sullen tartan
rules:
It is your turn to act
assume your opponent plays perfectly and knows all your cards
if you think you know the answer put a '/spoiler' tag to not spoil the puzzle
if you can't read the cards do you can look them up on the mindbug wiki https://mindbug.fandom.com/wiki/Mindbug_Wiki
rapid goblet
I didn't see any way to deal with both the sawn and the sharky...pus
there is always a bad tempo...
elder compass
I assume neither side has mindbugs left?
burnt abyss
|| earwig assassin to kill our cybor monkey? 🤔||
elder compass
|| earwig assassin to kill our cybor monkey? 🤔||
||they can attack with sawn then..||
rapid goblet
|| earwig assassin to kill our cybor monkey? 🤔||
I had the same idea 2 times 😅
sullen tartan
No mindbug unless stated
elder compass
You cannot activate an action if the condition is not fulfilled right?
oak hamlet
You cannot activate an action if the condition is not fulfilled right?
depends on the action, if there are words 'if you do' etc
actions of evolutions are OK
assassin's not
sullen tartan
@elder compass you can't activate an ability if it doesn't do anything
rapid goblet
I think I just explore all the possibility and I don't see anything that works...
elder compass
I start to believe OP had an oversight.. but I must be missing smth..
rapid goblet
||playing earwing assassin and kill the monkey lead to a fight against the sawn and we finally loose. killing one of his creature or the dragon inn allowed him to play westside monster wich kills us easly with is frenzy ability. same thing if we play assassin without activating its effect or if we play shinobi. if we attack with the dragon it lead to the same problem. so the only solution from this point is to hunt someone with the monkey but if we hunt the sawn he can just attack with his sharkypus wich we have to block and then we can't do anything against the westside monster. the only other possible issue we have is to hunt the sharkypus wich force him to attack with the sawn and them we can both play a card that kills us because of the westside monster and attack with the dragon inn. he have there to block and then to play is turbo bug wich force us to play one of our sneaky and then he can finish us with the westside monster...||
I don't know if I missed a possible play somewhere or if you did a mistake but if I'm wrong I would appreciate an hint...
bright obsidian
||playing earwing assassin and kill the monkey lead to a fight against the sawn ...
I did the same calculations, and I think it is something wrong with the puzzle
sullen tartan
@rapid goblet seems like you found all the options except one
elder compass
Concede button?
bright obsidian
@sullen tartan share the solution, please, I am teasing my brain for too long on this
rapid goblet
Concede button?
I doon't see anything else... I did all the possible play I can see again and I found exactly the same results... if anyone found a solution I'm really intrested to see what did I miss...
bright obsidian
Oh my God
I realized
||attack, kill his hunter, then he has to attack with his sawn, we block and kill our own assassin. He either attacks or plays a minion, it's gg anyways||
hushed hamlet
Westside is the big problem. If it gets played without the assassin to counter, Frenzy does us in. The Dragon Inn is our counter - they can’t play Westside while it’s alive. I think the answer is going to involve us getting a sneaky on the board as our 2nd card (with the inn) against their 2 cards, forcing them to play Westside as card 3.
fierce crater
||1.attack sharky with hunter.
2. Sawn attacks. Block with dragon inn.
3.Play earwig assassin, discard to defeat earwig assassin.
If sawn attacks again, we block with dragon inn, then we can attack (no defending creature).
If opp plays anything, we can use dragon inn action.||
fierce crater
||attack, kill his hunter, then he has to attack with his sawn, we block and kil...
Crap i got ninjaed due to better formatting 😄 wp
elder compass
Oh i wasn't aware of that interaction, clever
rapid goblet
||attack, kill his hunter, then he has to attack with his sawn, we block and kil...
yeah your right I had those ideas but I didn't succed to mix them well 😅
hushed hamlet
Wow. I didn’t realize that was an option, but of course it is!
rapid goblet
thanks guys I still have a lot to learn !!
hushed hamlet
Great job @bright obsidian and @fierce crater
And of course, props to @sullen tartan for another incredible puzzle!
bright obsidian
Sure, that one was amazing!
rapid goblet
Yeah !! I will probably try to do some too but @sullen tartan is surely an incredible maker !!
glad heron
@sullen tartan How do you go about creating these puzzles? Do you start with an interesting interaction that you want the 'solve' to be (e.g., ||have earwig defeat itself||) and work backwards from there? Or do you do something else? Very curious!
sullen tartan
@glad heron
||yes, in this case I started with sawn vs dragon inn because i noticed the interesting 'zugzwang' situation in a game, then I tried to think of a creative way to skip your turn, then I added the other cards to add 1 more step||
glad heron
||yes, in this case I started with sawn vs dragon inn because i noticed the inte...
Cool, thanks! Also, thanks for teaching me a new term haha
arctic pebble