Officially back
#Tom And Jerry
sacred urchin
hidden verge
Gamers
My TnJ is TOO washed
Need a cat and mouse main to help me get my powers back
Sparks I’m looking at you mane
latent thicket
I haven't played t&j in a while and I feel like I've improved lol
elfin jackal
Anyone know what tue most consistent loop against non huge chars is? Is it with jerry aerial downshot paddle or grounded downshot paddle?
Its doable against supes for example but against lighter chars they dont stick
subtle lotus
Bro its not an consistent loop first
Sencond its that its hard to start bc we got no combos
So you got to follow up an paddle dodge read
And you can get heavy punish if you fail
The loop its Diable so opponent can escape and dodge after that you will be vulnerable to any attack
So if you get the paddle
You got to follow di
And jump then jerry shot aiming down, too ground bounce
Then you got to keep reading the di
If you fail your opponent will wiff out of the paddle combo and will punish you
hidden verge
I haven't played t&j in a while and I feel like I've improved lol
Don’t care need a person to get me in the loop again
undone comet
Bro does this character have a kill confirm??
coarse jackal
Do Tom and Jerry players know how to do anything besides run all game?
subtle lotus
Bro does this character have a kill confirm??
Of course
subtle lotus
Do Tom and Jerry players know how to do anything besides run all game?
Your facing an noob tom and jerry player
subtle lotus
Bro does this character have a kill confirm??
You can one jab into down tilt
You can do at 80 percent
Jab jerry ground bounce tennis balls jump and up air
This its one but its not consistent so you got to read di
Paddle follow di then grounded up special, its a lil bit unconsistent so dont spam it a lot
drowsy nexus
Uhhh since when did rocket mouse not stop once canceled?
It doesn't blow up anymore. Jerry just flies straight up and dies now if you cancel the attack by dodging
Idk if this is a bug or intentional change
Anyone else notice this?
drowsy nexus
It doesn't blow up anymore. Jerry just flies straight up and dies now if you can...
Like I mean the rocket doesn't automatically explode and drop Jerry after not hitting anything
It just keeps going
drowsy nexus
Just cancell
No I mean like Jerry will just fly up into the blast zone and die now
subtle lotus
Oh yea
drowsy nexus
Is that a bug
If it is I hope it gets patched
I Hate it when tnj get bugged man
Oh well I guess I'll just have to deal with it
Wait a minute he does explode! So that means the rockets time was extended ig
Strange
I guess I just gotta be careful to NOT let Jerry fly straight up now
hidden verge
I guess I just gotta be careful to NOT let Jerry fly straight up now
Sparks
I’m bad at TnJ now
I’m washed
Help me get back to the holy ways
Of the cat chasing the mouse all game
drowsy nexus
What?
drowsy nexus
I’m bad at TnJ now
Is it because of the rocket?
hidden verge
What happened to the rocket
What have I missed
I need a good TnJ to whoop me for a few games and tell me what I’m doing wrong
So I can improve and have a 75% win rate again
hidden verge
Is it because of the rocket?
I’m at a 48% rn I’m dying sparks
drowsy nexus
I’m at a 48% rn I’m dying sparks
Alright alright I'll set up a custom game. But I'll warn ya I'm a bit out of the loop bc I haven't been playing as much
hidden verge
Alright alright I'll set up a custom game. But I'll warn ya I'm a bit out of the...
Thank you gamer
drowsy nexus
Nope. Now he dies before he explodes
hidden verge
Because the duration of the rocket isn’t enough to go out of the border
drowsy nexus
I'll show you
hidden verge
What in the mid
drowsy nexus
I presume it's a bug but I'm not 100% sure
hidden verge
You know my user right
hidden verge
Yurp
drowsy nexus
Nope. Now he dies before he explodes
At least that's what happened in training anyway
Huh
He lived that time
hidden verge
What
hidden verge
I was burnt out😭🙏
hidden verge
😭🙏
drowsy nexus
Either I'm going crazy or Jerry died on one map by flying into the sky box
drowsy nexus
Bruh i feel the rust coming off!
drowsy nexus
What happened to me
I was literally just like that yesterday no joke
I got the mouse!
drowsy nexus
It must be a bug
hidden verge
Probs
drowsy nexus
ANWAYS-
hidden verge
Alr continue the ruthless beating
drowsy nexus
AYYYY
hidden verge
I’m still bad😭🙏
drowsy nexus
Tbf that was probably karma on me
OH BOY MY FAVORITE MAP IS NEXT!
The trickshots tho
hidden verge
I’m so terrible 😭🙏
drowsy nexus
Not the cat your supposed to get the mouse
hidden verge
I’m getting cyber bullied
drowsy nexus
I'm still in the lobby
hidden verge
Oh dope
drowsy nexus
Okay time to get my OG open beta skin
drowsy nexus
If only custom matches counted as wins
Seeing Tom's fedora it fills you with determination
Ayyyy
hidden verge
Marvin announcer pack gives me happiness
drowsy nexus
Marvin announcer pack gives me happiness
WAIT YOU HAVE THAT ON TOO!?
drowsy nexus
Agreed
I just bought it today funnily enough
I've always wanted to though
My hands are getting tired lol
hidden verge
You were burnt out
hidden verge
Yep
drowsy nexus
Tom and Jerry are getting tiring
hidden verge
I was waiting
I was super high percentage
I was pretty sure I was gonna blow up like
drowsy nexus
Let's go
hidden verge
7 times that game
drowsy nexus
I was messing with your mind
That's why
I tend to do that
"I claim this battle in the name of Mars!"
Phew
drowsy nexus
I'm not even mad
hidden verge
Why this map
drowsy nexus
I'm just very very hurt
drowsy nexus
I'm just very very hurt
No that was a Marvin quote
hidden verge
I didn’t think I would blow up
drowsy nexus
I'm not actually hurt lol
hidden verge
Hmm
drowsy nexus
My Marvin isn't compared to my tnj
hidden verge
HOME FEILD ADVANTAGE BABYY
drowsy nexus
Wanna see me flex?
hidden verge
No not really
drowsy nexus
Aight
drowsy nexus
I got the skin
drowsy nexus
I got the skin
After a week of grinding
And getting help from someone
Almost had ya
drowsy nexus
This is like my first real time playing Smith tbh
drowsy nexus
If only I had access to Sonic or let alone Pac God.
drowsy nexus
Yea
hidden verge
Did I just catch you playing bugs rabbit.
hidden verge
For sure
drowsy nexus
Your seeing things
hidden verge
Mhm
hidden verge
I blew up
drowsy nexus
Ima go play Taz
hidden verge
Hmmm
drowsy nexus
You wanna know how I beat every rift?
hidden verge
Spam house Jake?
drowsy nexus
Me and my buddy Jake cheesed
drowsy nexus
My Jake also went from level 0 to 5 after all of that
And I'm not even a Jake player
drowsy nexus
Thats what I did for 7 plus rifts
Or however many there are
Anyways as much as I'd love to spar more I'm getting tired personally
Ima hop off for now
hidden verge
Alrighty
drowsy nexus
Good luck finding your groove again as tnj
hidden verge
Thanks for whooping me silly
drowsy nexus
Thanks for whooping me silly
Anytime
pliant talon
that "hit down specials" mission sucks, because they only count sometimes, not every down special like you'd think
midnight wraith
that "hit down specials" mission sucks, because they only count sometimes, not e...
I honestly think it only counts for the dynamite. The Mouse Trap doesn't count and hitting dynamite with the racket won't count because you used your neutral attack to send it flying (so the 3 dynamite perk after hit is useless for this), so you have to hit the opponent with the dynamite as you spawn it
pliant talon
thats the thing, went into easy rifts with max gems so things just, kill instantly
one time I used only mouse trap, it counted
when I hit retry over and over it stopped counting, but when I went back in fresh I used only dynamite and it counted
so maybe rematches stop it from counting further
the fact I even have to guess on what counts when it says "down special" is just insane
visual tiger
thats the thing, went into easy rifts with max gems so things just, kill instant...
Trap counts ONLY if it's on cooldown, meaning you need to hit the one that springs up automatically
pliant talon
they gotta fix that
both down specials are projectiles and you don't have code to detect that those projectiles hit, insane
rose beacon
Yeah I just figured this one out myself. My searching didn't find this explanation.
Tom and Jerry hit down special mission for Season 1 Blowout: When your "Snap Trap" moustrap is on cooldown, the fall back attack is an instant hitting mouse trap. The cooldown version is the only one that counts for the mission. Air down special "Look out below!" dynamite dropping doesn't count nor does hitting it with your tennis racket.
primal tangle
Nothing beats the feeling of doing this to a shaggy
https://clips.twitch.tv/StupidDignifiedBisonShadyLulu-1x9bGl0SwJopnxoA
visual tiger
they gotta fix that
both down specials are projectiles and you don't have code t...
Same goes for Shaggy's downspecial
you pull out a sandwich and toss it, it doesn't count
you need to hit the aerial version or the boosted grounded one
sandwich doesn't register as hitting down special
cyan whale
So, how are we feeling about the state of T&J?
cyan whale
Trap counts ONLY if it's on cooldown, meaning you need to hit the one that sprin...
Oh wait is that how it works? That’s so dumb. I was wondering why I wasn’t getting any progress
cyan whale
Nothing beats the feeling of doing this to a shaggy
https://clips.twitch.tv/Stup...
He deserved it. Shaggy’s who abandon their teammate to charge off stage are annoying. And this is coming from an actual Shaggy main
visual tiger
So, how are we feeling about the state of T&J?
I'd rework so much honestly
They are one of the most annoying characters rn
visual tiger
Annoying to play or annoying to play against?
Against
Yeah
But the few that DO exist are like
cyan whale
I was playing T&J yesterday and he feels decent but then I get hit and I just explode because he’s so light
visual tiger
The worst basement-dwelling campers
Those are the only TnJ players left
Which is sad
Cuz the character itself is cool
cyan whale
I’ve always played him a little more on the aggressive side
I’ll mix up between camping and rushing
He definitely feels a bit different from beta tho
I’m not used to the combo routes
visual tiger
Actually
cyan whale
But I will say I did 2-stock a Finn without taking a single hit and he just gave up and walked off stage for the win
visual tiger
I'd probably remove Jerry's hitbox when hitting back tennis balls
That makes it somewhat hard to approach Jerry for a lot of characters
cyan whale
If anything, I think Jerry should just have a little less health
Combined with the increased hit stop, hitting Jerry almost always gives Tom an opportunity to hit you and save Jerry
But if you could kill Jerry with one strong hit, it’d be worth it
visual tiger
I can see it
cyan whale
To my knowledge, only moves like Shaggy rage kick, Banana Guard buffed side special, Jason anything with rage, and maybe a few other moves can kill Jerry in one hit
Characters like Arya who deal little damage with single hits but make up for it with extended combos really just can’t kill Jerry at all
But honestly, I don’t really think T&J is a particularly strong character rn
They’re hard to play optimally with less reward than other characters with strong zoning tools like Morty
cyan whale
They’re like middle of the road imo
visual tiger
Like Bugs' safe
cyan whale
Just make it so purple attacks kill jerry instantly
Oh that could actually work
It would give everyone a way to deal with Jerry
I’d be in favor of that and then slightly reduce the cooldown time on Jerry to compensate
hidden verge
that "hit down specials" mission sucks, because they only count sometimes, not e...
The down special thing only works if you don’t hit it with your paddle
So dynamite only counts
If it drops on their head
So just get them to the edge use well rounded and drop bombs on their foreheads
hidden verge
I’d be in favor of that and then slightly reduce the cooldown time on Jerry to c...
Isn’t cooldown on Jerry 15 seconds?
cyan whale
Maybe? Idk the exact cooldown
subtle lotus
So, how are we feeling about the state of T&J?
Pretty good, strong, and balanced character, we are cooking pretty well.
They wont nerf him bc his only broken tool its his combo paddle into jerry shot, but its easy to punish, easy to escape, paddle has no combo starter so there its an plus disadvantage, and if you mix your Di's you can escape very easy, so if your an good tom and jerry player you khow how to use it in your benefit
For those new tom and jerrys
Or those who arent experimented at the character
I got to give you some tips
Tom and Jerry, be an pro:
- Jerry Shots: Aim correctly and always look for an jerry shot. So jerry shot its the best move on tom and jerry and the best projectile in game, bc his an active hitbox in all the frames, so you got to look for hitting the jerry shot for the khockback and interrupting attacks. Also you can get heavy punish if you fail potentially losing your jerry.
Also great combo starter, and kill move, if you think that you can hit the jerry shot at the edge that will be an confirmed takedown, so try to get that jerry move if your good enough, if you didnt practice, pls dont do it, do not lose your jerry
cyan whale
They wont nerf him bc his only broken tool its his combo paddle into jerry shot,...
Yeah, I noticed that none of the hits of jab combo into paddle like in the beta
subtle lotus
Yeah, I noticed that none of the hits of jab combo into paddle like in the beta
Let me continue
- Jerry management: After you hit an jerry shot, your opponent will try to kill your jerry so you got to protect him, this are all your resources: Corks, Tennis Balls, Rod, Dash Attack, Rocket. So dont let your jerry die, you got to keep him alive as long as you can, if you can trade your jerry life for an stock would be great with an jerry snipe.
subtle lotus
- Gameplan and Combos: Tom and Jerry gameplan its to use all the time jerry shot bc of his khockback and combo starter, also the best way to combo with jerry shot its by doing jerry aiming him down, that makes an ground bounce effect with good hitstun, also dont try to spam that much projectiles if its not done at an good way you sill get heavy punish so remember that.
Tom and Jerry combos are amazing, so first we got an crazy 50/50 that its easy to do, after doing 3 jabs we just charge the paddle then wait to the moment when they dodge, so you got to see where they dodge then realese quickly your paddle(if you miss you will get heavy punish so be carefull and practice it after doing on an real match), so after you get the paddle you got to read di then jump into ground bounce jerry shot then you repeat the sequence till they are at 100% then you can jab into down tilt, you can paddle into junp and dair, then get an up special(not consistent). Also remember to keep reading the di, your opponent can escape easily from the combo and then punish you if you dont read the di, so you got to lock on, see the di and mix di's.
primal tangle
it's in the bundle no?
tacit isle
you can only get this bundle if you dont own skin from event
hidden verge
you can only get this bundle if you dont own skin from event
Bro
WHY
WHY MUST THEY PUNISH US FOR DOING CHALLENGES
primal tangle
iron giant & tom gotta be the most goated 2's comp
hidden verge
Matrix code Tom and Jerry is pretty peak
primal tangle
matrix skins all look bad imo
their idea of giving the same skin to all fighters is a very cheap one imo
subtle lotus
matrix skins all look bad imo
They are goated, your saying that bc you didnt watch matrix in your life
cyan whale
Wow the WW matchup really sucks
Her shield just outright beats Jerry
One shots him too
primal tangle
They are goated, your saying that bc you didnt watch matrix in your life
I watched all 4 movies and I still dont like them
subtle lotus
I watched all 4 movies and I still dont like them
Bro they are goated, that skins look so fire🔥
subtle lotus
I watched all 4 movies and I still dont like them
Forget matrix 4 that its completely trash
-10/10
old night
i've beaten a wonder woman with 1k wins while trying to learn this character
i'm in love with this character
cyan whale
i've beaten a wonder woman with 1k wins while trying to learn this character
That’s crazy because that matchup blows for T&J
latent thicket
i've beaten a wonder woman with 1k wins while trying to learn this character
Prob rift farmed
subtle lotus
That’s crazy because that matchup blows for T&J
If your good you can win every character
I won an 7k wins superman
patent prawn
There is no necessarily impossible mus
cyan whale
If your good you can win every character
Well sure every character can win. But my personal win rate in that matchup is probably close to 20% and the players I’m beating are just worse at the game
somber gate
Never really run into them unless they on rotation
hidden verge
TnJ shouldn’t lose his loop for 3 REASONS.
- His loop isn’t universal meaning it doesn’t work for every character in the game actually it only works for a few characters in the game that have a big hit box
2 his loop stops working at 100 and around 80 for smaller characters meaning it’s not an instant win button AND if you target Jerry the loop is useless because it’s not possible to do
3 if you miss paddle or jerry the punishment is insane considering he’s one of the lightest characters in the game also removing his loop would make characters like Superman and Jason roll over him
(Bonus he’s fine how he is I wouldn’t chance him at all)
Is this a good argument
somber gate
Loop is funny
drowsy nexus
TnJ shouldn’t lose his loop for 3 REASONS.
1. His loop isn’t universal meaning i...
Yeah but paddle needs a nerf
agile blade
WW tj is so frustrating, and now we finna have another sworide
patent prawn
Yeah but paddle needs a nerf
Why?
drowsy nexus
Why?
Continuous charge, can walk back and forth with it, he’s safe so you can’t punish him if you tried because I’ve tried and he just dodges, covers all options in the air, leads into down air into up air or at lower percentages it just straight up allows him to do the slingshot loop
I wouldn’t mind it if he moves with it though because him moving with it isn’t as wild as the other things it does, but it’s spam able and he can convert off it
patent prawn
Honestly my main issue is at the end and during the attack it hits the sides of him
drowsy nexus
Honestly my main issue is at the end and during the attack it hits the sides of ...
The hitbox on it is kinda wild too that move has scooped me up from the ground before
patent prawn
It just doesn’t feel like it should
drowsy nexus
Honestly my main issue is at the end and during the attack it hits the sides of ...
M^^^
patent prawn
If those were nerfed I would say its fine because you could punish him for doing the move
Maybe also nerfing the endlag a bit but aside from that its chilling
drowsy nexus
If those were nerfed I would say its fine because you could punish him for doing...
Yeah I feel the same everything else about tnj is fine and he’s beatable. Paddle just feels like there’s little to no counter play is all
I’m fine with everything else. Paddle just feels a little too free. That move has either collided with my move in the air or simply just beats it out
patent prawn
Yeah
drowsy nexus
And the fact that it leads into his loop is crazy. Maybe doing a combo off it isn’t as bad as I’m making it but it definitely is a strong move
drowsy nexus
Until you realize you can combo into it
Yeah this ^^^
patent prawn
Tho my main thing is literally just nerf the hitboxes
If they made a method of seeing hitboxes in MVS that would be fantastic
drowsy nexus
Everything else is fine like I said. Jerry dies in one hit LOL in open beta he was a tank and took like 3-4 hits
patent prawn
Yeesh
I would say it may be better if Jerry survives a little longer since someone like Rosa and Luma are underpowered partly due to Luma being so easy to kill (at least I assume)
cyan whale
Honestly, I don’t really think paddle needs a nerf
Yeah it’s strong for combos but like it’s death on whiff especially if you charge it
You can’t jump or dodge to cancel until the final hit
Just throw a projectile or use a burst option to hit Tom
drowsy nexus
I see your point but it’s easier said than done. Paddle sometimes scoops me from the ground, it’s hard to contest in the air because it’s a really really good anti air and yeah you can combo off it and loop with slingshot. I’ve tried punishing tnj after they do paddle and they immediately dodge. It doesn’t feel like the move has room to punish it
cyan whale
It was way less punishable in beta
jovial pond
cyan whale
Yeah if you DI correctly, you can escape. I’ve noticed that too
Unless you’re playing Jason lmao
Faced a WW who was toxic after taking the first stock
I then proceeded to absolutely destroy her
I don’t get why people are so toxic
I faced a Reindog earlier who was super chill and applauded my good plays and I gave him a homie stock when he accidentally SD’ed
Why can’t more people be like that?
cyan whale
Bro I just got a sick play against a Morty but my recording bugged out and is just black screen
subtle lotus
TnJ shouldn’t lose his loop for 3 REASONS.
1. His loop isn’t universal meaning i...
Its not even an true loop you got to read di
Its just an combi
Its an combo
And if you fail you get heavy punish
Plus you have no true combo to start it
Its fine
peak idol
Yeah exactly what I would say, DI is a huge factor, we dont live in the ages of abuse one infinite combo anymore, you gotta actually read dodges and DI
midnight wraith
That's sick as hell ngl
primal tangle
IKR. I am just hoping it doesnt cost a kidney
primal tangle
it's different but still good.
cyan whale
IKR. I am just hoping it doesnt cost a kidney
No it’ll probably just cost 80 hours a week with no overtime
primal tangle
No it’ll probably just cost 80 hours a week with no overtime
I dont mind spending time. I have a lot of it
subtle lotus
The skin its 15 dollars, love you warner bros
Bro like they are giving nothing to the battlepass on glemium
primal tangle
The skin its 15 dollars, love you warner bros<:AngryMarvin:1043242212646993920>
where did u get the info on pricing?
midnight wraith
They done took away our up air sweetspot lol
cyan whale
They done took away our up air sweetspot lol
I don’t think I’ve hit it even once tbh
midnight wraith
I don’t think I’ve hit it even once tbh
It was too small to hit, so they took it out lol
stoic schooner
It was too small to hit, so they took it out lol
Thats fair tbh or am i wrong
But they left Finn alone
midnight wraith
Honestly, his up air was pretty powerful even without the sweet spot, so it doesnt really change much
cyan whale
But they left Finn alone<:AngryMarvin:1043242212646993920>
Finn remains a top tier 
stoic schooner
Honestly, his up air was pretty powerful even without the sweet spot, so it does...
I never hit it so
stoic schooner
Finn remains a top tier <:crying_steven:1007095198276407386>
Someone on the Dev team is a Finn player i can tell
midnight wraith
Someone on the Dev team is a Finn player i can tell
We know about one being a WW main and they buffed her, sooo...
cyan whale
Yeah idk how many times the dev working on Finn needs to get zero to deathed by him to realize he’s too strong in comparison to the rest of the cast
stoic schooner
We know about one being a WW main and they buffed her, sooo...
THEY WHAT
cyan whale
No lasso cooldown
midnight wraith
They removed the lasso cooldown
stoic schooner
More whiff lag tho which is good
So more punishable
cyan whale
Yeah
midnight wraith
Screw being a WW main, Imma wreck them with Samurai Jack
stoic schooner
Screw being a WW main, Imma wreck them with Samurai Jack
Were gonna see so many Samurai Jacks
midnight wraith
Were gonna see so many Samurai Jacks
Makes sense though, new character release + potential new high tier
Also cool af ranked skins
stoic schooner
Makes sense though, new character release + potential new high tier
He looks like a S Tier or High A Tier
subtle lotus
Well we are cooking pretty well
We are still strong
We got an buff on the up special
But our sweetspot got removed
Its ok
stoic schooner
But our sweetspot got removed
No one even landed the sweet spot
stoic schooner
I didnt even know it existed untill now
subtle lotus
A tier character
Now im grinding gizmo
But im an T&J
my 1 main: T&J
my 2 main: Gizmo
stoic schooner
my 1 main: T&J
my 2 main: Gizmo
My mains are T&J and Bugs
hidden verge
My mains are T&J and Bugs
Bugs…
stoic schooner
I made Bugs my Secondary
hidden verge
and your OUT
stoic schooner
Main
subtle lotus
Bugs got any combos, bc only spams his up air
stoic schooner
I’ll take a wack at it
Just let it all out
subtle lotus
Damm airwalker got nerfed
stoic schooner
Damm airwalker got nerfed
I never used it
stoic schooner
Damn how much trauma u have from Bugs
hidden verge
Up air trauma is a very real thing I should go to therapy for
I’ve been hit by that baseball bat so many times I know the voice lines
midnight wraith
SEEERRRRIKE!
stoic schooner
I’ve been hit by that baseball bat so many times I know the voice lines
Well its a strong kill move
hidden verge
SEEERRRRIKE!
YOUR OUT
stoic schooner
What i have i done to this community
midnight wraith
Hey Doooc, you'RE FLOOPY DISK IS SHOWIN!
stoic schooner
Hey Doooc, you'RE FLOOPY DISK IS SHOWIN!
Bugs Bunny:What do i look like some witless pubestant
agile blade
Does anyone know where to find hardcore fox vods I heard he has the best results rn
shrewd badge
What do you do against BA
vital hedge
Air Up Attack
– Sweetspot removed
This sweetspot was misconfigured and near-impossible to hit. Tom & Jerry’s air up attack was already strong without the sweetspot so the sweetspot has been removed
Air Up Special
- Now launches Tom higher on start-up
I didn't know T&J does have Sweetspot about air up attack
subtle lotus
Yo tom and jerry feels so smooth
For me s tier
But arya stark its so op
T&J its strong
midnight wraith
I don't think they're S tier, but they are definitely high A tier
cyan whale
Idk like when T&J work they feel godlike, but then you get hit and explode at 50
Like I’ve legitimately had one bad dodge against a Black Adam and died at 30 to sair and it doesn’t feel good
midnight wraith
As long as you have perfect movement and read the opponent correctly, Tom & Jerry are very good, but with how light you are, you'll die to a hard hit
cyan whale
Theoretically T&J are like high A potentially low S tier, but practically they’re more like low A tier maybe even high B tier
drowsy nexus
Yoooo samurai jack has character dialog for tnj!
nocturne ferry
I heard!
agile blade
wait is the leaderboard actually acurate
rotund mulch
Paddle carries this character imo
somber gate
act like ur playing street fighter and dont jump
verbal heron
Paddle carries this character imo
Definitely
summer rivet
Paddle carries this character imo
nah it's jerry, funny lil mouse
subtle lotus
Paddle carries this character imo
Paddle?, its jerry snipe
And paddle isnt an broken move
You can di and escape of paddle easily, we got to read the di to combo
So just mix up your di
cyan whale
Yeah paddle is more of a high risk high reward move
It’s death on whiff especially considering how light Tom is
As Shaggy, I have time to charge rage if Tom misses charged paddle
That’s how punishable it is
broken depot
i feel like every new stage is worse and worse for tom and jerry
cyan whale
I’m still trying to feel out water tower
On one hand, the platforms make it easier for the opponent to avoid projectiles, but on the other hand, paddle -> uair kills stupid early on the side platforms
Probably still worse overall for Tom tho
subtle lotus
i feel like every new stage is worse and worse for tom and jerry
Tom and jerry its super strong if you master him and use all of his tools
His not mean to be an braindead spammer you cant just spam paddle its super punisheable
subtle lotus
@sour tide bro i just fought you in ranked, bro 145 hp, samurai jack disgusting spam bro
sour tide
<@456252826008551426> bro i just fought you in ranked, bro 145 hp, samurai jack ...
bro you got read like a book last stock try to do anything but loop like jack vs t&j is genuinely horrible
nocturne ferry
honestly the T&J mu into jack sucks imo
that could just be my major skill issue though
sour tide
jack doesn't have anything to deal with projectiles unfortunately, his command grab sucks and if he whiffs it's a free punish
and side b is his best way of killing jerry but it can be interrupted by corks stupid easy
nocturne ferry
true
subtle lotus
bro you got read like a book last stock try to do anything but loop like jack vs...
I was reading you all the match dang it bro
Jack its just side special spam
nocturne ferry
yeh
subtle lotus
But tbh his edgeguard its so good
sour tide
dude i used side special like twice, majority to kill jerry and 90% of those attempts didn't work
subtle lotus
Like his spike
nocturne ferry
yeah
subtle lotus
dude i used side special like twice, majority to kill jerry and 90% of those att...
I was using di
sour tide
on a one hit move ?
like i have the clip you mashed down air like four times obviously you're gonna get punished heavy
subtle lotus
Well i was playing my first games of the day
But well gg
Atleast i got some reads
sour tide
gg hope to never fight you again (nothing against you i just don't like fighting T&J)
subtle lotus
Ik, he is like one read into paddle string combo
I lit let you cooked at 1 move, idk why i always struggle to kill, i always let someone like 145 health then i die
elfin jackal
anyone know if tnj dmg at the end screen is bugged?
it shows like half the dmg i do in 1v1s
cyan whale
It’s also possible it’s just bugged because I’ve seen that happen even in rifts where you need to deal like 50 special damage and I’ll easily have dealt like 80 but it won’t track
cunning basin
It’s death on whiff especially considering how light Tom is
Unless it's Jason.
He's tall enough to where you can walk into him even if it whiffs.
cunning basin
🥹
cyan whale
I feel bad every time I see a Jason and I wanna say I have somewhere around a 90% win rate against him
The dash attack breaking projectiles isn’t enough
open crypt
I heard there was a loop for tom and jerry
Can someone show me a video how to do it?
open crypt
Wait the loop is gone?
fathom wadi
Wait the loop is gone?
No they just made it harder to do
But they just keep taking and never giving ir helping and this character just isn't that good anymore
open crypt
Thats PFG games to ya
Just look at iron giant
Or finn that can make a 0 to death
And charge for a long time his attacks
Or black adam aerial neutral attack
cyan whale
And its still top 1
Probably not with this patch anymore
And a lot of top players thought Joker is better anyway
cyan whale
Or finn that can make a 0 to death
And charge for a long time his attacks
Finn getting away with no nerfs to his absurd zero to death is insane
vernal lynx
Wonder woman in meta its big l
wellthe managers are WW mains so what do you expect
it's called bias
old night
i love when my opponent is at 170 percent but i die at 80
young mortar
tom has zero change...
rotund mulch
What in gods name is that frying pan hitbox
young mortar
What in gods name is that frying pan hitbox
not ony that its not kill conf or true combo able
subtle lotus
not ony that its not kill conf or true combo able
yeah, Tom and jerry its an balance character, you got to be good to use it correctly and even if you use it perfectly you still going to be losing to the meta
verbal heron
i love when my opponent is at 170 percent but i die at 80
Fr..tbh I found that the fishing rod seems to kill a bit better??
old night
Fr..tbh I found that the fishing rod seems to kill a bit better??
it's hard to hit the rod
i find
verbal heron
Definitely though, the way it's controlled is kinda wacky at times?
upper geyser
I love hitting hitting people with air up special near ledge
young mortar
yeah, Tom and jerry its an balance character, you got to be good to use it corre...
wrong chat but just wanna say i main bugs now lol
hidden verge
Is it just me or is up air better than it used to?
I feel like I’m launching higher than I usually do
I’m killing at like 120
When I used to
Kill at like
150
And I’m loving it
And his up special buff was Ight
hidden verge
Hot take but Tom’s best ability would be dynamite split if they gave him one extra ammo
upper geyser
T&J should have a 1940 Variant
subtle lotus
Hot take but Tom’s best ability would be dynamite split if they gave him one ext...
No, tom best ability its jerry shot
visual tiger
Ong
hidden verge
No, tom best ability its jerry shot
I’m talking about his signature perk
hidden verge
I’m not talking about his move set
But his signature perk
Rn well rounded is just better
subtle lotus
But less ammo
hidden verge
And it bounces across the whole map
subtle lotus
Ik
hidden verge
Dynamite split explodes instantly
subtle lotus
Well rounded its like for doing dmg
hidden verge
No it’s not well rounded makes them step away further back
Because it bounces twice before exploding
subtle lotus
That dynamite its use to protect jerry
subtle lotus
Yes
hidden verge
It freezes you in the air
subtle lotus
It does bro
hidden verge
And if you hit it in a direction
subtle lotus
When you throw jerry
hidden verge
It bounces towards where you want it to go
subtle lotus
You can do a lot of options to cover him
hidden verge
If your in a pickle you drop dynamite
hidden verge
You don’t use it to guard Jerry
subtle lotus
The problem its that your opponent can go for you
So you throw jerry
Dynamite
Rod
hidden verge
Not if you are far enough away
subtle lotus
And rocket
hidden verge
If they get hit with dynamite
You can get into a down pan Jerry shot downwards combo
subtle lotus
He can do that
He can set up a lot of thinks
All of his moveset can be set up with jerry
stoic schooner
it's dying 10 times more than the usual
No bc T&J are light and die easily
primal tangle
No bc T&J are light and die easily
do u even understand what I am talking about?
stoic schooner
do u even understand what I am talking about?
I miss read Jerry dies easily
stoic schooner
Which one is better for T&J 5% or Dynamite Split
subtle lotus
Which one is better for T&J 5% or Dynamite Split
I was an dynamite split enjoyer, but now, i have seen all the potential of 5%
5% its the best
You can do great set ups
subtle lotus
it's dying 10 times more than the usual
Jerry since always got low health, you got to manage him, and protect him to not die
So you got to use: rocket, fishing rod, corks, tennis balls(if they are to near of jerry), approach.
The main gameplay of T&J its jerry shots, set ups, and not letting jerry die
If jerry die your the worst character
primal tangle
Jerry since always got low health, you got to manage him, and protect him to not...
I have 2000 games on them, I know how it works. I am complaining about the new patch
stoic schooner
Jerry since always got low health, you got to manage him, and protect him to not...
They need to give him more health
subtle lotus
I have 2000 games on them, I know how it works. I am complaining about the new p...
He didnt got touched bro
His the same
primal tangle
doesnt matter, this patch is new
subtle lotus
I alr played an top T&J player on us
subtle lotus
doesnt matter, this patch is new
He didnt got touched this patch
primal tangle
🤦🏻♂️
primal tangle
jerry has lower health
stoic schooner
They remove his sweetspot
No one of the T&J players landed since full release
primal tangle
it's killable by almost every move now
subtle lotus
jerry has lower health
He didnt got touched recently on his health
But he can get kill pretty easy
If we cant get more health, give more corks
stoic schooner
If we cant get more health, give more corks
I really dont know bc i have to throw myself in front of jerry to save him
subtle lotus
I really dont know bc i have to throw myself in front of jerry to save him
You dont have to do thst if you want
stoic schooner
You dont have to do thst if you want
My opps targets him
subtle lotus
idk about you guys. but it feels very different
For me he feels the same but smoother
subtle lotus
My opps targets him
Use corks
And get him with rod
While covering the front woth dynamite
primal tangle
do you play 1's or 2's? and do you count on loops?
subtle lotus
So its safer
subtle lotus
do you play 1's or 2's? and do you count on loops?
Only 1s player
primal tangle
I am only 2s
stoic schooner
Only 1s player
Me too
primal tangle
and I dont use loops
stoic schooner
T&J its pretty different in 1s and 2s gimick
AND NEEDS A BRAIN TO PLAY😱
subtle lotus
AND NEEDS A BRAIN TO PLAY😱
I think you need some tips for him in 1d
1s
I could give you a lot of them
I got 50/50 into inf combo
Set ups with jerry
Ik everything about this character
stoic schooner
I need them bc im trying to get the loops down
subtle lotus
I fought some top players with him and won
subtle lotus
I need them bc im trying to get the loops down
You dont khow how to loop?
primal tangle
how many tnjs over diamond in 1's and 2's?
stoic schooner
You dont khow how to loop?
I know one of them
stoic schooner
how many tnjs over diamond in 1's and 2's?
Im in Silver with them💀
subtle lotus
Im almost Diamond, but i dont have thst much time to grind to master
Il do some grind
At the end of the season il get master T&J
stoic schooner
Paddle into jerry shot
? Isnt Paddle into Jab a loop?
stoic schooner
Oh
subtle lotus
? Isnt Paddle into Jab a loop?
Ofc no
primal tangle
rank system is just another top dog anyway
subtle lotus
rank system is just another top dog anyway
Fr😕
But well thats how ranked works
The concept its there but you need to add deranked
subtle lotus
Ive seen that tho
Il teach you later how to do it
But you got to follow di
And dont have an combo starter
So you got to do an 50/50
stoic schooner
Il teach you later how to do it
Im up to 1am
subtle lotus
Ok
stoic schooner
Does anyone know how to fight heavy armoured character including Steven bc of the Shields
hidden verge
Does anyone know how to fight heavy armoured character including Steven bc of th...
Dynamite split
trim zealot
Also down air and Jerry shot. Angle it down for a further extension.
Just make sure to cancel into a jump on the 3rd hit, not the 4th.
If you want to hit up special then you cancel it on 4th.
dense delta
For a duo known for their iconic screams of panic and pain, they sure are unnervingly silent when it comes to taking hits. They only really scream during taunts or when KO'd.
south sluice
ornate rampart
How does they kill?
neon kelp
they dont
potent vine
they pray
neon kelp
and die on 100%
stoic schooner
and die on 100%
😐
potent vine
🫴 🥩
stoic schooner
thats the truth
Yea bc were light
neon kelp
no shot
potent vine
🥩
🫴
drifting pollen
Yeah bro Tom and Jerry really has like 2 moves that will really kill at a certain point his fishing hook and rocket but they both can get punished pretty easily
neon kelp
yea
potent vine
👅 🥩
neon kelp
dodging the rocket makes you invincible to it even you hit the opponent multiple times
potent vine
if you hit them again with it*
yes and it's the same for garnet
prolly most of the characters too
cyan whale
Idk if Jerrug is in the server because I don’t see an @ but this is the third time I’ve run into him in ranked within the past like 10 games
neon kelp
cool
midnight wraith
Idk if Jerrug is in the server because I don’t see an @ but this is the third ti...
That name sounds familiar
stoic schooner
Why are some people putting T&J in S Tier?
hidden verge
Why are some people putting T&J in S Tier?
Because he wasn’t touched this season
Batman situation all over again
You don’t touch a character and everybody else gets nerfed
He’s bound to rise
stoic schooner
But like he’s no Morty
Morty gameplay is just smashing buttons repeatly
agile blade
THis gon sound dumb but how tf do I get the loops consistent
primal tangle
THis gon sound dumb but how tf do I get the loops consistent
u cant. it's not true
agile blade
Okay so im not dumb thank god
Ive be been doing combos consistent but i hear everyone complain about loops
pliant talon
so how are you supposed to fight tom and jerry
like actually
stoic schooner
so how are you supposed to fight tom and jerry
like actually
Patience
And abuse their light weight
trim zealot
Ive be been doing combos consistent but i hear everyone complain about loops
You can do up tilt/jab 3> down angle Jerry shot> up tilt> jab 3>jerry shot> up tilt> jump Jerry shot> tennis ball> up air. This isn’t a “loop” but does good damage and puts your opponent in a bad spot. Depending on how your opponent DIs your up tilt you may have to jump before Jerry shots but it should still be true.
keen swan
Tom and Jerry mains do you find it legitimately fun to play this character? I’m not even trying to be rude or anything I’m genuinely curious
I genuinely want T&J matchup experience but this character is so boring to fight imo I just get annoyed
trim zealot
Tom and Jerry mains do you find it legitimately fun to play this character? I’m ...
Played them since closed beta. Most fun projecile character I’ve played in a platform fighter ever. Even though the options aren’t great we do have combo starters and limited brawling options with good neutral.
You need to play patiently against us. Wait until we shoot jerry far away from us and predict how we’ll try to recover him.
Don’t immediately jump to killing him.
Also make us use our dynamite until we run out. It may take one (dynamite split), or 3 uses but then we’ll be out of dynamite.
keen swan
That’s what makes it so infuriating for me
I’m a Finn main I want to get in and attack not sit on the other side and play peek a boo 😔
Also how in the world do I get out of ping pong loop??
Is it DI and jump up then down air?
Do I dodge down?
Where the hell do I go?
trim zealot
DI up to make it harder, but any good player will still hit you with the combo. It’s not a loop though. Just a really good combo.
upper geyser
Why do T&J projectiles don't hit the opponent after they have dodged once?
The opponent just goes through after they have dodged them once
cyan whale
Why do T&J projectiles don't hit the opponent after they have dodged once?
That happens for all projectiles
Even something like Lebron’s basket ball bouncing up and down
Dodge once and you won’t get hit by it
upper geyser
That happens for all projectiles
It feels useless for them to bounce of walls after they've been dodged once
cyan whale
I think you can reactive them if you hit them again with racket
chrome sail
they made dynamite some transcendent projectile
subtle lotus
pfg dont want loop in the game
His not going to get nerfed, its not an loop bc its not an true combo
Its just an combo string
And its not going to get nerfed
If you miss it you get heavy punish and could loss the stock bc of your light weight
And paddle string got no combo starter
If your new with T&J, il tell you this
To improve your gameplay
So for start doing the paddle string
You need to do an 50/50 situation
So you do 3 jabs
Then hold your paddle
And wait to the opponent to dodge, if he dont just realese it quickly(if you fail you get heavy punish so be careful
When your opponent dodge you follow up with an paddle
When you got your opponent, you got to read his di first
Dont junp and jerry shot to early
Bc they can escape
You got to read the di and follow it
While your doing that you do the combo string
Also your best tool its jerry shot so paddle its not good for spam it
Its an high risk, high reward move, if you fail it your done
Bc got a lot of end lag
agile blade
Tom and Jerry mains do you find it legitimately fun to play this character? I’m ...
Prolly the coolest puppet chracter ive ever seen
dense delta
What determines whether or not Jerry aims the towards the foe when he's alone??
stoic schooner
Bc got a lot of end lag
Im calling it rn its gonna get nerfed bc some people complain about it
primal tangle
His not going to get nerfed, its not an loop bc its not an true combo
what?
cyan whale
What determines whether or not Jerry aims the towards the foe when he's alone??
You do. If you’re talking about corks, the direction Tom is facing will determine of Jerry shoots them to the right or left. To have Jerry shoot off a cork, you just need to perform any unique move (ie. Multiple hits of jab will only make Jerry shoot one cork). For tennis balls, Jerry will always hit them back towards Tom and the arc changes based on how far away you are from Jerry
subtle lotus
Im calling it rn its gonna get nerfed bc some people complain about it
A lot of people cry about all the characters
This its simple, that attack its not even good
Bc you got to do an 50/50, you can escape easily if you khow how to mix di
People cry bc of skill issue
But paddle its super punishable and when you miss the hitbox its bad, and the endlag make you super vulnerable
stoic schooner
But paddle its super punishable and when you miss the hitbox its bad, and the en...
Basically in a nutshell People cant fight T&J
subtle lotus
Basically in a nutshell People cant fight T&J
They dont khow how to fight against him, maybe bc this its his first platform figther
And got no experience
stoic schooner
They dont khow how to fight against him, maybe bc this its his first platform fi...
Yea true
Btw you mind helping working on my TnJ?
subtle lotus
Btw you mind helping working on my TnJ?
Ofc
I could help but its very complex
Maybe later
stoic schooner
I could help but its very complex
I dont really care i like expert characters bc you have to put time into them
stoic schooner
Maybe later
Just ping me when your ready
ornate rampart
I love t&j but It's hard to kill with them
Rocket is easily dodgeable, and I'm not really the best with Tom's fishing rod
9ften than not I don't really use it, should i?
primal tangle
Rocket is easily dodgeable, and I'm not really the best with Tom's fishing rod
use rocket when they are charging their attack animations
low shell
@ornate rampart I'm fishing rod king
ornate rampart
<@592926706906562560> I'm fishing rod king
How does you use it effectively?
trim zealot
How does you use it effectively?
After your opponent uses all their dodges in the air. Remember to release the special button just before the hook hits the opponent for the sweet spot.
low shell
@ornate rampart well I use it great because my homeboi put so much pressure on people so I usually just throw it out an wait till someone steps on it an then I reel in the longer you leave the hook out the more powerful it is
trim zealot
<@592926706906562560> well I use it great because my homeboi put so much pressur...
The farther it travels the more damage it does.
woeful epoch
Get rid of this characters loops
stoic schooner
Get rid of this characters loops
DI:
trim zealot
What’s this noob catching loop I’ve been hearing about?
woeful epoch
Idk post a clip of what’s catching you
stoic schooner
Literally does nothing
????
trim zealot
No, people have been complaining about “loops” on T&J a lot and idk what they’re talking about. I’ve labbed them a bunch and found no loops.
stoic schooner
Literally does nothing
Does DI scare you that much?
low shell
@trim zealot aww fr I just hate platforms with the hook
keen swan
No, people have been complaining about “loops” on T&J a lot and idk what they’re...
It’s because of the weird 50/50 ping pong thing requiring basically mixing DI, but even that doesn’t guarantee your escape. So people as always with MVS are quick to complain about it until it’s gone
trim zealot
What’s the 50/50 ping pong thing though?
woeful epoch
Have DId every way. Does nothing
primal tangle
Have DId every way. Does nothing
tnj loop isnt true
woeful epoch
It is on my character
stoic schooner
It is on my character
Who do you play
woeful epoch
I love when people say just DI lol. Like I’m not doing that and mashing dodge
stoic schooner
I love when people say just DI lol. Like I’m not doing that and mashing dodge
They patched that out while in combos i think
trim zealot
Does this “loop” have anything to do with up tilt/jab and Jerry shot?
stoic schooner
Does this “loop” have anything to do with up tilt/jab and Jerry shot?
Jab doesnt have a loop i think but Paddle have a loop with Jerry shot
primal tangle
Jab doesnt have a loop i think but Paddle have a loop with Jerry shot
you can jump out of it if u mash jump
trim zealot
Oh, so it’s literally just an un-optimal combo using up tilt and Jerry shot?
stoic schooner
you can jump out of it if u mash jump
I forgot its not entirely true
trim zealot
Because you can combo up tilt into jab into Jerry shot and loop once or twice from there.
stoic schooner
Shot and paddle
You can just smash jump button
woeful epoch
I’ll try that
stoic schooner
I’ll try that
Just take it with a grain of salt
trim zealot
I’m assuming this is similar to back when T&J had down air>jerry shot loops, and people complained equally even though it wasn’t an infinite like harley, bugs, iron giant, or LeBron.
Also being the most difficult to perform.
stoic schooner
Also being the most difficult to perform.
Ive tired people complaining about normal things in characters kits
woeful epoch
Hopefully jump works because 60 damage plus off one paddle is not exactly normal
stoic schooner
Hopefully jump works because 60 damage plus off one paddle is not exactly normal
As I'll say again take it with a grain of salt
trim zealot
Hopefully jump works because 60 damage plus off one paddle is not exactly normal
I’ve labbed out a 90% combo.
woeful epoch
That should be gone too
stoic schooner
I’ve labbed out a 90% combo.
GIVEEEE
trim zealot
GIVEEEE
Bet. I’ll @ you with it.
It’ll be in text because I don’t wanna bother with recording though.
stoic schooner
It’ll be in text because I don’t wanna bother with recording though.
Fair it can be annoying
trim zealot
Perks are flammable, collateral, and pugilist. Unique perk doesn’t matter.
stoic schooner
Perks are flammable, collateral, and pugilist. Unique perk doesn’t matter.
Is Speed Force good on T&J?
Im just stuck between Collateral and Speed force
primal tangle
is it just me who enjoys 100 perk?
trim zealot
Is Speed Force good on T&J?
No, you’re too slow to get conversions from the perk anyway.
Collateral helps down air and Jerry shot damage.
stoic schooner
No, you’re too slow to get conversions from the perk anyway.
Thats gonna throw me off bc ive been using Speed force
trim zealot
Labbing the 90% right now, it has to be pretty well practiced to be used in a real match but should be true.
trim zealot
Thats gonna throw me off bc ive been using Speed force
Most players don’t get much mileage from the perk because of projectile play. You can start combos from dynamite, trap, tennis ball and Jerry, and Jerry shots.
So the value you get from speed force is minimal.
@stoic schooner closest I’ve gotten to it by now is 88%.
Scratch that, 89%.
stoic schooner
<@1203405743881977946> closest I’ve gotten to it by now is 88%.
Whats T&J kill percent is it for the opp
trim zealot
Whats T&J kill percent is it for the opp
What do you mean?
stoic schooner
What do you mean?
Like what percent kills the Opp
trim zealot
There are some confirms that start at about 120% ish.
Down air off stage and Jerry snipes kill early sometimes though.
89% combo is: Jab 3> Jerry shot> up tilt> jump Jerry shot> grounded dodge forward jab 3> Jerry shot> up tilt> reverse direction jump jerry shot> tennis ball> up air.
Doesn’t kill but 89% damage true combo for one segment of meter is nice.
trim zealot
89% combo is: Jab 3> Jerry shot> up tilt> jump Jerry shot> grounded dodge forwa...
Please note: all mentions of “Jerry shot” are down angled.
stoic schooner
Please note: all mentions of “Jerry shot” are down angled.
I have watched some segment of Gsmvoids T&J combo vid
trim zealot
I have watched some segment of Gsmvoids T&J combo vid
Decided to record it. The last attempt is the full damage combo. Can't post here, is there a channel with video perms?
stoic schooner
Decided to record it. The last attempt is the full damage combo. Can't post here...
No gonna have to DM me it
trim zealot
No gonna have to DM me it
Would you mind sharing the labbing results if you discover any higher damage options?
stoic schooner
Would you mind sharing the labbing results if you discover any higher damage opt...
If i can yea
trim zealot
thanks.
trim zealot
If i can yea
I’ve been labbing it more too. It has to be modified for Arya, you’ll lose a lot of the damage.
You can loop it a little more on gizmo for more damage. Possibly move it into a kill confirm.
trim zealot
You can loop it a little more on gizmo for more damage. Possibly move it into a ...
The damage increase on gizmo is very slight, but due to his low weight, he dies to a down air> up air after the combo.
open crypt
tom's frying pan is the biggest mistery for me
sometimes it works
sometime it doesn't
it can have like 5 spaces from the enemy and it hits
and when im next to one it doesnt'
trim zealot
The damage increase on gizmo is very slight, but due to his low weight, he dies ...
Combo has to be modified for Jason but puts him in a bad spot, could possibly be able to loop more if you’re quick about it. You have to start with up tilt into jab 3 but after that it’s the same.
You can extend the combo on Jason for more damage.
primal tangle
tom's frying pan is the biggest mistery for me
it has a strange hitbox. you'll get used to it after playing for a while
trim zealot
You can extend the combo on Jason for more damage.
On Batman you can turn it into a 0-death. Jason is also a 0- death.
neon kelp
is it just me who enjoys 100 perk?
i also enjoy the 100 perk but for TnJ its just not worth it
primal tangle
i also enjoy the 100 perk but for TnJ its just not worth it
haha. I play catch & run. I live over 100 most of my games. I play 2's
cyan whale
It depends on the character your up against
If you’re against a Morty or Jason or someone else with absurd kill power, don’t bother because you’re gonna die at 80 max anyway
neon kelp
haha. I play catch & run. I live over 100 most of my games. I play 2's
i play mostly TnJ on 1v1's but it makes sense why it is better in 2v2
neon kelp
If you’re against a Morty or Jason or someone else with absurd kill power, don’t...
I don't have any problem with against Morty. Most of the Morties i played against were kinda trash. But Jason is indeed dangerous.
worldly stone
Can someone help with my Tom and Jerry perks?
Im using 3 Dynamite split, Flamable Doc, Break armor and the Eletric static
They are good perks for it?
cyan whale
Im using 3 Dynamite split, Flamable Doc, Break armor and the Eletric static
Personally, I use dynamite signature, flammable, collateral damage, and pugilist
Collateral damage just adds one extra damage for every Jerry shot you land which absolutely adds up over time
Especially with using Jerry shot in combos
And pugilist makes you deal 10% more damage on non-projectile moves which makes moves like uair kill earlier
primal tangle
What rank are you guys in 1's and 2's?
somber gate
mojo jojo flyfishing interaction makes me cry
drowsy nexus
I swear Tom and jerry feels so bad now I can barley hot anything and he feels slow
somber gate
run speed feels ok, and dropping dynamite behind you can really screw people for chasing you
primal tangle
mojo jojo flyfishing interaction makes me cry
wait till you play dexter lab where u cant use the rod on the main platform anywhere unless u jump outside of it and risk getting ko'd
somber gate
u talking about the moving one? cuz idk its pretty good for covering platforms
primal tangle
u talking about the moving one? cuz idk its pretty good for covering platforms
nope.
go to training mode and check dexter's laboratory 2
primal tangle
I just realized there are 2x TnJ in top 5 in 2's. we are so getting nerfed chat
stoic schooner
I just realized there are 2x TnJ in top 5 in 2's. we are so getting nerfed chat
We are finished
Just like Velma at Launch
primal tangle
Just like Velma at Launch
I doubt we'll get release-like nerf. but we'll surely get some nerfs
subtle lotus
Im using 3 Dynamite split, Flamable Doc, Break armor and the Eletric static
I use that with collateral dmg with dynamite split, but tbh i like the classic 5%, speed, and pugilist
5%, speed and pugilist its so good
You should use more dynamites
Bc dynamite split only gives you more dmg
But with more dynamites you got better stage control
And can set up a lot of things
stoic schooner
5%, speed and pugilist its so good
What about the first Perk? (Not the Sig)
cyan whale
Flammable is the only perk 1 that makes sense imo
Every Jerry shot you can combo deals an additional like 3 or 4 damage or something
subtle lotus
Yeah flammable
agile blade
THe higher you climb the harder he matchups get
How do yall feel about gizmo vs tnj
i cant tell if im just not adapting hard enough
subtle lotus
His ok for me i can still win to him
Just dont let him get near of you if you dont di the zero 0 death
You will die
cyan whale
Gizmo has a zero to death?
cyan whale
How does it work?
subtle lotus
Yo dont worry
cyan whale
I’m only curious because I’ve never seen it
subtle lotus
Its just arrow gameplay you khow
Arrow into up special
I got 2 zero 0 deaths but are pretty hard to do in game
Its hard to follow the di so dont worry
Just di out
Or mix your di
But the mu should be fine
No one does that stuff with gizmo bc its not consistent
cyan whale
What is it like arrow -> up special -> uair on DI in specifically?