#Agent Smith
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i wouldn't say thats true tho, if they are smart they know to approach in a way where u can just neutral special, and I do, a lot
well its not just handed to me, it never is with steven, he has been a consistent problem and I am using all of smiths options
You probably are just not comfortable in the Steven matchup
It's really simple if you know what Steven can and can't do
at this point i feel like I do and its still not a simple matchup, I don't have this big of problem with anyone else
Buff
Buff
Blame this community
Constantly crying for undeserved nerfs
That ruin all fun a character would have
I cant wait for jack to get gutted because all the casuals cant counter him and then he becomes unplayable
Absolute losers
Jason sucks
Yes
And he's still overtuned
He either stomps or gets stomped with zero rhyme or reason. Definition of an unbalanced character
He's a good character but he's not overturned. Most people just don't learn him and give it time and or aren't fit to play characters like him.
Just got to platinum V #192 for Agent Smith
Buff
Buff
any tips for agent smith, just got him recently
Bro smiths gun takes 10 yrs to come out in the air I cant do anything against harley π
They nerfed that right
It used to be quicker I swear
The batman mu man.....
Buff
Buff
Buff what exactly?
yeah
revert his nerfs that s it
and fix his loop
that s it
Can I get some actual advice against steven? He is still my worst matchup and the previous advice i got before was not viable.
Alright Agent Smith mains, what do you all think is Agent Smith's best and worst move, and why do you think that specific move is his best or worst?
up special, i think.. it speaks for itself
Up special is easily the worst because your only confirm into it is grounded down special, which isn't likely to hit, and even if it does, you can just charge grounded up attack to kill anyway, making it redundant in that regard. As a recovery move, it is so laggy, telegraphed, and inactive that you get hit out of it much more often than you hit anyone trying to edgeguard you.
Best move probably grounded up attack, jab, or aerial down special.
Btw the nerfs were meant to and succeeded at making the old loop impossible. Can't revert them without bringing that loop back.
-Aerial gun startup makes up attack -> gun not true
-Jab nerf makes ground bounce -> jab not connect
-Down air nerf makes gun after dair not true
Interesting
If you were to pick one of the three moves you'd suggest would be the best, which would you choose?
up tilt, down special both normal and air
I'm still shocked that the teleporting up B isn't invincible in some way
yes please
meanwhile Jasons side special is π€£
(also) as one of the guys who designed his move set literally says when talking about his up special "I imagine when he is doing this he is going into the matrix itself and poping out into another space, and if you hit a person perfectly they take extra damage paying ohmage to the movie how Agents take over other peoples bodies/move into other peoples bodies"
like..um so what every character in the game can punch through the matrix then?
Actually Jason's side special isn't invincible, at least going into the fog. It trades with attacks if you try attacking him.
it does have some i frames actually
Probably leaving the fog, but def not entering
its apparent when at the end of it you get "dodged"
it is during the enter its right when it becomes a hurt box (the beginning is still vulnerable yes so you can knock him out before the move) then it becomes an iframe hurt box
just picked up agent smith anybody have any tips or helpful videos
Best is prob ummm up tilt and worst down special
Idk I kinda like up special
Its obv hard to hit but
Its satisfying asf when u hit it
down special is tactical and is meant to be used to set up a combo
Down special with an up tilt is an easy ringout
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high percent easy ringout
low percent combo starter (up tilt is the most common move from it though) or just neutral special if wanting quick damage
Advice against morty?
punish the mudwall whiffs
Is that the earth attacks?
yeah
I just had a joker dog walk me the first match and than I was able to come back and also beat him in the tie breaker, not gonna lie, his sauce made me want to puck up joker, haha.
be careful of morties that use the grenades too (people sleep on those and end up getting blasted)
joker is good
yes his mudwall whiff is so easy to punish now take it from an ex morty main π
sad at the moment, i dont really like morty (or rick) but due to the bonus I "need" to use him. Though im getting use to it now, grenades are fun π
yeah grenades are the only reason i played him to begin with but i used the mudwall to split them and now its considered a whiff when i do
i still use him from time to time its just so hard
I feel that
what combos does agent smith still have? after his nerfs
My god
The jack matchup is
Crazy
Idk if im just bad or
Well I am at smith but damn
Jack is crazy hard to go against
With batman I have no trouble but its a lot harder with smith
Anyone know of some good combos for this guy? I tried looking some up on Youtube, but some of his moves don't seem to come out as fast as they do in the videos, unless I'm doing something wrong.
If ur looking at vids before s2
He got nerfed
So yeah they wont work
Most of em
I think
Yeah I noticed this. I'll prob make a combo guide later if I remember
We should get skins of the other Agents from the Matrix movies
Seems to be every video is before season 2. If someone can find one that's more recent, that'd be sweet
https://youtu.be/C1vvDsZL6F0?si=eWyn7G4hEX8_pyNN I just got this on my recommended lol should be good
buff
buff
just made a smith b&b combo video if anyone wanted to know his combos
can u send it
thx
agent Smith is fun
Bro I'm feeling Smith at the end of Matrix 3, WHY WONT HE DIE π
Lol
Side + attack in the air is one of his best moves because it does exactly that.
I'm curious what you mean by that.
If I'm not mistaken aerial down-b is almost immediately actionable after the hitbox goes away, and can be jump cancelled any time after he hits the ground, which is when it still has a hitbox.
Would you mind explaining this a bit more?
Oh so they did remember to give him the take over.
It just doesn't actually do what it did in the film.
Makes sense for balance reasons, but feels like it could've been a cool way for him to interact with his clones.
If they wanted to give him clones.
Or heck just have him switch places with an agent he spawns.
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Smith has really good air speed, im just realizing it now. Lmfao, dodging in the air and jump canceling the air dodge is strong for almost anyone in the game, with decent air speed.
Any advice against joker? I just got dog walked by one, his air combos are nasty, i wish i had something like joker does
Practice air dodge jump canceling
Gives smith insane air freedom
Also the best tool against joker would be his neutral special, and just abuse your dodge to zip up and cancel into a jab.
Practice the timing for it in training or something
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does it consumes half of ur stamina tho?
It does, but maaan does it reposition you.
i ll try to use it too with jack then
I tested it with jack it feels just as good!
yea am doing it now and dam it s smoooth
Clean way too zip up and land his neutral air.
ya or down special
Yee, if your gona use it to avoid a player try get use the timing and jump cancel right before your i frames end, so its safer.
Its really nice
yea
I wish agent smiths clone was more interesting like what if he stomped on Jerry if he ran over it
Or could sent in multiple directions
NOOOOOOOOOOOO JERRY
THAT'D BE SO FOUL π
I wish that it could be sent in the other direction π like why does it not go off the edge or turn around at all
well ig so it can be used a grab for teammates BUT STILL
It just feels like such a cool idea that isnβt as fleshed out as it could be
maybe if the clones lasted longer and if he could teleport to them (from anywhere, even in air)
then it would be helpful
nah, clone has such a high reward on hit anyway
not a lot of risk for throwing it out either
buff
Buff
hand cannon
in this meta probably 5%
but id def pick up hand cannon for those unique matchups
Buff
Nah 5 percent perk is better atm.
If your going for the kill with his side special and his neutral special then go ahead and use hand cannon.
But if you going for his more complex combos then I would use the 5 percent perk.
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having multiple bullets is very good for his combo game, especially from 0
Buff
Im touching you
BuuuuUUUff
Damn yk
I expected jack to knock smith off as my secondary
Dethrone him
But I cant
Smith is still way more fun for me
Jack cool tho
I respect Smith players. Except the one guy that salted me
Wouldn't mind up special getting a buff
up air does not combo into itself unless you read their dodge
What does that have to do with his up special being awful?
Ok his uppercut is a solid attack sure. But what does that have to do with his up special
So because these buttons share a similar input then it's okay for one to be terrible?
Really?
Not every button is supposed to be great. Some are great others are for smaller things.
up special my beloved
idc how hard it is to hit
It requires maximum brain power
therefore requires maximum skill
therefore making me the best smith
number 1
smit
up special
Buff
I agree
Buff
I agree but itβs still funny to ask for buffs anyway
Buff
more like loud skill issue
hes so easy to counter
ong just jump alot tbh
ah yknow what
i just saw #nerfharley in ur user
no wonder
i agree with the hitboxes
but just jump over
he has a decent amount of endlag on the side special
TELLL EMMMM, also I know smith does not need a buff.. he's one of the most balanced characters in the game right now.
hes around mid to high tier right now.
I say keep like that. but because the meme.
buff.
._. there are characters that get way more damage off then him for pressing two buttons. go back to school man. . .
rude
that ani't no where as rudde as brain deaaaadddddd mannnn
smith is pretty balanced right now compared to other characters so he's strong, but he takes skill to use because of the combo game. if you got characters that do 21 damage with one dash attack input and nothing else, theres no reason to put hate on smith right now is all im saying.
if you hit a really good combo you can probably get 40 damage off with smith if someone plays poorly like bad DI.
and if you depending only on his jab too much, you're going to struggle alot more with smith. there are more tools for him to use in neutral.
it might feel that way against a really good smith.
hes good because hes got options. but his hit boxes are not absurdly huge so he is easier to play against in neutral then other fighters, the only janky hit box is his side special, which i'd be okay with them shrinking the hitbox so it does not cover his body.
if you got the hand cannon perk I think it does. I honestly feel like smith is worse with that perk though.
Also buff down tilt the armour should be instant like supes uptilt
Why does this guy always delete his messages and switch personas constantly πππ
So funny
Idk man
There was this guy
Not u tho
Buffff yes buff
How do we do against Adam?
Honestly I'm wondering about that mu too now that you mention it
why do we kinda roll gizmo
Adam is pretty tough in my experience because he chefs us up offstage
And we can't easily do the same to him
the things i say need a buff are the up special and the agent
maybe the neutral too
nah the only thing he didn't know how to do was finish the 0td if someone's DIing
Just gotta let black adam roll his face in the controller and whiff punish him, also you can use you use your sair well against him. if your good at parrys he becomes a lot easier as well since his clap move is able to be parried on reactions.
Buff
Gizmo is tough man, his dair hit box makes no sense to me, character can just throw that out with no worries. Its pretty cracked.
Jab -> uptilt -> up air
Normally kills at around 100%
outside of that most other kill confirms are tied to clone
Like fully charged uptilt or up special
Buff
Buff
Smith Is the closest to a truly balanced character can't see him getting nerfed maybe a few minor buffs
Buff
Yo chat I just found the matrix trilogy dvds π€
They look so cool ngl
The covers are sick
Oooo. Now you gotta get the 4th to complete
Yk contrary to popular belief
I dont think the 4th was that bad
Its the weakest obviously
But I think it still has a solid narrative
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I was gonna say idk how smith is gonna do now
Good bye agent smith bounce combos... π
Have to see if they buff him to make up for it!
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I will say reading players tech roll might be cool. π
I mean they did hint that characters who's ground bounce loops were nerfed might have those moves returned to normal.
Smith is probably the most recent example of that change.
Still hurts really bad. Reverting the old stuff is kinda meh, just means ill be able to catch them easier when people use the new roll tech.
I'm going to just wait and see whats up tomorrow.
Jab > up attack > Down attack > down special > side air will no longer be true
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I miss it already
Nah its a good change I think even if its technically a smith shadownerf
Much better than being ground bounced constantly
Stops loops as well
I reckon we should be good still
Hope we get some buffs tho
Can i plz have some advice against steven? Been asking for abit
hi, one of the 6 steven mains here
generally try to force him to stay grounded, his grounded moves are super stubby and slow compared to his aerials
never let him get a moment to breathe and set up his watermelon, shields, etc.
nair is annoying but baiting him into whiffing it puts him in a really bad state bc of its large whiff
smith side special beats literally everything steven has
his tether bomb takes roughly 3 seconds to detonate, so you can time your dodge
also if you get bubbled steven is gonna try to time the pop based on the shine on the bubble, so try to spam side to side movements to throw him off
Joker and steven are my biggest issues it feels like
joker in general is just a problem
steven a bit less so imo
steven has visible weaknesses
His cane roll side attack is just crazy, and he can air combo so well and seemingly so easily
his aerials are insane but his ground moves are so garbage
not a single bad aerial to his name, maybe side special on cd
Can't belive the nerfed smith
What
His combos are nerfed with the new tech changes
nah he will be fine
I thought about it, gona still be sick.
The handsome smith. π«΅π
Does he still cost 6K βΉοΈ
His clones will turn around at ledges now!
yeah
thats pretty sick
he didnt get much changes after losing his dribble combos little disappointing. oh well! π
No clue yet
wait LOL
we can kill easier with uppercut into upper cut
if we just catch the tech with a jab
its kinda hilarious LMAO
wait LOL
this might be a problem
its too easy to punish tech rolls boys
time to abuse it
I knew that this was going to be a thing as soon as I saw it π
hows smith feeling this patch
The same. He's still pretty good and glad they fixed the agent he summons. Now hopefully next time they can make it where you can send the agent behind ya, like Rick's Meeseeks
The summon is still a buggy mess in 2v2
I think the teching makes smith better, you can just read it and extend combos more than you could previously
His comboing seems better to me
he kinda feels worse with out his dribble combos. pretty painful, gotta get use to going for down air in to his neutral special
he's probably fine, I just gotta get use to it.
Ah ye. I'm not really a pro with smith. I just casually play him when I'm bored.
I'm back, what did I miss for smith ?
Was he buffed ? I just killed an iron giant at like 80 percent π
nope
jab, upper cut, down air, neutral special, into tech chase is broken, and dumb right now.
I still don't know how I feel about the tech roll. It feels like they just want the game to be like smash or something.
maybe I'm just being crazy lol
I hate that they added back the wavedashing
Yeah, but it's what made the beta annoying to play
It's as if morty wasn't annoying enough...
lol
yeah zoners be zoners.
you playing a fighting game while they playing a fps game.

More like a math game
watching master marvin players I played against just turn off their brain and spam a projectile makes me go. π
Their hands are more broken than their characters
or against a black adam spaming down special while rolling their face in the controller while I'm standing still is crazy
now thats thinkin
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I was a black adam main once lol
I was 100% loyal to that character since he was TRASH in the beta, but then smith came and made me enjoy the game again
Tho I might start playing beetlejuice, he feels so fun in training mode
Principally that aerial down special and neutral air
yeah dude he looks fun! go for it.
If you do, donβt be one of those mindless infinite spammers because people found a brain dead easy infinite within like 2 hours
Itβs gonna get patched
But like play the character to learn and donβt take shortcuts
Is my motto
He plays pretty similar to smith so I'll spam mostly aerial down special into anything
Iβm hoping he doesnβt cost 6000 fighter currency, but he probably will
So I wonβt be able to get him until season 3 most likely
Same, otherwise I'll have to buy him with gleamium, which I only buy with xbox rewards money and that will take a WHILE
Iβm saving my gleamium for any cool skins that go on sale in the shop
The Beetlejuice themed skins for a lot of characters look pretty cool ngl
The terminator skin is my favorite smith one, the only other skin I'm probably gonna buy is the bettlejuice skin for adam
The Joker, Black Adam, and Jason ones especially
Oh and the Smith one too
How could I forget
That is a good one
Btw did they have the matrix Smith skin available to purchase?
Or is it only exclusive to people who did the 30 rifts?
I have the skin from completing all 30 rifts so I canβt tell
If you can just buy it for 500 gleamium, Iβm gonna be pretty disappointed because that grind was insanely tedious and not worth it at all
Welp IDK I've been out of the game for while....bc I accidentally broke my TV because of this game lol
I'm grateful for it tho, bc now I got a 49 inch TV
Yeah this game can be pretty frustrating at times
Definitely the angriest Iβve been at a game in quite a while
I'm a reasonable dude but this game makes my blood boil sometimes
Just checked, it's not available for me so probably no
Dude dying to random characterβs BS gimmicks and zero to deaths is infuriating
To me is either dying to someone who tbags every stock or failing to rank up bc they put me against a bad matchup at the last match
Tho failed dodges also infuriate me
this is the way
Aerial down special into neutral air or neutral B is just so good, principally the stun version
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Anyone else feel like theyβre whiffing the clone throws? I swear it feels like the clone throw differently or something.
its not THAT bad
unironically agent smith can deal with it pretty well
cuz you got gun
What combos did smith lose and what still work?
TBH Smith needs his gun sped back up
Lets Push for Agent Smith buff guys the changes took away some of his sauce and thats just sad.
His Jab was one of his main combo starters and now itβs worse because priority changes. PFG nerfed Rickβs Jab, but gave him a bunch of other stuff in return. Smith got bug fixes only. π
I fully support speeding his gun back up. With the ground bounce thing changed there's no reason he shouldn't be able to combo into it.
Yeah smiths gun needs speed
He lost his dribble combos but hes still good with out it honnestly
Smith Gun Buff please! That gun is his identity and shouldnt be slow, its a gun.
And his neutral special, which he weilds, a gun
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I think they need to speed up his command grab. That thing wiffs so much and is really only good if you can get it off a clone combo or a read. Also, the quiet debuff last for like a couple of seconds, kind of useless.
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or give it armor since he is a brusier
Whats some good smith videos or combos?
well, you got grounded upper cut, jump in to up air, jump in to side air arround 40 percent
ya got jab grounded uppercut, into down air into down special/ neutral special
neutral special is better if you can land it aimed down so they bounce
better for tech chasing
you can follow up into his grab after down air if you want to
then this is not a combo but you go for jab uppercut jump into his neutral special aimed down. into side special. go for this arround 40 percent so they have a shorter dodge window.
its really strong for keeping them in disavatange is you can follow up well.
and then ya basic kill combo is jab uppercut jump/dodge jump forward into up air. kills 90 percent and up.
merry christmas. you got a guide on smith.
@dense lotus also I forgot to ping you.
mwah aha ha ha
i think only like 1 or 2 of these are effected by the tech system but you can still dash cancel to read their tech
its a decent guide
not bad
I don't like going for the fair follow up combo too much because it has a high chance to whiff on small boyos
I'd just dodge jump at them with down special or neutral special aimmed down, if they far away being pretty.
Thanks i screenshotted
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Does jab into gun down still work?
jab into gun still works
but
if you mean upper cut in to gun, that does not work. but its worth going for still, because of the small window they can dodge at higher percents.
I see
my bad for my bootie typin
make sure you jump after the uppercut if you wana go for gun. its fun when you master it.
Yeah hes a lot of fun but feels kinda sweaty
he can be lol
How do you use up special if at all? The only success ive had is on their recovery ill guess where theyre landing
If theyβre going high
use up special after landing your clone
you gotta be fast with it
or after landing grounded upper cut into an up air. try to go for a hard read with up special
read for the dodge away for ether directions
Yeah the only reason i dont always like the hard read is because it swap advantage if you miss
For this do i have to move down or just throw it out
yeah when the clone lands a grab to throw them at you, make sure you aim closer to the ground yea.
Gotcha, looking forward to the smith gameplay. Whats matchups look like?
we struggle against finn for one lol, but good thing for you, that you use to play him.
its all about whiff punishing and spacing with his neutral special.
we beat taz tornato with our neutral special easy. just make sure your gun is not sticking out to far, because it counts as a hurt box against it.
just gotta expect tornato whenever he jumps and run back to space and get ready to shoot.
they can catch on and approach with his aerial pot move so watch out for that if they are good.
thats a lil match up data for you I suppose.
smith is a good character to make players get better at the game in my opinion.
teaches you how to whiff punish way better.
Thats good because i need to get better π
β€οΈ you got it
Much thanks
yesss
BRO THE SMΔ°TH CLONES DO NOT HAVE THE UNDEAD SKΔ°N Δ° HAVE BEEN SCAMMED
Rip
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Thats bc they arent clones
Might be another reason they chose to make him have a bad moveset without clones; the clones would have to use the skins. Luckily its just a "summon coworker" move
he literally says a line about only trusting yourself when he throws it out though
The move description says Agent not clone
I have no idea why they made agent smith like this. Agent smith doesnt use any powers specific to him nor anything from Matrix 2 or beyond. While beetlejuice gets a bunch of references to Beetlejuice Beetlejuice which hasn't came out yet.
How many times are u gonna say this lmaooo
They're not changing him its done dawg let it go
Quiet cry baby
Do not whine to me for answering a question
Aboud26 moveset:
Up special: complain
Down special: cry
Side special: complain and cry
Neutral special: summon insect
Ironic
Nope. Get me outta your head !! Rent free forever is a cruel fate. I dont wanna be in a cry baby's skull !!
Every message i send here i can bet on you being here with your rosy cheeks, rattle, and a cup of fresh tears
Ready to obsess over me !!
dog ngl it seems like your the obsessed one
Anyways back to ceaselessly mocking payerfirstgames inability to make movesets
let hot dog cook hes got somethin give us the move set
Im glad they gave the random bug attack a few friends by having a random bug be in every moveset after him
I ask for very simple moveset changes which are easily found by watching matrix 2
Something payerfirstgames cant seem to do
No agent smith doesnt have clones in the first movie
I do think clones and possession being his main powerset deserved to be in
Especially since gunfu really isnt in the matrix let alone on the agents. They just shoot their guns normally
Really just neo doing flips and shooting
Holy. Gunfu was just something to add balance to the character, and the clones are not even clones tbh they are just other agents that aid him against neo like from other flims. The clone is fine.
Sure he could have something different, but I personally think the clone is cool.
Now if your talking about his only armor move like from the movie where he punches the ground creating a shockwave. They could buff that up and make it cooler like the movie, giving us move reason to charge the move, so it has an actual shockwave on charge with armor or something. The hit box it definitely way to small. Its obnoxious.
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I think that way about most armor breaking moves
They just dont seem to he really viable against most armor in the game
The only time ive been able to say "yeah i will just break superman's armor with my downtilt" is finn
His grounded down attack does not break armor tho wha
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Im talkin about smith here
Yes it does silly
Main point i was sayin with finn is that most armor breaks in other games tend to be more so long startup with some range so its much easier to read. Chun li's spin kick breaks armor and it is something that you can move with
In Multiversus armor break tends to be a very short very long wind up attack
Armor break is very rare bc a lot of them are like Matrix Agent
Bro you were just lying and i was helping you
Both have armor breaker down tilts
Starting to think i need to get out some crayons for yall Matrix Agent players....
Dawg idk what else i can tell you lol. I corrected you that most characters are just down tilt armor break and you seem to be in la la loopsy land
you just misunderstood me but refuse it
In what sense
Bc i was saying most down tilt armor breaks fail bc they arent nuanced enough to actually serve their purpose in time to actually break armor
Agent smith armor break is a problem but i think so is everyones
Sans a few examples
agent smiths grounded down atack does not break armor
his down special does
but thats not what I said was it....
was it....
hmmmmm
crazy lmao
lol you don't exist anymore bye
Bro genuinely get real im starting to get worried about u having an agent smith profile pic but you dont know his moves ???
Up attack: uppercut
Neutral attack: insect
Side attack: jab
Down attack: downward armored punch
Up special: teleport
Neutral special: gun
Side special: slide gun
Down special: request support from another agent
How sad.... Too stupid for his own good. I do pray he stops being bad at agent smith.
Full brainpower dedicated to losing rank
Wait a minute ..... Im just as dumb....
buff
Buff
Look at us... A big group of buddies. We can prove to the world you dont gotta be smart to get along β€οΈ
Is it alright if I touch you perchance
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There just a glaring disconnect between who wrote the voice lines and who did the move description because every line he says when sending out the move implies its just another him.
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How do u even fight superman as Agent Smith
unlike many chars he doesnt
but tbh it s fair at the same time, even if his armor comes way too late
i just wish it could be used as a combo potential
Utilize the range on gun, you can either run 5% and pugilist or hand cannon and armor break
i don't care that it does not break armor. just why is its hit box so small for what it is LMAO
yeah
its like they were not even trying with that move. but regardless, I still like playing da smith.
cool move, ass use
ye
Freeze Protocol is pretty cool
dash attack actually combos into jab at low damage
I would be fine with Smith gun buffs since his loop isn't a thing anymore
Yuh
Buff
Revert the Gun loops are dead there is no need for the nerf on it now
I want up special to be useful π
It issss
Its goated
I know obv its hard to hit
But when u learn how to read the opponent and pull off an up special mann shiiii makes meee
BUSSSSSSSSS
Im sorry
Skibidi ohio sigma
Just gotta get those reads mannn, its a sick ability!
And it only combos with your agent clone if they get grabbed from futher away
Keep that in mind
Can we please stop pretending the move isn't objectively garbage. Especially when you compare it to every other move in the game with a similar function.
What about smith dair to down special is that guaranteed or di dependent? Just faced a finn and it never hit him
Pretty sure it only works after 20-30%
Gotcha, thats normally what gets me. The whole this combo works at this percent so remember it!!
And guess what i dont do
But anyway the smith conversion seems to be going good for me
Buff
Its not garbage tho
Its pretty strong
The thing that should be changed tho that would make it better is smith taking damage
He needs to have a bigger invincibility period during it
it... is really bad
Recovery? Super punishable
Dodge read? Not enough range, too slow
Kill confirm? Only from agent throw, and up attack already does that
it is
objectivley
1000%
the worst button in his entire kit
just because it has the ability to kill sometimes does not make it pretty strong
its slow as hell, telegraphed to hell, cant even blink through walls for some unknown reason
K then
Idc
My fav move anyway even if it is his worst
It's his best move in terms of how satisfying it is to hit π₯΅π π π π π π
Yes buff it make it kill at 60. π€ͺ
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Current opinions on Smith? Curious.
Buff
Lil bro ima send u a clip
k
Hes the goat
Strong A tier for sure
probably high a tier rn but still balanced
imo hes as mid as mid gets
bros just OK at everything π
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honestly dont think i would bother with him if I didnt like both the matrix and him as a character
oh mbmb
Smith has every tool he needs to be the most versatile fighter in the game, however his slow startup and large recoveries on the majority of his attacks, combined with his short range, lack of priority on specials, as well as inconsistencies when fighting small (in terms of height) opponents like Reindog or Gizmo, place him in low A tier for me
made it to Diamond with smith. If I make it farther that would be cool, but I am glad I reach the goal I set for myself.
Interesting opinions everyone.
I am not too competitively versed , but I think Smith is in a good place in regards to balance! I wonder if they'll give him some of his old combos back with the new tech changes.
Just got wonder woman to gold so im going to try out agent smith. Does anyone have a list of combos or a combo video for 1.2.2 . All the guides on youtube are outdated. Help a brother out please π΅οΈββοΈ
jab1 > uppercut > side air / jab > uppercut > neutral special @ low percentages
jab1 > uppercut > jump/dodge cancel down air > down special @ moderate percentages
jab1 > uppercut > jump/dodge cancel uppercut @ high percentages for kills off the top
neutral special can sometimes cause a ground bounce on grounded opponents, and can be followed up with side special if you're close enough, which can result in kills off the side @ high percentages
jab1 can be cancel into neutral special @ moderate to high percentages
jab1 > jab2 > down attack @ low to high percentages
Clone into charged uppercut is so satisfying for a ringout
I know your moves
Dodge this!
and then they actually dodge it and I die instantly
what characters have good synergy with smith in 2v2s do you guys think
Hello guys I'm working on a YouTube video and basically I'm trying to figure as each community what you think is the best and worst skin is for your character
Worst is the bettle juice skin, best is cyber skin and the rest are all the same basically
Smith has no love
Best is matrix skin
Worst beetlejuice skin
nah beetlejuice skin is good imo he looks silly goofy on it
matrix or tooniverse for best, and the cyborg one worst
Matrix one is the best
Worst is cyborg
can the agent smith matrix be bought?
or did they keep their promise
Idk since I have itπ
Bet u dont
i do troller
How am I trolling
Is hand_canon worth it in 2v2s?
I've been using the up b extender with teammates but I haven't really found a good way to use it yet
i was just goofing around
Thanks for all of these β€οΈ youre a legend for sending
no problem -- you can learn a lot from spending just 15-30 minutes in training mode so be sure to experiment and work on consistency
BUFF GUN AIR
fr
Buying this guy when he becomes 3K
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Oh hey a new hot fix patch came out and some small buffs to Agent Smith had dropped
SMITH BUFFS WE'RE SO THRIVING
we are so back
bro said buff one last time and they listened
i am maining smith again
Air Gun Buffs Holy Cow
Yo how good are the buffs?
they are sic
we got new combos
we can lead gun bounce into double uppercut much easier
Buff finally paid off π₯Ή
so happyπ₯Ί
Cant wait to try smith with these buffs
W patch for my man
i see so theyre reverting everything with groundbounce since autotech is in the game which is amazing and can still let players keep their creativity
How am I supposed to combo air gun?
Every time I try after up tilt it drops at most percents
Bro there's no way ppl are complaining abt smith getting these buffs
try dair after up tilt, then down special afterwards
Hollyyyy
Gun feels so good
Good bufff π€©
I swear if this gets reverted next patch because of a bunch of no life losers
Imma be so mad
Smith is far from what should be prioritised like leave my pookie alone
Look at every other broken ass character
Shadow did smith up special in the sonic 3 trailer
No one is complaning abt it
One person in general complained about it
Thatβs it
let s goo
this character has some SAIR
entire kit kills early
and SAIR is so broken'
crazy gang
honestly
never downplay this character
Someone make a combo guide on yt rn
Cus I suck
And would like to get better now that I'll prob be tryna grind ranked with him more often
Bro just lost
i did
glad i wasn't the only one that thought about it
Mvs brainrot fr
He also did black adam down air
The voices help
The voices
Smith up special my beloveddd
Honestly, I just with the reticle indicator for up special was accurate
up special just needs more priority
it's strong when it hits
but you can almost never hit it since normals beat the attack
and you're not invulnerable when traveling with it, so players hit you before the hitbox comes out
Its kinds like the jasons tp
But with way more power
And harder
I use the up special after a down special, I let the agent throw the enemy on my tp and that's my favourite kill
which is the only reliable way to use the move
Charging up attack is better tbh
U can get some nasty early kills
Yeah I love it, im zoomin in the air with it
You have no style and no grace, not even a funny face ; )
Not the dk rap
Look behind you
Hello? Is the game a lot slower?
if you want to go faster Iβd recommend practicing dodge landings
Can we please fix these dumbass interactions with Smith clone in 2v2 sometime in the current year?
dear smith mains
how should i use down grounded???
it s so cool yet i cant find a reason to use it other than a jab 2 follower
Thatβs basically the only reason to use it other than as a niche armor option to call out someoneβs mindless aggression
okay so now the worst move for me is actually down grounded
up b atleast is useful
call me stupid but after 500 matches and more i just cant find an useful way to use ground down
i use it cuz good reads
I mean, thatβs fair
Most of the time, it doesnβt hit even when I do get the read because it doesnβt travel far
So Iβve kinda stopped using it and just go for the guaranteed sair
nahh i use it and get rlly good early kills
I just wish the reticle was actually accurate to where youβd go
I always seem to overestimate the distance it goes
Who's the best character to pair with AS in 2v2?
Tough to say. WW is always good as a teammate for any character. T&J also pairs well with most tanks and bruisers. Same with characters like Steven, Marvin, and even Velma to a degree
Joker as well
You can get a "good read" with literally any move and kill with it. That does not change the fact that in 99 out of 100 scenarios, pressing up B is objectivley you're most dangerous option and just gets you killed. I'd be hard pressed to find a worse button on any other character.
not as early but i understand that it s basically a double coinflip
still i find it more useful than ground down but i could be wrong ofc
also does an agent smith server exist?
the hitbox lingers quite a bit tho I feel
and its pretty big
its his coolest move idc
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Yeah a teleport that functions like a slow moving dash in a linear direction and stuns you for an absurd amount of time is super cool.
Because I don't die for using it
still looks boring
not cool
up special cooler
and I mean
if u know when to use it
u wont die
Right
which is
less than 1% of the time
because its a waste of button space
that isn't cool its just a burden
if this was some old school mmo or something where i have over 20 buttons and maybe every once in a while I can use it for some stylish youtube clip it would be one this
but this is a fighting game where i have 4-5 special moves and do not have the button real estate to be wasting on literal garbage
i didnt expect the chat to turn into this
buuuttt hey someone still figured out another way to use down gro- jk
nah it s good tho, it does need some buffs
but u can do good stuff with it that s for sure
but doesnt mean it should have i frames when teleporting and less self stun
i use it all the time to end my jab string in 2s
Hey does anyone know a confirm combo for Smith's grab?
Down tilt armour should be instant
jab, uptilt, nspec down, grab
its a good edge guard tool
hmmm i see
Hey! So any tips for fighting Jack? He has a very long reach and is very fast. Also has several finishers, meanwhile Smith has to "farm" damage the long way
hmmm i d say to use clone to close off distance and use gun to approach since it s a disjoint bigger than anything jack has, also play vertically and try to down air them to get started
for down air you need the other to let you go up
air special down can prevent you to do that
or even the special forward diagonal
i mean, if the Jack is as good as you, you are doomed because of his reach
kind of, but your best thing is to combo
which jack doesnt have
combo like...? Is there any long combo? I saw some videos but those were 3-4 hits at most
reads and combos, am fighting a jack main @pulsar socket rn
dont you struggle a bit? Or it feels easy for you?
i am struggling tbh, but u gotta stay vertical and punish with side air
most of the time jab is jack's best tool
cuz it beats urs
I think dair and nair special are your best tools at keeping jack out in neutral
Always try to stay above and land dair to start combos if you canβt outspace jack with jabs
i will try that. Thank you very much!
I've been trying so hard to land this, is there anyway I could see it in training?
There's too much knock back from the uptilt to use nspec down
forgot you need to jump before nspec down
Ohhhhh I'll try it
Couldn't land it but oh my god this character is so fun
So much sauce
i can show u
if u need it
agent smit
down attack can sometimes extend off a jab 3 wall bounce
Would you not be able to get like an up attack to continue the combo after a wall bounce?
up attack sometimes has too much start up
but at higher %s yea up attack would be better
I mean, I almost never go for jab 3 anyway
Only like at high percents where itβll just kill
i've yet to see a smith approach me
Oh he has combos ππΆοΈ
Your fighting some lame Smiths
Yup, going vertical vs Jack helped me a ton lol
np
Is your twitch account the same as your username on here?
Wait dumb question your account pops up
I got a notification on an older stream saying you followed. Didn't know if it was legit you or not.
Yup, OogTheLegend is the twitch (:
Hell yeah I knew it π I was like "whaaaa but I'm ass" lol
Anyone else having issues with hits doing 0% damage with a small knockback? Or the grab doing 0 knockback even tho they took damage
Yeah lmaoo
I dont see it happening with batman so idk if its just smith the hits doing nothing
Is Jab 1 -> Uppercut -> Sair true, been landing it pretty consistently
But unsure if it's a enemy issue for not dodging it or if this is actually true
Cause it seems disgusting
It is true. And at mid percents, you can get jab 1 -> utilt -> dair -> sair or other extensions off of dair
Yes it is :D
Youβre not ass π€£
Nvm seems to be happening with everyone
Is handcannon still the go to perk with smith
5% >
what does handcannon do
i never seen a gun hit a sweetspot it just limits your bullet to one
I always found it easier to loop with but no more loops so been thinking of changing it up
nahh i think hand cannon is still rlly good
just train hitting sweet spots
if thats what you wanna run then go for it! :D i'll take multi shots any day of the weak. slightly less percent (im talking 1-2%) and a LOT more room for error? with the ability to catch dodges almost every time? gimmie dat all day. edge guarding is also a lot better with multi shot.
also new combo routes with the gun-jab cancel tech
but hand cannon lets you take a break from always counting bullets
and it lets u kill a lot earlier
and keep enemies at good distance
I switch back and forth depending who I'm up against. 5% or handcannon with the same set perks
For which rivals do you change it?
Handcannon: Agent Smith * , Banana Gaurd, Batman, Beetlejuice, Garnet, Iron Giant * , Jake, Jason, Rick * , Samurai Jack, Shaggy, Stripe, Superman, Taz
5%: Arya, Black Adam * , Bugs Bunny, Finn, Gizmo, Harley, LeBron James, Marvin, Morty, Reindog, Steven * , Joker * , Tom & Jerry, Velma, Wonder Woman.
- = characters I'd switch mid game if I notice how the opponent plays.
If I notice that I'm constantly shooting 1 bullet with 5% and hitting each shot easily. I'll just switch to Handcannon next game.
Wonder Woman is the only character I never switch to Handcannon. 5% is the best at destroying her shields.
5%: Arya, Black Adam, Bugs Bunny, Finn, Gizmo, Harley, LeBron James, Marvin, Morty, Reindog, Steven, Joker, Tom & Jerry, Velma, Wonder Woman, Agent Smith, Batman, Beetlejuice, Garnet, Iron Giant, Jake, Jason, Rick, Samurai Jack, Shaggy, Stripe, Superman, Taz.
Handcannon:
If I notice I'm playing Agent Smith I switch to 5% the next game. XD
great explanation, very instructive. Thanks!
I go this way, except with Harley with the firecracker for push after burning, but i may need to try other ways for some oponents
I just never change it because I love air down special shooting 3 times too much
true xD
@kindred nest u playin smith rn hah
In particular for the power pledge, since his skin was one of the better looking.
But I like how he plays
you were there? who were you?
glad to not be a deadweight for you then XD
We must have played other times as well, I remember your name since it looks Italian
yes we did just forgot to write u lol
Just love Samurai Jack having a jab that hits you from his back π
these jack backshots are diabolical
Smith: has precise hitboxes for giving a feel of control, which is great for competitive fighting games.
Jack: Whatever... π€·ββοΈ
Spamurai Jack
ayo dont insult my foot
Stop sticking it in my face then it smells
My brain isn't working I almost thought that said back jackshots
Wait a minute I'm a genius
Jack Blackshots
I wish Jack still had his reverse grab/throw that way I could have had an excuse to call it Jackshots but they completely removed that reversal ability from his grab in the recent patch
Shame really it was such a funny move to land despite impracticality
The practicality is that you can do it while facing toward the stage while offstage and pull a Superman kill.
If your name is SnazzySombrero ggs that was a close set
Havenβt seen many other smiths in my games so having a ditto was a nice change of pace
Gun
the handsome smith π«΅ π
The main emoji for this group should be πΆοΈ instead of 
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Go in with the understanding your tools are objectivly worse than the vast majority of tools the other characters have so you have to respect other characters that much more. Also that your Down Special in 2v2 is the most bugged thing in the world so if you want to fire it out, make sure to scream "Let's go gambling" to temper your expectations.
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for anyone new to smith basically what you need to know is that up special is the only move worth using like dont even press any other buttons
dont even move
Terrible advice. It's as if you don't want these guys to play the game.
k this guy doesnt know what hes talking about
in fact new players I'd just rip apart the controller and only leave the joystick/dpad up and special
dont listen to anyone saying otherwise im a top -5 smith
The negative number makes you at the bottom of the list. Your logic doesn't make sense.
alright u def dont know what ur talking abt
come back to me when ur a -10 smith at least
smh my head
I think you've seen too many Jokers. Try logging off MultiVersus and giving your brain a rest.
Assuming a brain exists, that is.
Up special π€
Self-Destruct
Very fun character yes
Man Smith is doo doo In 1v1 he struggles so much
No sir, you struggle so much. Unless your opponent is Shaggy or Joker, then in that case I'd like to apologize for your luck.
It was Arya my sair kept whiffing despite my hand going through her head πͺ
They might still have hitboxes to fix.
Dair and sair need looking at
How's Smith?
Neatly dressed
Very very good.
great I haven't picked him up since season 1 π
Chat do u think we'll get any good smith skins this season π€
No π
I wish
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We may get the non-glasses emoticon tho
I miss being able to use the spoon emote free lmao
shoulda just stayed free at that point
idk if smith is a good character but no reason your body counts as a gun hitbox
We best character
yeah then those hitboxes need to be nerfed
What happened?
What lmao
horrid perk
