#Agent Smith

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faint zinc
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He doesn't have enough disjoints though to get in properly

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Neutral special completely walls him out

graceful hemlock
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i wouldn't say thats true tho, if they are smart they know to approach in a way where u can just neutral special, and I do, a lot

faint zinc
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"If they're smart" doesn't have anything to do with that matchup

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Or any matchup

graceful hemlock
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well its not just handed to me, it never is with steven, he has been a consistent problem and I am using all of smiths options

faint zinc
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You probably are just not comfortable in the Steven matchup

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It's really simple if you know what Steven can and can't do

graceful hemlock
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at this point i feel like I do and its still not a simple matchup, I don't have this big of problem with anyone else

dull roost
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Buff

hidden whale
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Buff

mint loom
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Blame this community

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Constantly crying for undeserved nerfs

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That ruin all fun a character would have

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I cant wait for jack to get gutted because all the casuals cant counter him and then he becomes unplayable

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Absolute losers

flint grail
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good

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Jason got overbuffed

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still way overtuned

mint loom
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Jason sucks

flint grail
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Yes

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And he's still overtuned

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He either stomps or gets stomped with zero rhyme or reason. Definition of an unbalanced character

short garnet
uncut forge
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Just got to platinum V #192 for Agent Smith

dull roost
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Buff

wicked imp
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Buff

gritty mortar
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any tips for agent smith, just got him recently

mint loom
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Bro smiths gun takes 10 yrs to come out in the air I cant do anything against harley 😭

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They nerfed that right

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It used to be quicker I swear

late briar
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The batman mu man.....

mint loom
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Buff

graceful hemlock
hidden whale
hidden whale
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and fix his loop

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that s it

graceful hemlock
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Can I get some actual advice against steven? He is still my worst matchup and the previous advice i got before was not viable.

hidden whale
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sorry, can't help ya

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i ll let someone who plays smith in this patch tell u

waxen timber
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Alright Agent Smith mains, what do you all think is Agent Smith's best and worst move, and why do you think that specific move is his best or worst?

hidden whale
hazy flare
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Up special is easily the worst because your only confirm into it is grounded down special, which isn't likely to hit, and even if it does, you can just charge grounded up attack to kill anyway, making it redundant in that regard. As a recovery move, it is so laggy, telegraphed, and inactive that you get hit out of it much more often than you hit anyone trying to edgeguard you.

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Best move probably grounded up attack, jab, or aerial down special.

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Btw the nerfs were meant to and succeeded at making the old loop impossible. Can't revert them without bringing that loop back.
-Aerial gun startup makes up attack -> gun not true
-Jab nerf makes ground bounce -> jab not connect
-Down air nerf makes gun after dair not true

waxen timber
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Interesting

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If you were to pick one of the three moves you'd suggest would be the best, which would you choose?

nova plover
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uh probably uptilt

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it’s a great combo tool and one of few smith kill confirms

hidden whale
pallid karma
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I'm still shocked that the teleporting up B isn't invincible in some way

cyan vessel
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yes please

cyan vessel
# pallid karma I'm still shocked that the *teleporting* up B isn't invincible in some way

meanwhile Jasons side special is 🀣
(also) as one of the guys who designed his move set literally says when talking about his up special "I imagine when he is doing this he is going into the matrix itself and poping out into another space, and if you hit a person perfectly they take extra damage paying ohmage to the movie how Agents take over other peoples bodies/move into other peoples bodies"
like..um so what every character in the game can punch through the matrix then?

waxen timber
cyan vessel
waxen timber
cyan vessel
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its apparent when at the end of it you get "dodged"

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it is during the enter its right when it becomes a hurt box (the beginning is still vulnerable yes so you can knock him out before the move) then it becomes an iframe hurt box

pulsar jewel
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just picked up agent smith anybody have any tips or helpful videos

mint loom
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Idk I kinda like up special

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Its obv hard to hit but

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Its satisfying asf when u hit it

cyan vessel
uncut forge
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Down special with an up tilt is an easy ringout

cyan vessel
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☝️

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high percent easy ringout
low percent combo starter (up tilt is the most common move from it though) or just neutral special if wanting quick damage

graceful hemlock
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Advice against morty?

pulsar jewel
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punish the mudwall whiffs

graceful hemlock
cyan vessel
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yeah

graceful hemlock
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I just had a joker dog walk me the first match and than I was able to come back and also beat him in the tie breaker, not gonna lie, his sauce made me want to puck up joker, haha.

cyan vessel
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be careful of morties that use the grenades too (people sleep on those and end up getting blasted)

pulsar jewel
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yes his mudwall whiff is so easy to punish now take it from an ex morty main 😭

cyan vessel
pulsar jewel
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yeah grenades are the only reason i played him to begin with but i used the mudwall to split them and now its considered a whiff when i do

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i still use him from time to time its just so hard

cyan vessel
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I feel that

tardy mist
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what combos does agent smith still have? after his nerfs

mint loom
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My god

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The jack matchup is

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Crazy

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Idk if im just bad or

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Well I am at smith but damn

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Jack is crazy hard to go against

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With batman I have no trouble but its a lot harder with smith

graceful wadi
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Anyone know of some good combos for this guy? I tried looking some up on Youtube, but some of his moves don't seem to come out as fast as they do in the videos, unless I'm doing something wrong.

mint loom
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If ur looking at vids before s2

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He got nerfed

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So yeah they wont work

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Most of em

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I think

faint zinc
uncut forge
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We should get skins of the other Agents from the Matrix movies

graceful wadi
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Seems to be every video is before season 2. If someone can find one that's more recent, that'd be sweet

mint loom
dull roost
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buff

mint loom
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buff

faint zinc
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just made a smith b&b combo video if anyone wanted to know his combos

hidden whale
warped quarry
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agent Smith is fun

warped quarry
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Bro I'm feeling Smith at the end of Matrix 3, WHY WONT HE DIE πŸ’€

uncut forge
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Lol

onyx sequoia
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If I'm not mistaken aerial down-b is almost immediately actionable after the hitbox goes away, and can be jump cancelled any time after he hits the ground, which is when it still has a hitbox.
Would you mind explaining this a bit more?

onyx sequoia
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It just doesn't actually do what it did in the film.

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Makes sense for balance reasons, but feels like it could've been a cool way for him to interact with his clones.

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If they wanted to give him clones.

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Or heck just have him switch places with an agent he spawns.

dull roost
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Buff

dull roost
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Smith has really good air speed, im just realizing it now. Lmfao, dodging in the air and jump canceling the air dodge is strong for almost anyone in the game, with decent air speed.

graceful hemlock
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Any advice against joker? I just got dog walked by one, his air combos are nasty, i wish i had something like joker does

dull roost
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Gives smith insane air freedom

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Also the best tool against joker would be his neutral special, and just abuse your dodge to zip up and cancel into a jab.

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Practice the timing for it in training or something

dull roost
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Buff

hidden whale
dull roost
hidden whale
dull roost
hidden whale
dull roost
hidden whale
dull roost
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Its really nice

lyric orchid
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I wish agent smiths clone was more interesting like what if he stomped on Jerry if he ran over it

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Or could sent in multiple directions

warped quarry
warped quarry
lyric orchid
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It just feels like such a cool idea that isn’t as fleshed out as it could be

warped quarry
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maybe if the clones lasted longer and if he could teleport to them (from anywhere, even in air)
then it would be helpful

pallid karma
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Honestly make the clones able to run through projectiles

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Make them better πŸ‘Ή

hazy flare
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nah, clone has such a high reward on hit anyway

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not a lot of risk for throwing it out either

dull roost
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buff

mint loom
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Buff

flint grail
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how on earth do I improve

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I just got steamrolled by another smith on ranked

prisma bloom
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yo

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im new to smith

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whats his best perk?

flint grail
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hand cannon

faint zinc
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but id def pick up hand cannon for those unique matchups

dull roost
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Buff

dull roost
flint grail
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I prefer hand cannon

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Multibullet just feels weak

dull roost
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If your going for the kill with his side special and his neutral special then go ahead and use hand cannon.

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But if you going for his more complex combos then I would use the 5 percent perk.

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🫡😎

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πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

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πŸ’ͺ

hazy flare
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having multiple bullets is very good for his combo game, especially from 0

dull roost
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Buff

mint loom
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Im touching you

dull roost
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BuuuuUUUff

mint loom
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Damn yk

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I expected jack to knock smith off as my secondary

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Dethrone him

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But I cant

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Smith is still way more fun for me

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Jack cool tho

short garnet
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I respect Smith players. Except the one guy that salted me

smoky kelp
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Wouldn't mind up special getting a buff

hazy flare
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up air does not combo into itself unless you read their dodge

shell tendon
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What does that have to do with his up special being awful?

shell tendon
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Ok his uppercut is a solid attack sure. But what does that have to do with his up special

shell tendon
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So because these buttons share a similar input then it's okay for one to be terrible?

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Really?

short garnet
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Not every button is supposed to be great. Some are great others are for smaller things.

mint loom
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up special my beloved

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idc how hard it is to hit

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It requires maximum brain power

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therefore requires maximum skill

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therefore making me the best smith

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number 1

ancient hollow
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smit

mint loom
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up special

dull roost
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Buff

languid iris
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hell no

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hes in a good spot rn

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takes skill

short garnet
dull roost
wicked imp
mint loom
languid iris
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more like loud skill issue

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hes so easy to counter

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ong just jump alot tbh

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ah yknow what

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i just saw #nerfharley in ur user

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no wonder

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i agree with the hitboxes

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but just jump over

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he has a decent amount of endlag on the side special

mint loom
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Lmao

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He does

dull roost
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hes around mid to high tier right now.

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I say keep like that. but because the meme.

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buff.

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._. there are characters that get way more damage off then him for pressing two buttons. go back to school man. . .

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rude

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that ani't no where as rudde as brain deaaaadddddd mannnn

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smith is pretty balanced right now compared to other characters so he's strong, but he takes skill to use because of the combo game. if you got characters that do 21 damage with one dash attack input and nothing else, theres no reason to put hate on smith right now is all im saying.

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if you hit a really good combo you can probably get 40 damage off with smith if someone plays poorly like bad DI.

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and if you depending only on his jab too much, you're going to struggle alot more with smith. there are more tools for him to use in neutral.

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it might feel that way against a really good smith.

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hes good because hes got options. but his hit boxes are not absurdly huge so he is easier to play against in neutral then other fighters, the only janky hit box is his side special, which i'd be okay with them shrinking the hitbox so it does not cover his body.

dull roost
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if you got the hand cannon perk I think it does. I honestly feel like smith is worse with that perk though.

smoky kelp
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Also buff down tilt the armour should be instant like supes uptilt

mint loom
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Why does this guy always delete his messages and switch personas constantly 😭😭😭

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So funny

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Idk man

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There was this guy

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Not u tho

dull roost
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Buff

mint loom
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He did it again 😭

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Makin me look like a schizo

dull roost
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LOL

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Buff buuuff

mint loom
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Buffff yes buff

deft glacier
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How do we do against Adam?

pallid karma
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Honestly I'm wondering about that mu too now that you mention it

flint grail
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why do we kinda roll gizmo

hazy flare
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Adam is pretty tough in my experience because he chefs us up offstage

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And we can't easily do the same to him

faint zinc
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The gizmo you played probably sucks

warped quarry
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the things i say need a buff are the up special and the agent

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maybe the neutral too

flint grail
dull roost
# deft glacier How do we do against Adam?

Just gotta let black adam roll his face in the controller and whiff punish him, also you can use you use your sair well against him. if your good at parrys he becomes a lot easier as well since his clap move is able to be parried on reactions.

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Buff

dull roost
inner plaza
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how do you kill with smith

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or do anything other than dodge and jab

nova plover
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Jab -> uptilt -> up air

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Normally kills at around 100%

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outside of that most other kill confirms are tied to clone

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Like fully charged uptilt or up special

dull roost
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Buff

late briar
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Buff

mint loom
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If smith gets nerfed imma hunt everyone down

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Everyone

smoky kelp
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Smith Is the closest to a truly balanced character can't see him getting nerfed maybe a few minor buffs

mint loom
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Never know

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I wasnt expecting LEBRON to get nerfed last patch but here we are

dull roost
mint loom
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Yo chat I just found the matrix trilogy dvds πŸ€‘

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They look so cool ngl

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The covers are sick

uncut forge
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Oooo. Now you gotta get the 4th to complete

mint loom
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Yk contrary to popular belief

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I dont think the 4th was that bad

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Its the weakest obviously

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But I think it still has a solid narrative

dull roost
mint loom
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Its over for us

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Auto tech

lime vale
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I was gonna say idk how smith is gonna do now

dull roost
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Have to see if they buff him to make up for it!

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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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I will say reading players tech roll might be cool. 😌

dreamy zodiac
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I mean they did hint that characters who's ground bounce loops were nerfed might have those moves returned to normal.

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Smith is probably the most recent example of that change.

dull roost
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Still hurts really bad. Reverting the old stuff is kinda meh, just means ill be able to catch them easier when people use the new roll tech.

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I'm going to just wait and see whats up tomorrow.

thin phoenix
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Jab > up attack > Down attack > down special > side air will no longer be true

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😭

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I miss it already

mint loom
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Much better than being ground bounced constantly

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Stops loops as well

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I reckon we should be good still

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Hope we get some buffs tho

dull roost
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yeah it is a good change

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I just don't like the word "auto." for a tech roll.

mint loom
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Lol

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Prob cause its like

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Auto

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Does it by itself

graceful hemlock
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Can i plz have some advice against steven? Been asking for abit

inner plaza
# graceful hemlock Can i plz have some advice against steven? Been asking for abit

hi, one of the 6 steven mains here
generally try to force him to stay grounded, his grounded moves are super stubby and slow compared to his aerials
never let him get a moment to breathe and set up his watermelon, shields, etc.
nair is annoying but baiting him into whiffing it puts him in a really bad state bc of its large whiff
smith side special beats literally everything steven has

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his tether bomb takes roughly 3 seconds to detonate, so you can time your dodge
also if you get bubbled steven is gonna try to time the pop based on the shine on the bubble, so try to spam side to side movements to throw him off

graceful hemlock
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Joker and steven are my biggest issues it feels like

inner plaza
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joker in general is just a problem

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steven a bit less so imo

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steven has visible weaknesses

graceful hemlock
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His cane roll side attack is just crazy, and he can air combo so well and seemingly so easily

inner plaza
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his aerials are insane but his ground moves are so garbage

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not a single bad aerial to his name, maybe side special on cd

smoky kelp
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Can't belive the nerfed smith

mint loom
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What

smoky kelp
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His combos are nerfed with the new tech changes

dull roost
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I thought about it, gona still be sick.

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The handsome smith. 🫡😎

pallid karma
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Does he still cost 6K ☹️

uncut forge
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His clones will turn around at ledges now!

dull roost
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yeah

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thats pretty sick

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he didnt get much changes after losing his dribble combos little disappointing. oh well! πŸ™ƒ

dull roost
dull roost
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wait LOL

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we can kill easier with uppercut into upper cut

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if we just catch the tech with a jab

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its kinda hilarious LMAO

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wait LOL

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this might be a problem

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its too easy to punish tech rolls boys

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time to abuse it

pallid karma
stark anvil
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Indirect Smith buff??

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I'll take what I can get.

glossy bough
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hows smith feeling this patch

long grove
shell tendon
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The summon is still a buggy mess in 2v2

untold sparrow
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I think the teching makes smith better, you can just read it and extend combos more than you could previously

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His comboing seems better to me

dull roost
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he's probably fine, I just gotta get use to it.

long grove
mint loom
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He's my secondary but I suck so bad with him idk

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I love smith tho

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Smith supremacy

dull roost
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buff

hasty timber
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I'm back, what did I miss for smith ?

dull roost
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no more dribble combo

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tech roll combo

hasty timber
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Was he buffed ? I just killed an iron giant at like 80 percent πŸ’€

dull roost
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jab, upper cut, down air, neutral special, into tech chase is broken, and dumb right now.

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I still don't know how I feel about the tech roll. It feels like they just want the game to be like smash or something.

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maybe I'm just being crazy lol

hasty timber
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I hate that they added back the wavedashing

dull roost
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its not that bad

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in fact its kinda bootie

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compared to how it was

hasty timber
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Yeah, but it's what made the beta annoying to play

dull roost
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its really slow compared to beta

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and cost dodge gauge

hasty timber
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It's as if morty wasn't annoying enough...

dull roost
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lol

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yeah zoners be zoners.

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you playing a fighting game while they playing a fps game.

hasty timber
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More like a math game

dull roost
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watching master marvin players I played against just turn off their brain and spam a projectile makes me go. πŸ˜€

hasty timber
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Their hands are more broken than their characters

dull roost
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or against a black adam spaming down special while rolling their face in the controller while I'm standing still is crazy

dull roost
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πŸ’€

hasty timber
dull roost
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yeah I played him alot once too lmao

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he is fun

hasty timber
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I was 100% loyal to that character since he was TRASH in the beta, but then smith came and made me enjoy the game again

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Tho I might start playing beetlejuice, he feels so fun in training mode

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Principally that aerial down special and neutral air

dull roost
wicked imp
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It’s gonna get patched

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But like play the character to learn and don’t take shortcuts

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Is my motto

hasty timber
wicked imp
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I’m hoping he doesn’t cost 6000 fighter currency, but he probably will

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So I won’t be able to get him until season 3 most likely

hasty timber
wicked imp
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I’m saving my gleamium for any cool skins that go on sale in the shop

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The Beetlejuice themed skins for a lot of characters look pretty cool ngl

hasty timber
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The terminator skin is my favorite smith one, the only other skin I'm probably gonna buy is the bettlejuice skin for adam

wicked imp
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The Joker, Black Adam, and Jason ones especially

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Oh and the Smith one too

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How could I forget

wicked imp
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Btw did they have the matrix Smith skin available to purchase?

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Or is it only exclusive to people who did the 30 rifts?

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I have the skin from completing all 30 rifts so I can’t tell

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If you can just buy it for 500 gleamium, I’m gonna be pretty disappointed because that grind was insanely tedious and not worth it at all

hasty timber
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Welp IDK I've been out of the game for while....bc I accidentally broke my TV because of this game lol

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I'm grateful for it tho, bc now I got a 49 inch TV

wicked imp
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Yeah this game can be pretty frustrating at times

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Definitely the angriest I’ve been at a game in quite a while

hasty timber
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I'm a reasonable dude but this game makes my blood boil sometimes

hasty timber
wicked imp
hasty timber
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To me is either dying to someone who tbags every stock or failing to rank up bc they put me against a bad matchup at the last match

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Tho failed dodges also infuriate me

hasty timber
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Aerial down special into neutral air or neutral B is just so good, principally the stun version

dull roost
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😎

crimson robin
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Anyone else feel like they’re whiffing the clone throws? I swear it feels like the clone throw differently or something.

glossy bough
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unironically agent smith can deal with it pretty well

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cuz you got gun

dull roost
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Yeah he can never said he can't.

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🀨

graceful hemlock
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What combos did smith lose and what still work?

zenith mulch
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TBH Smith needs his gun sped back up

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Lets Push for Agent Smith buff guys the changes took away some of his sauce and thats just sad.

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His Jab was one of his main combo starters and now it’s worse because priority changes. PFG nerfed Rick’s Jab, but gave him a bunch of other stuff in return. Smith got bug fixes only. πŸ™ƒ

crimson robin
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I fully support speeding his gun back up. With the ground bounce thing changed there's no reason he shouldn't be able to combo into it.

mint loom
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Yeah smiths gun needs speed

dull roost
zenith mulch
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Smith Gun Buff please! That gun is his identity and shouldnt be slow, its a gun.

long grove
zenith mulch
long grove
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πŸ₯„πŸ”«πŸ˜Ž

crimson robin
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I think they need to speed up his command grab. That thing wiffs so much and is really only good if you can get it off a clone combo or a read. Also, the quiet debuff last for like a couple of seconds, kind of useless.

dull roost
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😎

dull roost
dense lotus
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Whats some good smith videos or combos?

dull roost
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well, you got grounded upper cut, jump in to up air, jump in to side air arround 40 percent

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ya got jab grounded uppercut, into down air into down special/ neutral special

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neutral special is better if you can land it aimed down so they bounce

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better for tech chasing

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you can follow up into his grab after down air if you want to

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then this is not a combo but you go for jab uppercut jump into his neutral special aimed down. into side special. go for this arround 40 percent so they have a shorter dodge window.

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its really strong for keeping them in disavatange is you can follow up well.

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and then ya basic kill combo is jab uppercut jump/dodge jump forward into up air. kills 90 percent and up.

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merry christmas. you got a guide on smith.

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@dense lotus also I forgot to ping you.

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mwah aha ha ha

faint zinc
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i think only like 1 or 2 of these are effected by the tech system but you can still dash cancel to read their tech

dull roost
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its a decent guide

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not bad

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I don't like going for the fair follow up combo too much because it has a high chance to whiff on small boyos

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I'd just dodge jump at them with down special or neutral special aimmed down, if they far away being pretty.

dense lotus
dull roost
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🫡 😎

dense lotus
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Does jab into gun down still work?

dull roost
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jab into gun still works

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but

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if you mean upper cut in to gun, that does not work. but its worth going for still, because of the small window they can dodge at higher percents.

dense lotus
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I see

dull roost
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my bad for my bootie typin

dense lotus
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I think i want to switch to smith from finn, i have more fun with him

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No worries

dull roost
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make sure you jump after the uppercut if you wana go for gun. its fun when you master it.

dense lotus
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Yeah hes a lot of fun but feels kinda sweaty

dull roost
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he can be lol

dense lotus
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How do you use up special if at all? The only success ive had is on their recovery ill guess where theyre landing

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If they’re going high

dull roost
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use up special after landing your clone

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you gotta be fast with it

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or after landing grounded upper cut into an up air. try to go for a hard read with up special

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read for the dodge away for ether directions

dense lotus
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Yeah the only reason i dont always like the hard read is because it swap advantage if you miss

dense lotus
dull roost
dense lotus
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Gotcha, looking forward to the smith gameplay. Whats matchups look like?

dull roost
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we struggle against finn for one lol, but good thing for you, that you use to play him.

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its all about whiff punishing and spacing with his neutral special.

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we beat taz tornato with our neutral special easy. just make sure your gun is not sticking out to far, because it counts as a hurt box against it.

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just gotta expect tornato whenever he jumps and run back to space and get ready to shoot.

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they can catch on and approach with his aerial pot move so watch out for that if they are good.

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thats a lil match up data for you I suppose.

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smith is a good character to make players get better at the game in my opinion.

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teaches you how to whiff punish way better.

dense lotus
dull roost
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❀️ you got it

dense lotus
full harbor
#

BRO THE SMΔ°TH CLONES DO NOT HAVE THE UNDEAD SKΔ°N Δ° HAVE BEEN SCAMMED

wicked imp
#

Rip

modern salmon
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Thats bc they arent clones

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Might be another reason they chose to make him have a bad moveset without clones; the clones would have to use the skins. Luckily its just a "summon coworker" move

shell tendon
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he literally says a line about only trusting yourself when he throws it out though

modern salmon
#

The move description says Agent not clone

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I have no idea why they made agent smith like this. Agent smith doesnt use any powers specific to him nor anything from Matrix 2 or beyond. While beetlejuice gets a bunch of references to Beetlejuice Beetlejuice which hasn't came out yet.

mint loom
#

How many times are u gonna say this lmaooo

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They're not changing him its done dawg let it go

modern salmon
#

Quiet cry baby

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Do not whine to me for answering a question

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Aboud26 moveset:
Up special: complain
Down special: cry
Side special: complain and cry
Neutral special: summon insect

mint loom
modern salmon
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Nope. Get me outta your head !! Rent free forever is a cruel fate. I dont wanna be in a cry baby's skull !!

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Every message i send here i can bet on you being here with your rosy cheeks, rattle, and a cup of fresh tears

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Ready to obsess over me !!

nova plover
#

dog ngl it seems like your the obsessed one

mint loom
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Lmao

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So funny

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Such a funny guy

modern salmon
#

Anyways back to ceaselessly mocking payerfirstgames inability to make movesets

ancient hollow
#

let hot dog cook hes got somethin give us the move set

modern salmon
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Im glad they gave the random bug attack a few friends by having a random bug be in every moveset after him

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I ask for very simple moveset changes which are easily found by watching matrix 2

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Something payerfirstgames cant seem to do

ancient hollow
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what do you suggest... millions of smiths

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or was that the first movie

modern salmon
#

No agent smith doesnt have clones in the first movie

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I do think clones and possession being his main powerset deserved to be in

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Especially since gunfu really isnt in the matrix let alone on the agents. They just shoot their guns normally

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Really just neo doing flips and shooting

dull roost
#

Holy. Gunfu was just something to add balance to the character, and the clones are not even clones tbh they are just other agents that aid him against neo like from other flims. The clone is fine.

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Sure he could have something different, but I personally think the clone is cool.

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Now if your talking about his only armor move like from the movie where he punches the ground creating a shockwave. They could buff that up and make it cooler like the movie, giving us move reason to charge the move, so it has an actual shockwave on charge with armor or something. The hit box it definitely way to small. Its obnoxious.

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πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

modern salmon
#

I think that way about most armor breaking moves

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They just dont seem to he really viable against most armor in the game

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The only time ive been able to say "yeah i will just break superman's armor with my downtilt" is finn

dull roost
#

His grounded down attack does not break armor tho wha

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🀨

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Im talkin about smith here

modern salmon
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Yes it does silly

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Main point i was sayin with finn is that most armor breaks in other games tend to be more so long startup with some range so its much easier to read. Chun li's spin kick breaks armor and it is something that you can move with

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In Multiversus armor break tends to be a very short very long wind up attack

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Armor break is very rare bc a lot of them are like Matrix Agent

dull roost
#

dude is not listening lol

modern salmon
#

Bro you were just lying and i was helping you

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Both have armor breaker down tilts

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Starting to think i need to get out some crayons for yall Matrix Agent players....

dull roost
#

huh

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you weird man lol

modern salmon
#

Dawg idk what else i can tell you lol. I corrected you that most characters are just down tilt armor break and you seem to be in la la loopsy land

dull roost
#

you just misunderstood me but refuse it

modern salmon
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In what sense

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Bc i was saying most down tilt armor breaks fail bc they arent nuanced enough to actually serve their purpose in time to actually break armor

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Agent smith armor break is a problem but i think so is everyones

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Sans a few examples

dull roost
#

agent smiths grounded down atack does not break armor

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his down special does

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but thats not what I said was it....

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was it....

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hmmmmm

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crazy lmao

modern salmon
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His down special is his Not-Clone Attack

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Bruh

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Do you actually play this game

dull roost
#

lol you don't exist anymore bye

modern salmon
#

Bro genuinely get real im starting to get worried about u having an agent smith profile pic but you dont know his moves ???

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Up attack: uppercut
Neutral attack: insect
Side attack: jab
Down attack: downward armored punch

Up special: teleport
Neutral special: gun
Side special: slide gun
Down special: request support from another agent

dull roost
#

dang I see a buncha blocked messages

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wonder who that could be.

modern salmon
#

How sad.... Too stupid for his own good. I do pray he stops being bad at agent smith.

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Full brainpower dedicated to losing rank

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Wait a minute ..... Im just as dumb....

mint loom
#

Shutup

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πŸ‘…

dull roost
mint loom
#

Buff

modern salmon
#

Look at us... A big group of buddies. We can prove to the world you dont gotta be smart to get along ❀️

mint loom
#

Is it alright if I touch you perchance

dull roost
shell tendon
dull roost
#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

thin phoenix
#

How do u even fight superman as Agent Smith

hidden whale
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but tbh it s fair at the same time, even if his armor comes way too late

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i just wish it could be used as a combo potential

faint zinc
dull roost
dull roost
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its like they were not even trying with that move. but regardless, I still like playing da smith.

dull roost
#

ye

dire drum
#

Freeze Protocol is pretty cool

hazy flare
#

dash attack actually combos into jab at low damage

lime vale
#

I would be fine with Smith gun buffs since his loop isn't a thing anymore

dull roost
#

Yuh

mint loom
#

Buff

smoky kelp
#

Revert the Gun loops are dead there is no need for the nerf on it now

dense lotus
#

I want up special to be useful 😭

mint loom
#

It issss

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Its goated

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I know obv its hard to hit

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But when u learn how to read the opponent and pull off an up special mann shiiii makes meee

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BUSSSSSSSSS

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Im sorry

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Skibidi ohio sigma

dull roost
#

And it only combos with your agent clone if they get grabbed from futher away

#

Keep that in mind

shell tendon
#

Can we please stop pretending the move isn't objectively garbage. Especially when you compare it to every other move in the game with a similar function.

dense lotus
#

What about smith dair to down special is that guaranteed or di dependent? Just faced a finn and it never hit him

thin phoenix
dense lotus
#

And guess what i dont do

#

But anyway the smith conversion seems to be going good for me

late briar
#

Buff

mint loom
#

Its pretty strong

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The thing that should be changed tho that would make it better is smith taking damage

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He needs to have a bigger invincibility period during it

hazy flare
#

it... is really bad
Recovery? Super punishable
Dodge read? Not enough range, too slow
Kill confirm? Only from agent throw, and up attack already does that

shell tendon
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objectivley

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1000%

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the worst button in his entire kit

#

just because it has the ability to kill sometimes does not make it pretty strong

#

its slow as hell, telegraphed to hell, cant even blink through walls for some unknown reason

uncut forge
#

100% got Agent Smith skins and emotes

dull roost
#

Aughhhhh

#

Buff

mint loom
#

Idc

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My fav move anyway even if it is his worst

#

It's his best move in terms of how satisfying it is to hit πŸ₯΅πŸ‘…πŸ‘…πŸ‘…πŸ‘…πŸ‘…πŸ‘…

uncut forge
thin phoenix
#

If u read their dodge

dull roost
#

🀫

mint loom
#

Never seen it

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Must be cap

unreal coral
#

Current opinions on Smith? Curious.

mint loom
#

Buff

thin phoenix
mint loom
#

k

undone slate
#

Strong A tier for sure

nova plover
full harbor
#

bros just OK at everything πŸ™

shell tendon
#

^

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honestly dont think i would bother with him if I didnt like both the matrix and him as a character

glossy bough
brittle vector
# unreal coral Current opinions on Smith? Curious.

Smith has every tool he needs to be the most versatile fighter in the game, however his slow startup and large recoveries on the majority of his attacks, combined with his short range, lack of priority on specials, as well as inconsistencies when fighting small (in terms of height) opponents like Reindog or Gizmo, place him in low A tier for me

bright stream
#

garnet_excited made it to Diamond with smith. If I make it farther that would be cool, but I am glad I reach the goal I set for myself.

unreal coral
#

Interesting opinions everyone.

mint loom
#

Buffff speed offf gunnnnn

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Thats my opinion

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Buff

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Speed

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Of

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Gun

stark anvil
maiden bridge
#

Just got wonder woman to gold so im going to try out agent smith. Does anyone have a list of combos or a combo video for 1.2.2 . All the guides on youtube are outdated. Help a brother out please πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ

brittle vector
#

jab1 > uppercut > jump/dodge cancel down air > down special @ moderate percentages

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jab1 > uppercut > jump/dodge cancel uppercut @ high percentages for kills off the top

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neutral special can sometimes cause a ground bounce on grounded opponents, and can be followed up with side special if you're close enough, which can result in kills off the side @ high percentages

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jab1 can be cancel into neutral special @ moderate to high percentages

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jab1 > jab2 > down attack @ low to high percentages

uncut forge
#

Clone into charged uppercut is so satisfying for a ringout

rigid cliff
#

I know your moves

thin phoenix
#

Dodge this!

nova plover
#

and then they actually dodge it and I die instantly

lavish crest
#

what characters have good synergy with smith in 2v2s do you guys think

hollow orbit
#

Hello guys I'm working on a YouTube video and basically I'm trying to figure as each community what you think is the best and worst skin is for your character

dense lotus
#

Worst is the bettle juice skin, best is cyber skin and the rest are all the same basically

#

Smith has no love

maiden bridge
#

Best is matrix skin
Worst beetlejuice skin

full harbor
#

nah beetlejuice skin is good imo he looks silly goofy on it

faint zinc
thin phoenix
#

Worst is cyborg

hidden whale
#

or did they keep their promise

rigid cliff
#

Bet u dont

hidden whale
rigid cliff
#

How am I trolling

glossy gulch
#

Is hand_canon worth it in 2v2s?

#

I've been using the up b extender with teammates but I haven't really found a good way to use it yet

hidden whale
maiden bridge
brittle vector
faint zinc
#

@maiden bridge these aren't patched except for like 1 or 2

mint loom
#

Buff

#

Gun speed

hidden whale
#

BUFF GUN AIR

mint loom
#

fr

dull roost
#

buff

#

college kickin my arse, can't come in here and spam buff my boy, like I use to

mint loom
#

Dw unc

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I'll handle the buff propaganda from here on

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Joking I love u pookie

velvet niche
#

Buying this guy when he becomes 3K

dull roost
stark anvil
#

Oh hey a new hot fix patch came out and some small buffs to Agent Smith had dropped

hidden whale
#

GUN AIR BUFF

#

LET S GOOO

#

I LL PLAY SMITH AGAIN

lavish crest
#

SMITH BUFFS WE'RE SO THRIVING

pallid karma
#

we are so back

hidden whale
#

@dull roost

#

@mint loom

full harbor
dull roost
#

Wut

#

Lol they did lets goooo

#

Smith gang gang

#

🫡😎

hidden whale
#

i am maining smith again

lime vale
#

Air Gun Buffs Holy Cow

midnight plover
#

Yo how good are the buffs?

dull roost
#

we got new combos

#

we can lead gun bounce into double uppercut much easier

mint loom
#

Lets goooo

mint loom
dull roost
mint loom
#

Cant wait to try smith with these buffs

young plank
#

W patch for my man

midnight plover
#

i see so theyre reverting everything with groundbounce since autotech is in the game which is amazing and can still let players keep their creativity

winter rivet
#

How am I supposed to combo air gun?
Every time I try after up tilt it drops at most percents

mint loom
#

Bro there's no way ppl are complaining abt smith getting these buffs

brittle vector
mint loom
#

Hollyyyy

#

Gun feels so good

#

Good bufff 🀩

#

I swear if this gets reverted next patch because of a bunch of no life losers

#

Imma be so mad

#

Smith is far from what should be prioritised like leave my pookie alone

#

Look at every other broken ass character

mint loom
#

Shadow did smith up special in the sonic 3 trailer

thin phoenix
velvet niche
#

That’s it

mint loom
#

Thats one too many

#

A risk I cant take

#

I'll eliminate him fellow agents

hidden whale
gray sparrow
#

this character has some SAIR

#

entire kit kills early

#

and SAIR is so broken'

#

crazy gang

#

honestly

#

never downplay this character

mint loom
#

Someone make a combo guide on yt rn

#

Cus I suck

#

And would like to get better now that I'll prob be tryna grind ranked with him more often

thin phoenix
gray sparrow
lavish crest
mint loom
#

Mvs brainrot fr

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He also did black adam down air

#

The voices help

#

The voices

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Smith up special my beloveddd

brittle vector
#

up special is trash

#

if any move in MVS needs a buff, it's that one

wicked imp
#

Honestly, I just with the reticle indicator for up special was accurate

brittle vector
#

up special just needs more priority

#

it's strong when it hits

#

but you can almost never hit it since normals beat the attack

#

and you're not invulnerable when traveling with it, so players hit you before the hitbox comes out

calm loom
#

But with way more power

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And harder

kindred nest
#

I use the up special after a down special, I let the agent throw the enemy on my tp and that's my favourite kill

brittle vector
thin phoenix
#

U can get some nasty early kills

dull roost
kindred nest
dull roost
#

Not the dk rap

hidden whale
#

i am enjoying smith once again

#

the combos

mint loom
graceful hemlock
#

Hello? Is the game a lot slower?

mint loom
#

No lmao

#

Its a lot faster

nova plover
#

if you want to go faster I’d recommend practicing dodge landings

shell tendon
#

Can we please fix these dumbass interactions with Smith clone in 2v2 sometime in the current year?

hidden whale
#

dear smith mains

#

how should i use down grounded???

#

it s so cool yet i cant find a reason to use it other than a jab 2 follower

wicked imp
#

That’s basically the only reason to use it other than as a niche armor option to call out someone’s mindless aggression

hidden whale
#

up b atleast is useful

wicked imp
#

Idk I personally never use up b either

#

Too slow and doesn’t travel far enough

hidden whale
#

call me stupid but after 500 matches and more i just cant find an useful way to use ground down

hidden whale
wicked imp
#

I mean, that’s fair

#

Most of the time, it doesn’t hit even when I do get the read because it doesn’t travel far

#

So I’ve kinda stopped using it and just go for the guaranteed sair

hidden whale
#

nahh i use it and get rlly good early kills

wicked imp
#

I just wish the reticle was actually accurate to where you’d go

#

I always seem to overestimate the distance it goes

lucid panther
#

Who's the best character to pair with AS in 2v2?

wicked imp
#

Tough to say. WW is always good as a teammate for any character. T&J also pairs well with most tanks and bruisers. Same with characters like Steven, Marvin, and even Velma to a degree

#

Joker as well

hidden whale
#

too

shell tendon
#

You can get a "good read" with literally any move and kill with it. That does not change the fact that in 99 out of 100 scenarios, pressing up B is objectivley you're most dangerous option and just gets you killed. I'd be hard pressed to find a worse button on any other character.

hidden whale
#

still i find it more useful than ground down but i could be wrong ofc

#

also does an agent smith server exist?

mint loom
#

and its pretty big

mint loom
#

πŸ—£οΈ

shell tendon
#

Yeah a teleport that functions like a slow moving dash in a linear direction and stuns you for an absurd amount of time is super cool.

mint loom
#

it is cool

#

how is a basic uppercut cooler

shell tendon
#

Because I don't die for using it

mint loom
#

still looks boring

#

not cool

#

up special cooler

#

and I mean

#

if u know when to use it

#

u wont die

shell tendon
#

Right

#

which is

#

less than 1% of the time

#

because its a waste of button space

#

that isn't cool its just a burden

#

if this was some old school mmo or something where i have over 20 buttons and maybe every once in a while I can use it for some stylish youtube clip it would be one this

#

but this is a fighting game where i have 4-5 special moves and do not have the button real estate to be wasting on literal garbage

mint loom
#

πŸ€“

#

ermmm I cannot afford to use the move β˜οΈπŸ€“

hidden whale
#

i didnt expect the chat to turn into this

#

buuuttt hey someone still figured out another way to use down gro- jk

hidden whale
#

but u can do good stuff with it that s for sure

#

but doesnt mean it should have i frames when teleporting and less self stun

shell tendon
fresh goblet
#

Hey does anyone know a confirm combo for Smith's grab?

smoky kelp
#

Down tilt armour should be instant

hidden whale
dull roost
#

The handsome smith has style

#

🫡😎

unreal coral
hidden whale
cloud night
#

Hey! So any tips for fighting Jack? He has a very long reach and is very fast. Also has several finishers, meanwhile Smith has to "farm" damage the long way

hidden whale
cloud night
#

for down air you need the other to let you go up

#

air special down can prevent you to do that

#

or even the special forward diagonal

#

i mean, if the Jack is as good as you, you are doomed because of his reach

hidden whale
#

which jack doesnt have

cloud night
hidden whale
cloud night
#

dont you struggle a bit? Or it feels easy for you?

hidden whale
#

most of the time jab is jack's best tool

#

cuz it beats urs

pulsar socket
#

I think dair and nair special are your best tools at keeping jack out in neutral

#

Always try to stay above and land dair to start combos if you can’t outspace jack with jabs

cloud night
#

i will try that. Thank you very much!

fresh goblet
#

There's too much knock back from the uptilt to use nspec down

hidden whale
fresh goblet
#

Ohhhhh I'll try it

#

Couldn't land it but oh my god this character is so fun

#

So much sauce

hidden whale
#

if u need it

ancient hollow
#

agent smit

undone slate
wicked imp
undone slate
#

but at higher %s yea up attack would be better

wicked imp
#

I mean, I almost never go for jab 3 anyway

#

Only like at high percents where it’ll just kill

night elm
#

i've yet to see a smith approach me

unreal coral
velvet niche
cloud night
#

Yup, going vertical vs Jack helped me a ton lol

uncut forge
#

Wait dumb question your account pops up

#

I got a notification on an older stream saying you followed. Didn't know if it was legit you or not.

unreal coral
uncut forge
#

Hell yeah I knew it πŸ˜… I was like "whaaaa but I'm ass" lol

uncut forge
#

Anyone else having issues with hits doing 0% damage with a small knockback? Or the grab doing 0 knockback even tho they took damage

mint loom
#

Yeah lmaoo

#

I dont see it happening with batman so idk if its just smith the hits doing nothing

fresh goblet
#

Is Jab 1 -> Uppercut -> Sair true, been landing it pretty consistently

#

But unsure if it's a enemy issue for not dodging it or if this is actually true

#

Cause it seems disgusting

wicked imp
unreal coral
mint loom
smoky kelp
#

Is handcannon still the go to perk with smith

unreal coral
full harbor
#

what does handcannon do

#

i never seen a gun hit a sweetspot it just limits your bullet to one

smoky kelp
#

I always found it easier to loop with but no more loops so been thinking of changing it up

hidden whale
#

just train hitting sweet spots

unreal coral
# hidden whale nahh i think hand cannon is still rlly good

if thats what you wanna run then go for it! :D i'll take multi shots any day of the weak. slightly less percent (im talking 1-2%) and a LOT more room for error? with the ability to catch dodges almost every time? gimmie dat all day. edge guarding is also a lot better with multi shot.

hidden whale
#

but hand cannon lets you take a break from always counting bullets

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and it lets u kill a lot earlier

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and keep enemies at good distance

hidden whale
#

but i ll surely try it

#

cuz multishots is so cool

uncut forge
cloud night
uncut forge
#

Handcannon: Agent Smith * , Banana Gaurd, Batman, Beetlejuice, Garnet, Iron Giant * , Jake, Jason, Rick * , Samurai Jack, Shaggy, Stripe, Superman, Taz

5%: Arya, Black Adam * , Bugs Bunny, Finn, Gizmo, Harley, LeBron James, Marvin, Morty, Reindog, Steven * , Joker * , Tom & Jerry, Velma, Wonder Woman.

  • = characters I'd switch mid game if I notice how the opponent plays.

If I notice that I'm constantly shooting 1 bullet with 5% and hitting each shot easily. I'll just switch to Handcannon next game.

Wonder Woman is the only character I never switch to Handcannon. 5% is the best at destroying her shields.

kindred nest
#

5%: Arya, Black Adam, Bugs Bunny, Finn, Gizmo, Harley, LeBron James, Marvin, Morty, Reindog, Steven, Joker, Tom & Jerry, Velma, Wonder Woman, Agent Smith, Batman, Beetlejuice, Garnet, Iron Giant, Jake, Jason, Rick, Samurai Jack, Shaggy, Stripe, Superman, Taz.

Handcannon:

#

If I notice I'm playing Agent Smith I switch to 5% the next game. XD

cloud night
cloud night
kindred nest
#

I just never change it because I love air down special shooting 3 times too much

cloud night
#

true xD

hidden whale
#

@kindred nest u playin smith rn hah

kindred nest
#

In particular for the power pledge, since his skin was one of the better looking.
But I like how he plays

hidden whale
#

nice games

#

btw

kindred nest
#

you were there? who were you?

hidden whale
#

i was ur teammate

kindred nest
#

glad to not be a deadweight for you then XD

hidden whale
#

nahh

#

u were rlly good

kindred nest
#

We must have played other times as well, I remember your name since it looks Italian

hidden whale
uncut forge
#

Just love Samurai Jack having a jab that hits you from his back πŸ™„

fresh goblet
cloud night
#

Smith: has precise hitboxes for giving a feel of control, which is great for competitive fighting games.
Jack: Whatever... πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

smoky kelp
#

Spamurai Jack

hidden whale
#

ayo dont insult my foot

smoky kelp
stark anvil
#

Wait a minute I'm a genius

gritty silo
#

Jack Blackshots

stark anvil
#

I wish Jack still had his reverse grab/throw that way I could have had an excuse to call it Jackshots but they completely removed that reversal ability from his grab in the recent patch

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Shame really it was such a funny move to land despite impracticality

gritty silo
grand fjord
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If your name is SnazzySombrero ggs that was a close set

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Haven’t seen many other smiths in my games so having a ditto was a nice change of pace

onyx sequoia
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Smith dittos sound spicy.

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Thinking of picking up this dude.

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What should I know?

mint loom
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Gun

dull roost
uncut forge
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The main emoji for this group should be πŸ•ΆοΈ instead of toast

dull roost
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😎

shell tendon
# onyx sequoia What should I know?

Go in with the understanding your tools are objectivly worse than the vast majority of tools the other characters have so you have to respect other characters that much more. Also that your Down Special in 2v2 is the most bugged thing in the world so if you want to fire it out, make sure to scream "Let's go gambling" to temper your expectations.

onyx sequoia
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I think I'll just go back to Jason.

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Thanks for the help.

dull roost
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πŸ€”

mint loom
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for anyone new to smith basically what you need to know is that up special is the only move worth using like dont even press any other buttons

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dont even move

gritty silo
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Terrible advice. It's as if you don't want these guys to play the game.

mint loom
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k this guy doesnt know what hes talking about

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in fact new players I'd just rip apart the controller and only leave the joystick/dpad up and special

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dont listen to anyone saying otherwise im a top -5 smith

gritty silo
mint loom
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alright u def dont know what ur talking abt

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come back to me when ur a -10 smith at least

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smh my head

gritty silo
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I think you've seen too many Jokers. Try logging off MultiVersus and giving your brain a rest.

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Assuming a brain exists, that is.

mint loom
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Up special πŸ€‘

gritty silo
hidden whale
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up special is sogood

slate ocean
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Very fun character yes

smoky kelp
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Man Smith is doo doo In 1v1 he struggles so much

gritty silo
smoky kelp
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It was Arya my sair kept whiffing despite my hand going through her head πŸ˜ͺ

gritty silo
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They might still have hitboxes to fix.

smoky kelp
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Dair and sair need looking at

dull roost
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making a steven rage quit feels so good

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😎

static jolt
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How's Smith?

kindred nest
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Neatly dressed

unreal coral
mint loom
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well well well

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hello oh great smith

static jolt
mint loom
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Chat do u think we'll get any good smith skins this season πŸ€‘

unreal coral
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I wish

mint loom
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πŸ˜”

cloud night
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We may get the non-glasses emoticon tho

mint loom
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I miss being able to use the spoon emote free lmao

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shoulda just stayed free at that point

broken ether
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idk if smith is a good character but no reason your body counts as a gun hitbox

graceful hemlock
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We best character

broken ether
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yeah then those hitboxes need to be nerfed

graceful hemlock
mint loom
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What lmao

atomic edge
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Is there any actual use to his Buddy System Teleport perk

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cause it seems useless

slate ocean
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horrid perk