#Tom And Jerry

1 messages · Page 4 of 1

primal tangle
#

yeah slingshot feels so useless vs some characters. they just punch it mid air

stoic schooner
#

I might use last stand bc how light T&J is

sour tide
#

I think just making him invincible in the air again would be a really good buff but I understand why PFG would be hesitant to let that happen again Tom is a very hard character to balance

#

Def up-air and his jab 1 —> down tilt confirm

stoic schooner
primal tangle
sour tide
sour tide
primal tangle
#

and your punches hit box is smaller than everyone else's. you're easily outclassed fighting melee

stoic schooner
sour tide
sour tide
primal tangle
#

it's a really good character in 2's if you have a beef in your team who keeps taking hits

#

but in 1's you're punished 80% of the time

stoic schooner
#

He plays Finn btw

sour tide
primal tangle
#

they are lol

#

people who know what t&j do will dodge all projectiles

sour tide
primal tangle
#

and they dont have to do much in melee combat to come on top

stoic schooner
sour tide
#

What I like to do is drop a dynamite but not reflect it so it’ll act as a combo breaker if my opponent does get on top of me

primal tangle
stoic schooner
sour tide
stoic schooner
sour tide
#

Steven is tough cuz he can do anything he wants but there have been many cases where u-tilt beats nair while it’s charging and frying pan beats shield surf on reaction

primal tangle
#

man. I really want post game stats back

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

is 100 a team perk btw?

sour tide
#

Against WW paddle is your best friend don’t throw Jerry out like ever she’ll destroy him from this earth just use him in combos other than that it’s a really rough matchup but perfectly doable

sour tide
stoic schooner
sour tide
stoic schooner
sour tide
primal tangle
stoic schooner
sour tide
stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

not just the prepicked ones

#

I am not sure if you played beta. but the perks system back then was different

#

you buy any any perk you want and equip it on any character you want

sour tide
#

No yeah I didn’t play too much beta so I’m outta my element there

icy jacinth
#

Hi

subtle lotus
#

Il make an new tom and jerry combo in training, and for my tom and jerry guys

#

If you want to improve combo see GsmVoid video

#

His the best Tom n jerry

sour tide
#

Void don’t play t&J that much in 1s anymore, I’m pretty sure he mains Arya in 1s now 😔

subtle lotus
#

Well but see his guide anyway

#

And practice your aim shooting jerry

#

Its so important

sour tide
#

Trust I know his guide got me into T&J 😔🙏

subtle lotus
#

Nice

#

So then learn how to administrate your jerry and protect him

#

You got a lot of ways

#

Corks

#

Tennis balls

#

Rocket

#

Rod

#

Also tom and jerry game plan its to shoot jerry to your enemy

#

Bc of his khockback

sour tide
#

I dunno that puts Jerry in a lot of bad positions

#

Don’t get me wrong I shoot the guy obsessively

subtle lotus
#

I khow thats why you have to use your resorces to save him

sour tide
#

But you gotta think about it

subtle lotus
#

But the problem its that

#

T n J combos are shooting jerry

sour tide
#

I prefer to hold onto him for loops or shoot him out to start loops

subtle lotus
#

And you got a lot of ways to save jerry

sour tide
#

Combos can also start with dair or utilt tho

subtle lotus
#

Ik

#

Idk why

#

But khow

#

You dont hsve that much space in an 1v1 to spam tennis balls

#

But its ok

sour tide
#

But T&J has a lot of varying playstyles, no best way to play the character imo

subtle lotus
#

I prefer to combo always

sour tide
#

No yeah cuz it takes setup, can’t really afford that time in ones

subtle lotus
#

Read Di and dodges to extend the combo

sour tide
#

Dynamite is a good way to protect Jerry tho if you miss or yourself if you get combo’d

subtle lotus
#

Theres like 4 ways to protect jerry

#

Rod, rocket, corks, tennis balls, dash attack and dynamites

#

Also 6 lol

sour tide
#

Corks is my favorite since Jerry shoots them out himself and it usually buys enough time to get him myself

subtle lotus
sour tide
#

That’s usually plenty tho and it resets on picking him up

subtle lotus
#

The best way to protect jerry its with the corks and rocket

subtle lotus
sour tide
#

Rocket is really good I agree

subtle lotus
#

Also tennis balls

#

If the opponent its near to jerry

sour tide
#

Tennis balls are really only good if they’re on him

subtle lotus
#

It throws him up to the sky

sour tide
#

Man we just be saying the same thing fr

subtle lotus
#

Yes

#

Tom n jerry mains khow a lot

sour tide
#

We stay thinking that’s what it’s about

subtle lotus
#

We are the highest iq players in multiversus

#

Jajajaj

sour tide
#

You couldn’t be more right my goat yuta okkotsu 😔🙏

subtle lotus
#

Ye

#

I think il try to make an zero 0 death in my free time

#

More consistent one

#

Thsn the GSM void combo

#

Bc the pan wiffs

#

😕

sour tide
#

I don’t think Tom has any true 0TD’s, but he does really really good damage and has pretty good edge guards and decent kill confirms

#

Dair to uair my beloved 😔🙏

subtle lotus
#

Ye bro

#

The best kill confirm its throwing jerry to the opponent in the edge

sour tide
#

JERRY SNIPE

#

My favorite bro

subtle lotus
#

Yes

#

Lit the best

#

I just want an buff in T&J combos

#

For the next patch

#

We got no combos

sour tide
#

We got loops that’s all we need 😔🙏

subtle lotus
#

I want smth near to the beta T&J the goat combos

subtle lotus
#

I made an loop

#

But you can Di

#

So its difficult to do

sour tide
#

We do ? Paddle to Jerry is true up until like 80

#

And you can repeat it

subtle lotus
#

Ik

sour tide
#

If they hold out it puts them in a bad spot

subtle lotus
#

But you can di paddle

#

The paddle loop its good

#

But i want an zero 0 death😭

#

Idc if multiversus made thr zero 0 death hard

#

I want it

sour tide
#

My brother in Tom we gotta avoid getting this character nerfed 😔🙏

subtle lotus
#

Ye bro

#

If tom and jerry gets nerfed

#

Idk what would happen

#

Idk why but am i the only one who got an invisible hammer doing auto combo XD?

sour tide
#

No yeah it’s a visual glitch I dunno why it happens

#

I’m sure they’ll fix it

subtle lotus
#

Nice

latent thicket
#

They nerfed 2 kill confirms by nerfing jab 2 and 3

#

Now our only jab kill confirm is jab 1 > dtilt

subtle lotus
#

Yep🥲

#

Well but they nerf it to kill our loops

latent thicket
#

At least we have paddle > rocket

#

One of the earliest kill confirms in the game

#

Kills ig at 150

subtle lotus
#

The best confirm its an jerry snipe😎

#

If you use it correctly that kills around of 40%

#

Like the best projectile ig its jerry bc his an active hitbox in all of his frame, and got a lot of khockback and hitstun

#

Jerry its cold🥶

sour tide
#

Although I usually get Jerry rocket off of a dodge read and it still kills mad early

subtle lotus
#

The best kill confirm

#

Kills at 80

#

Jab

#

Throw jerry down for spike

#

Tenis ball

#

Then jumo into an up air

sour tide
#

✍️✍️✍️

#

Does it work on DI ?

#

I’ll have to test it when I get home

latent thicket
subtle lotus
#

Idk tbh

#

I didnt test it

latent thicket
#

If it doesn't kill you can dash uair after the rocket

subtle lotus
#

And dodge it

sour tide
subtle lotus
#

That rocket doesnt work

latent thicket
#

I asked my friend to mash airdodge and he couldnt

subtle lotus
#

You khow hoe many times i tried that

#

Theres better kill confirms

latent thicket
#

Not sure what to say other than skill issue

subtle lotus
latent thicket
#

Works fine for me

sour tide
#

It’s a DI read but at that point I’d just go for upair if they DI in or fair if they DI out

subtle lotus
#

THERES SMTH CALLES DI

subtle lotus
#

You can just di

#

Then dodge it

sour tide
#

To be fair it technically is true it’s just hard to hit because it’s easily DIable

latent thicket
#

But you can't dodge paddle jerry shot?

subtle lotus
latent thicket
#

It's the same hitbox

sour tide
#

So it’s safer and easier to go for something else in my humble opinion

subtle lotus
latent thicket
#

I do

#

You can't di paddle jerryshot

subtle lotus
#

I read the di

#

Then i go to an jerry shot

#

Or if the opponent its doing di to the left you can jump into up special

sour tide
latent thicket
subtle lotus
latent thicket
subtle lotus
#

Theres better ways to kill tbh

sour tide
subtle lotus
#

Thats not consistent

#

But sometimes its good

#

Specially with big size characters

sour tide
#

I still like to use it on a dodge read personally, even if it doesn’t kill usually it burns their resources enough to keep them in the air for a while

subtle lotus
#

Yo kokko

#

I found an crazy kill confirm

subtle lotus
#

Bro this kills at 80

latent thicket
subtle lotus
#

Paddle dair its not that consistant tho

sour tide
latent thicket
#

On di in its true

subtle lotus
#

Well

latent thicket
subtle lotus
#

You can paddle jump cancel into ups special sometimes

subtle lotus
sour tide
latent thicket
#

If you get paddle early, your opponent should end the combo at like 70+

sour tide
#

And more consistent

latent thicket
subtle lotus
#

Bro @sour tide do you khow the gsmvoid dair combo

sour tide
subtle lotus
#

Dair then jerry shot woth ground bounce

sour tide
subtle lotus
#

Dash cancel into another dair into jerry shot

#

I mean

sour tide
subtle lotus
#

You can wiff the second hit

latent thicket
#

It's rlly good

subtle lotus
#

Yeah

sour tide
#

No yeah dair to Jerry shot is ridiculously good

subtle lotus
#

Thats what im going to way

#

Say

latent thicket
#

Especially against like shaggy/bg when they whiff side b

subtle lotus
#

You can follow up to an paddle loop

#

Instead of doing another dair

#

Bc the second one wiffs

#

And its not consistent

latent thicket
#

I was coaching this one t&j and almost jv4'd using dair jerryshot

#

💀

sour tide
#

I love dair jerry shot especially on longer maps like sky arena

#

Go from one side to the other

subtle lotus
#

Then you can follow up with almost everything

#

You can dash cancel into jabs

#

You can follow with an paddle loop

#

Almost everything

#

I mean tom n jerry its pretty solid

#

You could win every character ig ngl

sour tide
#

No yeah Tom is mad balanced in my opinion, especially cuz he’s hard as hell to play

latent thicket
#

Joker I think is t&js worst mu but I still think it's only -1

subtle lotus
#

I think worst matchup its wonder woman

latent thicket
#

That I put at 2nd worst lol

#

Both mus suck ass

sour tide
#

Yeah I was gonna say WW although I know the matchup well so it’s not the worse for me

#

Although hopefully with their nerfs it’ll become more doable

subtle lotus
#

I want an buff in T&J combo potential

#

Bro i think T&J got an good matchup agaisnt almost all the roster except joker and wonder woman

#

And his worst map

#

Dexter lab

#

The rick and morty

#

In other words the maps with platform

#

Bc it makes jerry go in the platform

sour tide
#

I don’t think cromulons is super bad

#

If you have them in a paddle loop then Jerry goes to the floor

#

And you can keep the loop going if you bounce them off the speakers

#

Dexters sucks tho that map is straight cheeks

#

Although cromulons is harder when the speakers break since the map is small and it’s easy to accidentally shoot Jerry off

latent thicket
#

Personally, tree fort night I think is bad

#

Cuz of the low platforms

subtle lotus
#

Yea thats horrible

sour tide
#

Tree fort night is buns 😔

subtle lotus
#

And an broken map for tom and jerry

#

Got to be the game of thrones one

#

You can cheese at the edge of the map

sour tide
#

Nah bro I hate that map with a passion

subtle lotus
#

With an loop

sour tide
#

I think it’s just a me thing tho not a T&J thing

subtle lotus
#

And same with bugs bunny😂

latent thicket
#

I can never play throne room in a tournament setting when it's legal

subtle lotus
#

Bro

latent thicket
#

Cuz t&j main and bugs pocket

subtle lotus
#

You can lit inf with the ground bounce

#

And iron giant

#

Can loop you

#

Jab down tilt

#

That stage its just so toxic

latent thicket
#

I hate the ig mu for 1 specific reason

#

He walks over mousetrap

sour tide
#

The IG mu is buns I hate that character

#

Especially if they have the projectile shield

subtle lotus
#

Mu?

#

Wait wait

latent thicket
#

Matchup

subtle lotus
#

I forgot his maining

sour tide
#

Match up

subtle lotus
#

Oh oh ok

#

So the worst mu its wonder woman

latent thicket
#

Ig being able to walk over mousetrap makes me so angry

subtle lotus
#

With his shielf

#

Bro

#

Ww needs to be removed of the gsme

#

Totally deserved

sour tide
#

They’re nerfing her (hopefully Tuesday) so we’ll see then

#

IG existing makes me angry

latent thicket
#

Praying I get the t&j shark skin today or tmr

#

I won't be able to log in for 2 days after that

subtle lotus
#

So my mains are tom and jerry my principal then i was maining harley but now im maining batman

#

I was an bugs main im sry

#

That characther its nuts

latent thicket
#

Instant w

subtle lotus
#

I didnt take harley as my main 1

#

Bc its always t n j

#

My first character was tom and jerry

#

I change my second mains

sour tide
#

I started with Harley moved to bugs moved to joker moved to Rick moved to black Adam moved to shaggy moved to T&J

#

I play many a character

subtle lotus
#

I started with tom and jerry and i never moved of that character

latent thicket
#

Rn I'm t&j main with Joker secondary and bugs pocket

sour tide
#

If I’m getting washed with T&J I swap to joker to get my win streak back

subtle lotus
#

Im T&J main, secondarys: bugs, harley, batman

#

Harley isnt that broken for me its just bad

#

Tbh the only broken thing that she has its his nair

#

And i mastered him

sour tide
#

Harley isn’t as bad ever since the nerfs, that hammer swing tho has got to go

subtle lotus
#

I learned his loops

#

And no longer works

#

And now its like the scythe gameplay on brawhalla

#

Read for the kicks in the air

#

Then loop the reads

#

And you can avoid it just jumping

#

🥶

#

And batman its so fun and saucy tbh

#

But no better than tom and jerry

sour tide
#

I hate Batman so much

subtle lotus
#

Bro batman its so skillfull with his combos

#

Are insane hard

#

Atleast its not an bugs nair spammer

sour tide
#

I do not care respectfully bat kick has got to go and his slide needs end lag and why do all of his moves apply weakened ??

subtle lotus
#

No bro

sour tide
#

Absolutely devious work of a character

subtle lotus
#

Batman its good where he is

#

The only thing that maybe needs an nerf

#

Its his cooldown

#

With the batarang

#

And explosion

sour tide
#

BATKICK that move is not contestable

subtle lotus
#

Thats all

#

No bro

#

That move its likd ok

sour tide
#

And has negative end lag and he can combo off of it and act out of it with IAD

subtle lotus
#

Its not that easy to hit

#

Ye ik

sour tide
#

That move has more range than T&J paddle

subtle lotus
#

But most of the batman combos are insane hard to do

#

You just got to prove it

sour tide
#

I know that but batkick can start it all bro that move shouldn’t be THAT good

subtle lotus
#

Atleast its not braidead like superman

sour tide
#

It’s my only real complaint with bats

subtle lotus
#

Bro batman has only dash attack and dive kick

#

As an good moves

#

Then you can di

#

Il play mvs

sour tide
#

Nah bro you’re tripping that character does not have a bad move 😔🙏

#

Dive kick should not be a do it all button

#

Just adjust the hit box and hurt box a bit and that’s all the changes that need to happen

subtle lotus
#

Bro i judt bullied an joker with tom and jerry

#

3-0

#

3 stock

subtle lotus
#

Idk why your complaining on an hard to hit move

#

Its like complaining about jerry snipe

sour tide
subtle lotus
#

It is

sour tide
#

I’m just saying it’s TOO good of a move right now

subtle lotus
#

Ye its an crazy move

#

But atleast its hard to hit

#

Its like an jerry snipe

#

If to good

sour tide
#

And Jerry snipe actively turns Tom into a worse character for a moment

subtle lotus
#

But hard to hit

#

Ye

#

But its good

sour tide
#

But the thing is he doesn’t have to hit the move for it to bring value

#

Since he can do anything out of it

subtle lotus
#

For killing your opponent

sour tide
#

And you can’t contest it

subtle lotus
#

Ye its true

#

Tom solo its like one of the worst characters

#

But you got some good moves

#

I would like an buff for tom

#

For combos

sour tide
#

It don’t stop me from holding forward I ain’t playing scared without Jerry 😔🙏

subtle lotus
#

Jerry health

#

And cooldown

sour tide
#

I think one of those would be nice but I don’t think it should be both

subtle lotus
#

More corks

#

Like 4

sour tide
#

Invincibility while in the air for Jerry would be nice

subtle lotus
#

Nah il like more health

#

More corks

#

Il play an match right nos

sour tide
#

As for corks I really think three is fine, I always get him back if he ever reaches 0

#

More health would be pleasant

subtle lotus
#

I won again

#

Against an harley quinn

#

I understand what you where saying about harley

#

2-1 i won

#

3-1

#

His nair and up air hitbox are morbid

sour tide
#

Harley is a pretty even matchup imo, Jerry rocket on ground is really good against her since she likes to hold forward

subtle lotus
#

Yo pretty crazy

#

I lit make him unistall the game

#

I msde the best jerry trickshot

#

Jajajaja

#

T&J has lit no bad matchup

#

Just keep distance with rush down characters

stoic schooner
sour tide
#

I’ve never heard something so right

subtle lotus
#

Its not that bad

#

Its kinda mid

#

I khow he got a lot of deflects

#

Just play at the distance

#

Bc they only spam nair

stoic schooner
subtle lotus
#

Well wonder woman its other case☠️

subtle lotus
#

Its not that harx

#

Hard if your jerry dont die

#

If dies

#

...

#

☠️

stoic schooner
subtle lotus
#

You can

#

But youl get an bad time

#

I hope you never face an pro player wonder women fr

#

And i got no problems with almost no one in the roster

#

I 3 stock an harley quinn and an joker

#

Woth T&J

#

Bc my jerry didnt die

stoic schooner
subtle lotus
#

The point its keep alive jerry

subtle lotus
#

First its sniping him with jerry

#

Keep distance

#

And when his try to rush down

#

Snipe him with jerry

#

If he try to kill jerry

#

Use an cork

#

Then a rocket

#

Dash attack

#

The rod

#

You can save jerry with a lot of ways

latent thicket
#

And what about his oppressive buttons he can mash in your face

sour tide
#

TELL EM COU STEVEN IS BUNS 🗣️🗣️‼️‼️

latent thicket
#

The game isn't all advantage state, just like every platform fighter there's neutral advantage and disadvantage

latent thicket
sour tide
#

I personally think it’s WW, Steven, Joker but I’m just bad at fighting Steven and really good at fighting joker

latent thicket
#

Dealing with watermelon Steven while regular is harassing you is just not fun

latent thicket
sour tide
#

I think it’s just matchup inexperience

#

Not as many Steven’s out there

#

Plus I play joker so I know what the opponent wants to do

latent thicket
#

Joker's only "losing" mu is ww

#

Character goes even or wins against the whole cast

primal tangle
#

what's your favorite partner character with t&j in 2's?

sour tide
#

Anyone who holds forward

primal tangle
#

lmfao. yeah that's in general

sour tide
#

IG + T&J is deviously good

#

T&J’s projectiles kinda just let IG do his thing which is pressing really big buttons and killing real early

#

And most importantly not dying

latent thicket
#

I don't play 2s tho

#

But t&j just work well with whoever can tank hits

#

So ww, superman, ig, Jason etc.

#

I've also seen hyper agro characters work too like finn, taz and BA

primal tangle
#

unironically taz players are the best side characters for tom

#

they just rush all in

sour tide
#

T&J in general partners well with anyone who wants to just be in there

#

He’s better in 2s in my opinion

primal tangle
latent thicket
#

Bad partners for t&j are morty, t&j, rick, basically any zoner

primal tangle
#

I have like 10% w/r paired with another tom

sour tide
#

Nah fr it’s just not a good team comp

primal tangle
#

it's the worst pair

sour tide
#

it might work on the bigger characters like jason or supes tho

primal tangle
#

are there any rumored skins for tom & jerry next patches?

subtle lotus
#

Yes

#

Theres like an cyberpunk skin

subtle lotus
#

Its

#

One jab

#

Ground bounce jerry

#

Quick

#

Then tennis racket

#

Into up air

#

And its true

#

Il prove it with all di's

primal tangle
sour tide
#

On DI out you have to IAD the uair but other than that all good, nice find Yuta

subtle lotus
#

Better than the paddle to rocket confirm

#

Lit kills at 80%

sour tide
#

So after some testing it is a DI check, you have to angle jerry down if they hold in but shoot him straight if they di out

#

i think you can react to their DI tho

subtle lotus
#

God

#

Im like issac newton after discovering the gravity

#

Jajaja

sour tide
#

I'm gonna try and get it in some real matches

#

I'll let you know

subtle lotus
#

Nice

#

Il find an new combo btw

#

Its just like experiment with everything

sour tide
#

I'll put it into action 😔 🙏

subtle lotus
#

I think i could make an zero 0 death

#

I just got to study the character

#

The tech part

subtle lotus
sour tide
#

It's very particular on percentage, so I'll have to figure it out for each character

#

if it's too high or too low jerry won't hit them with ball

#

I hit it

#

it didn't kill tho but it set them up for a nasty juggle

#

it works at about 85 to kill, I did it a bit too early

stoic schooner
#

Are yall thinking their gonna reveal a character tomorrow?

sour tide
stoic schooner
#

But PFG are unpredictable

#

So im predicting things

drowsy nexus
#

This game NEEDS to have all characters unlocked in local or offline play is all I'm saying.

#

We will have to see ig.

hidden verge
#

Blehhh

stoic schooner
hidden verge
#

Sick af

#

Haven’t been on in ions

#

Imma be sooo rusty when i play my main cat and mouse

stoic schooner
#

Are yall excited for the patch preview?

primal tangle
#

is the tom&jerry banner coming back?

subtle lotus
#

Great news tom & jerry mains

#

I found an new kill confirm

#

After doing paddle loop

#

You just one jab

#

Ground bounce jerry

#

Tennis ball

#

Into up air

stoic schooner
subtle lotus
#

No, just read what i said

drowsy nexus
#

Oh boy my favorite seat-

#

So what are us Tom and jerry fans hoping for in the mid-season patch?

sour tide
subtle lotus
#

80

#

Or more

#

You can do it after you can loop anymore

#

Like 90 or 100%

#

Then finishing the combo

#

With that

#

Aldo opponent got to be really near to jerry so you can make the opponent fly up to you with tennis ball to you jump and up air

sour tide
#

It works on DI in but not on DI out

#

if you think they're going to di out (most do if you start the combo center stage) then it's better to do jab 1 into jerry shot tennis ball instead of the u-tilt

agile blade
#

Whata a good way to know if these upsmash combos work

#

it feels so finnicky

subtle lotus
#

@sour tide . I hope we get buff on tom and jerry

latent thicket
#

we already got nerfed

#

hit decay has been added, most likely removing paddle loops

drowsy nexus
primal tangle
latent thicket
#

in short, its just paddle > paddle cancel jerryshot > paddle

#

works at 0 all the way up to around 70-80 %

#

after that its not true but will catch most players

sour tide
jovial pond
#

is attack decay implemented like it was in the beta?

latent thicket
#

no clue

sour tide
jovial pond
#

fair

latent thicket
#

they just said it will affect long lasting combos

jovial pond
#

I wasnt there for the showcase so

primal tangle
#

at least we got post game stats back from the beta

subtle lotus
#

But its 2s gocus

#

Focus

#

So maybe we can still do it

subtle lotus
#

I just got to see what we could do

sour tide
#

I'm pretty sure they said if your character is gonna be affected it'll say in the notes when they drop

subtle lotus
#

I alr create an new kill confirm i can do an new combo for my community🔥

#

We are going to get buff

sour tide
#

I genuinely don't know what they would change tbh

#

Most T&J players aren't crying for buffs and everyone else isn't crying for nerfs

subtle lotus
#

If they nerf jerry snipe we are cooked fr☠️

subtle lotus
earnest basalt
#

I think T&J are probably not gonna get anything, they feel good enough

subtle lotus
#

If they change smth would be an buff to our frame data

sour tide
#

i feel like the only changes would be to make his multihits more consistent

#

i don't think he needs anything else

earnest basalt
#

Maybe if anything, all I see is them changing something about Jerry’s cork

#

But that’s all I got for guessing

sour tide
#

what do you think they'd change about it ?

earnest basalt
#

Probably how long it takes for it to pop, but it’s a spitball idea

hidden verge
#

TNJ got no love this patch

#

And tell me why NAKAT sounded like an npc😭

sour tide
#

We don't know if he got buffs or nerfs, but they do be saying like every character got some sort of change

subtle lotus
#

I want an buff

#

And they ruined bugs bunny

#

He lit just need an hitstun nerf

#

Not that

sour tide
#

lmao they really said no more nair loops for you

subtle lotus
#

They did that bc of the kids that dont khow how to di

subtle lotus
#

Better nerf more wonder woman

#

I just lost to an wonder woman

#

Hes so op

sour tide
#

i think the bugs nerf is fine, he's still gonna be good imo

#

you just can't go from 0-100 solely with nair

#

It's not even a di check that much since if you DI down he can just dair you and continue the loop

subtle lotus
#

Il prefer to nerf the nair hitstun and up air hitbox and khockback

subtle lotus
#

You can di

#

His loop

sour tide
#

the nair nerf is essentially a nerf to bat KO power since he can't get you from 0-90 anymore

subtle lotus
#

And even if you di down you can just dodge

#

Or if you di up

#

You could dodge anyway

#

Since the beggining you can di the nair loop

sour tide
#

but that's not always guaranteed to get you out since it's long lasting and multihit so if you dodge through you might just get hit anyways

subtle lotus
#

and it have an endint

#

Ending

#

When you connect 3 nairs you can dodge

#

And you can di out of it

sour tide
#

you shouldn't be able to connect three nairs in the first place imo

#

loops are overall unhealthy for the game

subtle lotus
#

But you khow idc that much bc i dont main it

sour tide
#

except Tom's, he can stay

subtle lotus
#

Tom one its worst than bugs

sour tide
#

not to mention harder

subtle lotus
#

Its not harder

#

Its very easy to do

sour tide
#

i mean yeah but pressing nair a bunch is easier

subtle lotus
#

Well but atleast you dont have to mash one buttom

sour tide
#

also it's easier to DI out of paddle loops imo

subtle lotus
#

Nah its super easy to di the nair

#

Bugs would be still top tier

#

He just like harley

#

Read the dodges

sour tide
#

i just don't think he should have a really busted nair and a really busted kit at the same time

subtle lotus
#

With the meta being nerf tom and jerry will become an fair and square s tier

sour tide
#

safe is good, rocket is good, hole is good, uair is amazing, dair leads to different loop routes fair also combos it's rough out here

#

i dunno if T&J will rise with the top tiers being nerfed but I think he'll definitely be good

#

just his really bad matchups aren't as oppressive

subtle lotus
#

We need combos like batman

#

Super mega hard to do

#

But lit obliverates your stock☠️

sour tide
#

tom is a hard character as is we don't gotta make him harder

subtle lotus
#

For me its not that hard maybe bc i got a lot of time playing him

#

I just want an jerry health buff

#

And more corks

#

Also fix the pan gsmvoid combo to not wiff on second hit

valid star
sour tide
#

i dunno what yall are cooking with corks i almost never run out before i get jerry back

valid star
#

would be nice if you could launch the corks farther if you charged it too

valid star
#

esp when u play against other mages

sour tide
#

maybe, i don't really ever use corks or tennis balls like that except in doubles maybe

#

i usually just use corks to keep jerry safe until i get him back

valid star
#

huh..

#

tennis balls are like my go-to

#

not really much else because almost all of tjs melee attacks are cooked after the beta

sour tide
#

i dunno i just find the time i use to set up jerry for tennis balls could be used for doing something else

#

are you a triple dyna user or 5% ?

valid star
#

used to be triple but i find myself using the stat boost more

#

triple ended up being pretty niche for me and even then i could never consistently hit it

#

hed always face the wrong way 😭

sour tide
#

i find single dynamite to serve the same purpose as tennis balls and corks

#

i just never use either

valid star
#

thats the thing with tj you always forget about the cool abilities until its too late

#

and now his melees arent cutting it

sour tide
#

i mean i've been doing fine without them, i just like a more aggressive style of t&j i guess

valid star
#

what do you do? do you go for ladder combos or beatdown

sour tide
#

usually just paddle loops and shooting jerry around

#

it depends on matchup tho

valid star
#

hilarious and true i wont lie

sour tide
#

but my opp often gets left in between me and jerry so it's usually better for me to just swing than go for tennis balls

drowsy nexus
#

I feel like jerry dies to easy honestly

sour tide
drowsy nexus
#

But that's just me

drowsy nexus
sour tide
#

but i get it, there's a lot of times where I'm like that killed jerry ???

drowsy nexus
#

Like buff his health slightly

valid star
#

i dont want buffs i just want the up and downsmash to actually hit and not feel like the hitboxes are terrible or its delayed by 3-4 buisness days

drowsy nexus
#

But not kill him

sour tide
#

down smash i haven't had problems with but paddle i wish connected into itself a bit better

#

they just fall out sometimes and it sucks

drowsy nexus
#

I miss the days where Jerry could die from 3 hits at least.

valid star
#

😭

drowsy nexus
#

Now it feels like everything one shots him

valid star
#

shaggy side special 😨

drowsy nexus
#

I get Jerry is supposed to be a tool but he's my tool.

#

I don't want him dying that easily

sour tide
#

i think jerry health is kind of a hard thing to buff, a lot of the cast either one shots jerry or can't kill him at all it's a fine balance

drowsy nexus
#

I think the main problem might also be pugilist one shotting Jerry

#

I have a feeling that's also part of the thing killing him so easy

#

Since melee damaged is buffed slightly he dies easier

sour tide
#

maybe they could just change it to where damage to jerry isn't affected by perk boosts

drowsy nexus
#

That could work

#

Or as I'd prefer maybe giving Jerry 3 hit points again

#

I feel like when he had 3 hit points it was more fair

#

Like he wouldn't die instantly but he wasn't hard to kill either

sour tide
#

i dunno, i'll be happy as long as they don't nerf the guy

drowsy nexus
#

I dunno I'm just saying if ANYTHING was to be buffed for tnj I think it would be Jerry's health or up air as I said

sour tide
#

i don't care if we get buffed or not I've been doing fine either way

drowsy nexus
#

Same honestly

#

I feel like tnj should be used as references alot more for balancing characters honestly

sour tide
#

imagine they buff something ridiculous like frying pan

drowsy nexus
#

Lol that would be beta day 1 all over again

valid star
drowsy nexus
#

Just give back the broken hitbox

sour tide
#

that hit box is broken bro it goes through stage it's mad lengthy

drowsy nexus
#

Yea lol

#

Imagine it was back to open beta day 1 tho

valid star
#

just buff the rocket and make it like the ww shout

drowsy nexus
#

Wdym!? The rocket is fine!

sour tide
#

jerald rocket my beloved

drowsy nexus
#

Gerald.*

sour tide
#

i said what i said

drowsy nexus
#

Okay real talk tho. Why is Jerry called Jerry if his real name is Gerald?

#

Shouldn't it be Gerry?

valid star
#

no embeds 😭

drowsy nexus
#

You didn't know that?

#

His full name is Gerald Jinx Mouse

#

It's a joke I've always asked

#

I mean unless it's the J off Jinx for Jerry

summer rivet
#

i cant wait until jerry gets a taunt

valid star
#

there was a sleeping jerry taunt that came in the shop a few weeks ago and instantly bought it

#

tj got breadcrumbs

sour tide
valid star
#

worth the 5 dollars i wont lie

sour tide
#

it's one of few emotes where tom will still do it without jerry instead of the shrug

wind wing
#

I just bought the ouch emote recently

summer rivet
#

AYYYYYY THEY GOT BUFFED

#

slightly but still :D

wind wing
#

I know! I'll take that buff!

sour tide
#

I wonder how much it'll change honestly

#

By speed is it just reaching max height faster ?

summer rivet
wind wing
#

Same!

wind wing
sour tide
#

speed 1 is the initial jump while speed 2 is the second jump i believe

wind wing
#

Then possibly you could either jump faster or the height is extended like you say

subtle lotus
#

Guys we win

#

We got an buff and some fix

#

Il test all the new stuff with tom and jerry later

subtle lotus
#

If we got that

#

We could do

#

One jab into ground bounce jerry, tennis ball jump into down air

#

That would be incredible

subtle lotus
#

But sadly we got no more loop

#

We cant repeat that long the combo

sour tide
#

Nah fr tom getting a better recovery is goated and I really don’t think paddle loops got taken away

#

It wasn’t THAT long y’know ?

subtle lotus
sour tide
#

That change seems to be mainly doubles focused anyways, we’ll have to see when it comes out tho

subtle lotus
sour tide
#

We’ll just have to see tomorrow

#

Either way you never really looped more than twice so I don’t think it’ll affect anything major

subtle lotus
#

And do you remember my kill confirm?

sour tide
#

Yeah

subtle lotus
#

It only work like above of 80 or 95 i think so i test it

#

In 105 or above and non work

sour tide
#

It might work at earlier percents if you angle Jerry down

subtle lotus
drowsy nexus
#

Brooo I missed the 2d artwork. I can't wait to have that back over the dumb 3d renders. No offense to the 3d renders but compared to the 2d renders they just look weird to me.

primal tangle
#

nothing beats the feeling of a double knockout with 1 fishrod move with tom and jerry

stoic schooner
#

Hows T&J for yall

primal tangle
latent thicket
#

I'll be camping for a week but if the jump height is as high as I think then poops are gone

#

(Paddle loops = poops)

#

Unless ff rate has been drastically changed

latent thicket
#

Most characters will still be hit by grounded jerry shot so they're unaffected

summer rivet
stoic schooner
#

I meant in Game

summer rivet
stoic schooner
summer rivet
#

anyways having fun with them so far, loving them

stoic schooner
summer rivet
stoic schooner
summer rivet
ocean cliff
#

Still his up attack loops btw

stoic schooner
summer rivet
#

I wish they brung back Jerry getting picked up by the attack hitboxes

#

so like, if you hit jerry with the hammer or whatever
he'd get picked up

primal tangle
#

what skin do you guys use for tj?

summer rivet
#

detective t&j

primal tangle
#

is texas skin gonn happen?

#

I see it on the wiki

summer rivet
primal tangle
#

ngl it's packing a lot of swag in it

summer rivet
#

or maybe the tom's piano skin
idk what jerry could have to

primal tangle
#

they could put them both in suits

primal tangle
#

something like this^

subtle lotus
#

The patch its alr dropped?

subtle lotus
primal tangle
subtle lotus
#

Did the update dropped?

summer rivet
#

apparently in 90 mins

subtle lotus
#

Oh ok

#

Bro did you see the agent smith trailer

#

Omg i need it

#

But i would prefer neo tbh

#

Bugs bunny have 90 mins of live after dying☠️

#

Also W

#

For tom and jerry mains

#

I dont want batman for die

sour tide
#

Batman is not going to die bro they barely touched him

stoic schooner
#

Bunny

summer rivet
#

He's literally digging his own grave

subtle lotus
#

Bugs just needed to add more hitstun with his nair

#

So you can do only 2

#

And you can di the combo also

#

They just nerfed it for the kids who dont khow what its di☠️

sour tide
#

Don't matter now the bunny is DEAD

#

I just wanna see character variation in my matches

#

I don't wanna go against bugs, WW, or morty anymore

stoic schooner
#

Bc hes getting buffed

sour tide
#

I’m lowkey thinking bout Reindog

#

But I gotta see how joker fares out, he’ll prolly be my secondary still I don’t think the nerfs hurt him too bad

zinc tendon
#

Im kinda worried they'll remove paddle loops. I think they're really good but it's like the only real true combo we have lol

sour tide
#

Honestly if they haven’t removed them yet they’re probably here to stay

#

T&J isn’t problematic as a whole

#

And I’m pretty sure his buff is just he reaches max height faster and his double jump is higher which doesn’t affect poops anyways

#

So T&J is unchanged basically

zinc tendon
#

Are patch notes out atm?

#

I'm in work so I can't really check anything

sour tide
zinc tendon
#

Cheers goat

#

Yayy we kept the loop

#

It's so fun to do

#

Even if it usually means my matches end early because people run off the map after losing 1 stock 💀

subtle lotus
#

For me morty was fine

#

Tbh

#

I think il change my batman

#

To continue maining harley

#

Bc i just want an super rush down combo character

#

And we got our combo back

#

Yes sirManicStripe

#

@sour tide also bro when the update drops il try to find new routes with tom and jerry

#

Also our character now got to be atleast a or s

#

Bc they nerfed the super meta characters

sour tide
#

I dunno how many new routes will be unlocked, I think double jump down air is more viable tho

#

You could probably hit it out of tennis ball consistently now

#

We’ll see when the patch drops

subtle lotus
#

Did the update alr dropped?

sour tide
#

I’m also hoping that uair will be easier to combo into with the jump buffs

subtle lotus
#

I think it should

sour tide
#

Maintenance starts in like 20 minutes

subtle lotus
stoic schooner
#

Im so excited for the input buffer settings

sour tide
#

6 frame buffer here I come 😔🙏

stoic schooner
#

Where update

primal tangle
#

do you guys think jerry getting tapped out every second slingshot is done for it this patch? XD

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

referring to the shaggy nerf

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

you never played vs a shaggy that spams drop kick? you can't really slingshot into them

#

jerry dies mid air

stoic schooner
#

Even know it hits Shaggy

primal tangle
#

it should be dodgable, or at least reversable

#

but killing jerry mid slingshot feels a bit too much

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

well, at least we won't be seeing shaggy every lobby now

#

getting knocked out from 1 end of the stage to the other at 75 in 1 kick no more XD

stoic schooner
primal tangle
stoic schooner
#

Not sure abour combos

primal tangle
#

I don't really do many fancy combos in my gameplay

#

but I am afraid trying to dodge up with jump2 will get us closer to the ceiling which could be dangerous vs some characters

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

but yeah specially superman

stoic schooner
#

Bunny

primal tangle
#

I enjoy playing with and against him

#

but I am happy with the rest of the nerfs

stoic schooner
summer rivet
#

why did i just now see that msg

stoic schooner
cunning basin
primal tangle
cunning basin
#

He'll live.

#

For now....

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

it's like they nerfed the whole tank class at once

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

he is the only exception

cunning basin
#

He got nerfed too.

#

Just less so.

primal tangle
#

iron giant received nerfs too

#

who else is a tank?

cunning basin
#

A bit of give & take where everyone else was just take. taz

primal tangle
#

Finn buffs gonna bring his playrates

#

I used to hate playing vs Finn in beta

stoic schooner
primal tangle
# stoic schooner HE GOT WHAT

Ground Neutral Attack

  • Knockback scaling to 15.5 from 14
    Ground Up Attack
  • Knockback scaling to 20.5 from 19.5
    Ground Down Attack
  • Fixed an issue where this attack was not breaking armor on both hits
stoic schooner
cunning basin
stoic schooner
cunning basin
#

You play T&J.

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

I mean tbf you barely see any stevens

#

but the others every second lobby

cunning basin
stoic schooner
cunning basin
#

I was thinking of picking them up but I saw they had F-tilt to U-tilt loops and PFG seems to nerf those any chance they get.

#

Shout outs to T&J being unchanged. 🫡

primal tangle
stoic schooner
#

Unsure why tho

primal tangle
#

I can't perform the third part 90% of the time in this

#

they always escape

stoic schooner
primal tangle
stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

though 5% is too much to pass on

stoic schooner
primal tangle
stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

yeah I started using it too

#

it's pretty decent

stoic schooner
#

Ive still got a lot to learn

primal tangle
#

I really wanna learn the instant tnt bat

stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

jump --> special down --> neutral jab

#

tnt is dynamite

stoic schooner
primal tangle
stoic schooner
primal tangle
#

that's why I want to learn the instant combo

#

I've seen void do it like it's 1 button

#

but that guy is cracked

stoic schooner
#

Like why

primal tangle
stoic schooner
#

Bc they lost to one

primal tangle
#

people who don't play tom and jerry dont really understand them

stoic schooner
#

Like keep your mouth shut

primal tangle
#

lets be fair, even if they nerf tom and jerry to the ground, we are OTPs. we are gonna keep playing them 😂

stoic schooner
zinc tendon
primal tangle
stoic schooner
primal tangle
zinc tendon
#

My Tom and jerry play quite strange, I usually just try and overwealm my opponent with Tom's crazy tools and then keep advantage flowing. I'm not very combo based unless it's loops or small hammer combos

zinc tendon
primal tangle
zinc tendon
#

I mean when I saw the roster, I was drawn to them instantly

stoic schooner
zinc tendon
#

Even though I really like characters like Bugs more, they were a massive part of my childhood. Turns out they just fit my playstyle perfectly

#

And it's quite nice to main a character not many others will

primal tangle
#

I got finn as my first character in beta, kept playing it till I unlocked t&j and since then I am an otp