/or for what you have more (powerful) equipment available imho.

Your starship traits as they are look more like a pet build imho, your bridge is undecided what you want to do at all. Sort of.

Do you want to stay "theme", meaning with Jem pets?

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Other things/equipment to consider if you already have them or are sure you'll pick up eventually:

  • Ahwahnee (FPNA and T7s)
  • Heritage Bundle (best DPS pets)
  • Pahvan Omni (event reward from last year's Pahvan part)
  • Scramble Fighters ship trait
  • Friendship carrier (for the trait)

Just as a brainstorming.

Once you worked out with yourself what you wanna do, we can work on tuning the build

torn heron
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Yea if I do a pet build it’s gonna be theme so I’ll be sticking with one of the jem’hadar pets, as for traits that’s just my go to layout, eventually I will get the Ahwahnee and scramble fighters but as for the heritage bundle I doubt I’ll ever get the bundle or the friendship carrier, I also have a the pahvan Omni but I don’t see the benefit of it

cloud bridge
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Well, the Pahvan Omni is currently the most powerful set-omni there is, exepcially in multi-target builds, because of the resonance shock it procs. Out-DPSing every other set-omni, even same-damage-type ones.

Staying theme with Jem pets is absolutely viable, even more in the absence of the Heritage Bundle (Elite Valor Fighters would be the pet included there, which are currently the most powerful non-shiplocked pets you can get).

So probably just stay with what pets you have currently until you full assembled the rest of the build, then maybe swap them out to have some testing what feels better to you.

You intend the weapons also to stay Jem-theme (aka Polaron)?

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Do you own the Eleos and/or Vovin (both event ships from 2024)?

torn heron
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Yes to the Jem weapons, no to Eleos and vovin

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Mostly due to the fact I hate doing the summer and winter events because I hate risa and I’ve never done a winter event

cloud bridge
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Alr.

I'd try something like that then:

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Based on FaW to spread a) your own Attack Pattern Beta and b) as much threat as you can.

Disco 2pc (core/shield) for your own survivability. If you fancy the looks of the Jem pieces, put them into the visual slots.
Colony Deflector and Competitive Engines rounding up the DECS part to make you mobile and as much of a treat to pull attention away from your pets.

Regular beams instead of DBBs, as you don't aim for DPS, but for max. area coverage here, when you let your pets do the heavy lifting.

Obv. Hangar craft consoles in any free slot. Maybe even instead of the Piezzo focuser. TBD.
Once you get the Ahwahnee, exchange FPNA with the Flagship computer and slot a large Aux battery in your devices.

2x Protomatter consoles for your own survival (heal proc).

Any modifier on Hangar craft and Protomatter consoles need to be your damage type - so [Polaron] - as those mods don't have any effect whatsoever on your pets.

The most left ENG console is the M6 Computer, a universal console to be acquired from the in game ship vendor => "Temporal Escort" (FED ship); max. price 75k dilithium (cheaper, the better upgraded your fleet dilithium mine is).

One could also think of adding the SAFG (Shield absorptive Frequency generator) for your carrier survivability. Needs to be seen how happy you are with current state.

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The bridge:
Relies on The Boimler Effect and Unconventional Systems personal space traits, but since those two are key pieces to nearly every modern build currently, I'd highly recommend you getting both, with Boimler having a slightly higher priority, as it is a vital key part for your bridge cooldown.

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We got:

Commander TAC:
Kemocite - FaW - Torp Spread - AP: Beta

Kemocite is mroe of a filler/nice to have addon, but wit that many TAC slots, you gotta take something. Really shiines with the DMQT tho.
FaW as your main firing mode, "only" rank 2 as you don't aim to deal the most damage, just annoy enemies enough to focus you so your pets can do teir work.
Torp spread as your second integral part of Entwined Tactical Matrices; nice side effect: disables warp core breaches, so pets in the vicinity are less likeyl to explode
AP: Beta: highest rank you can get, since you need to do the debuff in your case.

Lt. Cmdr. Universal => SCI:
Jam Sensors - Photonic Officer - Gravity Well

Jam is an Uncon proc to shorten universal console cooldowns
PO1 is the counterpart to Boimler for your bridge cooldown. With those two, Chrono-Capacotor and Temporal Negotiator you should be well covered.
Gravity Well is crowd control and doubles as an Uncon proc

Lt. Cmdr. ENG/Command:
EPtE - EPtW - Supression Barrage

EPtE - basic mobility, part of the mobility triangle with one of the doffs and "Evasive Maneuvers"
EPtW - basic weapon buff
Supression Barrage - sadly only rank 1, as the ship doesn't have a full Command seating, but good enough enemy debuff ensuring better survivability

Lieutenant TAC/COmmand:
TacTeam - Overwhealm Emitters

I have to admit, I'm almost clueless what to take here. Too many TAC seats and Command doesn't offer all too much to fuill.
So feel free to experiment around a bit what suits you. TacTeam and OE seemed like decent fillers wit at least some use to me

Ensign SCI:
Tractor Beam => Uncon proc.

torn heron
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Well I’d like to keep my DHC and DBB because I like having mixed weapons and I don’t have any issues getting my weapons on point either so if I can do that I’d be happy

cloud bridge
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Keep in mind that mixing weapon types outside of Surgical Strike builds is not recommended, as it (severly) impacts combat performance, due to the need of additional firing modes that might steal the place of boff slots better used otherwise

torn heron
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Yea, but I mean I really only need two anyway and the build you’ve recommended has the two, I hardly ever run all three firing modes since ETM gives me the missing one

cloud bridge
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The one ETM gives only has a 50% uptime, so outside of the filler turret - since you cannot per game rules equip more than two omnis - you really shouldn't mix weapon types.

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One forward DBB is within limits, some would even take all DBBs + torp front.

torn heron
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Fair but I’m not looking to break records or do max possible dps I just wanna be able to hold my own in ETFO’s and not be a hindrance to my team

torn heron
cloud bridge
torn heron
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Ah, I thought it was like a website or something I could just put all the info in

cloud bridge
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Nah, seperate app. But one well maintained imho. It also has direct links to the wiki for extended information about what you put in there - just the wiki is experiencing some technical difficulties as a whole currently, but they are working on it.

torn heron
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Yea I know lol, I’m in the other sto server as well

vast patrol
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It's incredibly good, very worth the few minutes it takes to download and figure out

torn heron
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Ok so I have the hangar consoles but they aren’t poloran so I’ll have to blow through dil and salvage to re eng them

torn heron
languid silo
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what mod are they?

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and good luck re-rolling them

torn heron
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In no particular order: cannons,turn,shdhl,resall, torpedo

cloud bridge
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re-engineer the cannons and torpedo first, I'd say.

torn heron
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Man I can’t wait to get this thing all set up so I can test it out on a RETFO

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Also just curious as to why I’d want the elite versions over the normal or advanced?

cloud bridge
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For your pets?
Usually (with like a hand full exceptions) the elite versions are just better. Better firing modes and other abilities, better stats.

torn heron
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Well I’m doing a FAW build and the elites have CRF, won’t that interfere

cloud bridge
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That just means you might want to swap out SAD

torn heron
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I don’t even know what to swap it out with

torn heron
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Most recent update

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I’ve decided I’m going to replace the rightmost cannons with the lukari rep cannons and the set Omni with morphogenic weapon and the front torp with the Morph torp

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Also going to replace one of the tac consoles with the morph console

torn heron
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Just got the full morpho set

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I think I’m going to replace the DBB with the piezo bean instead of using the piezo cannons

torn heron
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New update

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I am only one elite mark away from getting the disco shield

torn heron
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@cloud bridge it’s not what you recommended initially but what do you think I should do from here?

cloud bridge
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Actually decide if you want to go beams or cannons. That mix will limit your combat effectiveness unless you opt for a specialist firing mode like Surgical Strikes

How does your current bridge look like?

torn heron
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I’m honestly thinking of going with cannons

torn heron
cloud bridge
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If you are going with cannons, swap Fire at Will and Attack Pattern: Beta and then replace FaW wit Cannon: Scatter Volley 3

torn heron
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Ok so it is slightly different I just got home to check

cloud bridge
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That is pretty fine already.
Give Dr. Crusher an Uncon proc if you have the trait

torn heron
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What’s the trait called again?

cloud bridge
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Unconventional Systems

torn heron
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I don’t have that on this toon

torn heron
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I did just get the lukari rep cannons so those are in place of that beam

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And just a normal polaron turret