I'm not gonna act like I'm the greatest player ever but I'm far from "bad"
#Wonder Woman
lilac cosmos
violet mason
Ight
lavish coral
Wonder Woman is best character in the game rn
Except for the fact she doesn’t have a projectile
But her lasso makes up for most of that
lilac cosmos
She doesn't need projectiles if she's immune to them
lavish coral
Fr
lilac cosmos
And yeah her lasso is vile
dense ingot
WW doesn't mean wonder woman it means wholeday wins
south thistle
Man why does banana get all the hate when there is an even stronger character
dense ingot
because of banana side special spammers
lilac cosmos
Same reason Shaggy caught all the smoke in the beta, low level players struggling with spam
south thistle
finally someone that thinks the same as me
dense ingot
multiverses literally the fighting game where it's much easier to deal with spamming than in others
atleast imo
south thistle
Its an infinite cycle every Fighting/beat em up game has
lilac cosmos
multiverses literally the fighting game where it's much easier to deal with spam...
Not anymore tbh
Attack decay was removed so now it's really just Smash with a dodge button instead of a shield
south thistle
Attack decay was removed so now it's really just Smash with a dodge button inste...
Nah feels completly different than smash
lilac cosmos
Worse, maybe
south thistle
idk i like that its slower if i want to play a faster game i can just play smash
dense ingot
Not anymore tbh
yeah atm it's kinda weird
parry windows are kinda broken
also it's laggy anyways most of the time atleast for me
lilac cosmos
Not broken, just parry timer is too strict for input delay to let you do it on reaction
south thistle
yeah you can only parry if you predict what your opponent does but you cant react parry
dense ingot
beta multiversus was so much better gameplay wise imo
lilac cosmos
beta multiversus was so much better gameplay wise imo
It was so much better period.
The only things this full release has over the beta is more content.
The beta was actually less buggy, gameplay was better, performance was better, everything was better
south thistle
Cant say the same infinite doges was just bad
lilac cosmos
That was bad also yeah this does that better as well
south thistle
But everything except the gameplay was better in the beta (They should kinda mix the gamplay from the beta and now)
surreal pecan
Goodness, i'm glad i learned to win against Iron Giant
Iron Giant was really annoying, he spamming spin so my armor didn't help a lot
tawny lava
Is the WW discord still a thing
pine gull
Got sent to the void my boy
pale sierra
W
shrewd fiber
anyone know where to get her tooniverse skin from? I can't find it anywhere
surreal pecan
anyone know where to get her tooniverse skin from? I can't find it anywhere
you mean graphic t skin?
lavish rivet
bro i swear nerf this character please
pine gull
Nuh uh
surreal pecan
bro i swear nerf this character please
She's fine
cerulean creek
Do you guys find WW fun to play?
Like doing cool stuff with movement lasso and her combos feels satisfying but she doesn't feel that enjoyable, at least not as much compared to other characters I play
shrewd fiber
you mean graphic t skin?
no no the actual skin that looks like she's a cartoon drawing
pine gull
Do you guys find WW fun to play?
Pure dopamine and the clanging sound effect every time the sword and shield hits which I like hearing
plain fiber
Pure dopamine and the clanging sound effect every time the sword and shield hits...
Not to mention the GET OVER HERE with the lasso pull 🤤
limber quartz
Does WW have any losing MUs? Im really struggling against her
midnight vine
Does WW have any losing MUs? Im really struggling against her
you gotta have a better approach of the game this game is closer to street fighter than melee
in terms of movements
limber quartz
But does she have any losing MUs?
midnight vine
hmmm i have a hard time against steven universe
and tom and jerry
generally
but with tom and jerry i think it's just my playstyle
cause i barely use shield
so really on me
midnight vine
idk i fought a really good steven universe just absolutely disruptive
surreal pecan
hmmm i have a hard time against steven universe
the main counter for WW is anti armor perk based on my exp
if they use that perks, i used armor moves less often than usual
midnight vine
i see
cerulean creek
Does WW have any losing MUs? Im really struggling against her
No one really. Mainly anti armor but she can deal with anyone in the cast.
tawny lava
sure, ft3?
I'm on rn
tawny lava
Does WW have any losing MUs? Im really struggling against her
Finn Batman Gizmo r my big 3 L matchups just me tho
midnight vine
batman can be frustrating
cursive berry
i feel like you’d counter gizmo though
surreal pecan
Do you guys find WW fun to play?
So far i still have fun with her, she's the first char that i bought because she's a tank, i think that class is pretty necessary for all modes
midnight vine
honestly it's hard to tell right now
cause everyone is all over the place in this game
tawny lava
So far i still have fun with her, she's the first char that i bought because she...
What's ur user if ur on
surreal pecan
What's ur user if ur on
i send my id name in dm
cursive berry
what’s t0?
midnight vine
tier 0
surreal pecan
top tier?
midnight vine
best character in the game
i just think too many other characters are not being explored to there potential
ww is a week 1 threat
cause she's so straight forward
gameplay wise
midnight vine
she has an answer to everything cause she has the best normals
but there are so many other variables to make disruptions vs playing straight forward
cursive berry
what kind of disruption do you mean?
cerulean creek
i think ww is good but not t0
Not many characters have answers to her. And she can handle pretty much anything in this game. Zoners, rushdown, heavies. She has the overall best kit in the game, she's easy, has reliable damage build and kill power, has built in armor mechanics on some of her moves in including some normals...
midnight vine
steven universe can easily top and you see like a 1 steven universe to 50 games
it's not being explored
and you see a lot of players stuck trying to play the beta version of this game
not trying to play footsies and stuff like that
cerulean creek
I understand what you're saying with some characters have potential to be pushed to higher heights, but if a character doesn't need to be explored and they're that good on a fundamental level then i still believe shes #1
cerulean creek
Not to mention you have to take into account execution barriers and situational stuff
Yea ik
midnight vine
when the game is new and people are just getting use to mechanics
she's absolutely the best one right now
cerulean creek
So overtime, who do you think will be the best?
Say we don't get a balance patch for like a month
midnight vine
i legitimately think steven universe can easily be broken
cerulean creek
Oh 100% yea i agree
cursive berry
that’s later on though
midnight vine
and it's so disruptive
cursive berry
but in week 1 as it is Ww is probably the best character
midnight vine
yeah that i agree
cursive berry
she had great normals and is probably the safest character in the game rn
cerulean creek
We established this yes
midnight vine
ehh...
cursive berry
aye man iron giant is probably the most slept on character rn imo
midnight vine
he's just so slow
this game forced footies to be important
so movement speed and attack speed is important
you can't spam things cause they added a stamina bar
if you understand spacing, and footsies you'd be really good at this game pretty much it's just the other factors on how crazy the projectiles can be
cursive berry
if you can parry though, the parry projectile perk makes everything else makes it obsolete
midnight vine
yea but if the other character makes enough chaos it's not as easy as you think
like idk if you play sf3
since they have a parry system there
but the parry in this game is harder
and you don't really parry everything in sf3
ssome attacks have really weird priorities
that really throws your timing off as well
cerulean creek
She seems aggressive
She definitely can be played aggressively
That's how i play
But she can also play a bit more passively since she has lasso to force approaches, armor as a means of protection and large disjoints to attack from a distance
novel snow
Does WW have any glitches Specific to her? And does she have any infinites?
cerulean creek
If you're playing aggressively use the movement lasso, it combos into a bunch of stuff and is more versatile than the other ones
cerulean creek
Does WW have any glitches Specific to her? And does she have any infinites?
She has no infinites or glitches to my knowledge.
Might be wrong
novel snow
okie
pine gull
Does WW have any glitches Specific to her? And does she have any infinites?
Not currently and she really doesn't have any infinites
Bruh
Too me 3 business days to respond
novel snow
Not currently and she really doesn't have any infinites
good to know
autumn prism
Ngl peeping nakats guide
Alrdy feel overwhelmed
My mains rn are like
Black adam and ig
shrewd fiber
how are you guys beating Jasons?
autumn prism
Honestly between ur small lightning ball
And ur flight
Jason really struggles to keep up with you
And then u can just punish him rught after
shrewd fiber
I get that in theory but I feel so slow in game compared to the beta
or maybe its just crappy network 🤷♂️
dense ingot
I get that in theory but I feel so slow in game compared to the beta
game itself is slower than in beta it's not bc of ur network
limber cypress
lusty shuttle
howdy !
can I get some advice on how to best utilize wonder woman ?
im doing okay, but not as well as my main. any tips would be helpful ! im just not 100% on what the strat should be
cerulean creek
how are you guys beating Jasons?
i just beat them up very hard and they die
and i usually use him as combo practice to do more advanced stuff
olive shale
im doing okay, but not as well as my main. any tips would be helpful ! im just n...
Jab into forward attack is a good thing to learn it sets up kills well
cerulean creek
Jab into forward attack is a good thing to learn it sets up kills well
jab into neutral attack*
olive shale
Ya whatever it's called
cerulean creek
tips, use armor whenever u can no matter what its good
use movement lasso to allow for easier combo conversions as well as better movement
juggles with ww are insanely strong esp with up b so pressure your opponent to make them waste resources and kill them for it
olive shale
Unless u want added pressure then use tipper, all 3 of her lassos can be viable tho it's up to player preference so experiment on her
cerulean creek
sair is a generally broken move, abuse its disjoint as best as you can. nair is also her best combo starter.
aerial side b is VERY strong, use it when you have a read on your opponent's drift offstage or when they have no dodge to kill very early
something people dont really talk about is the fact you can shark very efficiently with ww. sair and side b hit over the ledge on inpatient players trying to edgeguard/ ledgetrap
use down attack charged while your opponents on ledge. its extremely difficult to deal with.
and have fun!
olive shale
use down attack charged while your opponents on ledge. its extremely difficult t...
If they're going up the wall on ledge you can charge it a little bit and it'll set up a spike for you, it's also hard to react to this way
Also heavy on the have fun part she's super fun
compact gust
best combo for wonder woman?
tidal vessel
sorry for a noob question but how exactly her down X works (gaunlets)? I know I can change them and make an explosion. But is she invulnarable while I do this move?
lilac cosmos
best combo for wonder woman?
Doesn't matter she kills Iron Giant at 20% anyways
And does like 90 damage a hit
cerulean creek
best combo for wonder woman?
general purpose mainly jab x2 - up tilt to set up for ladders and jab x2 - neutral attack to launch offstage
she has like 50+ damage combos tho but slightly execution based
compact gust
And does like 90 damage a hit
and i still manage to be trash with her
compact gust
general purpose mainly jab x2 - up tilt to set up for ladders and jab x2 - neutr...
thanks
wraith compass
ww perks?
south thistle
@cerulean creek You know a good WW guide and what perks are her bests?
wraith compass
<@530463950035222549> You know a good WW guide and what perks are her bests?
i js saw the nakat one but his perks are a lil lame
i think the lazo can be used better
south thistle
i js saw the nakat one but his perks are a lil lame
Nah nakat doesn't miss
compact gust
best perks for wonder woman?
cerulean creek
<@530463950035222549> You know a good WW guide and what perks are her bests?
nakat's the best wonder woman so id recommend watching his guide. as for her perks i havent really experimented with anything besides movement lasso as the main perk.
cerulean creek
<@530463950035222549> ur a god, thank u
im happy i could help
feel free to ask any questions ill be happy to assist in any way i can
wraith compass
feel free to ask any questions ill be happy to assist in any way i can
easy strings?
lilac cosmos
Life would be better if PFG left WW alone
cerulean creek
easy strings?
side attack x2 - neutral attack, side attack x2 - up attack, up attack - up special
neutral air - side attack...
wraith compass
ill try them tmrw thx
muted pawn
Any good EU wonder woman players wanna hop in some 1s and show me some stuff? Feel like I should be playing better, but Im not good enough to see what im doing wrong
south thistle
@cerulean creek are there some true combos?
cerulean creek
<@530463950035222549> are there some true combos?
the combos i stated above are all true
those are her main combos
wide crane
Join the WW discord all the good combos are in there
south thistle
Join the WW discord all the good combos are in there
how?
cerulean creek
WW kill confirms anyone ?
side attack - neutral attack, up attack - up special
cerulean creek
Join the WW discord all the good combos are in there
thought it got nuked?
bitter obsidian
Can't wait for ww nerfs
slim wagon
Anyone NA willing to play 1s with a newer WW? Trying to get a feel for the game rn
south thistle
what do i do against Taz with her his moves last for generation, can i maybe stop them with something
visual flume
this has to be the mosst annoying chracter in any platform fighter ever
period
BECAUSE there's just no counterplay
she has nearly everything
the best OFFENSE and DEFENSE in the game and it all goes to one character
thats broken
lilac cosmos
I think the devs just buffed the characters they play or something
WW was in a good position
Now she's busted
Shaggy too
nova hare
She is a fair and honest character, ignore everyone saying she is top 1 in the game
violet mason
^
She loses most jab encounters
Dont care what nobody say
Hit boxes on those normals are ah
south thistle
Taz kinda feels like a hard counter against her ngl
violet mason
Only way u lose is if u move towards her mashin and get read or if u jus jump in da air and stay above her
Just dont be in da air keep ya feet on da ground
That simple
lilac cosmos
Taz kinda feels like a hard counter against her ngl
Playing a top 3 character and struggling with a bottom 5 is insane
south thistle
Playing a top 3 character and struggling with a bottom 5 is insane
idk why but i always struggle against the most random characters😔
violet mason
Like u cud lowkey jus do bugs bunny little spin punch da entire game on da ground n ww not doing nun
Type shi
south thistle
idk why but i always struggle against the most random characters😔
and it was my first time facing a taz so idk what my opponent even does with his 1,5k wins on Taz (He has 6 times more wins on taz then i played games)
visual flume
She is a fair and honest character, ignore everyone saying she is top 1 in the g...
HOW??
how is wonder woman fair in this game
lilac cosmos
It's called bait
visual flume
she beats half the cast
visual flume
It's called bait
i had a feeling
nova hare
I am a very serious person, I wouldn't joke about Wonder Woman having every tool you can need for a character besides kind of far ranged which she makes up for with her sword and lasso
violet mason
She dont got range anywhere else besides those
If you lose a attack fight against her ur actually trash
She not bad but she not top 1
violet mason
Thats fair
lilac cosmos
Who has a billion loops, a billion 0tds, and even a way to kill AT 0
lilac cosmos
I'd put the 3 best as being IG, WW, and Bugs rn tbh
They're all vile and insanely strong
lilac cosmos
Finn is kinda weak rn
Just play in the air out of range of his utilt
Abuse your lasso
south thistle
I kinda feel stupid not having a problem with any "OP" character but struggling against Taz
lilac cosmos
Maybe you just don't know the matchup
In the beta with Shaggy, I wasn't struggling with characters like Superman despite him being considered top tier but Black Adam was the bane of my existence (he still is, gut him NOW)
south thistle
yeah i dont was my first time facing a Taz but it felt like i could do nothing
surreal pecan
Who's watching tourney final, key vs greeted?
south thistle
That she has a 50% dmage true combo that is easy to execute doesnt make her more balanced i guess
olive shale
As a ww main im sacred of bugs and fins
Bugs is ez matchup just pressure him nonstop
If u see him setting up safe just lasso tipper him
surreal pecan
If u see him setting up safe just lasso tipper him
I hate when Bugs releases a bunker, i used jump often and not too horizontal play
dull zephyr
I kinda feel stupid not having a problem with any "OP" character but struggling ...
It's because you don't see a lot of taz
You're more confident against shaggy or other top tier because you often play with them
south thistle
i know that i played many fighting games before that but even now it still feels stupid because in every fighting game i play i struggle against a low class char
surreal pecan
I kinda feel stupid not having a problem with any "OP" character but struggling ...
sometimes when we fight against any oppts that we don't have any infos about them
It's pretty difficult
midnight vine
this has to be the mosst annoying chracter in any platform fighter ever
so playing honest is annoying? LOL
civic crag
This character is annoying as hell to fight
spare stream
I just started playing multiversus this week for the 1st time. I'm really liking it! I've been using WW & I love her so far. I haven't even used any other fighters, yet. What other fighters do y'all like to use?
wraith compass
I just started playing multiversus this week for the 1st time. I'm really liking...
harley n bugs
spare stream
harley n bugs
Thanks! I've considered Harley, but haven't thought about bugs. I'll see how I like them.
I'm going to purchase Harley & try Bugs for free. I'm brand new & WW the 1st fighter I purchased. I've been trying to learn all of WW's combos this week.
surreal pecan
I just started playing multiversus this week for the 1st time. I'm really liking...
At this rotation (bugs, lebron, finn), i'll probably see at the next one, but so far i'm considering get IG
spare stream
At this rotation (bugs, lebron, finn), i'll probably see at the next one, but so...
That's another good one! But since WW is a tank I wanted to try to learn a different type of fighter. Like an assassin
surreal pecan
That's another good one! But since WW is a tank I wanted to try to learn a diffe...
The only reason I bought WW because she is a tank, i think i need it just in case for 2v2
I never think about how good or what tier she is ngl
midnight vine
I kinda feel stupid not having a problem with any "OP" character but struggling ...
don't think taz is a bad character
i actually think he's atleast high tier
yeah but he's saying he's bottom 5
which is clearly not true
i agree ww should clear him
but taz has some nasty combos
that can easily kill you on early percentage
austere crypt
Taz kinda feels like a hard counter against her ngl
That MU is insanely winning for WW you just need to learn the MU
It's not even like a complicated MU
You just take advantage of the fact he can't Tornado or Dogpile because of WW lasso
And you out beat EVERY one of his hit boxes with fair
tidal sapphire
I tried grapple of Hermes against taz. You can use it to stall when he's going tornado or dog pile. And it stuns for a few frames if you lasso him. Pretty easy matchup tbh
wraith compass
You just take advantage of the fact he can't Tornado or Dogpile because of WW la...
i js pray ok god tbh
south thistle
I tried grapple of Hermes against taz. You can use it to stall when he's going t...
I dont use grapple of hermes so I cant Stall him with that
visual flume
so playing honest is annoying? LOL
WW is not honest
cursive berry
WW is not honest
she’s honest just really good too
visual flume
define dishonest for me
visual flume
and infinite lasso is broken
cursive berry
just because a character is good doesn’t make them dishonest
dishonest is like if she just ran away spamming shield
but that’s not optimal for wonder woman
midnight vine
and infinite lasso is broken
lasso is like one of the slowest move in the game
you just get hit by it cause you're so afraid of the dair/nair coming at you
it's fair and his defensive tactics is what's making people think she's better than what she is
cursive berry
agreed just because she’s strong doesn’t make her “dishonest”
midnight vine
like just this crazy all-around kit
but she's not the best defensive character
or tankiest character
or offensive character
like if we're talking about defense i think steven universe is way better than ww
if we're talking about offense i think tj is way better
or even joker
like even tankiness
superman is just overall more survivable
joker's offense is not yet explored
the reason why ww's offense is so good RIGHT NOW cause it's very basic and it has a good normal
like when you play ww you know what you're going to do cause it's so straight forward
also, i played a few other characters
other than ww
just right now ww is my main cause she is by far the most basic character in this game
so i can understand the game much better
but at beta i was a harley main
basic in terms of different variables the game offers
lol
ok
like if you play street fighter
ww is ken
while banana guard is ryu
idk if you understand that
idea
but yeah
lool you just don't get it breh
it's fine
be mad
huh?
and you don't get what i'm saying
that's absolute cap
also in sf4 i could've went pro
easily
not the same game
but yeah
it's kyrie breh i'm actually hot af
LMFAO
not playing atm
and this guy says he's not mad 😦
lusty shuttle
WW is crazy crazy crazy strong atm, but its not like she has janky infinites or anything
shes not perfectly balanced, shes WAY ahead of p. much the entire roster in terms of offense and defense, but its not like shes completely busted broken either
midnight vine
i'm not really sure but it's either jolo
or jololol
or jolololol
i lost track
you can see from there
i'm not playing atm
lusty shuttle
she takes a lot of skill to play well, but she is also much better than most characters
i dont think its like a "free win" if you pick her, but shes deffo one of the strongest characters in the game rn
midnight vine
@lusty shuttle breh... she's too broken to be basic though according to this guy
he plays professionally
btw
and you can't understand the recognition of what i'm saying that she's basically the ken of this game
lusty shuttle
she requires a bit less effort and labbing to get the same results as on a more complicated character, but I wouldnt exactly say shes basic either
lilac cosmos
Erm what the sigma
midnight vine
@lusty shuttle she has a bit of a mechanical variable but not much of a difference given that she's still a straight forward character
you can cancel her jabs into more higher potential combos
things like that
lusty shuttle
yeah 100%
midnight vine
if you know street fighter she's basically a shoto character but ken
ken is more combo heavy
with a bit of a mix into the shoto style of play
lusty shuttle
she also doesnt have very long true combo strings, which means while she doesnt require labbing long combos, playing her requires you to read more and improvise
but that improvisation isnt too hard given her kit is so strong
ultimately i think she needs a bit of a balance, but shes not as busted as like... iron giant and his infinites
surreal pecan
okay i get it, my bad
first of all, what's going on here, i thought this channel for guide and mirror sparring
not just get in here and complaining right after lost often
midnight vine
the only thing they really need to do is nerf her fair
and people would realize how basic she is
lusty shuttle
agreed tbh; that fair is so strong, and would be fine if that was her main kill move, but she also has up air
nothing busted, just too many really really good and quick moves rn
surreal pecan
and people would realize how basic she is
Dude, i suggest to take a break for while
you're seems getting heated right now
midnight vine
i'm not mad i'm just explaining my opinion this guy is coming at me for no reason
cause i said she is pretty basic
read above i didn't say anything to this guy
literally responded cause people are saying she's a dishonest character
which is clearly not true
cause she has the most basic kit
it's strong
but basic
surreal pecan
So far after i main with ww, i agree that she's pretty strong, but i don't 100% think that she's really broken/busted
There are few chars that i'm sure are pretty strong same as ww, like IG, Arya, etc, just depend on their pilot
midnight vine
exactly
she's glaring right now cause of how easy she is
but if steven once people figure out techs on how to properly play this game and it's mechanicals
i'm pretty sure ww moves down to lower t1
visual flume
lasso is like one of the slowest move in the game
U ARE LYING
midnight vine
^^ see what i mean
don't realize the start up frames of lasso
and how unsafe it is
surreal pecan
she's glaring right now cause of how easy she is
because she is a tank that pretty easy to piloted, with a lot exps like smash bros players and good mechanical
That'll make ww pretty strong
But i'm curious more about the other tank like Superman (medium) and IG (hard)
I had fought against IG few times in 1v1, he's really annoying ngl
Superman just once, but i lost because his moves mostly gave him armor
visual flume
and make her air punch slower
surreal pecan
don't realize the start up frames of lasso
I prefer use lasso as a teleport so far
visual flume
if it’s gonna be that strong
humble frigate
I can't believe how fast she is for being a tank, she feels just like harley and she is an assasin, really weird
tidal sapphire
IG has multiple infinites. that dude is broken broken
surreal pecan
I can't believe how fast she is for being a tank, she feels just like harley and...
she's fast because of her pilot made her really fast, i still learning the movement basic
midnight vine
I can't believe how fast she is for being a tank, she feels just like harley and...
it's the game mechanics cause there is iad and dodge jump that sends you flying very quickly
but everyone can do that
it's the base mechanic of the game
humble frigate
Yeah I guess but it's pretty damn hard to leave the air against her
midnight vine
fair is really strong
they gotta nerf it a bit
that i agree with
if she's not threatening that attack
humble frigate
I'm trynna learn how to fight against her but everytime I get the lead she just fair and kills me at 100-110 damn
midnight vine
it wouldn't be as scary going up against her
humble frigate
Maybe she just have a good MU against joker but damn that she is making me play so good for a kill
tidal sapphire
most of the time i lose as WW its cause i get whiff punished hard, but thats probably a skill issue for me. i feel like a lot of characters have larger horizontal hitboxes than her.
harley or batman with armor break on thier dash attack is pretty hard for me to deal with
midnight vine
Maybe she just have a good MU against joker but damn that she is making me play ...
i just think there are characters that's harder to learn i think joker is really strong
visual flume
IG has multiple infinites. that dude is broken broken
how do people even get caught in those
literally just avoid iron giant
wait for him to whiff a move
surreal pecan
IG has multiple infinites. that dude is broken broken
Heli spin kick --> clap car --> heli spin kick again, about 30% can't escape when in combo
midnight vine
probably the most respectable tier list right now
only thing i don't agree with is that they gotta swap tj and bugs
austere crypt
how do people even get caught in those
Bait message or you have never fought a good player in your life
visual flume
i’m talking specifically iron giant infinites
austere crypt
I know
wide crane
WW doesn't need to be the best at offense or the best at defence to be the best character
It's actually because she's such a strong combination of the two
She is a very privileged character that has some shortcomings, but she is definitely a top tier and contender for #1 right now as it stands
no point talking about character's potentials until they've unlocked that
Her only flaw is not having a quick poke in the air, but being able to give yourself armour, even when the shield meter has run out shouldn't be downplayed, her killpower is overtuned to hell
lilac cosmos
The issue with Wonder Woman is there's nothing she doesn't have
She has solid range with the lasso, her attacks are all decently safe, she can neutralize basically every projectile except maybe a few I'm not entirely sure on that, she has high damage and strong combos as well as great kill moves and half her attacks are armored
wide crane
only 2 of her attacks are armoured and they're not great neutral tools
she definitely doesn't have a quick aerial poke, that is the one thing you can exploit, but she has the range to do retreating fairs to beat out characters with better frame data
her problems have workarounds
If she is grounded while the opponent is airborne she has plenty of answers tho
tidal sapphire
shes incredibly flexible. i love standard lasso for combos, but if i need to dive i go grapple of hermes, if against IG or something, i go tipper lasso
she also has an answer for projectiles and can clear debuffs
thats way more flexibility than most of the cast
wide crane
Also, I saw some people in here talking about how beta WW was weak and I think that's crazy
she was definitely a top threat back then too, she did not need all these buffs
tidal sapphire
she was strong back then, you just also had harley and late beta superman
wide crane
yeah, she wasn't as good as those for sure but those characters were TOO much
I think WW is right now too, I shield a bugs rocket and his safe I have full charge on the meter and now down attack kills at 60
0 to death combos off her jab, plenty of kill confirms
Plenty of damage which she didn't have in the beta
tidal sapphire
on the pgg map, you can shield bash the mojo bombs and instantly feed your charge meter
wide crane
wtf ok based
I will be doing that
also for reference for people reading my big wall of text, I am a WW main, there's some serious downplaying going on and for the health of the game she needs nerfs
not the only one who needs nerfs, but the one I have hands on experience with
tidal sapphire
with how well she did on all the tourneys so far, shes definitely getting nerfs
wide crane
I will miss this BEAST of a character when she's gone so enjoy her while you can
midnight vine
she played similarly on beta i think the big buff is the infinite lasso
but all of the things you can do now you were able to do before
i think slowing the game down showed her strengths even more
i definitely agree with vintage hotel's take though her kit is just all around amazing
which is what makes her amazing
i just think she's not an outlier of a character that people think she is
violet mason
She jus has everything a platform fighting game needs
Pressure, her side Bs are crazy, a shield, a one shot mechanic and an an insane up b
She pretty fast too
midnight vine
like if we have to make comparison
on the closest platform fighter
she's basically the marth of this game
violet mason
I was gonna say roy
violet mason
Yea
bitter obsidian
dishonest is like if she just ran away spamming shield
That Is what a lot do ngl
violet mason
Her lil down special guage thing reminds me of roys charged
bitter obsidian
Most WWs I fight, when they start losing they convert to spamming shield and hyper armor
violet mason
Yall running?
midnight vine
if they can't keep up with footsies i see that as well
violet mason
I been getting people running from shield but it’s inevitable
midnight vine
but it's not like it's a good move
midnight vine
my thing is iad nair early if they can respond to that i start playing safer
violet mason
Im an aggressive ww i jus go in
midnight vine
but if i get hit and a small bounce i dodge forward fair just to see how the player reacts
violet mason
But i gotta start playing safer
midnight vine
then if i'm hitting a lot i tend to do the slash loop
just to get the guy confuse on what to do
lol
violet mason
They gotta fix da controlls i be doing unnecessary inputs
Too often
The response is terrible
violet mason
then if i'm hitting a lot i tend to do the slash loop
Same
midnight vine
yeah i think a big misconception though
is her combos
people think it's a true string
but it's not most of the time
violet mason
Does she even have combos
violet mason
Figured
midnight vine
lol yeah
that's what i use the loop cause they go bot mode
and just try to dodge everything
violet mason
Fax
Tbh hot take but id like to see her buff in a way i can do 7-8 hit combos
Jus boring
Asf
Or jus give her an auto grab
Im playing shazam and this guy lowkey on par wit her
Maybe even better
midnight vine
Tbh hot take but id like to see her buff in a way i can do 7-8 hit combos
i don't think you need that i do like how she has great follow up
violet mason
Yea she does trus but is like 50/50
midnight vine
yeah i like how you have to read what they are going to do
that's really why she does so much damage
violet mason
Jus played this batman had two stocks on him then he proceeds to his up b the entire game
Shoulda done the same
😔
visual flume
She is a very privileged character that has some shortcomings, but she is defini...
what are her shortcomings
what is WW bad at
pine gull
How do yall beat finn main cuz I can barley touch them
wide crane
what are her shortcomings
She has shorter range and slower moves than the likes of Finn, and even Shaggy depsite her using a sword
so in a lot of air to air exchanges she doesn't have the advantage
and she has blind spots at close range that certain fast characters can abuse
so she can get 0-70ed pretty easily
but that doesn't matter too much when she can do it right back, kill earlier and survive longer
she also doesn't have something to force your approach except for waiting for armor to come off cooldown, so camping her is not the worst option in the world
violet mason
She has shorter range and slower moves than the likes of Finn, and even Shaggy d...
And bugs
tidal sapphire
finns only armor break is a grounded move, right? id try to fight him in the air personally. and get under him cause not much beats her air up special
violet mason
She cant beat bugs in onna ground most time
wide crane
Finn's nair breaks armor too
tidal sapphire
ah
wide crane
but the MU isn't too bad, use to be a lot worse with gem
nair basically invalidates the armor but she still has plenty she can do
tidal sapphire
WW should easily beat bugs in a matchup. half his moves just feed her aoe
tidal sapphire
5% lasso into downtilt, then ladder up, then hes above you, bat isnt a problem
or sorry, into dair then ladder
wide crane
she also has this terrible blindspot when characters low profile
like Harley down tilt
midnight vine
dang i gotta get better just played against mirror man just didn't play well at all
violet mason
Ww too basic man i cant changing mains
She not allat
Her lasso needs to be guaranteed connect and cooldown
For fancier combos
lilac cosmos
Ww too basic man i cant changing mains
Swap to the Joker
He has the best skin in the game
Quite frankly, makes him better than everyone else
humble frigate
The game punishing you for hitting wonder woman while having armor it's probably the dumbest thing I have ever seen
Cuz if you hit her you either gave her meter or you get a trade (or you get comboe'd if you have bad luck)
violet mason
Ion like da pale skin of black lantern
The voice actin and the suite itself is lowkey tuff tho and the glowin eyes
But da skin makes it look emo goth
At that point
nova hare
I do like how much the Black Lantern skins change WW and Superman looks wise, even giving WW a new weapon which is really cool
rich wind
anyone playing this character is an opp now
lilac cosmos
I do like how much the Black Lantern skins change WW and Superman looks wise, e...
Basically all the legendary skins do that
They're essentially different characters with the same kit
Like Uncle Shagworthy is an actual different character in the show
And the Batman Who Laughs is a really poorly written power fantasy but he's got a fire design fr
nova hare
And the Batman Who Laughs is a really poorly written power fantasy but he's got ...
I actually liked Batman Who Laughs when he was first introduced, his design really helps him with that. They just VASTLY overused him when I feel like literally any of the other Dark Knights were far more interesting
lilac cosmos
Batman Who Laughs has one of the best character designs, that's probably why he's used so much
He's just written like ass
pastel sonnet
Basically all the legendary skins do that
Oo that’s very cool
wraith compass
but shes acc good at everything
grave gyro
Whoever said top 1 lame as hel
I can tell bro is struggling and fighting for being thought good of because of how shhit he probably is in reality even with ww 😭
surreal pecan
anyone down to ww mirror match ft3?
Need more exp against ww mains
old tiger
Ngl Im in the Camp that WW is Overtuned, and the only ones who would disagree with this likely use the character.
AnyTime a WW is qued up against me the match becomes a RaidBoss fight lawl.
wraith compass
bruh ww is strong asl what yall sayin there is no need to combo but u can kill
old tiger
bruh ww is strong asl what yall sayin there is no need to combo but u can kill
I have to put in so much effort to get around her Braindead hitboxes lol
flint oriole
Can confirm, just tried to fight a WW as Garnet. Every attack outranged me, every attack had armor, its ridiculous. So much effort has to be put in just to get in and actually land hits, and half the time you think youre gonna hit, BAM armored dash straight into you
austere crypt
Mid character,.no comboes or kill moves
wraith compass
Mid character,.no comboes or kill moves
who?
austere crypt
Ww
wraith compass
whos ur main?
austere crypt
Can confirm, just tried to fight a WW as Garnet. Every attack outranged me, ever...
Does WW even have any armoured attacks? Swear she just has armour as a move
sand scarab
Nerf kill power of Sair and side special, reduce hitstun from jab 1, reduce weight slightly, make armor meter reset on death
Anyone saying she's lacking offensively has not yet seen the sauce
And give back beta di perk or make di stronger generally. Doing the same combo routes that can't really be di'd is lame for everyone involved
olive shale
Anyone saying she's lacking offensively has not yet seen the sauce
Fr I can kill so easily with her
I think she's too offensive actually
sand scarab
It would be one thing if she had her current kill power with limited combo strings, but she literally has true combos up to 90-100%
I want them gone 😭
Or at least require some thinking/outplaying to do
olive shale
Pretty dope
flint oriole
Does WW even have any armoured attacks? Swear she just has armour as a move
All her side dashes have massive hitboxes and are basically armored, same as her up special
violet mason
I can tell bro is struggling and fighting for being thought good of because of h...
You mad? Lol hop off ma meat said that days ago
Bro really scrolled up jus to be mad at sum1
violet mason
Ion gaf
violet mason
Prolly main gizmo
grave gyro
gizmo is shhit
grave gyro
But the car no real life!
Hahaha!
is insane comeback no one could ever see coming
goofy ass gangster
violet mason
Oh alrigh
lavish rivet
lmao
violet mason
😂
lavish rivet
eplains why ppl play this character
just wanna unleash their anger on a busted character
😆
violet mason
Real
grave gyro
yea is kinda true
lavish rivet
lmao based
grave gyro
i see the biggest most braindead human beings barely knowing how to combo and getting away with it by just playing overpowered characters like ww
lavish rivet
Ww barely has combos tho
wth are u on abt
lavish rivet
https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/comments/1d7xofa/was_just_playing_her_for_the_power_pledge_event/
i landed this against a WW and i dont even land her
wonder woman has crazy combos and confirms
violet mason
That aint even a true combo
grave gyro
goes to show how dumb and overpowered and easy she is if you pulled that out while playing her for a small quest i guess
violet mason
Jus depleted a dodge for a another connect
lavish rivet
That aint even a true combo
not all good combos need to be true
lavish rivet
Top top players wont do that
u defo didnt watch coinbox or mirrormans tourney
players like sandstorm were popping off with long combos from read
using their dodges to keep them going
lavish rivet
bruh
u might wanna watch some top wonderwoman with that confidence
the one thing u can't do is dodge her strings
violet mason
I know how they play
lilac cosmos
damn is this rlly how wonder woman players interact
I think WW players are the most miserable people alive
I think I've exclusively met toxic WW players
lilac cosmos
Whoever said top 1 lame as hel
Coming back to this after the temporary removal of IG, she is now the best character in the game without a doubt
violet mason
Coming back to this after the temporary removal of IG, she is now the best chara...
What happened to bugs
violet mason
😂
lilac cosmos
But still not on her level 🤷♂️
violet mason
Man i play black adam now so im coolin
lilac cosmos
WW is easier with stronger kill potential, more reach, better defense, and better combos
Maybe not combos actually
violet mason
Bro
lilac cosmos
Iron Giant can come back when he doesn't get a stock every time he hits you
clear drift
Wishing u had a car
Rog
midnight vine
fought this ww player named jungle holy crap that guy is ridiculously good
his spacing was amazing
like i can't even get close
lilac cosmos
like i can't even get close
WW has really safe hitboxes, almost as safe as BG
blazing lark
Mid character,.no comboes or kill moves
LMAO WHAT?
austere crypt
LMAO WHAT?
Deal with the truth bucko
midnight vine
https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/hXLwIIVRmZXjwYwMI/d1337e8Rcwlg?invite=c...
why not use youtube i'm not dowloading some app to watch a vid
sand scarab
Mid character,.no comboes or kill moves
Buff sair and side special they don't kill early enough. Make jab 1 full charge meter
sand scarab
why not use youtube i'm not dowloading some app to watch a vid
Just don't download the app lol
midnight vine
it's not allowing me to watch
sand scarab
Sorry bub
I posted something in combos you can look there, can't post files in here
Oh wait no I didn't
Now I did
midnight vine
breh that's not a true loop
violet mason
Yall dumb asf
midnight vine
the only thing that hit was the crouch cancel into dair
lol
but once in the air he can get out of that
don't get me wrong it is a 50/50 and ww do have a nice kit for follow up
so it's still good
sand scarab
Jolo without swagging with reverse up tilts you can literally combo people to 100 with very little opportunity to di 😂
At which point an absurd amount of moves in her kit will just delete people from center stage
sand scarab
but once in the air he can get out of that
What are you talking about??
You mean once they're out of the blender and in kill percent?
sand scarab
the only thing that hit was the crouch cancel into dair
And what crouch cancel??
midnight vine
i'm just saying he can dodge out of it
midnight vine
on the second dair?
sand scarab
on the second dair?
Yep
sand scarab
You dumb that shi dodgable
Nope
violet mason
You can he jus needs copin
sand scarab
Well, you're wrong
😂
I'm guessing you're thinking that the hitstun surely doesn't last that long
violet mason
Tired of seeing this “true combo 0 to death ww” clips
sand scarab
And unfortunately, it very much does
violet mason
Bro i see 3 opportunities to dodge on the first clip
midnight vine
remember you delay jumped
sand scarab
And that's besides the point that I just choose to do the reverse up tilt because jab --> dash --> jab --> Nair -- loop is too boring to do over and over again
sand scarab
remember you delay jumped
Jolo I'm telling you I've been doing this to people for days
midnight vine
@sand scarab yeah you can do like 3 loops
sand scarab
And they cannot get out of it
midnight vine
i do that but i usually just iad nair for follow up on up tilt depending on spacing
sand scarab
Bro i see 3 opportunities to dodge on the first clip
You don't, but okay
violet mason
Dair looks hella dodgable that spacing aint no way
midnight vine
bro just remember you waited for that jump
so you can get up on top so you can dair her
midnight vine
i think that guy just didn't react
sand scarab
😂
Yes lmao, that's exactly what I'm saying, because they literally can't
But if you don't want to learn new things be my guest
sand scarab
I was a top 5 wonder woman throughout a huge portion of the beta, why wouldn't you at least humor what I'm telling you 😂 if you don't want to get better that's fine
midnight vine
@sand scarab you ever play this guy jungle?
sand scarab
<@125680837764186112> you ever play this guy jungle?
In the beta, yes, but he played reindog and velma before
Was well accomplished in the comp scene
sand scarab
This isn't about you checking if this is real or not, do you realize that? If it doesn't work, you're doing it wrong hahahaha
violet mason
Oh so now im doing it wrong if it fails
sand scarab
Yes!
sand scarab
Oh I'm not worried, and if you need help don't bother asking you little turd 😂
violet mason
So now im a turd
Was being nice fr
Was giving ya a chance to see if u was righ
Jolo guess im a turd now for tryna try his combo
And give em feedback
😂
sand scarab
Don't lump yourself in with him if you want any help lol
midnight vine
In the beta, yes, but he played reindog and velma before
i see played him last night pretty ridiculous player
sand scarab
i see played him last night pretty ridiculous player
Jungle is a freak, super talented
austere crypt
Sorry bub
Why do we have to charge Dtilt for full knock back? Just let us insta blitz out fully charged fully loaded Dtilt
sand scarab
Why do we have to charge Dtilt for full knock back? Just let us insta blitz out ...
Why not also attach it to lasso she has no good ranged options
austere crypt
Why not also attach it to lasso she has no good ranged options
Just give the tip lasso park fully charged Dtilt lmao
midnight vine
And give em feedback
i really don't think it's a full combo i get what he is trying to accomplish cause the hit stun on walls is pretty long i just don't think that think that guy could've dodge out cause he had to delay the dair
idk
but if this guy says who he is he says
he probably knows more than me
sand scarab
Yall I've labbed it and done it to people over and over jfc hahahaha
violet mason
Bots have perfect dodge reaction times so cant even do it on this mf
Got a couple in
sand scarab
This is me
In my match history is Apache Gaming, another really talented beta player https://tracker.gg/multiversus/profile/wb/6286af26a56f016f9ef8ecfe/overview
Who was very much hit by these. People are mashing dodge/parry, if this didn't work it would have been very clear very quickly. But nope, over and over and over
violet mason
Alrigh i did da combo is aight
Wish we could combo lasso man
In da middle
Her lasso needs to be an auto hit
Regardless
lilac cosmos
Why do you type with an accent
violet mason
Why are you a joker main
violet mason
I rmr when her side special in da air was fast
I used to jus spam that n auto win
N dodge into enemy n up special spam
Good times
tawny lava
Anyone wanna 1v1 ft3
latent grotto
How y’all doin meta abusers
lilac cosmos
How y’all doin meta abusers
You strike me as a Harley main and if you are what are you yapping about Harley's top 3
rare wraith
pine gull
How y’all doin meta abusers
Chatting like your character ain't meta aswell 
violet mason
Why do you type with an accent
Idk
latent grotto
You strike me as a Harley main and if you are what are you yapping about Harley'...
No I’m a banana guard abuser because 3 attacks is all my brain can compute
lilac cosmos
No I’m a banana guard abuser because 3 attacks is all my brain can compute
Mf IS a meta player 😭
Top 5 character calling WW mains meta abusers
latent grotto
Yeah how my fellow meta abusers doing
violet mason
Unfortunately ww takes skill
glad sable
Best perks for her?
latent grotto
Unfortunately ww takes skill
Yee that’s why I won’t be touching her
violet mason
Go with what u like @glad sable
People use that lasso tip joint but i can never land that and punishable
violet mason
Yee that’s why I won’t be touching her
Lmao
lilac cosmos
Unfortunately ww takes skill
Unfortunately untrue
violet mason
Hows it untrue
latent grotto
The 5% buff to attack and defense is slept on
lilac cosmos
Hows it untrue
She gives free wins by being overpowered
violet mason
You gotta be really skull full to get off a good combo and again they arent true combos
latent grotto
You gotta be really skull full to get off a good combo and again they arent true...
Literally every character except like , bananaguard
latent grotto
Yet a bad ww will have advantage over a mid fin
violet mason
Shi that fin must be a bot
latent grotto
Combos in this game are easy in general
WW isn’t that hard to play compared to the actual weird characters
violet mason
They not even true combos most the times you gotta read and put then back into a combo
Skillwise
latent grotto
Again that’s how it goes for most characters
violet mason
Ww is the worst when it comes to it tho
Imo
Thats why most be spamming shield
Every chance they get
And then enemy has to run like a lil bih
Like if yall see my shield why yall running
Fight back
pine gull
Cause they think it's some kind of impenetrable wall
pine gull
I barely even use it that often
violet mason
Bro does bugs jus ignore her shield
Like is he an armor breaker
Shield doesnt work on this mf
pine gull
I use it to get back on stage safe or to tank an attack to survive a bugs up near the top
Other times I fat finger that shi
violet mason
Real
I gotta work on miss inputs
I up air too often
And get caught
What i really wanna do is f nair
violet mason
Wish the controls were like smash
pine gull
while my ass uses kbm cuz I cannot grasp my controller properly
midnight vine
Wish the controls were like smash
i started messing around with the sensitivity
and it feels a lot better when you lower it
than the default
the default 58 along with the 30 frame buffer is horrible
sand scarab
You gotta be really skull full to get off a good combo and again they arent true...
Stop coping, you're spreading misinformation
sand scarab
They're true combos, turd
You might not be willing to learn but other people might be
We need to get you your very own little man role
violet mason
I already got da combo down
Have yet to land it but when i do ima let u know
Online*
Til then fraud
Guilty until proven innocent
😂
sand scarab
I already got da combo down
Oh word, so you know you're wrong
violet mason
No how does that make me wrong if i got the combo down
If someone dodges it cuz ima record it obv
Then ur wrong
🤷 sounds fair righ
sand scarab
Little turd
violet mason
Aigh 😂
dry topaz
what are the best perks i can use on wonder woman
midnight vine
what are the best perks i can use on wonder woman
it's really up to your playstyle
easiest one to use is the normal whip
hephistus is great if you focus on spacing. Grapple is great if you like going full aggro
dry topaz
thank you
shrewd fiber
Black Lantern WW is the best
it's so cool
bleak smelt
bitter obsidian
Bruh I hate ww
She is so op rn
Every time I be winning against one they just switch to hyper armor and shield spam
Can't wait for the nerf🔥🔥
latent grotto
Bruh I hate ww
All you do is go into character chats to cry about characters. This is why discord should be 18+
bitter obsidian
All you do is go into character chats to cry about characters. This is why disco...
?
You have seen me in 2 chats
And you are using only both broken characters lol
And it's not like it's hidden info ww and bg are two of the best characters in the game rn with crazy stats
And it's no suprise that they are both likely contenders for a nerf come first patch
lilac cosmos
And it's not like it's hidden info ww and bg are two of the best characters in t...
Banana Guard is broken because ???
bitter obsidian
Just unfun for any new players, having to deal with a character that has kills at 60 with a huge hitbox and Long animation frames that last after dodge
And doesn't give much counterplay at all if you don't know how
Also very lethal in higher mmr if the bg is very good, I mean even some of the best players in the game lost to him on day 1
meager otter
All you do is go into character chats to cry about characters. This is why disco...
He isn’t wrong though lol
bitter obsidian
No I’m a banana guard abuser because 3 attacks is all my brain can compute
💀
latent grotto
He isn’t wrong though lol
He saw a clip about how there’s a 30 frame input buffer and thought that meant there was 30 frame input delay even after I explained him the difference.
bitter obsidian
30 frame😐
meager otter
He saw a clip about how there’s a 30 frame input buffer and thought that meant t...
Mayb wrong about that but the ww thing I’m passionate abt
I just come here to see counter play for her I’m ngl 💀
latent grotto
Yeah everyone knows WW is busted, but people who go into character discord just to complain about the character are always going to be annoying
meager otter
That’s fair
I think I made like one comment about how I can’t beat her a couple days ago here
The chainsaw on stripe is so good for getting through her armor so I don’t need much more counterplay though
latent grotto
Stripe player 😮 respekt
meager otter
Only of recent but he’s so much fun I already like him more than Harley
And I’m actually getting my wr up with him
First fighting game I think I actually found my character in
midnight vine
i really hate how everyone thinks this character is broken
like in other games i actually try not to play top tier characters lol
and it just so happen that ww was my first character in beta
now she's op
lol
bitter obsidian
Damn that bg and ww wr
midnight vine
huh?
meager otter
and it just so happen that ww was my first character in beta
Unfortunate, best advice is to just pray they don’t over nerf her
midnight vine
ehh.... i don't think she's broken
i don't even think they buff her all that much either from the beta just people finding new tech from the new game
i can see them reverting the lasso with c/d though
meager otter
ehh.... i don't think she's broken
Agree to heavily disagree
tidal sapphire
I played ww since beta cause I like light tanks and sword smack noise feel good. But she needs nerfs
midnight vine
I played ww since beta cause I like light tanks and sword smack noise feel good....
what do you think needs nerf?
tidal sapphire
I don't like that she can block heavy projectiles for one
bitter obsidian
Yeah she can even break bugs safe with one swing not even charged
tidal sapphire
She's pretty well rounded, so I guess it depends on where we want to push the character. Most of her nerfs in beta was making her slightly lighter and adding whiff frames
midnight vine
you mean buff?
tidal sapphire
What? No they did some small nerfs to her. In the beta
surreal pecan
While i also defend ww, but i know that she's on the list
Hopefully they'll not nerf a lot of her, at least becomes balance
tidal sapphire
I don't mind making her lighter, but it's so easy to kill people vertically currently. Might me the character resize or just the top zone too low
midnight vine
While i also defend ww, but i know that she's on the list
Hopefully they'll not ...
yeah i don't think they'll nerf her all that much i think her role makes too much sense on what mvs is trying to acomplish
like i do see them doing something small making her less versatile
but that's about it
blazing lark
Certain characters in the game will always be strong due to their kits. Nerfing Wonder Woman can only do so much.
Her abilties still exist.
She has so many options and utility. It's a good character.
midnight vine
exactly most of her buffs came from them changing the game
lol
it's not really that they purely buffed her
bitter obsidian
She will most likely still get hit due to her wr%
Only behind spammy banana guard and iron giant who got removed from the game lol
midnight vine
no one cares about that wr% it's raw value