#Another Snowfall stuff
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ah probably yeah
@mild pawn
I'll make a spreadsheet or something later to organize what has and hasn't been done or sketched yet, but I'll be on my uni campus for quite a while today
continuing on my previous thought from yesterday, maybe "stoneshell (petrified shell) chestplate" instead of stone shield might seem more thematically appropriate given its effect?
Whats the name of the og item?
I love the idea of the cused items being... visibly cursed.
Also stoneshell Chestplate goes HARD
stoneshell is a fun combination word, given the repeated "s" sound
except the "sh" is a little off, but they're close enough
oh maybe the stone is a curse, but since it's good for defensive ideas it's used strategically
cool idea
I'll start drawing it after I eat something then :)
I think with the stone color palette established now I'll try working on the other stone cards
oh yeah
stone shield -> stoneshell chestplate (or a different name if you can think of another)
stone tablet is the same
Thank you!
I'll replace
Another Snowfall's fights have no icon, so could you draw icons for them?
How many differrnt fights have are there
15 fights
Shade's Ritual(Summon Fight)
Monch's Breakfast(Sacrifice Fight)
Pet's House(Pets Fight)
The Forest full of Shrooms(
Fight)
Berries Forest(Heal Fight)
Snow Land(Wallop Boss,
Fight)
Blazing Bonfire(Nova Boss, +
Fight)
The Village of Spice Tribe(
Fight)
Foxee's Debris(Foxee Fight)
The Bom Labo(
Fight)
Limestone Cave(
Fight)
The Forest full of Nuts(Chompom Boss,
Fight)
Breakdown Factory(Needle Boss, Destroy Fight)
Grave of Souls(
Fight)
Monch's Dinner(Sacrifice Fight)
and icon size is 135px in Vanilla
You can use vanila fights' icons as reference from here:
https://wildfrostwiki.com/Map
is bootleg potion shademancers only? I could try making a bootleg mask instead if so
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k-DSmJYM802hvOcR6QHBOsuz0jZa62DiPrhUIKmvAS8/edit?usp=sharing
organization
oh what if the ramune (original idea gnome cookie) was a sugar cookie with a gnome image on it with frosting
the gnome bot finds its way in here as well I see
Gnome cookie is extremely good
also working on pinkberry jam (rose honey) rn
Ooooh i like
looking at the pinkberry juice image, I feel like it was one of the earlier things to be drawn for wildfrost
going to try the haze bucket so I can grab the haze color palette, I think I'll base it off of dry ice?
Dry ice is smart. I was trying to think of how to translate a bucket of air
Could also change it to something like Haze Tank
yeah, I'm looking at the things they use on stage
they have something like a little faucet for the "fog" to come out of
I have work soon so I won't be finishing this til later, but this is what I have so far
it does end up looking like a tank
I love this actually
Feels more like a clunker tho
Actually. That give me an idea actuall
Actually
you're right, it does feel like a clunker
strangely, downsizing it a little makes it feel less like a clunker
I have to go to work now though, so I'll finish this later
Thank you!
I can change it to a clunker if you want
not only shademancers, but bootleg mask is still cool
ohhh that is pretty interesting
that's a cool card effect
yeah I can finish the art for it soon
Thank you!
I'm looking forward to that
ooo, imagine this with shellbo
that'd be fun
shellbo won't appear in Another Snowfall T_T
Shell Witch instead of shellbo would be fun
haze tank is finished
Thank you!
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you know, bootleg mask does make sense, because if it's every clan and not just shademancers, the other clans won't know how to properly make masks
it's in all tribes, so should I change the effect?
(maybe I didn't get the meaning exactly because I'm not English speaker)
What was the meaning you were going for?
the effect is just blank mask with random stats instead of the same stats, right?
bootleg mask works
I think a poorly created blank mask type item would be fun to draw too :)
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lol
made the gnome cookie but it looks kind of plain by itself, so I'm thinking of making it multiple (like Gnome Cookies or something)
oh wait
there we go
Thank you!
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I renamed boss fights to the name of each boss because it's similer to vanilla
Snowland -> Wallop
Blazing Bonfire -> Nova
Forest Full of Nuts -> Chompom
Breakdown Factory -> Needle
oh yeah, it is like that for bosses
for the other fights it looks like "The (adjective) (noun)"
yeah, but I gave up because it was too difficult for me
for the "snowbo squad" it seems snowbo is used as an adjective to describe squad
lol
I could try thinking of some at some point, but who knows
all the nouns are plural too, with the exception of "the wooly drek"
pengoons and globerries have no adjective either
huh
it's fun to note the details of these things
so I can change "Foxee's Debris" to "The Foxee" in that way
if foxee has a lot of charms, maybe it could be "The Charmed Foxee"?
cool
I may can rename all fights with your help
just I don't know cool words in English
if I know what enemies are in all the fights, I'm sure I could come up with more names :)
ok, I'll make a list
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Shade's Ritual -> Spoof, Van Jun, Splinter, Junjun, Fallow, Pom, Devicro
Monch's Breakfast -> Monch, Chikichi, Egg, Groff, Junjun, Fallow, Leech, Bombom
Pet's House -> Snoof, Booshu, Loki, Sneezle, Spike, Binku, Lil' Gazi
Shroom Forest -> Wort, Fulbert, Shroomine, Fungo Blaster, Shroominator, Fungun
Berry Patch -> Big Berry, Booshu, Berry Sis, Gojiber, Bonnie, Heartmist Station, Lil' Berry
Spice Village -> Firefist, Tiny Tyko, Pyra, Foxee, Heartforge, Pepper Flag, Moko Totem, Pimento
The Bom Labo -> Hazeblazer, Haze Ballon, Blunky, Alloy, Tootordion, Fizzle, Bombarder, Biji
Pit of Teeth -> Taiga, Lupa, Spike, Tusk, Blunky, Bombom, Knuckles
Grave of Souls -> Shen, Vesta, Beepop, Junjun, Fallow, Zula
Monch's Dinner -> Monch, Chikichi, Van Jun, Groff, Junjun, Fallow, Sheepopper, Devicro
The last one of each fight is Miniboss
gotcha
a lot of them look like they can just be adjusted with a "the" at the beginning, like "The Shade Ritual" instead
I think so
How about "The Shady Ritual"?
I'll put the titles I think of in the spreadsheet as I come up with them
when one of us is asleep anyways
The Shady Ritual is a fun play on words, I like it
I honestly do like a lot of the names. Also hi, ive been away from comp all day. I agree eith foxtinct that a lot of the names just need a THE infront of them
Also your english is still pretty good, dont beat yourself down over that. Being able to speak 2 languages is pretty cool. Coming from a fellow bilingual
"The Berry Bunch" might be better than the "patch" I put in the spreadsheet tbh
LOL
Thank you
I just wanted to tell that I can misunderstand/ make grammar mistakes in English
I'd suggest "The Shroom Squad," but "The Snowbo Squad" is already in game
"Monch's Breakfast" and "Monch's Dinner" don't fit the scheme but I think they're fun titles anyways
"The Field of Shrooms"?
"The Foxee" does make Foxee sound ominous, lol. It's fun in its own way
I'm going to try to improve the ramune/gnome cookie now... It was so plain looking when I drew it earlier TT
there we go... based them off some of those sugar cookies I saw at the store a few days ago, which had an image printed onto them
"Gnome Cookies" or "Sugar Cookies" could work, I think
I will use "Gnome Cookies"

Looks cool
feel like I've forgotten something....
oh! the little outlines on the items
whoops
lemme go back and add them in TT
I forgot it on arrow too π
Hey i had an idea for gnome cookies. Is it alright if i tale a tackle at it?
I can't stop you, go ahead
I just thought it would be cute if the cookie looked like the naked gnome, like a ginger bread cookoe
Cookie*
cool idea
oh that is cute
Dope, again, sorry i uavent been able to transfer many ideas. Yesterday was my first day off in about a week and let me tell you, i didnt even get yo use it cause i promosed to run a 6 hour long dnd game.
I was so tired.
Im gonna try and tackle a couple today as warmups
yeah no worries! I just draw a lot because this is pretty much dragging me out of an art block XP
I also just really like wildfrost lol
Lol drawing all yhe companions i did is basically what dragged me out of it
So i feel that
also setting a goal of at least one card a day is what I'm doing, but I also tend to draw kind of quickly after drawing for so long
I have bipolar disorder meaning if i dont take my meds ill have burst of mania for a week or two then NOTHING for months. So learning to pace myself is important. Having a small sketch book and using that daily has also helped.
Id really suggest it
ahh, reminds me of the sketchbook I have to work on for one of my classes.... TT I'll put it off for another day
tbh I just draw whenever I have the inspiration to
I think I'll use beepop for the overburn fight, since it shows up so much
little guy
icicles
Thank you!
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I wanted to hop in and say thereβs such good work going on in here :), I was just browsing the channels and I could not just waddle by with no thumbs up
Oh thank you!
thank you :) it is a fun mod, I'm glad I get to contribute to it
oh right, before I work on anything more, I'll pass on some ideas I had in case yall can think of something else
frenzy sword -> shurikens
I was thinking that they could be shurikens in the shape of the frenzy icon
heat sword -> spice scimitar
scimitar is a type of curved sword that I think are usually associated with pirates I think? anyways, I just thought the repeated "s" noise was nice
cool idea, I'll change shurikens' stats in this way:
1
2
When Redraw Bell is hit, gain x1
wherever this card is
Aimless
lava hourglass -> molten hourglass
honestly not the greatest rename/idea, but I thought of it since it and molten dip increase attack
stone sword -> stone mace
swords are just usually made of metal (or wood in some cases), and not stone, but maces can be made of stone (at least, in some games, you can craft them by using a stone as the head)
battle potion -> scorchberry soda
since it matches the effect of the scorchberry charm, that's all
wild horn -> hog hay
mostly since the wild horn is in the other mod
I'm going to sleep now, but let me know if any of the ideas are no good so I don't sketch them out :)
thank you, they look all good
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spice scimitar (heat sword)
Thank you!
I'm thinking about replacing Frost Cake with new Clunker because Frost Cake is in Snowfall
Frost Mirror
1 
When destroyed, apply equal
to all enemies
and I added Frost Cake, Frost Crystal, Frozen Drink to the spread sheet
(maybe skipped one line?)
yeah
Because the map generation was changed, I want a new icon for the Toaster Fight.
Could you draw it?
yeah, I can prioritize that
Thank you!
I'm very grateful to you.
toaster
Thank you!
I love it
toaster is giving us a thumbs down because we're the enemies 
hog hay

Yo shortcake, would you mind sharing how you coded this if you dont mind me asking? and is there a way of making them spawn directly on the field like how snowfall does it? Wanted to do a similar idea to them for a specific card
I don't mind, feel free to ask me
just use this
#mod-development message
I'll replace "Shortcake" card with Zoomlin Biscuit
could be a zoomlin cake
or zoomlin cupcake with a zoomlin wafer piece as topping
cupcake is cool
it would be pretty funny to have a "shortcake" item though, since your username is shortcake lol
shurikens for today :)
Thank you!
They look nice
wow, thank you!
and this:
statusEffects.Add(new StatusEffectDataBuilder(this)
.Create<StatusEffectInstantFillXBoardSlots>("Instant Fill Board With CardName")
.WithText("Deploy <card=CardName>")
.SubscribeToAfterAllBuildEvent(data =>
{
var se = data as StatusEffectInstantFillXBoardSlots;
se.withCards = new CardData[2] { Get<CardData>("CardName"), Get<CardData>("CardName") };
se.random = true;
se.targetConstraints = new TargetConstraint[0];
se.type = "";
}));
statusEffects.Add(new StatusEffectDataBuilder(this)
.Create<StatusEffectApplyXOnCardPlayed>("On Card Played Deploy CardName To Board")
.WithText("Deploy <{a}> <card=CardName>")
.SubscribeToAfterAllBuildEvent(data =>
{
var se = data as StatusEffectApplyXOnCardPlayed;
se.effectToApply = Get<StatusEffectData>("Instant Fill Board With CardName");
se.stackable = true;
se.canBeBoosted = true;
se.applyToFlags = StatusEffectApplyX.ApplyToFlags.Self;
se.type = "";
}));
I think you can get rid of "wherever this card is"
I thought players might confuse the effect with Fog's effect.
If I remove "wherever this card is", how can I write Fog's effect?
ok, thank you
snow drink
Thank you!
zoomlin cupcake
Thank you!
Since Frozen Drink is not cool, I want to replace it with something like this:
Blockbo
4
Apply 1
Barrage
Consume
Id honestly frozen drink IS a good starting card
one of why I don't think it's cool is you can use it to an enemy
Isnt the whole point of it being a snow card?
It permanently increases the enemy's max counter by 2
(and it's not a starting card)
maybe you're confused with Snowfall's Iced Lemonade
I'll take a look at the spreadsheet when I get home π
I put in an "alternate effects" column so that if you want to change an item's effects, I can see and help make the item's appearance match it :)
Thank you!
I'll check it
I love it

nova
ink bottle
cotton candy
side note, I'm only getting one a day done atm because of something I'm doing with my friends this month, but after sept ends I'll probably have more time to work on this :)
I see.
Thank you for providing art at such a fast pace!
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love the new cotton candy effect btw :)
ty!
star bell 
Sketched out 4 more items
hey nice
had to fix something lol
Thank you!
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oh I forgot to reverse
I changed StarBell's effect because Gnome Cookies can give it frenzy btw
frost crystal
I can't search up crystal chunks without genshin coming up :(
I have to do this
working on scorchberry soda right now, I'll finish it after work :)
scorchberry soda/battle potion
Thank you!
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It seems a bit too simple, so why not stick a square of paper with a Scorchberry illustration on the glass?
finally... after 1 thounsand years...
Bag of nuts
ill be focusing on these for the next couple of days
at least the ones i said needed done
I can do that in a bit, yeah
Also bootleg mask got featured by Zips
Wildfrost is a roguelike deck builder where you build a team of powerful fighters, as you fight against the malevolent forces that have put the land in a permeant deep winter. You will often have to make difficult choices that can mean life or death for you run. The game is available on PC and Nintendo switch, But be warned, this game very diffi...
LOL nice
lmk if you want the sticker repositioned or anything :)
Thank you!
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demon hammer is done, I think
Thank you!
pinkberry cake
Thank you!
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oh, what if poison shooter was a mushroom bouquet?
also I'm making the stone mace a stone club since those feel a lot more solid
stone club/sword
pinkberry pudding
Thank you!
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I can't imagine but I'm looking forword to it!
I'll finish this up tomorrow
smells mushrooms and perishes immediately
oh hey moondial
Howdy!
shroom bouquet/poison shooter
frost mirror, unless you want something changed
Thank you!
I want nothing changed, and I replaced
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crazy how most of the ai items have been replaced now
since both monch's breakfast and monch's dinner both have monch, and shade's ritual and monch's dinner both have devicro, I'll let you decide which ones should use which, though I am thinking of making junjun or fallow the icon for shade's ritual
thank you foxtinct for being able to do art far faster than i have. Genuinely wished i could have contributed more
lol no worries, you've got your own mod and stuff to take care of including the code and whatnot. I don't code so all I can contribute is art lolol
i still feel bad for offering to help and not assisting as much
if you want feel free to take any of the sketches i did make and fully develop thgem if it helps at all
that would probably help, and again no worries
having a baseline to go off of can be rlly helpful
ill link the messages ive sent then
ty!
Thank you!
I replaced, and I think the icon for Shady Ritual can be something like Shade from Shade Clay
oh that'd be interesting! maybe it could be peeking from behind a summon mask, or splinter's or spoof's
also for the curses "big snowball" and "big shroom," I was thinking they could be something more spread out, if that makes sense? like a snowy gust of wind or shroom spores since they hit your whole team
What if you called "big shroom" Mold Colony? Since mold spores are toxic and all that
Spore Cloud?
I was also thinking to look up some shroom species later to see if there's any that could fit too
unfortunately, dandelions are not a shroom
ohhh maybe "shroom colony"
To be fair on the note that dandelions are not shrooms! I think a lot of Wildfrost things uh, are a lil funky. I think like a dandelion spore shroom idea sounds super neat and creative :)
maybe, but there is already "spore pack" so I'm trying to not be too similar to that :')
I just realized that mold colony was already mentioned. lmao
I might be a little blind
dandeshroom..... hmmm
did the lemonade, hope it looks alright
Hey! You understood the assingment!!
Very demure. Very powerful.
It looks really good
lol ty, and ty again for the sketch :) it really did help
Thank you!
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bonfire
I'll try to get another done tonight, I won't be able to over the next few days most likely as I'll be visiting some family and won't have access to my drawing tablet
Thank you!
I think it can be a clunker, so I'll try
I don't think it needs to be changed to a clunker, but if you want it to be an item maybe there's a better idea than a bonfire?
also the dandelion-shroom/dandeshroom/dandershroom (play on dander that causes allergies)
I think it looks a clunker because it's standing on the ground
that's fair, but if you want to keep its effect as an item then I can always draw something else :) it's no problem
maybe something like just a torch instead would probably work as an idea of "a flame that burns away curses"
or a brazier?
Thank you, it looks better because it is consistent with the effect
hm... well, I'll think about it in the morning if it's needed, but I'm going to sleep now. gnight!
gn!
I see, but I'm not going to stop changing because I think the idea is cool enough
scratch that, something unexpected happened so I won't be driving after all
recentered the fire lol
also trying to think of something that could work for bag of sun
or sun bag
because it counts down the timer but also draws you cards
maybe a magician's hat? and a wand with a sun icon on the end
but since cards are supplies, maybe it could be emergency supplies
or a glove?
well, I'm going to draw some battle icons now
I will commit violence against this fight
cool art tho :3
omg it's so cute, I love the map icons for these fights the second one is so good at luring you in to a false sense of security
I changed this fight, so you don't have to worry I think
phew
I think that'll be better at least
Thank you!
I love this idea
I want an art for this because it's confusing to have two Sunburst Tootoos with different effects.
Could you provide?
ill see about coming up with a new instrument for it
ohhh an instrument... that does sound fun
I guess it makes sense- there is a sunlight drum and a sunsong box
is it?
ye
i tried making a violin with the design principles of the other sun instrments, and it was much more difficult. you could giv eit a go tho
i went with a Lyre instead
ahh
I'll look up other instruments too, I think it'll be a fun thing to work on
oh you know what would work better?
a banjo
Oh your so right
Oh Sun Cymbal's is actually a really cool idea
Also hi moondial i almost didnt recognizr you
honestly? if shortcake wants both sunburst tootoos replaced I wouldn't mind, a cymbal is also fun
Idk if there is a chime item already anywhere but like wind-chimes could be fitting as well for the effect? Lots of em jangling around for the frenzy, but still works if thereβs only one or two
I think this leader's stats have been typed in wrong.
if now, it should be 4 counter minimum
ohhh wind chimes.... definitely a fun idea as well
And then they go ring ring ring ring and your unit goes pow pow
oh did you draw that?
nice! yeah I'll work on some other cards that need replacing from ai and then when shortcake comes back online maybe he can decide which instrument/instruments since there's 3 ideas here :)
Still awesome work about replacing all the ai!!! Youβve been hard at work here, thumbs up from me
Remember to take it easy when you can tho donβt go burning out
yeye, I do want to finish it in the next few weeks though. there's very little left to finish, so I'm excited for that. I always like finishing projects
I don't usually burn out when I draw though either for some reason, probably because I just really enjoy seeing a drawing come together
oh
catalyst could be corrupted lumin
doubles debuffs
hold on
first idea. not too sure about it but it looks cool
Oooo
I thought it's underpowered.
I can change the frost amount to 4
I don't, but if you draw 2 arts, I'll make a new card
I'll decide between the cymbal or chimes then, I think the banjo is best saved for something else
7 attack on a 3 counter is wild
the fact it's aimless is the only thing stopping it being completely overpowered as, but even then it's still super super strong
catapult... since it triggers when something is destroyed, there's a bit of kreggo influence here
once I get back from uni today I want to try drawing more map icons- any ideas for the remaining battles/which unit is most threatening in each? I'm thinking that for the berry squard at least I'll draw all the berry characters' heads together in a triangle, similar to queen globerries' design
I think the icon of The Shroom Forest can be Shroominator
true
the icon for The Pet House can be Snoof or Lil' Gazi, if you have no better idea
I initially wanted to draw the pet house building that's in snowdwell, but I remember looking at it and thinking it might've been hard to compress
I'll probably have to take a second look at it later
oh that's cool idea
probably I can replace the map icon, so you can make a bigger art
oh I can just draw the top of it, idk what I was thinking :P
some of the battle icons are a little bigger than the 135x135 square too I think, as in they're a bit higher, so as long as I don't expand the image to be super sized I can mess with the dimensions a bit
I think I might've done that with one of them already
I think you can enlarge the image very large because Snowfall does the same thing
ye I noticed that too, but I don't want it to be excessive+ I can't test how the dimensions will look in the game since I can't code
pet house :)
what's wrong with a bit of shroom :)
Thank you!
I replaced, I love the idea of The Pet House
@mild pawn is the glass panel just stuck on there or something? I'm trying to figure out why it's there
Thats either glass, ir a shoddy piece of metal used to patch the can
ah makes sense, ty
haze can is finished
YOOOOO that turned out differently color than what i had in my head, but you got the shape right
Hold on
I based the look off of the first ever canned drink
ahhh the first one ever
I just searched up old fashioned soda and looked for an image with the same shape as the one in the sketch XP
My favorite drink, fog
the colors are all pulled from existing haze objects, probably why the colors different
yeah lemme pay for a bottle of uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh air
Bottle of get me confused, id buy 10
Capitalism has gone too far. Itβs all air now. Not even a single chip in the bag, not a drop of soda in ur cup. Not even ice
The Lorax (2012)
Itβs just- YEAH
replaced, I feel it is similar to vanilla
nice
some more feedback for the another snowfall mod:
Making Sunburst Totoo have effect on random allies instead of being aimless is not a good of solving the issue of it being op. I think for a starting deck you need consistency quite a lot more than for the upgrades, so perhaps make the sunburst totoo a shop item and as an alternative add some other countdown item to the starting decks, for instance:
Frostbite Timbril
Count down
by 2
Apply 1 
If you want the item to grow in a similar way as the totoo, you could add
"Increase own effects by 1"
So it would grow with the amount of uses
I saw the new curse idea for time bomb (or, replacement lol)
maybe a broken ink bottle...?
spilled ink
Alternate name suggestion for "Another Snowfall" - Haildrop
"Frost Guardian's Revenge" maybe XP
also also, since the snow blade's effect is a weaker version of wallop's, maybe a bunch of little hammers like the hammer turtles in mario
snowy shaved ice
oh shit wtf
there's missing color
hold on I'll fix that in a moment
I'll give it retain not to make it a worse sun rod
apply 2
and count down
by 2
ok there we go
Thank you!
Ooba bear cute
I made a new count down card, but it seems underpowered
maybe add "Count down Redraw Bell's counter by 1" and make it a triangle
Id say if it did 1 damage, and was count down by 2, i think youd have a pretty good card.
Sunbirst tooto sidegrade
Also is that a new targetingmode?
Could i see the code? Theres been an idea ive been percolating but targeting modes are still beyond me.
Hmmm
I can share, please note that it's so weird way
Maybe... apply 1 bom? Count down by 2?
Ill take it anyways
Its good to learn with
First, add this constraint to display the targets correctly
public class TargetConstraintIsMiddleInRow : TargetConstraint
{
public TargetConstraint[] targetConstraints;
public override bool Check(Entity target)
{
var targetConstraint = new TargetConstraintAnd() { constraints = targetConstraints };
if (Battle.IsOnBoard(target))
{
if (target.GetAlliesInRow().ToArray().RemoveFromArray(item => targetConstraint.Check(item)).Count() == 2)
{
if (target.InContainer((References.Battle.GetRows(target.owner)[0] as CardSlotLane).slots[1]) || target.InContainer((References.Battle.GetRows(target.owner)[1] as CardSlotLane).slots[1]))
return !not;
}
}
return not;
}
public override bool Check(CardData targetData)
{
return not;
}
}
Second, make a new TargetMode
:O this is gonna be so helpful thank you shortcake.
Do you have a name for this targeting mode?
I believe snowfall uses Pincer
third, add the constraint to the card
data.targetConstraints = new TargetConstraint[] { new TargetConstraintIsMiddleInRow() { not = true, targetConstraints = new TargetConstraint[] { (/*Add constraints to this*/) } } };
No, but using Pincer is probably better because it won't confuse
nod nod
I think it's not underpowered
Oh i like that
@native shell
Can you draw a triangle to replace this Sunburst Tootoo?
I think for the countdown item in the starting deck you would want something that's for one target rather than multiple
I feel like you are drawing a lot of inspiration from normal Snowfall's cow bell so that the countdown hits many cards, but the deal is it's specific to Razor's strategy
Because he would be the one who has many units in the starting deck
but for another snowfall i just feel like it doesn't fit
I personally liked it
it's certainly better than the old one
oh I was talking about the old one-
All tribes has 1 more unit in the starting deck, so I think it fits
and I don't want to make a worse/better Sun Rod
np, thank you for telling your suggestions
I uploaded the new Sunburst Tootoo, so you can try it
ye, you still need another sun thing too also right?
also, the sun chime idea from before is cool but the name but end up being too similar to "sunglass chime"
oh maybe bright chime?
yes, thank you
I wish I had hard candy or sour gummies in the house now
Thank you!
I have no good idea for name of the triangle
maybe Sunring Triangle? (after Sunsong Box)
I'm really amazed at the pace at which you draw.
I just wanted to say I'm grateful to you for providing so many wonderful arts.
oh that's a fun name
it's a result of drawing for several several years lol, and it's no problem! having a project to work on that isn't school related is nice :)
is that supposed to be 6?
so that's why overcranked was suddenly 33 storm points lmao
this has got to be the most op starting deck
WAIT QUEEN GLOBERRY GOT NERFED NOOOOO
if you fully remove queen globerry here and only leave bogberry I feel like you would still be op
wait it was NERFED???
its still hella strong
compared to others
Suggestion: make
resist similar to snow resist in the matter of making it be max 1
instead of no ink
I was about to say wait no Queen also got more health, but they're supposed to have that much and I'm too used to them having -3
man
ye like
this is turn 0
you either gotta nerf berries or buff every single other tribe
because this is hella imbalanced
I need to try the mod out more, there's so many tribes it's hard to get a good feeling for how they're balanced between each other.
Except that I hate Jailor.
I should also try...not play the mod on overcranked actually
yep
SO WAS I WHEN I SAW NEW TOASTER
eh it's not too bad imo
although I also haven't played tooo much, but when I got an overcranked run here I only encountered the Consume working right at the end tbh
(I can imagine this toaster ruining your life tho, and it's funny)
it's been a pleasure knowing you
Tooaassttteerrr gaming
wait how tf did toaster swap lanes?!
it hasn't?
ohh brain stupid
brain very good at seeing things, brain definitely didn't process that first image weirdly lmao
anyways a guaranteed kill for 1 and maybe a guaranteed kill for 2 cards for a 60 hp unit on 4 counter in the middle of the row is INSANE
if you let him attack once you DIE
THIS IS TERRIBLE
it's funny
BUT IT'S TERRIBLE
it's like "idc how much hp you have, boom you die in 4 turns"
ehhh I don't think it's quite that harsh, letting them attack once isn't just a loss, depends on what you got :3
being in the same row as Nom and stompy does make it annoying
wait
WHY DOES NOM AND STOMPY HAVE EXPLODE 4 NOW
I didn't notice that, wait, wha
no. this fight is ABSOLUTELY annoying
like i gotta admit it's a difficult last fight and an epic boss battle
maybe when I play more of this mod tomorrow...I'll pass on playing overcranked for now-
I gotta adjust to the changes
but it's like
unbeatable
every single card in here is just so terrible
i absolutely hate this fight
im not the guy who hates the og wf vanquish fight
it's not unbeatable, I did beat an overcranked run recently, idk how close it was to this version
but i absolutely despise this one
oh wait it was 2 days ago and was a hand damage build.
JEEZ, I wonder why I didn't struggle.
HMMMM
Hand damage build moment
it's like every time i come back to this fight it gets even more difficult
bonnie is still terrible
i also got a 2 counter kreggo
nom and stompy with barrage is extremely scary
nom and stompy can also get Smackback from titan bell (if I remember right and it's unchanged)
That's so much worse still
I'll remove Earth Belly and Pinkberry Juice from the starting deck
I replaced, it took a while to code
@pastel tartan
I experimentally buffed Frost Water, maybe reduce the amount to 0-1
oh is it like random
wouldn't it make more sence to just
apply 1
it's the same average but it's more reliable
I want it to be bad, so I don't want to make it reliable
I feel weird seeing a dash in the numbers
βApply up to 2
β just feels more logical to me
this mod is based on Downfall mod, and Downfall uses a dash in the numbers
Probably insert spaces?
Spaces could work
Idk, looks just fine to me
Communicates the randomness cleanly
It was better before if I were honest
Like this
I think so too
Wait
Is it possible for you to mirror the screen
Make you be able to put and manage allies on the right
And enemies are on the left
probably I can, but Downfall doesn't do that
no, Snowfall is based on Downfall, a slay the spire mod
hm
nobody told me that
Why not though
Like why do you only have to look up to already existing media
I don't think curses are a thing anywhere either
And if they are well
Anyways I see no reason not to try, I think that would be real cool :3
yeah I can try, maybe make it configurable?
ye that would be nice
Curse is from slay the spire
ye i never played that game (can you tell?)
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anyways the arguement of "I won't add this because a completely different deckbuulder game doesn't do it" is kind of a bad arguement"
Wildfrost is based on Slay the Spire, so I'm surprised you didn't know about Slay the Spire
I knew what the game was
I just said I never played it
Which means I don't know its mechanics
Also whatever deckbuilder I see people say it's "based off of slay the spire" which is kinda stupid imo
Especially when the mechanics are so very different
Compared to say vamipre-likes
Wildfrost's final battle is named Heart of the Storm, which partially borrows the name of Slay the Spire's final boss, so it's clear that Wildfrost is based on Slay the Spire.
Are you gonna assume an antire game is based off of another one becuase a boss name sounds similar
Don't get me wrong I see similarities
Which is probably what you mean
The game does borrow some concepts
anyway I don't think it's important to discuss if Wildfrost is based on StS
..Unrelated to current argument but i think the new frostwater is pretty cool
Also, I'm not good at English, so I can't handle the meanings of words that strictly
I didn't say such thing
Another Snowfall is based on (maybe meaning is wrong, but at least I used this as a reference) Downfall, so it's not that bad to refer to Downfall mod
Did Pokeniner say that or
Like it's the first time I am hearing this
I mean Another Snowfall, not Snowfall
At least I used Downfall as a reference, I'm not going to lie
Oh
and I'm 99.9% sure Snowfall is based on (maybe meaning is wrong, but don't discuss about this) Downfall
morning chat
this is an interesting idea, but I think it might be too difficult to get used to thing being flipped during combat
I know I'd find it harder to read how the combat round will go if the sides are switched, anyways
I think it would be cool
why does this say "its own"
cmonnn people it's the same issue with og snowfall
can't even fix the damn typooo
im kidding of course but please make it "reduce own" or simply "reduce
by 1"?
I kinda like the new frostwater, even the small gamble :3
makes it a little more intriguing
"reduce
by 1" could make it seem like snobble reduces the counter of whatever he's attacking
"reduce own
by 1" is more accurate tho
"its" is an unnecessary pronoun here, but also looking at Snowfall's text I think that grammatical errors are due to a non-native english speaker
same with shortcake
I'm learning spanish and I def know I won't be very good at grammarical accuracy as a native speaker XP
im pretty sure it's just because of ripped code
I don't code so I couldn't tell you
you don't need to, look at that one pesky guy from Boncore fight
says exactly the same, does pretty much the same except the snow
Ok i can tell you that the code is NOT ripped from snowfall becuase the code is not avalible publicly.
Second:
still, I don't think it's a huge deal
You need work on your wording when giving critism
Because you are sounding EXTREMELY rude, specially to someone who isnt an english native speaker
Id love to see you speak 2 languages. Fluently.
ah, there are the words I could not find
thanks marine :')
Shortcake has worked really hard to make this mod good. And has been working non stop patching and improving it since the original version.
So you can forgive a couple of spelling mistakes.
Thank you
@pastel tartan just to make sure you see. Work on your attitude please.
okay first of all im actually being rude here and i agree
i am no native english speaker myself
i apoligise
i guess i got a little mad because there is this mod we workin on and then there is this mod that has our name and says "another" next to it
and this mod is better
yeah i admit
i been acting like a dick
nothing to say
ill continue to provide feedback though
i guess i will watch my mouth more closely now
I cant accept the apology, only shortcake can. But thank you for apologizing.
the names being similar is definitely confusing, and does make them seem similar
though I think it's generally just the concept of it (playing as enemies) and that the name is based off downfall from sts (I haven't played sts though. lmao)
both take very different directions with the concept, given the different new mechanics that both mods use. and iirc I think one of the snowfall people said that it focuses more on hyper offense/greater focus on frost? while this.... I can't say it focuses more on a specific tactic or status tbh I haven't played it recently either.
I am of the opinion that this mod changing its name would be beneficial but I'm not the dev so yknow
thanks for not doubling down and owning up to it instead, btw. I respect that
What about Frostfall as a name? You are playing as the Frost after all
...i think that might get people even more confused
Frostrise maybe
Anyways feedback isn't always about the things that are wrong, so
- I really enjoy where you are taking things with the curses, could use a little tinkering but overall a great addition
- Yank is actually good now due to the structure of the fights
- Snow drink is a good card in means of design
- Really respect the decision of moving onto custom art instead of AI
who knows
i like that
be adding more as i go
catalyst/any other name you can think of
since it doubles negative effects I put a corrupted lumin thing in it, since lumin also doubles things
and then the block bombs
that is correct, the identity of Downfall is going down the spire on the map and destroying neow. Snowfall is a play on the name and concept, except with Wildfrost being about the wildness of the Frost and Shade Emperor, it's about taking down Snowdwell.
Nooo they don't have eyebrows they are all canonically bald 
berry sis does
maybe Corrupted Water?
...that's smart
so Gloomice Water?
btw that's exactly why I named the mod "Another Snowfall"
Snowfall is based off Downfall, so I thought I could publish a mod that is base off Downfall
Gloomyice has a yike in it too so be the opposite of luminice has a nice in it. What's the opposite of a vase?
What can hold nothing since the vase is for holding
A ball ig. Can't even balance things on it
I'm going to forgive you because I didn't feel it was so rude, just I thought you were a person that behaves like that
i guess something got to me this week, it's not the first time i behave like this recently
again im sorry i didn't mean it
have u ever eaten a sparkler before? :)
Not yet
Retain?
keep in hand when redrawing
@mild pawn
#mod-discussion message
Is it okay if I adapt your Sally Forth's Ink Immunity icon into my mod?
yeah
no, but I want haze immunity too
i got u
Thank you!

sunny banjo :)
Thank you!
molten hourglass
oh what if the new curse that replaces time bomb is a broken bink? since it applies 2 ink to your side
that's a cool idea, I like it
I replaced
snow hammers
thinking about the sun bag... since it draws two, maybe it could be a magician's glove and hat? name is magic set or something, and since it counts down a timer the hat could have sun symbols/sun colors on it
broken bink
in other news, three more battle icons and just the countdown+draw cards left!
who do you think is the most important/impactful enemy in these battles? so I can draw them for the icon
it's a creative idea
How about putting two playing cards on the brim of the hat?
Spice Village's one is probably Pepper Flag
I'll think about other 2, but I have no good idea
Clunk Club's one can be Bombarder because it's related to both Bom and Scrap
I replaced
Broken BINK looks dope
You should probably change "Snow Hammer" to "Snow Hammers" because there are multiple of them
fair
Well, since all sun countdown items are musical instruments. I think bagpipes would fit the most because there's... a bag... in its name
Magic Set is a really cool idea, so I think there's no need to change
also, Snowfall has Itching Powder
a good idea, but since it has an effect besides countdown I don't want to necessarily be limited to instruments or feel like I have to keep it similar to the original card name since the original was just a bag
Oh I thought the bag part was the extra fast pocket so your leader doesn't need to find items/allies in the lumin backpack
Snowfall break a lot of themes tho. Like food items(processed a lot?)don't have consume
@cedar slate
I'm going to tell that I borrowed your idea
ahhh I see
just got cut from work for today, so I think I'll try to finish up the rest of anything needed for the mod
sketch for the magic set, I'm considering cutting out the wand if it feels too cluttered
clunk club has a lot of haze, so maybe the haze balloon?
for the teeth... since tusk is the most used teeth companion (that's not a pet like spike) maybe tusk
well, here's pepper flag
well, spike is iconic though
Thank you!
I'll use 2
and if the spreadsheet does not lie to me, that is all the things drawn for the mod
Thank you again for your contribution!
The amount of work you have done is incredible.
I don't have any plans at the moment, but maybe I'll want you to draw something, if you're okay with it
ye, just lmk if there's something you ever want added. I'm glad I got to help :)
I just wanted to say btw, sorry that i wasnt able to contribute as much as id like to this mod. But you genuinely did an amazing job foxtinct.
ty, and your sketches were good ideas too. esp the haze can, that was a cool idea
You can see the improvement throughout the whole thing too!
lord spikus III
Damn spike looks like a dinosaur in that
Semi-silly mod name idea: Swapfrost or Swapfall
trueeee, since you swap sides
@tardy jewel Friend of mine pointed out that sharp spear is not set to boostable
wait you can get lumin vase?
I thought it wasn't obtainable anymore
The vase has zoomlin, Lumineon maybe?
no, it's not another snowfall, it's shortcake's cards, so taht's just a lumin vase with zoomlin charm I think
Thank you for reporting!
I fixed it
@tardy jewel
blank mask can hit bling bank :p
money (pog emote)
Finally... we did it... the shade clunker...
I'll fix it when I'm motivated