#🏀irl-hoops-talk

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valid otter
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kobe at best is #10

pallid panther
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imagine if kareem didn't have to play all 4 years in college

amber swift
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Kobe’s to 6

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Top 6

pallid panther
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kareem is 7'2 clown

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sit

dreamy elbow
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let’s compare

pallid panther
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u literally made that up

amber swift
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Average was 6’10

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What u talkin bout

valid otter
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kobe was great but he not top 3 dawg

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or top 6

amber swift
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Top 5

dreamy elbow
valid otter
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or top 8

tough spire
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Delete this 🔥

amber swift
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Kobe’s top ten for@me

ancient oak
ancient oak
amber swift
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Same thing

valid otter
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kobe can hold a spot at #10 for me behind guys like bill russel, hakeem, mj, kareem lebron

pallid panther
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not everybody should be legally allowed to talk ball 🔥🔥🔥

tough spire
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Hakeem is better then shaq

pallid panther
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life in prison take 🔥🔥

valid otter
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u r smoking

dreamy elbow
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😬

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lemme do this again

amber swift
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These take are outrageous

tough spire
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Quit watching ball

pallid panther
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kareem gave wilt chamberlain crazy work when he got into the league

dreamy elbow
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Shaq might be the most dominant player ever

valid otter
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tell me u dont know basketball without telling me u dont know basketball

dreamy elbow
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but not better than kareem

pallid panther
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shaq's peak was higher but kareem sustained his peak for longer

amber swift
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I don’t see shaq

tough spire
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Clearly you dont

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💀

pallid panther
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realistically shaq's peak only lasted those 3 championships and he began to fade

ancient oak
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flawg thought he took that pic

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bro thinks hes apart of the team

tough spire
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Give me your top 5

dreamy elbow
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in 2004

pallid panther
amber swift
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I like Hakeem more but shaq might be better

valid otter
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1: Mj, 2: lebron, 3:kareem, 4: magic 5:shaq

dreamy elbow
pallid panther
ancient oak
tough spire
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Blud has hakeem over shaq Lmao

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Shaq over hakeem

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I mean

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👎

valid otter
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ok buddy

ancient oak
valid otter
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mj had higher career per

pallid panther
dreamy elbow
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no kareem??

tough spire
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This list should be Banable

dreamy elbow
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glazing to the max

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seven?????

amber swift
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Seven is crazy

dreamy elbow
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okay so a six time mvp is at seven

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but a one time mvp is at 3

ancient oak
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how old r u

dreamy elbow
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can’t lie, should be two though

valid otter
frosty venture
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4 lakers player is crazy

dreamy elbow
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nash should’ve had only one

valid otter
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key word is if

ancient oak
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@wild musk

amber swift
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Disrespect is crazy

pallid panther
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the difference between lebron and MJ is KD

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plus 5 scoring titles

dreamy elbow
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he had jerry west at one point

valid otter
amber swift
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Wilt jerry

dreamy elbow
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five

amber swift
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Ur arguing with the most outrageous takes

pallid panther
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he made them the 73-9 team dummy

valid otter
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cuz he spittin fax

pallid panther
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lil kids really pretend like lebron didn't join chris bosh and dwade to win 2 of his rings

dreamy elbow
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sorry

valid otter
pallid panther
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keep sucking im bouta bust

valid otter
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stop talking dawg nobody agrees with you

dreamy elbow
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you said kareem was seventh on your list

pallid panther
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steph curry > lebron

frosty venture
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@wild musk this lil bro put kareem as his 7th list lmfao

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4 lakers player on top out of kareem lmfao

valid otter
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u still the guy that kobe shaq hakeem and bill russel over kareem

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and wilt

dreamy elbow
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who is y’all???

pallid panther
dreamy elbow
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someone get their uncle 😐

valid otter
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all that money yet u still dont know the nba

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im off by 1 year, ur off by 5 players

pallid panther
dreamy elbow
pallid panther
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betheloser

dreamy elbow
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Kareem: 6 MVP Kobe: 1 MVP

pallid panther
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and who did it before him

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or who did it since

frosty venture
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this lil bro says everything that is uncle says @wild musk u

pallid panther
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gotta be easy right

valid otter
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bro what

pallid panther
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false

valid otter
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kateem invented the sky hook dummy

pallid panther
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kareem took a shot and made it his own

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hook shots have always been in the NBA

dreamy elbow
pallid panther
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kareem just made it unguardable

valid otter
pallid panther
pallid panther
valid otter
pallid panther
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kareem number 2 for me

dreamy elbow
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we literally gave you stats

valid otter
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2 second google search will tell you that kareem invented the skyhook cuz they banned dunking

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this man is delusional

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i gtg tho cya guys

dreamy elbow
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aight see ya

pallid panther
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yes u did

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italics won't make what u said true

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u deserve life in prison

dreamy elbow
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ok bud

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kobe < kareem

pallid panther
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lettem know

dreamy elbow
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6 - 1 = 5

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the glazing needs to stop

pallid panther
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u live in north carolina

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u possibly the furthest u could ever be away from ur team

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and u got kobe over kareem

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ur on fentanyl buddy

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imagine living in north carolina and glazing lebron and kobe like this

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what did i google and screenshot

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hop off buddy

knotty trout
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Hey y'all! sorry to interupt. Where do I report a cheater?

pallid panther
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where

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i post memes

dreamy elbow
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it’s past your bedtime

pallid panther
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thats a graphic not a screenshot

pallid panther
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i literally made that meme myself

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goofball

knotty trout
dreamy elbow
pallid panther
dreamy elbow
frosty venture
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in cancun

dreamy elbow
frosty venture
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in your dreams lil bro

pallid panther
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gotta be the saddest post ever in this chat

dreamy elbow
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i don’t care im posting shannon sharpe

pallid panther
ancient oak
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The goat💀🙏🏽

pallid panther
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all time hairline

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"one of the greatest coaches of all time"

dreamy elbow
frosty venture
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big ahh forehead

dreamy elbow
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his forehead got a gyat

pallid panther
dreamy elbow
frosty venture
dreamy elbow
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and we need younger players

frosty venture
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will ship you JP ^

dreamy elbow
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we can’t rely on all the undrafted players

frosty venture
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jimmy to GSW

dreamy elbow
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get rid of bam too

void dust
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XD

frosty venture
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damn getting rid of your whole team??

dreamy elbow
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we need ayton or myles turner

frosty venture
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just to be the number 1 seed in east

dreamy elbow
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also get rid of Kevin love

frosty venture
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kevin love should retire

dreamy elbow
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and get obi toppin

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we need looney, obi, d’angelo or poole, and maybe joe harris or keegan murray and we’re set

pallid panther
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get rid of kyle lowry

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force him to retire

dreamy elbow
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send him back to toronto on a one day veteran contract

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we need to draft a sleeper too

pallid panther
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call the Guangdong tigers for a jeremy lin trade

dreamy elbow
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we have the 18th pick

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we could get gg jackson or nick smith

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maybe Jordan Hawkins

pallid panther
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trade bam for the mavs 10th pick

dense kite
foggy pivot
dense kite
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Tyler herro game 7

foggy pivot
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Not a fan of any team WANTS Poole or Dlo 💀

dense kite
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Jimmy tonight

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Edrice adebayo tonight

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The heat in the paint

dreamy elbow
foggy pivot
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God help the Celtics if Herro and Himmy Buckets come back on Monday night

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regular season Jimmy showed up tonight

dense kite
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He said it’s his day off

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Kyle Lowry when he gets minutes

foggy pivot
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Also found out earlier that Bam and Horford are the same height

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Horford might look a whole foot shorter but he ain't

pallid panther
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huh

dreamy elbow
pallid panther
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it goes in tho

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time lord horford and bam all the samr height

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time lord got like a 7'6 wingspan that 2k never wants to give him in the game

dense kite
foggy pivot
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I can't escape it

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"blud"

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"blud" everywhere

pallid panther
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blud wafflin

dreamy elbow
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if they hadn’t subbed out robinson and not added 0.9 seconds on the clock, we would be in the finals rn

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crying rn

dense kite
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Jimmy keep’s guaranteeing a win for the 4th time is starting to sound like that one friend that borrowed money and saying he gonna pay you back

foggy pivot
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Realistically, Himmy came out and carried them for the first three games

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If they can't close it I'm not looking at Jimmy Butler first lol

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Wouldn't be here without Butler and definitely wouldn't be this far in this series without him

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They'd be at home, in fact, without him.

dreamy elbow
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we went from play in to wcf

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and up 3-0

dense kite
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Blud said it was his day off

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Kevin love told coach, I dont feel like playing today

dreamy elbow
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Blud said blow a 3-0 lead

foggy pivot
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Surely JT can't keep it up for a fourth game in a row and surely Butler and Adebayo will show back up

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wonder if Herro comes back fr

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as of four days ago he was cleared to work with his hand but they say it's unlikely he would come back even in a game 7 scenario in the ECF

static kelp
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What the fl

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Where was bam going

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Secure the paint, not someone behind the free throw line

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Wheres the box out

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...

pallid panther
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he only got bronze boxout beast

static kelp
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Fr

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No rebound chaser

pallid panther
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hof dummy badge

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miami heat should trade jimmy he's cursed ngl

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aint he like 35 at this point

static kelp
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:((

pallid panther
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trade duncan robinson waive thickums aka kyle lowry

foggy pivot
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Lowry probably retiring

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Isn't he like 38

pallid panther
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if he want to do the miami heat a favor he should

foggy pivot
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Yeah he's 37

pallid panther
static kelp
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Me rn

green vapor
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Heat better not choke

static kelp
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Fr i want nba 2k23 early access

wind light
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wrong channel

static kelp
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Wym?

wind light
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this is for real life NBA talk, not 2K

static kelp
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Oh

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Mb

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Wheres general chat?

wind light
vagrant kernel
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This is the irl chat no 2k talk here

fluid panther
peak zinc
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104-103

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🤬

queen sierra
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How to get on park meter on Layup

dapper berry
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Yo anyone tryna hop on some rec

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Pc

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🤷‍♂️

leaden belfry
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anyone wanna debate

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mj vs lebron

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i got lebron

dapper berry
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Both promise?

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Prime *

vagrant kernel
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@dapper berry @queen sierra this is itl no 2k no 2k talk here

dapper berry
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Shi my b

vagrant kernel
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Np it makes m3j mad tho

marsh flint
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boston wins game 7

vagrant tusk
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@peak zinc how yall that bad?

peak zinc
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I don't have clue

wind light
round fog
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why the heat getting cooked

pallid panther
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luka trippin with this cut

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im disgusted

round fog
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nahh

pallid panther
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my boy need a black barber cuz whoever cut him up is not lookin out for him lmao

vagrant kernel
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Im guessing its not finished and hes getting a fade if not then damn

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Also i love how bros just sat playing chess

pallid panther
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thats how u cut a fade now? he cut him bald on the bottom

vagrant kernel
pallid panther
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real

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it look like he gettin cut in an amazon warehouse

wind light
vagrant kernel
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Just a cave

sharp slateBOT
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Nuggets center Nikola Jokić is averaging 29.9 points, 13.3 rebounds and 10.3 assists in the 2023 NBA Playoffs.

He is the third player to enter the #NBAFinals averaging a triple-double in a single postseason, joining Wilt Chamberlain (1967) and Magic Johnson (1982).

round fog
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miami can win the next game i think

tidal shard
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ja

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ya

round fog
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ja needa chill out

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as a memphis fan

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hes going to ruin our dam team if he keeps getting suspended

tidal shard
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ik

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hes so talented

wind light
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Plus, Ja has a good future, he needs to start being more responsible

round fog
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ik he has the potential to be a great

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hes only 23

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and doing this type of stuff

tidal shard
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ye

round fog
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him and mikey williams going to be taking over prision in jail if he dont quit

tidal shard
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ik

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crazy world

round fog
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ong

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hes the next DRose

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and he keeps showing guns

tidal shard
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ik 😭

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wanna play some 2k?

round fog
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yeah sure

tidal shard
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im kinda bad tho

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i only ahve 40 hours

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whyats ur steam friendcode

wind light
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I hope you guys lose badly for talking 2K int he wrong channel

tidal shard
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what channel then

vagrant kernel
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Guys this is the irl channel no 2k talk

tidal shard
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i joined the server 10 mins ago

vagrant kernel
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Literally any other

willow vessel
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Any point guards in here

vagrant kernel
round fog
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hol up friend me so i can send you my friend code

tidal shard
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alr ty

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sorry

willow vessel
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Any PGs in here

vagrant kernel
wind light
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not good vibes

willow vessel
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Irl I mean

wind light
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Not I. I was PF

pallid panther
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i played point guard

willow vessel
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How tall?

pallid panther
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im 6'3

willow vessel
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Dang

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I'm undersized

pallid panther
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depends on what level u playing at

willow vessel
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I'm only 5'6

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Averaged 13 assist and 6 steals this year

pallid panther
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muggsy bogues

willow vessel
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Cause I'm so close to the floor it's easy to get steals lol

pallid panther
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u can be short u just gotta play harder than everyone else

willow vessel
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I have a good vertical

atomic swan
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I be hustling on defense in a pick up game like my life depends on it

willow vessel
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Yeah if not anything else I can play defense

atomic swan
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Can never go wrong with good defense

willow vessel
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My vertical leap helps with that alot cause most ppl don't expect my short self to jump so high

pallid panther
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spud webb was 5'6

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is

willow vessel
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I can almost grab the hoop I'm working toward that

pallid panther
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dominique wilkins said he didn't even know he could dunk like he did before the dunk contest

willow vessel
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Unfortunately I'm 17 and already finished growing

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I doubt my easy defense and passing will be enough for me in college

pallid panther
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u never know

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there have been guys that have gotten taller while being in the nba

atomic swan
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Yeah bro

pallid panther
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brad stevens said that tatum got taller

atomic swan
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Men don’t stop growing fully until 25

willow vessel
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My mom is 5'1 and my dad is 5'6 trust me I'm completely finished lol

pallid panther
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welp

willow vessel
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But I won't stop working toward D3, or D2

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Just gotta stop forgetting to stretch

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Caught a calf cramp one too many time during games

pallid panther
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not hydrated enough

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if u thirsty u already dehydrated

willow vessel
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Nah I drink a shiton of water

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Well, probably not

pallid panther
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yea ask ur coach he'll probably say the same thing

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need to keep chuggin even if u not thirsty

willow vessel
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I still don't know what a 3 man weave is

tiny pasture
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ngl to get tall

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get tall is what u have to do

willow vessel
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all I gotta do to understand a 3 man weave is get tall

tiny pasture
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exactl

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y

pallid panther
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ion even know fr my team was always tall

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we won 2 state championships back to back

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i aint gon say the school ima expose myself

willow vessel
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We won last year but I was the 7th man

pallid panther
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thats not bad

willow vessel
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Zaire P. (2021-2022)

6.8 PTS
2.1 AST
0.2 REB
1.2 STL
51.3% FG
32.3% 3PT
98% FT

(2022-2023)

8.8 PTS
12.7 AST
1.1 REB
6.2 STL
62.4% FG
47.3% 3PT
92% FT

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as you can see I'm not much of a scorer

pallid panther
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well u also the height of an average mexican man

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looks good to me

willow vessel
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I could probably score more if I didn't play like a 7 foot post scorer lol

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I play like Jalen brunson

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I be scared to shoot

pallid panther
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sorry bulls fans

wind light
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master the art of floaters and being a midget won' thurt you much

deft cobalt
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No way Boston bout to come back 3-0 in the conference finals

pallid panther
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we witnessing history

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if they do it'll be the first time that's ever happened in NBA history

deft cobalt
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If they do I’ll eat a shoe

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I’ve been wanting the heat to go to the finals

vernal saffron
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i want heat to get the championship

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jimmy deserve a ring

pallid panther
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no he don't

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they'll never beat the nuggets

wind light
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I hate to say it but I agree

vernal saffron
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can jokic guard bam

pallid panther
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it dont matter bruh

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jokic is getting a 30 point triple double every night on them guys

vernal saffron
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no way to MPJ guard Jimmy

pallid panther
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aaron gordon is jimmy's matchup

vernal saffron
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issnt jimmy sf and aaron gordon pf

pallid panther
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no

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MPJ plays PF

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he's 6'10

vernal saffron
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but aaron gordon primary position is pf too

pallid panther
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nuggets are versatile they can play 5 out

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nah

deft cobalt
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I’m being honest playoff jimmy isn’t clutch

vernal saffron
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idk i just want heat to take the chip

pallid panther
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nuggets in 4 if the heat make it to the finals

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nuggets are cooking them worse than the lakers im afraid

willow vessel
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did you say please.

vernal saffron
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bro we saw it, if everybody knew he would tell you

pallid panther
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derrick white is now in the goat debate

peak zinc
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Lemme loom up his stats rq

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Oh wait, he will NEVER be called the Goat

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not unless he drastically improves over the next couple of games

peak zinc
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GOOD

wind light
pallid panther
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raptors had 2 guys that were top 5 in deflections

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vanvleet and anunoby

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maybe if the heat had them guys they'd have a better chance

cyan sonnet
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Raptors are boring

pallid panther
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they cant score

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raptors coulda made the playoffs tho if the brooklyn nets didn't steal a spot they shoulda never been in the playoffs anyway

vagrant kernel
cunning knot
cold shuttle
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morant is better then lebron james all time 🕰️

willow vessel
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He's def a better shooter

valid otter
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who is more underrated: demar derozan or jaylen brown?

willow vessel
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More underrated probably derozan

valid otter
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i think so too

wind light
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DeMar

valid otter
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Is jaylen brown the best sg in the leauge or is it somebody like devin booker, zach lavine, etc

wind light
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No

valid otter
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then who

wind light
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Devin carried his team on his back more than Jaylen

valid otter
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true

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you mean carugoat

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fax

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carugoat>mj

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is trae young rlly overated? bc avg 27 ppg and 10 apg but not being an allstar is crazy

pallid panther
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devin booker underrated

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i been defending book all year

wind light
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underrated? kek

pallid panther
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bruh ive seen devin booker make some of the toughest shots ive ever seen in my life look easy

wind light
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so did Luka

pallid panther
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?

valid otter
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i watched the game where luka dropped 60-20-10 and it was ridiculous

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on tv of course

pallid panther
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it was 60-21-10 on 63% shooting

valid otter
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craziest thing i have ever seen

pallid panther
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i remember

valid otter
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and the last minute floater off the orb

pallid panther
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against the knicks

valid otter
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yeah

pallid panther
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it was right after xmas

valid otter
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yeah

pallid panther
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gave them boys a xmas gift

valid otter
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f

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fr

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the day before i watched darius garland drop 50 against the nets or something

pallid panther
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cavs gotta be playing a team i like

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i hate the cavs

valid otter
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i dont like the cavs thst much either but they were stacked this year, they were wayy iver salary cap tho and had zero depth

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thats why the knicks killed em

pallid panther
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knicks killed them cuz they couldn't rebound

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and the knicks are trash they got julius randle

valid otter
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jarret allen looks like hes blasian

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but hes just black

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its kinda funny

fathom matrix
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yknow how sometimes what a player really needs is to talk to a vet at their position even if they aren't on the same team?

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to get some wisdom from a guy who's been through the same stuff?

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I think Ja gotta go get some words of wisdom from Dame

devout widget
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whos the GOAT

fathom matrix
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2 reasons, 1. Dame is just one of the best to do it

cunning fulcrum
fathom matrix
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  1. he's actually from the hood but is always quiet and hard working
devout widget
cunning fulcrum
devout widget
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no acctually mj or bron

cunning fulcrum
devout widget
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ok

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this my top 3

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kobe 1 mj 2 and bron 3

wind light
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Kobe's not even my top 10

vagrant tusk
wind light
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my a clown? What

cunning fulcrum
devout widget
vagrant tusk
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Because kobe almost and prob is top 5

devout widget
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if you sayd timmy d or someone else is better than him then youre trippin

wind light
vagrant tusk
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What so good about Tim compare to kobe

devout widget
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yes please explain

wind light
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you're the one who brought him up, I'm just saying Kobe's overrated even though he was a great player.

fathom matrix
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Kobe is my 4

devout widget
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i dont even know what to say

fathom matrix
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i would tell you my 3

cunning fulcrum
# wind light So?

LeBron needed wade, bosh, Allen, Kyrie, and AD to win a chip
MJ needed pippen, Kerr, and Rodman
Kobe needed shaq

fathom matrix
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but youd all laugh at me

vagrant tusk
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Kobe is top 10 easily

cyan sonnet
fathom matrix
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3rd all time is Olajuwon

cunning fulcrum
devout widget
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okay pick hes my number 12 or 13

cyan sonnet
vagrant tusk
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vagrant tusk
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cunning fulcrum
static kelp
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hello, I'm playing NBA2k23 on my computer, how should I get to the big city or pass the tutorial

vagrant kernel
cunning fulcrum
vagrant tusk
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what

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Who said anything about LeBron being 1

fathom matrix
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my mans won a chip w these bozos 💀

devout widget
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good point

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then at #2?

fathom matrix
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the only guy who played more then 1500 minutes and scored more then 20 points per game on the rockets champion 94-95 roster

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was Hakeem

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I dont even have to bring up the whole "Had his quadruple double taken away so he went and got another to become the only quad double ever" thing really to make my case for him being top 3

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but it helps

devout widget
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whos number 2

vagrant tusk
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MJ
Lebron
Kobe
Kareem
Shaq
Tim
Hakeem
Magic
Bird
Curry
in that order that the top 10 best players

fathom matrix
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Duncan over Hakeem?

devout widget
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this mine

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kobe

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mj

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lebron

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kareem

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curry

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shaq

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magic

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bird

wind light
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fathom matrix
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yeah and Hakeem is the best center ever

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bill russel

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wilt

vagrant tusk
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No it kareem

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Kareem is the best center ever

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and shaq better then hakeem

fathom matrix
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damn i didnt know shaq and kareem had more blocks then kareem

vagrant tusk
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and pulling wilt on your list is a sin

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how many rings yall think KD wins if he stayed with OKC

fathom matrix
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and Hakeem had nearly twice the steals of Kareem

fathom matrix
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Poverty Franchise

vagrant tusk
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Nah

fathom matrix
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dont get me wrong

vagrant tusk
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Him and Russ are better then Curry and Klay

fathom matrix
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dont get it twisted

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this isnt a KD needed Curry narrative

wind light
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Kareem and Shaq having more blocks than Kareem makes sense tbh

fathom matrix
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this is a the thunder were awful narrative

vagrant tusk
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yes Kareem had more blocks then Kareem

wind light
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my mind is blown

fathom matrix
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bro ok

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they have

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similar names

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and i type fast

vagrant tusk
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we still don't know which has more blocks tho

fathom matrix
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Hakeem is the leading center in all time blocks and all time steals

wind light
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Kareem and Shaq have more blocks than Kareem

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learn to read you silly goose

fathom matrix
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as far as we know

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its certainly possible that say Wilt had the most blocks

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but they werent recorded so

wind light
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When did MJ miss the playoffs btw?

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Or LeBron, not counting the Heat or Lakers?

vagrant tusk
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we not counting how shaq has more rebounds points and assist then Hakeem

fathom matrix
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LeBron never missed the playoffs if you ignore all the times that he missed the playoffs

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is truly a shocking take

vagrant tusk
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and when they played Shaq out played Hakeem

fathom matrix
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did you know that Jalen Green has never missed the NBA Playoffs if you take out his time with the rockets?

fathom matrix
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ftfy

wind light
fathom matrix
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the 94-95 rockets were a pretty bad basketball team outside Hakeem

vagrant tusk
fathom matrix
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you mean

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defend?

wind light
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and pump fake

fathom matrix
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like

lusty echo
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Is this for like irl basketball?

wind light
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yes

fathom matrix
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that main thing

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that centers do?

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defend people?

lusty echo
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Like not nba like us playing?

wind light
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dang, Kross getting pwned

wind light
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it is for stuff liek NCAA, you wanting to learn how to dunk, NBA, Jordan Kilganon, etc

vagrant tusk
lusty echo
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Aight so I been playing ball for a minute and I’m learn how to expand my game

wind light
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What I"m wondering is, did MJ start missing playoffs after he was old?

vagrant tusk
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The main thing for a center to do is the catch the ball after someone misses

lusty echo
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Practice don’t feel like it’s working anymore like everything feels easy in practice now but in game it’s way harder

fathom matrix
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you dont need to play as good an offensive game if you're getting over 2,000 blocks and 2,000 steals

vagrant tusk
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How do you get out performed in all 20 games they played?

vagrant tusk
wind light
vagrant tusk
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Jordan never missed a playoffs with the bulls

fathom matrix
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But with the Wizards he missed 2

fathom matrix
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like thats the thing centers do

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so if youre best at rebounding

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youre the best center

vagrant tusk
fathom matrix
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so the best center of all time

vagrant tusk
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Rebounds win a game

fathom matrix
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is Wilt

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who got left off your list entirely

vagrant tusk
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Because there nothing about wilt

wind light
fathom matrix
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who got 6.5k more then KAJ

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Bill Russell is 2nd place and he didnt even get a mention either

vagrant tusk
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Both played during a time where no one recorded anything

tranquil palm
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what will happen if imake build no 3p shot??

fathom matrix
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ok ok i see that

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so

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How many times do I have to tell you that

fathom matrix
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lets say

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You don't listen to anything

fathom matrix
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a player where everything was recorded

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who had more rebounds then hakeem

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is a better center then hakeem

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by your own admission

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correct

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if we have proof that these feats happened.

vagrant tusk
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so by your admission someone who has more blocks and steals then Hakeem is better?

fathom matrix
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at forcing turnovers yes

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since thats how you force turnovers

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Hakeem Olajuwon is the greatest center at forcing turnovers of all time

vagrant tusk
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so Derek Harper better then Kobe?

fathom matrix
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all around ofc not

vagrant tusk
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because Harper got more steals then Kobe

fathom matrix
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unlike you I never made the unilateral claim that this one statistic defines a players worth at their position

vagrant tusk
fathom matrix
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I simply said that being the best at forcing turnovers

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adds alot of weight

vagrant tusk
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Like I said Hakeem is 7 on my list for a reason

fathom matrix
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which shaq consistently had

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and Hakeem consistently lacked

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Shaq for a huge span of time was in the whole 1a 1b w Kobe, while for Hakeem he was getting triple teamed since his team lacked even a 2nd option after him

vagrant tusk
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if there no options on your team beside you means your suppose to be the option your supposed to have the ball and score

fathom matrix
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and he did

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quite a bit

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a pretty big amount

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but you said that

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never stopped LeBron from being number 1 in points

fathom matrix
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the most important thing

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for a center

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is rebounds

fathom matrix
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at the expense of all else

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behold, a superior center to Hakeem

vagrant tusk
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Rebounds is the most important thing for a center

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you do realize the more teams that get the most rebounds win right?

fathom matrix
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you do realize by your own definition

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Dwight Howard > Hakeem Olajuwon

vagrant tusk
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How because he did the most important thing for a center to do

fathom matrix
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you do realize that the one NBA Player shaq admitted he basically could never beat

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was Hakeem Olajuwon

vagrant tusk
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You so stupid if you don't realize the most important part of a Center is to Rebound

fathom matrix
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you so stupid if you don't realize that centers do other things then rebound

vagrant tusk
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WHAT bro has a 17-11 record vs Hakeem

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14-6 in regular season

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14 times shaq has beat Hakeem

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in that time he had more points rebounds assist blocks

fathom matrix
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"Hakeem Olajuwon. Most guys are tri-dimensional—one move, two, maybe three. Hakeem had seven moves on each block, so he was hard to stop"

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so what youre saying is that

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when it counts most

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Hakeem was 5-3 vs shaq

vagrant tusk
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out rebound him in in 20 games that they played

fathom matrix
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"It was out of control. I thought we were gonna win it then; he just turned that switch on. And I couldn't get him to turn it off"

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wind light
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NBA nerd fight!

vagrant tusk
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Hakeem is 5-3 in playoffs

fathom matrix
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which center would you rather have more

vagrant tusk
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Ovr it 17-11

fathom matrix
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2ppg 14 rpg 0apg or 25ppg 9rpg 12apg

vagrant tusk
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Shaq

fathom matrix
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since rebounds are all that count doesnt matter if you cant score or pass right

vagrant tusk
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and you can't even use that for a compares because Shaq out points assist and rebound hakeem

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lol

fathom matrix
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who was the best center this season

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pound for pound

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who was the best center

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Joker

fathom matrix
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in the 2022-2023 nba season

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I agree!

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but according to your own rules

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you're wrong

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Sabonis outrebounded Joker

vagrant tusk
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I said the most IMPORTANT not the only thing

fathom matrix
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yeah

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but its not like Sabonis was a slouch

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7.3 assists per game and 19 points per game

violet nebula
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Saboner you mean

fathom matrix
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and like you said

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rebounds win games

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so shouldnt you pick the guy who led the league in rebounds?

vagrant tusk
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No you should go with the guy who has more points assist duh

wind light
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weird logic

violet nebula
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fathom matrix
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friendly grammar tip: when using a 's to indicate possession of a person whos name already ends in an s, you can drop the second s (Sabonis', Harris')

vagrant tusk
fathom matrix
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he mad because he cant acknowledge Hakeem supremacy

wind light
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you both mad because you don't agree

vagrant tusk
fathom matrix
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also

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Shaq is an accumulator

wind light
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A center who contributes the most to his team's win is the center you need, regardless of rebounds, points, and whatnot

fathom matrix
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in terms of rebounds

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in rebounds per game

vagrant tusk
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Im done arguing with your stupidity

fathom matrix
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Hakeem wins out by .2

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its easy to win counting stat battles when you play 20 years man

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and I have an idea to cut the cake and acknowledge that multiple things are important for a center

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RPG+BPG

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the total sum of a centers defensive value really

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how often a center collects missed shots and how often a center prevents a shot from going off

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shaq comes in averaging 13.6 a season across his career

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olajuwon? 14.2

wind light
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there are different kinds of centers though.

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neither of you are wrong nor right, it's subjective

fathom matrix
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yeah but we are comparing 2 guys who had pretty similar games

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your generic 90s center if you will

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huge guy who feasts on the inside and is a defensive nightmare

wind light
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I dunno how Hakeem played

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But the Dream Shake was a danger it seems

fathom matrix
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Hakeem was a huge rangy center who attacked and defended harshly inside

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he just had a huge array of moves and blocks at his disposal that he would use to finish or defend in seemingly any situation

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and he shot 20% more effectively from the line then shaq

wind light
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Shaq was definitely amazing toot hough

fathom matrix
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oh absolutely

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you have to be to play 20 years

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there arent any bad, mid or even just good players who play that long

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the thing that separates people is sample size, its why the NFL has so many more pretenders in the post season and why there are so many more playoff upsets over there

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theres fewer games in general

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Nuggets guard Jamal Murray has scored at least 20 points in the fourth quarter of a playoff game four times in his career.

In the last 25 years, the only other player with multiple 20-point fourth quarters in the playoffs is Allen Iverson (two).

sand minnow
fathom matrix
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looking at it he has a Torn Meniscus that he has had 2 surgeries on now and has missed 3 szns for

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and doctors are baffled and are thinking this is something new because it just wont heal

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i feel bad for him

fathom matrix
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unrelated but there is something im wondering here

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what on gods green earth happened to Jabari Smith

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did my man forget how to play basketball after getting picked 3rd overall/

pallid panther
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hes not bad

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their coaching sucks

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hes okay

pallid panther
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u talking about jonny davis

fathom matrix
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but even on his own merits he didnt look good

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he looked like a fish out of water

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which yeah helping guys transition to that next level of play and that competition is a big job of the coach

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idk

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Ime Udoka did a great job developing his forwards in Boston

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just hoping we can see some of that w Tari Eason and Jabari Smith'

vagrant tusk
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Meniscus injury keep happening a lot

fathom matrix
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and what goes up, must come down, and thats generally not so great for your knees

vagrant tusk
fathom matrix
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in 2011, while Kobe Bryant was STILL PLAYING, his cartilage and meniscus damage was so bad that he was about a few millimeters from bone touching bone

fathom matrix
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knee injuries beget knee injuries beget knee injuries

vagrant tusk
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like my brother plays football and he just had his second Surgery for his meniscus

fathom matrix
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the meniscus is a huge chunk of cartilage keeping the bones in your knee from touching

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and its hard to tear but once you do

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it never grows back properly

vagrant tusk
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yea

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ik everyone in my family had torn theres

fathom matrix
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due to suffering a torn meniscus in college

vagrant tusk
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dang

fathom matrix
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its a whole Thing

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you arent supposed to run or jump until 3 months after surgery to repair one

vagrant tusk
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yea seems like it sucks to get one

fathom matrix
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some more medical sports vocab for you not on the chart is

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your Patella (kneecap) is on top of the articular cartilage, and connecting the Patella and Tibia in your upper shin is the Patellar Tendon

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which you also hear alot of injuries about

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that ones particularly nasty because its huge and is what holds your leg together really

vagrant tusk
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Crazy how that small of a tear can have much pain in it

fathom matrix
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the ACL PCL MCL AND LCL are more common tears then the Patellar Tendon

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but they heal quicker because youve got 4 of these ligaments

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and generally speaking you can start walking on your own weight pretty shortly after because of that fact

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and rehab can begin shortly after that

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but the Meniscus and Patellar Tendon?

vagrant tusk
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I thought ACL takes a year off tho

fathom matrix
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you're basically screwed for 3 months

fathom matrix
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but generally you want to give it time

vagrant tusk
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oh

fathom matrix
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because funny thing about the ACL and PCL

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because of positioning the ACL is torn more often, but both of them are quite small, so if its not fully healed, it will get torn again, even if it is fully healed, you might get another tear

vagrant tusk
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oh

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I never heard of a LCL

stoic trout
fathom matrix
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you really cant rule anything out

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you obviously hope he's fully ready to go but you never want to rush these sorts of things

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if im the C's id rather play without then play with an injured one who will likely get reinjured and miss even more time

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then again I do want the C's to lose because I'm a houstoner who lives in mass and the Celtics faithful are absolutely insufferable

silk cave
vagrant kernel
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It all depends on the person coz everyone heals differently but generally its between 8 months and a year

low grail
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Guys Opinion on Euroleague

foggy pivot
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Must be a pretty ridiculous program since they breed some of the top talent

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Will never watch it, but it's cool

foggy pivot
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Jokic is from Euroleague

low grail
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Yes

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Also jokic>Embid

foggy pivot
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Yeah idk what you mean by asking what I mean 🤣

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It's a good program because they breed some of the best players

low grail
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Who do u think will win ?butler or Tatum in the eastern conference

low grail
foggy pivot
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I think the only winner in the outcome of the ECF is Denver

low grail
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Indeed

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Are u excited for the world cup

foggy pivot
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soccer is trash

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will never watch again after the last World Cup

low grail
foggy pivot
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Didn't even know that was a thing

low grail
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It is ☠️

foggy pivot
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I'm mentally scarred from watching that godforsaken soccer

fathom matrix
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ive got a take

low grail
fathom matrix
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Russell Westbrook is the last of a generation

low grail
fathom matrix
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that generation being guards who can get away with being poor 3pt shooters

foggy pivot
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as far as basketball, will stick to USA only. I think it's great that we get some of these insane players from other countries. Do I want to watch these players play with their native teams? Not at all.

fathom matrix
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the young up and coming guards being criticized for poor 3pt shooting shoot better then him

foggy pivot
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Russ was also just a god

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People like to forget that he was a god and remember him for the Clippers

low grail
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@foggy pivot

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Are u in a team

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Or you just like hooping

foggy pivot
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neither

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I'm 25 going on 26 and I played ball with some of my buddies yesterday and feel like I got hit by a small car.

low grail
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Bruh

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Can u dunk

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Or nah

foggy pivot
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nah I'm only 6'

low grail
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Bro my teammates today were awful in the first quarter

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They were wanna be Steph curry

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I hate those guys

low grail
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I need to boost my vertical jump

vagrant tusk
foggy pivot
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#BullsRe-signPatBev

wind light
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Pat Bev needs to up his ability to annoy

foggy pivot
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Is there anyone remaining who believes that anyone has a chance to win the Finals other than Denver

vagrant kernel
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Surely not coz whoever makes it through is gonna be exhausted

wind light
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great guy for sure, started a school for disadvantaged kids

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Kareem, Bill Russell, Wilt

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..

low grail
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I see no goat in this

fathom matrix
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homie

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you do see how thats better right

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"you helped change the very social situation of the nation you lived in, helping millions of people get a fair shot in life? oh yeah well i built a school, so im clearly a better person then you by far."

pallid panther
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speaking truth only the goat could speak

fathom matrix
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idk man

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refusing to play in the olympics and writing whole blown essays about college players not getting paid

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and being a best selling author talking about religion and civil rights

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is a bit different then just walking down a street with a sign

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educate yourself

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KAJ is a best selling author and columnist for several magazines and newspapers, that should speak to the impact of his activism

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you don't have to be a civil rights activist, because KAJ already was

pallid panther
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kareem > LeChina

fathom matrix
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not on his own no

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but if everyone with any amount of influence didnt care

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we'd be in a worse situation

pallid panther
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lebron uses his power to control media narratives

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kareem > LeSweatshop

fathom matrix
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lebron uses his power to shill for china

pallid panther
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lettem know

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LeCommunism

fathom matrix
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my goat Olajuwon would never

pallid panther
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bill russell, muhammad ali, jim brown, and kareem

fathom matrix
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Bill Russell was so active in civil rights

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that Boston fans who cheered for him on the court would go and throw bricks at his house later

pallid panther
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and there were a number of teams that didn't want black people on the team

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like the st louis hawks that traded him

vagrant tusk
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we been knew this

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you don't want to be a MJ when it comes to being a parent

peak zinc
wind light
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yeesh, y'all weird

pallid panther
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weird flex but okay

pallid panther
pallid panther
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crazy how children who dont have children be worrying about parenting

vagrant tusk
vagrant tusk
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one of these kids grew up without a dad

pallid panther
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bruh his son aint jimmy butler

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stop drinking the kool aid

vagrant tusk
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he son is still out there even tho his prob in his 20s to 30s

pallid panther
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u made that up buddy

wind light
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explain

pallid panther
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he still plays basketball better

fathom matrix
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on one hand this is like 100% not the case, we all know instinctually that Butler isnt MJs son

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BUT itd be really funny and the fact that the timeline matches up that perfectly makes it even funnier

fathom matrix
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not a giant LeBron fan but he is a good dad from what we see

wind light
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I don't think MJ's gambling addiction was bad

fathom matrix
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with MJ? you can't say the same thing

pallid panther
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i literally couldn't care less

wind light
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from what I've seen, MJ loves his kids

fathom matrix
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thats the bulk of the Jimmy Butler being MJs bastard theory as well, but taking that theory out, he still did those things

fathom matrix
wind light
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I didn't know any of that. not surprised he cheated though

fathom matrix
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thats not particularly shocking yeah

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yknow what i love to see though?

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Jimmy Butler breaking the cycle

vagrant tusk
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and him being a alcoholic

fathom matrix
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his dad left him when he was young and his mom kicked him out at 13, Butler isn't married but he has a daughter with his girlfriend who he took the birth of so seriously he missed 3 playoff games on paternity leave

fathom matrix
vagrant tusk
# wind light no

we forgetting he left one of his sons for being for a marriage

vagrant tusk
wind light
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I'm talking about the drug that he accused his teammates of doing back when he was a rookie

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coke

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oh that one's not censored

fathom matrix
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fr

wind light
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it's crazy how MJ got mad at Horace for telling Sam Smith everything but he snitche dno his own teammates

fathom matrix
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once again

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Hakeem would never

vagrant tusk
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W Jordan

fathom matrix
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ppl keep saying that the rockets lucked out for 2 years never having to face MJ when they won back to back chips

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I say Jordan was lucky to never face off against a prime dream shake

cyan sonnet
vagrant tusk
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oh that why they was defending Hakeem with there life earlier

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Maybe there Hakeem burner

fathom matrix
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Grizz should go out and sign Kyrie

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not to compete

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so that i can grab my popcorn

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and watch all the drama

vagrant tusk
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didn't yall not even make the playoffs this year?

wind light
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Michael Jordan had a record of 10-13 versus Hakeem Olajuwon in his career.

vagrant tusk
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Bro the one thing yall was hoping to win yall didn't even win that

fathom matrix
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Stephen Silas is a fraud

pallid panther
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hakeem had ralph sampson early in his career

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and hakeem played PF

fathom matrix
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I was saying it in 2019

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and it took the FO this long to finally ditch him

vagrant tusk
fathom matrix
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now that we have a real coach to develop our young core

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we can do it

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wanna hear my epic theory

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about LeBrons future?

pallid panther
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shaq said it himself