Basic Pycord Help

[ionic wasp]

wym

[silk spire]

User apps are simply for sending interaction responses, and their ephemeral state depends on where you use them and the permissions.

What you want is to run a bot on an account and receive all events, etc.[Those things that are against the ToS](<https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002192352-Automated-user-accounts-self-bots-)

[echo wraith]

Not necessarily

Bots are user installable now

[ionic wasp]

yes im aware that self botting is against tos, im not doing any of it.
i just asked if i could receive an event if a bot message in a dm channel or similar was deleted by the person that used the command

[echo wraith]

I'm pretty sure they can't delete the bots message but might be wrong

They can delete their own messages

[ionic wasp]

They can

thats in a dm

[echo wraith]

Yes they can when it's an interaction reply

[ionic wasp]

Yes

and can i get an event upon that deletion?

[silk spire]

Yes, but that doesn't mean they have the full functionality of a "normal" bot

[echo wraith]

I don't remember if message delete is sent out dm channel, you can try that but I'm pretty sure it may not be sent.

[echo wraith]

#1130595287078015027 message

For reference

[ionic wasp]

okay okay

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.on_message_delete
discord.on_raw_message_delete
discord.on_bulk_message_delete
discord.on_raw_bulk_message_delete

[echo wraith]

Try also the raw one maybe

[ionic wasp]

thanks

[silk spire]

Receiving events by just having users install your app is weird and privacy invasing

Like think about it.. you install a bot to your profile and it can suddenly read your dms etc

[echo wraith]

The dms with the bot, but all of them

[silk spire]

That's not what they're saying tho

They specifically said userapps#1132206148309749830 message

[echo wraith]

Yeah but it's already something

[silk spire]

[ionic wasp]

Where does this imply that the userapp can read your dms?

If the bot has an event if a command was ran, it should have an event if the message of that command was deleted

[silk spire]

Receiving events = on_message, on_message_delete = events

Why would it? What's so special about deleting the command response

That would make it possible for the dev to get the message content from a PRIVATE message

[ionic wasp]

Yea but the bot sent the message in the first place so i dont really know where you get private from here

[silk spire]

Doesn't matter. It was sent in a private conversation.

[ionic wasp]

mb then

[echo wraith]

@ionic wasp would you mind sharing more about your use case ? Maybe we can find an alternative solution

[ionic wasp]

i have a few games with the limitation of 1 active game per user, the game stops being marked as active if it ends or the view times out, id like it to also stop marking it as active if the message was deleted

[silk spire]

okay, that's actually a good usecase

[echo wraith]

Hmm. I wonder if you can fetch a message the bot sent, even if it's in a dm

[silk spire]

Is it possible to use a smaller timeout? The timeout resets on interaction ofc, so it would be easier to detect inactivity maybe?

[echo wraith]

That way when a user creates a new game you can check if the user deleted the message. Only problem would be it could start making lots of requests to the api

[ionic wasp]

Even with that you would still have to painfully wait around for it to timeout if the message was deleted

And gets annoying if the opposing player doesnt instantly respond to it, or vice versa

[silk spire]

Ah true

[ionic wasp]

Yea i generally want to avoid doing many requests, thats why i asked for a event

[echo wraith]

Another option could be to tell the user that they already have a game ongoing, and send the info again. And or have a command/button to end the game.

[ionic wasp]

True i could add a button to the "you already have an active game" message that ends the previous game

[silk spire]

It not be possible to resend the ongoing game?

Or I guess the user could just delete that again and again lol

[ionic wasp]

Thats also possible, but that would require a ton more internal code and changes

thanks regardless, ill find a good solution

[silk spire]

Ah

[high spire]

turned out to be an issue with mongodb

for some reason my userid stored as a collection in mongo keeps on rounding

maybe its cuz when I open it in vscode it converts to json?

[echo wraith]

Is it maybe because of 32 vs 64 bit ?

Yeah

[echo wraith]

Make sure the data type is a Long https://www.mongodb.com/docs/mongodb-shell/reference/data-types/

Discord snowflakes are 64 bit integers

[sage tendon]

you can also just store it as string

[high spire]

I think that's it I'll test it out

does json require this as well, or is it to do with the fact it's stored as a bson?

[silk spire]

Json rounds too when stored as int iirc

[echo wraith]

yes

[deft hull]

Is it possible to add a persistent view with parameters

[sage tendon]

only if you save those to a db

[lapis dock]

You get to initialize the view when you add it with add_view()
So you can accept custom args to the init. Like toothy said you would have to save the parameters somewhere so that you could fetch them when your bot restarts

[high spire]

I used the Int64() function but it didn't work

await studentdata.insert_one({"name": self.fullname, "email": self.email, "discord_id": Int64(interaction.user.id)})

[lapis dock]

Make sure the column is of the correct type/length as well

[high spire]

what do you mean by that

[lapis dock]

Oh you are using mongo, It might have a different structure than I am used to.

[lofty parcel]

i just pass the int and mongo sets the type

you dont need to convert it

[high spire]

But it changed my value and roundd it

[lofty parcel]

oh nvm i store mine as strings

but i did used to send just the int

and it automatically converted

https://dark.hates-this.place/i/4Zx2NJ.png

https://dark.hates-this.place/i/szc9CN.png

[sage tendon]

yea you should store it as string

[ionic wasp]

how do i limit commands to a specific guild / channelid?

[errant trout]

for guild, set a list of guild_ids in your command decorator

for channel... either filter by ctx.channel.id in the command, or if you're an admin in the guild you can set permissions in settings -> integrations

[ionic wasp]

thanks

[high spire]

if anyone has the same problem in future, mongodb doesn't actually round the value automatically, it handles it

but when viewing it in vscode, it opened up as a json and misrepresented it even though the actual value stored was unchanged

[lapis dock]

Wow, that's not hard to debug at all (joke 🤣)

[lofty parcel]

Tf

VSC cursed

[deft hull]

How do you get the jump_url of the response of an application command

[sage tendon]

response = await ctx.respond(...)
response.message.jump_url

[quartz umbra]

can dc bots have different pfps in different servers or is that ridiculous?

[kind moat]

is it intentional for pages.Paginator(pages=pageGroups) to error without show_menu=True

[torn barn]

no, they cant

[sage tendon]

error how

[kind moat]

    if sum(pg.default is True for pg in self.page_groups) > 1:
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable

discord.errors.ApplicationCommandInvokeError: Application Command raised an exception: TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable```

[hallow osprey]

sorry if this is a noob question but i cant find anything on the docs
when loading a cog is it possible to reference a class in that cog? something like this:
main file ```py
bot.load_extension('cogs.views')
...
@bot.slash_command(name="hello", description="test")
async def button(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext):
await ctx.respond("", view=Views.ViewMain(), ephemeral=True) # also tried ViewMain()

**cog "views"** ```py
class Views(commands.Cog):

    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
    
    class ViewMain(discord.ui.View):
        @discord.ui.select(
            placeholder = "menu",
            min_values = 1,
            max_values = 1,
            options = [
                discord.SelectOption(label = "1", description="test")
            ]
        )
        async def select_callback(self, select, interaction):
            interaction.response.send_message(...)
            print(select.values)

def setup(bot):
    bot.add_cog(Views(bot))

i tried sending ViewMain() and Views.ViewMain() with no luck

[sage tendon]

import it

this is basic python, cogs arent some crazy construct, cogs are just classes

[hallow osprey]

oh ok

thanks

[sage tendon]

also dont put your views into a cog

serves no purpose, only just saw you did that

@hallow osprey

[hallow osprey]

why

[sage tendon]

because it doesnt do anything

it literally does nothing

[hallow osprey]

ok

[sage tendon]

and it makes them harder to import

[lapis dock]

Really it just makes your code cleaner

[lapis dock]

That does not look intentional

[hallow osprey]

is it possible to add custom emojis to buttons?

[ionic wasp]

yes, just pass emoji to the button

[hallow osprey]

i mean external emojis

[ionic wasp]

Like server ones? should work

[hallow osprey]

nope

"invalid emoji"

[ionic wasp]

Does your bot have access to the server

[hallow osprey]

oh shit

mistake after mistake 🤦

this is why i dont like programming

[ionic wasp]

[hallow osprey]

okay it works

[ionic wasp]

[quartz umbra]

Someone please tell me why this doesn't work: ```py

Wait for user response

    def check(m):
        return m.author == ctx.author and m.channel == ctx.channel and m.clean_content.lower() == "yes"
    print("waiting for user response")
    await self.bot.wait_for("message", check=check)
    print("user responded")

I'm very clearly typing yes. If i remove the yes condition it works (with whatever message I send)

[silk spire]

Maybe print clean_content in the check to see what you're comparing to

[quartz umbra]

let's see

okay what m.clean_content is just , what?

[silk spire]

Lmao

[quartz umbra]

and m.content

Tell me, does  == yes?

[silk spire]

Does your bot have access to message contents

[quartz umbra]

ah

im dumb

always intents

that catch me out

intents can be annoying sometimes - it works now thx

[hallow osprey]

sorry if im annoying or something, i suck at coding
what could be wrong here?

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "...\bot.py", line 60, in <module>
    class ViewRemote(discord.ui.view):
TypeError: module() takes at most 2 arguments (3 given)

this is the third view btw if that affects in any way

[quartz umbra]

you should post the code in question

[hallow osprey]

yeah but its just a bunch of buttons

i will try anyways

what was the paste service sorry

[limber wagon]

Tags (1)

paste

Use /tag get [name] to show a tag

Please copy and paste your code here. This makes it easier for everyone helping you.

[silk spire]

View* btw

[edgy nest]

capitalize the V

[hallow osprey]

oh crap

how can i be so dumb

thanks

[queen dirge]

Sorry to come back to this, but I can't get it to work. When I have a command like so:
@bot_group.command(name="reload", description="Reloads cogs", guild_ids=[9621##############])
I can still see it on other servers. Does it matter that it's in a SlashCommandGroup at all? ex:

bot_group = bot.create_group(
    name = "bot", 
    description = "Bot related commands",
    integration_types = {discord.IntegrationType.guild_install}
)

I even tried making a subgroup that restricts based on what I saw on the documentation, but this doesn't work at all (people in other servers with no roles can still see it)

dev_subgroup = bot_group.create_subgroup(
    name = 'dev',
    description = 'Developer commands',
    guild_ids = [9621##############],
    default_member_permissions = discord.Permissions(permissions = 0, administrator = True)
)

Thank you!

[sage tendon]

subcommands dont count as individual commands

they inherit everything from the main command

including guild ids

[queen dirge]

Ohh my god thank you!!

[pulsar ferry]

Hey guys noob question - how can i set up a task to run at a specific time (i.e. cron) ? Trying to have something run every 3 days at 12p for example

[sage tendon]

https://guide.pycord.dev/extensions/tasks

[lapis dock]

I dont think we support the "Every x duration at y time"

[sage tendon]

oh yea i missed that mb

[lapis dock]

That should be a fairly simple thing to add I would think.
Allow the user to set next_iteration

I guess you could do something funky with change_interval
Start it with a time
Change the interval to every 3.5 days
When it runs check if it is close to the time if so, change the interval back to the time

[torn barn]

(Or allow passing seconds, minutes or hours with time)

[lapis dock]

Wait the duration then wait until the time?

[torn barn]

Yeah

It starts the loop every X duration

And then waits until Y time and runs

And like that continuously

Or maybe other param but

[lapis dock]

That could even be implemented by the user if they want

with 2 loops

[torn barn]

Yah makes sense

Something like recurrent events on loops would heavily improve them lol

[lapis dock]

If I have time in the next few days I will look at tasks and see if there are some more features I can add.
I was also noticing that there is no way to have it wait until X to start the loop.

[torn barn]

Maybe using dateutil.rrule could help on tasks

Like, it would allow more flexibility on options for how they work

Plus it wouldnot make the code harder to read

[queen dirge]

This worked beautifully btw
Is there any graceful way to have different commands from the same group have different visibility, e.g. /mod kick only seen by people with kick_members permission, but /mod ban with ban_members?

[sage tendon]

no

[lapis dock]

No, discord did not entirely think subcommands through

[queen dirge]

Okay thank you!!

[sage tendon]

just do top level commands

there's no reason to bury them in a group like that

[pulsar ferry]

sorry guys i didnt follow these suggestions... are we saying its not supported or can be done with work around?

[pulsar ferry]

What is the proper way to be passing a time object?

    @tasks.loop(time=datetime.time(hour=12, minute=0, second=0))

doesnt seem to like this

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.ext.tasks.Loop
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.__call__
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.add_exception_type
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.after_loop
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.before_loop
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.cancel
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.change_interval
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.clear_exception_types
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.current_loop
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.error
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.failed
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.get_task
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.hours
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.is_being_cancelled
discord.ext.tasks.Loop.is_running

[lapis dock]

Can you elaborate on that is not working? Also make sure you are thinking about timezones. (Just use UTC to make things easier)

[echo wraith]

This seems right to me

from datetime import UTC fyi

[pulsar ferry]

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/ethan/PythonProjects/EliteSweeps/main.py", line 21, in <module>
    bot.load_extension(f"cogs.{cog}")
  File "/Users/ethan/PythonProjects/EliteSweeps/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/discord/cog.py", line 918, in load_extension
    self._load_from_module_spec(spec, name)
  File "/Users/ethan/PythonProjects/EliteSweeps/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/discord/cog.py", line 787, in _load_from_module_spec
    raise errors.ExtensionFailed(key, e) from e
discord.errors.ExtensionFailed: Extension 'cogs.casino' raised an error: TypeError: unbound method datetime.time() needs an argument

[echo wraith]

how do you import datetime ?

[pulsar ferry]

from datetime import datetime, timezone, timedelta

[lapis dock]

You need to use datetime.time, with that import I think you are using datetime.datetime.time

[echo wraith]

yes

[echo wraith]

from datetime import time

[pulsar ferry]

ah yep that did it

thanks

[echo wraith]

np

[lofty parcel]

I use datetime.datetime.datetime.datetime.time

[sage tendon]

you can pass it directly without wrapping it in a time object

p sure

[pulsar ferry]

literally every project i do i feel like this

[echo wraith]

datetime.timedate.date.dimeddate.datedtime.dt.tdate.time

[kind moat]

how can you remove attachment from bot response

[sage tendon]

pass files=[] to the edit

[hallow osprey]

how do i sleep after sending an interaction response message

[sage tendon]

sleep how

[echo wraith]

like this

[hallow osprey]

time sleep

[sage tendon]

just asyncio.sleep

[hallow osprey]

doesnt work

or maybe i have skill issue idk

oh yeah i do

[sage tendon]

"doesnt work" gives no info about your actual problem

[twilit socket]

users: list[discord.Member]
there's no way to get a list of users on the command? a select or something? this is giving me error. I checked on the on the docs about the discord.Option and there's only discord.Member as a type visible. A discord limitation or am i missing something?

[lapis dock]

Options cannot accept multiple things, discord limitation
Some solutions

1. Use a user select menu
2. Create an autocomplete function that you can use , as a seperator between user names
3. Create multiple options

[deft hull]

How can I import a cog method like send_death_message to another module?
I've tried importing the MoneyGame cog class entirely but the import failed

[errant trout]

don't import, use bot.get_cog to get the active instance

e.g. ```py
cog = self.bot.get_cog(COG_CLASS_NAME)
await cog.some_cog_function(...)

(you can also do this to directly run commands in other cogs)

[deft hull]

Thanks 👍

[dry gust]

Is there any way to get list of active events on server? I want to let admins (or automatic) set boosts (for exp and etc.) during some events

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.ScheduledEventStatus
discord.ScheduledEventStatus.active
discord.ScheduledEventStatus.canceled
discord.ScheduledEventStatus.cancelled
discord.ScheduledEventStatus.completed
discord.ScheduledEventStatus.scheduled
discord.ScheduledEvent.status

[dry gust]

no idea

[lapis dock]

Both of these

Then just loop through to see if they are active

[dry gust]

thank you!

[fresh sierra]

Is there a subgroup before invoke ?
Like there is in prefix command ?
(bump)

[autumn gust]

wah?

[frail basin]

Add audioop-lts; python_version >= "3.13" to your requirements.txt file

[little cobalt]

.tag audiooop

[sly karma]

Tag not found.

Did you mean...
audioop
audioop-lts

[little cobalt]

.tag audioop-lts

[sly karma]

Pycord 2.6.1 may work with Python 3.13, however it is not officially supported currently and can cause various issues. Until it is supported, it is recommended to use a previous version.

You might need to run pip install audioop-lts for voice features until Pycord 2.7 includes a Python-based audioop implementation.

[autumn gust]

oh ty

ah wait, how do you set up slash commands to work as a member app rather than a guild app?

[echo wraith]

you mean a user app ?

[autumn gust]

ya

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash users example.

[autumn gust]

ty

@bot.slash_command(integration_types={discord.IntegrationType.user_install}, name="ping", description="ping the bot!")
async def ping(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext):
    await ctx.respond("🏓 Pong!")

@bot.slash_command(
    integration_types={discord.IntegrationType.user_install},
)
async def greet(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, user: discord.User):
    await ctx.respond(f"Hello, {user}!")

I've got both of these, and none of them seem to even show up?

[echo wraith]

.tag slashnoshow

[sly karma]

Application Commands Not Showing Up?

• Refresh Discord by restarting or pressing Ctrl+R (or Command ⌘ + R)
• Uninstall libraries that conflict with the discord namespace (e.g. discord.py).
• Invite your bot with the application.commands scope.
• Load cogs before bot.run() (e.g. not in on_ready).
• Do not override on_connect.
• Update to the newest version of py-cord (see ?tag install).
• Turn off User Settings > Accessibility > Chat Input > Use legacy chat input.
• Share your code and errors.

[autumn gust]

oh shit right I forgot about the application.commands scope

thank you

I haven't done this for over a year, apologies

[sage tendon]

is your bot purely a user bot

[echo wraith]

np lmk if anything

[sage tendon]

also you should typehint your user var as discord.Member

[deft hull]

Hi, how do you get the message author in this case?

@discord.slash_command()
    async def shop(self, ctx):
        '''Buy some items.'''
        user = MoneyUser(ctx.user.id)
        view = ShopView()
        view.message = await ctx.respond(embed=ShopEmbed(user), view=view)

ShopView()

class ShopView(discord.ui.View):

    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__(timeout=None)
        self.sender = self.message.author
        self.user = MoneyUser(self.sender.id) # not to be confused with discord.User!!

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'author'

[ionic wasp]

you can pass it into the view

[little cobalt]

with ctx.author

[deft hull]

Yeah but the message returns None since ctx.respond returns an Interaction

[deft hull]

can't, I'm making that a persistent view so I can't pass any parameters

[deft hull]

Persistent views only work for a single message?

[echo wraith]

No

[deft hull]

Still confused on how persistent views work

[autumn gust]

that was a C+V directly from an example

[echo wraith]

Would you mind sharing what example ?

[autumn gust]

I wanna make a small debug command with a few choices,

@bot.slash_command(integration_types={discord.IntegrationType.user_install}, name="debug", description="various debug things")
@discord.option("Debug Option", type=str)
async def debug(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, choice: type):
    if type == "text file test":
        textfile = "debug.txt"
        with open(textfile, "r") as file:
            filecontent = file.read()
        ctx.respond(f"{filecontent}")
    else:
        ctx.respond("oops")

this is what I got so far, and I don't know how to make the selector, any help?

[echo wraith]

You can pass choices: list[str] to option

[autumn gust]

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/blob/master/examples/app_commands/slash_users.py

[echo wraith]

thy

[autumn gust]

huh?

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Option
discord.Option.autocomplete
discord.Option.channel_types
discord.Option.choices
discord.Option.default
discord.Option.description
discord.Option.description_localizations
discord.Option.input_type
discord.Option.max_length
discord.Option.max_value
discord.Option.min_length
discord.Option.min_value
discord.Option.name
discord.Option.name_localizations
discord.Option.required

[echo wraith]

It's bc of the decorator. You can use discord.option("...", choices=["a", "b", "c"])

[echo wraith]

No bc user command

[echo wraith]

It is correct to use discord.User

Because it's with a user command

[autumn gust]

ah fair

[autumn gust]

anyhow, I'm still... slightly confused?

oh that's the decorator text nvm I'm stupid

that doesn't show up at all?

(the command does just not the choice thing)

[lofty parcel]

Please show the full command signature

[autumn gust]

?

[echo wraith]

.tag slashnoshow

[sly karma]

Application Commands Not Showing Up?

• Refresh Discord by restarting or pressing Ctrl+R (or Command ⌘ + R)
• Uninstall libraries that conflict with the discord namespace (e.g. discord.py).
• Invite your bot with the application.commands scope.
• Load cogs before bot.run() (e.g. not in on_ready).
• Do not override on_connect.
• Update to the newest version of py-cord (see ?tag install).
• Turn off User Settings > Accessibility > Chat Input > Use legacy chat input.
• Share your code and errors.

[echo wraith]

try restarting discord after making changes to commands metadata

[lofty parcel]

You have to add it to the command signature too

How else would you access it inside the command

async def ...(ctx, debug_option: str)

[sage tendon]

then that example is wrong

[sage tendon]

No. You still get a member object.

Many things aren't filled in, but it's still a member object

[echo wraith]

Yeah you're right

It's user when using in private contexts

[echo wraith]

The example is correct because of contexts={discord.InteractionContextType.private_channel}

But yeah in that case it was indeed correct to use discord.Member and not discord.User

[autumn gust]

oh right I forgot to hit ctrl+R on my web app

async def get_animal_types(ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
  """
  Here we will check if 'ctx.options['animal_type']' is a marine or land animal and return respective option choices
  """
  animal_type = ctx.options['animal_type']
  if animal_type == 'Marine':
    return ['Whale', 'Shark', 'Fish', 'Octopus', 'Turtle']
  else: # is land animal
    return ['Snake', 'Wolf', 'Lizard', 'Lion', 'Bird']

@bot.slash_command(name="animal")
async def animal_command(
  ctx: discord.ApplicationContext,
  animal_type: discord.Option(str, choices=['Marine', 'Land']),
  animal: discord.Option(str, autocomplete=discord.utils.basic_autocomplete(get_animal_types))
):
  await ctx.respond(f'You picked an animal type of `{animal_type}` that led you to pick `{animal}`!')

is this an old example or something? pasting it in to understand the code behind it errors out and doesn't show the slash command at all

[little cobalt]

Looks fine for me

[autumn gust]

restarted twice and still doesn't appear to even do as much as show up?

[little cobalt]

refresh your client ctrl + r

[autumn gust]

I did, twice

[little cobalt]

The discord client?

[autumn gust]

yes

refreshed the bot a 2nd time to sanity check, doesn't work either

[glossy tide]

What are the best useful libraries for Pycord bots? I found for example DiscordUtils (for Tracking Invite and music), but I don't think it's a good idea since it's abandoned. In addition, I would look for something that allows you to make welcome/level images easily.

If you know other librairies that facilitate other tasks, you can tell me too

[shell radish]

people usually use PIL/pillow/python image library to create images

[lapis dock]

TBH there are not really libraries that you would use. If you are looking for premade stuff it would be better to find the codesnipets somewhere (such as github) and copy-paste it into your own code.

Paillat made this https://github.com/nicebots-xyz/botkit
And there is something called ezcord but I am not sure how good it is

[lofty parcel]

God forbid ezcord

[glossy tide]

Okay thanks !

[glossy tide]

Okay I would try all this

[shell radish]

they are the same thing

[glossy tide]

Oh okat

Okay

[ionic wasp]

how is this replicable, when sending a command with a attachment arg

[autumn gust]

still need help with this

[lapis dock]

This is just a VS code thing. It should not effect the actual functionality of your bot.

[ionic wasp]

to ignore those you can put # type: ignore after the line where that warning occurs iirc

[sage tendon]

or use the decorator version to do options

[autumn gust]

how do you get autocomplete with a decorator?

[sage tendon]

same way as with the typehint

they're 95% the exact same

check the docs and you'll see

[hybrid fossil]

Hi there!
Am I the only one for whom change_presence no longer works?

[lofty parcel]

The status or the activity?

There's some issue with activities if it hasn't been fixed yet

[lapis dock]

Supposedly solved https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/issues/7380#issuecomment-2641566131

[shell radish]

if you're going to use "whom," use it correctly. "for which" instead of "for whom" would be proper /j

[lapis dock]

squid no scolding users about grammar in the help channels

[lofty parcel]

You've been using too much grammarly

[shell radish]

grammarly doesn't care for relative pronouns

[lapis dock]

Pretty sure squid made grammerly with how much they know about grammar

[versed root]

@slash_command()
async def add_reaction(self,ctx:discord.ApplicationContext,emoji: str):
    """test_reaction"""
    try:
        await ctx.response.defer()
        message = await ctx.channel.fetch_message(1302520347651739668)
        await message.add_reaction(emoji)
        await ctx.respond("done")
    except Exception as e:
        await ctx.respond(e)

When I use the command for the first time, it can add a reaction. But when I use it the second time, it gets stuck at the add_reaction line and keeps loading. Why does this happen? Did I do something wrong?

[hushed rivet]

got this error recently - anyone know why?

[frail basin]

You arent responding to the interaction within 3 seconds

You should defer the interaction, which extends this window to 15 minutes.

[hushed rivet]

interesting

pretty sure it has a defer

showd up on clientside as timed out

[frail basin]

Speaking from experience, if your command defers the interaction, its probably something with your host's network

Is this a public or private bot?

[hushed rivet]

public, and works perfectly after a restart

maybe it just had a quick lapse in compute resources or smth - its on a quite small vps

[frail basin]

Do all of the interactions fail or only a few?

[hushed rivet]

theyre all fine now, i cant make it crash it only happened once in months

[frail basin]

Probably just a network blip then.

[hushed rivet]

alright, thanks

just wanted to know if it was a known issue in some other way lol

[frail basin]

This shouldnt crash the bot though.

[hushed rivet]

oh

oops, i kinda assumed it crashed

does pycord have error handling in that way

[frail basin]

Yeah

Seems like it properly caught it

[frail basin]

First line in the log

[hushed rivet]

ah, that makes sense

didnt even think to test it

thanks for the help!

[silk spire]

Can't

Those are coded into the client

[ionic wasp]

oh

odd

[silk spire]

Discord wants to control everything so

[sage tendon]

it's just a discord sided error. it doesn't involve the bot at all. so it makes no sense for the bot to intervene in some way

[autumn gust]

I have a really bad issue reading docs, I learn way better seeing examples

and I don't see an example of a decorator autocomplete?

[sage tendon]

?

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/application_commands.html#discord.commands.option

all in the guide and docs

just gotta look for it

and you just pass the autocomplete in there just like you already do

[autumn gust]

wait, so instead I should do

@discord.option("autocomplete hint here", type=discord.AutocompleteContext)

?

[lapis dock]

Reading docs is definitely a skill. With practice you will get better at it. But it is a important part of development. You should try not to dismiss it as "I dont know how to read docs"

[autumn gust]

yeah fair, I just... really badly struggle to see how the different things fall together

like autocomplete thing right now is a good example of it lmao

[lapis dock]

In the example listed above "first" is the name of the argument

[sage tendon]

no.. what

autocomplete=autocompletefunction()

[lapis dock]

To convert from typehint to decorator options you just need to copy paste what you had in the Option(...)
And put it in the decorator version. @discord.option(...) and then add the name of the argument as the first argument of the decorator.

[autumn gust]

oh wait, like this?

ooooooooooh wait, okay I get it now I think?

[sage tendon]

yea but just pass the type positionally, and just pass str
you really don't need the slashcommandoptiontype stuff it's kinda unnecessary

and no, the first string is the name of the option

[tidal vessel]

Does Pycord already have support for Python 2.13?

[sage tendon]

description is done via description=

all neatly described in the docs

[sage tendon]

I wouldn't hope so

[little cobalt]

Python 2 is pretty old ;3

[sage tendon]

:> as for 3.13, not quite but it works if you install audioop-lts

[tidal vessel]

A lol Sorry it was 3

[little cobalt]

xd

[tidal vessel]

So I'm still at 3.12 for now.

[tidal vessel]

And do you know if there are more problems?

[sage tendon]

not to my knowledge

just don't use 3.13.1

3.13.0 works, but .1 is just not working with some really weird error

[echo wraith]

Some people had issues. I didn't try, but in general I avoid being on the last version because some dependencies I need can not work

[tidal vessel]

Ok thanks for the information

[lapis dock]

There are some other minor issues, something with flags for prefix commands

[autumn gust]

async def debug_options(ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
    animal_type = ctx.options['debug']
    if animal_type == 'Marine':
        return ['Whale', 'Shark', 'Fish', 'Octopus', 'Turtle']
    else: # is land animal
        return ['Snake', 'Wolf', 'Lizard', 'Lion', 'Bird']

@bot.slash_command(integration_types={discord.IntegrationType.user_install}, name="debug", description="various debug things")
@discord.option("pick the debug option", type=str, autocomplete=discord.utils.basic_autocomplete("text file debug"))
async def debug(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, debug=["text file debug", "no debug"]):
    if debug == "text file test":
        textfile = "debug.txt"
        with open(textfile, "r") as file:
            filecontent = file.read()
        await ctx.respond(f"{filecontent}")
    else:
        await ctx.respond("oops")

trying to weave that example function into my code to see how it works, but it just doesn't appear to?

[sage tendon]

you ignored what I said

the first parameter of the option decorator is the option name, which should match the name of the argument in the function def

and don't do debug=(this) in the function def, just typehint it as str there

[lapis dock]

Are you planning on adding dynamic options to the command or will you only ever have text file debug and no debug?

[autumn gust]

I am planning to, yeah

[sage tendon]

also uh, if you want to limit it to a certain amount - yea what Wolfy said

[autumn gust]

wait so wdym?

[sage tendon]

I mean exactly what I said

[autumn gust]

yeah and what you said means nothing to me rn

[sage tendon]

what part

[autumn gust]

wdym by the first argument is a name, what do I do then?

[sage tendon]

change it to the name of the option

[autumn gust]

also, what's typehinting

[lapis dock]

In this example you can see that the arguments for the command are ctx, first, second and the options first arguement is first the argument of the function and the first argument of the option have to match

[sage tendon]

e.g. debug in your case

[autumn gust]

wait, so this?

fuck wai tno that's the command

[sage tendon]

that's the other thing I said, but you need to change it in the option decorator

[lapis dock]

that is part of the solution

[autumn gust]

so, like this, yes?

[sage tendon]

no

debug

just that (as string)

[lapis dock]

No, you are confusing the actual name of the argument with the description

[sage tendon]

and you can remove the type= before str to pass the type argument positionally, saves you a few characters

[autumn gust]

?

[lapis dock]

👍

[autumn gust]

so now, how to add autocomplete onto this?

[sage tendon]

you already had it here lol

well

[autumn gust]

wait so I did everything correctly except my command was fucked?

lmao

[sage tendon]

you gotta put your real function there but that's how

if you use the discord utils autocomplete thingy you need to pass the function name of your autocomplete there, NOT as string, and NOT with () after it

it does the matching on its own
if you plan to handle that in your own function it's enough to put your command name in autocomple=, that time WITH ()

might be confusing but if you read it slowly, twice, it'll make sense

[autumn gust]

I only plan to have a few debug options to test out features myself, and it's just so I don't have to look at code to remember every single one,

also, can you explain what passing the function means?

[sage tendon]

if you do autocomplete=discord.utils.basic_autocomplete(functionname) the library will automatically only match the values that start with what the user already typed, i think
if you do autocomplete=functionname() all values shown to the user depend on what you return from your autocomplete function

[autumn gust]

so wait, if I want to do autocomplete=functionname() I can do:

async def debug_options(ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
  return "option1"
  return "option2"
  ...

?

[sage tendon]

thats not how python works lol

[autumn gust]

right.

oh yeah wait isn't it

[sage tendon]

if you look at the docs, you'll see that it expects either a list of strings, floats or ints, or to be passed a function name directly (never saw that used though)

[autumn gust]

async def debug_options(ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
  return ["option1", "option2", "option3"]

instead?

[sage tendon]

yea

[autumn gust]

uuuuh

what did I miss again

[sage tendon]

ah yea i forgor something

remove the parentheses

im dumb

[lapis dock]

smh toothy

[sage tendon]

mrow

[autumn gust]

moment of truth

[sage tendon]

now type n

or t

[autumn gust]

still works for me!

that'll be a job for another day probably tbh

unless... hold on

[sage tendon]

just wrap it in discord.utils.basic_autocomplete

that should make that work

[autumn gust]

yeah, it just clicked

thank you!

[stray cape]

hey guys I'm getting this error many times

Exception occured:

  File "/home/luxkatana/pyenv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/discord/client.py", line 443, in _run_event
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/home/luxkatana/cautious-computing-machine/main.py", line 191, in on_ready
    mainloop.start()
  File "/home/luxkatana/pyenv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/discord/ext/tasks/__init__.py", line 327, in start
    raise RuntimeError("Task is already launched and is not completed.")
RuntimeError: Task is already launched and is not completed.

while running my bot for a long time

mainloop is a task

[lofty parcel]

on_ready can fire multiple times

You should add a check or add a once listener instead of using the event

[stray cape]

once listener?

[lofty parcel]

.rtfm listener

[sly karma]

17 results

discord.StageChannel.listeners
discord.Bot.add_listener
discord.Bot.remove_listener
discord.Cog.get_listeners
discord.Cog.listener
discord.AutoShardedBot.add_listener
discord.AutoShardedBot.remove_listener
discord.ext.bridge.Bot.add_listener
discord.ext.bridge.Bot.remove_listener
discord.ext.commands.Bot.add_listener
discord.ext.commands.Bot.remove_listener
discord.ext.commands.Cog.get_listeners
discord.ext.commands.Cog.listener
discord.ext.bridge.AutoShardedBot.add_listener
discord.ext.bridge.AutoShardedBot.remove_listener
discord.ext.commands.AutoShardedBot.add_listener
discord.ext.commands.AutoShardedBot.remove_listener

[lofty parcel]

You can add in a cog

[stray cape]

just a simple cog with one listener?

[lofty parcel]

@commands.Cog.listener(once=True)
async def on_ready(self):
      await mainloop.start()

[stray cape]

aha okay

this'll trigger once on_ready

[lofty parcel]

Or if you don't wanna waste time just to make a cog for a listener

Just add a check

[stray cape]

why does on_ready get then triggered many times?

[lofty parcel]

This library implements reconnection logic and thus will end up calling this event whenever a RESUME request fails.

[stray cape]

I'm starting to understand you

alright thank you

[stray cape]

if i just create one cog with only that listener would that be fine?

[sage tendon]

honestly just create a boolean and change it to true if on ready already ran, and then only start the task in on ready if that var is false

[stray cape]

yeah that should work too

much simpler

[stray cape]

so if "some" flag attribute doesn't exist on the bot object, then I should define the flag attribute?

[sage tendon]

i think just putting it in your main file should work fine

[stray cape]

oh globally

[sage tendon]

thats not global tho

[lofty parcel]

Both ways would work

Use whatever your want

[sage tendon]

(why people just dont use cogs in general is still beyond me but oh well)

[stray cape]

because my project only consists of a main loop

and maybe one or two slash commands :p

[lofty parcel]

Why did you overcomplicate it lol

[sage tendon]

var = False
on_ready
if not var:
start task
var = true

[stray cape]

yeah ill just add a globally one

[lofty parcel]

fired = False

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    if not fired:
            await mainloop.start()
            fired = True

[limpid marten]

toothy still at being a goat

[stray cape]

ill just keep it at this then ig

thx people!

[stray cape]

since when does main.loop() have to be awaited

[lofty parcel]

Oh idk probably you don't have to await it

I haven't touched code in like 4 months

[stray cape]

oh alright

that explains but thanks guys

!!

too lazy to write a commit message

[sage tendon]

brh

[limpid marten]

this is kinda stupid and i can prolly answer this question by just double checking the docs but... how do i make an optional text thingie as in

[sage tendon]

use options

https://guide.pycord.dev/interactions/application-commands/slash-commands#options--option-types

and i recommend the decorator version

[limpid marten]

yeah i dont think i used this correctly

[sage tendon]

you did

but thats not the decorator lol

[limpid marten]

i used type annotations anyways

seemed easier

[sage tendon]

well just for my two cents, its a lot more chaotic and messy than decorators

oh well

[limpid marten]

it shows up as a required option though

[sage tendon]

well you didnt pass required=False lol

it doesnt magically know what you want

[limpid marten]

oops

[sage tendon]

look at the docs

[limpid marten]

yup, found it, thank you

[kind moat]

use_default_buttons=False, custom_buttons=[], show_disabled=False fail to hide default buttons on default pagegroup

[kind moat]

how to get application emojis

[sage tendon]

they are not supported yet

[lapis dock]

It is on master!

[round heart]

Wen 2.7

[lapis dock]

[fallen torrent]

hey guys, how do i place a channel at a specific index inside of a category like

cat
  - channel 1
  - channel 2
  - channel 3

and i want to place a new channel, channel 4 at where channel 1 is

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.TextChannel.edit

[sage tendon]

I think it's position

additionally to passing the category

[round girder]

everytime i access discord.ApplicationContext.command.id it is not the commands actual ID and I have no idea where the number is being pulled from. what is happening here?

this has been an issue for literally weeks and 5 minutes ago i was legit like "what if somehow the data is wrong in the context?" and it is... for some reason

looking through the docs has led me to be further confused because.. shouldnt it be the correct command ID?

very lost rn

please @ me if you have anything to say

[lofty parcel]

Is this a command group?

[round girder]

no, slash command

i may have figured out where its coming from... but im still very confused on why..

discord>my server>settings>integrations>my bot>commands>copy command id>
                         : 1013672725501448272
command id in my database: 1013672725501448272
id from ctx              : 1333583531024318562
id from cog.command.id   : 1333583531024318562

[lofty parcel]

A slash command group?

[round girder]

no, for this example im literally using my help command

no groups

i dont use groups

groups suck

at least rn

this is on the development bot of mine, but it works fine on production

the only difference I can think of now that im really thinking is maybe its because my development bot has the command limited to 3 servers?

is the command ID different if you limit it to a set number of servers?

like

[round girder]

class Help(commands.Cog):
  def __init__(self, client : commands.Bot):
    self.client = client

  @commands.slash_command(
    guild_ids = ALL_SERVERS,
    name = data.commands.help.name,
    description = data.commands.help.description
  )
  @cooldown(
    1,
    data.commands.help.cooldown,
    BucketType.user
  )
  async def cb_help(
    self,
    ctx : discord.ApplicationContext
  ):
    ...
    print(f"INTERNAL1: {data.commands.help.id()}")
    print(f"EXTERNAL1: {ctx.command.id}")
    print(f"INTERNAL2: {self.cb_help.id}")
    ...


  def setup(client : commands.Bot):
    client.add_cog(Help(client))

when run:

CONSOLE:

INTERNAL1: 1013672725501448272
EXTERNAL1: 1333583531024318562
INTERNAL2: 1333583531024318562

the ALL_SERVERS is a list of IDs for my dev bot and null for the prod bot

it works fine there so im guessing thats the issue

ill see if i can just use these weird new IDs

[lapis dock]

I believe so, I think each server gets its own command and ID
Ideally you should not be working with the ID because the name of the command needs to be unique anyways and is more reliable.

I dont think it is possible to change the name without changing the ID either so essentially the name is the non-changing ID

[round girder]

well that sucks

ID literally becomes meaningless then

isnt the purpose of ID to IDentify

[lapis dock]

Yeah, but it sounds like in your case you can just use the command name as the ID. Because that will also identify the command.

[arctic oar]

Ever since the Discord patch on Feb 3 with the re-written Media Proxy (not sure if this is even related)

My bots been responding very slowly (30sec+) when sending images as files, does anyone know how to fix this?

[wary silo]

embed = discord.Embed(title=embed_title, color=appctx.author.color, footer=discord.EmbedFooter(page_range))

discord.errors.ApplicationCommandInvokeError: Application Command raised an exception: AttributeError: module 'discord' has no attribute 'EmbedFooter'

what may cause this? running on synology nas container manager, py3.11.4 py-cord 2.6.1, no install any other discord related packages. i can see EmbedFooter at embeds.py on my computer
i've run this code around 1.5 years age, it's no problem at that time

it's fine if i use set_footer, just curious

[sage tendon]

maybe you're not supposed to access it directly

also you're running python 3.13 lol

[wary silo]

got it

that's in my computer XD, it's 3.11.4 in container, i know it can't run in 3.13 now, cus of the audioo(somethin like this) problem

EmbedFooter is fine in 3.12.9, another version on my computer, so maybe some problem with contaner's version, but i don't use alpine version

[quartz umbra]

this seems really dumb but uh are you actually able to do this?? (where on_message is registered normally)

for message in messages:
        await on_message(message)

?

[sage tendon]

what

why?

[quartz umbra]

it would just be easier for a little something im doing

if that was possible

[sage tendon]

what are you doing

[quartz umbra]

so im doing some processing in on_message to like update to a db, and im just making a helper function to bulk-process a bunch of messages at once

in case the bot is offlien or smth

[sage tendon]

i mean sure, try it
if it doesnt work (not sure how listeners work exactly) just put all your on_message code into a seperate function you can then call normally

[quartz umbra]

yeah ig

it would be cool if it worked

[silk spire]

Why wouldn't it work, It's still a normal python function

[quartz umbra]

for future reference: no it doesn't work

[silk spire]

Any errors?

[quartz umbra]

pretty sure its the decorator

[quartz umbra]

nah

[silk spire]

All the decorator does it add it to an internal dict and return the function

[quartz umbra]

lets see

nvm its my logic

[silk spire]

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/blob/master/discord%2Fcog.py#L424-L430

Lol

[quartz umbra]

i'll update you when i fix it

[sage tendon]

no :3

thats also why you cant directly call slash command functions

the decorator changes the attribute to be a SlashCommand object

[silk spire]

We're talking about listeners tho

[sage tendon]

i doubt its any different for listeners

[silk spire]

What would it return?

A Listener object? Commands return the object to allow setting an error handler etc

[sage tendon]

hm yea seems listeners leave it intact

[silk spire]

slash commands could implement __call__ to somewhat keep the original behaviour lol

[sage tendon]

there's something like that

[edgy nest]

they do

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/blob/master/discord%2Fcommands%2Fcore.py#L275-L286

[silk spire]

Ohh, nice!

[round girder]

reloading extensions is not working for me. ill run client.reload_extension after saving a file and.. it wont reflect changes made in the cog file

please @ me

[sage tendon]

reloading cogs with slash commands isn't really working properly iirc

[fresh sierra]

You will need to sync command after the reloading

[round girder]

wdym

[round girder]

sometimes it works fine but lik 70% of the time im left there like

[fresh sierra]

await bot.sync_commands

[round girder]

doesnt this.. only do things on discord's side? im talking about, for example, changing the color of a command's embed from red to orange and it not working (unless i restart the bot)

[fresh sierra]

This will update the command

But I understand your thing now so yeah it’s not about discord slash command

Can you pls show the code, it’s gonna help us understand

[round girder]

ima just listen to Toothy and trust that its not working for whatever reason

[sage tendon]

i was talking about slash commands not properly resyncing
code changes itself should work, although im not sure if unchanged slash commands even load properly again

if you really wanna test this, make a cog that only has a prefix command and try the same thing there

[wary silo]

because of my typo so py-cord version in requirements.txt is 2.4.1 lmao, it fixed now

[flat wind]

Hello !
why does the user.mutual_guilds do not return all mutual guilds but only some ?
to get the user info, I used get_or_fetch_user method

[silk spire]

Cache

It relies on guilds and members cache:

[g for g in bot.guilds if g.get_member(user.id)]

Also it only gets the servers they share with your bot, not you.

[mighty otter]

Is it possible to use modals without making a class?

[lapis dock]

Technically yeah, you just have to set m.callback manually

[mighty otter]

can you please giv4e a short example snippet because when i do that it doesnt close the modal popup and says "Something went wrong." (its from a button btw)

[little cobalt]

usually you didnt respond to it with await interaction.response.send_message()

[lapis dock]

Yeah, that sounds like a problem with your code. Can you show what you tried

[stray pasture]

Is the new monetization by Discord still only required in US ?

[sage tendon]

supported* yes
I think maybe UK too but nowhere else afaik

[stray pasture]

oh I found the complete list

https://support-dev.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/17297949965079-How-Do-I-Monetize-My-App#h_01HB90E77QPN986GFV0S01ZSF2

I still don't have to support it 😄

perfect

[sage tendon]

that's only the supported locales

not countries where it works

[stray pasture]

ooh what is the differences ?

[sage tendon]

oh wait

no they just worded it dumbly

bruh

also I think for some reason bot monetisation is different to server monetisation regarding which countries it works in

[stray pasture]

that is confusing 😄

for the link I found it here

But is it safe to assume if my country is not there that I don’t have to do it ?

[sage tendon]

why would you have to do anything lol

[stray pasture]

otherwise they terminate my app ahahaha

[sage tendon]

because you have premium stuff already?

[stray pasture]

I just needed to verify on stripe and send valid gouvernement id to stripe

Yeah I have premium, but not throught discord

[sage tendon]

ah yea

yea no then you don't need to do anything, I mean, you can't

[stray pasture]

yeah the fees are now 15 % for growth tier instead of 2.9% + 0.3 ahaha

for use the stripe in both ways

instead of having 2 $ fees for lifetime, I will notw have 11 $ 😄

[mighty otter]

            async def modal_callback(interaction):
                modal = Modal(title="Enter Your Player's Name")
                modal.add_item(InputText(label="Player Name", placeholder="Enter player name", min_length=4, style=InputStyle.singleline))

                await interaction.response.send_modal(modal)

                await modal.wait()
                player_name = modal.children[0].value.strip()  # Extract the input text

                select.options = get_player_options(player_name)
                select.disabled = False

                player_embed.description = f"Selected Player: **{player_name}**\nChoose from the list below!"
                await interaction.message.edit(embed=player_embed, view=view)

[lapis dock]

You are not ever responding to the modals interaction. You should move everything after .wait into the modals callback. And then respond to the interaction with an edit message instead of editing the message separately. Then you can remove the modal.wait.

This would be a bit simpler if you just sub classed the modals.

[steep garden]

Hi ! I'm working on a realtime transcription of voice calls bot. To reduce latency, I want to start transcribing the audio as soon as possible and not once everything have been saved. I see there is a connect_websocket in the Voice client implementation but there is no documentation. Does anybody knows how it works ? Or maybe any other way than waiting for the callback function of start_recording so I can start the transcription while the audio is being recorded ? Thanks in advance !

[lapis dock]

Best that I can say is good luck, I know there have been other users that have done (or tried to) in the past.
I might be able to look into a bit more later but no guarantees.

[lofty parcel]

I believe there's something about transcription in #creations

[lapis dock]

These threads may be of use
https://canary.discord.com/channels/881207955029110855/1136741604783308940
#1251938693950996500 message

#creations message

[steep garden]

Nice thanks ! 🙏

[fallen torrent]

    async def delete_slot_autocomplete(self, ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
        slotsdb = SlotsDB()
        slots_channels = []
        for slot in slotsdb.get_all_slots():
            channel = slot.get("slot_id")
            if channel is not None:
                slots_channels.append(discord.utils.get(ctx.interaction.guild.channels, id=channel))
        return slots_channels```
ive got this autocomplete, but what input_type should i set for Option, doing discord.TextChannels seems to override the autocomplete, i only want it to show the autocompletes text channels

[naive ferry]

I change to using a venv, and now im getting this error?

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/stigstille/Bots/BurgyBot/discordBot.py", line 1, in <module>
    import discord, pygsheets
  File "/home/stigstille/Bots/BurgyBot/burgybot/lib/python3.13/site-packages/discord/__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
    from . import abc, opus, sinks, ui, utils
  File "/home/stigstille/Bots/BurgyBot/burgybot/lib/python3.13/site-packages/discord/abc.py", line 58, in <module>
    from .voice_client import VoiceClient, VoiceProtocol
  File "/home/stigstille/Bots/BurgyBot/burgybot/lib/python3.13/site-packages/discord/voice_client.py", line 55, in <module>
    from .player import AudioPlayer, AudioSource
  File "/home/stigstille/Bots/BurgyBot/burgybot/lib/python3.13/site-packages/discord/player.py", line 29, in <module>
    import audioop
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'audioop'

i dont even use any VC things

[raw beacon]

.tag audioop

[sly karma]

Pycord 2.6.1 may work with Python 3.13, however it is not officially supported currently and can cause various issues. Until it is supported, it is recommended to use a previous version.

You might need to run pip install audioop-lts for voice features until Pycord 2.7 includes a Python-based audioop implementation.

[lapis dock]

Auto complete only supports
STRING, INTEGER, NUMBER
On discords side.

[stray pasture]

is there a Python Library for Top.gg that works with py-cord ? The official one is with discord.py

[lofty parcel]

Huh?

https://github.com/Top-gg-Community/python-sdk

It doesn't mention discord.py anywhere

[stray pasture]

when you install it it install discord.py with it

[lofty parcel]

You can simply uninstall d.py or ignore the dependency when using pip install

Weird cause their github repo only shows aiohttp as a req

[stray pasture]

yeah it is dumb, not everyone uses discord.py

[lofty parcel]

It's probably because they subclass shit from d.py to make a custom client

[stray pasture]

maybe I jsut copy paste the code I want ahaha

I just want to update the server count

😄

not that complicated

[lofty parcel]

I mean you could also just send a raw request by yourself

[stray pasture]

yes I think I will do that

thank you 🙃

[errant trout]

fwiw you can make any arbitrary request on a bot using bot.http.get_from_cdn(url)

[lapis dock]

I believe the master branch does not require d.py they just have not released a version.

[silk spire]

Yeah it doesn't seem to use anything from dpy or any package other than aiohttp anymore

[echo wraith]

I just did it manually, when I used to use topgg. Their python sdk sucks

[stray pasture]

Ooh right! Thank you !

Will probably call the endpoint directly

[granite python]

``AttributeError: 'Bot' object has no attribute 'add_command'. Did you mean: 'all_commands'?

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0\main.py", line 13, in <module>
bot.load_extension('cogs.Moderation')
File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0.venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\cog.py", line 918, in load_extension
self._load_from_module_spec(spec, name)
File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0.venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\cog.py", line 801, in _load_from_module_spec
raise errors.ExtensionFailed(key, e) from e
discord.errors.ExtensionFailed: Extension 'cogs.Moderation' raised an error: AttributeError: 'Bot' object has no attribute 'add_command'`` Could anybody, by chance, lend me some of their knowledge to understand what may be causing this? I can post the code as well but don't want to flood this text channel if it's more complex and needs to be posted in it's own ticket.

[sage tendon]

can you show the code in your cog

[granite python]

Yes, all of it?

[sage tendon]

you didnt show the initial error so i can only assume you are using bot.add_command

[granite python]

``class Moderation(commands.Cog):
def init(self, bot):
self.bot = bot
print('added cog')

@commands.command(name='kick', description='Kicks a user from the server.')
async def kick(self, ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, member: discord.Member, reason: str):
    await member.kick(reason=reason)
    await ctx.respond(f'Kicked {member.name}: {reason}!')

@commands.command(name='ban', description='Bans a user from the server.')
async def ban(self, ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, member: discord.Member, reason: str):
    await member.ban(reason=reason)
    await ctx.respond(f'Banned {member.name}: {reason}!')

@commands.command(name='unban', description='Unbans a user from the server.')
async def unban(self, ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, member: discord.Member, reason: str):
    await member.unban(reason=reason)
    await ctx.respond(f'Unbanned {member.name}: {reason}!')

@commands.command(name='timeout', description='Timeout for a user from the server.')
async def timeout(self, ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, member: discord.Member, duration: int,  reason: str):
    if duration >= 0:
        await ctx.respond(f'Please choose a time greater than 0.')
        await asyncio.sleep(duration)
    duration = timedelta(minutes=duration)
    await member.timeout_for(duration)
    await ctx.respond(f'{member.name} timed out for {duration} minutes. Reason : {reason}!')

def setup(bot):
bot.add_cog(Moderation(bot))``

[sage tendon]

what's your pycord version first of all

[sage tendon]

also can you show the error above this one

[granite python]

2.6.1

[granite python]

Yes! Sorry

Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0\.venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\cog.py", line 796, in _load_from_module_spec setup(self) File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0\cogs\Moderation.py", line 37, in setup bot.add_cog(Moderation(bot)) File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0\.venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\cog.py", line 666, in add_cog cog = cog._inject(self) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0\.venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\cog.py", line 574, in _inject raise e File "C:\Users\pbris\PycharmProjects\PythonProject\zeusbot2.0\.venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\cog.py", line 568, in _inject bot.add_command(command) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[sage tendon]

uninstall and reinstall pycord

[granite python]

Can do, 1 moment

Done

[sage tendon]

does it work?

[granite python]

Still recieving same error...

The commands all worked prior to moving them to a cog so that's where I am lost

[sage tendon]

are you using discord.Bot in your bot definition?

[granite python]

Yes

[sage tendon]

hm

oh you need to use @discord.slash_command for slash commands

[granite python]

bot = discord.Bot(debug_guilds=[-])

[sage tendon]

i think commands.command is only prefix

[granite python]

I have a guild just removed for this

[sage tendon]

?

[granite python]

Referring to the debug_guilds sorry

[granite python]

Ohhh ok thank you! will try this now

You rock man! That did it, thank you so much!

[round heart]

Can I make .utils.get() case insensitive?

[hexed herald]

is it possible to return something that was written in modal to another view?

like
View A -> button triggers Modal -> user types in modal -> Modal returns to View A

[frail basin]

modal = MyModal()
await interaction.response.send_modal(modal)
await modal.wait()
print(modal.children[0].value)

Something like that

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/ui_kit.html#discord.ui.Modal.wait

[hexed herald]

ty, I'll try it

[little cobalt]

Pls still add a interaction.response.send_message at still

[hexed herald]

yeah, I did a await interaction.response.defer()

[little cobalt]

That is not a message

[hexed herald]

do I have to send an message?

I thought I could get away with an defer

[little cobalt]

You have to send a message

[hexed herald]

dang it, I'll add an message to it

[little cobalt]

Just do a Hidden message

[little cobalt]

Defer is to extend the time to send a message

[lapis dock]

Do you mean in the modal callback?

[hexed herald]

yeah ik, what do you mean with "hidden msg"?

[little cobalt]

Yea

[silk spire]

No but you can use .find

# discord.utils.get(users, name="lol")
discord.utils.find(lambda u: u.name.lower() == "lol", users)

[eternal kite]

is it possible to have two subcommands with the same name but different command group?

[lapis dock]

/hello world
/goodbye world
Do you mean like this?

[eternal kite]

yes

and also /world /hello world

[lapis dock]

Yes to both.
You just can't have
/hello AND /hello world

[eternal kite]

but how should i call them manually if both functions have the same name?

[lapis dock]

What do you mean?

[eternal kite]

if for some reason i need to call any of the function individually how should i do it

[lapis dock]

Name the functions different things and do name="buy" in the decorator

[sage tendon]

what even are you doing inside of the commands lmao

[eternal kite]

ah thanks

[eternal kite]

lol different features

game shop and trading market

[sage tendon]

what even is _import_

[eternal kite]

it's a python built-in method

[sage tendon]

yea duh but what does it do

[eternal kite]

same as typing import slash at the top of your file

[sage tendon]

why aren't you importing it normally tho

[eternal kite]

fancy

[sage tendon]

ah yes

[round heart]

Thanks for the confirmation. This is what I ended up doing after looking through the code.

[echo wraith]

Is it possible to listen to audit log event creation ?

[lofty parcel]

Afaik yes?

.rtfm on_audit

[sly karma]

Target not found, try again and make sure to check your spelling.

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.on_audit_log_entry
discord.on_raw_audit_log_entry

[echo wraith]

Yes

thx

[lofty parcel]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/events.html#discord.on_audit_log_entry

[granite python]

Anyone have any suggestions on a library to use for the time in a reminder system? I saw a few things from 2023 but I know things change, so it'd be greatly appreciated!:)

[lapis dock]

python-dateutil for datetime input
time-str for duration/timedelta input
These are ones that I am currently using but I have not done a lot of extensive testing yet. Overall datetime input on discord is hard. 2023 stuff is not that outdated either, no major changes in date formats so no reason to change things that work

[granite python]

Awesome, much appreciated!

[round heart]

I use dateparser.parse for relative time input (e.g. "in 3 hours"), and it of course handles direct datetime input

timefhuman is interesting, too (it handles things like "last Monday" where other libs fail, if you ever need to reference that), but using relative forward time gives a timedelta instead of a datetime instance (Which I just created a GH issue in hopes they'll fix)

[errant trout]

still abysmal discord straight up wont release their built-in datetime picker

[lapis dock]

Yeah, at this point I might prioritize that over modal improvements

Especially because I just realized that they have it built in to both PC and mobile already for event creation

[sage tendon]

and message search

[real glacier]

hi, why there is no guild in user object?
error: role = discord.utils.get(user.guild.roles, id=....) ^^^^^ AttributeError: 'User' object has no attribute 'guild'

async def on_raw_reaction_add(payload: discord.RawReactionActionEvent):
    channel = Fake_Pompoki.get_channel(....)
    user = Fake_Pompoki.get_user(payload.user_id)
    guild = Fake_Pompoki.get_guild(payload.guild_id)
    if payload.channel_id == channel.id:
        if str(payload.emoji) == ":pmpm_hold_dice:":
            role = discord.utils.get(user.guild.roles, id=....)
            print(role)```

[silk spire]

get_user

You already have the guild, so just use guild.roles or, better yet, guild.get_role(roleid)

But payload.member is also available for reaction add

[nocturne jewel]

discord is having any issue with connection?

[lapis dock]

You dont show enough of the error.
Although if you are on the master branch (dev branch) we removed support for python 3.8, not sure if that is related

[nocturne jewel]

My bots are continuing to disconnect and reconnect with Discord, I think they have problems

[sage tendon]

I'd first check if your vps has conn problems

seems more likely

also, i really wouldnt voluntarily use EOL python versions

[lofty parcel]

User objects are not related to any guild

[tidal pecan]

I'm trying to get a good answer about whether discord.Message.id for any given message is Universally Unique. I've read about "snowflakes" and all that, but according to Discord that's supposed to be a string because the number is too big to put into an int, but in py-cord that value is factually an int. I flat-out don't believe that, in 2025, there aren't more messages in all of Discord than there are possible values in an int!

Apart from that, lots of posts on Reddit and StackOverflow insist that each individual message in every DM and in every Guild/Channel/Thread has that ID number which is allegedly a Universally Unique Identifier in spite of fitting inside a simple int.

So while working on a bot with commands to set up event listeners, I need to ensure that the message ID stored in my database is going to catch the message which was specified from the slash-command. What am I missing here, about uniquely identifying one special message, where my brain wants me to store all of the Guild/Channel/Thread/Message snowflakes and then using that whole chain of IDs to locate the message I'm looking for?

[errant trout]

message IDs are unique yes

[sage tendon]

I dont see why a long number wouldn't fit inside an int though

[errant trout]

just one minor thing to keep in mind: if you start a thread from an existing message, the thread will have the same ID as the message

[sage tendon]

there isn't a universal "int size" really

but generally IDs are often treated as strings because they are long and you dont do math with them

[errant trout]

they explain it on docs

Internally, Discord stores IDs as integer snowflakes. When we serialize IDs to JSON, we transform bigints into strings. Given that all Discord IDs are snowflakes, you should always expect a string.
...
Because Snowflake IDs are up to 64 bits in size (e.g. a uint64), they are always returned as strings in the HTTP API to prevent integer overflows in some languages.

[tidal pecan]

Ah, and the int in Python3 is not limited to word-size. I just finally thought to look that part up. Thanks, @errant trout and @sage tendon

[errant trout]

allgood

[round heart]

Ackthually, int sizes are indeed universally defined. The only difference is between 32 and 64 bit systems

[sage tendon]

🤓

[tidal pecan]

Gezundheit! Python 3's int is unbounded, meaning it can exceed the maximum size of a 64-bit unsigned int.

[buoyant eagle]

is it possible to make the bot send a message when its getting off, and on?

[sage tendon]

off is dificult, on of course

[buoyant eagle]

on, ok i know how
off, its dificult but possible, right?

i need to use discord.on_disconnect()?

[sage tendon]

no because then you are already disconnected lol

[little cobalt]

with webhooks it would still work

@buoyant eagle

[buoyant eagle]

but how i would do it when it turns off, i mean before it turns off

[sage tendon]

i mean ig you could send a raw request

maybe

[buoyant eagle]

i tried deepseek and chatgpt and they both said on_disconnect but what you said makes more sense

[sage tendon]

i mean you can do it there, but youll have to do it a different way than just channel.send because you dont have a bot anymore really

[buoyant eagle]

so webhhok is the answer?

[echo wraith]

It would probably be the easiest

[buoyant eagle]

ok thanks

[round heart]

Maybe on_disconnect, you could reconnect back to send the message

[tidal pecan]

I have to assume that you're shutting down in response to a slash-command. If you were hoping to send messages in the event of a fatal error/exception then I don't think there's any recourse. Otherwise, just put your broadcast announcement in the slash-command before the disconnect or shutdown call.

[echo wraith]

I mean

You could wrap your process with another one

Or have a global catch

Or idk

But pycord should almost never crash entirely

[tidal pecan]

My point is that if the bot is disconnecting for reasons you can't or didn't account for ahead of time, you're boned. If the bot is just going down because you deliberately brought it down for a restart, then all you have to do is add your message broadcast one line ahead of your shutdown call XD

[echo wraith]

Yeah but that's really only going to happen in exceptional cases

That's what I meant

[tidal pecan]

Fair enough. I just wasn't sure what the context of the disconnect was, so I specified the case where my idea wouldn't work.

[surreal flicker]

Hello, I have a bot that is offline after a certain time, but the script is running. However, I noticed that the processor is being used to the maximum (see image). This has been bothering me for over a year and I still can't figure out where the problem is...can someone help me?

If it helps, here is my requirements.txt:
py-cord==2.6.1
captcha
aiomysql
cryptography

I would appreciate any help! ❤️

[sage tendon]

how many cores does the VPS have

because with percentages above 100%, it means that the % is relative to a single core being used
e.g. if one core is used to 100% it would show 100%
if 2/4 cores are used to 100% each it would show 200%

and while that is the case i still think constant core usage is still not good lol
what does your bot do?

[surreal flicker]

only one

[surreal flicker]

Well, it's a security bot (antispam, antiraid, captcha verification, mod logs and stuff like that)

[sage tendon]

that shouldnt be possible given it shows more than 100% cpu usage lolw

[sage tendon]

how many server is it in

[surreal flicker]

Yeah I'm thinking about the same lmao

[surreal flicker]

cca 700

[sage tendon]

might be time for a better VPS then if its at its limit lol

do you regularly run some heavier actions tho

[surreal flicker]

That's the thing...it's not 😭

or it shouldn't be

[surreal flicker]

the most demanding thing is probably antiraid (mass channel deletion)

[frail basin]

Is it a VPS even? 68.5MB of used space seens suspiciously low

[raw beacon]

probably just a docker container with pterodactyl

[surreal flicker]

yes

[frail basin]

Thats what im thinking

You can have a buffer on ptero

Which is why it goes above 100

[tidal pecan]

I'm not sure if it's bad form to ask a separate question while the last one is still unresolved?

[surreal flicker]

what does it mean?

[frail basin]

System admins at your hosting company can set a buffer of 10%, 20% etc for both cpu and ram

Meaning that in reality, instead of 100%, you get 110%, 120% etc

[surreal flicker]

Ahh, got it

[tidal pecan]

On the current topic, I think it's worth mentioning that I run a real hardware debian box with a lAMP stack hosting 5 domains with multiple subdomains each, multiple python versions, firewall, SSH service, MySQL with 8 or 9 schemas and plenty of data each, and that only uses about 259MB of system RAM. So I think if you're running a VPS with a python script and consuming 300+MB of RAM, you're either caching a lot of stuff you shouldn't be or else that display about CPU/RAM/Storage is lying to you.

[lapis dock]

These things are always hard to debug. You should probably add logging to see what is being run the most

[sage tendon]

300mb really isnt that much for a discord bot

especially if its in 700 servers

my single server bot already uses 75mb

[tidal pecan]

Fair enough. Just seems insanely high, even with caching like member-intents, when everything that Discord actually transmits is a UTF-8 encoded string.

Is it generally OK for folks to ask another question when there's one currently under discussion? I'm struggling with an issue that I can find nothing about via websearch and Discord search in this channel.

[sage tendon]

sure

[surreal flicker]

It can't be caused by RAM, because I have 2GB free

[lapis dock]

If you are worried you can open a thread instead

[tidal pecan]

My point is that I'm not convinced that the little screenshot bit you posted is accurate. I'd bet you a whole winter's worth of snow shoveling that it's your VPS Host displaying the usage for the whole system and not just for your individual VPS Instance.

[lapis dock]

Is your bot actually slow during times?

[tidal pecan]

I just don't want to get off on the wrong foot with folks here XD

So when my bot is joined to any given Guild, Discord automagically creates a Role specially for that bot. The role's name can be changed and the bot can be added to additional roles, but those additional roles can also be removed. So what I want to be able to do is get a handle directly on that one super-special bot role. I just can't figure out how.

[surreal flicker]

Accuracy isn't important in this case. Normally the CPU is around 0 to 5%

[surreal flicker]

Nope, it works well. It just randomly turns offline.

[lapis dock]

What do you mean by handle? I believe it is like any other role other than only the bot can have it (and the bot must have it)

[lapis dock]

Does it come back by itself or do you have to restart it?

[tidal pecan]

Handle is just jargon. I tend to mix and match programming terms because I program in several languages. So when I say "a handle" I just mean that I want to go through the Roles assigned to the bot and somehow identify that one special Role which is created specifically for the bot and which the bot cannot be removed from and which no other users can be added to.

[surreal flicker]

I always have to restart.

[sage tendon]

did you check the logs

[lapis dock]

Are you sure something is not crashing the bot (Pycord makes it hard for the bot to crash) or your host is doing something like restarting the ssrver

[sage tendon]

You can check whether a role is a bot role via https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.Role.is_bot_managed
and if a role is bot managed and your bot has it, that has to be your bot's role

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Role.tags
discord.role.RoleTags

[lapis dock]

And

[tidal pecan]

THANK YOU!

[lapis dock]

Ah toothy was faster 😅

[sage tendon]

is the ingration ID == bot user ID?

if yes wolfy's way is faster

[tidal pecan]

Hey now, I tried to RTFM. I just didn't get out my fine-toothed beard comb and go over all the methods available on all the class instances involved XD

[sage tendon]

reading the docs involves that kind of stuff :)

[lapis dock]

Nah, rtfm isn't an insult here it is just the name of the docs command

-# at least most of the time

[tidal pecan]

I know it isn't an insult because you gave me the answer before you posted it. I'm just trying to interact in a jovial manner. Failed again!

[lapis dock]

Your good, you have been very enjoyable to work with XD

[surreal flicker]

I'm just using the libraries I've stated upper and the bot. Nothing more is running on the server.

[sage tendon]

did you

[surreal flicker]

Oh sorry

I don't have access to them, but I'll implement logging and see what happens.

[sage tendon]

you cant see the logs of your own bot?

[surreal flicker]

Or maybe I'll just contact the support

[surreal flicker]

nope...

[sage tendon]

or vps

tf

[lapis dock]

Exceptions should be visible in the console

[surreal flicker]

Idk

[lapis dock]

If you can't even see print statements it might be time to switch hosts

[surreal flicker]

Yeah...well, I'll see what can I do

Thank you very much!

[little cobalt]

How would I log events, commands etc.? I saw some use logging but that one catches every event from the bot

[sage tendon]

i do my own logging tbfh

[tidal pecan]

Are you hosted on a system where you can SSH into the shell, or are you hosted on a system (like one I have a vague memory of from around 2016, but can't recall the name) which strictly and solely hosts Python scripts?

[little cobalt]

Im so close to use just a .csv File...

[sage tendon]

.... what

oh you mean to a file

nah pm2 handles that

[lapis dock]

There are different levels. You might want to try the level above debug and see if that is what you want

[sage tendon]

(info)

i think

[frail basin]

Thats not how pterodactly works (sadly)

It opens a websocket between your browser and the docker container

So if you arent there to witness the crash, you wont have logs.

(unless you implement it yourself)

Some hosts went around this by forking pterodactyl and adding their own crash detection

[lapis dock]

It's been a long time since I have used pterodactyl, I assume it is easy to setup file based logging though

[frail basin]

Not as a client

You have to modify the egg (the "wrapper" around the docker image)

Which can only be done from the admin side

[lapis dock]

Hmm, well that is unfortunate

[round heart]

Adding nothing to the earlier conversation, my bot is using 422M

[tidal pecan]

Any way to get py-cord to shut down gracefully when using the run/debug-run buttons and the stop button in PyCharm? I'm seeing a couple of different options other than bot.run (which I use now), but I'm not sure I really need all the overhead of my own event loop. I've tried putting bot.close() immediately after bot.run (and I verified that this code is executing by adding an additional console-out print after close()), so it fires as soon as the blocking method exits, but I still get a bunch of runtime exceptions every time I hit that stop button.

[round heart]

I don't get the runtime exceptions, it usually just hangs for a bit. I just press stop (or CTRL-C, in my prod environment) twice

[sage tendon]

show

[tidal pecan]

    # bot = discord.Bot(intents=intents)
    bot.run( DISBOT_APP_TOKEN )
    asyncio.run( bot.close() )
    print('bot run done')```

```D:\Development\Projects\voidCaster\Discord\Bots\serverHelper\venv\Scripts\python.exe D:\Development\Projects\voidCaster\Discord\Bots\serverHelper\bot.py 
We have logged in as DEV - Server Helper Bot
bot run done
Exception ignored in: <function _ProactorBasePipeTransport.__del__ at 0x0000012E295DBF70>
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\proactor_events.py", line 116, in __del__
    self.close()
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\proactor_events.py", line 108, in close
    self._loop.call_soon(self._call_connection_lost, None)
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 751, in call_soon
    self._check_closed()
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 515, in _check_closed
    raise RuntimeError('Event loop is closed')
RuntimeError: Event loop is closed
Exception ignored in: <function _ProactorBasePipeTransport.__del__ at 0x0000012E295DBF70>
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\proactor_events.py", line 116, in __del__
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\proactor_events.py", line 108, in close
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 751, in call_soon
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Shared\Python39_64\lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 515, in _check_closed
RuntimeError: Event loop is closed

Process finished with exit code 0```

Same exceptions both with and without bot.close(), also with and without COGs loaded. It's a Win10 system with PyCharm Community.

[sage tendon]

i mean idk what to say lmao, i dont get those

you are using VISUAL STUDIO FOR PYTHON?

[tidal pecan]

I use Visual Studio for work. Mostly C# and C++. I don't recall if I had to manually select to add in Python, but I don't use VS for anything but C# and C++. Frankly, I don't even use it for that, unless you count compiling with it after writing my code in EditPad XD

SAME WITH PYCHARM FRANKLY

[sage tendon]

cursed

but yea unless you want those gone you really dont need to do anything
maybe pycharm ignores console output when shutting down except for the final line

oh wait you do use pycharm

[tidal pecan]

Meh. I kind of do want them gone. I've been programming long enough that every time I see Traceback I'm OCD to read it all. Wastes quite a bit of time when I'm tinkering with function signatures and auto-fill features in this particular bot.

[sage tendon]

why is your python exe in a visual studio folder

[tidal pecan]

The exe is in a venv directory. It's the first line of the Traceback. I don't know why it's falling back to the original installation. Never got into studying the guts of Python execution lifecycle.

[sage tendon]

cursed

id just fresh reinstall python atp lol

[tidal pecan]

You sure it's not an issue with Python on Windows or even with PyCharm Community as opposed to wtf-ever they call their licensed version?

If I had my way I'd be using that sexy SSH-runtime feature to debug in the actual linux environment where the production bot will finally sit, but I can't have my way because I don't have the cheddar for that sweet sweet license.

[sage tendon]

lol

if youre in a uni you can get pycharm professional for free btw

[tidal pecan]

That's not a thing for me, sadly.

[modern trail]

Is it not possible to send a paginator to a channel outside the context of a slashcommand? I tried doing something like this:

await some_channel.send(view=paginator)

but nothing is sent. I added a content="test" to be sure it's not an issue with something else and it happily sends "test" to the channel, still with no paginator. The same paginator works fine when sent with await paginator.respond(ctx.interaction)

[sage tendon]

your uni doesnt need to do anything you just need to have a uni mail i think

[tidal pecan]

paginator.send allows you to send to a channel other than the one where the command was invoked. Not sure if that helps or not. I think you mean you want to run a timer and send paginators randomly? Or something.

[modern trail]

yes, i have a job scheduled that would post the paginator to a channel, without any user interaction involved. So there is no ctx for me to use

paginator.send expects a command invocation context

i thought what i did above might work because the paginator class inherits from discord.ui.View

but alas

[tidal pecan]

Did you try constructing a discord.ApplicationContext from the ground up?

[modern trail]

i haven't, i considered it, but figured that would be a very hacky thing to do, so it wasn't the first thing i tried. assuming it's even a reasonable thing to do

[tidal pecan]

loans you his Gerber hatchet. It's great for hacking things!

[sage tendon]

i mean you send the paginator in response to SOMETHING right?

[modern trail]

not in this case

[sage tendon]

when do you then

[modern trail]

i have a scheduler that sleeps in the background and sends it at the scheduled time. no user interaction involved. I just want to have my bot post a leaderboard to a channel every friday at 4pm automatically, without me having to do the command to do it manually

[sage tendon]

okay but afaik paginators are limited to the invoking user anyway

[modern trail]

that's the impression i got, but i don't understand why. Seems unnecessary to limit paginators that way

[sage tendon]

because it's 99% of their use case lol

you dont want other people interfering with how you navigate a menu

[modern trail]

well nothing is stopping you from allowing that in the normal use case

[sage tendon]

i mean either you write your own custom paginator or you subclass it and change what you need to change
both might be somewhat complex tho

[lapis dock]

Pretty sure you can change that

[modern trail]

change what?

[lapis dock]

author_check defaults to true

[sage tendon]

oh yea you're right, in Paginator.edit, user is optional

hm

[lapis dock]

You can set it to false

[sage tendon]

yea okay but that doesnt fix the whole ctx being required issue lol

[modern trail]

yes, and that's how i have it. That's already how my users interact with leaderboards

[sage tendon]

ahh

[lapis dock]

Ok, maybe I did not read the whole issue... :3

[modern trail]

now i want to avoid having to post the leaderboard every friday at 4 manually

i figured i'd simply automate the invocation of the command, but then i realized paginators only expect a user interaction context or w/e

which seems crazy to me

[sage tendon]

niche use cases will have problems

[modern trail]

i'm surprised this is even considered niche. surely i can't be the first person that wants to automate the post of a paginator

[sage tendon]

first one i know of
:>

i mean the first alternative i could think of is just making a message with a "show leaderboard" button that everyone can click on when they want to, and always get the current leaderboard
but i think thats not what you want exactly

[lapis dock]

Tbh the person who made ext.pages had an abrupt disconnection from the Pycord community. It has been attempted to rework but is hard to do without breaking changes

[sage tendon]

gotta love the "this was made by one crazy guy who left and now its rendered unmaintainable"

it happens so often

[modern trail]

yea that is not ideal. I'm really surprised my idea didn't work. I figured it would work like a view just like any other view. granted i don't know much about views

[lapis dock]

It should not be to hard to subclass and override the send method as a workaround

[sage tendon]

yea i thought of that too but idk how much of the internals of the paginator rely on ctx which would make removing it hard

but thats really the only easy thing you can try