Dark Souls Model v2 (12 Dec 2025) [General/Model Discussions] model_drop

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Dark Souls Model v2 (12 Dec 2025) [General/Model Discussions] model_drop

How is this model?
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[pliant pivot]

<@&1386399863293345912> https://community.sunnypilot.ai/t/dark-souls-model-v2-12-dec-2025/1657

[lusty crystal]

Yayyyyyy

[lusty crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-kitty-cat-happy-excited-gif-14649340657186539906

[ancient summit]

So many models which one should I try for work commute

[lusty crystal]

This one ofc

what your gonna make me go test it myself!?????

[rustic vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/everybodystaycalm-staycalm-stay-calm-everybody-gif-13261191

[ancient summit]

Yeah it is my favorite name

[robust marsh]

post your sunnylink username and password and let us load it up for you

you just go at it blindly

[pliant pivot]

I hope this one is good on my drive to work

[covert oxide]

Sunnylink down rn?

[robust marsh]

are you trying to log into @ancient summit's account too?

[covert oxide]

Yeah says device offline though

[pliant pivot]

Mine aren't loading rn either.. Activating sunnylink boss man

@deft torrent

@deft torrent

[robust marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-signal-aura-dark-señal-gif-2752502943183935479

[ancient summit]

Looks like I’m gonna be late to work

[pliant pivot]

Got ssh running? simply echo -n 96 > /data/params/d/ModelManager_DownloadIndex if youre on c4, or if c3x just use models panel

[woven zinc]

At least you can provide a good reason to be late

[ancient summit]

SSH always running

[covert oxide]

Just casually ssh into it right before work like @pliant pivot 😂😂

[ancient summit]

I was thinking about this the other day

[pliant pivot]

hey now its just clicking a button xD

easier than downloading updates in software panel

[ancient summit]

Yes Termius is good

[covert oxide]

This man carries his mac on him at all times

[ancient summit]

Because we bully him to build models

To hit the runner

[pliant pivot]

oh of course! i have a nice carry case for it too hahahha

[ancient summit]

This me right now getting ready to take off in this model

[karmic kraken]

Back online

[ancient summit]

I did it but I forgot I gotta force off-road somehow

[pliant pivot]

That’s a param

But anyways this model has pretty decent experimental long. Not as fast in full exp as wmi2 tho

But it did get up to speed eventually

Not slow slow like old models so it’s still good to drive in city imo

[ancient summit]

I noticed same had to gas up

[pliant pivot]

It is def a lot more centered than the first dark souls which I think torq wanted to fix. It will probably still be the worst model ever for @wanton blade truck though 😂

[wanton blade]

Where is this model???

I just tried the new planplus, still hugs…… 🥲

Found it

[pliant pivot]

In the model list? 😁

But it’s ds2 on stock

[ancient summit]

Pretty good model does stay center lane a lot better than WMI models

E2E is slow though little too slow for my taste

[broken mantle]

You're a param

[lusty crystal]

you use Termius on Mac too?

do you pay for it?

[pliant pivot]

It’s free

[lusty crystal]

ah

[karmic kraken]

He’s a param

[lusty crystal]

to use it with prime you have to pay them 🙃

[pliant pivot]

No you don’t

You just have to do the loophole

[pliant pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/param-surprise-surprised-flightreacts-flight-reacts-gif-9034411757135466171

[lusty crystal]

Wha

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-6035821429123553976

[pliant pivot]

You can sneak your ssh config that uses proxy command in. It’s just a pita on first setup. But it does work

[lusty crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

I have some googling to do

[polar rune]

this model has now been merged into openpilot main, replacing the cool people's model as the default model: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/pull/36849

[pliant pivot]

its in sunnypilot master as well.

[polar rune]

nice, full upstream sync!

[pliant pivot]

yes! late last night

[karmic kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-monkey-gif-18148847

[karmic kraken]

https://community.sunnypilot.ai/t/dark-souls-model-v2-12-dec-2025/1657/3?u=sunnyhaibin

[candid edge]

Lat was good enough for me, Long I had to keep my foot on the gas to maintain speed and or speed up (still true of most exp long models)

[slate gorge]

I haven't found a model where exp long was good at accelerating or keeping speed. The best ones are still too slow at accelerating from a stop and getting up to the speed limit, even if behind a lead car.

[candid edge]

At the very least I found it went at green and didn't creep while stopped at reds

[fading jungle]

Cool GWM is pissing me off so I'll have to try this on my way home tonight. So far nothing feels as good as firehouse.

[candid edge]

nothing feels as good as firehose
Man same, and idk what they did but man that one was magic

[fading jungle]

All these new models are curb huggers.

[fading jungle]

This model ping pongs like crazy on the highway

[pliant pivot]

on dev? its the new lat tune. its... gross

[fading jungle]

Dev, live learning delay, nnlc off.

[pliant pivot]

yeah that doesnt matter. theres a new tune thats global to our cars that the dev build from saturday introduced from upstream

#524594418628558878 message

I complained about it here

[fading jungle]

CGWM didn't seem this bad.

[jovial yacht]

I just went for a drive to the store today and saw this too. Using a model that was great on the previous build, today it was ping ponging like crazy. You could even see the path wandering back and forth on the (C3X) screen.

[pliant pivot]

yes. We will propose a pr to revert this tune on sunnypilot soon. its terrible on HKG

[ancient summit]

Maybe I should hold off on updating? Last time I updated was when this model came out

Or is the main problem with angle based?

[pliant pivot]

No, torque not angle. So us lol. I’m not angle

[ancient summit]

Oh I thought HKG was angle

[ancient summit]

Yeah I did some early testing and feedback for that torque tuning and I told David I didn’t like it

[pliant pivot]

It’s both but only post 2025 makes depending on the stuffs

[fading jungle]

I'm wondering if CGWM was just smoother so it didn't cause I term oscillations as bad as DSv2?

[pliant pivot]

It has so much ping pong. I complained in dev-openpilot with routes

[pliant pivot]

Maybe. Because I showcased this model on stock op with and without the lat tune and without it, this model is decent

[ancient summit]

I sent David route in DM a month ago showing him how it was making me go across lanes every time I did a turn

Like if I turned onto a street instead of choosing a lane and sticking to it it would go across a couple lanes

[pliant pivot]

It’s drunk

[fading jungle]

https://connect.comma.ai/b18d8435f1460528/000002a2--853bde166b

[ancient summit]

Yeah man I’m just not gonna update dev then

[polar rune]

ah okay so angle steering cars should be unaffected?

[ancient summit]

When he made the tune I remember he said it was for torque based cars

[pliant pivot]

Yes. It only modifies torque files not angle. I guess he forgot that all** pre 2025 hkg is torque

[ancient summit]

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Looks like it

[pliant pivot]

Not a single mention of hkg 😔 no wonder it’s not good on hkg

[ancient summit]

That is the same change right?

[pliant pivot]

Yeah it effects us too

[ancient summit]

Ok then yeah I wasn feeling that one

In a good way

I think at comma con he told me try it again because he made some changes but I didn’t get a chance to

[tawny garden]

WMIv2 seems to perform the best with this new tune from what I have tested

Still not good though

[tall mesa]

StarPilot tune! StarPilot tune! StarPilot tune!

[candid edge]

Damn yeah wtf I noticed my torque toyota has horrible ping pong now

[candid edge]

I also noticed that this model doesn't unwind from turns nearly as well as firehose did, and feel like I'm fighting the wheel when I override, like it's really stuck on rails

[verbal quail]

Something is going on with the latest update (probably from upstream) where every model I've tried is just really bad now. I had to go back to staging with DTR6.

[pliant pivot]

#general message

It’s upstream. It’ll be reverted don’t worry

[hazy verge]

This or Cool GWM?

[pliant pivot]

I like the first dark souls tbh. Just did 1600 miles across the country on it in full experimental going 75-82 mph with no dips

[vast sundial]

I tried this model today because it's the new default (?).
It's quite awful on my 2025 Ioniq 5 (hkg-angle).

• Low speed lat feels pretty good. It is an improvement over Firehose.
• 55mph it could not remain stable on several curves that Firehose regularly would handle.
• 80mph+ is quite unstable with oscillations on a relatively straight highway.